I heard of guys ending up in the ER because of boiling live rock on the stove. Great video Marc! Leave it to you to cover a topic no one has, here on KZitem.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
I wondered if anyone did it yet, but I didn't actually check.
@HWolfe
5 жыл бұрын
I lived in Florida and was by the seashore(not swimming of course) when it literally hit me..the 'it' being the air from Red Tide...the 'hit' a bad reaction...omgosh😣 I was a hot mess. Didn't wind up in the hospital but I was miserable for the rest of the night. I am glad this video was made by you. The sea has wonders but it doesn't play. Tfs!
@Mindboggle100
7 жыл бұрын
Mel, very clear explanation of a confusing term! Thanks for taking the time to put this video together :-) It really helps when people like yourself go the extra mile, to help others... I appreciate it & have learn't the basics of reefing through KZitem.
@dusk1947
4 жыл бұрын
I just started getting my first Salt Water tank together and am so excited that I have my first pieces of live rock curing in the tank while I continue to build the sump and save for the lights. Unfortunately, I spent the three days following my purchase spending time identifying all the fun things coming out of it: Feather dusters, Aiptasia, and Asterina starfish.... Great start! Thank you for the excellent video. I'm gona go cook it
@gerrytrottier7098
7 жыл бұрын
Hey Marc. I had four knee operations so I couldn't take care of my tank for over 18 months. Nitrates and phosphates were through the roof and I had turf algae everywhere. I cooked 125 pounds in a garbage can for five months before I was satisfied. I swished each rock 30-40 times in three buckets each before putting them in a dark can. I tested NO3 and PO4 regularly. Once I was happy I did not want to go through that again with the next 125 pounds, so I bleached the second half of my rock. The process worked but my situation was extreme. Great video. This process works.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
That was a lot of work indeed. How's your knee now?
@gerrytrottier7098
7 жыл бұрын
Both knees are 85-90% better. I am ecstatic with my recovery. Thanks for asking. I am a big fan. Keep up the good work.
@feedthatreefaddiction1508
7 жыл бұрын
Wonder how many people will stumble on this bc they want to 'cook rock' lol
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
+FeedThatReefAddiction lol
@bfbaquaculture
7 жыл бұрын
hehe
@guser436
5 жыл бұрын
well it happened im here i was looking for a video on cooking pyura chilensis but i guess this was interesting content too
@Justthemow
5 жыл бұрын
Red and black phosphorus petroleum either Pseudoephedrine
@lootznbootz4588
4 жыл бұрын
I laughed every time I heard him say "cooking live rock" because of this comment 😂
@RogueAquariums
7 жыл бұрын
Great how video Marc on how to preserve and keep your rock clean and cycle it in case you want to use it again.
@TheReefingWulf
7 жыл бұрын
Extremely informative! Keep up with the great videos! Loved the blooper LOL!!
@NanoJoe
7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very quick to the point and still informal and practical.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
Got it done in less than 30 minutes (of me talking) for once. lol
@NanoJoe
7 жыл бұрын
melevsreef hell yeah! *high five*
@ReefSpy
7 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of you videos I feel I learn something new. Thank you and keep up the good work!
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad for that. I always hope to include some small snippet that makes the viewing beneficial even to someone that has been in the hobby for quite some time.
@BearNecessitiesOfLife
6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know when I was going to get my 125 build - I got rock close to a year ago, it's been in a 40 gallon brute trash can with a power head and heater. I made some salt water and have topped it off every so often. I am planning on testing my water but I haven't seen any aptasia on it in the past month or so. The water looks crystal clear and I don't see any signs of life in there so im curious how the water parameters are. I got this from some random person on CL who used it in his tank. I am glad I went this route though and didn't use acid or anything else. Was simple and easy and worked out great for me who needed time to work on getting everything ready for the 125.
