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@Grubnar
2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't this be at the top? Did you forget to pin it?
@shaboom420
2 жыл бұрын
Aabsolutely
@CannonRaw
2 жыл бұрын
14:00 You nailed it on the head. Some movies are meant to have that emotional weight on you. Things to instill the message "we can't let this happen again." To contrast that look at Shawshank Redemption. It's a story of having hope in the most horrible of cards of life dealt.
@ghostinthecraig
2 жыл бұрын
You guys are Great 👍🏾
@DarkAngel2512
2 жыл бұрын
Please can you get Shapeshifter or Tullipr on the show. :)
@CorporalFriendlyShark
2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays I look forward to the Drinker’s reviews of movies more than the actual movies themselves.
@CosmicRay111
2 жыл бұрын
He's saved me a fortune! :-)
@NoNameNo.5
2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Golmov_the_Wretched
2 жыл бұрын
Ditto.
@williamalderson5328
2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@lescorlett4133
2 жыл бұрын
I'll raise a glass to that. In Drinker we trust.
@Smagual86
2 жыл бұрын
How they were able to sober him up enough to get him into a studio is beyond me.
@dv9239
2 жыл бұрын
He is drunk here He is just an average guy when sober
@KLWarlord
2 жыл бұрын
CGI face and voice.
@lucara
2 жыл бұрын
The Drinker is never sober. He's just pretending 🤣
@sergiogonzalesYT
2 жыл бұрын
@@lucara LMAO
@marinawolf
2 жыл бұрын
TCD is a character, y'all. Will Jordan is a person.
@benaiahwright937
2 жыл бұрын
I'm black...I absolutely REFUSE to watch one more slave movie. I don't hate "the white man" and you can't make me!
@clairehann2681
2 жыл бұрын
Not only that but dam*...capitalizing on black trauma and suffering much? Doesn't make sense, ideologically...
@merrylderrickson3147
2 жыл бұрын
can we add holocaust porn to the list?
@littlecatfeet9064
2 жыл бұрын
@@merrylderrickson3147 yes! Schindler’s List was the last for me. Honestly those movies just fuel anti-Semitism now.
@kurarisusa
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. One thing that really bothers me is that they act like we don’t have any other stories to tell. Like every black movie or show has to be brimming with bitterness, hatred and pain. It’s either about how oppressed we are or about is committing crimes. That’s all we get. That’s NOT all (or even mostly) who we are though. It feels like they just want to cram us in this horrible little box and keep us there and I hate it.
@Pwwh0711
2 жыл бұрын
LOL Only self-hating, middle class white liberals (the modern hijacked usage of the term, of course), militant self-serving, revenge-seeking black activists & deluded neo-Marxists are attempting to force that narrative upon you. ie the extant media & Establishment! ...ironically, that's kinda like the "bad old days," isn't it?!
@ironelemental9367
Жыл бұрын
That wasn't the Critical Drinker, that was Will Jordan. The Critical Drinker is never seen without sunglasses! Still, a fun interview to watch😃
@petery6432
Жыл бұрын
So, you mean the Memory Store was so dumb that it turned The Drinker into WIl Jordan for a brief moment? That memory store really is the dumbest thing ever created
@DustinBarlow8P
Жыл бұрын
Also where Da Fuq is Tatianna?!
@drTERRRORRR
Жыл бұрын
I don't know,man. This expression from the thumbnail is pretty much what I see when picturing him suffering through another shit movie. ...or he could be hangover as fuck,since you shouldn't be THAT drunk during an interview with camera aimed at you. You'll be the judge.
@drTERRRORRR
Жыл бұрын
@@DustinBarlow8P I'd say powdering her nose to take the edge off when this degenerate comes back to ravage that ass. It's just an educated guess.
@rammerchandy1712
Жыл бұрын
@@petery6432 yes, yes it was
@TheTrueNarthumpulous
2 жыл бұрын
Drinker deserves every bit of extra exposure he can get. Nobody else has done as great of a job of articulating everything that's wrong with entertainment media in this country.
