I actually have respect for you Rich, due to the fact that you primarily ride two strokes (as do I), but you brought out very valid advantages of the four stroke. Some people are so stuck in their opinions, they refuse to accept anything else. I find your reviews and opinions very unbiased. Bottom line, ride what you like, have your opinions, but for crap's sake - let other people do the same!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree! Thanks for watching brotha!
@marcel7161
2 жыл бұрын
I am the other way around. I own a 350 EXC-F which I use for enduro cross and for training purposes at the MX track. When I want to ride hard enduro, I fly to Romania and rent a 2 Stroke from Gold Class rider Rienk Tuinstra. I once brought my 4 stroke and it simply not suitable enough for hard enduro.
@2WheelDerness
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcel7161 well...I am also from Romania and have a friend with Xr400 with slightly updates, but it goes where majority of us with 300 2strokes cant go. So I really think is about training and experience. I also love the engine brake of 4stroke, something I've been missing a lot. In trail riding I think that I would be lot faster on 4stroke (dont have a tpi so I hold the clutch quite a lot and is anoying). (Edit: we are not Gold Class )
@yoyo5069
2 жыл бұрын
I don't. He stole my brother's brother's cousin's wife and pickup truck.
@hawaiidogoadventures9855
Жыл бұрын
@@2WheelDerness cool to hear. I ride a xr400r I love this bike. Just little heavy but I’m 6 foot 200lbs so just gotta man up lol. 🤙🏼🤙🏼
@SketchyXC
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're saying i need 1 of each? I agree!...lol 🤘
@slintik
2 жыл бұрын
300 2t and fc250f, best combo!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Haha! More bikes is always better!
@leroywilliams7210
2 жыл бұрын
@@slintik same here! 300xc and 250xcf. 300 is awesome the more technical the riding and the 250f is so much better and fun in the singletrack no matter how tight it is.
@swedishrick377
2 жыл бұрын
hahaha...
@rangerrider4eva
2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% 300 for slow technical and 350 for fast and open ;) That’s what I’m going to do
@ericbenson4113
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rich awesome review! I've been a maintenance technician for over 40 years and there's an old saying.. the right tool for the job! The bike that works for you, it's the best bike to have.
@avz46
2 жыл бұрын
Thats why I got my 450fx yamaha from a 2017 xcw300. The ktm 300 shines in slow speed stuff, but I find im faster over all on the big 4strokes. Our events are hare scramble type stuff with some hard enduro sections. If it was all hard enduro, I would have stayed with the 2T. I find most 4T more stable and controllable when trying to keep your over all speeds faster. gearing is more important on a 4T particularly in 1st and 2nd in order to be able to tractor over technical terrain at low rpm.
@cokecruzb
2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree! I have a 300 2T and a 450 4T and both are great for different reasons. In loose terrain (sand, very dry dirt, leaves…) i find the 4T much easier… also in fast rides. For me the only place where 2T shine are river beds, with lots of boulders, or very steep- very slow rock climbs.
@bikesbeersbeats
2 жыл бұрын
I also race harescrambles on a 2T 300 and the 4T riders definitely seem to have an edge as so many of the races are wide open fast sections vs technical woods riding.
@djholman
2 жыл бұрын
In 2018, Graham Jarvis took 1st place at Tough One and 2nd place at Hells Gate on an on a Husqvarna FE250. So, at least one highly skilled rider competes at top levels on a 4-stroke. Occasionally.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Very true!! He also won Romaniacs on a 4 stroke Sherco. And I believe it’s still possible.
@ian9toes
2 жыл бұрын
He also took a bunch of 2nds on Husaberg 4-strokes until KTM bought them out and gave him a 300 to ride and that is when he started winning.
@gophop
Жыл бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto Chris Birch took 1st in Silver class Romaniacs on a KTM 500 last year.
@double-oseven5725
7 ай бұрын
Acknowledging the 2t weight advantage for sure, but if you are tall and strong, and willing to modify a 2021 onwards husky 501 or ktm 500, you can almost have it all...slow chug/lug up hills and high speed tracks. I honestly cant believe how light these 500s feel in tight stuff!!
