I'm amazed every time I see this woman play. Even aside from the left-handed style on a right-handed fiddle, she is able to make it sing. It's strange that her name isn't better known.
@joyoffiddling
6 жыл бұрын
No argument from me, Mel. I will say, that while I do NOT speak for all fiddlers, in all the years I've been around them I have not met a single one who took up the instrument and said..."I'm doing this because it's going to make me rich and famous." Most of us do it, because we cannot do without it. There is no narcotic or drink that matches the feeling of playing this music with our friends. Katrina is certainly very well known in our circles and if she were so motivated, I don't doubt she could raise her profile in the greater musical community. But she has a beautiful family, a ton of fiddle students, and ample opportunity to make music with friends and family. I think most folks would not trade that for anything.
@philnewton3096
5 жыл бұрын
OK- But playing on a non re- configured violin bridge,fingerboard, bass bar ,pegbox in classical music presents probs later in 1; rt hand access to high E string accuracy of intonation . 2Thing of body sumetry of instruments and human arms 3Mirror image and how the bow evolution of access to high and low strings 4 Cello and Bass- bowed .see 9 5 Early start on a boweb instrument -v important to teach ease of playing like breath in wind playing and singing 6 Fine motor control in confined space of upper fingerboard and the rt [or left] thumbs role as an anchor for fingering accurace and placement 7intonation of non-fretted instruments, 8 Shortest finger Pinky[4th little ,finger in uk] disadvantaged when reaching across to E string on non re-configures instrument, 9Note Cello /Double Bass are Gamba over Braccio .but retain the shortes 2 fingers nearest highest strings - 10 -what and could a left handed golfer use a right handed club? 11 why yare left handed configured scissors easier for left handers? 12 exceptions to the rule do`nt necessarily prove the general . 13 sights on a left handed fire arm or for a lh archer? 14 Judging the situation overall from a single type/example of string music? 15 If great facility is seen on conventially set up -rt hand ]violins by conventional players [rt handed ]of great virtuosity then is there evidence of the same skilllevel shown by left handed players on rightt handed instruments playing the same music? 16 interesting to analyse bowing movements with Lh and Rh players
@joyoffiddling
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Phil. For the record, I would never suggest that Katrina's way is the "right way" for any other left handed fiddlers. It's simply the right way for her.
@johnsmith-sv1vr
5 жыл бұрын
@@joyoffiddling not to mention she is one of, if not the winningest contest fiddler of all time.
@adirondackcomposer
3 жыл бұрын
@@joyoffiddling I can tell from her playing and jam site demeanor that she's a wonderful person.
@johnsmith-sv1vr
6 жыл бұрын
Her unique style is remarkable. Watching her play lefty if mind boggling. She has a groove which is undeniably her own and I've watched this video more than any of the camp Sumner videos so far. Great video and kudos to one of the very best fiddlers out there!
@johnsmith-sv1vr
6 жыл бұрын
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@philnewton3096
5 жыл бұрын
Groove ?What does she do to get the same flow as conventional right hander on a right handed instrument?
@Sybotica
4 ай бұрын
@@philnewton3096 the strings are reversed so she has a really even beat with an implied shuffle. Some "up-bow" fiddlers have it too.
@philnewton3096
4 ай бұрын
@@Sybotica whats bowing got to do with string configuration?
@Sybotica
4 ай бұрын
@@philnewton3096 I had a huge reply, but when I tried to see the conversation it was erased. Basically a good fiddler will lift their arm to compensate for the string difference. To have the best plane for attack, tone, etc. Having the strings reversed subtly changes the weight of the pulse and often the bowing direction, in my experience listening and watching reverse fiddlers. And guitar players for that matter.
@bucknuts6762
9 жыл бұрын
its not right lol that i can get out of bed and turn this video on and be dancing before i even have a coffee lol , love it awesome
@joyoffiddling
9 жыл бұрын
***** That is one of the most gratifying comments the Joy of Fiddling channel has ever received. (I will pass it along to Katrina and the rhythm section) Thank you for stopping by and do come back anytime, because...YOU...are the people...for whom these videos are being made.
@bucknuts6762
9 жыл бұрын
Joy of Fiddling that is one tight rhythm section, awesome players, looking forward for more of this wonderful playing
@johnsmith-sv1vr
6 жыл бұрын
Oh Katrina!!! 😁😃😎😅😆
@johnsmith-sv1vr
6 жыл бұрын
I hear ya too Matt!! 😅
@johnsmith-sv1vr
6 жыл бұрын
Try to be depressed while listening to this! I dare ya!! 😂
@johnsmith-sv1vr
6 жыл бұрын
Just another time listening to this amazing video! Katrina is special no doubt. 2 tenors and 2 standards.. Sounds phenomenal. Hats off to the accompanists in this video as well. Watch Ann throughout these sessions. Just amazing! (You're great too Scott!) 😆
@joyoffiddling
6 жыл бұрын
A and S say "Hey" John. Ever modest Anne added: "Scott is by far the better rhythm player and taught me most everything".
