Roots of the Rivalry: De Klassieker (Ajax vs Feyenoord): kzitem.info/news/bejne/uoaFlmyQmHSnapw
@marquinhos8776
11 ай бұрын
Actually, the biggest rivalry in the Netherlands is PSV Eindhoven vs. Ajax Amsterdam.
@yabdifootballchallenges7981
11 ай бұрын
no, it's not PSV Eindhoven are from the south while Ajax is from Amsterdam. Feyenoord Rotterdam is from around the same area as Ajax Amsterdam, but Amsterdam and Rotterdam have completely different cultures, that's why they're the biggest rivals in The Netherlands@@marquinhos8776
@mislavkonjik2827
9 ай бұрын
@@marquinhos8776 next year, when the new format of the Champions League starts, the prize money will be much higher than before. it is very likely that Feyenoord as the runner-up and PSV as the champion will play in that Champions League, while Ajax will play in the Europa League or the Conference League next season, which will not be nearly as financially strong as the Champions League. I think that because of this, PSV and Feyenoord will be financially much more powerful than Ajax and that is why Ajax is now waiting for a long period without a trophy. Do you agree with me?
@gravy3858
11 ай бұрын
No joke I was thinking to myself “damn I’m bored at work I want some football content.” I refresh, see this at the top, and celebrated. Thank ya Adrian
@RabonaTV
11 ай бұрын
Here to help.👊
@SmexyRexy
11 ай бұрын
Same 😂
@PapiMento_Ajax
11 ай бұрын
Great vid again Adrian. Thanks for having me on. !! Small correction: Gerrie Hamstra was youth sporting director.
@sssf55
11 ай бұрын
If you follow Ajax closely, you'd notice that after 2015 there were already problems and the club wasn't performing at the highest level. The arrival of Ten Hag completely transformed us into an elite team again and the minute he has left, we regressed significantly. Even the elite players we produced in recent times were a result of the coaching of Ten Hag and his team. We need to focus on finding the next prodigal manager.
@hr-g4640
11 ай бұрын
the last season with Ten Hag wasn't good either, at least they won the league tho
@sssf55
11 ай бұрын
@@hr-g4640 I mean we sold a lot of our good players and he still rebuilt the team and won the league in the same season using a different system. I'm not sure what more you'd want?
@kirandemaaker3538
11 ай бұрын
@@hr-g4640first in champions league group?
@taliamason7986
11 ай бұрын
Also the arrival of Marc Overmars as the Director of Football who recruited some of the best outstanding young talent since the Louis Van Gaal era in the 90's.
@sssf55
11 ай бұрын
@@taliamason7986 Yea but he already mentions this as the main point in the video. I'm bringing up the Ten hag thing because its important and Adrian doesn't touch on it. I think he ignores this point because he hates United for some reason.
@hipryce273
11 ай бұрын
What's also interesting is how they (over)spent over a 100M on relatively unknown players, who pretty much all said they "couldn't believe" that a club like Ajax was interested. I remember seeing their lineup the first game of the season and only knowing like 3-4 players. Most of these players are already being labeled as huge flops
@vizuz
11 ай бұрын
It's early day calling them flops. Although from what I've seen Akpom doesn't look like an Ajax player at all. But to be fair, neither did Seb Haller, and he turned out alright.
@Rifi77
11 ай бұрын
@@vizuzHaller was on fire at Utrecht and Frankfurt, but West Ham was a mismatch. He at least had proven himself on the highest level. Akpom never scored more then 10 goals his entire career until last season. And that was in the Championship
@KoosKansloos1908
11 ай бұрын
This is the greatest thing I’ve never dreamed of experiencing it’s so wonderful btw Feyenoord Rotterdam fan
@fassie79
11 ай бұрын
me too LOL! :-)
@dnmd5222
11 ай бұрын
Ajax haunts your dreams it seems
@KoosKansloos1908
11 ай бұрын
@@dnmd5222 no they disgust me
@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
11 ай бұрын
That is honestly pretty childish, you should want your own team to improve not the rivals to fall off.
@KoosKansloos1908
11 ай бұрын
@@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten stfu we are better than we ever were before and the fall of ajax makes it even more fun
@BeWe1510
11 ай бұрын
There is also a potential scandal brewing around Mislintat and the transfer of Sosa from Stuttgart. Apparently Sosas agency holds a 3% share in an analytics company by Mislintat and this conflict of interest was not declared. I don’t know what conduct is normal in the football business but tbh I don’t think that this sounds that bad, however it might still be relevant
@GothPaoki
11 ай бұрын
Yea inside rules at ajax forbid that but Ajax knew it for a long time and they didn't do anything for it so i don't think it's that relevant. It was his actions before the feyenoord game that sealed his fate.
@carlosrodriquezofficial
11 ай бұрын
I follow Ajax closely and I must say...this is getting really, really awful right now. We're currently 14th in the league and with the upcoming fixtures including AZ, Utrecht (Away) (traditional tough games), and PSV away (almost a certain loss last couple of seasons) coupled with AEK Away, and playing the current Brighton 2 times (which may well become 2 absolute beatings, further diminishing the already low morale) I would not be surprised if we're in the relegation zone a few weeks from now... Truly horrifying stuff going on at the club atm
@SukmaPancaroba
11 ай бұрын
well, my club's doing crap too bro... I feel you 😢
@lucarasic8001
11 ай бұрын
@@SukmaPancarobawhat team is it
@mislavkonjik2827
9 ай бұрын
@@SukmaPancaroba next year, when the new format of the Champions League starts, the prize money will be much higher than before. it is very likely that Feyenoord as the runner-up and PSV as the champion will play in that Champions League, while Ajax will play in the Europa League or the Conference League next season, which will not be nearly as financially strong as the Champions League. I think that because of this, PSV and Feyenoord will be financially much more powerful than Ajax and that is why Ajax is now waiting for a long period without a trophy. Do you agree with me?
