Yep i just bought 4 fuji apple amd 2 granny green apples and 5 of 6 i had to pretty much shake apart 70% of the root ball to free the root system. But now i know that 3-4 yo trees should not be bought in a 3 gallon pot. Lesson learned. I just hope they do well.
@bead9609
5 жыл бұрын
it is so troubling, you can't trust anyone any more. I bought a very expensive Japanese lace leaf maple and it was so root bound.... not sure if it will be surviving and on the receipt it was written no return on any plants. I have learned a lesson.
@nataliespencer1324
4 жыл бұрын
Did the tree survive?
@bead9609
4 жыл бұрын
@@nataliespencer1324 Yes, I had to take the tree out and rehydrate it in a bucket of water and free and trim some of it roots. Thanks for asking.
@importantnottimely
5 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks Nick!
@cerberusbonsaiarboricultur774
4 жыл бұрын
1stly, it's AWESOME to see you're into trees outside the usual context (I know you from splicing & treebuzz, I'm 'eyehearttrees' there, have hyperlinked your name to my most recent thread seeking advice on doing a tapered back-splice, like Teufelberger does!) Second, this crape...the idea of cutting a well-matured root like that is completely unnecessary from a horticultural/good-husbandry point of view, I promise (I've done bonsai for a while and crapes are only 2nd to bougainvilleas as my most-hacked-up specie, I don't mean 'fail' hacks I mean taking larger specimen than what you're showing here, chopping them to 1.5' tall stumps and growing-in new canopies, it's really incredible what you can do with them!) IF this were a for-show tree then some would make aesthetic arguments because it's a flaw to have a tree that shows any signs of having been in a container (which is why the root did the classic container-encircling - BTW I wouldn't be so quick to call it a 'fault' of the nursery, root-bound-ness is part&parcel for how retailing plants goes, you can certainly find retailers who are going to up-pot as-necessary but they've gotta charge way more for such care and 9/10 consumers aren't interested in that), I've seen guys remove a root like that from a bonsai for aesthetic reasons however it's ONLY aesthetic reasons and it *most definitely* hurts the tree, no matter how mal-formed that encircled root looks, the reality is the trunk and remainder of the nebari/flare/buttressing is "taking into-account" the odd form of that root, they all 'grow as one' and in-time you won't even see that thing so much! At the end of the day, I can assure you the cambium in that mal-formed root is functioning A-OK, it is solely an aesthetic concern and, unless that's set to be a super fancy specimen tree (which I can tell it's not!), then hacking that root would be a bad choice (as it's horticulturally harmful for an aesthetic benefit, an unnecessary/pointless move to make for a generic in-ground/yard Crape) What USDA zone is that in? I'm in 10a (mid-FL, Tampa area, semi-tropical greenhouse environment) so I know they're more resilient here but it is amazing what Crapes can handle, sure they can get shocks and are relatively-quick to lose leaf-integrity at such times (not bad but relative-to other species, under severe stressors) but they bounce right back as quick as anything except maybe bougainvilleas, actually the 2nd tree I ever collected was a big fat Crape maybe 10" wide trunk, thing is well on its way to being a great, large bonsai right now after a few years of growing-in a new canopy on the lil stump :D If you're more into trees (aesthetically/not-arborist stuff) it'd be awesome to see you post some stuff (and would be awesome, in-general, for you to update your splices-by-nick site ;D Am actually planning to buy one of the pre-mades you've got, the elastic foot-loop is something I can'nt take my eyes off I just can't think of where I'd use it (don't know how to footlock, should probably learn that :P ) (will say that the rocking is odd - but that much time in the ground is MORE THAN enough for the roots to work themselves out - no amount of root-boundedness is an impediment once it's in good soil and that soil is obviously fluffy-as-hell. One thing I kept thinking is that if it wasn't irrigated sufficiently is that most of the roots may not be there --- I know you know this but once in-ground, roots spread horizontally very fast and the feeders are on the ends of those....I'm unsure how well they cared for the tree, and how well it's planted Re sunlight exposure / wind exposure etc, or the quality of the soil there, BUT "root restriction" isn't the cause of the poor growth however they've mentioned there's a fungal infection and these things are aphid magnets so would bet dollars-to-donuts that some daconil & bayer 3-in-1 (the real version, w/ neonic's!) would be enough to get things under control and, once spring comes, it'd be able to grow healthily again -- would love to hear an update of what ended up happening with this guy, hope he was left-in and treated as it'd be so much simpler than replacing him, if replaced I would've tried scooping-up that trunk to make into a bonsai LOL ;D )
@FreeFallinTrees
5 жыл бұрын
That was dang informative. Now the question is, when you are planting a tree purchased from a nursery, should you expose and examine the root ball for these kinds of problems, or plant it with the dirt intact, hoping for the best?
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