@johnsmith-sv1vr
5 жыл бұрын
@@joyoffiddling Anne is the epitome of rhythm guitar. I have memories of Rex Guillentine and Jerry Thomason. Michael Henderson (May He RIP.) So many beautiful heroes. Bart Trotter will always be one of mine.. I love this channel. Thank you and God Bless You for everything you do to keep it going. 👊🔥💙
@johnsmith-sv1vr
5 жыл бұрын
@@joyoffiddling Ever modest she will always be. I'm humbled just to watch her play
@johnsmith-sv1vr
5 жыл бұрын
@@joyoffiddling Scott is so much fun! Anyone that does not know he's brilliant is lost in the cosmos!
@joyoffiddling
5 жыл бұрын
Anne say's you're on the payroll, John. : )
@chrispy104k
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, great music. I stumbled across this channel after watching a video from Abby The Spoon Lady and her version of Arkansas Traveller with the Tater Boys. Went searching for other versions. Katrina makes that fiddle take on life of it's own. Fabulous.
@joyoffiddling
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, chrispy-wa. Thanks for sharing how you found us. I'm always curious about the path folks "stumble" along to land at the Joy of Fiddling channel, and may I say I am honored that "Abby the Spoon Lady" is partly to blame. And indeed, Katrina knows her way around 4 strings and a bow.
@hiimannabelle1091
2 жыл бұрын
Katrina is my fiddle teacher amazing, she sure is
@johnsmith-sv1vr
11 ай бұрын
Who can stay away from this?? ❤
@Epsilon1247
7 жыл бұрын
How did it take me this long to see these videos? they are awesome!
@joyoffiddling
7 жыл бұрын
I don't know Josiah, where you been?! ; ) Welcome to the Joy of Fiddling channel. Glad you found us.
@brookslouise2877
6 жыл бұрын
absolutely : it's a great discovery for me
@joyoffiddling
6 жыл бұрын
Happy to have you, Ms. Brooks.
@philnewton3096
5 жыл бұрын
Hello Mel. I ve taught strings for 25 yrs -played for 75 and still learning myself at 80 this year! So -yes -What is the `right` way? If we look at the evolution and convention of the strings layout or order of high to low or low to high pitch and the to give ease of efficient access by the the shot to long or long to short fingers -whether right handed or left handed, Then we look at the evolved historical layout over centuries of the fingerboard and bridge curvature /slope to accesss this in the hight E string positions as well athe the right or left hand thumb to act as an anchor for these heights,then could it be reasonably assumed that achiving good musical results without these facilities is of great merit by the individual but is /was it necessary ?Why invert and inhibit access to the strings in this way when virtuosity over time has proved -using the conventioan way works and proves its own efficiency? Not forgetting the difference in vibration /ampitude of the G compared to the E having to be considered in dfferent clearances and finger pressure in stopping. Also lets not forget the Up and Down bow move,ents in orchestrals ensembles and composers requirements and instructions for low to high attack in chords needing a down bow -only achieved by a left handed bowing action by having the G on the right hand side -from the players viewpoint- Fascinating conversation As the athletes foof is the shape that it is and the shoe developed asi t has -would t be of an advantage to swap?If so I d be glad to be convinced. An exaple of an Indian golfer who played right handed with right handed clubs but used a left handed grip -Left under right--exceptions do occur - Donating a bow and violin to a keen child is , as I ve come to consider ,as avery complex and responsible act .
@delilablack5921
4 жыл бұрын
Terrific.
@brookslouise2877
6 жыл бұрын
wonderful player !
@johnshore6318
3 жыл бұрын
She sure can saw one!!!
@johnsmith-sv1vr
11 ай бұрын
Could you imagine her and Terry jamming together? That's a thought.
@LadyNesrin97
7 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@philnewton3096
2 жыл бұрын
phil newton 1 second ago Have her fiddle bridge and fingerboard and internal bass bar and soundpost been modified in curvature and position ?-Because the violin evolved for right handed[bowing] players having ease of access to high positions
@joyoffiddling
2 жыл бұрын
Hey @phil newton. So, I touched base with Katrina about your question and the following is her reply: "My bridge is standard (right handed curve) also my sound post is standard because I don't string it backwards and the base bar is also standard because it's strung right handed. If I played a left handed fiddle it would make sense to have them all switched but that would mean it would have to be custom made for a left handed stung violin." KN
@philnewton3096
4 ай бұрын
I had a local dealer reconfigure it for me.
@johnsmith-sv1vr
5 жыл бұрын
Back again. (Duh!) 😂 Please tell Ann that since I'm currently on " The Payroll" I just need one set of Martin Marquis strings, medium please. 😂😂😂🤣
@joyoffiddling
5 жыл бұрын
Will relay that message to Mrs. Sumner, John.😉 You know you are welcome back anytime.
