Correction: The ending section is actually 5 6 2 6 5 3 5 5 3 5 6 5 3 5 5 6 3 5 5 3 5 It’s a subtle difference, but for the sake of accuracy there it is. As I said, I make no guarantees this is 100% accurate!!
@mapkocc
2 жыл бұрын
bruh Matt Garstka just uploaded his own breakdown on this song, and you basically were spot on the entire time. Kinda uncanny even
@YogevGabay
3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff bro! These guys are always fun to analyze. Rock N Roll!
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Yogev!! I'm a massive fan of your channel, and Hago. I'd love to nerd out about rhythm with you some time!
@YogevGabay
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool Oh for sure! Also, a bunch of my subscribers are asking about this song, so I'm sending them your way hahaha I'm in Europe doing some gigs and recordings so I'm taking some time off the channel.
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
@@YogevGabay send them my way! It’s nice the gigs are coming back. Have a blast, let’s connect once you’re back!
@thimovijfschaft3271
3 жыл бұрын
You're still better at explaining. Mostly because you use simpler language and you visualize the rhythm better making it easier to follow
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
@@thimovijfschaft3271 no argument here! Yogev is the master of explaining this stuff!
@zacredington4776
3 жыл бұрын
man that ending part where it goes to 16ths is a beautiful nightmare. so hard to be in the pocket when the rhythm changes pants every few beats.
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
That part is wild! Probably the hardest part to feel out, and I imagine the trickiest part to play as well.
@nathes998
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool don’t wanna be that guy but i honestly got it down in a day
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
@@nathes998 that’s impressive! I imagine with a good hard day of work I could probably manage it as well.
@nathes998
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool random question, know of any good distortion pedals for aal? i want to buy a new one
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
@@nathes998 Tosin has his own distortion pedal, the Pathos. Also his Neural DSP plugin would get you in that direction if you wanted to go that route.
@mrhandyhandssr7839
3 жыл бұрын
Dude. I just found your channel and am so impressed and excited. I have lots of guitar theory under my belt but the rhythmic aspects sometimes are over my head. You nailed it. Subscribed so fast
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! My main focus is on composition and theory. I figure there are enough people teaching guitar out there.
@mrhandyhandssr7839
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool I think you are great! I’ve watched a few more of your vids and they are all extremely well done. Cheers man talk soon !
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
@@mrhandyhandssr7839 thanks!! I have a good time making these videos.
@as_v8
2 жыл бұрын
A different approach I came up with when trying to figure out the main rhythm is in alternating groupings of 2-3 and 3-2 resulting in: 2-3, 3-2, 2-3 repeat. Each number represented by the quantity of gallop separated by 3 16th notes in-between. Good video!
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great way to approach the rhythm, definitely crossed my mind to look at it that way as well!
@Shorjok
2 жыл бұрын
This seems to me like a better way to look at things from the perspective of the composers.
@RohannvanRensburg
2 жыл бұрын
Super impressive picking, especially since Tosin doesn't even triplet with his picking hand
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I realized that after I put this out haha. Good thing I’ve spent a lot of time working up my picking speed!
@ballzheimers1782
2 жыл бұрын
There's no way he does it like that on the recording. He's gotta be thumping
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
@@ballzheimers1782 he is picking twice and hammering on a muted note for the third note. You can see it right at the beginning of the playthrough video he put out kzitem.info/news/bejne/1XiH0ZimgZpyono
@Chilipotamus
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who always played with feel and struggled with theory, I am loving your channel. Its been difficult wrapping my brain around at times, but your explanations of subdivisions and finding time in these difficult songs is helping immensely. Very good video quality as well, you seem comfortable in front of the camera, and the video itself is well put together. Definitely earned my sub today!
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad I can be of some help!
@delusionwalker8852
3 жыл бұрын
Dude, your channel is gold. Very impressive.
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad you are enjoying it!
@jaycielle
2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! This is an incredibly satisfying breakdown for this - subbed!
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! And welcome!
@occams_chainsaw
2 жыл бұрын
Super impressive dissection. Worth the watch!
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
@Quentingnostic
2 жыл бұрын
The slow 12/8 section is my favorite section. What a melody!! Insta-sub after seeing this.
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
I love that part as well! Thank you, and welcome!
@trimags
3 жыл бұрын
Legend for breaking this down.
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
I am a legend in my own mind haha
@mapkocc
2 жыл бұрын
bruh Matt Garstka uploaded a breakdown of this song himself and you basically got everything spot on. Uncanny.
