Without the enhancement chip the snes version wasn't even possible on base hardware, you should've mentioned that. Mike of bitmap said the genesis version is the one he recommends people to get, not the snes version.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
@@Super_Nes_Potato Grow up.
@Super_Nes_Potato
Ай бұрын
@@inceptional Telling people to grow up on a channel called console wars. Where the actors dress up in cosplay, what an imbecile.
@Dac_vak
Ай бұрын
This channel is proof that classic KZitem is still alive and well.
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@MrJechgo
Ай бұрын
We live in an era where those guys can review a 5-year old game on 30+ years old retro consoles 😮 Great work 😁
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
What a time to be alive
@RitzLazyArtist
Ай бұрын
This is Homebrew Wars!
@joezar33
16 күн бұрын
Genesis would win easily in that category 😅
@dannonyogurt98
Ай бұрын
Giving the graphics portion to Nintendo is criminal. The extra detail (I don't think you guys even mentioned the floor) through the higher resolution on Sega is very noticable.
@OctoberFallsToPieces
Ай бұрын
Snes picture is not only stretched, but also cropped. 1st Boss and dropship don't fit the screen.
@obsoleteworlds
Ай бұрын
@@OctoberFallsToPieces Even more stretched and cropped on the PAL version.
@charleywaynehinkle6358
Ай бұрын
Yeah I haven’t played it but the genesis looked a lot better.
@TVcasualty42
4 күн бұрын
Agreed, the SNES version looks horrible and smeared. It’s incredibly ugly in comparison to how sharp the Genesis version is.
@wesleyoldham4222
Ай бұрын
I can't believe you guys actually tracked down a real alien just to make a skit.
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
We go all out for our skits! We may have also started an intergalactic war too
@Vulpas
Ай бұрын
There's about 30m of them, can't be difficult.
@pokepress
Ай бұрын
Guess Craigslist really does have everything.
@pwx13
Ай бұрын
@ConsoleWars I am cheering for the aliens to win
@briantran3791
8 күн бұрын
@@ConsoleWars it happens.
@emanuelferreira6875
Ай бұрын
Are we doing this???? Hell yeah. A hug from a portuguese fan
@CaspisSinclair27
Ай бұрын
It's not just stretching, the Genesis looks sharper. Tough call since they both compromise in different ways.
@jamesytez6639
Ай бұрын
It depends on the RGB output. Megadrive has native RGB and SNES hasn't (at least in most versions)
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
That's not a true representation of how both games would look side by side when viewed under the exact same conditions on a real 4:3 CRT or a modern HDTV via the same RGB or HDMI output or whatever. The Genesis does not have sharper visuals than SNES; this is a lie that's come about as a result of KZitemrs not showing both system under exactly the same conditions most of the time. But the Genesis does typically display more pixels horizontally (although not in every game). And the real effect of this in most cases is simply seeing more view of levels on the horizontal axis. If you're seeing anything other than the same image quality and clarity then it's basically an unintentional and sometimes even intentional lie, which unfortunately happens quite a lot.
@guyverjay1289
Ай бұрын
@@inceptional and you know this how?
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
@@guyverjay1289 The literal fact of how both these systems work and how both CRTs and modern displays show their visuals. CRT's fire an electron beam at the screen to illuminate the areas of the screen where it hits and have no variation in clarity based on the resolution being displayed like modern pixel displays do, so the games should look identically sharp if both are played and viewed on the same CRT, despite the fact the Genesis has more horizontal pixels. And if they were both being played on a modern HD display via HDMI connections and so on, then both systems can be viewed with equally pin sharp visuals there. If you're seeing more blurry pixels on any SNES vs Genesis video, it's not a comparison that's setup under exactly the same conditions. The only thing you should see on Genesis regarding resolution is more horizontal view of the levels typically. Also, anytime you see SNES graphics slightly horizontally stretched because they're being viewed on a 4:3 CRT, it's a matter of fact that Genesis pixels would be horizontally squashed slightly under the same conditions. Depending on the setup, one is stretched and the other squashed or both are neither. I'm not trying to trick anyone here. I'm just telling the facts as I know them.
@RetroDoneRight
Ай бұрын
@@guyverjay1289 Because that's literally how it works? Correctly captured footage of SNES and Genesis would be essentially identical in sharpness.
@miahthorpatrick1013
Ай бұрын
“Super Nintendo? Oh you’re dead to me!” 😂
@fxman9071
Ай бұрын
That's a t-shirt all day 😂
@j-lgroen1239
Ай бұрын
Bro, spoiler alert!
@edward18517
Ай бұрын
Still a better love story than Twilight.
@goranisacson2502
Ай бұрын
And after all he did for him, he betrayed him for transparency effects and sampled music. He's better off without him, that alien's for the (milky) streets.
