The weirdest thing is when Andrew Tate is held up as a ‘Conservative’ Icon.
@danieljosephbestguy5990
8 ай бұрын
Yes, and he happens to have the worst of both types of bad conservatives.
@sivad1025
8 ай бұрын
This is what happens when we judge acts by results instead of intent. Tate seems "right wing" because of his anti-feminist views. But those views stem from the exact same principles as feminism. His entire framework is liberal
@tookie36
8 ай бұрын
How isn’t he a conservative?
@sivad1025
8 ай бұрын
@@tookie36 Because he thinks all things are morally permissible if there's consent
@tookie36
8 ай бұрын
@@sivad1025so you’re saying conservatism is Catholicism ?
@shmeebs387
8 ай бұрын
Seeing so many so-called conservatives celebrating Dave Rubin's surrogate child was so disappointing.
@gavasiarobinssson5108
8 ай бұрын
A child birth is always worthy of celebrating
@williamjohnson3093
8 ай бұрын
@@gavasiarobinssson5108 Unless its enabling multiple sins against nature
@solaris6070
8 ай бұрын
I do get the impression that the group of online anti-liberal, anti-woke, that have arisen since around 2016 try not to rock the boat with each other too much and want to keep a semblance of unity. I'm thinking of Dave Rubin, Ben Shapiro and Daily Wire folk, Jordan Peterson, Weinsteins, Prager etc.
@williamjohnson3093
8 ай бұрын
@@solaris6070 there’s a thread tying some of those individuals together
@shmeebs387
8 ай бұрын
@@gavasiarobinssson5108 The birth of the child is a great thing, but the trafficking of a baby from a rented womb is evil. It's not the kid's fault. Nothing against that little boy, but the way in which his "parents" acquired him is disgusting.
@rcbmmines4579
8 ай бұрын
Excellent video sir. This is a lesson a lot of us Catholics and Christians in general need to learn. While it is arguable that there is a lesser evil, we must remember we are neither tied to conservative or liberal ideology or parties. We are tied to Christ. Knowing this, we can see that both indeed have their own sinful beliefs and actions, and thus we can avoid being lead astray.
@stevendouglas3781
8 ай бұрын
This is a shameful false equivalency. You must forget the evil we’re up against.
@rcbmmines4579
8 ай бұрын
@@stevendouglas3781 Like I said, you can argue there is a lesser evil, but as the video already covers, conservatism is not free of evil either, and it is not equivalent to Christianity. Believing so will only mislead you, like you may be right now. Do not forget who you truly are and who you're truly fighting for. Or else you will continue to shame others when you have shame yourself.
@bad_covfefe
8 ай бұрын
@@stevendouglas3781 Conservatism contains the same ideology that produced progressivism, that's why conservatism is just progressivism a few decades behind the curve.
@stevendouglas3781
8 ай бұрын
@@rcbmmines4579 you’re talking absolute foolishness. The type of foolishness that demoralizes people ostensibly on your side. Opposing abrotion is not a “lesser evil” than abrotion. Opposing ch!ld sex surgery isn’t a “lesser” evil than promoting it. You didn’t give any examples because you know your point is unreasonable. So what is evil about the right? They don’t h8 wh te ppl enough? What? Like i said, just another desperate false equivalency because it makes you feel better i guess. Whenever the right begins to gain ground in the culture people like you always pop up to tell them to calm down and that they’re abstractly equal to their ideological opposites. No bueno.
@stevendouglas3781
8 ай бұрын
@@bad_covfefe that is a dialectic which is being purposefully played out but it is not inherent to the beliefs. Conservatism is trying to conserve the culture of western Christianity in America. That culture had already been warped from the enlightenment, but the desire to turn back to the societal foundation of Christ is what being right wing is. There are millions of goofy libertarian / liberal types who think they’re on the right because leftists annoy them, but that doesn’t matter.
@1901elina
8 ай бұрын
5:33 that is so profound. And you're right. I'm a recent convert from atheism. I was living in LA and I was sick of the values of everyone around me and started admiring Christians. Never thought I would believe in it literally but eventually found enough evidence to actually believe Christ rose and it's all true. And yes, there is no fuller way to embrace good values than a full conversion and accepting the truth of Jesus Christ. I've been blown away how the world makes so much more sense. Before my conversion as much as I didn't like the secular values around me - the hook up culture and lewdness especially, there was no real or at least easy way to support the values I wished to instill in the world around me. There's studies on how monogamy works better and such, and philosophical arguments on why hook-up culture sucks, but it's so much easier and more definite once you realize and can assert that we're simply created a certain way for certain things, and that what God wants for us and has revealed to us is what's best for us. It has also even made me embrace these values more strongly, and some new ones I didn't really have before, and I like it lol. It feels more right.
@Charlotte_Martel
8 ай бұрын
I share your disgust with the degradation of modern secular values but am firmly in the agnostic/atheist camp, so I have to ask: what empirical evidence caused you to convert to Christianity instead of any other faith? I certainly haven't seen any.
@1901elina
8 ай бұрын
@@Charlotte_Martel My first reply got deleted. It seems to do that when I refer to a podcast recommendation maybe thinking it's spam. But I'll try one more time... So I'm going to paste what I've said before in reply to someone else, as it's easiest. My apologies if it's a lot of information at once, but it's a matter of converging evidence. It's hard to describe just one thing, as the resurrection is a historical event, so you can't do a double blind placebo controlled study to prove it just like with any other event in history, and you can't put the supernatural in a test tube. But the following converging evidence has made me accept that it's true, and I'm growing stronger in that conviction every day. I'm happy to elaborate and share resources for any of the following, if you'd like to further the discussion my electronic male (intentionally misspelled mb my comment won't get deleted lol) is on my padzhe lol. But here comes that list: Shroud of Turin (Jesus's burial cloth and my favorite piece of scientifically studied evidence. Pints of Aquinas episode on it with Andrew Dalton is amazing), Eucharistic miracles, how soon after Jesus's death the gospels and Paul's letters were written when for other biographical historical writings in that time it would take centuries and they were written within living memory of many witnesses and the creed in 1 Corinthians 15 is said to have been formulated within a few years if not months after Jesus's death, the fact that we have way more manuscript copies for the gospels than for other events at the time, historical accuracies and other unintentional evidence in the gospels and book of Acts scholars like John Bergsma have analyzed, the fact that people who claimed to see the resurrected Jesus were killed rather than renounce it (it's one thing to die over something you believe to be true and don't know better like a suicide bomber, it's another thing to die over a conscious lie, like Peter getting crucified upside down for saying he saw and had a meal with the resurrected Jesus), testimonies of supernatural experiences either demonic or encounters with Jesus that converted atheists, new agers, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, etc (you may not find this convincing, but it's evidence nonetheless. Testimony is evidence in a court of law for example), the Marian apparitions at Zeitoun that millions witnessed over three years that we have pictures of and recorded miraculous healings from - Jimmy Akin has a great Mysterious World episode on it, and probably more I'm forgetting. Oh also the fruits of Christianity - how the Catholic church pioneered science and civilization. As Jesus said, "judge them by the fruits."
@stillcantthinkaboutaname5396
8 ай бұрын
Wow, this editing is insane. Haven't watched much besides the beginning of it but man, good job Trent.
@censoredanon8928
8 ай бұрын
Although, I think we could have done without some of the examples. 🤣
@sitka49
8 ай бұрын
Don't thank him, thank his staff.
@delicious_seabass
8 ай бұрын
Finally, someone who's actually saying what I've been thinking. Conservatives have abandoned their principles and values to be more favorable to others - so basically became liberal. We need to stop bending the knee to these people and start standing up for what is true. I'm so sick of walking on eggshells or tiptoeing through the tulips with these heathens because their feelings might be hurt. Bring on the intellectual crusades.
@therealong
8 ай бұрын
@delicious_seabass And what is true, according to you in 2024?
@velkyn1
8 ай бұрын
happily, you cultists are more at war with each other than anyone else.
@delicious_seabass
8 ай бұрын
@@velkyn1 Is that so? Last I checked, the left is a giant unwinnable competition to decide which group is the most victimized.
@mrmr2488
8 ай бұрын
Wrong. It’s more like liberals became conservatives to subvert it. First off, Dave Rubin is a homosexual jew. Jews reject Christ and absolutely hate Catholics. There is nothing traditional or conservative about him, he is a grifter. Trent and everyone like him will always fail in their mission and their groups will always be subverted because they don’t mention the Jewish question. To be catholic and to ignore Jewish history is astounding to me. It’s why it’s so hard to take Trent or people like Andrew Wilson seriously. Christianities number 1 enemy is Judaism, always has been and always will be.
