I'd say the REM is more of a cross between an RER-style suburban rail system and a metro. Acts like a metro at the centre, is a suburban rail service at the fringes.
@franzfanz
Жыл бұрын
If I may engage in a bit of conspiracy theory. I suspect that this option was selected by the Ministry of Transport in order to kill off light rail forever in Auckland. The MoT have a history of recommending overly expensive and complex projects that are completely unfeasible. There was a study that came out ten to fifteen years ago, where they recommended a route for a possible North Shore Line to basically wiggle its way, in a tunnel, all the way up the Shore, visiting every small town centre on the way. It was horrendously expensive and would have been political poison for any politician to push. I see parallels with this. The original AT proposal was brilliant. It identified two problems, too many buses in the Central City and too many buses on Dominion Road. The solution it cam up with neatly solved those problems at a relatively modest budget. Where it went wrong was in identifying that such a route could be used to access the airport but this was picked up and turned into the primary use case for the proposal once it was transferred to the Ministry. As for the proposed tunnel, you are correct that a street level solution should be the preferred option. Importantly, this doesn't preclude a tunnel coming along later, if the area becomes dense enough to require a full on metro solution.
@tonymckeage1028
Жыл бұрын
Great Video Darryl, A daring thing to challenge a idea in another region! especially a region that sees it self as the leading light of NZ. I agree with what you are saying ! well done, you have huge balls, but well done
@DarrylTalks
Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks.
@SnowAndrews
Жыл бұрын
One thing to consider about tunneling in the "Eden" ~ "Roskill" area (Dominion Road) - Very HARD Volcanic Basalt Rock.
@DarrylTalks
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that happened for the Waterview tunnels.
@nicolasblume1046
Жыл бұрын
The only good Option for an airport connection is heavy rail, anything else is too slow and the capacity will not be high enough.
@DarrylTalks
Жыл бұрын
Stay tuned for the next video.
@thastayapongsak4422
Жыл бұрын
Tram does not take up a lot of space, so putting it underground is a waste. The money could be used to buy hundreds of EV buses to connect people all over the city to the tram line instead.
@DarrylTalks
Жыл бұрын
It's literally so expensive, you can buy everyone along the route an electric car. And that't not even a cheap car. A model 3 Tesla, and you can buy one for every person, not just one car per household.
@Chris-NZ
Жыл бұрын
I think you’ll find 95% of Aucklanders would agree this is a smelly turd.
@DarrylTalks
Жыл бұрын
It's a bit suss. I wonder who going get the juicy contract for those tunnels.
@Chris-NZ
Жыл бұрын
@@DarrylTalks The usual suspects when the motorway building runs out of steam.
@nicolasblume1046
Жыл бұрын
God, this underground light rail trend from the US is so stupid 🤦 For the same money they could build a proper heavy metro line or extend the rail network with new lines. A heavy metro line could have a capacity of 50.000 people per hour or more. And you really need a high capacity under the harbour, 15.000 people per hour is nowhere near enough.
@DarrylTalks
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree, If you are going to build a tunnel under the harbour, make it a real train tunnel, not a miniature train tunnel. The price tag is almost the same.
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