Of course I went directly to their argument about persicaria. A charming couple. I wish my spouse would've been an enthusiastic gardener as I am. I loved their conversation. Alexandra, your videos are treasures in many ways.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@josanders4051
3 жыл бұрын
Thats is the most beautifullest border I have ever seen. I hope some one is helping to finance this. I know I could not afford it.
@dogblessamerica
3 жыл бұрын
@@josanders4051 They're running a nursery so not short of plants or the knowledge of how to propagate them!
@ammorales1524
3 жыл бұрын
My husband and I also argue on things about the garden but mostly on potted plants. He said I have too many pots here and there and he wants simplicity, but I always find a way to convince him or rearrange the pots once in a while.😊
@nspector
3 жыл бұрын
"Alexandra, your videos are treasures in many ways." Yes yes yes.
@stevef1264
3 жыл бұрын
What a stunningly beautiful border & keep the persicaria it fits in so well
@777greglee
3 жыл бұрын
I love how generous your videos are, both in length and knowledge. You give great people enough time to really explore ideas. Thank you!
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@andrewyoung7692
Жыл бұрын
agree
@meredith3588
3 жыл бұрын
Persicaria should stay!!! What fun that discussion was! Thank you, Alexandra, for this video. I put in a new border 2 yrs ago and every year I feel it needs reworking as I am not quite satisfied with it's look. Love your videos, as I always get great tips for my garden.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@adelacozlac366
3 жыл бұрын
I think Persicaria should stay too! Actually, I think that is the pleasure of gardening, every year it looks different and it is allwaaaays a work inn progress!
@dianwilliams239
3 жыл бұрын
Keep the lovely Persicaria but add something to brighten the scheme 🇦🇺
@merrillmcnicholas3385
3 жыл бұрын
Another TERRIFIC video-you hit it out of the park with this one. Extremely useful information on plant combinations, contrast with different plants and specific info on plant heights and how to make it work in the border. I will be watching this a few times to get inspriation and rock solid advice on borders. Steve did mention a garden in the Netherlands that they visited and found useful. I couldn't make out the name-would you be able to relay that to me? I did enjoy "when gardeners don't agree on a plant"- little bit of disagreement with valid points both sides and ending with some compromise (to be reviewed later). Well done Alexandra!!!!!!!
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It was Bob Foltz's garden Tuinguoed Foltz: www.tuingoedfoltz.nl/
@FraserValleyRoseFarm
2 жыл бұрын
I'm on the side of "never too much color" - maybe someday my eye for it will mature! Great video.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. And colour in gardens is certainly wonderful, my own garden colour isn't as disciplined as this one.
@trishsantos2485
3 жыл бұрын
Alexandra, you are an absolute gem among youtube gardeners! A pleasure every week to learn from you, from your own personal experience, and from the many gifted gardeners you interview. Thank you for your excellent work.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@SB_McCollum
3 жыл бұрын
The persicaria needs a lime green near it, something tart to brighten up its sangria/berry fruit vibe. It has a lot of pinks and burgundies around it, they all could stand some contrast.
@mt2766
3 жыл бұрын
The Persicaria looks great there! And, I bet it would be a lovely complement in the tropical garden, too. Do both!
@deano1018
3 жыл бұрын
I’m with Lou on the Persicaria . It looks lovely in the boarder. I hope she can persuade Steven. Thanks for another wonderful video!
@ToniMedwedew
3 жыл бұрын
Good choice of the Persicaria, it compliments the other plant and softens the colours around it and it's a good filler imo 😀
@ToniMedwedew
2 жыл бұрын
@William Rogard Hello William, Thank you for your message. My home is in Australia.
@juliabinford6500
3 жыл бұрын
Lovely border! I’m of the mind that each person is going g to find respite and beauty in different plant combinations. If it’s your own garden, you really shouldn’t have to see something you detest. Life is hard enough, without adding something that makes you unhappy 🙁
@joycecooper3290
3 жыл бұрын
Loved the conversation Alexandra, Iots of really good tips. The Persicaria I think should stay.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you - it'll be interesting to see!
@sarahbarton2089
3 жыл бұрын
No. I didn't like the Persicaria in that position and colour combination. Probably better elsewhere.
@jeanrae2171
3 жыл бұрын
Persicaria should stay! Great video, Alexandria. We LOVE when you visit gardens!