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
You did exactly the right thing, and you're good to go. :)
@dinglehammer
7 жыл бұрын
Glad you made this video. palytoxin and maitotoxin are not things you want to expose yourself to, and boiling rock is a good way to potentially expose EVERYONE in your house to such compounds, pets included.
@andywoolloo
7 жыл бұрын
So glad you made this video! From reading forums people really do think cooking is boiling
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
Now you can share this video in any of those threads. :)
@SharbucklesReef
7 жыл бұрын
Great information Mark. Ive "cooked" my new rock for three months now. I think its time to set this new tank up!
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
Do it! :)
@DJ_LittlePea
7 жыл бұрын
This was really informational you did an exceptional job .... the ending was awesome 🤗
@PSCThrillSeeker
7 жыл бұрын
Great video Marc, on how to clean and cycle live rock. Best always!
@maineway1999
7 жыл бұрын
On your question for the views that your channel gets, I think people like to see set up videos, build videos, updates and basically anything that has to actually do with the livestock and upkeep of your current tanks
@PaulBlaney
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid very well done and explained things great couldn't have been better
@hokemspitter
7 жыл бұрын
I have a sump which is a 75 gallon tank, with some poorly constructed baffles. I would love to see a how to break down a sump on a running system and put in baffles with the least pain.
@MarioNetasZz661
7 жыл бұрын
I was torching the heck outta my live rock ..this was like 3yrs ago so I'm ok now ...great vid..
@00Mass00
6 жыл бұрын
I wanted to confirm the part that you DO NOT want to boil or put a rock with Zoa's or Palythoa's in RO water. I know a guy who almost died from that (hospitalized at intensive care) , together with his son and even his dog.. Palytoxin is no joke. Personally I would never boil rocks, Just buy dry rock.
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
Correct, don't boil it. Don't even scrub the rock indoors where your air is limited - you want lots of fresh air for a project like that.
@00Mass00
6 жыл бұрын
melevsreef Great video by the way!
@Blackbookproduct10ns
7 жыл бұрын
Wish I knew this before! I let some extra rock sit out in the sun and dry first. Now it's been doing exactly what you said for the past year almost. But it's totally dead.
@Blackbookproduct10ns
7 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize you can kill the unwanted stuff without killing the rock.
@gt500shelby9
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, i agree. i dipped for six weeks with lugols twice, did not do much but killed all the color. Revive made them freak out. Bayer killed them. I toke them all to the edge of death. brown almost white. So i put them back into main tank not sure any thing was going to live. surprisingly everything is coming back very slowly. melanurus wrasse are my new best friend.
@edwindhanasekar4575
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@leeandmandybattersby5958
7 жыл бұрын
Loved this video you should do more like this 👍👍👍👍
@rafaelsoriano5365
7 жыл бұрын
So basically your just curing the rock....
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
No, curing liverock is when you take uncycled rock and toss it in a vat of water for it to cycle. This is how you resolve nuisance algae as well as rejuvenate rock to get all the trapped detritus out and release the phosphate bound up in the rock.
@ekimlicata8713
7 жыл бұрын
Hey maybe you can do a video on your past tanks. That would be really cool. Nice yard by the way.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
I will do that in about two years. :)
@Albertoamigon
7 жыл бұрын
the end was aw3some!!! lolzzz
@victorfox9623
6 жыл бұрын
Love the thumbnail.👍 Bring to a boil, cover and reduce heat to a smooth simmer, and wait 30 minutes. Add 2 pinches of salt and 1/4 cup of chaeto. Then serve over a shallow sand bed.
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
Victor Fox 😂 you are so wrong!
@frankl1024
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another very informative video!
@davileett1224
7 жыл бұрын
I cook live rock with bleach water. Rinse well and soak in water with a lot of dechlorinator. Rinse and repeat a few times.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
It's really not cooking at that point, you're giving your rock a bleach bath. And after it's been bleached, there's no life left and it will need to be re-seeded with pods, bacteria, and coralline algae.