@double-oseven5725
7 ай бұрын
@@gophop yes that bottom end chug-ability
@mmaaddict78
2 жыл бұрын
I tend to dual sport a bit more than straight trail ride because over the years more and more trails around me are being closed. The 350 makes stretches of road between trails much more bearable. I think a 350 is a much better all around machine, but if all you want to do is hard enduro, the 300 is king.
@josephkool8411
Жыл бұрын
I hear ya. Same thing here in Northern Michigan
@Cross-Country-Biker
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rich, I prefer the simplicity and luggabilty of a 300 2t, I never stop enjoying watching your double blips. 🤙
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
All about simplicity!!
@Cross-Country-Biker
2 жыл бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto true that...so glad 2t came back from the dead. Nothing beats the smell of 2 smoke in the morning 🤙
@clemoniii
2 жыл бұрын
Rich, Your comment "you're not trying hard enough" is so incredibly true, and it's true for all parts of life. At 60, I'm finally SEEING this in the numerous AVERAGE achievements of my life. When I really persisted to master things, I DID! It was exhausting but oh so rewarding! Thank you for driving this home... now, I must go practice BALANCE in the garage 😁
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely can apply that rule to every aspect of your life!! That’s why dirt bikes are rad!!
@Montana_Motorized
2 жыл бұрын
I agree completely. The faster the riding, the more advantageous the 4T. The slower, the better the 2T. I like the 2 stroke fun factor though and prefer it.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right
@steveconnell791
2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@TwistedTriggerEnduro
2 жыл бұрын
Perfect video!!! I have only ridden and make videos on my KTM XCF350 so when people ask 4 vs 2 advice on my channel I have no legitimate reference point. I'll send them this video. Much respect!! 💪😃👍
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching! I appreciate the support!
@BigStreams_
2 жыл бұрын
I would be really interested to see you do a demo of skills on a smaller displacement 4 stroke bike. I’m a dual sport rider but looking to adopt some enduro style skills on my little xt225. It would be awesome to see what a similar bike can do with the proper skills behind it.
@babar69110
2 жыл бұрын
Friend used both and used to say you can ride both same, but it s called 4s because you are X2 tired at end of day, compared to a 2s.... ;)
@Yellowshark667
2 жыл бұрын
I was happy to watch this video . i was always a 2 stroke lover until i got my 4T. i am not a fast rider at all, but i am much faster on my 250excf than i was on my husky wr250. skill level plays a huge part as well as the kind of riding, but for an old guy like myself, even a low power 4t bike makes me faster than a fast explosive 2t. great video!!
@bushybill7189
Жыл бұрын
I have both. 2t 300 for the slow technical stuff, 480 for everything else. Both bikes will do what the other one does for sure, but each does their designated thing exceptionally well.
@thehusqtaco3478
2 жыл бұрын
two stroke better than four stroke?! HOOPLAH! My fourstroke husq has 5000000000 hours on the original motor oil without skippin a beat!!! Solid video! Great talking points! Lots to take away from this video! Thank you for the time and energy invested to make this video
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Haha!! Thanks for watching!
@goneridingparts
2 жыл бұрын
best explanation and description I have heard on the internet and spot on 100%.
@UTPP
5 ай бұрын
Well said, I'm at the cross roads right now. Currently on a 2, tossing up a 4. Thanks
@tkrey23
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. It is funny how a 4T tends to have better traction if you're moving but a 2T tends to have better traction in scenarios where you will be stopping and starting again. for me though the 2T gives me more smiles per gallon. I do like them both, though!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly man! That’s why they are a bit better in hard enduro. Lots of stopping!