@crusaderACR
8 ай бұрын
"If you belong to the world, the world would love you as its own. Because you don't belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world - therefore the world hates you." - John 15:19 You showed your honesty, convictions, and willingness to fight for the Truth. If you ever stop getting hate in the comments you're doing something wrong. Speak kind, loving and gentle... with brutal honesty. Take heart, brother, only the brave get to earn Heaven.
@jboswell1768
8 ай бұрын
I am a black American and I recently returned to the fullness of the Catholic church and I must say, *THANK YOU TRENT* for what you said at 7:14 . I'm a pretty conservative guy politically and yes, plenty of people scream "racism!" at nothing, but that doesn't mean legitimate, vile racism doesn't exist. Unfortunately, it pains me to say this, but the fact is there are too many legitimate racists in the "trad Cath" movement. We have people like Nick Fuentes calling himself a Catholic and countless racist memes spreading around Traditional Catholic spaces. It's just as wrong as the other end of the spectrum, where heretical Catholics push pro-lgbt lifestyle garbage. Thank you again for calling this out and being fair.
@haloking9809
8 ай бұрын
Yes!!!! Too many in the church love to rant about Jewish power or race mixing . And forget about the heart of the gospel. Not to mention the tremendous sin of scandal it has on the church who end up thinking we are a bunch on nazis. I mean i was watching Nick on a debate with Protestants and when he started spewing his schizo theories , the Protestants. Asked each other: “ Wow the Catholic Church believes some wacky stuff” and it totally turned them off from hearing about the truth SMH
@concernedcitizen2350
8 ай бұрын
Welcome back to the faith!
@ebenade1
8 ай бұрын
Most online trad caths are simply practicing a LARP. Sucks that they are attempt to associate with people like Trent
@KolchaksGhost
8 ай бұрын
@@haloking9809what did Christ call them? The synagogue of who? Children of what? How is pointing this stuff out ignoring the “heart of the gospel”? Does the “heart of the gospel” say let your people go extinct, or not to notice when those in power hate you? Interesting position to take
@KolchaksGhost
8 ай бұрын
@@ebenade1 Trent’s the one who’s LARPing
@jamessilcock7158
8 ай бұрын
As an English Christian, I grapple with the notion that expressing a desire to preserve the demographic and material well-being of my people in their homeland through prudent immigration policies is deemed immoral or an undue exaltation of my ethnic identity. It is crucial to clarify that advocating for such preservation does not equate to fostering hatred based on race. In the eyes of Christ, we are all one, connected through a shared spiritual bond, yet we must also acknowledge the divine purpose behind our unique identities and roles. God, in His wisdom, has ordained distinct roles for men and women, just as He has bestowed upon nations their unique identities. As stewards of His creation, we bear the responsibility to safeguard the welfare of our families, recognizing that this duty extends to our broader community and tribe - an extension of our familial ties. Embracing the divine order, we acknowledge the importance of nurturing the nations that God has ordained, ensuring their rightful stewardship for the greater glory of His plan.
@AK_Catholic_Traditional
7 ай бұрын
Look up statistics of Wh1te Population worldwide and tell me who’s the minority. It’s fine to be very strict with such policies, Church has never opposed that. It’s not hate, it’s the Preservation of own people. Look who’s-pulling the strings while you’re at it 🤥👌🏻
@danielgreen6547
6 ай бұрын
@jamessilcock7158 Well stated.
@ketchupboi6922
5 ай бұрын
“Go and form nations.” God seemed to forbid the idea of one mankind and global culture and government, instead forcing the separation of peoples. I agree with you.
@lo5182
8 ай бұрын
This was long overdue. Thanks Trent for your words of wisdom. Conservative does not mean pro-Christian.
@toffeenut1336
8 ай бұрын
True. Not everyone wants to be a martyr.
@CMA418
8 ай бұрын
Try telling that to Trump. The guy who cleared the oppressed from the streets then held A Bible upside down for a photo op.
@nathanielus5296
8 ай бұрын
11:45 Pope Pius XI also stated that race was a fundamental, honorable and *necessary* value of human society and that the Church had contributed to maintaining Germany's racial identity. Pope Pius XI did not oppose the concept of nationalism and at no point did he declare that opposing miscegenation was "sinful".
@stcolreplover
8 ай бұрын
Do not place race in the place where Almighty God should be.
@nathanielus5296
8 ай бұрын
@@stcolreplover Who said we're trying to do that?
@snokehusk223
8 ай бұрын
correct, race is crucial aspect to one identity and white nations have a right to keep being white, saying otherwise is sinful yet Trent either doesn't realise that or he is intentionally going against this, maybe due to his jewish background, you must always be wary of them
@snokehusk223
8 ай бұрын
@@stcolreplovernobody did that in the first place
@stcolreplover
8 ай бұрын
@@nathanielus5296 wignats definitely do.. Literally other comments are bringing up Trents “race” and placing it with higher value than his Catholic Faith.
@supremeoverlordtickles5325
8 ай бұрын
Race is not something that should be swept under the rug. Race is real and as Catholics we have to honestly contend with the consequences of what that means. Catholics can advocate for their own race and their own people, and still treat others as our siblings in Christ and bring others to Christ and his bride the Church. Love of God includes a healthy appreciation of the differences between the people he made and the uniqueness that those differences bring. I want to be a faithful Catholic first, but that does not mean I have to reject my race or my ancestry or allow others to destroy it to be one.
@mattr.1887
8 ай бұрын
As long as you're not white, that's fine. - Most Christian leadership
@capraagricola
8 ай бұрын
Agreed completely. Trent appropriates Gallatians 3:28, but in reality what his argument tries to do is identical to using Gal 3:28 to say there is no such thing as male or female
@Wilkins325
8 ай бұрын
Thankfully nothing in this video suggests you need to abandon your ancestry. However, race idolatry is an over-correction to the left's rhetoric. Too many so called "Catholics" are getting caught up in this trap and going overboard.
@WhiteChocolate74
8 ай бұрын
Get over yourself
@WhiteChocolate74
8 ай бұрын
Im convinced milk people who go on about this kind of thing want to be chocolate
@brandontymkow1182
8 ай бұрын
I am not disregarding African Catholicism, but to say "dont look to Europe for an orthodox Catholicism" seems like you are "cutting bait". To me it is just as silly to say, "don't look to Africa for orthodox Catholicism". Obviously, European Catholicism is going to be different in some ways from African Catholicism; they are an expression of different cultures, races and their inclinations. Europeans should have the right to defend European expressions of Catholicism in their countries, Africans the same, and Americans also should have this right, without assuming that they are going to be falling in to race idolatry.
@stcolreplover
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, “look to Africa” is very Boomer Catholicism. Perhaps we Western Christians should fight back for Christendom in our own countries and not rest on out laurels because African Catholicism is doing okay (for now).
@nathanielus5296
8 ай бұрын
Ironically, Cardinal Sarah would disagree with Trent on this topic
@emouselOregon
8 ай бұрын
Regarding the question of orthodox and vibrant faith (which what he was comparing, Trent is 1000% correct about European vs African Catholicism.
@brandontymkow1182
8 ай бұрын
@@emouselOregon "vibrant and orthodox" will look different in Europe and the Americas.
@Charlotte_Martel
8 ай бұрын
To non Catholics, the singular aspect of the Catholic Church they are aware of is the beautiful artwork of the Renaissance. Abandon that, and the Catholic Church becomes the Baptist Convention but with a ban on birth control and divorce. Sorry, but I don't see that resulting in mass conversions.
@sanf7191
8 ай бұрын
I am a apolitical person, I am simply Catholic. I am for everything that is moral and against everything that is amoral. When conservatives are right, I support them; when left wingers are right, I support them too. A Christian cannot have a ideology other than Jesus Christ's Gospel.
@siggoph727
8 ай бұрын
This is the way. All political parties fall short of what Jesus asks of us.
@InquisitionFren
8 ай бұрын
This is a platitude that doesn't mean anything
@apracity7672
8 ай бұрын
You have used "amoral" incorrectly. In this context, you should have employed "immoral". Amoral is something is morally neutral. There is nothing rational in being against things that are morally neutral
@sanf7191
8 ай бұрын
@@apracity7672 it was a mistake. Imoral was what I wanted to say. Thank you.
@SydneyCarton2085
8 ай бұрын
True, the tricky part is, who do you vote for knowing either choice will have it's moral compromises? Do you calculate the lesser evil/most good? God help us.