@malawimaya
7 жыл бұрын
How can I kill vermitid snails on live rock without killing everything else on it @melevsreef???
@timeepicvideos
3 жыл бұрын
i liked this vid great pointers
@nyc42otoker
Ай бұрын
Did u clean and treat the 55 gal blue bin before u use it if so with what i have two i wanna clean to use not sure what was in it but want to be sire
@jenkinscrew
7 жыл бұрын
Great info! Thanks Marc!
@DeeFromBrooklyn
7 жыл бұрын
Great video Mark, I've definitely vinegar treated to get rid of an aiptasia infestated rock..
@mujacko2002
4 жыл бұрын
would you recommend dipping also the "cooked" live rock in hydrogen perox or any chems to disinfect live rocks? Or just doing what you do is enough?
@cyngravatt123
6 жыл бұрын
I also don’t frag I don’t like cutting live corals. Throwing them out in the sun sounds horrible too
@BearNecessitiesOfLife
7 жыл бұрын
This is amazing information. I am curious though. for the saltwater, should it be RODI mixed with salt or would tap water/dechlorinated be okay for this process? Going to assume that i'd want RO to remove anything from the tap. But thought I would ask any ways. Again thank you, I was close to just tossing it all in some vinegar.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
I would use RO/DI & salt to make 1.026sg saltwater. The more pure your water, the better. You are trying to drop the nutrients trapped in the rock, so using water that contains chlorine or phosphate or nitrate would be working against the process.
@ScottM
7 жыл бұрын
excellent video with a lot of great information. I did love the ending.
@melainkinney7213
4 жыл бұрын
Great video i got 60 pound live used rock some had aiptasia on them those i tossed away . but being scared it was in the tank . i set the 60 pounds i kept outside in the sun /cold it's winter time here cleaned it with ro di water . i hated to do that but aiptasia scared me so much the tank had these tiny aiptasia believe there tiny star fish looking .. . so set it out doors for 4 weeks brought it in 2 week ago and began mix ixing and cooking it in bucket (per your video ) of fresh salt water room temp circulating . Plan to leave it covered 2 more weeks that is were i love it when you said u store it forever in your own home .. so can i expect that any hitch hikers will not be there when i'm ready in 2 to 4 weeks to use this rock . it was a grab these rock now the guy was moving take it all deal free .. came with fish there fine shape normally i resist impulse . guess my bottom question should i cure the rock even longer since i know history of the rock or cut my loss just enjoy nice tangs i got and be happy ?
@dsanford12
5 жыл бұрын
So curing it is the same as cycling it and cooking it is getting rid of the pests and unwanted stuff ?
@melevsreef
5 жыл бұрын
Cycling is the process of converting foul-smelling rock (due to decay of living matter usually caused by shipping out of water for a few days), getting it through the A-N-N *cycle* until it can be used. Cooking rock is a method of re-vitalizing used live rock to help export all the trapped detritus within it, and to help kill off algae primarily. The longer it cooks, the more likely pests will wither away due to a lack of foodsource.
@MHoran86
3 жыл бұрын
so the process would be the same for dry rock/Marco Rock I just aquascaped? Better to cook it in a bin for 6-8 weeks, then in my tank? Assuming this means once I transfer the cooked rock over, with some added biomedia from an already running tank I have, the cycle process should be somewhat short?
@melevsreef
3 жыл бұрын
You can definitely get the rock going now before it goes in the tank, submerging it in saltwater with good flow. Add some Live Rock Enhance (available on my site) to seed the rock with beneficial bacteria. Do some water changes because dry rock often times contains phosphate. Then once the tank is ready to set up, you can put that rock in the aquarium with some life. You can use the Dry Rock Starter kit (Brightwell product; also on my website) to do a quicker cycle.
@jameshamelin2969
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, just a quick question. I did everything you said and it's been over 8 weeks, can I use this rock in a established reef tank?