@GodzillasaurusJr
Ай бұрын
Even though I very much disagree with giving the graphics win to SNES (the awful stretching is not a "minor" detail at all, and the mirrored boss without a heart just looks silly), this is still a fair win.
@Daitokuji
Ай бұрын
I agree the graphics do not look better on super Nintendo
@djberryhardkore
Ай бұрын
Sega looks way better!
@inlovewithi
Ай бұрын
It looks better (Sharper) on this KZitem video, but probably not on a CRT. (On modern displays, images look blurry when stretch, or not in the monitor's native resolution.)
@dannonyogurt98
Ай бұрын
@@GodzillasaurusJr I would take the higher resolution and detail 10 out of 10 times over choice over.
@djlamar2
Ай бұрын
A new console wars episode? WHAT!? THAT'S IT! ARE WE DOING THIS?!
@GamerFunOriginallyAarush
Ай бұрын
Congrats on your first homebrew game! It was funny to watch! See you all next time!
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@TheStormMage
21 күн бұрын
What about Back to the Future?
@GamerFunOriginallyAarush
Ай бұрын
First homebrew game episode!
@Cinderkin
Ай бұрын
I honestly wasn't expecting these games to be so different. Great episode!
@MungkaeX
Ай бұрын
I did, but only because the release dates were so far apart. The second they mentioned the release dates being multiple years apart, it was apparent the SNES version was going to win. Had they released at the same time, I doubt there would be as many advantages for the SNES.
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@TheBeird
Ай бұрын
Not played this one but Bitmap Bureau are legit. Final Vendetta was awesome
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Still haven’t played that one yet
@MysterionLL-
Ай бұрын
Current Console Wars score: •Nintendo: *54* wins •Sega: 52 wins (or 53*) •2 ties ------------------the detailed scoreboard: -------------------- 108 console wars episodes, plus 1 "what's the difference" video comparing SNES vs Sega CD (which sega "won") Of those 108, *1 episode compares a SNES vs 32x version of a game, (Sega won) *3 episodes compares NES vs Sega Master System games, (Sega won 2, Nintendo won 1) *and 2 episodes compares a non-game product (Menacer vs Super Scope, & SNES Classic Edition vs Sega Genesis Mini) (Nintendo won both 2) of the remaining 102 that specifically compare Sega Genesis vs SNES games, 68 compares a same game (ex. this episode right here), 24 compares 2 different titles (ex. Castlevania bloodlines vs Super Castlevania 4), and 10 compares totally different games that have a same title (ex. Jurassic Park) - of these 68 same-game comparisons, Sega won 31 and Nintendo won 35, and there was 2 ties - of these 24 different titles comparison, Sega and Nintendo won 12 both - of these 10 same-name-different-games comparison, Sega won 6 and Nintendo won 4 - - Overall scores (depending on the criteria you'll choose:) - - Anything Goes - All episodes, even 8-bit war, 32x, and non-software related comparison: Nintendo *(54)* vs. Sega (52), 2 ties Anything Goes+ - All episodes PLUS the "what's the difference" video comparing Final Fight in SNES and Sega CD: Nintendo *(54)* vs. Sega (53), 2 ties All the games/software related comparison: Nintendo (52) vs. Sega *(53* |52), 2 ties All the games/software related comparison between SNES vs Sega Genesis and its add-ons: Nintendo (51) vs. Sega (51|50), 2 ties All the games/software related comparison between SNES vs Sega Genesis: Nintendo *(51)* vs. Sega (49), 2 ties - Graphics - • Nintendo won graphics in *67* episodes • Sega won graphics in 33 episodes (38 if you count SMS, Sega CD, and 32x), • both tied in 2 • in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "graphics" criterion being compared - Presentation - • Nintendo won presentation in 53 episodes (55 if you count NES and the SNES vs. 32x episode) • Sega won presentation in 39 episodes (42 if you count SMS and Sega CD), • both tied in *10* • in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "presentation" criterion being compared - Sound - • Nintendo won sound in *55* episodes (58 if you count NES and the SNES vs. 32x episode) • Sega won sound in 38 episodes (40 if you count SMS and Sega CD), • both tied in 9 • in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "sound" criterion being compared - Gameplay - • Nintendo won gameplay in *41* episodes (42 if you count NES) • Sega won gameplay in 49 episodes (53 if you count SMS, Sega CD, and 32x), • both tied in 12 • in the Super Scope vs Menacer and SNES Classic Edition vs Genesis Mini episodes there was no "gameplay" criterion being compared obs. for all cases, the "win-lost" results in "Which is worse" episodes are counted in reverse. Ex. Ghostbusters episode (a Master System vs NES episode) was a "Which is worse" episode, where the NES version won the "worseness competition" and so I counted it as a Sega win. Hey man, if you've read this far, I have a suggestion: Speedy Gonzales: Los gatos Bandidos [SNES] vs Cheese Cat-Astrophe Starring Speedy Gonzales [Sega]
@SomeOrangeCat
Ай бұрын
The 32x episode shouldn't have counted as they were stacking up 16 vs 32-bit hardware.