@menno7349
11 ай бұрын
As an Ajax fan, I think that PapiMento guy worded all of it really well. One thing to add on the ending though: a Van Gaal return seems very unlikely. The man is unfortunately struggling with his health, and was quoted admitting he can't even go to the bathroom by himself now. I think it would be too much and totally unfair to ask him, even though he would otherwise be so well suited. We need someone for the longer term really, as the problems are currently at every level. For example: this video talks about the issues from the top down, but there's also issues from the bottom up. Name me the last big attacking talent the Ajax academy has produced. You probably can't, because we haven't produced any for many a year now. The foundation of the club in it's famed youth academy is also seriously failing to produce and consistently losing to rivals at all age groups. We're a heavily offensive team, yet in the past years only some defensively minded players are produced. We need ex players who understand and want to help the club at so many levels. Yet we've been scaring those off and also getting rid of them for weird reasons lately. Literally everything at the club currently is broken, this Ajax just isn't Ajax in any way.
@GothPaoki
11 ай бұрын
I will name you the big attacking talent of Ajax. Their fans. They seem to be descendants of Genghis khan with how they behave.
@menno7349
11 ай бұрын
@@GothPaokiPlease don't generalize. I was at the game in the stadium, many of us including myself left calmly without any issues at all. Unfortunately clubs have some dumb hooligan groups too. A problem many clubs in the Netherlands have currently. Problem group of society shows itself in bad times. For example when Feyenoord sucked a few years ago, their supporters stormed their club. Now Ajax are in bad weather and unfortunately we're shown some of our fanbase are equally dumb.
@GothPaoki
11 ай бұрын
@@menno7349 yeah I'm talking about the hools not the 99 percent of fans but this 1 percent of fans in the Netherlands in general is worse than others 1 percent of hools of other countries. And it's not only about ajax either. Feyenoord fans rampaging through Rome in 15, Eindhoven fans mocking beggars in Spain. All hools are idiots but the volume in which this 1 percent is causing troubles is evidently much more frequent if we also take into account their outside of the country achievements And in my opinion as someone who's lived in Leiden for more than 15 years is that the Dutch as most northern Europeans are quite snobbish in that issue and they tend to ignore it because of a false sense of superiority when it comes to education. And by Dutch I'm talking about the state itself their attitude is in front of the problem is " no bro shit ain't happening here we're not Balkans" you can't fix a problem by ignoring it.
@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297
11 ай бұрын
You are overloading your arguments now man, French fans are worse than ours , Greek and Italian fans of the bad clubs (yes Paok , The Romas etc ) are just as bad Yes we have a problem, but many other countries do . Unless your German fan , or Spanish Portuguese, only counties I'd rate quite good
@MichaelBoogerd
11 ай бұрын
Even if they did produce a striker - then they moved on (Danilo?), because the trend since maybe even Ibrahimovic is to have a big central striker from abroad. Huntelaar doesnt fit your criteria with his development at PSV and breakthrough at Heerenveen. Brobbey is now that guy, but probably not good enough. On the flipside, how many wingers have they produced recently. I'm curious to see Axel van Dongen if he will make it.
@enriqueramirez2554
11 ай бұрын
Damn adrian you’re pumping out a lot of videos! It’s great to have you back, i’ve missed your videos. Wish you the best!
@BrendanP
11 ай бұрын
Amazing video and informative! I had no clue Ajax were in this much disarray. It'll be fascinating to see where they go from here.
@rolandbrouwer
11 ай бұрын
'With diamond after diamond coming from their academy' * Shows pic of Frenkie de Jong who was 18 when he signed for Ajax after he went through the Willem II academy *
@12thMandalorian
11 ай бұрын
Worryingly both Overmars and Van Der Sar suffered serious health issues recently reports of a stroke and a brain bleed, the stress both must have been under was awful 😔
@Caoimhin1909
11 ай бұрын
We Talk Ajax genuinely is a very decent podcast. I don't even like Ajax and love to hear about the turmoil, but they explain it very well, and are one of few to do so in English.
@Aoi_Fans
11 ай бұрын
So I'm an Aberdeen fan and I don't follow Dutch football but I'm not the slightest bit surprised that Ajax are crap this year. Last season we needed a backup keeper in January and Ajax very kindly gave us the use of one of their lads. He played 4 games and was fine, but our main goalie was better. Ajax main keeper (Player 8/9 games) this year is the ex second choice goalie at Aberdeen. Something must be wrong with your scouting + buying network for this to happen at such a big club.
@thomasvrielink299
11 ай бұрын
What went wrong is both Rulli and Pasveer got injured, Gorter is really just meant to be our 3rd choice goalkeeper. Not denying something is seriously wrong with our scouting and buying network, but Gorter playing is simply due to bad luck.
@menno7349
11 ай бұрын
While there are 100% issues with the scouting, Jay Gorter is not supposed to be our 1st choice at all. There were talks of him being sold, when the other options were injured. The only other option just joined 1 day before the injury to Rulli happened, so they chose Gorter. Very unlikely to stay there long term.
@Aoi_Fans
11 ай бұрын
@@thomasvrielink299 Fair enough, didn't know that. Like I said, I don't follow Dutch football
@nengelen
11 ай бұрын
Kudos to thomasvrielink there, injuries are a factor too. Current keeper was supposed to be loaned out, but in the first game a long injury for Rulli and the new German keeper was new at the club for like 2 days, so Gorter got a chance. A perfect storm of absolute shit atm on every level. Why the papimento guy is in the video is pretending to talk for all ajax-fans or is used as a source of knowledge is beyond me too to be honest. Very little actual insights there, just a talking punter promoting his own social media stuff. Thanks for the video though 👍
@MichaelBoogerd
11 ай бұрын
Pasveer and Rulli are injured.