@larryromano7510
8 ай бұрын
Believing that America should remain a white majority nation or to oppose race mixing does not mean that you view orher races as subhuman.
@snokehusk223
8 ай бұрын
he is woke
@larryromano7510
8 ай бұрын
@@snokehusk223 not even. Just kinda liberal.
@stcolreplover
8 ай бұрын
Why are you sperging on Race?
@larryromano7510
8 ай бұрын
@@stcolreplover who is sperging? I just pointed out a rather obvious logical error in Trent’s video.
@Corbin814
8 ай бұрын
As a biracial American Catholic this is ridiculous. America is a melting pot, no race is better than the other and it doesn't matter which race is the majority so long as they don't discriminate against the minority and vice versa. There's no reason to oppose race mixing, why do people oppose this? I'm not saying people can't have preferences but the idea of thinking that race mixing is somehow evil is dumb. Am I and my siblings the product of a bad idea, a part of the new world order as some Catholics have even claimed when talking about race mixing? No, that's ridiculous.
@layabout
8 ай бұрын
This is an extremely important video. I came to the same conclusions during my journey to Christ and the Church. This is what people, but young men in particular, need to hear in our fallen world.
@CMA418
8 ай бұрын
They are falling for the Church of Trump. 🫤
@stephenjohnson7915
8 ай бұрын
Boy, this talk is long overdue. Sadly, many “conservative Christians” are conservative first, or worse, consider the two essentially synonymous.
@KnowLoveServeHim
8 ай бұрын
YES!!! Thank you, Trent, for bringing this to light!
@KM-ec2qv
8 ай бұрын
Trent, you mention no-fault divorce as a moral problem right before the 3 minute mark. I understand the issues with no-fault divorce... but I'm a Catholic convert (since college) and the ability to file for a no-fault divorce was a lifesaver for me. I didn't report my ex for physical abuse that began to occur after the wedding because I was ashamed and didn't feel I had enough "proof," and I ultimately left him because I learned that he lied to me and in his Catholic wedding vows (he didn't actually believe in God or intend to follow Church teachings on sexuality, abortion, etc.). I knew that the civil divorce has no true bearing on my marital status as a Catholic, but I needed to get a civil divorce in order to ask a Church tribunal to evaluate my case (which it did, and the purported marriage was found invalid). I'm now free and still fairly young. If I'd had to prove abuse in a court of law, I might still be litigating a civil divorce. I know the Church has traditionally opposed no-fault civil divorce, but is that actually a binding teaching? Obviously, I am grateful for having gotten through that step fairly quickly so that I could get to the "real court."
@patrickbarnes9874
8 ай бұрын
What you're doing is like how pro-choice people routinely point to the 2% of cases of risky pregnancies in order to justify their desire to make abortion unrestricted. Similarly, in the riots of 2020 people justified them as righteous anger over George Floyd. We let a specific case of an unarmed person dying in police custody become a justification for thousands of people to loot and vandalize their cities. How many people have lost their jobs or businesses or been robbed or assaulted as a result? You're doing the same thing in defending no-fault divorce by pointing to a case of abuse happening but there being no evidence of it. Abuse is a cause for divorce already, so wouldn't the thing to do be to improve the system so that it doesn't fail those people rather than using this niche case as a justification for abandoning ALL responsibilities people have to make marriages work? How many children have to grow up in broken homes?
@springinfialta106
8 ай бұрын
@@patrickbarnes9874 Your reply has been shadow banned for no apparent reason. It can't be seen when you sort comments by Top Comments. It only shows up when you sort by Time.
@rt_huxley9205
7 ай бұрын
Then make marriage hard to obtain.
@snokehusk223
8 ай бұрын
we can only be brothers by blood, Christ and life
@valorantsucks60
8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video Trent. I've been thinking about this problem a lot recently and this video came out at the perfect time. Good job
@sean5388
8 ай бұрын
I agree that actual, vulgar, racial hatred is repulsive. All ought to be treated equally under the law. That being said, important policy decisions are being made based around the false idea that disparities in outcomes (wealth, crime stats, etc) between racial groups are due to socioeconomic reasons, when they're likely actually caused by genetic or (less likely) cultural factors. Decades of affirmative action type policy have failed to accomplish anything, and "diverse" hiring (as opposed to meritocratic) can result in real damage/danger to people - for instance with railroads and airlines - these companies have an imperative to choose the best, not just the "diverse". It can actually be dangerous to let people labor under the delusion that there aren't genetic differences between racial groups. I do agree this needs to be done without hurting the dignity of the individuals in these groups - we must always remember that statistics paint with a broad brush, and individuals need to be judged on their own merits. I also do not think there's any issue with a preference against racial mixing or a preference for racial homogeneity in your country. God made various peoples and gave them their own nations - I think it would be a tragedy for a worldwide homogenization to destroy these various peoples. Identity is also an important part of people's lives (most non-whites have a strong racial identity and ingroup preferences, whites are the only ones who do not currently, liberal whites have an outgroup preference), and mixed race children can have a hard time navigating the world or understanding who they are, or where they came from. In the worst cases they can resent one or both of their parents. I don't think that mixed race couples or their children are worth any less - but I don't think it is wrong to advise against it. In any case, it is important to not forget that every human possesses a soul and is deserving of equal dignity, and like said in the video, to avoid elevating race to the level of exaltation.
@Wilkins325
8 ай бұрын
Advocating against race-mixing CAN be immoral if its meant to imply the inferiority of other races. For example, many online Catholics are starting to say racemixing is bad because it tarnishes the pure and superior white DNA, rather than for the reasons you provided.
@EldenRingBuildsArchive
8 ай бұрын
@@Wilkins325 The “superiority” stuff has nothing to do on the matter, and it’s actually the difference between WN and WS. You’re going against the will of God, that bothered Himself to change every single languages after the destruction of the multicultural Babylon so that races would disperse. What kind of rationalizations does Trent have on the matter? Because none is going to help him on the matter. What kind of culture does a mixed people have? Nothing, rootless people to do the bidding of the next ruler of “Babylon”. Do you honestly think it’s a coincidence that the left, progressively embodying satanic “virtues” are the one pushing it at all cost? Or do you still believe that the America of today has the same moral compass of 100 years ago? People like Trent are false shepherd
@SirBlackReeds
8 ай бұрын
@@Wilkins325 Both are stupid. The reality is that racial purity is a pipe dream. For example, Spain was conquered by Carthage, conquered by Rome, conquered by the Visigoths, and conquered by the Moors. After all of that, do you really think that Spain can be racially pure? Heck, you'd be hard-pressed to find a single person in England who's purely Briton. Let's also not forget that Mediterranean cultures became as rich as they were in the first place because of the various cultural exchanges, which includes intermarriage.
@cryotheum
8 ай бұрын
@@SirBlackReeds Well to give fairness to the argument against race mixing, opponents to the idea rarely argue against mixing within the same racial phenotype. England being conquered by the Danes and the Normans thus resulting in 'race-mixing' is hardly comparable to what most people think of today as 'race-mixing'.
@SydneyCarton2085
8 ай бұрын
@@Wilkins325a bulldog is not inferior to a golden retriever, step away from the false inferior/superior viewpoint and look at it from the compatibility/incompatibility view. The high rates of failure among interracial marriages tells that story. Before the 1960s, there were far more successful marriages in the black community and the white community. Not saying an interracial marriage can never be successful but to put down the optimal choice is foolish especially when most people have that choice to marry someone they will have a high chance of marital success with. And yes, races generally do have different temperaments, for better or for worse. Global statistics demonstrate this.
@MrJoebrooklyn1969
8 ай бұрын
Somehwere between idolizing your race ans whitw guilt is the right answer.
@vinciblegaming6817
8 ай бұрын
It’s ok to be white.
@dsha2006
8 ай бұрын
Yep, Catholics be calling out everyone. The social conscience. What did u think about Daily Wire's "Lady Ballers" movie? They unfortunately copied the inappropriate/raunchy stuff from past movies bc "that's what people actually want to watch" according to Jeremy Boreing. Reminds me of the conservative beer marketing you discussed. This isn't fighting back against the culture, it's creating your own brand of it.
@SydneyCarton2085
8 ай бұрын
Yeah I could not watch it. Shut In was good.