@3xperiment8
Ай бұрын
@@SomeOrangeCat I say anything goes for entertainment. Ps. I would love to see a Resident Evil episode "Sony PlayStation vs Sega Saturn" < 3
@DGFTardin
Ай бұрын
After yet another great episode, we have... Hairstyle judge 3: You're not lockin' me down!
@NotABot55
Ай бұрын
I'm reminded of a Judge Dredd quote: I knew you were going to say that.
@thedrunkmonkshow
Ай бұрын
I can't believe Xeno Crisis is 5 years old now and feels like it just came out the other day. Also, no shade at all the other homebrew developers because I appreciate everyone's efforts but it was this game in particular that opened my eyes to the idea that it's possible to make viable games for discontinued older systems. Despite Bitmap Bureau being a small team they managed to create something with the sheen and polish that rivals commercial games both in the past 30 years ago and present today. I fell really optimistic for the upcoming announced projects as well as unforeseen possibilities that may be brewing for the retro gaming scene the rest of this decade. 😎
@KungKras
Ай бұрын
I think the extra sharpness and the crisper music should give the graphics and sound wins to the megadrive.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
There is no extra sharpness. You're taking the capture footage in the video far too literally. Go do just a tiny bit of research and you'll realise that what you're seeing in this video is not both versions being captured under exactly the same conditions. See my latest post above for a link to a clip of both versions side by side captured under the same conditions. They are both either identically perfectly sharp on modern displays or they are both softer with one slightly stretched and one slightly squahed on old CRTs. That is just a fact. Also, the music sounds basically idential to the actual ear--no one gives a sh*t about some random KHz number on paper other than fanboys pretending it matters even when it litrally doesn't like in this example--but the SNES clearly has way more voice samples throughout, so it's totally legit to give the SNES the win for audio here because overall it has the better audio. The fact some people think this is even debatle is just absurd and shows how completely biased some people are, to the point they can't even see and hear the objective reality in front of them anymore. I mean, come on, for God's sake. It's not that hard to just be honest and fair here. Or maybe it actually is for some people.
@KungKras
Ай бұрын
@@inceptional The music isn't identical. It's clearly more muffled on the SNES. Also, the megadrive graphics chip has a higher resolution, so its images are obviously going to be sharper because of the higher resolution. This isn't really up for arguing.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
@@KungKras No, it's not clearly more muffled on SNES. That's just your fanboy manipulating your ears to hear what you want to be true. And none of you would notice a difference in the slightest without some nerdy direct AB comparison, to the point any difference there is utterly irrelevant in reality. The music sounds basically identical to the ear, but the SNES version clearly and absolutely has far more voice samples throught. So, unless you're a totally biased fanboy trying to win the particular vs battle on nothing burgers, the SNES just wins in terms of the overall audio here. Similarly, they are identically sharp when captured under the same conditions. But, again, your fanboy sees something that confirms your bias, and rather than actually checking it, you just go with the lie. And you clearly don't understand the difference between seeing larger levels horizontally and the actual pixel sharpness. Both versions have idential softness if viewed on an old CRT, with the Genesis having slightly horizontally squashed pixels and the SNES having slighly horizontally stretched visuals. Or, if viewed on a modern display, both can have equaly perfectly proportined pixels with literally zero horizontal stretch or squash and perfect sharpness. The Genesis version has larger levels and no cropping horizontally, but the SNES version counters with proper transparency effects throughout (the dropship shadow, the muzzle flash, the explosions, the camoflaged enemies, etc) and additional weather effects like mist and rain in some levels. These are just simple objective facts.
@KungKras
Ай бұрын
@@inceptional Then you live in an entirely different reality than me I guess. Bye.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
@@KungKras Of this I have no doubt.
@iPlaySEGA
Ай бұрын
One of the best homebrew games in the past years.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
Agreed.
@SomeOrangeCat
Ай бұрын
I feel like it falls just short of greatness from a price vs content standpoint. If we're talking physical editions, its over $50 for a game that you can beat in an hour! That might have flown in 1994, but this is 2024. And at the risk of being told "git gud!" I feel the "We made this hard for teh lulz!" factor detracts from the overall experience. Even CONTRA doesn't punish you for using the lives code.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
@@SomeOrangeCat For a retro game, I'm personally okay with the length. And the price is in line with most games like this, so I can't personally knock it for this either. But that's just my own take.
@SomeOrangeCat
Ай бұрын
@@inceptional I just find it a poor value.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
@@SomeOrangeCat I can understand your point of view, even if it differs from mine.
