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@tinusunit
4 жыл бұрын
You also have to realise Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton had their composite Sun also squaring Uranus. They had these themes of composite Sun opposite Pluto and square Uranus repeated in their Davison charts. Other than that, I agree with all you’ve said. Difficult configuration but it doesn’t always lead to a break up if you have other positive aspects supporting your relationship chart. What I have noticed, if you have 2 or more outer planets (Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) square or opposite the Composite/Davison Sun or stellium all at once, it’s very difficult for the relationship to sustain. The more you have, the worse it is.
@AstroMartine
4 жыл бұрын
could be, I haven't read that much into composite Uranus aspects.
@arkieologist
Жыл бұрын
Excellent info. I think it is better to share stories of people you know with us with these aspects as you think of them. Just make their name and relationship to you unknown or anonymous. It helps a lot to have real world examples like the stories you shared. I eat it up. Thank you for sharing your insight. Yes, I am in a relationship with my boyfriend in this opposition. Even at long distance, the power struggles have begun... I have warned him of the red flags or difficulties in our relationship charts. He has bonded deeply with me already and believes in the strong positive aspects we have as well. ... I am a bit nervous lol. I have been thru toxic relationships plenty. He never has. He has no trama of betrayal, lying or cheating. But I certainly do and it's already so hard for me to trust!
@arkieologist
Жыл бұрын
We have a kite shape in our composite chart... We have a few or handful of really excellent and rare positive or beneficial aspects!! At the same time, we have some of the most brutal and challenging aspects... Would love to consult with a group of experienced astrologers to get a second opinion. 😆 • Leo ACs are conjunct by 1 degree in synastry. • Moon in 12H trine Venus in 8H. Composite. • Both Aries Venus in the 8H. We speak the same language and understand each other so well in many ways but Aries is detriment and a bad house to be in. 😬 • Earth Grand trine in composite. Sun in Taurus in 9H, Jupiter in Virgo in 1H, Uranus + Neptune exact conjunct in 5H. 2nd Grand Earth Trine is Mars 10H, Jupiter, Ur + Nep in Cap. Creates a lot of material abidance. • Sun and Mars opposite Pluto! 😳💥 in 3rd. • Mars and Pluto T-square with Saturn in 6H! • Venus square Neptune and Uranus in 5H. • The smaller triangle under the Grand trine is a Jupiter trine U + Nep, then Jupiter and Ur + Nep sextiling Scorpio Pluto at the bottom of the chart. I use equal houses.
@LegendaryMel
2 жыл бұрын
Have this with a frenemy too 🤦🏻♀️
@AstroMartine
2 жыл бұрын
My condolences :>
@luixaaa
7 ай бұрын
Ok so I have to say about my experience. Our composite ascendant is in scorpio, pluto in the 1st and Sun in the 7th house. When we started dating I made our composite chart and saw this aspect I was overwhelmead. But we also have a stellium of sun, mercury and venus in taurus in the 7th house. Moon conjunct jupiter in the 4th. And the 5th house was ruled by jupiter because It is in pisces. I only had one serious relationship when I was a teenager, but he had lots of relationships. So after one month of a really good dating it was official. He asked me if I wanted to be his girlfriend and obviously I said yes because the chemistry was mindblowing for the two of us, in one month of dating he said “I love you” first and I said it back because I (still) do love him so so so much. At the start he would act a littlr jealous but warned that he was the jealous type of guy so I didnt mind because it wasnt hurting anyone. But after 3 months the jealousy came from him was like schizofrenic. Some girls called me to warn me about him and his ex (that he dated for 3 years) warned me so about how toxic he was about being so jealous, possessiva and controling in the start of our relationship. I told him and he said it was true and that he didnt want to become that way with me he didnt want to mess it up so trusted him. BUT he started being jealous controling and possessive in a sickining way. I’m a gemini with a sagittarius moon and I hate so much these kinds of things so started to think that it was the best for us to breakup before things start being a really big problem, I was already afraid of him. At the first attempt to breakup was because he flipped out of his mind because my best friend (girl friend) was visiting me from another city after 4 years since she moved out. So after I tried to break up with him he started stalking me, calling me, sending messages and came to the