@cinderluna
11 ай бұрын
as a lifelong fan of Ajax, how its going currently is completely and utterly heartbreaking nothing in football hurts worse than seeing the club you love and always have loved slip into something you dont recognize anymore Ajax isnt Ajax anymore...
@sit-insforsithis1568
11 ай бұрын
We moeten overmars terughalen dat was de spil achter t succes imo
@Clarkey868
11 ай бұрын
Great stuff adrian, you have a fan in trinidad 🇹🇹 for sure 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@RabonaTV
11 ай бұрын
Thank you bro!
@DJZombieChipmunk
11 ай бұрын
adriano from an ajax fan this is the harshest time weve faced so far, but i know we gonna get back on top with things, if succes is temporary then also is failure
@fassie79
11 ай бұрын
The great fall has only just started. No ship can be steered without a captain.
@CRValtierra
11 ай бұрын
Bro, Santiago Gimenez made Ajax rage quit.
@BlaugranaEverything
11 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff as per usual, coincidentally, I was listening to the Athletic podcast on my way to work today and in addition to Sven's dismissal Ajax Supervisory Board Chair Pier Eringa has resigned. This probably happened after Papi's conversation with Adrian otherwise it would have come up in the video. Also, according to one of the guests on earlier mentioned podcast, a few of the other reasons why Sven lost his job were that he once went into the lockeroom post match and told players that Steijn was kinda/sorta about to be sacked (behind Steijns back) also Sven was under an external investigation for 'conflicts of interest in transfers', that plus the poor job he did in recruiting probably amounted to the straw that broke the camel's back. So just an FYI for some of the stuff that happened after Adrian recorded this as well as some "grape vine" kinda stuff.
@AJdR3
11 ай бұрын
Letting a match get abandoned on purpose is so so weak. Your true support is shown on moments things get rough. They have big mouths when on top, but crybabies when losing.
@Enerspook
11 ай бұрын
For English speaking football fans, this is a great video documenting the current status of the club. Not going to lie, but as a Feyenoord supporter, this is one of the most beautiful trainwrecks I’ve ever seen. Sadly, I have to admit that in the past thirty years it was mostly turmoil at Feyenoord; financial crisis, not playing in European competitions, some “fans” doing dumb stuff abroad in Nancy, Rome or what not. And what happened next, Ajax was almost always on top, which got increasingly frustrating over the years. However, ever since last season, they are slipping and it’s bizarre to see how quickly they are tumbling. We benefit more from a stronger Ajax, but again, seeing them like this… it does put a smile on my face.
@joemamma8927
11 ай бұрын
haha, understandable mate, but i feel it would be more satisfying if you could beat them at there best, it would mean more no?
@oldbordergeek
11 ай бұрын
@@joemamma8927 hes a feyenoord fan so he really doesnt look at the game
@joemamma8927
11 ай бұрын
@@oldbordergeek damn, why the hate for feyenoord fans? You support ajax?
@Enerspook
11 ай бұрын
@@joemamma8927 this is how they behave when things aren’t going their way. Shame really. And sure, that’s what I meant that a stronger Ajax is more beneficial, but getting humble for a while is not a bad turn of events for the club and their fans.
@Midtable1881
11 ай бұрын
I’ve seen this with various big and historic clubs over Europe.
@peterfields4801
11 ай бұрын
My favourite team since as an unknown club here in the UK they thrashed Liverpool & caused quite a stir,some great teams & great players over the years. I have watched with bewilderment in recent times where so many excellent players left,I thought 3rd place last season was an amazing achievement under the circumstances,watched with dismay since as even more players left. Those heady days of the Champions League Semi Final seems a long way away,how could things be allowed to change so much so quickly?
@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297
11 ай бұрын
I love your response, and some individual english fans I can still stomach but your premier league is killing everyone else in europe my man . That's what's really happening .and bow the Saudi are even directly involved, oh the joy of petrodollars
@peterfields4801
11 ай бұрын
England won the World Cup in 1966 & as a football mad teen I remember it so well,we were promised that English football would go from strength to strength as a result,instead by the end of the decade I was becoming disolusioned with football,money had started to take over,yes the difference was noticeable that long ago,teams were no longer playing to win but playing not to lose,not good,Don Revie the England manager held team talks where football wasn't mentioned,just how much money he could make for them ,even seasoned players hated it. I rarely watch live football these days,the Premier League leaves me cold,Eredivisie isn't shown anywhere on TV(we used to get an excellent round up show with all the weeks matches being shown),I am pretty much reduced to highlights on KZitem. If it is any consolation the Premier League has had a bad effect on the lower leagues here in the UK with many clubs struggling,my own home town team were way ahead of the times,they went bust back in the 1960's which is why I was looking for somebody to follow when Ajax came to my notice. I smiled at the comment in one video that they needed to trim the wage bill as they were not in the Champions League,sorry but if they don't pay the money it will be a long time before they are back in the Champions League again sadly! @@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297
@balddudey321
11 ай бұрын
Great video Adrian. I hope you can make a video about what's happening to Lyon soon!
@GothPaoki
11 ай бұрын
As someone who's being at the Netherlands for more than 15+ years I'll say Dutch football as a whole has always been tumultuous to say the least. Ajax feyenoord specifically has always smelled trouble outside the stadium with lots of violence on the streets and the government even issuing restrictions on fans movement from town to town. And as great as Netherlands is as a country I have the worst opinion about Dutch fans. There's this largely superficial and wrong impression that northern Europeans are somehow more civilized than the southerns because their countries are financially more stable etc which couldn't be more wrong. And it's quite clear over the years that shit is out of control. I do remember a lot of controversy inside the country as well as outside of it. I was stunned when ajax fans were chanting anti Jewish chants in Ajax Tottenham game ( mind you ajax has a Jewish background and Israeli flags are very common in their stadium) i could go even more back with them celebrating the twente fireworks factory disaster in which several people died. And ofc not just Ajax fans. There's been examples of feyenoord fans vandalizing the city of Rome in 15 and pissing or destroying monuments or Eindhoven fans mocking beggars in spain and documenting their actions. If there's one country where the level of education does not reflect on it's fans it's the Netherlands.