@goat0451
Ай бұрын
I love the Saturday morning cartoon vibes in these videos
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
That’s what we’re going for!
@schneeraizer2369
Ай бұрын
And Pitfall the Mayan Adventure when?
@FoxerTails
Ай бұрын
Eventually. I'm fairly certain they have quite the backlog already.
@pacmancdi
Ай бұрын
That would be a good one. Also Pac-Man 2 the new adventures
@3xperiment8
Ай бұрын
@@schneeraizer2369 Weapon Lord!
@NotABot55
Ай бұрын
Uncharted Waters II New Horizons (maybe on Talk Like a Pirate Day, maybe not.)
@M567dk
Ай бұрын
I never heard of this video game until today and even I am impress with the many rereleases of this game on various consoles. Thank you for this amazing informative video.
@AxelDragani
Ай бұрын
Pier Solar, Demons of Asteborg and Astebros are some good modern releases on the Genesis 😎👍
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
We love to be weird and inform
@midwestmonster9886
Ай бұрын
For the record, 90s Spider-Man got away with two punches despite the censorship: Kingpin and the Spot.
@HertzBadguise
Ай бұрын
Also in that Spider-Man cartoon they weren’t allowed to say any version of the word dead in reference to a human person, so they said “destroy” instead. Kingpin was always trying to destroy spider-man. The building got cleared out before it collapsed to no one was destroyed, etc. a truly magnificent piece of pop culture.
@supermetroid009
28 күн бұрын
God bless you guys you guys are the last sacred bastion of old-school KZitem no gimmicks, no money begging, no second-guessing your comedy for the sake of monetization, please keep doing what you’re doing. I love your videos.
@slamjackson2137
Ай бұрын
One of the best episodes yet, glad you’s’r still pumpin these jwns out
@seansukul7246
Ай бұрын
I love the alien love triangle sketch here! How romantic lol 😅
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Was afraid it would be too weird. Glad people are enjoying it
@metrowater2819
Ай бұрын
@@ConsoleWars naw it WAS disturbing. I had to take back the like on the video.
@josephrowe2202
Ай бұрын
Umm, nobody mentioned how freaking blurry the SNES game is? It was the first thing I noticed. It looks like there's Vaseline all over the screen
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
I'll just repeat myself: I have to point out some weird inconsistency with the image quality of both versions here, at least to my eyes. If the games were both being played output on a real CRT, there should be no more or less clarity in any version, as that's how the CRT's electron beam works there. So, it looks to me like maybe one is taking footage from a SNES playing via a CRT and the other as if it were a Genesis output on some digital monitor using modern connections or something, which is really not like for like. But that just seems to be what I'm seeing here anyway. I might be wrong, but something seems off there.
@Super_Nes_Potato
Ай бұрын
Without an enhancement chip the snes version wasn't even possible, that should've nullified this comparison to begin with.
@Super_Nes_Potato
Ай бұрын
@@inceptionalThe snes graphics were always muddy, and it's even worse here. Atleast they mentioned the snes using a enhancement chip, which was thanks to me telling them on their streams.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
@@Super_Nes_Potato Grow up.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
@@Super_Nes_Potato Grow up.
@zooropa04
Ай бұрын
I just noticed the action figures of you two in the background. Superb.
@3xperiment8
Ай бұрын
@@zooropa04 Those were used in an episode 😎
@pr6046
Ай бұрын
Judge dredd please 🙏
@EscalationTV
Ай бұрын
@@pr6046 That will be the next Episode how it's hinted at the End.
@3xperiment8
Ай бұрын
@@EscalationTV Those hints become better each video 😂
@DongCorleone
Ай бұрын
Homebrew or not, you guys still bring it with these episodes.
@JarlBarbossa
Ай бұрын
19:00 Best "that's it are we doin this" yet 😂
@Adamtendo_player_1
Ай бұрын
Congratulations guys on doing your first homebrew game for console wars.
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@MelRetro
Ай бұрын
*YEAH!! Console Wars!!* ❤️
@MelRetro
Ай бұрын
@@RinaRetro rooting for the underdog, huh? 😁
@VladimirFlashbangYZX
Ай бұрын
2 accounts 1 person and male irl.
@VladimirFlashbangYZX
Ай бұрын
On emulators aka this dude has 0 oldschool hardware and software and is a phony from A to Z!
@TheDaggerman30
Ай бұрын
Having a huge Console Wars marathon today! Plus getting some gameplay on both systems!
@clarafedde8674
Ай бұрын
"Sega needs the 32x to play Doom." I literally lost my #### with that joke. Great video. Hope you do more modern games too.
@K7O9W13
Ай бұрын
as a sega kid... i felt that...
@saratov99
Ай бұрын
They cheated there too. Super FX2 chip.