front of the building where i live and started screaming cursing and begging me to go downstare and speak to him. It was chaotic as hell. But I felt bad and decided to continue with the relationship after my friend went back to the city she is currently living. After it there was another attempts of mine to breakup and i still get back with him because he flipped his mind everytime i tried to breakup and manipulate me. That last time he tried to kill himself by throwing himself out of his motorcycle while driving it. So I could feel guilty about it, get back to him to take care of him. This event was in 11 january 2024. I forgot to tell that his is borderline and has addiction to cocaine. His chart has a stellium conjunction of sun, moon, mars and mercury in taurus. His venus conjunct jupiter and my venus is in cancer. We have beautiful trines and sextiles in our synastry. When the relationship was good it was VERY FREAKING GOOD and when is bad was like so freaking bad that sometimes I thought myself that I could only get rid of him If I ended up with my life myself. So anyways. When I got a job that I wanted very bad he actually did showed a little jealousy of that as well. So back to 2024. And btw I’m from Brazil so sorry for some error in my gramar in english. So in november at my first attempt to breakup with I stalked his instagram and saw that he followed a new girl and liked a picture of her wearing a bikini. I message her asking for him and she replied showing me that she never talk to him but he responded her stories ttrying to hit on her. So after that my trust with him was broken even tho I still got back with him. In febuary I started messaging a lot of these girls he followed on instagram (there was a lot) and started asking them about him. So I discover he was cheating on me from the start of the relationship. The first cheating was with a 17 year old girl (he is 25 and i am 26) thirteen days after he asked me to be his girlfriend but their interaction besides the cheating was mostly because the girl also use cocaine. I never used this drug btw. I search for the day he did this and the next morning after that he texted me saying how much he wanted to quit this drug because he was feeling feeling very bad about using it. He said this through all of our relationship. Okay, continuing, the other times he cheated on me was on days that we fighted or when i tried to breakup with him. Disguting to say the least. So when I find out about all these cheating I flipped my mind because I was already so freaking drained emotionally from his controlling jealousy and saw that everything he was afraid of me doing he was actually doing to me. He tried to kill himself to be with me but cheated on me all the time. I was devasted. We started fighting like dogs, cursing at each other. Next week I found out I was pregnant. In january he spoke to me how he wanted to have a baby with me like right in that moment of course I said “we can have a baby but we have to get married and take care of our mental health first”. He knows that I always dreamed about being a mother. So when I told him about the pregnancy he flipped his mind again, treated me so freaking bad and insisted that I had a abo.rtion. I felt like sh1t. My life was worse than hell at this point. I just wanted to die. So I did the abort.ion 2 weeks later. Even thought I wanted the baby but he was very clear that he didnt want it and If I decided to have it he would be running away from the town and would disappeared, wouldnt support me at all. So unfortunally everything people told me about him was true. But with me he was worse than the devil. The day I got the abortion he gave me emotional support, he cried about it and said it that I didnt need to do it if I didnt want to. But I was unemployd because in january i got fired, hes a psycho with addiction problems. So I was already decided to do it. +
@luixaaa
7 ай бұрын
So one week after I did it I was so emotionally and psychogicly destroyed I just needed him, I needed his love, the love that used to show me through out of our relationship so I said to him that still wanted to be with him, begged for him not to abandon me. He said that he still loved me so much and that he wouldnt abandon me. But my trust with him was so destroyed that I send him all these girls instagrams and asked to unfollow them. He blocked me, we fighted. So I got desperate and started messaging those girls, asking about him. One of them was his sister’s bestfriend. I started talking to her telling her about our situation and she exposed everything to his sister even though I asked her not to do it. His sister called him crying about what he did to me, about the abortion. So he called me crazy sick b1tch and told me he didnt want