@melevsreef
2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@XtraKargo
2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if the brittle stars could survive this, or would they starve out? I have some cyano, bubble algae and some Texas Trash pallies I'd like to see gone, but would hate to waste a good live rock. Thank you!
@melevsreef
2 жыл бұрын
They would live for a while, but the cooking process eliminates food and light usually, so they likely would starve out. If you added food, aiptasia, manjanos etc would continue living.
@Healeyjet
3 жыл бұрын
Would you ever risk putting new live rock direct from the ocean into a new aquarium? I am willing to wait for hitchhikers to appear and deal with them but is the risk of other pests worth the reward?
@sarahx87
5 жыл бұрын
i thought you're cooking pyura chilensis
@brutalisk1994
5 жыл бұрын
yeah me too :-DD
@renea.2707
7 жыл бұрын
Wow great information! Thanks
@justicemcclendon680
7 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have a 32 gallon nano from coral life and I need wise live stock choices because I'm about to be a reefer and I have a 55 freshwater that been running for 2 years so I know about aquariums.
@TheThrillanmanilla
7 жыл бұрын
The picture for the video with the stove is a bit misleading lol. (I've heard the paly toxin horror stories.)
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
I know, right? That was intentional. :)
@tsurro8086
7 жыл бұрын
Usually do something similar to this , but I new build I used pukani rock and is leaching phosphates like crazy in my display while still cycling like .68!
@adiroy265
6 жыл бұрын
Quick question, when do you generally introduced the rock to an established aquarium? I am it's been a month since my 40 pound rock is curing , still have high nitrate, do you look for absolutely zero in everything then introduce to the tank or any other way, thanks--
@daveonbass79
7 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Just one silly question...why is "ELECTRICITY" backwards on your shirt?
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
;) That's how it is when you mix the two. www.melevsreef.com/node/1769
@daveonbass79
7 жыл бұрын
melevsreef Interesting...i never looked into that. thanks.
@genehall8895
7 жыл бұрын
I have a barrel of old live rock that has been dead and dry for years .Is it safe to use ,and if so how should it be cleaned and or processed before i can use it for base rock?
@brodyballew925
5 жыл бұрын
I’m getting what was once live rock from someone’s old tank it’s now dry rock it’s sat outside for a good bit so if I just mix saltwater to 1.25 and add a power head for about a month it should be good to go for cycling my new tank?
@melevsreef
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that sounds right to me.
@eldridgehenry2
7 жыл бұрын
ok this is great if you have used rock but what about new rock. will this work with pukani as well?
@airtripko
7 жыл бұрын
Great topic!
@cyngravatt123
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, your response was super helpful. I can break up the rock and see if I can find people to take them. I don’t know anyone that has a reef and I live in an area that has no fish stores....except one over an hour away. How would I go about shipping it to private parties that want some. Will it die in the winter? Thanks for your help.
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
If you wanted to ship corals to anyone, it would be handled exactly how the fish stores receive their orders. Carefully packed in bags of water, packed in styrofoam coolers with heat packs, shipped overnight to limit time out of the aquarium... Lots of work. I only tend to ship corals during spring and fall when the weather is the mildest.
@COOPERSCICHILDS
7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video but it's there a such thing as live fresh water rock? great video
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
I don't know, sorry.
@BodyworkASMR
7 жыл бұрын
my live rocks are plagued with mini vermetid snails. I don't have any other bad pests and bad algaes. Should I cook my rock.
@kenhickey4730
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Melev, I have Hair algae and I am thinking it is due to Marco Rocks having Phosphate. I will place some of my smaller rocks in a bucket and try this process.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
Let me know how that goes. Can you set up a skimmer with that bucket somehow?
@kenhickey4730
7 жыл бұрын
No skimmer for the bucket, :-(
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
You can give it a shot. Maybe dose the water with circulation, then let it settle with no flow, remove the rocks shaking them off well in the water, and place them in a new bucket of water. Or if you have a canister filter... Or if you can rig a filter sock (I sell the 10micron socks) to trap the flocculant, using a small powerhead to push water up into the sock and drain back down into the bucket.