@dsha2006
8 ай бұрын
I thought Shut In was decent. Was bored out of my mind by the movie they acquired with Carey Elwes (had high hopes). I'm also hopeful for the pen dragon cycle if they're not trying to prove a political point. Here's my hypothesis: it's challenging for conservatives to make excellent art because there's ambiguity and nuance to it. It's subject to interpretation and might be interpreted in a way they don't want it to be. But then you might fall into the trap of producing propaganda. That said, I really enjoyed some of the Angel Studios productions. I look forward to Cabrini.
@TheJackjack
8 ай бұрын
I find it funny that you showed clips of black people complaining about white people but you couldn't find any clips of white people complaining about black people
@gabrielrousseau_NM
8 ай бұрын
Those clips are allowed on KZitem. The other type are banned.
@TheJackjack
8 ай бұрын
@@gabrielrousseau_NM i can find them
@TheJackjack
8 ай бұрын
@@gabrielrousseau_NM in those clips were those people really racist
@gabrielrousseau_NM
8 ай бұрын
If blindly criticizing huge swaths of people and reducing them down to a common skin tone is racist then yes.@@TheJackjack
@Wilkins325
8 ай бұрын
Racism is not allowed in Catholicism, just saying.
@matthewcauthorn9731
3 ай бұрын
You are a Master Trent, fight on.
@jimsande5428
8 ай бұрын
This is an especially good CoT video! Very good job!
@vtaylor21
8 ай бұрын
Conservative movement needs to evaluate what they truly believe and promote. They are talking out of two sides of their mouth.
@skylinefever
8 ай бұрын
@@kingofthorns203 I often say "The conserve line go up on Wall Street."
@snokehusk223
8 ай бұрын
12:49 there is neither male nor female also, so that means man can marry man? no, cultural, racial and national differences stay on earth and should be celebrated
@Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics
8 ай бұрын
Can you please debunk "SATAN'S GUIDE TO THE BIBLE"? It's blowing up.
@TheCounselofTrent
8 ай бұрын
I will pass that along. -Kyle
@thedude0000
8 ай бұрын
That's because it's funny and true at the same time
@Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics
8 ай бұрын
@@thedude0000 I'm not sure. 🤔 I haven't watched much of it, but it puts itself out as if it's revealing secret info Christians keep from the public, but from what I saw, it uses publicly available info that I've known for years. 🤨 It also seemed to argue from assumptions our culture has about morality, but didn't prove the assumptions to be true. Kind of a cheap way of arguing.
@thedude0000
8 ай бұрын
@@Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics _it's revealing secret info Christians keep from the public_ I'd finish watching, because that's not the message. The message is that pastors/preachers learn these things in seminary, but never teach them to the lay congregations. While anecdotal evidence is not the best to convince anyone, I went to seminary and learned these things. It's honestly what truly started my deconversion process.
@Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics
8 ай бұрын
@@thedude0000 Ooooooh. Yes. I misunderstood. That I agree on! I think that stuff (again, I only saw very little) absolutely needs to be taught more often. Tbf, pastors' main concern isn't teaching apologetics, but it's still something that needs to be more widely available in the church.
@Freedomsterfire
8 ай бұрын
Brilliant. In the middle of listening to this, my family sent me a link to sign a petition to ask Netflix to cool it with all the gender bending in kids shows. It opened up an interesting discussion when I shared the points made here. Thank you.
@s.t.652
8 ай бұрын
Honestly, it's all struggle. We're trying to follow Christ, uphold Church teaching, and not fall into moral relativism. At the same time, we live in a pluralistic, free society and are trying to defend and protect our constitutional rights and freedoms, including for people we disagree with. And then there are practical difficulties. In spaces like work, volunteer organizations, and among friends, people have a lot going on. With close friends, you can perhaps delve more into your views, but with people you aren't as close to, it doesn't even seem like there are practical things to do. Like going up to people and giving them religious lectures doesn't seem like it would be effective. The Amish way of shunning of people doesn't seem effective. Example- co-worker conceives through IVF. Doesn't ask your opinion before doing it (because they are a co-worker and it's a personal matter). Person isn't even Catholic. You may not even know about IVF until they are several months along. Now what? Give them a lecture? Boycott the shower? Don't congratulate them on the birth of their child? That seems ridiculous too. My point is that life is messy and there's not much advice on how to balance standing for faith while at the same time not needlessly being weird to people. Another example - an unmarried co-worker had an affair with a married man and got pregnant. I obviously don't condone that per church teaching, but am I supposed to give an adult who is not even religious a lecture? I can pray and be a good example, I suppose. Meanwhile, the kid is darling. If there's a book out there for Catholics with advice on how to navigate 21st century situations, then please leave the title and I'll read it. Or maybe I'll see if I can find such a book.
@bobh777
8 ай бұрын
The second half of this video feels like damage control trying to keep Catholics on the Liberal plantation after Nick Fuentes won his recent Zionism debate.
@apologiaromana4123
8 ай бұрын
Based Nick Fuentes
@pembroke114
8 ай бұрын
This bobh guy gets it.
@SirBlackReeds
8 ай бұрын
@@apologiaromana4123 He's into catboys. Not to mention he claims to be for tradition, yet he confirmed that he would ditch any wife and kids of his own so he can go screw around in Asia for 20 years. Not to mention he praised China's handling of ethnic demographics knowing full well that Xi Jinping wants the Han Chinese to be the only Chinese.
@SirBlackReeds
8 ай бұрын
He doesn't even understand that most Zionists are Christian Zionists. Walter Russell Mead did extensive research and found that Jewish opinions of Israel are a mixed bag, but Christians overwhelming support Israel. What the Nickers will never admit is that in the 1800s, a bunch of American Christians and secular Americans thought that if they bestowed American values onto the Jewish people then the Jews would become just like the ancient Israelites. The Jewish ambassador to the Ottoman Empire collected over 400 signatures from Jews to rebuke the Balfour Declaration. The State of Israel was created to showcase the virtue of American values to the world. Israel really is our greatest ally because when they look good, we look good. When they look bad, we look bad. When they look strong, we look strong. Are you getting it now? America influences Israel far more than Israel influences America. But no, the Nickers blames Jews and Israel because he's incapable of self-reflection. He can't accept that he's responsible for everything that's wrong in his life. He peaked in his early 20s and he's paying for it. Don't believe me? Go look up Walter Russell Mead's lectures then.
@nathanielus5296
8 ай бұрын
@@SirBlackReeds you're jewish
@spinninginspace
8 ай бұрын
💎🙏🏼 I do not see this issue talked about enough
@idriveastationwagon1534
8 ай бұрын
i really feel more concerned with "conservative christians" because they may just end up being moral pharisees. And lately, i noticed in the conservatice space atleast, its like an arms race to see who can be the most edgy conservative. Its like theyre virtue signaling by saying "look at how right I am and how wrong they (the left) are!". It almost reminds me of the prayer the pharisee prayed saying that he was glad he wasnt like the tax collector.
@farscape1975
8 ай бұрын
Amen, Brother. Thanks for calling us conservatives out and warning us about how far we stray from God!
@izic6450
8 ай бұрын
Great video Trent, God bless!
@ajohnpeters9801
8 ай бұрын
Conservatives have strange unity ,but it was a matter of time before we went full circle. And turn in and eat our own.
@Fiat.Voluntas.Tua22
8 ай бұрын
CATHOLICS USED TO BE. Now we are blessing sin, divorced and remarried adultery. Catholic truths are being watered down and even thrown out. 😢😢
@cryotheum
8 ай бұрын
Would love to see you debate/collaborate with Nick Fuentes. Love the both of you, think it would be great content but also instructive
@TCM1231
8 ай бұрын
He has spoken on him in the past sadly Nick is guilty of many of the things in this video. I could provide you with some quotes but they have gotten me banned before just quoting him. Just know Pope Francis would not like what he has to say neither would any of the Popes. Not Peter not Francis, certainly not anyone perfected in Christ in the Beatific Vision. Race does not matter in the Kingdom please stop trying to make it matter on earth, it is a stumbling block to faith.
@cryotheum
8 ай бұрын
@@TCM1231 I listen to Nick's show all the time, if you think what Trent spoke disapprovingly of in this video (that being hatred) is what Nick purports then I don't believe you know what his stances are.