@ganjaericco
2 жыл бұрын
He articulates stories 'drunk' better than modern stories themselves. :p
@PeteMD
2 жыл бұрын
Disparu is a good KZitem follow for this type of content
@tylerblack676
2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a big fan of the Mark Kermode until in 2016, Kermode basically accused anyone of being misogynistic unless they found the female reboot of Ghostbusters funny. That wasn't a review of a film, but a pompous lecture, at which point I realised he'd been compromised by woke nonsense. More recently he got all snotty about being invited onto GB News, which I thought was childish, and when I questioned why he hadn't reviewed What Is A Woman, I got some generic response about the channel not being able to review films that have already been released, which was really just a rubbish way of saying that he didn't want to review it because of its controversy. In the meantime, the Critical Drinker has been doing an absolutely outstanding job of articulating how woke culture quotas have destroyed legacy franchises and characters. So, sorry Mark, but you sold out and the Drinker has replaced you as the honest and authentic option.
@tomraffell1923
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair he has 4 times the subscribers of Triggernomatry!
@TheTrueNarthumpulous
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomraffell1923 Still. Many of their subscribers might not know who he is.
@cjkoehler
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making "THE MESSAGE" part of the cultural zeitgeist.
@nicomal
2 жыл бұрын
You mean >>THE MESSAGE
@dimitrijetucovic1307
2 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean *THE MESSAGE* ?
@loturzelrestaurant
2 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrijetucovic1307 Bad Message from Drinker though: He does not seem to know that nothing is politically-charged like Daily-Wire is. These are literally and most literally THE People behind the Abortion-Issues.
@dimitrijetucovic1307
2 жыл бұрын
@@loturzelrestaurant ok?
@Sad_Elf
2 жыл бұрын
@@loturzelrestaurant you do know there is a difference between a message and ***THE MESSAGE*** right?
@MrRandomcommentguy
2 жыл бұрын
Top Gun Maverick was made without interference because of the industry clout of Tom Cruise. Nobody can get away with screwing around with a Tom Cruise project. And you know what? There aren't that many bad Tom Cruise movies...
@donmiles3927
2 жыл бұрын
I even told someone "Notice how there actually WAS diversity in Maverick! Two FEMALE pilots, two BLACK pilots, and even a LATINO pilot! 😮But noticed how NONE of that was pushed on the viewers! (And I'm Black myself!) See what happens when you focus on character development and story greatness, instead of 'representation'? And even with Val Kilmer's serious health issues, notice how he was still basically DIGNIFIED without making him some patronizing charity case....again for 'representation' of those with health issues? I'll be honest, I'm not necessarily a Tom Cruise fan. But much RESPECT for him, for making sure Maverick was about story integrity first. And guess what? Latin, black, and female audiences still LOVED Maverick!"
@kenrehill8775
2 жыл бұрын
@@donmiles3927 watch the original, there are plenty of coloured actors in that as well.
@donmiles3927
2 жыл бұрын
@@kenrehill8775 Yes! I was even going to mention that as well!👍
@rhodwilliams7258
2 жыл бұрын
@@donmiles3927 I mean fact that TWO female fighter pilots were in the top 12 pilots in the US Navy was pretty ridiculous statistically, but then the whole mission was ridiculous. I still enjoyed it though.
@SansAppellation
2 жыл бұрын
Ironic considering the original Top Gun was a military recruitment tool
@r0ckworthy
Жыл бұрын
I love this guy. He's NOT just another cynical "bro". His Critical Drinker channel on KZitem is incredibly intelligent and happens to be super funny too.
@chindleymuffin
Жыл бұрын
"That's all I've got for today....go away now!"
@theALTF4
Жыл бұрын
cynical...bro? like who 😮
@LinkMarioSamus
Жыл бұрын
He’s a complete wreck who has no original takes that don’t involve complaining about identity politics, which quite frankly isn’t original either.
@BlackWingedSeraphX
Жыл бұрын
@@LinkMarioSamus You're a dumass.
@coldestgamerz465
Жыл бұрын
@@LinkMarioSamus 🤓
@Xtheearthchildx
2 жыл бұрын
As a black woman, I feel physically ill when I see Hollywood try to use my demographic for woke points. Like in the show And Just Like That, it’s quite literally unwatchable, I gagged almost every episode. Edit: Um guys, I identified myself because I am saying “even I too hate this, and I am who they are trying to appeal to” I fully understand my race and sex are irrelevant to have an opinion on something. Didn’t think I needed to explain that but, continue your dissertations in the replies. **I would delete this comment if I wasn’t interested to see how many people get pissed off about it. Fascinating stuff.
