Shaymin-EX was the card that made me understand why hard once per turns need to exist. Really wish Pokemon would use them more!
@2rare2die26
Жыл бұрын
Heck, I used 4 Shaymin EX in my Zoroark GX deck before it got banned. And 4 in my Night March deck. And 4 in Lost March Turns out, before it got banned, Shaymin was arguably the best draw card in the game because of the lack of that hard 1PT clause lol
@bucketslash11
Жыл бұрын
HARD once per turn, as some cards he has showcased have been soft once per turn
@Kuronosa
Жыл бұрын
O.o Chaotic watches Logs?
@victikirby15
Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see you do a video talking about the “Hall of Fame” format. It’s a really interesting format exclusive to the Japanese TCG that uses cards from the Diamond and Pearl expansion onward, and uses a unique banlist that limits cards in a way similar to Yugioh Duel Links, where restricted cards are given a point value, and a deck cannot exceed a certain number of points.
@jakegearhart
Жыл бұрын
1:31 Is meant to be “2-hit KO’d” in case anyone was confused.
@Laura-ns9wx
Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment, thank you
@JustMonikaVT
Жыл бұрын
I remember when Shaymin-EX was underestimated, and considered a bad card, and then how it broke the game instantly afterwards, becoming a 100$ card.
@TheArcv2
Жыл бұрын
Shaymin-EX 3/10 much worse Uxie from Legends Awaken
@maskedfallen1331
Жыл бұрын
I remember pre buying 14 of skymin cause I thought it was gonna be nuts. One of the pokemon cards that I actually made a decent return out.
@deadforever99
Жыл бұрын
@@maskedfallen1331 I remmember there was a guy that did that same thing but with sesimitoad ex. Except instead of 14 he got his hands on over 60 copies of the card. That's what I heard from the players anyways.
@2rare2die26
Жыл бұрын
I could very well be wrong, but I played the game during roaring skies and I'm 99.99% sure that everybody that actually played the game realized how insane shaymin EX was immediately. I'm hardly a tournament player, nor are my friends, but we all KNEW shaymin was gonna be silly good lol.
@2rare2die26
Жыл бұрын
I do think it went from a $30 card to a $60 (regular) or $95 (full art) though. So apparently the player base didn't realize it was a staple 4 of in every deck. I respectfully concede that point
@Astraltophat
Жыл бұрын
my favorite part of this channel is hearing mr logs butcher Pokemon names
@BerserkGorilla
Жыл бұрын
Kledeo ex hit different
@Zoey587
Жыл бұрын
Lachios
@ILiekFishes
11 ай бұрын
metal type
@whatyoulookinfor
7 ай бұрын
@@ILiekFishesthis one is correct in the tcg though
@justkita3890
Жыл бұрын
Masquerain misread as "Masquerina." Someone's got yugioh on the brain.
@sekken4209
Жыл бұрын
18:28 The Yu-Gi-Oh! card names creep even into the Pokémon channel
@xypher5538
Жыл бұрын
I heard it as well IP Masquerena!
@kanrakucheese
Жыл бұрын
There’s actually one banned card left: Blaine’s Quiz Show. This one isn’t that interesting though, since the reason was explicitly given: It has an effect that is language dependent and thus unsuited for multi-lingual events.
@epicness877
Жыл бұрын
I first played competitively during BW era, and I knew Sableye was good, but JEESUS
@dogindagrass
Жыл бұрын
Those last notes about Shaymin Ex reminds me of those Sabledonk and Uxiedonk decks that were around right before black and white and compleately changed the ruleset for the new format
@sandragon13
Жыл бұрын
Very glad I found this channel, this series has demonstrated how cards can be chained together to accomplish specific goals efficiently, or in this case, overwhelmingly so. I would love to see more videos of this type, perhaps focusing on archetypes and what made them successful?
@bananawallpaper
Жыл бұрын
very good write up on sableye. wasnt expecting it to go into such detail. the history of the card is probably the most intresting in the expanded format as it always seemed to be on the brink of being broken but never quite made it
@deathseraph3
Жыл бұрын
Laysheos, masquerina, and calling pigeotto pigeot. Some things never change lol.
@JeffKGaming
Жыл бұрын
You'd think a person with so many followers across multiple channels wouldn't be so sloppy lol
@codahighland
Жыл бұрын
I haven't played in a very, very long time. I fell out of the game in the mid '00s when Yu-Gi-Oh displaced Pokemon League so I couldn't find anyone to play with. The game has changed so much since then that I barely recognize it anymore. On the one hand, the power creep is unbelievable -- Pokemon that would have been massively overpowered back then are being released as uncommons now. Lots of rules have changed, and I don't even know all of them (I didn't know about the first turn attack change until this very video). But on the other hand, cards that I considered staples are somehow now considered too powerful to ever reproduce. I really don't know how to feel about it.
@Joker22593
Жыл бұрын
I surprised nobody played Looker with Oranguru (or at least it isn't mentioned here). It lets you draw three... FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE DECK!