@mimi27513
3 жыл бұрын
Great one! I’d love to see the plant names drawn out on paper in the way they are in the border to use as a guide.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea, might be difficult to achieve, but I'll certainly bear it in mind for the future.
@lulajohns1883
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I would as well.
@Edu_Kate
3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to know the name of the nearby plant that has pale pink flowers. They look like grass seed heads.
@mslauriebelle1
2 жыл бұрын
@@Edu_Kate Me too! I’m reading comments to see if it appears anywhere.
@leighjames8390
2 жыл бұрын
@@Edu_Kate It reminds me of Armeria Maritima ( sea thrift )..very similar looking.
@hivicar
3 жыл бұрын
The gardener said, "a place to escape and enjoy the world." I LOVE THAT!
@inglishhomeandgarden8386
3 жыл бұрын
Magnificent borders, and a very inspiring and helpful episode. Thank you! - Oh, and the Persicaria should stay! (Just give it a couple of new neighbours.)
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@rspruill1422
3 жыл бұрын
NJ USA hardiness zone 7 - A lot of great tips in this video I'm gonna have to rewatch it and take some notes I specially love the phrase "garden editing". Thanks for sharing!
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@nelidascott6917
3 жыл бұрын
What a gem of a post as usual ! Lots of lovely information and entertainment ! Thanks Alexandra ! 😊
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@monawolfe
3 жыл бұрын
What a cute couple! Even arguing over plants has a romantic element to it. Nice border! Typical gardeners challenge is “fitting” in the things they really would love to grow & experience with the micro climate, what is accessible to them and what’s already there. It’s like a puzzle we are all always trying to work out.
@heidis3993
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos so far. I am impressed, and convinced, by their idea of growing what they sell, and thereby also providing their customers with an example of mixing colors, textures, and heights.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
It does seem like a great idea to be able to see plants growing in a border situation.
@p.h.c.1113
3 жыл бұрын
Loved the discussion at the end, and what a lovely border! I would leave it there and just edit around it or something.
@jennifersauer3257
3 жыл бұрын
Leave the persicaria. Perhaps I’m the odd one out, but it was that cosmos that really bothered my eye. The bloom color was too brown red for me. The foliage, however, was spot on. 🤷♀️ Alexandra, this is the best design and planting instructional video you’ve produced! Steve and Lou are fantastic. I wish I lived closer to Kent. LOL.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@maryk1668
Жыл бұрын
The “argument “ about the persicaria was so sweet and void of nastiness. Really enjoyed it! Total respect for each others opinions .
@wyominghome4857
Жыл бұрын
I love the border here (and, yes, the Persicaria should stay). My Zone 4 issues are short growing season, clay/rocky soil, and lots of deer, so it's going to be a challenge. Still, there are quite a few plants and grasses that are options. My main focus is on low maintenance. I had a garden for many years in hot/humid Virginia that used up every spare minute weeding and spraying and pruning. It was beautiful, but way too much work. My current plan will incorporate low evergreens and large boulders for winter interest, and tall grasses, which I have never used before. I've decided it also has to accommodate a large thorny shrub rose (Blanc Double de Coubert). The plan gets started this spring. Taking notes. :)
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@l.a.w.79
3 жыл бұрын
I’m building my flower border slowly and I literally just threw my plants together with no real clue of what I’ve been doing. I just like flowers 🌺
@eileenmc8808
3 жыл бұрын
That's me too! It usually looks better than my "second thoughts" anyhow😅
@jakebe4915
3 жыл бұрын
What a show! The Brits sure know how to create magnificent gardens. Greetings from Pennsylvania.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@constantinaolstedt
3 жыл бұрын
Loved the hot argument! Persicaria just needs more contrast behind it, something architectural and dark...so impressed with this garden and the inspiring couple. Cheers from Stockholm Sweden 🤗🥀🌻
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lindahyatt3935
3 жыл бұрын
I, too, loved the debate about the persicaria. She's right, of course. This was a fabulous video. Alexandra, I just love your channel and watch everything. I am gardening on Vancouver Island, Canada (zone 8b).
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@lindahyatt3935
2 жыл бұрын
@Christopher Johnson Hello! I'm from mid Vancouver Island, Courtenay - just north in a small farming area.