@kdbrown777
2 жыл бұрын
It really is disgusting how Hollywood creates tokenism of characters and act like that's somehow less racist. How about we just hire people for roles based on what works rather than trying to score brownie points with the woke crowd. If a character is well-written and makes sense to be in a story, I could not care less what race or gender they are.
@DarkAngel2512
2 жыл бұрын
What happened? Not seen it.
@thirdmeow2270
2 жыл бұрын
It's pure racism swapping these established white characters out for black actors. Not just for the white folk, but for the black as well. The industry is basically saying black people can't create original interesting characters, so have to stand on the shoulders of white folk.
@everburn
2 жыл бұрын
Preach!!!
@Rope257
2 жыл бұрын
You know what bothers me the most. That human beings like yourself now feel obligated to say: "As a Y colored skin and Z type of sex, I [...]". Mostly because I couldn't care less about what your skin color or sex is and, it shouldn't matter. This is what the woke has accomplished. They've made skin color and sex more relevant when partaking in a societal discussion where before its relevancy was on the decline for at least a decade or so before they started their brand of "activism".
@marcase2003
2 жыл бұрын
The Critical Drinker is the absolute dude. His reviews are spot on and hilarious, highly recommend giving him a follow. Thanks to my fellow Trigger-bigots for getting him on the show. 👍
@stijnvdv2
2 жыл бұрын
He is... his ending statement about nuts is kinda.... nuts. Like doesn't have anything to do with anything. But it is interesting that people are getting more allergic these days. I am allergic to nuts... but luckily I don't like peanuts... honestly it's the one thing that can make me gag.... like it's the most unpleasant taste I've ever had and I pretty much eat anything (except the bugs that the WEF wants to force down our throats) but the taste of peanuts.....the smell..... I don't understand how a single human on this earth actually can like that, it's awful.
@truthseeker6377
2 жыл бұрын
Or you can call him El Duderino (if you're not into the whole brevity thing)
@y3ee3e
2 жыл бұрын
he's just a grifter that sees that theres a massive audience for reactionary incels channel that bash minorities and wokeism.
@truthseeker6377
2 жыл бұрын
@@y3ee3e 🤣 good one👍
@chrispekel5709
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like your brain has a strange reaction to peanuts that other people don't get.
@williams268
2 жыл бұрын
The critical drinker has been putting out fantastic content for a long while now. So glad he's getting his recognition
@isma2k7
2 жыл бұрын
U mean racist content?
@tyriana..340
2 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend his books as well. In his videos he's tearing down incompetent storytelling, but his books really show he can actually do it better himself.
@knox7945
2 жыл бұрын
That just means he has a target on his back. Hopefully nothing happens to him.
@killbotone6210
2 жыл бұрын
It's very narrow and focused on Woke Hollywood. If you're into woke things and msm Hollywood you will enjoy him. If you're into movies and film not so much.
@user-vt4hd8hb4v
2 жыл бұрын
@@killbotone6210 I mean yea the reason most people watch him is because he tramples the indentity politics and it's fun. But movie wise it's not anything advanced honestly
@GamingWithSpoons
Жыл бұрын
The Critical Drinker is the kind of reviewer we need. The man clearly knows what makes good and bad writing.
@tomt4822
Жыл бұрын
True enough, but he totally misses the mark here, this is not a problem with writers, but what the writers are being told to write. If you read comments from ACTUAL Hollywood writers, you find if you write well, and don't back the woke agenda you are GONE. This is about destroying another industry, Hollywood.
@saturnsanmclearen4588
2 жыл бұрын
I like how he portrays himself as a mad drunk in his videos, but has an amazing articulate vocabulary, and looks like a dad of four.
@spirittammyk
2 жыл бұрын
I love his accent.
@margarethmichelina5146
2 жыл бұрын
@@spirittammyk He's Scottish in case you didn't know.
@spirittammyk
2 жыл бұрын
@@margarethmichelina5146 Thanks.
@marinawolf
2 жыл бұрын
I seem to remember he's a dad of two girls. The Drinker is a character, Will Jordan is a talented author and critic.
@dshawnbyrd
2 жыл бұрын
Lol, yeah. He must have reconciled things with Tatyonna!