@clarafedde8674
Ай бұрын
@@saratov99 that chip is already in the cart. The 32x was an add on for the console required to play 32x games. It's similar to buying the N64 expansion pack just to play like 3 games
@saratov99
Ай бұрын
@@clarafedde8674 Point is Sega also had a chip like that in Virtua Racing cartridge. They could have Doom on Megadrive as well. Would probably be better than SNES due to faster CPU.
@Devilhelll
Ай бұрын
And Doom on the SNES uses special chips And today Doom came out running on the mega drive without the use of special chips 2x faster than on the SNES.
@charlessackett533
Ай бұрын
This was one of the best episodes ever guys! Great job.
@starblaze27
Ай бұрын
Sadly Nintendo was going to have a advantage because it came out 4-5 years after Genesis which means it had time to be refined. That being said, I had to disagree with the graphics part. Even with the improvements and extra effects in some places, the issue with the resolution and how it made some things look a little blurry hurts it, while the Genesis one looked fine throughout. To me that little part kinda makes it look less polished compared to Genesis. Gameplay I agree with. Sound is perhaps maybe a tie to me. I like the SNES voice overs and while the SNES music is decent, I felt more connected to Genesis's music. It also sounded like something you could put in some cyberpunk/cyber-horror stuff.
@DrAcOFoto
Ай бұрын
They are definitely not using the SNES RGB cable to capture the video footage, and it shows, as it gives unexperienced people the illusion of being a "little blurry", when the console produces sharp graphics, which you can even check on MyLifeInGaming videos about RGB quality. They could also likely be using a 2CHIP console, instead of a 1CHIP, Jr. or RGB modded Jr. This is not something they could capture through emulation - unlike the Genesis, if they wanted or did - as the SNES port can't be emulated yet.
@Adamtendo_player_1
Ай бұрын
The Nintendo version is basically sampling the music from the Genesis version so the music is pretty much identical. It’s just that the Mega Drive version has better sound clarity and it is the original version anyway
@EinhanderPilotSantos
Ай бұрын
16:13 Good God Patrick that man had a family!! 😂
@Semrosto
Ай бұрын
This is a great port for the Super Nintendo. I'm impressed.
@denardoellisjr
Ай бұрын
16:16 Pat with the Mic drop that made Dan stfu for once 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Super_Nes_Potato
Ай бұрын
Actually that was a incorrect reference, the snes doom used the FX2 chip against the 32X, he made a mistake using that as a example.
@denardoellisjr
Ай бұрын
@GenesisStillDoes True but I loved Dan's reaction... priceless 🤣 🤣
@SomeOrangeCat
Ай бұрын
@@Super_Nes_Potato It'll run on the SNES though. All the "extra" stuff you need comes built into the cartridge. The Sega port of Doom required you buy an extra $200 addon. All to play a game that's missing a third of the levels, two of the bosses, the ending and the best weapon in the game is locked behind a game-breaking cheat code.
@Super_Nes_Potato
Ай бұрын
@@SomeOrangeCat The genesis could've used the SVP chip for doom, but sega wanted people to buy the expensive 32X for profit and to doom the company, but its still a incorrect reference cause there's no hardware manipulation in the genesis version of xenocrisis like the snes version.
@3xperiment8
Ай бұрын
@@Super_Nes_Potato No. You know It couldn't. A SVP would not replace the 32x.
@chocolocojames213
Ай бұрын
Cool episode. I have this for the Vita, the best version of them all 😁😁😁
@kiwibro6454
Ай бұрын
Both games are pretty much good as is but I prefer the Sega game for the fact that it looks that good on stock hardware without even using helper chips, also random fact, the fonts used for the area introductions and boss intros are taken from alien soldier , I thought that would be kinda interesting to mention
@voxtek
Ай бұрын
Holy crap if they had just done Sega's music like this back in the 90s that sounds great coming through FM, I think Streets of rage 2 also used fm, which is why its the best soundtrack on the genesis.
@HeadacheCentral
Ай бұрын
The Mega Drive's sound chip was FM by default, it's just that due to the limited amount of time composers had in that era, it was difficult to really get the most out of the possible noise tones that could be created with said chip.
@Thor-Orion
Ай бұрын
A lot of Japanese studios used the FM Synth through their own drivers, a lot of American studios used GEMS.
@WhitePointerGaming
Ай бұрын
I've played the Evercade version, which I believe is based on the Sega version but there might be some minor differences, and the controller is actually more like a SNES controller so it plays really well without the grievances mentioned. Really good game, also really hard. I wasn't aware they had even released a SNES version so there you go. Good episode!