anything from me. Then I flipped my mind and started messagind him from every social media I could. He blocked me on everything. The next day I already accept the fact that he abandon me but and blocked him from every social media as well. Hours after that I noticed that he unblocked me from instagram and whatsapp (we use whatsapp in brazil). I unblocked him from whatsapp as well and asked him if he wanted to say something and told him i was already accept our ending. He told his friend died and started cursing at me and accusing me of cheating of sending n4k3d pics of me to his friends and other guys, I obviously I didnt do it I was loyal and faithfull through all our relationship. But he just started making this up to curse at me. So then he started to threat me telling me he was going to k1ll me. He loose his mind completly. And I forgot to tell that this friend that d1ed was the last friend that he still had because all of his friends split the friendship because his is this awfull crazy psycho person. So I called the police, got a restriction order for him not come near me. Now if he messages me I could report it to the police and he would be arrest right way. He didnt message me so after that obviously. I was really afraid. Still im this dumb person that still loves him, or at least love the person I thought he was. But even though he did all these horrible things to me I think he is the one that got destroyed by the relationship and himself. Through out all of these events and fights he snorted drugs till he got crazy asf. He already have a heart condition because of it. His poor, unemployed, lost all of his friends, hes crazy. I still have all of the love and support from friends family and the people that know him and was his friend. Everybody supported me from this situation. He lost everything after that and lost me. I dont think he will recover from all the things he did to himself by destroying everything he had by being this crazy psycho devil.
@AstroMartine
7 ай бұрын
That's really awful, I'm sorry you had to go through that. But sounds like the main issue was him being a borderline personality. Taurus in Sidereal zodiac?
@luixaaa
7 ай бұрын
@@AstroMartine i consider traditional astrology
@luixaaa
7 ай бұрын
@@AstroMartine besides his stellium in taurus he has bad aspects in this stellium with uranus and neptune in his 12th house. He has aquarius rising.
@MrSawsan226
3 ай бұрын
@@luixaaa😢 ooh god this sound so sad , i am sorry that u face all of this , u need time to recover from this trauma , did u have any other aspect in composite or davison chart other than sun opposite pluto , pluto with another planet , seems like very plutonic relationship !! Thats was intense
@yteu7198
2 жыл бұрын
I have sun opposite pluto in composite and it’s better than trine in my experiences…I don't see anything wrong with this aspect. and if you are going to see the signs are opposite but complementary, think that for example aries and libra get along well, air and fire complement each other
@AstroMartine
2 жыл бұрын
Hm, thank you, I did also mention in several videos that you might like certain aspects in relationships based on your own horoscope, so that might be the case with you, but ofc it might be you have a lot of positives in synastry to offset these. One thing I also noticed with Sun-Pluto aspects in composite also is that it might only show its ugliest side once the relationship starts to fall apart, or especially when one person tries to break out, there could be ugly power plays as a result.
@yteu7198
2 жыл бұрын
yes, that must be it... and also because I have strong Pluto in the natal chart and both moon in scorpio
@katherinechant7606
3 жыл бұрын
I have this synastry with friends, colleagues, crushes, romantic relationships, bosses. FML
@MsSexyAngel29
4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the "horror" of composite Sun square/opp Pluto. I've personally encountered both aspects with a few people whom I've known for years, including my current boyfriend of 2+yrs. There're always strong feelings and intimacy...and if the relationship develops, it can grow into a strong, protective bond. The horror of what you're experienced may not be Sun-Pluto. You need to dig deeper.
@AstroMartine
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I appreciate your input and opinion, I am not sure if I mentioned it in this video, but I have in others for sure, that a lot of the preference for certain aspects in synastry depends on the individual charts and the partner archetypes you have. For instance with a strong Mars influence or even Pluto on the partner dispositors/relationship houses, the more likely it is for you to like the Plutonian aspects in synastry. Same for Aries/Scorpio influences.