@philnewton3096
4 ай бұрын
But lifting the right( bow) arm and high elbow to reach and power the tone of the heaviest string ( G) needs the strongest pull away from the instrument. That's why it evolved in 400yrs to be on the left of the player side .Now the most delicate string ( E) to play on evol ved to the players right therefore. So to equally maintain this evolutionary efficiency therefore , left handed bowing needs a mirror image of string layout.
@philnewton3096
4 ай бұрын
Id like to add that my 2 student concertos ;Mozart G maj op 216 and Max Bruch G min both start with strong down bow G string high power arm weight -The Moz with a strong G maj 4 string down bow chord and Max Bruch with a powerful open G followed by an arpeggio theme rising to the high |E where E string theme fingering is uninhibited by other strings in the way.These both begin with a raised right arm at the frog ,ready to fall. My surname[ accociated with a famous 16c natural physicist of gravity and ergonomic theories fame ] has not hindered my curiosity with musical kinaesthetics!
@StevieD1
5 жыл бұрын
Hot damn!
@joyoffiddling
5 жыл бұрын
Well said, StevieD1. Concise and to the point.
@philnewton3096
5 жыл бұрын
If its easy to ascend to the highest notes on the e string with the left hand on a right handed player using conventional GDAE tuning then how can a left handers right hand ascend the same string on an unaltered right strung instrument without touching the g at the same time when reaching across -Could someone demonstrate to me please ? thanks
@joyoffiddling
5 жыл бұрын
All I can tell you, Phil, is that it came completely naturally to Katrina. No one forced this way of playing fiddle on her. It was how she chose to play starting from a very early age. It may be visually jarring for those used to seeing only right handed fiddlers play on right handed fiddles. But Katrina has won the National Fiddler's championship numerous time and I can assure you, she does not feel hindered or disadvantaged in the least.
@johnsmith-sv1vr
11 ай бұрын
I hear ya Matt 😂😂
@philnewton3096
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks -Before my reply 1/2 vanished I was trying to describe that since childhood language acquisition I was fiddling concurrently and that to explore was to lear by enjoying through the ears before any digital was invented. So the impression if any of my "thinking "is misleading, Im sure the wider population of fiddlers looking at how she overcomes the differences of Left to rt handed playing and combines will fascinate generations of teachers . into being sympathetic with the obvious question as to why all right handed players play GDAE tuning and yet some left handers play on the same tuning?Is this an overlook ?Bowing power of downbows would be immediately spotted as a disadvantage in a orchestra .
@philnewton3096
4 ай бұрын
Power G maj down bow orchestral chords for instance. What & how would a right hand bower do?
@philnewton3096
4 ай бұрын
Pardon me ... a left hand bower I meant !
@gavsrcnstuff4598
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm learning to play fiddle the same way as Katrina being a lefty, I'm wondering if she altered the bridge so E & A are sitting slightly higher, its hard to see in the videos, btw loving these thanks for posting.
@joyoffiddling
3 жыл бұрын
@Gavs RC nStuff, glad you found and are enjoying the Joy of Fiddling channel. I confirmed with Katrina that she plays on a standard bridge and has not altered it in anyway. And just to confirm that you know, she is playing a regularly stringed fiddle...she did not reverse the strings because she plays left handed. Some people watching her videos don't notice this at first.
@gavsrcnstuff4598
3 жыл бұрын
@@joyoffiddling Many thanks to you both for the quick reply, as a lefty you spot these things pretty quick, be it players in music or sport etc, I'm doing the regular right string way as Katrina, I've only changed the chin rest position, thanks again.
@joyoffiddling
3 жыл бұрын
Anytime @@gavsrcnstuff4598 . Always happy to reply to questions if we've got a good answer.
@philnewton3096
4 ай бұрын
2 Questions 1- How do you negotiate from low G arpeggi positions to high and back at speed? [such as in the Mendelssohn Concerto cadenza] 2- why was the the bridge lowered[ since 1500 ]on one the E side and high on the G side[ from the players view point ] ?
@philnewton3096
5 ай бұрын
So,then, may i ask. why do left handed people request scissors be adapted for them?
@joyoffiddling
5 ай бұрын
Because, right handed scissors don't work as well when used in the left hand?
@philnewton3096
4 ай бұрын
Principles of mirror image symmetry apply to bowing the same as for scissors left hand drive motor cars and golf clubs,cricket, ; that is, adaptation to the same ease of access enjoyed by right handers. Note an apocryphal theory of right handed swordsmen, when meeting ,head on , adversary by taking to the left roadside for protection.