@TCM1231
8 ай бұрын
@@cryotheum I’ve listened to Nick’s show as well, he and his fans show obvious antisemitism and racism. I’ve been arguing with one “groyper” in this very comment section where he commented “aren’t you Jewish” that’s it. I’m just gonna let that speak for itself. Our lady is Jewish, Our Lord is Jewish. Salvation is of the Jews John 4 22 and while of course the Church has been established this does not give us rights to discriminate based off race especially not to the Chosen Tree which we are grafted onto through faith Romans 11. May God Bless you
@cryotheum
8 ай бұрын
@@TCM1231 I appreciate your respectfulness and will try to reciprocate that. I don't want this to become a long comment chain, so I don't imagine I will reply beyond this. You are correct that many of Nick's fans are guilty of what this video denounces, which is unfortunate and likely due to them being quite young and immature, but with that said Nick tells his viewers that all people are made by God, should be judged on their merits, and ought not be discriminated against or persecuted for their race, etc. He has a sense of humor that offends people that are not accustomed to it and he holds opinions on race that are not socially fashionable in the current year, but he does not cross the line into hatred. He stays within the lines that the church allows for. Maybe he could do more to combat the behavior of the 'groypers' such as the people we've mentioned, but he can't be held entirely accountable for his followers actions.
@TCM1231
8 ай бұрын
@@cryotheum I would not say that he is in the boundaries of the Church in some of his opinions, as evidenced by Guadium et Spes and I will take you on your word when you say that Nick affirms the imago Dei in all men I just wish he affirmed that more instead of wishing for taliban rule in America or complaining about “organized Jewry” and I don’t think we can chalk all of his comments up to a difference in humor. God Bless!
@jendoe9436
8 ай бұрын
This is actually something I’ve noticed and been unable to articulate when I look at conservative groups and movements. Yes, I tend to have a lot more common views with conservatives than liberals, but sometimes it seemed things go way too far in one direction, hypocrisy in upholding family and moral structures, and a ‘fetish’ for supposed traditional sentiments that they don’t actually hold. There needs to be something to conserve for conservatives to make sense, but it’s also important they know WHY they need to conserve it and HOW to do it properly. It seems conservative groups enjoy the ideas and aesthetics of something, but have forgotten what it takes to uphold those sentiments. The family thing is a big thing where on one hand, conservatives will bemoan the abortion rates and dissolution of the family structure, but on the other hand are okay with contraception and have a “you do you behind closed doors” mindset. They don’t present the REASONS why a father-mother family structure works best beyond the religious or a lofty moral idea, which only works if people actually follow and subscribe to those beliefs already. So many people have broken families nowadays that it’s difficult for them to grasp what a decent one is like and have often been deprived of solid religious and moral formation in their youth, leading them to disregard those types of arguments because they haven’t been taught why those things should matter. Combine with the propaganda and indoctrination which encourages love of self, materialism, nihilism, and how “oppressive” family structures in the last years, it’s a no brainer why conservatives will sometimes miss the mark. Also, I could never figure out WHY I found the social media displays of “trad life” unsettling until an atheist commentator I follow pointed out how the gals (sometimes guys) involved have fetishized the movement. He pointed out how the women usually did things to attract attention like camera focus on her chest, wearing eye catching makeup, taking on flirtatious tones and movements, etc. He likened it to a “skin suit” where things look right and nice, but there’s the feeling something below the surface isn’t quite matching up. While it’s easy to point out the flaws on the women’s side, there’s also a tendency for men to co-opt the trad life ideas for their own satisfaction. I’ve seen guys espouse how they want women who will be a “traditional” wife for them, but don’t hold themselves to the “traditional” husband standards such as having a decent job, presenting themselves as a capable home leader, and being generally respectful to women. I’ve heard and read so many comments from men complaining how “women don’t know how to be women anymore” and use that as an excuse to not put in any effort in themselves. I’m not saying there’s nothing to that sentiment in a general sense, but it’s annoying that I’m expected to disprove the “unworthy woman” notion while the man who holds that view isn’t putting in the same effort to show why I should consider him a potential partner. It’s an intermingled mess where both sides have pros and cons, but are too stuck in their mindsets to realize they are inadvertently sabotaging each other. There’s also been a lot of issues with people, even Catholics, putting their ideology and politics over sound religious theology. Personally, I despise illegal immigration as the exploitative, damaging, and dehumanizing scourge it is, and also have issues with mass migration when a government uses it for their own means (such as voting power, displacing native groups, etc). However, I also see the benefit in allowing people to move around where their skills and abilities can benefit others, and have met people whose families legally migrated and are some of the best people I know. The current discourse on immigration, though, falls into the “open all borders!” and “close everything!” camps, when a balance is what’s needed. A Catholic cannot tie themselves entirely to one ideology over another, and conservative sides are no exception. Just because there’s a lot of agreement happening, doesn’t mean we’re agreeing for the right reasons. If we don’t place our focus on God’s laws and reasonings, then it’s inevitable that we’ll lose sight of why those things mattes and how we can do His will the way he wants.
@NMemone
8 ай бұрын
Well said! The guys who want a virginal wife and rail against Insta and O F girls while looking at pr on every day also deserve special mention. If there were no buyers there would be no sellers.
@feliz2564
8 ай бұрын
I see what you're saying about some of the trad life accounts however I think some of them don't always do it out fetishizing it, some do it to show that kind of a lifestyle is still possible and functional. I see them as raging against the machine that is modern feminism that have propagandized some of the youth to think traditional gender roles and relationships are intrinsically evil. For Estee Williams case I've heard her say the 50s style clothing is just something she likes; gives some tips on being a traditional wife and the kind of mindset that you need to engage with that lifestyle; and she does say she would like society to treat career women and housewifes the same in terms of respect. Also....in regarding them being provocative..... I'm split. It can be the case they are trying to be intentionally trying to garner attention from a male audience by being slightly immodest, however I give some charity because some of them do have bigger assets so I can understand if it might be difficult to find clothing the both covers themselves up and fit properly. To the guys I would agree if you're not trying your best to be a traditional husband, don't expect to get a traditional wife.
@EldenRingBuildsArchive
8 ай бұрын
The issues you see regarding conservatism, are born due to the fact that, conservatism does not have a real ideology, but are merely stuck in the ideology the left had 15 years ago, alongside a weak mention of small governments (which in turn, allows an easier access to the control of institutions, and as such, production of culture). That’s not to say Trent is any better, people like Pearly and Tate would have been seen as left wing deg-enerates in the past, but Trent doesn’t like them because they’re far “right”. That’s how mental the current predicament truly is.
@littlemyy2979
8 ай бұрын
@@feliz2564 "Slightly immodest" is an understatement.
@rickfilmmaker3934
8 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic. You were spot on point and your 'reason' is perfectly clear. God blessed you with extraordinary communication ability.
@petergreen8477
5 ай бұрын
The difference between the conservative/liberal who happens to be a Christian and the Christian who happens to be a conservative/liberal.
@zacharyahearn4069
8 ай бұрын
I thought conservative meant conserving Sacred Scripture and Apostolic Tradition.
@WhiteChocolate74
8 ай бұрын
Nah, shilling for multinational corporations and being angry at people who dont look like you is much more rewarding
@tyler7629
2 ай бұрын
The current political landscape is no longer conservative vs. progressive, but neo-marxism vs. populism. Once you realize this is the case, all of this makes more sense (including the recent behavior at the RNC)
@livinginthebackground5140
8 ай бұрын
Great points, Trent! The only critique I have is that using a term like "of color" is playing into the racists hands because it insinuates that all non-white people are the same or should always be clumped together, as if there were no discernable difference between, say, Indians and black people, for example. The underlying meaning of the adjective doesn't change just because it is put after the noun. Alternatively, adding the prefix "non-" can be universally applied to reference racial or ethnic groups as being separate, but not defined by what makes them separate. Like you can say, "non-white," "non-black," or "non-Asian," while white and "of color" puts racial/ethnic differences into an oversimplified dichotomy.
@Gmx92
8 ай бұрын
Whites are the only race with multiple hair and eye colors, including aesthetically beautiful colors like blue, yet somehow being all brown makes you "colorful"
@therealong
8 ай бұрын
@livinginthebackground5140 That's not an easy dichotomy to eliminate, since you, yourself, show the need to retain it anyway. It seems "humans" always have the need to create them in all contexts, and polarize everything. That could be something new to reflect on and study it. The "soul or spirit", in a Catholic context, has no color and no race, so it's a good example in metaphysical terms to include every single being on Earth. Another, would be the new digital technologies eliminating everything and assigning everyone a number, or code, with all related data included. Any other ideas? Maybe those who even deny genders, and call themselves non-binary, might have an aversion to dichotomies?