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I'll have to check it out!! Good to know I'm not leading people astray with my analysis!
@vvviiimmm
2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit amazing work, I’m so glad I found your channel. Keep it up
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And welcome!
@The_KlaVra
3 жыл бұрын
I found you through MetalBirb comment section and I was so hyped for this video!
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Welcome!
@progmetaltv7421
2 жыл бұрын
Prog djent guy here 🙋♂️, amazing channel, instantly subbing 🤘😎🤘
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome! And thank you!!
@ToxicTeddyMusic
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like we made videos about Monomyth on the same day! High five! I put out a cover of the intro the day the song was released, but rhythmically, this was too fun a challenge to pass up so I covered the entire song. Absolutely brilliant analysis of the rhythms! I used Konnakol to get me past tough spots. It's amazing to see in how many different ways this song can be interpreted. I love a good prog talk! Subscribed, dude!
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! Great job covering it so quickly.
@DonjiPicudo
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, fukk me sideways, so happy to have found your channel! 😁
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and Welcome!!!
@thegrimm54321
2 жыл бұрын
I'm so so so glad you broke it down visually, as well. Excellent video!
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I always find the visual element to be very useful myself!
@gabrielabahena8941
2 жыл бұрын
really goooood!!! it's so good to find these kind of videos that analyzes music
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And welcome!
@josephdoyle4774
2 жыл бұрын
This song is just a theory flex holy hell
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Haha, pretty much!
@defgecdean
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome breakdown! Super interesting seeing how much they packed into this song
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty dense rhythmically!!
@kosk3432
5 ай бұрын
wow! thanks a bunch, man. this is so huuuge )
@TheProgSchool
5 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@firas_mestiri
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your enormous efforts man :D cant wait for more !
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@MercutioUK2006
2 жыл бұрын
Instantly subscribed, excellent analysis!
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@GoldFumed
2 жыл бұрын
I'd have sooner gotten a law degree than figured this out on my own, and I'm not in law school nor applying. Thank you so much for this, man!!! The best headache I ever asked for \m/
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, always happy to help with a headache!
@problemsolvent
3 жыл бұрын
Very fun and informative vid. Thank you for putting in the work and making this visualized!
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! This was a fun one to analyze.
@RAUFFUS_0
3 жыл бұрын
Dude I never properly learned any music theory neither rhythmic theory, but I manage to learn songs by ear pretty fast, including the gnarly ones like monomyth! I didn't understand anything that you just said, but it was super fun to watch LOL. My process of learning this song was to first get the song's structure down, move on to the time signatures and then memorize the polyrythyms. Once I learned that, I just have to get down the proper physical aspect of the drumming technique to get through it. I found it way easier to just get the polyrithyms down and memorize them instead of trying to understand what you have just demonstrated. The galloping guitar pattern polyrhythym can be counted in a 9/4 TS at 112BPM: 2 3 3 2 2 3 (repeat till guitar solo kicks in then go back to it). The time where the ending starts there's this new polyrythym that looks like this: 1 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 (repeat till the end). That's how I got it! It was just easier for me this way hahaha. Loved your video though, this song really is a mind spun (AAL fans will understand).
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
I think the way I would approach playing this is different than how I’m explaining it here as well. The theory behind it isn’t necessarily the best way to go about playing it. It’s better to learn the notes and the patterns and go from there.
@RAUFFUS_0
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool Totally bro! I think that too! Cheers from Brazil and keep up the good work!
@christianwilliamson9752
3 жыл бұрын
Youre awesome. You did this quick. I heard it only 3 times so far. I hear 6 or 7 in the grouped tuples pulse
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It was tricky to figure it out so quickly
@sebastianmatelunacartagena2455
3 жыл бұрын
Just WOW
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@gigabrad4570
3 жыл бұрын
The long short trick is what Tigran uses too.
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, that’s who’s music I first learned about it from!
@avoqado89
2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Please go to Matt Gatskkatakta's channel. He just did the whole writing process review of this song and gosh dang it, I had to come back & say how much you got spot on.
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
I checked it out and left a comment! I was pretty pleased with how spot on I was, especially on the metric modulation. That part took forever to figure out.
@Myriam-nk2fw
3 жыл бұрын
That was amazing dude, I love it!
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I appreciate that.
@Myriam-nk2fw
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool I appreciate you! How long did this take you?
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
@@Myriam-nk2fw took me a few hours to figure out the rhythms. Then I had to transcribe them, write a script, film and edit the video. Probably 10-15 hours total. This kind of video is quite time consuming.