@katherinechant7606
Жыл бұрын
I do,I know the horror first hand. By experience.
@devans2254
2 ай бұрын
@@katherinechant7606honestly, the original poster was probably part of the problem &/or was toxic herself.
@Fxirie_harper08
2 ай бұрын
Okay so this appears to be potentially dangerous aspect however, we have a massive conjunction of personal planets with Saturn, all together in a big stellium yet we have Pluto there opposing this, so I really feel some KARMA here big time. Not to mention in synastry we have some powerful conjunctions and node aspects to major points. Yeah… it’s a lot going on.
@AstroMartine
2 ай бұрын
hope it works out
@lulahbelle
Жыл бұрын
So I think some differentiation needs to be made between those who have a positive and negative pluto in their natals. I think those with pluto positive have learned to work out their pluto shit in a way to not take it out on one another. I have rhis in my relationship and we are jealous we are too intense we would be crushed if it ended but we say the negative out loud and then when it's addressed its easier to confront and we get better as people for confronting the negative
@AstroMartine
Жыл бұрын
It does matter on many other factors, too, but I pointed out some negative patterns I spotted with this aspect. It sounds like you found a healthy way of expressing it, so I wouldn't worry.
@EJ-hh5cs
7 ай бұрын
I share this composite aspect with a friend. We were friends, but at a certain point I began to notice that any friends of mine, even long standing ones, that met her, shortly were no longer friends with me but only with her. I thought I was imagining this at first, then when the number of cases went up I began wondering what was happening. In our composite she and I have an exact sun/pluto opposition. I've distanced myself since then.
@AstroMartine
7 ай бұрын
Hugs. Thank you for sharing, though.
@Maria-qm4kc
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Will this aspect also play out if the orb is rather big, like 12 degrees or more?
@AstroMartine
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I would say yes. In Vedic astrology, an opposition happens as long as 2 planets are in an opposite signs.
@Maria-qm4kc
3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroMartine Thank you.
@starlight6650
3 жыл бұрын
sun opposition pluto 0degrees is this bad ?? I feel like this guy will destroy me .. but I cant stop myself 😭
@AstroMartine
3 жыл бұрын
It depends on what else you have going on in synastry, but it will definitely present challenges
@RM-ti8nf
5 ай бұрын
So how's it going with you two? Are either of you in jail?
@sonofhibbs4425
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how this all translates in Vedic since they don’t incorporate Pluto in their readings. I look at what the Vedic rashi chart says for me in relationships and it is is opposite what I read in western astrology. (With Vedic, says I’ll have excellent spousal marriage and western basically warns of trouble.) I have this composite aspect with someone and I can’t imagine why since we get along very well, the synastry is amazing, and most of the composite is as well-at the very worst it looks possibly boring by being too nice and easy. I’m stumped and a bit spooked by this warning and the differences between my Vedic and western charts. This would make for a good topic of discussion- Vedic vs western’s inclusion of Pluto, ….Uranus, etc . I don’t know too much about Vedic yet, still learning, but it seems to have amazing accuracy in comparison to western which seems more general. They don’t ‘do’ Pluto in Vedic.
@AstroMartine
Жыл бұрын
I know vedic doesn't use Pluto, but I do, in some instances. As I mentioned in the introduction, I also use some of Tropical astrology's concepts, the ones I've tested time and again through empirical observation.
@mrsaurabhsha
3 жыл бұрын
I have Pluto on ASC no wonder I hold grudges
@AstroMartine
2 жыл бұрын
planets in Bharani?
@amaliastar1244
3 жыл бұрын
but what if we have a lot of other good aspects??
@AstroMartine
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, well no aspect is a deal breaker, so a lot of positive aspects definitely help. But I would still watch out for this aspect showing its ugly side(the square between Sun and Pluto, as well)
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