@andrewgonzalez3970
4 жыл бұрын
Hey man you think this option would work for a vermitted snail outbreak??
@Cerg64
7 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video! Thank you! I may have missed it but will cooking my rock for an extended period rid it of majanos? We are moving next year and I want to keep my rock for my 125gal. I want to streamline my 75gal. Now for more space for better flow and coral display. Thank you !!
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
The longer the rock simmers in total darkness, the fewer any pests can survive. Manjanos are a real pain, but they are attracted to light. You might be able to rig a small light shining through a hole in the lid, which in theory they'd move to get to. And if that worked well, you could even move the light to shine on the wall of your container perhaps so they'd migrate to that area for easier removal. Regardless, they will definitely climb to the highest point to get to light, so perhaps they would gather on a single rock. The rest would be manjano free, and you'd focus your efforts on that one rock.
@Cerg64
7 жыл бұрын
melevsreef Perfect! Thank you for the help!
@rebeldeasupoder92
7 жыл бұрын
Do you use ZEOvit Media in your aquarium? Why or Why not? and If you do, What would yo suggest after the media is used? Can it be "recycle" some how?
@Dean_O.
7 жыл бұрын
Marc, would changing the water more frequently speed up the cooking process? If the rock is sitting in water with high ammonia, phosphate etc., would it make sense to change the water more frequently? thanks.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
Actually, if the rock is high ammonia, you don't want to change the water at all because it is going through a cycle. You need it to go through the A-N-N stages, then you can change water weekly if you wish.
@SourGrey
2 жыл бұрын
I did bleach soak a few days. Then clean water rinse. Then bake in oven 20m
@melevsreef
2 жыл бұрын
The baking part was very dangerous.
@SourGrey
2 жыл бұрын
@@melevsreef opened doors had a fan
@SourGrey
2 жыл бұрын
But ya your right
@pamkonen8593
7 жыл бұрын
have rock thats been sitting out in dark basement. I cooked it for 3 weeks just as u showed, can I put in tank I'm starting brand new tank....need to cycle....
@eligonzalezvaca3309
6 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I came across this video. I have some rock I'd need to cook. Hahaha
@chaosinc.8906
7 жыл бұрын
dam, i just tore down a take today, I wish i knew this earlier it is to late they have been outside all day.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
You can still put the rock in saltwater, the core is still wet.
@davidfinch8790
7 жыл бұрын
Im a little confused. You specifically mention this method can be used for removing Aiptasia from the rock but then mention that you can "scrape aiptasia off of it if you want to". True, but if I am to remove the rock, scrape the aip off then return to display tank, why do I need to put it in a bucket for X-weeks? Im told attempting to scrape Aip off manually will likely result in them releasing spores and worsening the problem. I have approx 20% of my rock infested with Aip. Ive got Aip-X for the bigguns and a crew of peppermints to get a hold on the babies that pop up, my thoughts were just to nuke the worse rock with boiling RO (outside in a barrel not on the stove) and then effectively have that rock re-seeded by what still exists in my system. Is this method for me, or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
If you wanted to remove them out of your tank in a barrel of water, you wouldn't have to worry about released spores whatsoever. No matter what you do, you need to stay on top of it daily or every few days until you can't find them any more. Using Aiptasia-X and some peppermint shrimp is a good idea, and you can do it in-tank.
@estheryyee
7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the vid!
@MrCompressiceps
7 жыл бұрын
i wish i saw this before doing exactly what he said not to do, ie boiling rock on stove top.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
Spread the word to help others. Glad you are okay. :)
@duffy1298
7 жыл бұрын
Would you mind explaining your take on starting a reef tank? As far as cycling and first animals you'd recommend? Thanks
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
+duffy1298 Did you watch the cycling video yet?
@BONESYOU
6 жыл бұрын
So your return lines are coming from the bottom middle of the tank? What do you have for a fail safes?