@ethics3
2 жыл бұрын
I must say this video ( and the comments ) helped me some. Many years ago ( 1996 ) I was a very fast local expert rider locally . Formerly in the early 80 s i raced motocross and did very well , but life changes and I had to stop. When , later I saw " scrambles" I really wanted to give it a try as I grew up riding forest . I was near broke at the time , but i found am old 1980 KDX 175 ( Needed a crank ) and a 1981 KX 125 chassis . I installed the MX suspension on the KDX and entered my first scramble ( 4 hour partner event ) . The track owner took lap times the day before and apparently i set the fasted recorded even though I was just having fun... but it was the expert class for me. opps. We got a second in that first event ( my partner was a whiner and would drop down to 3 rd when he was out , making me have to catch up in my shifts ) After I rode all the team events alone and won all of them ( all scrambles were 4 hours in length ) I loved beating the new machines on my old Frankenstein Kawi . I once rode a xr 300 ( thunper racing kit) in a national and won my class but found it more difficult in the tight stuff . Now retired and about to move to Thailand in 2 years , and I have been invited to ride scrambles by some local chaps there. Most ride KLX 140 s and have a blast with those . They said I have to ride bikes like theirs , and while it would be nice to do this on a reliable , cheap fun bike like those , part of me wants to enter and win.. The thing is , I will be 58 yrs and since i have not ridden in many years , its unknown if my fitness and skill will come back . I think a competition 4 T is out simply because of the blazing hot weather there often . So many in the comments say their comp 4 t failed due to heat . These guy's KLX 's survive because they are not highly stressed race bikes . During the rainy season the tracks are often tight and technical but also have some seriously massive long hills . Yet , that bug in the back of my brain to win is always there. After seeing this video I am thinking of a 200 cc 2 stroke with fuel injection and electric start . Importing into thailand is out of the question due to the 200 % import duty BUT there is a KTM dealership near my wife's house there . My preference would be an air cooled 2 t enduro racer but none are made anymore .( less things to fail and lighter weight ) Hmmmm. Maybe i could restore an air cooled KDX 200 and ship it. The duty on an old used bike would be more manageable . As you can see , my mind is still all over the place on this. haha But thanks all for the info.
@tivancloete6960
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have won 3 trophies for hard enduro here in south africa 🇿🇦 with the legendary CRF230F. Never in my life would I find and ride any two stoke that can compare with that beast.
@hawaiidogoadventures9855
Жыл бұрын
It’s a super underrated bike for the right weight rider. I’m looking for something very similar but I’m 200lbs. I have a xr400r. Love that bike just looking for number 2 now.
@matiasmaldonado510
Жыл бұрын
Are you joking or are you serious, I'm a new rider and had a crf230f for over a year, but once I learned how to ride a bit more I sold it, because it is too heavy and slow, but is a good bike, what kind of bike were you competing against?
@tivancloete6960
Жыл бұрын
Had alot in my class. Alot of 250 2 strokes. And some 300. But the 230f was an awesome awesome bike. I've sold it now because I'm moving to a higher class. But as I said. I agree totally. Best enduro bikes are 4 strokes. Have a 250x now. Awesome bike. But will always remember my 230f.
@andy3d1
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t stop bing watching your channel!
@bikelife_317
2 жыл бұрын
As always, another awesome content Rich. Thank you man.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!!! 🙌🙌
@matthewmiller3639
11 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for the insight. I'm a 4 stroke guy, getting 2 stroke curious.
@1991enduro
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly prefer my 2t 300 beta great engine for enduro but has 4 stroke is for the faster longer rides that’s where a xr250r comes in handy can sit at 60 mph all day happily and does well in the forest 🌳
@Michael-kn2kw
2 жыл бұрын
I have a Husqvarna TE310R (last year before KTM) and I am still getting used to my Beta 300RE. The Husky is way more predictable for me, but the fuel injection, high comp 4 stroke nature and my lack of talent has me stalling it while the 2stroke Beta will tractor through and up. Unfortunately, that Husky cut its own radiator hose and I must have warped the head. Rebuilt the top end, but didn't send the top end off to get the cylinder plated and head decked, so it still is getting blow by and burning coolant. Guess I should be tearing that engine back down to have both bikes to ride instead of commenting!
@bigmac9634
2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for someone to talk about this as I have been learning to do more technical riding on my 2018 WR450f, sure it's a bit heavy with a lot of power but it doesn't deter me from giving it a go as I am a Yamaha man and they don't have any road compliant 2 stroke models, at least not here in Australia!. Thank you for confirming that my effort isn't going to waste, I have already started using the flywheel loading tip from one of your other videos and it has made getting up steep inclines and obstacles a breeze!
@gpaull2
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never understood why a rider would limit themselves to a single brand. I’ve seen the dominance of many brands and dealers come and go over the decades. This mentality really limits your options and fun for no good reason.