@Myriam-nk2fw
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool I can imagine, wow, you deserve every like sub and view you'll get, good work!
@joancarlesmari6171
3 жыл бұрын
Good work man, thanks!!
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jayc8503
9 ай бұрын
I think I figured out how exactly they got from 178 to 87...because if they simply cut the bpm in half it would've been 89 instead of 87. We had 178.125, and it was supposed to be the bpm for the pattern that adds up to 57. Although they cut it to 56, the rate or change remains related to 57 instead of 56. So, 178.125 / 57 = 3.125. This is the rate. The new section is in 56, so when we apply the same rate to it, 56 * 3.125 = 87.5
@TheProgSchool
9 ай бұрын
I appreciate you doing the math haha
@zakf6104
3 жыл бұрын
Got a quick question for ya. For the main riff, you have the rhythms as 16th notes at 112.5, however, after taking a deeper look I definitely feel the pulse as dotted quarter = 150 in 6/8. You can feel this by listening to the synth in the background with a half-note triplet macro feel to it. (Macro meaning the larger rhythm that is the base of the denser, more complicated rhythm) The entire thing feels triplet-based to me. In the intro, the open hi-hat is maintaining the dotted half note feel before filling in the rest of the groove with the dotted quarter. Furthermore, you can feel the main riff and basically the entire song with a quarter-note triplet macro. So my question to you is, how did you come to feel it the way you did at 112.5? I don't necessarily think you're incorrect, but I think that interpretation is a little more complex when you break it down the way you have here.
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
I’m essentially treating 3 16th notes at 112.5 as the ‘triplet’ feel. It definitely could be written as 150, but that mostly becomes an issue when it gets to the metric modulation. If you had it written as 150, you’d either have nested tuplets (if you wrote it as triplets), or you’d have to have some tempo changes. I wrote it this way just because it’s cleaner. It’s definitely is a triplet, or dotted quarter pulse, for most of the beginning of the tune, and I mentioned that in the video. I also made sure to beam 3 16th notes together in the notation to make that clear. Theoretically I think we are both right, I just chose the way that I thought worked the cleanest in standard music notation. I think that traditional notation has its limits for this kind of thing. My main focus when breaking this down were: 1. What are the patterns that are happening 2. What is the pulse against that (mostly a triplet pulse, sometimes a 16th note pulse)
@zakf6104
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool Sorry, I should have been more specific. If you did it as dotted quarter not equals 150 at 6/8, they wouldn’t technically be triplets. They create the feel of triplets without having to nest any tuplets when you notate polyrhythms. You’d be grouping 3 8th notes and applying the beat to that. So I don’t think that the metric mods would change. But yeah, they both work for sure. Just wanted to know a little more. Great job, man!
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
@@zakf6104 yeah I got that. Dotted quarter at 150 is the same as quarter at 225, which is 112.5 doubled. Essentially the same thing. From the first time I heard it I felt the notes as 16th notes, because Matt actually plays 9 quarter notes in the hi hat before the groove kicks in. Once the groove is in you get the dotted quarter/dotted 16th pulse. The 18/16 I have written would be 18/8 if the metronome was doubled, or 6 beats of dotted quarter notes. I’m just choosing to have the metronome marking as quarters instead of dotted quarters.
@zakf6104
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool Yeh yeh, I see. Sorry, I just get really interested in rhythmic interp. By all means you’re correct, I just was surprised how different I felt the tempo! LOL
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
@@zakf6104 it’s always fun to see how others feel this stuff. Lots of different ways to do it. I always gravitate towards the most complicated ways for some reason haha. Too many years spent nerding out on music theory!
@alexisbrat6481
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, just wow! Im gonna sub you real quick, and I'm looking forward for more content like this
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Lots more videos coming, and I have a ton already on the channel if you want more now!
@daniprieto463
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
No, Thank You!!
@HimothyOHooligan
3 жыл бұрын
Great job dude!
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@jamiemorgan4146
2 жыл бұрын
I respect your ability to shred, but as a Prog player myself, for more years than I care to remember, I’ve always strived to be a melodic player. I can play Di Meola genre (speed), but I still love the older Prog guitarists. Anyway, this video is very good for up and coming players and anyone that needs to learn how to count complex rhythms ( they’re not easy) “Somethings that helped me and may help you and others.” When I was at Berklee, I had a friend that was a “ Monster” drummer. One time I had a problem playing the rhythm of a certain piece. So, who better to ask then a drummer?! I bring him the sheet music and he freaks out. “ How do they expect you to learn these crazy rhythms and include melody at the same time! You know, he had something there!🤔🤔🤔. He then gave me one of his old drum books and started me on my way to learn rhythms separately from notes. I hope this may help some of you. P.S. I also really love Poly Rhythms!