@garyanderton
11 ай бұрын
Not Dutch, but from an outsider perspective Dutch people are really well behaved. The football fans on the other hand may be different, but in general hooligans haven't exactly been known as Mensa members. Just look up the video from last season and English fans causing disturbances in Barcelona.
@davinnicode
11 ай бұрын
I am close friends with a diehard Schalke fan and he seemed to be fascinated by the Feyenoord Ultra scene. He showed me many videos and told me stories that weren’t so friendly to say the least 😅. However, I’ve met countless Dutch football fans at German league games in Germany and they were well behaved. Nothing to complain about. Same goes from my experience visiting the Netherlands in general.
@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297
11 ай бұрын
You make some decent points there (Paoki, Greek I take it ?) There is a definite disconnect between the wealth Dutch society still had until now and how the football fans behave I'm an AZ fan , but I do want to argue that some of the worst European clubs, fanwise , recently visited my club, and other Durch team , and some of them seem to come to us specifically to cause more trouble than they do elsewhere West Ham and Legia warsxhau for example have horrible reputations in their own right and came to cause riots and then whine about it AS Roma versus Feyenoord or the upcoming Lazio clash, roman fans are no Angel's, again , bad reps in their own right French football is , as their society , very very violent more so than Dutch , but somehow still flies below the radar in international news about it Legia warschau could cause a real mess for our away game I suppose , we will see in the winter
@sit-insforsithis1568
11 ай бұрын
@@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297jullie vielen de west ham mensen aan toch ?
@BiggieTrismegistus
11 ай бұрын
It's so weird to me that the US is considered more violent than Europe but in the US violence related to sports is so much less common. Even for college sports, which are more "tribal" than pro sports, fans of each team mingle inside and outside the stadium with little trouble. There might be some words exchanged but it's usually lighthearted.
@Micfri300
11 ай бұрын
I feel like Eusebio di francesco would have been heaven for ajax
@erinadeola8387
11 ай бұрын
Kjetil Knutsen would've been good
@hugoumero9723
11 ай бұрын
@@erinadeola8387 well Knutsen going to ajax is no going to happen
@Micfri300
11 ай бұрын
@david_yordanov got to semi final with roma. Sassuolo europa league and came 7th
@Micfri300
11 ай бұрын
@@david_yordanov and currently with frosinone newly promoted already has 9 points
@Micfri300
11 ай бұрын
@erinadeola8387 potentially however bodo glint to ajax is a huge step
@BrianStorm742
11 ай бұрын
As a Dutchie, this situation is both awful and entertaining. Based on their 2018/19 season, Ajax seemed confident they would become the Dutch Bayern Munich. Turns out the foundation of that success was weak enough to be toppled by a few nude pictures. PSV and Feyenoord FAR outclass Ajax at this moment. Parity has been restored. The Netherlands has 3 top clubs, and that will remain the status quo.
@MichaelBoogerd
11 ай бұрын
Based on this seasons form (and the failure of the rebuild) its clear Netherlands have 3 top clubs, and as an Ajax fan its pretty painful to say those are PSV, Feijenoord and AZ.
@lesliegrace8360
11 ай бұрын
Don't worry about a thing 'Cause every little thing gonna be alright 🎶🎵
@ghostninja0105
11 ай бұрын
As a feyenoord fan, it fills me with joy to see them like this.
@Potjandorie
11 ай бұрын
je moeder
@dnmd5222
11 ай бұрын
Tokkie
@llbuitre
11 ай бұрын
Ajax hired Van Gaal as adviser. He will fix everything.
@RIKUdrano
11 ай бұрын
great video once again! love the stuff
@sanjogkarki
11 ай бұрын
I have one question and i am genuinely confused. Clubs from the Netherlands and Portugal usually earn a lot by selling players. Where does that money go? They relatively have a low salary for players and cost less to run. I always think where the money goes whenever they sell players usually to big clubs from PL.
@johnbakker4828
11 ай бұрын
Actually, the last 5 years or so Ajax has upped their player's wages dramatically in an effort to attract players like Tadic and Blind, who otherwise wouldn't have come back to the Eredivisie from the Premier League, and to make sure they wouldn't lose players immediately after one good season, like what usually happened in the past. Of course when clubs like Barcelona and Juventus were ready to spend 75M+ on players like Frenkie de Jong and Matthijs de Ligt, offering them anual salaries of 10M+, you're gonna lose them, but they could now hold on longer to players like Ziyech and Van de Beek, who instead of going to clubs like AS Roma, Everton or Sevilla didn't see those kind of clubs as such a huge step up as they used to be in the past. Ajax then also started spending more on incoming transfers, not all of which were huge successes, although they profited or didn't lose much on most of them, be it by a smaller margin than was hoped or expected in many cases. You also have to remember that TV money for Eredivisie clubs is negligeble in comparison to the big leagues, especially the Premier League. A club like Luton Town gets more TV money than the whole Eredivisie combined, and although Ajax is the biggest attraction and they do get a bigger slice of the pie, it is still relatively evenly shared amongst all Dutch clubs. Another major factor is that due to Dutch laws, football clubs can't go racking up debts in a effort to improve or sustain a certain level, like is possible in other European countries. In the past clubs have been liquidated for being a few million or even a few hundreds of thousands of Euros in debt, while clubs like Barcelona can go half a billion into debt and still sign players. This means that money has to be set aside and managed in different ways than some other clubs would. The only way for Ajax to sustain the finances they have had over the past seasons, is to qualify for the Champions League every year, finishing at least third in the group to guarantee European football after the winter break, AND sell players for over 50M at the end of the year. By now there are no players left in the squad who represent those kinds of market values, and missing out on Champions League football and all the money that comes with it means that some bleak years might be ahead for Ajax.