@ammonparker2620
2 жыл бұрын
I ride a '19 wr450. I'm better than my bros in the techy tight stuff and they all ride 250/300 2t. Like Rich was saying it's mostly the rider. I've owned 125/250/300 2t myself, I will say that the 450 takes the most energy to ride however.
@bigmac9634
2 жыл бұрын
@@gpaull2 I've owned multiple brands over the years and I have always preferred Yamaha, trust me when I tell you I don't care for 'options', I have plenty of fun and my WR is fit for purpose where I live.
@Tklatti01
2 жыл бұрын
The beginning hill you were on was Scooby at Wellsville. Man I didn’t know you were coming to my stomping grounds!
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Great riding out there!
@Tklatti01
2 жыл бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto yeas it is! Been going there since i was 11. Changed a lot over the yrs. But it an awesome place! MegsBraap and Busted knuckle films have been there also. Maybe next time your there!✊🏻💨💨
@jayeye4798
Жыл бұрын
Really great analysis by the guy who doesn't love to talk! Boils down to seat time, baby!
@donaldgrant9067
Жыл бұрын
Well done article and I won't argue with you about it. I prefer 2 strokes, but someone else may prefer 4 strokes. I guess it is like boxers and whity tighty's. Of course the 2 stroke are the boxers. It is freer to work with.
@MilkBugs
Жыл бұрын
Love watching you ride. Inspiring!
@akathecanadian
2 жыл бұрын
Especially with KTM building both stroke bikes so similarly, it’s really down to the rider what they can and can’t do on a bike, I ride an RMZ 450 and my friends ride Yz250x’s. We can do all the same things just I struggle more in some places, goes both ways
@davidawaters
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I feel like a lot of the 4 stroke guys have never ridden a modern 2 stroke, esp when they talk about torque/low end power, or fouling plugs, etc. I’ve been on 300’s for the last 8 yrs/two bikes, but am thinking of going to the 350 for the street legal and EFI aspects. I don’t ride on the street but for some trail systems a plate is really nice to have. We have all 4 of our Beta 2 strokes plated, but getting the license for them is a little sketchy.
@airindiana
6 ай бұрын
I was the other way. Only tried a small bore 2S. Very low bottom end. Tried a 350 KTM EXCF and holy shit. The shear grunt of the thing. It was like a battle tank at pulling. I really liked it. Never tried a 300 though. I’m only new to the sport.
@davidawaters
6 ай бұрын
@@airindiana 👍 I think you’d be impressed by the low end of a 300 as well. And it goes way lower rpm than a 350 will even run at before dying. They’ll almost stop turning and somehow stay running.
@josiahhughes3544
2 жыл бұрын
You were in Wellsville ? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😢 That’s right down the road from me . Please come back this summer. I’ll definitely sign up.
@Shultzchet
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 350 exc-f, and I believe it is the perfect bike for me, let me explain. I ride primarily desert races with some sprint enduros mixed in there, but because of the mostly high speed desert terrain the four stroke it probably better and more stable. I enjoy very technical terrain but like you said the average rider is not an expert, im working on a double blip and I could probably do it if I had more time to practice, bit needless to say I am not running nearly at the limits of this bike in most situations. I will say though that they do get hot, my fan frequently comes on even in the "high speed" trail riding in the heat of the desert. This usually happens most when trail riding in the spring and summer, and the races in my area they rarely hold in this time, if they do it is a shorter high speed race like a dual euro because it gets over 100. The only downside to the 350 exc if the power, it wouldn't be too difficult to fix this but I live in California where that is illegal, but racing desert i frequently find myself doing max acceleration and having another 15 horsepower would probably make a big difference because im racing with the 450s. My dad has the 350 xc and there is a noticeable difference in top end power, but there is also a big difference in tractorability, mine likes the lower rpms going up a hill much better, wich is why I thing the 350 exc is a excellent all around bike, for a loose hill climb the xc would probably be better than the exc just as far as pure uphill drag race style. I did try a 300 two stroke once, it was certainly different, not better or worse just different, it definitely felt lighter, but then again at the time I had my dad's old 03 450 mxc with like a 3 gallon tank on it so it was a pig. When I got my 350 I knew I was going with that engine because my dad had the 2018 xc and I raced it a few times, but what led me to the exc was being able to ride it to college and work, as well as across town more easily to hit the trails on the other side, my dad also has a 500, but I knew I didn't want that heavy of a bike. But I'm glad I went with the exc instead of the xc because the difference other than max power like gearing are very nice.