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
Here's the blog with the return lines: www.reefaddicts.com/entry.php/28974-The-400g-is-officially-running-(Blog-500!)?bt=45774
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
And here's the reverse check valve video: kzitem.info/news/bejne/tZqLuKOkqHWqjYI
@andrebrazil7307
7 жыл бұрын
if you remove a majority of you rock to cook it, is there enough beneficial bacteria remaining in your tank to sustain a small bioload through the process?
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
This process is really for used rock you purchased, or if you are breaking down your tank to move to a new one and know it'll be a couple of months before you're ready. For example, you're moving from one place to another, so you break down the tank and move everything to the new place. But since you are busy moving in, focusing on getting everything just right, you really won't have time to set up the tank yet -- or you want to take your time getting the plumbing and wiring just right this time. All that time the rock could be cooking. One other thing you could do is remove a couple of pieces of rock at a time and cooking them, rotating through system gradually. But messing with your aquascape every so often may be too annoying. But if you purchased quite a bit of rock from a guy getting out of the hobby, cook it all and then one day attack your tank and set it up fresh with all the cooked rock, and put the used rock from the tank in the barrel and let it simmer until you need it some day. :)
@davismcmoney5342
7 жыл бұрын
Would the same method work for dead rock that has dried up?
@capnjerkface7220
6 жыл бұрын
@melevsreef Would this be the best method of removing invasive zoas on a rock?
@MoneyMarcMes
7 жыл бұрын
Will this kill tube worms in the liverock as well?
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
They would starve them to some degree and lessen their population, but no it won't eliminate every last one.
@daniel69284
7 жыл бұрын
I have a question please .. What about cooking rock in a garage during summer in TX ( 100 degrees out side). I am cooking rock now and the water in my Brute trashcan is Hot.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
Some bacteria will likely die due to the higher water temperature, but it won't kill it all off. It should be okay, just make sure you maintain circulation. Maybe install a fan to blow on the water to help cool it?
@pramodm6500
6 жыл бұрын
Nice video Mark. But i have a question here. If we fully cure live rock for 4 to 8 weeks, it means we are making ammonia to zero. This means the water is cycled. So when we put the fully cured live rock into our new aquarium tank, how will it help the water in the tank to cycle?
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
Cooking the live rock is to rejuvenate it. It's not about cycling it or curing it, per se. If you ended up with a cycle and it reached zero, it would be ready to transfer into a new tank. Assuming you keep it fully submerged at all times, other than physically lifting it out of the water only long enough to put it in the tank full of water, it should be ready for *some* new life. But putting a bunch of cured rock in a tank doesn't mean you can hit it with a heavy bioload. It's not really about the water although we do want stable parameters. The Cycle is really about bacteria. As it converts from Ammonia to Nitrite to Nitrate, the bacteria in the system will build up in numbers to absorb and process what the livestock produces and wastes. Fish waste is ammonia based, but the constant number of bacteria in the system quickly converts it to nitrite and nitrate all the time.
@rrrreefer9721
5 жыл бұрын
How can I get a call with you on some advice. I have a new tank just set up, running tank with all of my livestock, and a 40 gallon QT that's not set up yet. I need my live rock out to aquascape the new tank but have nems and coral everywhere. The fish won't have live rock to handle the ammonia. Just really need your help on possible logistics of handling the livestock and setup. Thanks and love your channel.
@melevsreef
5 жыл бұрын
Send me your phone number via Contact Us on my website, and include a good time of day to speak. I offer consultation as well, if you need more than a few questions answered.