@dalereid4199
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing content
@basicbaroque
3 жыл бұрын
Very good tips. I'm planting an area by a privacy hedge, so it gives me some good ideas on how I want things to look.
@adrabruzzese7610
3 жыл бұрын
Such a cute couple. I say it should stay. Thanks Alexandra for showing us their beautiful border.
@laurelsayer7557
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent this week, generating so many ideas
@jillismyname
3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I love the debate at the end! And of course, that is a beautiful border! Alexandra, I would love some tips on striking a balance for creating interest in the wintertime too.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Great idea, I must start looking around as it will be on us, soon.
@TheImpatientGardener
3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous video! I love this philosophy. Very inspiring, and I love to see those dahlias worked into that sort of natural border.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@NJGardengirl1961
3 жыл бұрын
I think the persicaria should stay! I'm happy that this came up as a suggested video. I'm am a geek when it comes to perennials. 😁
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@regedmonds9099
3 жыл бұрын
outstanding advice!
@paulinewqi
3 жыл бұрын
A 100m long border which is rather deep too!...?they are so lucky to have such ample land space to plan and play with their choice of plants. What a feast of border plants and glorious flowers... Thanks so much for sharing this tour of the NoName Nursery border. Of course, thanks to Steve for very interesting and informative talk...🌻 Thanks...💝💐
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@josanders4051
3 жыл бұрын
The only thing is I would of loved to see it put in the ground. From the start of the idea to tbe compleating of it to now. Beautiful anyway.
@markremaley5217
3 жыл бұрын
Can you show the jungle garden. I also like the plant debate. Do more of those.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Hope to do the jungle garden one day, too.
@alice_rabbit8345
3 жыл бұрын
I think it should stay!!
@margaretwalsh1456
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alexandre for another great video...very informative...so much to learn still at 74yrs..!
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@MoonLightOnWater1
Жыл бұрын
This was such an interesting video. This gentleman was so enthusiastic! It was contagious!
@jillgaddis3889
3 жыл бұрын
Love the borders! Keep the persicaria and plant complimentary larger leafed plant behind it.
@verawallace9055
3 жыл бұрын
He's so right about the Soil ,I have to fixed mine a daunting task if you ask me
@catherinedugan8065
3 жыл бұрын
Great insights - love their beautiful boarder and the challenge to think of flower last when deciding what to put in. Thank you
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@amybeatty5526
Жыл бұрын
The argument... I'm not a fan of that area, the area is too similar in color and height compared to the other zones of their border. Keep it or get rid of it doesn't matter. That area needs height and some color variation other than a middle green and red varieties.
@drawyrral
3 жыл бұрын
The Persicaria stays.
@Onthesummit
3 жыл бұрын
The Persicaria is a great looking plant, but needs to be moved somewhere more appropriate. Doesn’t look good there.
@chrispetersen6402
3 жыл бұрын
What a stunning garden!
@vivianmadden7313
3 жыл бұрын
Ita a beautiful plant! I think it would look awesom in both places!!
@karencski711
3 жыл бұрын
I agree that the problem with the Persicaria is the location and companion plants. I think it needs something dark behind it. Would love to see how that situation develops! Great episode!
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@charlesprice925
3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully filmed. Endless subjects from which to produce artwork.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@auggiesmomma1
2 жыл бұрын
The whole video was such a good segment and interview. You must go back at another time of year. Thank you!
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@kimberleyscammell8370
3 ай бұрын
I agree. Id love to see it in another season.
@danjanharris9089
3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful design tips!
@deborahelmore5554
2 жыл бұрын
Give the plants two or three years and then reevaluate. I like it. The color and texture are beautiful, but yes, the background needs color/height help. The border is gorgeous.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
2 жыл бұрын
absolutely!
@oliviaglass3843
3 жыл бұрын
Yes , he is correct …. That plant is completely out of place there :)
@sarahmarti141
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was a real master class. Thank you!
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@thepeopleplaceandnaturepod8344
Жыл бұрын
I love how this video explores the wonders of nature and highlights the environmental issues we face! 👏🍀
@penelopehammerton2907
3 жыл бұрын
Delightful video, a lovely couple who's gardening banter showed how passionate these two are about plants. And gave us plenty to see and appreciate.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I agree.