@joshdinsmore494
11 ай бұрын
Great vid mate I have been wondering what's been happening at Ajax
@Maj1794
11 ай бұрын
Sad to see an historically well respected club fall apart
@ezraezra2928
11 ай бұрын
This season is so weird. Despite it's only 3 months from the beginning of 23/24 season, many big European clubs were in a terrible shape such as Chelsea, Manchester United, Ajax, Lyon, and Roma. Even Barcelona could be listed here if they found guilty of bribery scandal and possible bankruptcy.
@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297
11 ай бұрын
I would argue , as a fan of AZ even, that Ajax is a (much) bigger club than the others you named there Kids these days dont seem to take historical impact , the whole cabinet of cups, world class players and great coaches into account it seems After Real Madrid , Aiax was basically the first super club in Europe, of the others clubs you name the english ones only caught up because of the horrific premier league era and all the foreign oil money in it that is ruining football (Altough Man U was a fine club pre money era it had some character then st least ) Ajax always had to do without Arab oil money , or russian sand american gold ,and I won't even mention the budget my club AZ has to make due with playing against West Ham or Aston Villa upcoming Ajax won the champions league five times , of which the 5th was never given back after the Juventus team of 1997 was caught bring heavy doping , epo users just like 1992 Marseille Dutch clubs still have won 6 EC1 which is , think about that, more than France , Portugal and the rest of Euro sub top combined On low budgets and most those cups were won with 80 percent Dutch players Premier league is killing european football , Arabian money is disaster
@guswilliams9603
11 ай бұрын
Yes, the unsustainable nature of modern football is starting to wear down the finances and resources of these organizations. It’s a race to see who can spend the most every single offseason, with rosters for clubs looking entirely different season-to-season. No wonder a club even as big as Barcelona is on the verge of bankruptcy. Football is becoming a game of haves and have-nots, now more than ever. It’s hardly worth watching Bundesliga when you know Bayern will win, or La Liga when you know Real or Barca will win EVERY TIME. It’s not the working class game anymore.
@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297
11 ай бұрын
Barcelona, a first Ajax spinoff, that really became it's own style club after a few decades , had a really , genuinely nice period , but you are right on the money here , pun intended They are a poster child of how oil money eventually messed everything up, it collapses the whole pyramid Premier league , Arab oil money , and some billionaire investors are killing European football Only way out is mandatory German system of clubs 51 percent owned by fans , a ban on Arabian , Russian and American money , and , sorry to say , a brexit of premier league , European club football needs to ditch the elephant in the room
@R.Mousasi
11 ай бұрын
It's been coming a long time. Scouting has not been working, scouts were even refusing to talk to each other. For YEARS. . Head of scouting left this summer. Head of youth left this summer. CEO left this summer. Head of the board left aswell. Further down in the organization it has been a mess for a longer time. Ten Hag and Overmars were quality. But there was nothing behind it. We relied on them 2 to make it work. Recruiting and youth development are the most important thing. And our recruitment for coaches and players was to rely on good relationships with agents and quality of Ten Hag and Overmars. Without an clear strategy. When they left there was nothing.
@CharlesOffdensen
11 ай бұрын
Alfred Schreuder was the head coach of Hoffenheim too. And of Twente before that.
@cinderluna
11 ай бұрын
as much as I'd LOVE to see Louis coming in and sweeping the club and making sure Ajax is Ajax again, it wouldnt feel right placing that kind of pressure on a man as ill as he is. maybe itd be cool to have him sit down with Steijn and talk to him about football and coaching, fulfilling the role of an assistant or adviser. I just would love to see a real Ajax legend live Louis coming back. the club is barely Ajax anymore
@TenkabitoShien
11 ай бұрын
1 thing not mentioned in this video is that sven mislintat the ex sporting director is under investigation for possible conflict of interest in some of the transfers he has made. He owns a scouting agency and a agent is a minor investor in the company, a few players he has bought in switched from agents in the last day yes the same agent with the share in mislintats business. And because of this he is under investigation and later he left due to the reason ajax given. But the investigation is still very much on
@A_Dem_On
11 ай бұрын
Also, he was not that great at Arsenal so not really sure how he "made his name" at arsenal. He signed Aubameyang and Leno that have done well, other than that, all duds. (Mhkitaryan, Mavropanos, Sokratis, Torreira, Guendouzi and Lichtsteiner)
@danimalplanet18
11 ай бұрын
The problem traces back to 2010: every time Ajax focusses too little on its core values (attacking football, alumni of the club, academy players) and rely too much on people from the outside (many incoming transfers, external coach, external director of football) it always goes wrong in Amsterdam. Back in 2010, Johan Cruijff was still there to correct the course of the club by emphasizing the need of having people with Football- and Ajax-DNA in the key positions of the organization. Ajax recovered in a matter of six years and then had six very solid years internationally. It went wrong when the majority of these key people started falling away: Wim Jonk in late 2015, Dennis Bergkamp in late 2017, Marc Overmars in early 2022 and Edwin van der Sar this summer. The solution is simple, the club needs true Ajax-people with some football legacy in their organization. Not the oldies, let the generation of the 1990s try: John van t Schip, Aron Winter, return of Winston Bogarde, those kind of people.
@MRW024
11 ай бұрын
May thee be in the mud for a long time and suffer greatly. - Feyenoordians 19:08
@BrianStorm742
11 ай бұрын
PSV as well. We're the top 2 now.