@stefanbates923
5 жыл бұрын
Mel I've got some marco rock being delivered in the next few days that's never been In a tank can I do the exact same thing as you describe in your video to cook / cure the rock? Thanks Mel
@postaljeepdave
7 жыл бұрын
i'm needing to reboot my tank. had a major outbreak of macro algae mainly bubble algae. my plan was to acid kill and then re cure the rock. would cooking rock like this kill off the spores in the rock from the algae. i would hate to go through the trouble of cooking the rock only to instantly have an algae problem return.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
If you cook the liverock for a few (at least six) weeks in darkness, yes the bubble algae will weaken, fade and probably die off. You will be able to easily remove what remains. And if you are skimming the water, changing the water, or using Phosphate Rx to remove phosphate from the water, that took will help you solve this issue.
@SolomonKane71
7 жыл бұрын
Do you use any additives (MicroBacter7, etc.) when you cook rock?
@soempaing2436
7 жыл бұрын
How much calories does a 1lb live rock has? Does it provide enough vitamins and fiber?
@Jheat64
7 жыл бұрын
I have 32g brute trash can with about 100 lbs of rock. it's been cooking for about 6 months now.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
That's great. Do you ever change the water in there? Might want to do it now while you're thinking about it.
@Jheat64
7 жыл бұрын
melevsreef I don't change it often, about 6 to 8 weeks. Last water change was mid-October. I do top it off once a week.
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much what I did as well. I had a barrel filled with rock for years - maybe four years. lol Didn't have to top off much because I had the inverted lid on top to keep the moisture in the barrel.
@Jheat64
7 жыл бұрын
melevsreef I probably should have inverted the lid. I just snapped it on normally. After a few weeks in the summer heat, it warped pretty badly.
@JessyCat77
7 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!
@ReefRealEstateInCanada
7 жыл бұрын
Creative Soup hey Marc nothing to do with this video but I was trying to find your video with the sump vacuum pump you used. Going out to get that set up. Can you let me know what video it was. Thanks man!!
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
This is the video, around the 21 minute mark: kzitem.info/news/bejne/uW17s4yeh5tiooI
@thingwhatever
6 жыл бұрын
I just bought some coral from the pawnshop. Not sure if it’s live or not. But it’s going to be put in my 90gal freshwater tank. Will this process in the video make the coral safe for freshwater⁉️ Thanks‼️
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
Odds are it's dead, pawn shops don't sell livestock. You can leave it in the sun for a week or so, then soak it in tapwater before you put it your aquarium.
@marektustin4637
7 жыл бұрын
great info, like always :)
@dcbrixxton2113
6 жыл бұрын
Now that I know the difference from curing to cooking, I can go about deciding on rock the informed way. I wanted live rock for the instant color but not the potential hitchikers, and cheaper the better. Now I think ill buy from established tanks off of CL and cook any potential nuisance off. Is this method good at minimizing bad hitchhikers?
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
That's definitely one method, the one I use. However, you might look up Real Reef rock if you desire color and shapes... it's not alive though. I saw their booth today at MACNA, they had a lot of dry rock on display with the deep purple look.
@timmiegray7212
7 жыл бұрын
my LFS told me.to set in sun for 2 weeks then put in tank to cycle is that wrong?
@tentyme1
6 жыл бұрын
I have a question i'm hoping you can help me with. I have some really nice what used to be live rock in my freshwater aquarium for the past 7 years. What is the best way and how would I get this rock ready to be used in a saltwater aquarium? Thx for your help Mel !!
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
I don’t know. Some rock may be fine in freshwater (lace, lava) isn’t suitable for saltwater. We try to avoid using rock that may have metals in them. Previous medications used could have infused that rock too. So it comes down to the history of that rock: what has it been through and what is it made of to know if it is safe to use with a saltwater tank.
@tkiefer72
6 жыл бұрын
For bad aiptasia infestation would you recommend killing/sterilizing/sun drying the rock for a couple weeks/or something similar to kill all spores (just to be safe), then "cook" cooking the rock or after the drying out process should you just cyre/cycle the rock? Basically what is the best way to make sure there is no aiptasia? I have no problem being patience on the back end to re-cycle the rock as long as i know that darn pest is gone! Especially if I am completely tearing down the tank to move... I would want to make sure I started fresh. Thanks
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
There are a few predators you could put in a vat with the rock during the cooking process. Peppermint shrimp for example. I just ordered a new laser last night to replace the one I bought three years ago, and this one is 4x as strong. Can't wait to cook any aiptasia I can find, and do an update video. :) Aiptasia X would work, Berghia nudibranchs are another method... I don't really see the benefit to drying out rock in the sun ever. Those 'spores' you mentioned can hibernate pretty well, only to return later once water conditions are back to normal.