@adampetten1009
2 жыл бұрын
I bought a 450rx and it's a great bike but too much power and hard to control at low speed. Maybe a Yami wr or 450FX would be better with wide ratio. I had a YZ250 and loved it. I'm really on the fence of of getting a beta 300 x trainer. I do now realize the honda 450rx is a motocross bike with 18" wheel and kickstand, but I'm trying to get it more of a woods bike. (But would even think of taking it on hard enduro.) The near 0mph I think you are bang on!!! That's where I dislike my 450RX, I have geared down 2 teeth and will get my suspension made softer, after that I'll try a recluse
@PBmxer
2 жыл бұрын
Soon we will be talking about the ability of an electric dirt bike in hard enduro.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Very true..
@slintik
2 жыл бұрын
100% correct sir!Switched from husky fe350 to te250! 350 defo best universal...
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@jorgesobrinho1925
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the approach, here we can understand the difference
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@IDAHOJAKE
Жыл бұрын
when riding my kx450f with 2 stroke guys on technical single track. My 4stroke overheats easy without riding fast to cool it down. I’m nervous about 2 stork because I’m 6’4 265 lbs but seems newer 2s can handle all the power I need. Many say 450s are to big. I disagree. I’m big and been riding a 450 for 15 years. Maybe I need a 2s 350
@CoolEyeColorado
2 жыл бұрын
I ride a 4t EXC-f and take it everywhere! No issues
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@princeharry210
2 жыл бұрын
I ride a 250excf has 13/50 sprocket put a 12 52 on its a totally different machine for hard enduro but just like you say just over heats abit feels like the clutch can respond different at varying temps
@riders.oregon4474
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 250 TPI 2 stroke and a 250 4 stroke, both modern. With my mostly single track (with some big hill climbs ) the piston rings wear out faster on the 2 stroke.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting!!
@KoltFin
2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much what I've seen. 4 stroke costs more to rebuild but it lasts twice as long.
@Andy-co6pn
2 жыл бұрын
The ports in the 2 stroke cylinder gives the piston rings a tough time
@bikesbeersbeats
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Mine failed and destroyed the cylinder.
@tieoneon1614
2 жыл бұрын
Lower compression 250F's REALLY stall hard, you have to try to. If u turn the idle up a bit they will hill climb in second gear without throttle.
@flaviodesouza2120
Жыл бұрын
what do you think about clutch weight 300 grams, for 350 excf? less stall, more traction and more low end power?
@keshmo12
2 жыл бұрын
I always look at someone like Pol tares on his big yamaha T7 doing hard Enduro stuff. For the majority it's the riders ability. This past desert race I got passed by a ktm 1290 adventure bike. That guy was a beast though.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great point!!!
@joelaslanian1121
2 жыл бұрын
no hate here, love your videos and detailed instruction, thanks keep it up
@JDRELGOR
2 жыл бұрын
Surely it's down to rider ability and bike set up, including tyre choice ect.
@babar69110
11 ай бұрын
you could tell that four strokes have just high gravity center. Whatever the weight, the rotational mass and inertia, just compare height of 2 and 4 engines. 4S is much higher and more heavier on top... And we know it at the moment we have to pick up lying bike...This is IMHO the most important difference rarely mentionned. And this weight is even more at front bike too. For heat, you are talking about bikes which are tuned on the poor side. A 4S beta which is already rich tuned, with a rich fuel map doesn't overheat, you will overheat before :) But at the end, 4 strokes are always more intimidating and it is so easy to be behind the bike which starts to ride you ... :( But control it is a part of pleasure too, I guess
@toy924x4
Жыл бұрын
I only have a wr450 and enjoy it! Have ridden the Ktm freeride didnt really like the feel of it.