@zheydhan665
3 жыл бұрын
Im watching your video for the second time and i got you an idea for a new one: "Monomyth for dummies!" The premise for the video will have this video as the base, adding a further insight for completely musically illiterate people like myself, with the classic bouncy dot jumping in each of the beats as the notes go, like in karaoke. I know its a ton more work to ask, but i also think the idea has a lot of potential and will be really cool to see in my oppinion
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a fun idea, but sounds like a ton of work. I’ll think about it.
@ibrahimutant
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@EmilDahlMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Great work! This is quality content right here. Subbed right away. 👌 Interested to hear what you think of this: The 9:55 transition I hear a bit different. I hear the new 1/8 notes (12/8) same as triplet 1/4 notes in the previous section/tempo. So I'd probably notate the transition as this modulation: Triplet 1/4 note = 1/8 note Another variant would be to simply view the new pulse as 1/4 notes and the subdivision as 1/8 note triplets. That way the modulation would look like this: 1/2 note = 1/4 note
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You could totally write that part out as 8th note triplets in 4/4. Essentially the same thing as 12/8, just depends on how you want to notate it!
@miscellanyman263
2 жыл бұрын
The question is: if you were to ask Tosin, Javier and Matt to play their tune on-the-fly, would they have total recall?
@busterjesik6980
2 жыл бұрын
I just watched them pull it off live in Denver so I would guess yes!
@JeefMcQueef
2 жыл бұрын
100 percent
@beingofjah6074
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i just seen them live in KC and goddamn they pulled off the whole new album and a bunch of fire oldies, goddamn one of my fav groups live right now instrumentally, they were super tight
@occams_chainsaw
2 жыл бұрын
I went to one of Matt's clinics a few years ago, and he played through 'Arithmophobia' on the fly. It was pretty stellar to watch, and you can tell the guys practice completed tunes for weeks before recording/playing live
@JGBDYT
3 жыл бұрын
It would be funny to have video reactions of this vid
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
If someone wants to react to it, they are more than welcome to haha
@mundoeze
3 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video! Keep it up
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! I have a lot of videos on the way!
@chocolatewafles
2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown of song, but can you next time put a little dot on the sheet of notes, it would be easy to read transcription of fast moments in the songs, because i really enjoy this music, but not quite understand rhythmic of song. TThanks for big work, glad i find your channel!
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I’ll think about adding that in next time!
@nuke97
3 жыл бұрын
Gave this a like for the use of an RG8.
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a great guitar, especially for the price!
@Irishpineapple97
2 жыл бұрын
I find the last section is super interesting because if the opening is 5-7, 7-5, 5-7 the ending is the exact opposite (7-5, 5-7, 7-5) with the 7s being grouped 2-3-2 and 5s being 2-3. Not sure if they conceptualized it like this especially when the math gets much more complicated at the end. Maybe an interesting compositional tool that they incorporated though! I like how AAL use different methods of composition as more or less inspirational rather than law and do lots of interesting shit with the ideas
@Irishpineapple97
2 жыл бұрын
Or actually the 7 at the end could be thought of as 2 2 3, and 5 as 2 3. Or 7 as 2 3 2, and 5 as 3 2. My b, a little typo, but it really could go either way! I suppose the only important thing would be to be consistent within the way you conceptualize it
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
They definitely could be doing that on purpose. Those are the kinds of approaches I like using as well. It connects things together in a much less obvious way.
@JGBDYT
3 жыл бұрын
Insane dude 🔥
@JGBDYT
3 жыл бұрын
I just saw ur Tygran Hamasyan video, dude you are a fuckin beast
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
@@JGBDYT thanks man!
@DirkDjently
2 жыл бұрын
around 8:30, you say the new tempo is "the same tempo as the faster groups of three and five," but those groups of three and five are at different speed themselves (where I understand "faster" to be comparing those groups to the groups of 2 and 3, though if I am misunderstanding that this comment may no longer be accurate). the 3s are triplets, and the 5s are quintuplets, but you seem to be treating them both as if they are the same speed, even though they cannot be if your notation is correct (triplets and quintuplets). I was already wondering if you were certain about that notation, as differentiating between triplets and quintuplets at that speed is already difficult by ear. I tried slowing it down in the youtube player, but that introduces occasional phantom transients in the attack so it makes it difficult to tell for sure. I haven't done the math myself yet to figure out whether the triplets or the quintuplets (or something else?) define the new tempo, just wanted to point out the ambiguity.