@livinginthebackground5140
8 ай бұрын
I don't follow what you mean. How exactly do I "show the need to retain it?" What is "it" that I am retaining, how do I "need" it, and in what ways? Referencing and understanding a bad idea is not endorsing it. Also, not all dichotomies are false, just ones that arbitrarily draw the line where convenient to shift the goal posts. Descriptions and clarification of language may have their limits when it comes to the mind's need to categorize everything, but using exact language matters in meaningful debate. Otherwise, we just talk past each other.
@therealong
8 ай бұрын
@@livinginthebackground5140 I had just written a longer comment from the notification pop-up window, and inadvertently touchpad cursor moved outside the window and I lost everything. Comment format on KZitem isn't the best way to communicate esp. when editing the text in paragraphs, plus the various glitches many have been experiencing lately. When that is said, let me simplify what I was writing earlier and let's make it easier to understand each other. Your questions now about what is "it", what you show, how you need "it" and in what ways you retain "it", are all related to the "dichotomy" you presented about "white and non-white" or "of color", in the context of avoiding racist or offensive statements. Isn't it? I was not focusing on Trent's use of the terms in the context he might use them in the future debates, but on whether you were trying to eliminate the dichotomy or not. As it seemed not possible by what you wrote, I characterized that as "showing to retain it". On the other hand, with my added thoughts and examples I was alluding to eliminating it completely and avoiding polarizations . However, what would you suggest as standards in order to avoid to appear offensive or racist? Would not the simple use of "country + ethnic descent" be sufficient? Or would it always depend on the circumstances? To distinguish/differentiate between the terms, I would certainly not use the expression "to discriminate in order to avoid discrimination" -- pun intended.
@matnic_6623
8 ай бұрын
Completely agree
@jr5067
8 ай бұрын
Liberal/Conservative it doesnt matter. God isn't going to ask what political ideology you were when you stand before him.
@drakeknight7646
8 ай бұрын
The fact that Trent has Pepe in a thumbnail is amazing and I'm all for it lol
@fedmcfederalson
8 ай бұрын
Trent never misses
@Wilkins325
8 ай бұрын
@@drjanitor3747 What did he miss on here?
@fedmcfederalson
8 ай бұрын
@@drjanitor3747 what do you mean?
@gloriathomas3245
7 ай бұрын
Its crazy when have people like Bridget Ziegler (Moms For Liberty) who constantly quote scriptures yet turn to be involved in the lifestyle they publically condemn.
@jameskeith352
8 ай бұрын
Whether liberal or conservative, the only way to truly be fulfilled in this life is by being one with the Lord Jesus Christ in His Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. Gloria Jesu Christe!
@justinhartnell6779
8 ай бұрын
It's not about being fulfilled.
@AlexE5250
8 ай бұрын
Waiting for a Ben Shapiro vs Trent Horn debate on the resurrection
@affel6559
8 ай бұрын
Thank you Trent for starting this discussion! I mostly agree of course but have some comments regarding the second part of your video. Obviously, racism in the sense of "unfair discrimination against people on the basis of race" or "holding some races to be worth less in front of God" or something similar, is abhorrent. However, you seem to through in the mix some maybe-prudent policy proposals and people who fall more on the "race realism" spectrum -- which surely has some racists but in some respects seems just like common sense (e. g. the observation that different temperaments can be more common among some racial or Ethnic groups rather than others or different distributions of vectors of cognitive abilities, disabilities, peculiarities, whatever you want to call them). 9:56 here for example is made a claim that can be understood completely innocently. If you correlate American identity to an Ethnic foundation, i. e. European identity, this is both a statement of fact and a valid proposal to make it stay anchored that way in the future. You even seem to call this specific view "repulsive" which seems odd to me. In my very honest opinion, I think that just as Conservatives have soaked up liberal ideologies about so called "gender", religion, the state etc. so have they soaked up errors regarding a supposed prescription for absolute equality even to the detriment of society. As St. Thomas Aquinas points out in the Summa, similarity is a motive for (natural) love. "Accordingly the first kind of likeness causes love of friendship or well-being. For the very fact that two men are alike, having, as it were, one form, makes them to be, in a manner, one in that form: thus two men are one thing in the species of humanity, and two white men are one thing in whiteness." www.newadvent.org/summa/2027.htm To sum up, an honest, authentically Catholic approach to race may not err on either side. It may not: -ignore natural realities like Liberals tend to do. -elevate natural realities to unnatural heights like the racists tend to do. I see no problem with being a Catholic and wanting Japan to conserve its culture (without ungodly aspects obvsly) and race. And to want my country to do the same within reason. Anything else would even run counter to a common sense, natural law based view of our world (like Catholicism obviously is). I hope this resonates to reason and doesn't sound like "racist" or Liberal nonsense ;)
@thehausen5054
8 ай бұрын
Trent didn’t disavow nick Fuentes.. GROYPER CONFIRMED LFG
@patrickgroyper83
8 ай бұрын
based, but we shouldn't get too hasty, his wife is anti NJF and I think that he is trying to make us connect the dots against Nick without actually naming him and starting drama, why else would he have included the frog in the thumbnail? And btw I like both Trent for his apologetics and Nick for his politics.
@berjastkjuklingur1914
8 ай бұрын
@@patrickgroyper83I think he's definitely alluding to Nick but doesn't have the courage to do it.
@SirBlackReeds
8 ай бұрын
@@patrickgroyper83 Nick's into catboys. He left his own men to rot in DC gulags whilst he remains a free millionaire, he confirmed that if he ever has a wife and kids that he'd ditch them for 20 years to screw around in Asia, and his politics are "I think it's based and right-wing, therefore it is." He's the same guy who tried to tout Kanye West, a pro-BLM liberal, as the future of American conservatism, the future of America. Did you forget that Ye24 went bust?
@KolchaksGhost
6 ай бұрын
@@SirBlackReedsslander
@rockylindgren5885
8 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video Trent but you are way off as far as understanding racial issues, ignorant really. What have you done to actually understand race realism? First and foremost what you should do is have a discussion with a man named Jared Taylor. You need to delve deeply into the genetics of IQ and mental illness as well because those are deeply important issues, I can help you with any of these things if you would like
@skylinefever
8 ай бұрын
I joke about solving low IQ by allowing Darwin Awards to happen.
@bunnybeverley
8 ай бұрын
What you choose to do with the knowledge of our differences is up to you. If you choose to be hateful and unnecessarily exclusionary, that's obviously wrong. You can acknowledge the truth of our differences, strengths, weak spots and unique characteristics without being racist, it's actually very easy. Many are capable, many who would be categorized under the "Pepe" avatar Trent is showing as an example of those evil conservative racists. Denying the reality of race is just as dumb as denying reality of biological sex
@Hoonter101
7 ай бұрын
God did make man into separate races with separate languages for a reason. Whenever we try to defy him and homogenize things never go well. Tower of Babel would be the Biblical example and there are countless others in history. That doesn't mean we are required to hate and denigrate others but only to preserve ourselves.
@apracity7672
8 ай бұрын
In my humble opinion, it was not necessary to show the tiktok videos of the two women with large busts. I did not wish to see that and I wish you hadn't put that in your video
@WhiteChocolate74
8 ай бұрын
But if he didn't show it, how are we gonna know what not to look at?
@apracity7672
8 ай бұрын
@@WhiteChocolate74 Is that a serious question? it's hard to tell with an online text
@Murph_gaming
7 ай бұрын
Can one truly profess faith in Christ and hold racist views? The two seem completely counter to one another.
@Dominus564
7 ай бұрын
Its easier for people to hang unto moral sin while claiming to be righteous, than to realize and confront their own moral depravity.
@Hoonter101
7 ай бұрын
Depends what you mean by racist? If you mean hating others for no reason then their race. I would say yeah thats not very Christian but if it means believing in preserving your people the way God created us than I would say no.
@Murph_gaming
7 ай бұрын
@Wilhelm4131 we're all created in the image of God regardless of race. Are we not?
@Hoonter101
7 ай бұрын
Yes, but if God intended us to be the same race that would be the case, or have the same language, and same culture. We are made how he imagined us to be.@@Murph_gaming
@Dominus564
7 ай бұрын
@@Hoonter101 "How he imagined us to be". No we're not. Quit lying to yourself. Every one of us are totally depraved beings who rebel against God daily and deserve no peace. We are condemned to Hell if we don't submit to Christ. We are in part what our corrupted and sinful nature has made us to be and we have done this to ourselves by rebelling against the Lord. White, Black, Asian, all depraved when measured against God. All are dependent on God for salvation. None are good apart from God, no not one.