@viperracing2889
2 жыл бұрын
Would it be hard/expensive to modify a 2022 KTM 250 SXF into a decent enduro bike? I'm thinking it could work ok with an 18" rear wheel and lower gearing? I will not do any hard enduro or any super fast or technical stuff. Just ride a bit for fun on the local enduro track. Perhaps it would work as is even?
@miro_s
2 жыл бұрын
Well spoken!
@modernrider1398
2 жыл бұрын
Well trials bikes are four strokes and two strokes right?
@forcedconvection
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I've been debating between a Ktm 300 XC-W and a 500 EXC-F. Being street legal out the door had me leaning towards the 500 for greater versatility but had concerns about the super slow hard Enduro scenarios. This vid eases my mind. Do you think the radiator fan is enough to control temp on the 500 in hard Enduro scenarios?
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe two fans. 😂
@chrisoffersen
2 жыл бұрын
@Yo Joe I just started the same journey! The snow’s still melting here in the mountains, but I’m really looking forward to seeing how this 500 does in the tight n twisties. It absolutely screams down bumpy fire roads, and just plain roads, but yeah… wondering how it’s going to do in rocky single track.
@chrisoffersen
2 жыл бұрын
So, I actually had a choice between the 500 EXC-F and the 300 XCW TPI and, after a couple days (there’s not much time to think about a bike purchase here… they’re usually sold before they hit the floor) I chose the 500. I’ve got to ride 20 minutes or more on pavement to get to good trails, so that was a major consideration. In Colorado, 2 strokes can be street legal, and it would have cost ~$1000 to get that 300 up to code… but, buzzing down a road on a 2t …meh. I still wonder what this 500 is going to be like in technical trails… but it’s been a blast everywhere else so far (after break in of course).
@chrisoffersen
2 жыл бұрын
@Yo Joe Ahhh Thanks for the heads-up. I'll have to start practicing some front-squats!
@oly10676
2 жыл бұрын
I ride hard/extreme enduro on a 2007 400EXC (RFS) since i bought it. What eventually worked for me for overheating was the use of Evans waterless coolant and also trying not to over-rev the engine when slipping the clutch in the very technical stuff. Lower gearing helps for the latter (i use 14-52). Before that also used a radiator fan (with a stiffer radiator cap) but removed it as it was not as efficient as the waterless coolant, added weight and in very technical rides and hot weather it drained the battery. Needless to say you need a sticky tire for super slow hard.
@aaww2459
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering where in Ohio you put on the class? Also, do you still do them? Thanks
@MrLdvo
Жыл бұрын
I love my wr450f but in the desert trails I ride the engine heat literally makes me sick it's like an oven. It dehydrates me super fast, I'm seriously thinking in switching to two strokes. Plus my bike feel heavy for the rocky terrain I ride.
@dougiep8464
2 жыл бұрын
Graham Jarvis was winning on a FE250 while they were sorting out the 300tpi
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly right!!
@marcaldrinnvillanueva6344
2 жыл бұрын
I really don't care whether it's 4T or 2T coz I can only afford aircooled 4 stroke KLX 150BF. All I need now is a decent coach.
@JohnHowerton137
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Jarvis win Erzberg on a big ole Husaberg in 2013? Most of the modern 2T bikes outside the Pierre Group haven't made any significant technological changes since then, but the 4Ts have for sure.
@dirkellis9212
Жыл бұрын
Seems to me a matter of preference
@Rossi46Moore
2 жыл бұрын
250xc and a plated 350exc. Best combo in my opinion.
@JacobSnover
Жыл бұрын
He might not have won, but didn't Pol Tarres do Erzberg on a T7? That's over 400lbs, probably has a radiator fan to keep cool. Either way imagine that guy on 450 4t?
@1272Randb
2 жыл бұрын
Sherco 300SEF. Seems to have some of the downsides you mentioned improved compared to 350 ktm.