@dagaroth8830
Ай бұрын
I like the Batman reference at the "fonts" section
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
A little Pat ad lib there
@ravagingwolverine
Ай бұрын
I love how just days ago they announced a GBA version of the game making Console Wars' very thorough listing of all the platforms for Xeno Crisis out of date already. Another fun one here. I could tell Pat had a thing for the alien despite not letting on about it. As for the comparison, I'll just say that I've looked for proper comparisons before and never could really find anything good, so this is the best reference I've seen taking a look at the changes made to the SNES version. I knew there would have to be some changes for the worse, but also great to see that they took advantage of the hardware where they could, along with making that tweak to the roll. I still haven't played this one.
@borrellipatrick
Ай бұрын
Somehow missed it on Switch but I'll rectify that when my Bitmap Bureau collection comes in 🤓
@Agrahim
Ай бұрын
Huh, the opening took a turn I wasn't expecting. So Nintendo DID find Al attractive!
@troybilko
Ай бұрын
As much as I love the sega genesis, this was very fair. The improvements at the end put it over the top and I agree with your assessment
@lilbearbjj
Ай бұрын
Great job guys. I never played this game as a kid but because of this review I bought xeno crisis on switch.
@thecunninlynguist
Ай бұрын
i LOVE you are comparing these "new" games. its awesome snes/gen kids that are now adults are making these games out of love for that gen
@bryanevans6931
Ай бұрын
Definitely need more homebrew.
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Seeing the reaction to this episode, I think we will
@ZZtheDark
Ай бұрын
1:10, Al Ian, eh? Nice naming convention. 5:00, whoa! 8:15, o.o He's gon' nuts. 13:18, good ol' blood and gore. 13:37, wtf? 14:27, don't save this guy. 16:47, le gasp!! 18:34, NOOOOOOO! Al!
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Always enjoy checking out your highlights!
@ZZtheDark
Ай бұрын
@@ConsoleWars No prob. Always happy to check your videos out.
@DrAcOFoto
Ай бұрын
This episode has the funniest pre-game skit EVER (Al Ien and the love triangle, lol). Dan almost laughed at the "ARE WE DOIN THIS"... and the Doom 32X jab by Pat sealed the deal. xD
@miahthorpatrick1013
Ай бұрын
@@DrAcOFoto Haha that Doom 32X jab was spot on! I was just watching the Doom episode of Console Wars the other day!
@TheDumontShow
Ай бұрын
That jab has me cracking up because he was just so nonchalant about it. He was right too
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@muhanc.a.9299
Ай бұрын
Congratulations to both of you, each episode you level up like the foam on a very cold root beer. Your creativity level is over 9000! It's crazy. 😅
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@michaelmercury1297
Ай бұрын
These games were created for Sega in 2019 and for Nintendo in 2024? What? They still make games for Genesis and Super Nintendo?
@jamesytez6639
Ай бұрын
Indie development 🤷
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
Indeed they do. In fact, two brand new games, ZPF for Genesis and Cooly Skunk for SNES, are both on Kickstarter getting funded as I type. And there's many more examples that that, although I mention those two purely because they're both being Kickstarted and are worth looking at there. Kinda bonkers, isn't it.
@jatohack2719
Ай бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/o6uHtaqin5d0g2ksi=PkH_Cjvnqu-Zy69D Megadrive new games
@TIGFAD
Ай бұрын
Yes, it's a homebrew game
@chopdog6563
Ай бұрын
The Genesis continues to get several games (games that would have been considered acceptable as a retail release) for a year for the past 10 years or so. The NES also gets a fair number per year. SNES releases are much rarer (the homebrew tools aren't as mature, so it's harder to develop for).
@dandice1222
Ай бұрын
Nice episode for a dedicated Retro Game, also nice new mancave
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Thank you! Very happy with my new man cave. Just gotta decorate it
@ivanlyutiy7437
Ай бұрын
Cool! The next video will obviously be Micro Machines/ right?
@chitlitlah
Ай бұрын
That's what I got from the hint too.
@PikaLink91
Ай бұрын
8:25 Best way to decide on a tie "Did we really just talk about font size?"
@CarecaRetrogamer
Ай бұрын
Hey Dan and Pat! Amazing episode, guys... and that last part... lol that's REALLY what a Sega person would have done to Al... 🤣🤣🤣 So, next episode was easy to decypher... Judge Dredd!!! yayyy! This is Console Waaaaaarrrrs!
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@CarecaRetrogamer
Ай бұрын
@@ConsoleWars As always, man!
@RocKnight11
Ай бұрын
16:45 😮 Oh, my God.... did Pat just wink at me?
@SomeOrangeCat
Ай бұрын
*gasp* He did! Ooooooh, I think he likes you!
@ErwalDeeas
Ай бұрын
2:31 Give this man the academy award right here!
@DinoJogja
Ай бұрын
I hope you guys reach 100k subs soon. Im watching you guys since 2015.
@itchyisvegeta
Ай бұрын
Seriously, your best episode ever! Xeno Crisis has set the standard for indy games on old consoles. Can't wait to see future game releases on consoles by them.