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
I did say that it’s ‘roughly’ the same tempo. The 3’s and 5’s aren’t exactly the speed, but they are close enough that the pulse from them becomes the new 16th notes. When the notes get really fast, it becomes difficult to differentiate small speed differences. Hopefully that helps, I did my best to explain what’s going on, but obviously this song is extremely complex rhythmically!
@DirkDjently
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool gotcha, thanks!
@jbaby007
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand much of this but it was interesting. I may get into prog rock more.
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you at least found it interesting!
@torus6083
2 жыл бұрын
The 23 Enigma
@sjsphotog
2 жыл бұрын
Just WOW. My brain hurts :P
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Mine too!
@robertpien8708
3 жыл бұрын
This is what makes music so amazing and ty for really help open are minds to how time and be Manipulated and stretched . Math is definitely our friend when it comes to helping us understand pulse and rythem. Just like understand advanced music theory advanced rythem training and really open the doors to more interesting musical expression. You need to check out Planet x and Virgil Donati Compositions and maybe Demistify somebody there music also .
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
I’m a big fan of Planet X! I’ll definitely break down something of theirs at some point.
@atomoclast
3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I just came across your channel to look for more help in writing more modern prog music, and it's been a joy to watch your content! Thank you so much for sharing this. Refreshing to see tutorials and educational information for guitar music that isn't like "Draw a circle, now draw the rest of the owl" type tutorials.
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad what I’m doing is helpful for you.
@ZachMcCordProg
Жыл бұрын
2:00 this is the part that baffles me. 2 of what? 3 of what?
@ZachMcCordProg
Жыл бұрын
I think I am understanding now, took some more time with it. Seems you meant 16th notes? But still some further clarification would be great.
@TheProgSchool
Жыл бұрын
@@ZachMcCordProg Yes the 2's and 3's are 16th notes.
@NizarBH
3 жыл бұрын
i didn't understand shit.. yet i watched the whole thing
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I’m not sure I fully understand a lot of this myself haha
@Vectoxity
2 жыл бұрын
Would be helpful if you place the time signature in the notations you show and also have a visual playback.
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the suggestions. I put this one out within days of the song being released and didn’t really have time to properly visualize everything. I’ll see what I can do for next time!!
@Klektic
3 жыл бұрын
i might be missing something, slowed to half speed, i don't hear a difference between the 2's and the 3's as pointed out around 2:06 - everything sounds like a three to me. for instance, the first two groups sound the same. it's sort of hard to tell though. can anyone else weigh in on this? maybe someone who is more familiar with thumping than i am lol. cool video! i've only just started watching through it :)
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
3 isn’t referring to the amount of notes being physically being played, but the amount of 16th notes each pattern is taking up. The 3 has a rest after it and the 2 doesn’t, even though 3 notes are played in both. Hopefully that makes some kind of sense.
@Klektic
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool ah that makes sense - appreciate the reply :)
@trfmusic902
2 жыл бұрын
There’s a rest on 3 I think
@LONGname46
3 жыл бұрын
I'm just scared music classes are gonna Collab with maths classes for this song... Exam question: calculate the BPM of this song to 3 significant figures. (8 marks)
@trfmusic902
2 жыл бұрын
Ugh I wouldn’t know what to do lol
@florentthirion5393
2 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone. My question is : how can you train as a musician to perform the 3 5 pattern in the most precise way ? Do they play or train on a click ? It seems only a computer could be that precise at such speed (I mean when the 3 and 5 take the same amount of time as the 2 and 3, not when they are played as groups of sixteenth notes later, that seems "easier" to perform).
@florentthirion5393
2 жыл бұрын
Also 2 divided by 3 is 0,666 and 3 divided by 5 is 0,6. So these new divisions are close. At a fast speed this could feel like a constant debit (don't know the exact English terms, I hope you understand :-p)
@florentthirion5393
2 жыл бұрын
And last question... Is there a link between the tempo of the 12/8 part and the following part (the ending)? Thank you very much everyone :-)
@florentthirion5393
2 жыл бұрын
Hey :-) awesome video! For the last part I have 562 653 553 *5653* 5563 5535. What do you guys think? It is a tiny difference but the devil is in the details, right? I also think the last number of the final breakdown stays a 3 (in the video it switches to 2 right before the very end). Let me know what you think :-)
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
You might be right. I make no guarantees of 100% accuracy!