@chrisnewberry6691
8 ай бұрын
I always thought that dave rubin was no good for the conservative movement for this exact reason. And i was proven right when that thing with the surogate child happened. People forget there is a distinction between conservative and liberitarian. And the root of liberitarian is LIB! Same thing with that stupid calender!
@gabrielrousseau_NM
8 ай бұрын
He got a blessing to be on daily wire and look what he did with that?
@SirBlackReeds
8 ай бұрын
Give him some credit. The man stood by his endorsement of DeSantis knowing full well what Catholicism has to say about his lifestyle choices.
@Juulmand1
Ай бұрын
An excellent commentary. I watch David Rubin frequently. Even though he has good commentary, everything you say about him is true.
@33dam00
8 ай бұрын
Fantastic video!!! I have been watching Brett Cooper, Amala Ekpunobi, Amir Odom, and Misha Petrov for months now, binge watching their videos because it's great to hear youtubers who are around the same age as me talk about political/pop culture issues and how they relatively share the same opinions as me. But this video reminded me to be firm in my Catholic faith and that they definitely need conversion. Some of their opinions on LGBT issues are more of "you do you, as long as it doesnt affect the children" kind of vibe. They completely oppose pride stuff when children are involved but say to "you do you" when adults are involved. All of them are on the right track but theres definitely a lot of holes in their opinions and lifestyles lol
@sivad1025
8 ай бұрын
I cannot stand Amala. Her opinions are so milquetoast that they're essentially liberal. I've never heard her talk about principle and obligation. Brett is not always on the money, but you can see Matt and Michael's influences on her which makes for a much more interesting perspective
@33dam00
8 ай бұрын
@@sivad1025 Fair points!
@semiethical
8 ай бұрын
Well, Amala is an atheist. She doesn't talk about it that often because she knows she'll lose her base.
@sivad1025
8 ай бұрын
@@semiethical Didn't know that, but totally checks out. Atheists always end up at weak-kneed conclusions
@SirBlackReeds
8 ай бұрын
@@sivad1025 Michael Knowles lied to his own audience about being censored by KZitem (the bleeps), and he's not going to give Ron DeSantis a fair shake. He completely ignored the fact that Trump lied about DeSantis being a bigger fan of Fauci than he ever was. Knowles also lied about why the FBI's targeting Catholics. He claims, "oh they leftist revolutionaries, so of course they're targeting Catholics" instead of pointing to the obvious. Christopher Wray is a Protestant nativist.
@keagaming9837
7 ай бұрын
As an Anglican, I overall agree with you! When I left the left and stopped being as liberal and woke, the conservative Trump supporting world that I was thrust into also had it's sins and flaws, there were still hateful people there. It doesn't matter where on the political compass someone is, there will always be hate. The truth is, both sides are bad and still sin but just in different ways. My left liberal woke friends are very hateful towards everyone who slightly disagrees with them, but the right is also like this to some extent. The only good way is God! Sad thing is, some Christians hate on other Christians too because of politics although to a lesser extent, but as The Bible said, a divided house can't really stand. The only way is to focus on Jesus and not the politics... focusing on what The Bible says and not how Trump supporting someone is is the best way! :D
@achantus1
7 ай бұрын
Conservatives don't know what they are supposed to conserve, that's the tragedy.
@PB_324
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for rhis Trent. Im tired if women being objectified and dehumanized IN EVERY SINGLE WAY. We are made in Gods own Image. And woth this comes worth and dignity. God Bless you.
@caseyk.1386
8 ай бұрын
This was refreshing to hear!
@AchtungBeccaC
8 ай бұрын
Trent coming out swinging today!
@thepickle5214
8 ай бұрын
15:41 Africa has a massive syncretism problem which is not good
@ethanml33
8 ай бұрын
Weird, an episode about Conservatives who need to be converted we talk about racists but we don’t talk about Jews who actually hate Jesus. I hope your next discussion with Ben Shapiro is just great
@creeperrobot6859
8 ай бұрын
True... I like Trent usually, but he made basically this entire video about racism. What about the mainstream degenerate "conservative" influencers and jews?
@TrontaviousKatarina
8 ай бұрын
You’re not satisfied with him calling out racist?
@therealong
8 ай бұрын
@@creeperrobot6859 Well, the "degenerate conservative influencers" do need to be converted. And the Jews have their Torah, and Muslims their Quran The World has the "Declaration of Human Rights", and its Chaos. So what can be changed after this video?
@creeperrobot6859
8 ай бұрын
@@horrorhawk3701 Yeah, he mentioned a few degenerate conservatives at the start. But from that point on it was literally all about racism. And he never mentioned any jews.
@nathanielus5296
8 ай бұрын
@@futbolfan8850 Have you ever read the Talmud?
@remnant-hearts
8 ай бұрын
Galatian 3:28 clearly recognizes differences between human groups.
@SirBlackReeds
8 ай бұрын
Still didn't use the unsustainable white-black dichotomy.
@KolchaksGhost
8 ай бұрын
@@SirBlackReeds you can’t rape my white daughter, stop
@jenniferconley8682
8 ай бұрын
Thank you! This was a great video!
@notdevianart7503
8 ай бұрын
John actually doing things again makes me so happy
@keymaker2112
8 ай бұрын
As a Catholic I find that the Faith puts into perspective the question of race and society/politics pretty clearly for me. However, I've often found that while the secular world of yesterday induced us to sin by emphasizing racial differences beyond moral limits and encouraged uncharitable and cruel treatment, the secular world of today induces us to sin by denigrating and reducing racial and ethnic identity, such that we shirk our duties and fail to defend that which is worthy of protection. Bigotry and Egalitarianism can both become idols. We must remain wary of each.
@Dark_kage
8 ай бұрын
10:45 imagine if there was a Trent Horn vs Nick Fuentes debate. It could happen on one of the alt sites or X.
@MW-eg4gu
8 ай бұрын
Is it too much to think women who call themselves "Conservative" still show plenty of leg, with the TV camera positioned to enhance this, are wrong to do so? I mean a certain national TV news organization.
@alisterrebelo9013
8 ай бұрын
As a lyric from the last decade says, "What the Fox say?"
@Charlotte_Martel
8 ай бұрын
Riley Gaines has done more to promote the Conservative cause than 99% of mothers. And as a woman with no horse in this race, she looks far better in a swimsuit. Trent sounds like a Taliban bro with this rant.
@andrefouche9682
8 ай бұрын
Good video Trent!
@journeyfiveonesix
8 ай бұрын
Very good video as always. But I didn’t buy the Real Women calendar for a reason and I would’ve preferred never to have seen it.
@WhiteChocolate74
8 ай бұрын
Agreed. Their tatas are too small
@boringbiblestudy1813
8 ай бұрын
I don’t understand the reasoning behind showing sexually arousing images of women and talking about how the images are immoral. Like…yeah, I agree. Why are you shoving it in front of my face?
@emouselOregon
8 ай бұрын
Because if you read some of the other comments it becomes clear that some won't understand without it.
@francikeen
8 ай бұрын
@boringbiblestudy1813 You pointed out the hypocrisy of Catholics and Conservatives. *They continually bitch about women, while they themselves lust after women and promote lust in other men. Catholic & Conservative hypocrisy also includes bitching about women, while exonerating men and their popular male vices.*
@francikeen
8 ай бұрын
@@emouselOregon It's because Catholic men are blind to their own lust.
@boringbiblestudy1813
8 ай бұрын
@@emouselOregon What sort of comments?
@jacobopm
8 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you from Spain. You should, if you haven’t done yet, make a video explaining racism and Protestant history and theology. A hint, it started with Nomilalism and it continue with Luther, and it has a big influence with enlightenment, Sweden, German romanticism and nationalism. Best regards.
@mgvilaca
8 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm from Portugal. My cousins hosted three Spanish pilgrims for WYD in July and I had dinner with them and they were very cool. One of the girls was black. I feel sad because in our countries there seems to be a rise in racism. Some people will rather side with people simply because they're white instead of siding with people of the same faith. We have to be one in Christ and sharpen each other in Him and regardless of skin color.
@nathanielus5296
8 ай бұрын
@@mgvilaca Your people are being replaced and this is what you have to say?
@jonatikaWwe
8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this! It’s been on my mind for a while how a lot of things that some “conservatives” say are just so wrong but no one seems to stand up and say it, and a lot of people nowadays seem to be more “red pilled” or “based” than actually conservatives. I didn’t for a while but now I can clearly understand why it is said that the Church is not left nor right 💙
@rockylindgren5885
8 ай бұрын
Believing it is not left or right is a mistake
@patriot1303
8 ай бұрын
Very interesting video this morning Trent. Thank you for your insight it gave me a few things to think about
@mdg6117
8 ай бұрын
Great topic Trent!