@philnewton3096
5 жыл бұрын
Its a miracle how she negotiates the upper e.a with the 1st and 2nd 3rd 4th fingers of the right hand when they lie on the opposite side of the fingerboard to that of a right handed player playing on a right hand strung instrument like hers.The only thing I can say is that she has accommodated her rt hand for the enoremous stretch across to reach those hight notes -The question is -could she play with an instrument strung EADG [looking down from the players view] where her 1st finger[rt hand in her case ] on e would be adjacent to the left hand side of the neck ?The mirror image for a rt hander is with this ease of access evolved into standard practice of generations The only explanation I can offer is that out side of bluegrass she would have difficulties in shifting to high positions one A and E in quantum.in an orchestra or in violin concerti.
@joyoffiddling
5 жыл бұрын
Well, Phil, I think your musical training is a lot more extensive than mine and so I don't think I have anything to add to the specifics of your comment. But I might suggest, take off that thinking cap for a minute and put on some headphones and just enjoy the music.
@philnewton3096
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment -Well my formal violin training started 10 yrs after Id satisfied my curiosity with my Dads violin [from the Somme via his older WW1 brother ]and piano playing by competing and copying.-We were both right handed as it happened -engaged with lots of woodwork tools in the cellar [Sawing straight !] so my straight bowing never needed to be taught in the private lessons he sent me to later.I got on with Kayser Mazas etc studies; balanced with melodies [English Irish Scottish]Being aged between 10 to 13 I in the early 50s the incentive to progress at school subjects was different --then.No-- free lessons at school then and performing was for Sunday afternoons with my Dad on piano for Granny or an uncle and aunt.[Montis Czardas and Melodie in F]However as my dad had seen and related seeing 192os cinema orchestras and Sergai Rachmanniov play at the Liverpool Philharmonic he and my sister took me to the Phil Concerts which I found a bit loud at the front I played for a 1 off jun school casual xmas soiree.1947 But then after the war ,childrens music making was seen differently where I lived. So I had no musical vocational ambitions to music .At age 13 I went to a Junior Tech school which lead to a secure [proper job/apprenticeship ?] in the military industrial complex for 5 years.During that time at the onset of 1956/7 Liverpool rock and roll I witnessed green grimy overolled apprentices in an empty factory strike ,trying out a cello washboard guitar and drums I think.They weren't aware of a concert grand piano standing on the canteen floor below them. Then the urge to train as a music teacher -not a draftsman/technician- started and get an arts education -not fiddling -though -And via mature age grants got to coll and to Uni -for music and German Not re audition to the Phil orchestra either -No regrets either there.After 25 years of classroom FE and violin teaching Im now applying bowing to blowing on clarinet -A beginner again but a discovery journey.Iv been with many pedagogue string teachers on enjoyable coursesin string teaching from basic to advanced -If there is such a difference .So I hope to allay and put to rest any academic pedantic approach impression on my part -If that's the impression then its not intended.The nearest to "thinking " that came up was from a Kato Havas lesson I had was "stop giving yourseld wrist tenosynovitis by staring at the music -use the ear to hear the drama of a minor third-stop forcing the music into your wrist via the eyes -play it on the piano first" Cured after 10 years and retirement and playing bluegrass!The problem for me with enjoyment through headphones its too passive. I was brought up in Wartime DIY home activity as a form of relaxing whilst enduring austerity -with Beethoven from a 78 shellac disc and acoustic my dads non digital violin and piano! Thank you for you sentiments but my curiosity as to how it is done is even more intense -Perhaps I ll sit back when I know. best p
@philnewton3096
5 жыл бұрын
my reply has been erased -phil
@philnewton3096
5 жыл бұрын
Im curious as to how does she do it?
@philnewton3096
2 жыл бұрын
Im lead to assume that her smooth negotiation of 3rd position with its string crossings before and after 1;23/3;32 is exceptional and ; To her solely . Id like to be convinced if such negotiation could be eventually achieved by beginner left handed players using a conventionally strung instrument - See my observations about Kreutzer studies going up to 5th position and beyond on E; The sheer distance needed to reach high E string notes by traversing the GDA strings by a the right fingering hand is formidable - That why conventional stringing and fingering leaves the high 2 strings at the end of a down bow chord-The cello and bass are exceptions to this because of their proximity to the floor. The factors of bridge arch and the finer board arch favoring a close E string proximity with the wide clearance of the G string to the fingerboard seem to have been kept- But at what cost? -Is not the down bow stroke and its effectiveness not compromised as a result together with ease of up and down bow and slurred string crossing [Bariolage- www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBGB857GB857&sxsrf=ALiCzsb_Zb9sZgKUKIsagxKwfaz9dejtBg:1663974047077&q=bariolage&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwji-Pavgqz6AhU4QkEAHXlzB9QQBSgAegQIAxA2&biw=1366&bih=625&dpr=1#imgrc=KuQzyW2eG7puCM ]?
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