@unbearifiedbear1885
2 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy how well the _"""tHe mEsSaGe"""_ meme has caught on Been with drinker since 8k subs - what a ride ❤
@slevinchannel7589
2 жыл бұрын
21:48: nope, those videos are so politically-charged they literally called called science-denial by all science-youtubers in all of existence OR called hatepreach-b.s by all of the lgbt-community. Or Both. Most of the Time both. Daily Wire is literally known as a Hategroup who's embers are all disrespected by all of Science. So yeah, Triggermometry heard wrong.
@dontyouworryaboutit_
2 жыл бұрын
I think I found him back around 18k? Subs. Been a wild ride lol
@Cenot4ph
2 жыл бұрын
nobody cares
@unbearifiedbear1885
2 жыл бұрын
@@Cenot4ph and yet here you are 😂🤦♂️
@Cenot4ph
2 жыл бұрын
@@unbearifiedbear1885 I know, to save anyone from posting things like this, nobody cares mate and nobody can verify anything.
@bmardiney
2 жыл бұрын
The most fascinating part of woke writing is that they are so morally backwards, they make the heroes evil and the villains relatable and morally defensible. Evil writers can't even understand the concept of heroism, so to them, the villain that spouts truth bombs is a menace and the girl-boss hero that assaults innocent men is admirable.
@frosksdeadteeth5163
2 жыл бұрын
It's because they are anti god, antichrist aka Satan/Satan worshippers.
@Hajde_budalla
2 жыл бұрын
People hated The Joker for this reason.
@frumpusnumpus
2 жыл бұрын
It's why Cruella bombed too. They really tried to humanize a puppy killer! Absolutely insane.
@jonnywaldis8275
2 жыл бұрын
Rather they attempt to make them relatable and redeem them, only to utterly fail while congratulating themselves for a job well done. Their warped sense of morality may be the most disconcerting aspect of the woke writing phenomenon.
@jamesmaybrick6750
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hajde_budalla Joker is such a great film, gets better on repeat viewing. The people that most hated it are pretty much the people who are the identity politics driven lot sabotaging our franchises.
@johnnazar180
Жыл бұрын
Modern movie checklist for the production team: • is the cast diverse enough? • Did we push the "white man bad" message strongly enough? • Is the main female better at everything? • Are PR ready to call people racist if the movie flops? • has the writing team ever read a book? No? Give them a raise.
@Klespyrian
7 ай бұрын
That's *almost* literally the checklist you have to follow to get considered for award shows in Hollywood currently.
@EubulusKane3259
7 ай бұрын
How did Oppenheimer win best picture then?
@DanielNicholasBull
4 ай бұрын
Idiotic
@Crest28
2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how far The drinker has come. Glad to see this growth so fast cause he's Real
@keyontedollison8547
2 жыл бұрын
Back when movies were actually good but nowdays seem it like movies always ain't as good as used to be the industry is changing and actress are leaving hollywood and people beginning to see why they don't wanna to look up to these actress anymore because of their silly mess and acting funny and showing out and the public eye and but the world see all that though and they know what they is doing
@dead_end_king
2 жыл бұрын
I will always love Drinker for introducing me to the phrases “Fuck off, film” and “Fuck off, show”.
@callmelordhelmet
2 жыл бұрын
"Nah, it'll be fine."
@johneyton5452
2 жыл бұрын
Go away now.
@maximusrapturous7195
2 жыл бұрын
But the film needs the script to happen, so
@RSG_TheMonster
2 жыл бұрын
THE MESSAGE THE WRONG SIDE
@michaelplowman8674
2 жыл бұрын
"That's shyte."
@mynamestim8117
2 жыл бұрын
The Drinker is an absolute LEGEND. I was one of his first few hundred followers, and its incredible to see how his channel has grown. He totally deserves it and it shows that there are critical thinkers/drinkers out there. Anyways, go away now.
@hubertcumberdale6404
2 жыл бұрын
I was your hundred and one like... maybe one day your comment here will have 1.3 million likes!
@shum8104
2 жыл бұрын
looking up to him says a lot about you
@hubertcumberdale6404
2 жыл бұрын
@@shum8104 assuming something also says a lot about you
@shum8104
2 жыл бұрын
@@hubertcumberdale6404 there was no assumption. why would someone who can think properly think this of tcd?