@cyngravatt123
6 жыл бұрын
I have a 75 gallon tank that is full of Xenia mushrooms and Kenya. I moved all the rock to the left in April and thought I would add other corals to the right side of the tank. But everyday I find little babies floating around trying to attached to the rock on the right that has no corals yet. My rocks are also encrusted with black sponges, so I would guess nobody would want these rocks and animals. If I pull all the rocks out and cook them like you describe here I think I will end up with a horrible huge dead mess of animals. Any suggestions on what I can do? I certainly don’t want to give them to any unsuspecting beginner that doesn’t know any better. Thanks
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
You might break up the rock so you have rubble with corals attached, and that way you can share them with people that actually want those living things. Or maybe get some store credit at the local fish store? They always look for soft corals to sell to new hobbyists.
@IS-db6pn
7 жыл бұрын
What about vermetid snails? How can I get rid of those pests in my rock? Will cooking rock help avoid them in the first place?
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
Not really. If you see them on your rock, I'd cut them off with bone cutters (a type of reefing tool most people own). At the very least, break off their tubes and add blue leg hermits to the tank to devour the worms within.
@BALD8BIL
4 жыл бұрын
I hope you can help me out I lost my butterfly fish yesterday and My local saltwater store told me to remove the rocks out of the aquarium for 3 or 4 days setting in the sun to kill all of the aiptasia off my rocks then put rocks back in aquarium ? or put the rocks inside freshwater ? He also said in the 30 years he's never seen aiptasia this big before and for the rocks that has corals on they keep inside tank and he will give me a new butterfly fish to take care of them. I have a filefish and 2 peppermint shrimp that not working. So right now I have my rocks in ro-di water outside. Would I need to set my rocks inside new saltwater before I put them back in the aquarium?
@melevsreef
4 жыл бұрын
I saw your post in Club Melevsreef and already replied.
@BALD8BIL
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help after he told me I need to pull the rocks out of my tank and set them outside I started searching up how to do that and I came across this videoand if it wasn't for this video they would have been sitting outside and inside of no water to for the sun that cook them up now I will look for the video cycle rocks before installing them back in the aquarium
@arrowheadsf
6 жыл бұрын
will cooking the rock also get rid of vermitid snails?
@melevsreef
6 жыл бұрын
Eventually yes. It would take six months or so.
@NanaReefer
7 жыл бұрын
Kind of off topic a little, still concerning rock though 😉 Marc, do you or not recommend keeping LR in the fuge area of our sumps?
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
No. If I would put rocks in the refugium then those would remain there forever. Macroalgae will take root in the rock, and I won't move it into my display after that. Unless I cooked it for about 3 months first. Just like any rock used in a QT would remain in the QT from then on since it may absorb medications or other problems from new arrivals.
@johncabral4394
5 жыл бұрын
Will this work on vermetid snails? If not what will?
@brucelee5540
6 жыл бұрын
do aiptasia and vermetid snails die in the dark?
@brandywine3235
7 жыл бұрын
Mark is it the same process with "dead rock"?
@melevsreef
7 жыл бұрын
Dead rock that used to be live needs to be cured. Once submerged, it will released the trap ammonia within it from the dead organics. You'll have to keep it in saltwater circulation for at least 3 weeks, maybe longer. Once it has completed its cycle -- which you'd ascertain from daily water tests of ammonia-nitrite-nitrate --- only then would it be ready to use in the display. Can you cook the liverock after it has cured? Yes.
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