@deaj8450
8 ай бұрын
Watching things like this make me realize most conservatives would call me libertarian despite the fact that we agree on much. We aren't technically on the same side we just have the same enemies right now, so we're kind of allied by necessity.
@patrickbarnes9874
8 ай бұрын
The question of how much authority the government should have is a more fundamental issue than which drugs are legalized or who can get married. It is not that we have the same enemies right now, it's that we have the same enemies period. Agreeing that free speech should be protected is more fundamental than disagreeing over protecting smoking weed. We are naturally more allied to each other than either of us is with the left. This natural alliance was more evident in the past when the two sides were "social conservative" and "economic conservative" as opposed to "conservative" and "libertarian".
@KolchaksGhost
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, you’re a subverter
@deaj8450
7 ай бұрын
@KolchaksGhost Not even sure what you mean by that. Subverting people to what? By stating an opinion?
@KolchaksGhost
7 ай бұрын
@@deaj8450 yes
@deaj8450
7 ай бұрын
@@KolchaksGhost again, subverting people to what? I don't really understand what you mean.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
8 ай бұрын
Very good points. This problem has more to do with the fact that various factions of what got lumped in as "Conservatism" were brought together under Fusionism to fight The Cold War. Now though, and for many decades, we became so all over the place, with economic issues and liberal/ Libertarian values being the only thing put front and center for so many years, that Conservatism just became "not the Left" or "not the no speed limit liberals." There was also the major fact that most elite and everyday "Christian Conservatives" had really ignorant views concerning their faith and therefore had no idea how to actually understand, let alone properly argue for it. And so time and time again they fell for the easier path of least resistance by conveniently using the Libertarian principle of, "okay, just (somehow) leave me alone personally, but do whatever you want." Falling back on a seemingly moral sounding and easy to understand classical Liberal principle that isn't actually moral whatsoever. Let alone ever functional in practice long-term. Conservatives said "hands off," or delayed the Liberalism of the day for conserving the Liberalism of fifteen or even just five years ago depending on the issue currently receiving the most fanatical pressure. John Doyle pointed this out well in his latest video about Conservatism and culture. As well as other videos.
@idriveastationwagon1534
8 ай бұрын
I feel more concerned for "conservative Christians" considering they could end up just being moral Pharisees. Matthew 7:21-23 will be spoken to people on both sides of the political spectrum. Being moral doesnt save, only the Blood of Christ saves.
@camvanzanten2058
8 ай бұрын
What an EXCELLENT video!
@EuropeanQoheleth
Ай бұрын
Major props for taking other conservatives to task (I'm also conservative, on the moral issues). 8:04 They're a tiny minority compared to white racists (well there are more white people in white countries of course) but white rightists sure love to keep bringing up the black racists. 13:05 Hmm, Chris Stefanick. He's had some bad takes.
@sanidan2010
8 ай бұрын
Immoral individualists? Sound like libertarians?
@christophlindinger2267
8 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks.
@ignatiusjackson235
4 ай бұрын
5:32 hits hard 👍
@dan-ch8kr
6 ай бұрын
I'd go as far as to say that problematic conservatives like those that are mentioned in this video who openly proclaim to be "Christian" do more harm for the church than anyone else today. With that being said, it's exactly this that drew me away from identifying with politics towards identifying with Christ. Having your identity be rooted in politics will only make you bitter, no matter what your stance is. I've noticed that plenty of conservatives really DO hold a lot of hatred in their hearts, and I was one of them as well! But Christ is calling all of us home in love and truth, and we all ought to answer. (Not that I don't still hold the same political beliefs, but I've found my purpose in Christ and try to focus on sharing and living by His principles overall🤍)
@augustv123
8 ай бұрын
Thank God for the Church in Africa!
@nikolabolsec6707
8 ай бұрын
Dear Trent, great content! Love to listen to you with my wife. But, man, you have to do something with your pronunciation of Italian, Latin, and, in this case, German encyclilal et. al titles... God bless! Keep up the good work!
@charlesnunno8377
6 ай бұрын
The Catholic Church clearly discriminates against women in the Priesthood for theological reasons. I do not object to your right to religious discrimination. Discrimination is something everyone does save for the powerless.
@betos-08
8 ай бұрын
I fall into the racist conservative category. But I dont hate other races, I see it in a more practical way. It's about culture, not race, but the two are very often associated with each other. People of any race can be good but if members cause consistent problems, they shouldnt be in that larger society but with each other. It's like you cant have a good christian society and allow blasphemous pagans to be a large portion of the population and still expect the society to uphold christian values. 2 Cor 6:14-15 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
@matthewjohnston1400
3 ай бұрын
It’s not obvious to me that Trent could make a good case against the burka.
@SydneyCarton2085
8 ай бұрын
So a parent has no right to consider the high rates of failure of certain types of marriages and inform their children?
@ErickFerraz2
7 ай бұрын
Catholic moral values don't perfectly map out to conservative ideology. People on the right-wing side of the political spectrum can still be wrong and oppose christian beliefs in many aspects. We should be weary of forming hasty alliances and putting our faith in secular people just because we share some opponents.
@SeasideDetective2
5 ай бұрын
I started out as a political conservative as a teenager, partly because I was a devout Catholic Christian, but also because I felt conservatism would be much better than liberalism at protecting the dignity and interests of white male Americans like myself, whom I believed to be the TRUE victims of discrimination due to affirmative action, political correctness, etc. So I was locked into that mindset for the better part of a decade...and then I became disillusioned when I saw many women and people of color "coming out" as conservatives and supporting the Republican party. I became confused, and then enraged. I thought, "You people are supposed to hate conservatism! Now you're suddenly big fans of it? Does conservatism only become good when minorities practice it? What makes you so special?" In my anger, I concluded that "minorities" simply hated white men so much that they were determined to take all the positions antithetical to what white men did, and that no amount of virtue-signaling by white men would ever be good enough for them. So, while I never officially defected to the Left, I did inevitably start to drift toward it. My reasoning was that while the Left was even more insensitive to the needs of white men than the Right, at least leftists weren't hypocrites. At least they hadn't lied to me. So, for a time, I identified as a sort of squishy libertarian - someone who was only a leftist in the sense of "I hate conservatives more than I hate liberals." But over time, the mask started to meld with my face. Not only was I starting to (slowly) pull away from my racial resentments (although I still have issues with women, and white women in particular), but I began to see the actual merit in many left-wing economic policies and even social policies. At the same time, I had been gradually drifting away from my Catholic faith, and I was becoming increasingly disgusted with the boorish antics of the Tea Party and then the Trump/MAGA wings of the American conservative movement. Long story short, after about a decade of ambivalence I finally defected to the Democratic party. My thinking was, "They're far from being ideal, but they're the best we've got." Now, in my forties, I've developed a much more nuanced and less biased political worldview, and I've considered becoming a (moderate) Republican again. But I can't shake my notion that the MAGA people have won the battle for the soul of the GOP, and there would be no room for "normal" Republicans like the one I would become. At the same time, I continue to remain aloof from Roman Catholicism - despite considering myself, as an Irish/Italian mixed breed, "ethnically Catholic" - partly because of some of my theological differences (I guess I'm basically a "heretic") but primarily because I believe becoming devoutly Catholic again would necessarily entail becoming a Republican, and thus a MAGA sympathizer - and there is a part of me that would rather die than even consider embracing THOSE people! I agree that many conservatives are not good Christians. In fact, if MAGA continues to prevail, I imagine a majority of conservatives becoming, if not explicitly anti-Christian, then unambiguously against the Christian agenda. Most of the conservative people seen on television nowadays seem to be insecure, cynical bullies. I can't imagine Jesus ever approving of them.
@mikemccarthy6719
8 ай бұрын
Have you considered a Patreon or something like it?
@VPortho
8 ай бұрын
I don't really agree 100% on your comments about Pearl, I think that she's deliberately provocative. Also, she tries to hammer home to those women that the kind of men that they want, often don't want them and would probably cheat on them too. She doesn't really make ought claims, just simply what is.
@tookie36
8 ай бұрын
She’s deliberately spewing whatever she can to make money. Quite the Christian role model
@john6229
8 ай бұрын
Liked most of the video but there is a negligible amount of racist conservatives, less than 1%, while there are vastly more racist, anti white, liberals. No need to even discuss "Racist" conservatives, its not a thing. Tired of hearing about it.
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