@JOHN----DOE
Жыл бұрын
This guy's critique is so spot on. I'm a retired English professor, and he nailed the awful way potential writers are taught in college. First, we have decades of people who weren't taught the granular complexities of American or any other history, warts and all, but with a positive spin that people HAVE tried in the arc of time to improve--and things ARE a LOT better than in the past, thanks to the Enlightenment and the better impulses of some of those dead white males in power. Then in lit classes, no need to read and master the techniques of classic good literature, oh no--all dead white wrong males. All you need to do is master a politically-correct ideology, bash the old guys, and replace them with something politically correct. Or worse yet, appropriate the past story parasitically but change it all to your value system. Never mind if there's no plot, character, ideas, language--you know, all that boring old Aristotelian stuff. Disney movies are the rubber-meets-the-roat result; not only ghastly badly-written propaganda, but stuff NO AUDIENCE WANTS. Hopefully the latter may get through to the capitalists running media, but I doubt it, because good writing is HARD and the ideas are CHALLENGING and there's no guarantee of instant huge profit.
@tagus100
2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to hear KK, FF and the Drinker take down THE MESSAGE!
@Mumbamumba
2 жыл бұрын
Who are KK and FF?
@Fee_V
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mumbamumba The hosts…Konstantin and Francis.
@Sagittariuz912
2 жыл бұрын
What message?
@asraiSOA
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sagittariuz912 LOL... go watch some of the Drinkers Video's ... you'll figure it out.
@ransakreject5221
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sagittariuz912 the messages that men can give birth. That whites are evil, Christianity is bad, capitalism is evil. you know… the same message we are taught in school
@Marshmellow3971
2 жыл бұрын
I actually don’t have a problem with people writing ‘woke’ stories, my problem is when you add woke politics to existing stories and characters. If you want to write a super inclusive, intersectional feminist fantasy story no one is stopping you, but don’t buy someone else’s work and add your own beliefs to it.
@bosaciousbagginocious7475
2 жыл бұрын
Most of those stories are downright terrible which no one would pay attention to. They had to use existing stories to carry their horrendous MESSAGE.
@drjonesey5
2 жыл бұрын
Even when it's not heavily laced, what does it really matter? I feel like the point of contention is not HOW MUCH it is in the product but the why. For example, let's say you watched a family movie with your child and wife and it was totally normal family fun, typical family bonding movie about a husband, wife, teen kids type of deal. Then all of a sudden, during the end credits, the writer writes in that the teen daughter is gay. Why? this literally happened with The Mitchells vs. the Machines. That movie was a standard family/kids movie and hit all the good points then all of a sudden, "oh yeah the daughters gay" come out of nowhere in the end credit scene where the mother is asking how the daughter is doing on college. What turns people off is not the AMOUNT of progressive SJW nonsense, it is its misplaced existence. The writer wants to add someone LGBTQ to the story, so just throws it in randomly and justifies it with "well it's true to her persona so it's all good" It's ridiculous. Only people who have progressive mindsets do stuff like that. Have you ever seen a right leaning writer or director randomly throw in that a character is a pro-Gun, Pro-Life, pro-Capitalist's? NO. Like come on, this is the problem. The fact that this stuff is done with absolutely no reason to be done IS the problem. Woke stories are indeed trash and the existence of these ideologies are trash because they only exist in media to preach things to us propaganda style AND they are throw in so that viewers can develop the mindset of tolerance and acceptance.
@turtleboi1547
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly there’s nothing really wrong with a movie being “woke” it’s only when it’s forced into something like you said if they want to make a political movie let them but don’t force it into other shit. Good example is Jordan peels movies they’re pretty political but it’s an original story and he works it into the story instead of lazily forcing it in. At least that’s what I believe
@DM-it1qf
2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about expanding on existing universes to create separate stories for those characters? So many people including several wannabe edgelords have mocked Ms Marvel’s supposed “wokeness” when she’s based on a character from her own Marvel comic book who is also Muslim Pakistani-American. People are so dismissive of things simply showing the full spectrum of human existence beyond what we’re used to by default (i.e. only the stories of cishet white men (fun buzzwords) where they’re allowed to just be people) as “wokeness” without even knowing what the story is.
@User9r682
2 жыл бұрын
Few people would watch the woke trash if it wasn't painted over the top of already recognised characters and franchises. It also serves their purposes to taint all existing cultural touch stones with their ideology, if all our modern stories carry their message and old ones aren't re-told their message will get through to young people and shape their world views, this propagating the ideology.