@colouredIncognito
11 ай бұрын
You're also ignoring how Ajax their expenditure (mainly on amortization and wages) needed CL football every year to get funded, which they missed out on, leaving a financial gap
@zapre2284
9 ай бұрын
This sounds like what being an Everton fan has been like since the early 1990s
@frankdehaan3980
11 ай бұрын
I'm from The Netherlands and i can tell you that all non Ajax supporters have their popcorn and are enjoying this to the fullest 😂 Time to tone their ego's down a notch! On the real though, i do hope their problems are fixed soon, it would be a big blow for our already useless competition if Ajax won't claw back next season, this one is wasted already. So much money evaporated on players we've never heard off. Bad trainers after ten Hag left, no idea what Steijn is doing there.. like wtf! And EVERYBODY from the board of directors should be kicked out, today! They made this mess and they should leave. Already 1 guy left by himself, for Ajax i hope the rest will take his lead (but i doubt it). There are no ex footballers on that board as far as i know, atleast nobody that knows how to run a football club or knows about the technical side of football. If they get kicked somehow, and appoint some good people (van Praag will come back to the club which is good) then next season we will see a decent Ajax again in our league. For now, i ran out of popcorn, gonna get some more 😂
@pimma
11 ай бұрын
No mention of Sven’s potential transfer scandal? Pretty sure that was the biggest reason for their parting
@lovxiv
11 ай бұрын
Damn back to back videos 😮💨
@wojtek1765
11 ай бұрын
I didn’t do hope they bounce back on the huge fan of Ajax. I just feel a bit bad for them when they have to keep selling their players. Yes I know they’ve got a amazing Academy and players all, always want to expand their horizons in play for the top six It’s just a shame it dampen success in the European front and all
@frontrowviews
11 ай бұрын
If you’re an Ajax successsupporter just like the rest of them, you can always change to AZ alkmaar from the same region of the Netherlands who are actually fighting for the title
@diegoboutkan718
11 ай бұрын
As a feyenoord fan this is realy funny to see😂
@fassie79
11 ай бұрын
Long may it continue! 😄
@dnmd5222
11 ай бұрын
Probably cus feyenoord took 17 years to recover.. ajax will be back withing a few seasons as always
@diegoboutkan718
11 ай бұрын
@@dnmd5222 salty ajax fans as always, so funny go storm ur stadium lol
@dnmd5222
11 ай бұрын
@@diegoboutkan718 aahh typical feyenoord fan crying aboit ajax as always.. Go trash some monuments in rome
@diegoboutkan718
11 ай бұрын
@@dnmd5222 hahahah lol the salt continues, go throw some flares because you get fucked to hard😂😂
@samallardyce2522
11 ай бұрын
its a normal cycle for ajax. in few years time, they will play with potential world class youngsters, do well in champion league, sell them for hundreds of million, become worst. repeat.
@garyanderton
11 ай бұрын
Southampton, Leeds and Leicester are all proof that strategy can backfire.
@r3zaful
11 ай бұрын
@@garyandertonwhat else they can do? Money talk
@dennishendrikx3228
11 ай бұрын
You can't have succes every year, but the fans really showed their real faces. They had the biggest mouth, past 5 years. They would let the first team play in the Champions League, and the second in the Dutch league. After 5 games its sabotage with fireworks, and breaking the front door. And not for the first time. Biggest club, smallest fans.
@JamailvanWestering
11 ай бұрын
Yeah Van Der Sar wasn’t really well liked. Both Seedorf and Davids had applied at Ajax but never heard anything from him (be it in the youth academy or more on the board side of things, I still think would have been great and better replacement for Overmars) Winston Bogarde on a Dutch football talkshow called Rondo had told the panel, when he came in to help train youth defenders. That he had a conversation with Van Der Sar about possible promotion, according to him van der Sar burst out laughing and then said: there’s no opportunity. I think like around December that year ETH approached him to join the staff. Michael Reiziger who was gunning for the job (he made the reserve squad champions) both after ETH left and Schreuder got axed and after they needed a new manager after Heitinga was let go. He also left I’m not saying Van Der Sar has a problem with it black peoples but it definitely looks like he has problems with them
@JamailvanWestering
11 ай бұрын
Uhm no, Mislintat was hired in April. He also should not get a free pass since he bought players whose agent has shares in Sven’s company.
@JamailvanWestering
11 ай бұрын
Honestly Adrian don’t have this guy on the show. Steijn last 2 seasons were at Sparta were more Ajax style oriented football at Sparta.
@barrymurphy3379
11 ай бұрын
Van Der Sar and Reiziger have known each other since they were children, having come through the Ajax academy together and winning a Champion's League at Ajax, Bogarde was also in that team, they played their entire international career's with Edwin as their keeper, insinuating he is Racist is disgraceful 🧐
@JamailvanWestering
11 ай бұрын
@@barrymurphy3379 yeah he didn’t chose those teams now did he? Like he wasn’t the manager… don’t be gullible and stupid
@MikeyFEonline
11 ай бұрын
Nice vid, well explained. Grtz fr/ Amsterdam ❌❌❌
@paulie-g
11 ай бұрын
Papi says they need a director of football with balls who is an alpha male. Yous already had one with Overmars, and apparently it was so much of a problem you had to sack him. Make that lady coach who complained the DoF. That'll fix it.
@neliz2k
11 ай бұрын
This is the most shallow and devoid of realism video on the problems I've seen so far.
@AmarFox6
11 ай бұрын
If proper introduction is not necessary, so is my subscription
@TheSperoman
11 ай бұрын
My club is bleeding out
@jordancorley828
11 ай бұрын
Solid video
@stevenvandereijk2338
11 ай бұрын
I think you could argue that this all started in the way they coped with the situation arround Nouri collapsing on the field, that was a real shit storm and that stuck to the board of directors
@simonfarrimond3664
11 ай бұрын
When you become a selling club for the europes elite every season there is always going to come a time when those you bring in to replace are not as good as those you sold and thats one of the resaons for the drop in performance.. club needs to start saying no to the big money and put the team first
@BrianStorm742
11 ай бұрын
Easier said than done.
@kingkashin
11 ай бұрын
Thank you Adrian for distracting me from my breakup
@JV-oy1zi
11 ай бұрын
You’ll get through it bro! We all been there and it get’s better even though it may not feel like it now.