@TheVictor126
Жыл бұрын
people did, but it was either noob bait or used as 1 offs, you are sacrificing your supporter for turn after all, and if you want to loop this strat over and over you need a way to add looker back, so you end up using your supporter for turn to get 2 cards from the discard... which sableye did without using your supporter
@nicolaistuhlmuller8718
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's ultimately just a lot weaker than sableye + time puzzle. Essentially you absolutely need vs seeker to be one of the 3 cards returned with Oranguru simply because you actually need to loop looker. This means Oranguru will always return any 2 cards + vs seeker, and since you'll always use vs seeker right away it will only return you any 2 cards in the end. Which is exactly the same thing that sableye + time puzzle does, just with the difference that you can't play supporter cards. The only way for Oranguru to be better than Sableye + Time Puzzle is by decking yourself out and having two mons with a poképower that lets you draw a card. That way you will always draw 3 cards a turn, and you can choose these 3 cards from your discard pile.
@munchrai6396
Жыл бұрын
Looker also has it's own whistle to search it out so it's not the worst idea even if it's a far cry from puzzle of time
@chaosbass
Жыл бұрын
I can tell he only plays the card game with pronunciations like “Lashios”, “Girafaridge”, and “Masquerina” 😂 Put this is really interesting for someone who only has light experience with the TCG side of Pokemon
@chaosbuster1275
Жыл бұрын
I’d be interested to see cards banned in past metagames. Slowking is especially interesting
@duncancrowley6643
Жыл бұрын
My guy has the worst pronunciation of Pokemon names and attacks, but I do like to hear about Expanded so I watch anyways lol.
@Petsinwinter2
Жыл бұрын
It's a recurring theme with him. He pronounces Yu-Gi-Oh cards wrong all the time, too
@KeoughSchwantiger
Жыл бұрын
Great video visual. Editor really did well
@TwoHeadedFlounder
Жыл бұрын
I remember playing virizion/genesect against toad/puff and losing hard becuase I never could keep an energy in play. One of the moments I questioned if the game was even fun at all.
@munchrai6396
Жыл бұрын
I really do wish Shaymin-EX was banned sooner. The card caused so much collateral damage from cards that could've stayed legal for far longer if only this card was not pushing them to their breaking point.
@sagacious03
Жыл бұрын
Okay analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@modernkiwi6447
Жыл бұрын
I followed this series for a week or so now, it is so satisfying to see the ultimate villain in Shaymin-EX finally getting banned Edit: also holy shit “Laishios EX” is a new one Edit 2: what the fuck do you mean Shaymin EX was never banned, legit the Crystron Halqifibrax of Pokémon TCG
@sferedog5152
Жыл бұрын
It did get banned
@jakegearhart
Жыл бұрын
20:22 It's banned
@justaadhdgamerwesley6244
Жыл бұрын
Ahh junk hunt great times lmao
@bradtolch
Жыл бұрын
Skateboard Jirachi was awesome
@TheVictor126
Жыл бұрын
a few minors mistakes such as poke-body instead of poke power, darkrai one hit koing exs instead of 2 hit koing, team skull grunt discarding only special energies instead of any energy. but it was a good series
@kstanni87
Жыл бұрын
Sableye sure had a lot of powerful cards that it could recycle. It would be very broken in a Lost Box deck alongside it Psychic variant. If the black one was allowed along side the purple, it could recycle Scoop-Up Nets or even Colress's Experiment for long combos.
@Enraptored-
Жыл бұрын
I live to control, and mill, I relish in destroying my opponent’s strategy for an all more satisfactory victory.
@applenaught6768
Жыл бұрын
Here for the why cards are banned 2nd, and how the MoonSpiderLogs pronounces pokemon cards 1st.
@eyeofthetyger8504
Жыл бұрын
I use a rare varient of doll stall that uses florges. Once set up, the game turns into easy mode. And its very easy to set up within the first 2 turns, and it's fun to turn ADP into a free match. The reason not many know about this deck though is because it uses an extremely expensive card called Tropical Beach. So, I don't see it being banned anytime soon.
@TheKrabbster
Жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting video but the rainbow background effect is a bitrate killer, too many colors changing at once kills video compression, it’s probably an effect to avoid using. Also the way you pronounced Latios hurt my soul
@FeartheMalice
Жыл бұрын
Top 10 item cards from the first sets
@koyoyoyo1170
Жыл бұрын
I remember at release people were talking about shaymin as a weaker uxie
@10types
Жыл бұрын
i wonder is this is the channel that will save pokemon. super cool content. keep it up
@kwayke9
Жыл бұрын
Shaymin EX: So busted it spawned hard once per turns and the rule box mechanic. And thank Arceus Set up Uxie isn't legal in Expanded (DP era card, imagine Shaymin EX but no rule box, so hello Life dew, and it draws to 7)
@Chiffonaise
Жыл бұрын
I don't see the correlation though, those 3 things were introduced in different decades. The HOPT condition for Abilities (at the time Poké-Powers) was introduced in 2004. Shaymin-EX itself was released in 2015. The Rule Box keyword was introduced in 2021.
