"I thought using loops was cheating, so I programmed my own using samples. I then thought using samples was cheating, so I recorded real drums. I then thought that programming it was cheating, so I learned to play drums for real. I then thought using bought drums was cheating, so I learned to make my own. I then thought using premade skins was cheating, so I killed a goat and skinned it. I then thought that that was cheating too, so I grew my own goat from a baby goat. I also think that is cheating, but I’m not sure where to go from here. I haven’t made any music lately, what with the goat farming and all."
@SlowHaste
11 ай бұрын
Lollllll is this from something? Or just a personal speculation hahaha
@martinsouthall
11 ай бұрын
Was looking for this quote. It’s popular on a couple of music production subreddits, with good reason: there are no new ideas out there. Chasing after authenticity is a silly waste of time.
@JohanVandekerckhove
11 ай бұрын
I may hope your drumsticks were made of a tree you grew yourself as well 🤣
@Two-Eyed_Boy
10 ай бұрын
You really asked all the pertinent questions. I always have the habit of thinking creativity needs to be a big challenge but I'm working to convince myself on how wrong i am! A few seconds into your song demo I stopped comparing it to Splice creations and just enjoyed the vibe. There's clearly just as much thought and creativity that went into making those samples work for you, even if you don't get the satisfaction of saying, "yep, this was from an old jazz record my dad used to play. And this part i sampled from the seagulls at the boat docks...and this was..." 🤣
@SlowHaste
10 ай бұрын
That’s a good point re: letting creativity be “easier” sometimes. Also a good point re: potential future 100% seagull album
@claystephens8522
4 ай бұрын
it's worth noting that Michael Jackson was not an instrumentalist but he was able to arrange songs in his mind and tell the studio players exactly what to play. That was his process and no one can claim that he wasn't a creative genius. Do you man!
@mpstrgc112
5 ай бұрын
Nice use of the spring reverb!
@SlowHaste
5 ай бұрын
Thanks! It’s not-so-subtly voiced on the OT, but I think it adds a unique character when used tastefully
@robokid13
11 ай бұрын
IMO as long as the music is greater than the sum of its parts, its yours. taking and stacking loops is fine if thats your process. I personally like using loops, but I find that i need to tweak them in some meaningful way in order to be comfortable with it. maybe its slicing/chopping, maybe its adding in FX and/or detuning, etc. or maybe its just combining multiple loops from different places genres. All seems valid to me
@robokid13
11 ай бұрын
hah just got to 5:25 where you say basically the same thing :D
@SlowHaste
11 ай бұрын
@@robokid13 hahah I’m glad you agree! It’s nuanced for sure, and always good to hear another’s perspective
@ken2.0
3 ай бұрын
I want an octatrack so damn bad. No way I can afford it lol.
@andthensoclear
11 ай бұрын
Excellent timing, I have been thinking about this the last couple of days as FL Studio just released FL Cloud. I will probably not subscribe, but the possibility made me start to think. I sometime use loops in my music, normally tweaking them quite a bit. My thinking goes very much in the same direction as you have in the video, if you do enough creative changes or combinations, then there shouldn't be a problem. However, it IS difficult to draw the line, how much is enough. I have come to the conclusion that if you get to a result that is distinctly unique, then you are not "stealing" anyone's artistic expression.
@SlowHaste
11 ай бұрын
Well said, I would have to agree!
@lundsweden
11 ай бұрын
I think this okay to release as your own work, hey you know "solo" pop stars often haven dozens, or even hundreds of talented musicians working on their music. But does it fit with your brand and sonic signature?
@SlowHaste
11 ай бұрын
Great point. And yea, I’d say it general fits nicely within my sonic palate!
@joepow8717
10 ай бұрын
That song is giving Boards of Canada vibes, love it.
@sequencist
8 ай бұрын
Love the sound design, it’s so dreamy and nostalgic! Do you think you only can achieve this with octa or digitakt too? Thank you cheers!
@SlowHaste
8 ай бұрын
Thanks! The Digi could definitely achieve this, although the samples would be in mono so you’d have to do a bit of panning to get the same type of spaciousness. But tbh, it would likely result in a bit of a “cleaner” mix than the OT!
@sequencist
8 ай бұрын
@@SlowHaste thank you!
@producewithjt
10 ай бұрын
You did not compose all the parts, but you certainly produced the entire record. Now as far as releasing it, I think it depends on the creative standard you want to set for yourself. Some producers compose every line, some producers slap drums on a loop.
@SlowHaste
10 ай бұрын
Well said. It’s a balance of “creative guilt” (lol) vs. “this combination/arrangement of sounds wouldn’t have existed without me tweaking them”!
@claystephens8522
4 ай бұрын
imo if you stack 7 loops together and tweak them to suit your taste and the result is something no one has ever heard before, then it belongs to you. tons of old school guys sampled chords because they couldn't play them themselves and they faced the same criticisms. i kinda feel like the distinction between a single chord hit and a 1 bar progression is totally arbitrary. at the end of the day you're assembling things that suit your taste.
@SlowHaste
4 ай бұрын
I totally agree about the chord thing! So many chord progressions are recycled to death, but the originality of songs using them are never questioned
@acstudios2125
11 ай бұрын
I mean isnt that the whole idea of sampling ? You take parts of a song and use it in your own way. I dont see any diffrence from how they sampled from a LP then using splice samples.Just faster and more convenient workflow.
@SlowHaste
11 ай бұрын
I typically use a lot of one-shot samples for structuring beats, and then use my own guitar/synth samples. If I’m using longer form samples from Splice (which I frequently do), I usually mangle/chop them quite a bit until they’re basically not recognizable as their source content. So this particular example is quite a bit different from my usual sampling workflow!
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