@joshmartinez9471
11 ай бұрын
Santi 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
@saulgoodman7651
11 ай бұрын
I’m a Feyenoord fan and this has been the most fun time ever because of these clowns hahaha
@itoslablanc5159
11 ай бұрын
As a Spurs fans these Ajax fans have been spoiled by their team's historic success just like Man Utd.
@fassie79
11 ай бұрын
succes from the 1970's?
@sillymatilda
11 ай бұрын
When will Spurs start spoiling there fans? With some other than Audi cup.
@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297
11 ай бұрын
First of all, Ajax was in european finals and semi finals in the 60s , 70s, 80s, 90s , 00s , 10s , and won cups in most those decades I dont know what club you support but a recent Europa league final and near CL final would be better than even most petrodollar UK teams Second of all, the lack of respect from Anglo saxon fans since 2010 is mind boggling Only reason your dumb premier league is top of th world since a decade is all that foreign money Dutch clubs , and classic Portuguese clubs for that matter , let alone a Red Star Belgrade, have to make due with the financial scraps and cannot keep up with premier league nr 16 buying 50 players It's one of the reasons I dislike English these days , they are obnoxious and oblivious about the destructing force of their oil money league
@MovieRiotHD
11 ай бұрын
Even the New York Times made a video about it 😂
@tizianoniero9165
11 ай бұрын
Good riddance. I am so tired to hear about a team that has a decent line up every 20 years and it get called the school of football and similar bollocks.
@BrianStorm742
11 ай бұрын
THANK YOU
@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297
11 ай бұрын
That was in 6 CL finals , won 4 of them, spanning over decades including CL semis , always with a lot less money to spend than any Serie A club when they had their big money age , or soanish and enlgish clubs later The lack of respect for smaller european countries is incredible Dutch clubs were in 8 CL finals , won 6 of them , more than France (1!) Portugal and the many not ever winning countries combined Recently, even without any real money these days , Dutch clubs played two european finals and a near CL final Dutch players and coaches layedt the foundation for Barcelona , won three European cups for Milan , which they never won without those world class players We've got one fifth of your bigger counties populations, show some dammn respect
@tizianoniero9165
11 ай бұрын
@@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297 I am well aware of Ajax achievements and doesn't belittle what i wrote. Ajax is cyclical. Here how it goes: NOTHING - Cruyff - Nothing - Van Basten - Nothing - Van Gaal - Nothing - Nothing - Semi Final CL with overrated players already irrelevant in european football. No one belittles dutch achievements. They just need to be considered for the actual contribution rather than be marvelled by virtue of dogmatic respect. I have the right respect for Ajax, you on the other hand are delusional.
@Kr1sh0
11 ай бұрын
Can you make a video on Juve and allegri
@jaredlevin4719
11 ай бұрын
Funny because Stiejn’s son Sem scored against Ajax when they played against Twente
@fassie79
11 ай бұрын
"Ajax philosophy", "Ajax style", Ajax this, Ajax that. It's all just utter BS if you ask me. Why is great football expected only when they win? Right now, they are losing and nobody wants to see "Ajax football", they just want to see them win the game. If they cared so much about the "Ajax system", they would be happy to play it, even if it means losing a game. The only things that counts is winning and whoever says that's not true, can take current Ajax as an example. There is no such thing as "Ajax football". It has never existed. There are lots of other teams who play attacking football. It's just arrogant to think that Ajax invented it. They clearly didn't.
@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297
11 ай бұрын
Which shows you know absolutely nothing about the evolution of football and how innovative Ajax and Oranje were spanning 1968-1974 with 5 consecutive Dutch Cl finals, 4 wins , two consecutive world cup finals all involving a then novel system with offside trapping wingbacks , outside players and many ideas by michels, later the foundation of Cruyf at Barca which became their style , many times admitted by Xavi or Guardiola You dont know anything man
@mr.sushi2221
11 ай бұрын
Who else watched the feyenoord game and were shocked
@noahh799
11 ай бұрын
not really , ajax have been really poor
@pidfenderlane9012
11 ай бұрын
The "make a wish" children at that game.
@mr.sushi2221
11 ай бұрын
@@pidfenderlane9012 felt really bad for them
@pidfenderlane9012
11 ай бұрын
@@mr.sushi2221, same, that's what shocked me the most.
@menno7349
11 ай бұрын
I knew they'd lose badly, the games leading upto it made that obvious. Also the coach openly throwing players under the bus, and saying he doesn't know what's going wrong tactically made immediate improvement unlikely. The riots were unexpected and a shock though. I remember watching the Feyenoord supporters storm their club several years ago, and thinking that would never happen at our club. Illusion shattered, in bad times some of the fans behave just as badly.
@MichaelBoogerd
11 ай бұрын
Utrecht (a) and PSV (a)... Ajax will be in the relegation zone soon. in Hato they have a real world class centre back in the making, but at 17 it's not like he's ready to be the rock in that totally shite new defence. Vos and Axel van Dongen emerging is good. I'm surprised Taylor stayed, but he will have to prove they can build a team around his engine room / recycling in the midfield. More worrying for me, is that for a few years, Ajax2 have also been total crap.
@koopalibrary
11 ай бұрын
I would say Overmars departure is the reason. Say what you will about the rest of his character. He knows football
@TheBusbyBabes
11 ай бұрын
i dont get the mislintat thing. how is it a conflict of interest if the stuttgart agreed to the transfer and sosa didnt strike or something to force the move.
@BrianStorm742
11 ай бұрын
It's not explained too well in the video, but it was a personal deal between Mislintat and Sosa's agent, who owns a 3% share in an analytics company owned by Mislintat. Since Ajax is listed on the stock exchange, such potential conflicts of interest need to be disclosed, like, by law, but this one wasn't.