@trackpackgt877
2 жыл бұрын
I have a couple 4 strokes but that's because they're street legal Enduros I can ride them to work around town and still hit the dirt and trail ride love the tractor power of a 4-stroke that being said I grew up riding 2 strokes and there's just something about them the power band The Sound a friend of mine has a YZ 490 he's thinking about selling to me and I've looked into making it street legal it's definitely doable he warns me that I'll blow it up on the street but how cool would it be to have a street legal two stroke 490 suicide machine LOL
@houjous5131
Жыл бұрын
I may have asked this, I apologize if I did. Do you guys have a cc limit to your classes? I'm riding an 890, pushing her to act like a dirtbike. Edit: My bio has a link to my videos & pictures of your looking for my riding in context
@racerrick39
2 жыл бұрын
I won't hate on you for the 2T/4T thing. Nope. But I will because I can't pivot turn and you can apparently do them everywhere... ;)
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
lol!
@samcooper4984
Жыл бұрын
I will say age is a factor as I grew up on a 2 smoker but now I love my 4 banger just easier to ride. That being said I definitely don't ride hard enduro
@DadOffical
Жыл бұрын
Yes, 4 strokes get hotter but I find 4 strokes easier in hard enduro still because if I don't have momentum then I can just start at the bottom and chug up a rocky face.
@davidsteinhour5562
Жыл бұрын
I ride technical singletrack and general desert exploration, and I adore my FX350. If the terrain is slow enough that a 2t is better, I'd rather park the bike and hike or climb it.
@babar69110
11 ай бұрын
wise words
@tomasfaure1415
2 жыл бұрын
Hey rich, i have been in a debate myself, i i am between a 250 and 350 four strokes, (both) for a bit more of faster racing, waht do you thing i should i consider when making a choice?, i like to ride the dunes and fast enduro races, but we also ride mountains (not hard enduro but very steep) thanks this video helps alot
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a 350 Will better suite you’re style.
@mikebishop6095
Жыл бұрын
Is that a dual sport 350
@EnduroPilot
2 жыл бұрын
Well Four Stroke might be Equally Capable, even i ride a 4stroke n you motivate me alot ❤️
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@TwoWheelsMakesFun
2 жыл бұрын
Do you guys riding on a 150 tpi 2t? I'm rather beginner rider, don't drive on high RPM all the time but I need to change piston every 40 hours. Is is normal or something is wrong? Riding on a husqvarna te150i 2021. The oil pump gives 6 ml of oil for 60 seconds when i put it in pump deaeration mode.
@Scott-vr2vv
Жыл бұрын
What about a 1990 yamaha xt350?
@TS50ER
2 жыл бұрын
3:39 Is that true? A modern four revs quicker than a two?
@arnauddechamps855
2 жыл бұрын
having riding 2stroke for decades, tried recent 4stroke and they are a real deal. keep saying to my buddies, you can't double blip, splat...yet keep having 2 stroke...not really helping, a 4stroke would do better actually, the only thing is clutch control on the 4 stroke that tend to stall especially on double blip on the second gas, yet if you manage that they do the job pretty well and the 350 is lighter than the 300 actually, also much better fuel consumption. Both are good, yet now with tpi, if you do not reset your injection it runs too poor. cost is basically the same on a 4stroke and 2 stroke now a days (past 5 years).
@kuttinkuddy3905
2 жыл бұрын
I have a yzf250f that I ride hard enduro. But now I ride ktm 250exc 2 stroke that I find way better.
@rangerrider4eva
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think you contradicted yourself a bit, you are obviously a pro level rider the best advantage for newbs is that 0mph range in technical without killing it. I struggle on my 2T at high speed due to my comfort with the brake. I miss the compression when downshifting coming into corners at speed. I ride far better technical on my 300 and faster on a open with a 4 stroke.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
I see where it can seem like that. What I really meant was the average rider gets into these technical situations and really isn’t good enough regardless of the bike. They don’t have the throttle and clutch control to actually use the advantages of the two stroke. Anyway I agree your assessment.
@rowynmaddocks6731
2 ай бұрын
The four stroke flames out at low speed in technical sections so a newbee in the tech sections is going to fall on rocks etc two stroke is easy in tech
@rowynmaddocks6731
2 ай бұрын
Please note they are both good lovely bikes to ride the four stroke is an easier bike to ride but the 2 stroke is more demanding in nearly every way but more exiting i have both and under different conditions they both have advantages
@adambatchelder4121
2 жыл бұрын
If i where ridding say 3rd gear and up trails more , i would consider a 4 stroke.