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@kenshiroeltounsi9557
Ай бұрын
when they talk about font sizes you know this gon be a good one
@MattWheelerGA
Ай бұрын
“General Dookie Jenkins” proves that Dan and I would be much better friends than I had ever considered
@SomeOrangeCat
Ай бұрын
He's the greatest comedy writer of our times.
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Actually that was Pat who came up with the name
@SomeOrangeCat
Ай бұрын
@@ConsoleWars He should be in charge of naming all the things then.
@SuperXzm
29 күн бұрын
"I wanted to believe, but you broke my heart!"
@The_RadicalOne
Ай бұрын
Yes!! I’ve been waiting for this!
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Hope it was worth the wait Reggie
@alexanderjones3830
Ай бұрын
I couldn't give the win for sound to the SNES just for how muffled the music sounds. Genesis music sounds so much clearer.
@FlyingDuckMan360
Ай бұрын
Animal Fun Fact: This episode was (coincidentally) uploaded on the same day as Bugs Bunny's 84th birthday. I hope to see an episode on his games someday; Rabbit Rampage Vs. Double Trouble.
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Don’t worry. On the list!
@FlyingDuckMan360
Ай бұрын
@@ConsoleWars That's good to hear.
@lganeshan86
Ай бұрын
I miss you guys!! I deeply appreciate you and grateful you guys having an awesome channel review❤❤
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@WorldWithOEnd
Ай бұрын
SNES button layout for the roll button makes it a win
@AGwolf2097
Ай бұрын
I'm usually the first person to say the Genesis often sounds better than snes but I literally couldn't tell a difference between the two as far as music goes, I was expecting snes to sound super muddy. I'm a fan of the added voices, too.
@ralph59500
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video :-) You should compare Mr Nutz , Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis, a very good french game. Mr Nutz was first programmed for the SNES, and the Genesis port is very good
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
On the list. We have the games
@machomusprime50
Ай бұрын
Al looks like a grey Spiderman suit. 😂😂
@chrislaustin
Ай бұрын
And this was just announced a few days ago for the GBA, and it looks pretty damn good. Not sure on the controls, but time will tell.
@tomevil6
Ай бұрын
As a distant relative to General Dookie Jenkins I can confirm all these events to be true! Great video as always guys!
@Retro_Troll
Ай бұрын
The snes version looks like utter trash, puny screen resolution, stretched out image, muffled music, not to mention it has a enhancement chip in order to be on par with the blast processing of the genesis.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
Grow up.
@3xperiment8
Ай бұрын
@@Retro_Troll You mean the Blast Sound process on Top Gear 2 and Rock n Roll Racing? Genesis can't play music and sound effects at same time 😢
@voiceranger2
12 күн бұрын
This review was legitimately so awesome I went and ordered the physical SNES version after watching it! Good stuff! What’s the next homebrew console wars review? Eyra: The Crow Maiden? 😂
@TheDumontShow
Ай бұрын
"You had to use the 32X to play Doom". 😂😂😂 I laughed so hard at that. Its true. The Super NES did that off of the console itself. Good burn
@Super_Nes_Potato
Ай бұрын
No, the snes version of doom used the SFX2 chip.
@arepa13
Ай бұрын
It's a great day everytime I hear that opening theme music
@AntLeonardi01
Ай бұрын
Xenocrisis is so good. I’ve still yet to beat it. Come pretty close though.
@vicentereisdacruz1915
Ай бұрын
Finally was waiting for the console war!!! Thanks guys!!!
@SomeOrangeCat
Ай бұрын
Well, shit! I stand corrected! I thought for sure the Genesis version would win as the original game was made with it in mind.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
And just imagine if the game had actually been made specifically for the SNES from day one and made to properly take advantage of all its capabilities and features fully: Then this SNES version could have had far more and nicer colours, way more transparency effects, up to three more background layers at times, bosses designed to properly fit the screen perfectly, maybe some Mode 7 scaling moments just for the hell of it, Dolby Surround sound support, etc.
@jesusdelmas
Ай бұрын
@@inceptional No sorry, snes uses and extra chip. The homebrew comunity knows it. Snes cant handle this game
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
@@jesusdelmas Grow up.
@jesusdelmas
Ай бұрын
@@inceptional still uses and extra chip
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
@@jesusdelmas Grow up.