@Cenepk101
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always envied English borders with Blue False Indigo. Mine on the other hand gets 9 feet wide and flops on the ground. I was inspired by your video to go tidy up my mixed border this morning. I started whacking off the underneath branches all the way around & voila !!!! The bush promptly popped back up !!! I am so proud of myself for figuring this out ! You all probably already know this. Spread the word to your Pinhead American gardeners !!!!!
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, no, we didn't necessarily!
@daiseegray9110
3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful garden and great tips!
@acran127
3 жыл бұрын
Replacing that one plant... What else would you put there. Do you have an idea for a better substitute? That's a question I would propose
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent point!
@williamwade641
3 жыл бұрын
A great video as usual. I loved the discussion between the two passionate gardeners. Thanks for posting.
@radharcanna
Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful border. An interesting approach in covering the border in plants in order to keep the weeds out. Another great video. Thank you.
@convinth
3 жыл бұрын
Now that is my kind of a border! No show garden stuff on view here. Thanks for the video.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@stampinghippo7157
3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful argument, and a fluent gardenlanguage speaking guy, WOW ( that should happen to my husband, uh). IMO the persicaria is planted right in this place, she should stay. This obviously very passionate gardener has nailed it with the long border. Thank you for all the amusing informations! And, please, let us know if they replanted the perasicara in the end, after our votes got in! Best wishes, Hanni.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I will.
@TheImpatientGardener
3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear how much Steve and Lou rely on repetition in a border this long.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
I'll ask them next time, such a good question.
@miesterpropper7805
2 жыл бұрын
Nice people and overall nice border. The plantation while attractive is displaying some deficiencies . Notably the lack of lemon yellow and whites to separate and enhance the overall pastel pink, carmine -blue theme ( he does admit this at one point) The border will probably not look attractive and coherent in mid winter due to the low density of grasses and other perennials holding up well in winter as a dried bouquet arrangement. Foliage texture positioning could be improved. Bringing out the border 2-3 m from the hedge line with a grass or hogging path would add more viewing interest while keeping the plants more compact and away from the thirsty hedge roots.
@mikeq6384
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alexandra for another very informative interview and tour !
@myinnermagpie
Жыл бұрын
The Persicaria is fine. Your border is a bit monochromatic and this reinforces the look. White or line green would work. Or put another castor-looking purple plant behind it.
@SMElder-od5cl
3 жыл бұрын
I liked the way he talked about how a plant develops from early Spring until it fades in the Fall.
@danielseaton984
2 жыл бұрын
How do you maintain such a clean edging between the bed and lawn with the plants so close to the edge? Unfortunately, my lawn is Bermuda, which seeks garden beds, shrubs, and all locations that I don’t want it.
@breeking3333
3 жыл бұрын
Persicaria should stay. Smile. My opinion.
@IsshaGreenThumbing
3 жыл бұрын
I hope my husband could also be my garden mate 😔. What a treasure to watch.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Me too. Mine says 'what are those yellow things?' (daffodils)
@amandaharalambous3042
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMiddlesizedGarden This made me chuckle. EVERY year my husband says 'The Rose bush looks nice'. Whilst pointing at the Camilia 😂
@lynnb1941
3 жыл бұрын
What a super video. Thank you for sharing this. I have borders and I'm never happy with them no matter what I do. I'm going to keep watching this to try to work out what my border problems are. The persicaria should definitely stay! Such an amazing plant for pollinators. Such a great video and once again, thank you for sharing 😊
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@louiseaa7609
3 жыл бұрын
I waited a few days to watch this video. I was scared that would regret my own borders. Spend ages thinking back and forth (and moving some plants back and forth🙈) Too plain or borring? Did I forget to take something into consideration? I didnt😇😅🤞 Cant wait till next year to see it all fold out and hopefully make my vision come true
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it will look beautiful, and never regret your own borders.
@StinkyDustyBird
3 жыл бұрын
I often wonder why when I try this it just looks messy? I wish I could attach photos lol. But I’ve worked on my gardens for decades and this summer especially it just made me sad and I completely gave up on it.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, dear, I'm sorry to hear that. Are you adding in lots of supports in late spring? I've noticed that gardens with lots of supports often look tidier and less sprawly than mine.
@kalissahood7050
Жыл бұрын
That couple is adorable. Their 'argument' made my day 🙂
@judymiddleswart9350
3 жыл бұрын
Love this all!!