@aucourant9998
2 жыл бұрын
I very rarely watch any movies made post 2010 now. The Wokeness, the political correctness, the shoehorning in of 'badass' women and Black people into every movie whether it suits the story or not, the ticking of boxes, all make many new movies unwatchable for me.
@scottmcmahon86
2 жыл бұрын
You must've hated pretty much every film Quentin Tarantino ever made then...
@TheFailedmessiah
2 жыл бұрын
@@scottmcmahon86 I like Tarantino's original trilogy, reservoir dogs, pulp fiction and jackie Brown. He started to lose me around kill bill, which was Meh
@BrockLanders
2 жыл бұрын
Same here. By far, the best tv shows and movies were made before the year 2000.
@SeasideDetective2
2 жыл бұрын
I think you have it about right. Hollywood has been on the (moderate) political left since the 1930s, and their journey from "aspirational" progressivism to "wokism" has been a gradual one. In the beginning, they were more interested in "structural" injustices than in identity politics (for example, I AM A FUGITIVE FROM A CHAIN GANG or THE GRAPES OF WRATH, which depicted the struggles of people who were either multiracial or "generic white." They began to focus specifically on racism in the '40s and on sexism in the '70s, but, in general, they didn't become overtly political until about the early 2000s (though there were some important exceptions, such as REDS, etc.). Even so, I wouldn't say that modern Hollywood films "teach people to hate America." At the very worst, they promote their own utopian vision for America, which is dominated by women, people of color, and homosexuals. Screenwriters and filmmakers are too smart to blatantly denigrate America.
@SeasideDetective2
2 жыл бұрын
@@bradthompson5383 My personal problem with "badass women" characters is that, in recent decades (particularly during the 1990s and 2000s), Hollywood has pushed what I like to call an "idiot feminism." Too many female heroes have not been real girls, but big-breasted bimbos with smart mouths whom you want to slap in the face rather than cheer on. There hasn't been enough emphasis on the "interior" qualities of women that are more important (intelligence, kindness, etc.). To be fair, a lot of male heroes have become idiots, too. But with female heroes it's somehow more conspicuous and blatant.
@lhw.iAviation
2 жыл бұрын
This is the 1st time I saw the Critical Drinker sober and serious
@deceiver444
Жыл бұрын
His analysis on modern mainstream movies are very serious but he injects them with his unmistakable blend of sarcasm and dry humor, which make them funnier than most.
@MrMisanthrope84
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is sick of it. Left, right, center. We're all tired of it. I'm tired of Disney doing it the most, they are by far the number one pioneers of this boring insidiousness by a wide margin. What they've done with Star Wars is nothing short of criminal, and they're slowly nosediving the Marvel franchise in the same way.
@CaptnYestrday
2 жыл бұрын
Not slowly. They've basically destroyed it.
@LinkMarioSamus
Жыл бұрын
@Dtaysche Even as someone who finds Rey and Captain Marvel to be boring characters, I still see bad faith if not outright sexism all over your statement. For one thing, those two characters are super interesting compared to the likes of Claire in the Jurassic World and The Major in the live-action Ghost in the Shell, but I guess they’re not Mary Sues so hurr durr. Quite frankly Jyn Erso is way blander than Rey. Very interesting you seem to name heroines without superpowers as good examples while ones with are bad.
@philipdarmawan6252
Жыл бұрын
@@LinkMarioSamus How to tell if you're illiterate:
@LinkMarioSamus
Жыл бұрын
@@Levieuxde1837 Because she doesn’t have superpowers evidently.
@LinkMarioSamus
Жыл бұрын
@@Levieuxde1837 That’s your definition of a better character.
@hydroac9387
2 жыл бұрын
Critical Drinker is terrific. Love his commentary and wry sense of humor. I also appreciate the true sadness from CD when he sees his beloved and characters franchises vandalized. And he takes all of us on this journey to explain why.
@grahamstrouse1165
2 жыл бұрын
I think I actually like Will in settings like this where he’s not in character or playing a bit. I really started following channels like Midnight’s Edge, Doomcock, CD & Nerdrotic back around 2015-2017 or thereabouts when Wokeism was really starting to peak. Some of these guys I still follow but I’m just at a point where I’m getting worn down by culture warriors of all stripes. Will’s a little different than a lot of the hack KZitemrs. He’s an accomplished author. He genuinely likes to talk about movies & he’s not just out there trying to monetize outrage. I mean, maybe he is a little (gotta pay the bills somehow) but he’s not just doing this to be performative.