@Konuvis
Ай бұрын
8:12 have you ever danced with the devil by the pale moon light? 😉
@AlexvrbX
Ай бұрын
Sound effects (voices) are better on SNES, but music is better on the Genesis - depending on what model board and op-amps you have. It sounds crystal clear on my Model 2 VA4... but many of Model 2's (especially VA 0 and 1.x) aren't nearly as clean if unmodded. Almost all of the Model 1's had pretty good audio. SNES overall is the newer, more refined release. Most if not all of what makes it better could be done on the Genesis, but it's not worth going back and spending CONSIDERABLE time and money when it already has a very competent version. Doom on SNES was not good, and that uses the Super FX GSU-2 enhancement chip. The original 32X port wasn't good either (very hasty port had to be ready by launch) but was still much better due to raw horsepower. But if you want to see what the 32X can do... you have to check out the 32X Resurrection re-port. Also Tomb Raider 32X is quite impressive already, and it's nowhere near optimal yet.
@brandonsclips7741
Ай бұрын
Good episode fellas and I'd love to see more homebrews
@iamclarke4978
Ай бұрын
That Doom comment really hurt LOL
@Super_Nes_Potato
Ай бұрын
The snes doom used the FX2 chip, so it's basically a incorrect reference.
@SomeOrangeCat
Ай бұрын
@@Super_Nes_Potato Sega sad sack.
@Super_Nes_Potato
Ай бұрын
@@SomeOrangeCatNo, I'm a sega cool cat 😺
@SomeOrangeCat
Ай бұрын
@@Super_Nes_Potato Nah. You're just another bitter fanatic whose whole world came crashing down the day Sega announced they were done making consoles.
@Adamtendo_player_1
Ай бұрын
@@Super_Nes_Potato but come on as much as I’m a Sega fan the fact that it couldn’t even run doom natively and needed mushroom add-on to run it phase it all but at the end of the day I think the mega drive could’ve done a better job than the SNES regarding doom with the homebrew Wolfenstein port as proof that it could’ve been done.
@DaleALMono77
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 the alien bit was gold !!
@ThomasWilliams-md9vc
Ай бұрын
In the next episode, Judge Dredd.
@EscalationTV
Ай бұрын
So excited for this Episode. One of my absolute favourite SNES-Games 💪😎
@EuSouRCS
Ай бұрын
Thank God for that!!!
@JoshuaJacobs83
27 күн бұрын
What an emotional rollercoaster that opening was
@mission-toast
Ай бұрын
Disagree. Screen real estate matters, which the SNES is lacking.
@J3D1xKN1GHT
Ай бұрын
Another awesome video guys, you guys remain one of my favorite gaming channels on KZitem l, wish you guys could do more content, but i appreciate what you guys can do. Your videos always make me laugh at loud at one point or another! 😂 keep up tye good work!
@JJB11
Ай бұрын
GREAT FUCKING EPISODE, GUYS!
@ConsoleWars
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial
Ай бұрын
I was wondering why Dan kept talking about this Al guy at TooManyGames. He would go on for hours and then start crying while listening to this weird Chris Cornell dubstep
@Super_Nes_Potato
Ай бұрын
The snes port of doom uses SFX2 chip against the 32X, so why would you even use that as an example here? The genesis version of xenocrisis is running purely on base hardware while the snes version isn't.
@inceptional
Ай бұрын
Grow up.
@Devilhelll
Ай бұрын
tried to seal it using Doom as an example but it backfired lol
@kasjamm
Ай бұрын
@@Super_Nes_Potato He's a very childish SNES fanboy
@mistern316
Ай бұрын
Judge Dredd is next, and we are going to hear Dan say: “I am The Law!” and “ I knew you say that”.
@1234luf
Ай бұрын
Graphics should have been a tie as the genesis and snes version both had noticable pros. Presentation should have been for Sega as the higher fidelity was basically the only thing that mattered. Overall the SNES game is probably better because it was released 5 years later.
@Devilhelll
Ай бұрын
5 years later and it still uses special chips. Something that is not used in the genesis version.
@Devilhelll
Ай бұрын
@@jc_dogen No, one of the producers already said on his Twitter that it was only possible with this quality because he was using the special chip. Yes, the game could have been released without additional chips. But soon there would be a downgrade and the usual snes slowdowns.
@3xperiment8
Ай бұрын
@@jc_dogen Told you 😂
@3xperiment8
Ай бұрын
@@Devilhelll Stop being ridiculous. Super Smash TV proved Snes can run this type of game on normal cartridge.
@DrAcOFoto
Ай бұрын
@@Devilhelll so you would be basically dismissing every single Genesis game on Earth that uses the Z80 as a co-processor. Not to mention 32X or Sega CD games, which can't exist without the Genesis 68000... I never get the silly argument of trying to trick people into believing that the co-processors used in the cartridges are somehow against the 'sanctity of the console', when the SNES in particular was designed from the ground-up to give that extra option to developers. No expensive add-ons that died a little while later were releaed, unlike Sega's sad choices, which hurt its consumer base a LOT. Bitmap Bureau was not going to spend a lot of money rewriting the game when they could just leverage the use of the MSU-1, having the ADDED BONUS of anti-piracy. It's way too obvious, handy, and useful from a commercial perspective.
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