@kiwi-moto
2 жыл бұрын
I lol'd when I saw the topic of the latest video.. here we go, the 2T guys will always have *something* to say about how they love their 2Ts and so should everyone else in the comments.. 😂 Horses for courses I say.. I've found the 4T excels at the faster speed trails, and the 2Ts being lighter are good for slogging up vertical walls and such.. Oh, and yes, while just about all the wheelie/log blippin/etc videos on KZitem feature 2Ts, I have found some good examples of 4Ts doing similar things (Tim Coleman/Chris Birch/Billy Bolt) so, it really comes down a lot to Rider SKILLs
@rodrigomoyano2234
2 жыл бұрын
Rich , we need a spanish translation 🥵 I have a 350 exc and I'm about to see the change to tpi Help !
@markiscool5
2 жыл бұрын
Why choose? Get both!!! 🤙🤙
@joethompson297
2 жыл бұрын
My very uneducated opinion is the 2-stokes are generally less weight and have a higher power to weight ratio
@billh4984
2 жыл бұрын
Let me sumerize 😁.....ride more, train harder, and with practice the amount of strokes between your legs is irrelevant. Let the anger begin!🤣🤣
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Boom!!! 🙌
@christophesergi7344
2 жыл бұрын
Sherco 300 SE-F can to do the hard Enduro! Better than 350 for the extrem! 🇫🇷👍
@swedishrick377
2 жыл бұрын
Are you related to Rod Serling? 😉
@alanwesterfield4254
2 жыл бұрын
A four stroke would be fine for hard enduro as long as someone else is footing the bill.
@chadrides914
2 жыл бұрын
If you ride 150hrs a season; from a Maintenance standpoint; a 4 stroke is the wrong choice.
@GeneMcEntire
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always, I feel the same way having gone back and forth between 300 2ts and modern 450s I can't hardly tell one has any advatange over the other accept for maybe on a MX track... maybe some day our paths here in UT will cross and I can pick your brain :) or maybe I can join one of your classes :) ...
@flingndirt_UT
2 жыл бұрын
Course I'm a cheater and run a rekluse on the 4t.....
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Hit me up! I do privates here in SLC!
@flingndirt_UT
2 жыл бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto I need to do that.. was just out at C Smith's place in eagle mtn and i spent a fair amount of time trying to follow your advice from your vids... That place has some crazy hard scary stuff..
@mikehemens9359
Жыл бұрын
This terrain you'd be better with a trials bike.
@Madtigertv
2 жыл бұрын
Yea maybe in a big field blipping logs and zap japping but in the real world hell no. We all know this, every racer knows this otherwise youd see more in the mix. That being said my Sherco 300sef was great in the trails and I almost podiumed on Kauai for our Labor Day Hare n hound.. B class tho. These bikes dont over heat and run like a champ in the heat. That being said it takes way more out of me in the ugly stuff to consider it over my 2t 300ser.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much like I said in the video.
@Madtigertv
2 жыл бұрын
@@IRCTireUSAMoto I guess? lol
@andrewsoldan6050
2 жыл бұрын
Best trial rider in World Toni Bou rides Montesa 4 stroke.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
He’s pretty awesome!
@cdwvids3583
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rich , you didn't factor in that 2T sound better 😃
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Def the sound I like!!
@SPCRacing1
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, 4-strokes are better to power a lawn tractor. Other than that, they have no place in any high performance vehicle.
@dirtbikesicehockey4788
2 жыл бұрын
Rich proves that it's more the rider then the bike.
@IRCTireUSAMoto
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a lot to do with the rider!!
@bradsanders6954
2 жыл бұрын
I guarantee if the 4 stroke was better at hard enduro all top pros would be on them..........as it sits none are.
@thealvaco
2 жыл бұрын
If the bike is easy to ride, it makes you ride it better.
@ervinpama7522
2 жыл бұрын
Like!
@johncamara1650
2 жыл бұрын
Tell Mike Lafferty, 8x national champion that the four stroke is better... he only rode the 4s because he was paid to.
@Agrolonger
2 жыл бұрын
Top riders of the Enduro Cross and Super Enduro use a 4 stoke. Top riders of the Hard enduro use a 2 stroke.
Пікірлер: 358