@kwayke9
Жыл бұрын
@@Chiffonaise 2004? Oops, I thought this was way later
@Chiffonaise
Жыл бұрын
@@kwayke9 EX Hidden Legends introduced the condition (it could be earlier, but this is afaik). In that set, it shows up on Bellossom, Lanturn and the 4 Castform forms. The most famous Pokémon with a HOPT Poké Power is probably Pidgeot RG 10 with Quick Search. It has a generic search for 1 card effect. edit: tbh I get what you mean by Rule Box, it may have been at least partially due to Shaymin-EX or in consideration of Expanded in general. Though they didn't introduce it to "fix" Scoop Up Net or Shaymin-EX, they kinda just left it banned.
@akiarakou908
Жыл бұрын
Maybe Scoop Up Net will also be banned in the future since it is able to scoop up powerful Pokemon-ex in SV series.🤣
@chaoscapricorn13
Жыл бұрын
I remember my sableye deck :*( it was so much fun
@EntroVirical_Engima
Жыл бұрын
Damn, Shaymin EX was the first EX I got, and I thought it was terrible (I was at playground level battling back then)
@joaov2374
Жыл бұрын
Fuck, now i want to play that sableye deck. Will never be able to
@marxistharpy
Жыл бұрын
I remember back when Junk Hunt Sableye and Garbotoxin were everywhere, I’d run three copies of Tool Scrapper. Couldn’t stand that deck
@IndellableHatesHandles
Жыл бұрын
Had no clue that Darkrai card was good to play. I have the exact one.
@josecarloszapataechaiz5682
Жыл бұрын
❤ more expanded love and vids please
@davidhermosillo4669
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@eyeofthetyger8504
Жыл бұрын
Side note, but I think double dragon or giratina and garchomp ttgx will be banned soon because of lugia. Using wally to evolve lugia, then placing two archeops on the bench which could accelerate all the needed energy for tinachomp gx move at max power makes for a super consistent donk deck.
@bulbibulbo3173
Жыл бұрын
Wally deserve the ban .
@seantaft3853
Жыл бұрын
That combo can be done faster without the Lugia VSTAR trick or Wally. Still, the combo is evil; I'd argue DDE is the card to ban as it's the enabler right now.
@laxprincelang0152
7 ай бұрын
Why didn’t sableye users just use Pokémon ranger to combat seizmatoad???
@ExcuseZero
Жыл бұрын
Right in the youth, ouch... But no disagreements here
@bigbang8739
Жыл бұрын
I remember I had the sabelye
@bucketslash11
Жыл бұрын
19:20 lat-e-os
@caseywilson4488
Жыл бұрын
How did you pronounce Latios?????
@AeroDragon2
Жыл бұрын
Shaymin EX was a mistake, straight up it was a mistake
@jaykorner1391
Жыл бұрын
Is it not LAH-TEE-OH-SEH? I’ve never heard LAY-SHEE-OH-SHHS
@thomashansen7007
Жыл бұрын
Great content. One thing though: You mispronounce FAR too many pokemon's names. Masquerina? Lasheeos? EDIT: Dendenne?!!!
@kisapniaq
Жыл бұрын
I’ll note, the biggest issue with the recovery is it getting back more than one card, just allowing you to reuse and snowball momentum. Cards like Munchlax don’t see the same play for that reason Now Shaymin-EX, haha, I miss Shaymin. And I sincerely dislike it being banned, as for it is a liability, but I wish there were limitations applied. If we banned Scoop Up Net, it would be much less a problem, albeit maybe ban Dialga VStar if we do unban shaymin. Worst case I’d at least prefer a limited list for things like Shaymin, Lusamine, ICA and so on. But oh well Latios [la-tee-OSE] EX also wasn’t so much a problem on ladder when Pheramosa existed, but yeah they both sucked to be against
@lilBigBagel
Жыл бұрын
lovin it
@DiabloTommaso
Жыл бұрын
Am I drunk or the shiny cards video vanished?
@thedexlogsdexlogs
Жыл бұрын
It'll be back up shortly. I have to edit out some parts
@DiabloTommaso
Жыл бұрын
@@thedexlogsdexlogs ok so I m not drunk xD man I just love your channels this one in particular since i know nothing
@idontthink
Жыл бұрын
Did you just call it "Den-denne"?
@torteragrotel3897
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, but if thats how you say Girafarig try sating its new evolution :DDDDDDDDDDDDD
@lovepooky
Жыл бұрын
Your pronunciation of pokemon names is dreadful ahaha. Its clear you're a fan of the interactions, not the underlying franchise, which is also valid.
@farronssb
Жыл бұрын
this video has been flagged for misinformation
@luckilyduckily
Жыл бұрын
a pokemon channel is just what you needed for more tortuous pronunciations huh lmao
@superbaas8822
Жыл бұрын
Have you considered starting your own channel and presenting things with the peoper pronunciations? Oh wait, that might involve getting off your ass and putting in some work.
@glitchedoom
Жыл бұрын
"Layshios" is killing me.
@TopPigg
Жыл бұрын
I love your content but please try to Google a pronunciation of important words like card names. I'm not trying to throw shade, it's just jarring to be immersed in the history of the game only for a name to be so wrong it sounds like the narrator has never played Pokémon before. Other than that everything is amazing
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