@florentthirion5393
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool same here :-) Anyway, awesome work! I am discovering your channel. It is super cool!!
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
@@florentthirion5393 glad you are enjoying it!
@josephperkins-z7n
3 ай бұрын
Bro..... I swear you hand looks sped up, your picking speed is insane.
@TheProgSchool
3 ай бұрын
@@josephperkins-z7n thank you! Just a lot of practice
@jonathanfostier28
3 жыл бұрын
I have a question: What does 5:6 tuplet means at 6:20 of the video
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
It means they are putting 5 notes in the space of where you would normally have 6.
@jonathanfostier28
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool is that what we call nested tuplets? I saw some explanation videos about it now and it’s some very complex things for me at the moment, it’ll be easier with time and experience in the prog world I guess ^^
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanfostier28 nested tuplets are tuplets inside of tuplets. So if you had a triplet and you put another triplet inside of one of those 3 triplets, that would be a nested tuplet. This is more like a regular tuplet, except you can’t call it a quintuplet since it’s happening over the space of a dotted quarter note instead of a regular quarter note.
@jonathanfostier28
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool i think I got it, it’s a bit confusing but I guess that’s why they made it that way: to confuse newbies and catching the interest of the most curious ones!
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanfostier28 most likely they just wanted more notes in that space of time, and that’s what it ended up being. Notation has its limits for this kind of thing. I just put down what I thought worked best.
@JBrooksNYS
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, new here... Suuuuuuuub-SCRIBED
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome, and thanks so much!
@unknownuser8838
2 жыл бұрын
You're a beast for doing the gallops together with the pick. But according to his recent playthrough video, turns out Tosin plays the 1st two notes on the pick, and the last as a mute. I think that's selective picking? kzitem.info/news/bejne/1XiH0ZimgZpyono
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
That’s correct, I realized that shortly after putting out this video. I dropped this 4 days after the song came out and I was mostly focused on figuring out the rhythms. Definitely would have been easier to play that way! Quite fast to pick them all. Luckily I spent most of my youth learning how to pick fast haha
@adikaland
2 жыл бұрын
At the ending part isn't easier to think from the melody? - the 4 4 2 pattern (5/4 with 16th and slower bpm..and polirythmic dotted eights) instead of 6/4 triplets. Yeah the drummer maybe think that triplet way too, but music maybe easier in that way. Not from the common multiple view but easier.
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
You could definitely notate it with 16th notes, but the reason I’m doing it this way is to highlight the shift from triplets to 16th notes that happens halfway through this end section. Notating for a musician to read it might be a different story, but for the sake of rhythmic analysis this gives a clearer picture of what’s happening.
@adikaland
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheProgSchool it's fair. Maybe i'm just too vertical thinker classical musician. Great video anyway! Thanks for the brainstorming!
@donhunt3r441
Жыл бұрын
wiiild
@TheProgSchool
Жыл бұрын
It is indeed quite wild!
@donhunt3r441
Жыл бұрын
Holy sht! You answered! I love you bro! Ive seen almost all your videos! Haha
@TheProgSchool
Жыл бұрын
@@donhunt3r441 I try to respond to every comment if possible! If you have Discord come join The Prog School discord channel, I’m on there all the time.
@twostepequation1950
3 жыл бұрын
So im guessing this can be considered math rock?
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
Haha, there definitely is math involved. Hence the calculator!
@ThejustinEpage
3 жыл бұрын
Obviously.
@Yungbronson
2 жыл бұрын
Me during the whole video : wut….
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair that’s me during most of this as well 😂😂
@christianwilliamson9752
3 жыл бұрын
It is a 6 gallop.
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
On which part? If you are talking about the fast tuplet thumping part, it’s 100% groups of 3 and 5. I slowed it down it 25% speed when I was analyzing it to make sure that’s what was happening
@christianwilliamson9752
3 жыл бұрын
Yes double triplets. 6 beats in each pulse in pulses of 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 3 3 and goes up to 335 and so on. Its quite clever
@christianwilliamson9752
3 жыл бұрын
Duh each pulse is 3 a triplet sorry there. Lol
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
@@christianwilliamson9752 no worries! This stuff is not simple haha
@Paolo10692
2 жыл бұрын
The math is too mathy
@TheProgSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Haha The math is as mathy as the math needs to be!
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