@TheBusbyBabes
11 ай бұрын
@@BrianStorm742 yeah i knew that the agents of sosa also own share in his analysis company. but in the end no one got screwed over or anything. seems to me like its just about technicalities. its not like sosa did anything bad you could say mislintat maybe influenced to push the price or something. so this being made into a big deal seems really weird to me
@BrianStorm742
11 ай бұрын
@@TheBusbyBabes nobody's blaming Sosa, though. It's not his fault. The fact that it wasn't disclosed is suspicious in itself.
@TheBusbyBabes
11 ай бұрын
@@BrianStorm742 yeah im not saying that but in some german media i get the impression they try to frame mislintat like a criminal when i dont believe its a big deal since no one got harmed
@BrianStorm742
11 ай бұрын
@@TheBusbyBabes but he did break the law.
@bainesontoastz1
11 ай бұрын
ngl as a feyenoord fan (arsenal still my no1 team that will never change but a fan of feyenoord cause of when reiss nelson was there) ajax failing gives me so much joy especially since that vermin berghuis is there getting packed by twente
@dnmd5222
11 ай бұрын
How? Winning the league without a good ajax must be so satisfying dont it?....
@bainesontoastz1
11 ай бұрын
@@dnmd5222 if anything it makes it better
@KwisatzHaderach.22.
11 ай бұрын
We were amazing in the 18/19 season and now we are in shambles. I guess just being average isn't enough hahah
@morgancarvalho4408
11 ай бұрын
Well they made a lot of money with antony and others. Sven didnt get time, and if it's proved that he made some dodgy transfers to an agency he had percentages on...what a mess. Relying on old men os not the way it should be, but sometimes like hodgson in palace or xavi in Barcelona, might be a short term solution, but not a future prospect into the future.
@gretre6016
11 ай бұрын
Me too movement destroyed Ajax end of story
@midimanify
11 ай бұрын
When you buy average championship striker from Middlesbrough for over £10mil then you are gonna have issues 😂
@gulinp1
11 ай бұрын
Ajax has some of the worst mid field players i have ever watched at that level. Like, they could have signed 30 better from Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian league etc. They just had games where two midfileders had 54 passes. Great mid fileders have +70 touches each. They signed Šutalo at CB and yes, guy can carry ball outside his defensive lines, but it's hilarious that they don't even know how to use it, or how their mid fielders don't even position themselfs to recive pass. And ofc, without midfield presence, they can't create anything, that's why they are no treat for opposing goal.
@hr-g4640
11 ай бұрын
I would bring the AZ Alkmaar sporting director and the coaching team as well
@vegasvandough
11 ай бұрын
FEYENOORD ROTTERDAM
@ligma4816
11 ай бұрын
Im here because of santi 😅
@zahidsiddiqui
11 ай бұрын
Getting xavi to talk about Ajax is some good work from Ramona TV
@kokminglee3540
11 ай бұрын
Ten Hag had a hand in this, poaching all the players for his MU team
@edwardkelly3280
11 ай бұрын
He got 2 players
@vvv-o9y
11 ай бұрын
new song for Ajax "" i can"t stand loosing""
@vredeling
11 ай бұрын
Few sidenotes.. This 'brilliant' Overmars didnt want Ziyech a few years ago. After a period of public pressure and mediocre Ajax he went with it and from the arrival of Ziyech on everything started to click. Van der Sar was already unsuited for any kind of function high up the tree. But just with Feyenoord at the moment, succes and good football can camouflage reality. Ajax supporters are just not very critical, mostly. But what has been rotting for many years now, finally came out. And the problem is broader then just replacing some puppets.
@Fvqsam
11 ай бұрын
In a summer where saudi isnt throwing Millions like darts Ajaxs would've got someone like Jaissle as a coach
@Blabla-sp8si
11 ай бұрын
Feyenoord will always be the biggest club in the netherlands
@blackinton2526
11 ай бұрын
Feyenoord, What Color is your Buga... i mean Champions League trophy
@rajoosamy201
11 ай бұрын
Why isn’t ten Haq mentioned for buying so many players from Ajax.. weakening the team beyond recognition..
@vizuz
11 ай бұрын
Ten Hag only bought 2 Ajax players. And that isn´t the reason for Ajax´s downfall, they got a lot of money for Antony and Martinez.
@Vermilion2049
11 ай бұрын
Sold too many good players. They need to reinvest the money earned back into the team
@stevencooke1027
11 ай бұрын
Shouldn't Ajax have been punished with a forfeit, fine, and a stadium ban? I'd like a points deduction too. It would encourage them to be selective about their fan base.
@floyd6579
11 ай бұрын
Helemaal niets in Amsterdam, Helemaal niets in Amsterdam😂😂😂
@BourneIdentity45
11 ай бұрын
Ajax and Lyon both having abnormally bad starts to their seasons
@mickeymrinlandrabbit9297
11 ай бұрын
Why is Lyon mentioned everywhere I the same breath with Ajax . Ajax has a bigger history and trophy cabinet than Manchester United, let alone Lyon , who never really won anything of importance Fans these days dont really take the historical impact of clubs into account it seems
@Delta-nl7pi
11 ай бұрын
It seems this club has been served up a gigantic portion of Karma. Some humility wont hurt for them. Good luck 'sons of gods' Welcome back to earth
@rahuldsouza1985
11 ай бұрын
Ajax is having a Chelsea like season
@kc270352
11 ай бұрын
i think they should of stuck with Heitinga
@menno7349
11 ай бұрын
Honestly I don't believe he'll ever make a great head coach. But he offered to step back down and still help out, at which I still feel weird that we're refusing help of former players. In no position to do so.
@willbowen4488
11 ай бұрын
Nice to see Feyenoord and PSV taking advantage though 😅
@dnmd5222
11 ай бұрын
Finally when there is a good feyenoord and psv there is nongood ajax to compete.. Dutch league would be so much more interresting to watch if ajax would compete for the title
@timbulolo8939
11 ай бұрын
The most satisfying downfall of a football club 🥰🥰
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