@paigeturner165
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ☺️ Can anyone please tell me the name and habit of the maroon coloured large-leafed plant in front of the persicaria?
@paigeturner165
3 жыл бұрын
@Themiddlesizedgarden
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
It's Ricinius 'New Zealand Purple'
@prettypothos4me290
3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and informative! PA zone 6 and moved to this place 11 years ago. As I am 70 I now look for plants with bright interest that I can see from my porch for my future. I did my long border fronts with a lot of Geranium Roxanne and Walkers Low Catmint and I loved it. They bloomed all summer and are still going strong.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Great plants, I agree!
@luath5579
3 жыл бұрын
What a stunning border - and in the colours I like best in a garden (although we also have a hot border, so I'm not totally against yellow and orange - especially Tithonia 'Torch' - in the Autumn). The curve of the border adds greatly to its interest. I'd love it if you could also film their other borders/garden areas, Alexandra. Should the persicaria stay or go? I'd take it out, although the foliage is a good colour match so perhaps Steve and Louise need to go out with their secateurs and snip off all the flower heads :)
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
I hope to film again there, it's still being planted and built, so it was a lovely treat to see it early on.
@elainebernarding8495
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Louise! The leaves make an excellent contribution to your border garden.
@sandhurstwolves3956
2 жыл бұрын
Trying my best to have a good border but it's much harder than it looks
@donaldauguston9740
3 жыл бұрын
I say keep it. I thought it was gorgeous.
@diannedolha2318
3 жыл бұрын
I think you need a broader leaf plant on the right of the 1st year plant behind the persicaria to add more structure (and that too would take the focus a bit off the persicaria).
@anneinchley1211
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, thank you, setting me thinking.
@annfinster
3 жыл бұрын
What a treasure for me to find! Thank you for being here for us… ❣️
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@jucjuc314
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for finding and interviewing these great people for us, they are just great to listen to 😊❤️ Well if the plant stays or not, we will have to know it, so please interview them again what happened. 😄 I love topics about flower borders! Greetings, Judit
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
I'll ask them to let me know if they move it!
@orchardann
4 ай бұрын
This was just too delightful, especially the argument at the end which was full of love and good humor.
@lulajohns1883
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Alexandra, fantastic video, love the plants. What was the name of the sedum he was talking about?
@Kylie4Queen
3 жыл бұрын
Steve called it “Matrona”
@lulajohns1883
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kylie4Queen thanks
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
yes, Matrona. Thank you.
@RoseMary-vs3io
3 жыл бұрын
This was great as per usual Alexandra, I loved this couple's conversation at the end very entertaining Thank you.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@mandibees
2 жыл бұрын
Hello from Ohio in the U.S. The garden is beautiful and there are a ton of plants in there, that I can grow here in my state!! I am very inspired and excited to try this. Wonderful video. Thank you
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lorraineclark3517
3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@brucegelman5582
3 жыл бұрын
Where are the entry and exit points for working the plants?
@DeborahChapin
Жыл бұрын
I love the comments and also the discussions of how you choose your border plants and what you’re looking for. It reinforces what I’ve been doing and I’m glad for that. And this is the second video I’ve watched where you had Matrona sedums and I just love those plants because they are year-round interest and I’m in Maine so you know that they’ll endure extremely cold winters, wet winters, drought summers, which we’ve been experiencing, and they have seed has it last through the whole winter into the spring. I had one plant when I arrived, and I had propagated 30 more out of it and I can’t get enough of it.
@fionaseath3591
3 жыл бұрын
Persicaria should go! It doesn’t gel with what’s around I think. My plants at the front of my borders are lovely but always flop onto the grass which makes mowing tricky as I end up mowing around them. Should I cut a bigger border or just buy upright plants for front of border? Love your videos each week, thank you.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
I've had the same problem and was thinking about this. I think probably buy more upright plants for the edging as making the border bigger could just extend the problem. I also think that if it's a shady-ish border and they're sun-loving plants, they'll reach out. And of course, you could add border supports - the earlier in the season, the better as it never seems to work to add them in once the plant has flopped.
@donisenberg3032
3 жыл бұрын
When I plant a bed, my number one thought is ‘will it survive here’. After that, I can start thinking about other considerations.
@TheMiddlesizedGarden
3 жыл бұрын
Very good advice.
@janettegodfrey7092
2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! love the intelligent discussion and approach to planting here.
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