@bpater12
2 жыл бұрын
Triggernometry and Critical Drinker united, what a time to be alive
@eeddieedwards3890
5 ай бұрын
We may need a "Trigger" warning.
@DS-fk7ed
2 жыл бұрын
Being gay, I now think any gay character in Hollywood movie (or TV shows - especially the BBC) has been added simply to tick a 'WOKE' box rather than be integral to the storyline. It's actually incredibly insulting.
@redpillnibbler4423
2 жыл бұрын
All the homosexual people I know are not woke or anything,they just live their lives normally. Why is tv/film pushing this agenda and trying to stir everyone up?
@IstariAzul777
4 ай бұрын
I agree. They just made frenchie gay out of nowhere and tho I’m Gay n think he’s super sexy the suddenness of it and knowing it was for an ESG score vs actual story. Plus the show already has a lot of characters do it’s just clunky to focus so much screen time . Plus they basically depict a hookup then make it this ongoing deep romance.. maybe I’m Jaded but it’s just so forced n goofy Plus I kinda liked the slow moving romance with the mute Japanese wolverine girl Tolkein was right, allegory is lame
@yolandabraithwaite7730
3 ай бұрын
Me too. They never take gays on a hero’s journey, or have them helping the larger community. They can only strive for their families or the gay community.
@kurtwinter4422
2 жыл бұрын
They broke iconic characters. All characters' actions should flow from established traits. Yet, we got a raging Spock, a Han Solo with his guard down, a weak James Bond and a genocidal Dr. Who.
@yung_wise5861
2 жыл бұрын
Well the problem with Dr. Who isn’t that she’s genocidal it’s that she’s bad and they rewrote practically ALL of Doctor Who just so they always had a stamp on it. David Tennants Doctor didn’t give a fck about ending an entire race to save his friends or whoever he was protecting at the time. When he first meets Donna he kills an entire race of Spider aliens and he literally sits to watch the spider queen die, the Daleks, his own race, the angels, etc. It’s not that he won’t straight decimate your entire race, it’s that it always feels earned and deserved. You know he tried reason and it didn’t work and that it isn’t some dumb grandstand. New Doctor just does wtf ever the writer feels like doing.
@NT-fq8sk
2 жыл бұрын
I was sooooo vex when I finished watching the recent James Bond. I was just like what the hell did I just watch? Who was that person on the screen? Granted, Daniel Craig is one of my least favorite James Bonds but golly!!! that film was a hot mess.
@jomahawk7488
2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Jake Skywalker.
@collegerebel
2 жыл бұрын
Making Iceman gay and Carol Danvers becoming Captain Marvel. I'll never forgive Disney/Marvel for those two.
@chrisblanc663
2 жыл бұрын
I liked Craig’s bond. But I haven’t watched the last one yet, so I can count on them to ruin that too once I get to it.
@jimwilliams8819
2 жыл бұрын
I remember the horror I felt when I heard rumors that a remake of The Princess Bride was in the works. There's just no way today's Hollywood could redo a film like that without fucking it up completely.
@Femmeaesthetic
2 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing there gonna make Buttercup an “independent woman”!
@amissbennet
2 жыл бұрын
Is nothing sacred?
@gavinclayton13
Жыл бұрын
Fuck that.
@bretviola6871
Жыл бұрын
I saw Rob Reiner on Real Time with Bill Maher a while back and he’s just such a typical angry leftist now. He’s bought in to this social justice mind virus heart and soul. There’s no way that this man thats here today could make a Princess Bride or Spinal Tap. No way!!!
@5pointview717
Жыл бұрын
Me too was horrified to hear they would attempt it. An independent woke Princess would never get kidnapped, forced into an arranged loveless marriage with an evil man, still be a virgin or require a Male pirate to come save her so how would that ever be a 'The Princess Bride'? Disney logic - That is exactly what Modern Audience wants.
@KaoruGoyle
2 жыл бұрын
that's why Kobra Kai suceeded. They HONORED Mr Miyagi everytime they could (which, made me tear up everytime). They didnt dirty his legacy, they didnt mention his "violent drinking problem" and put him into a bad light. Also they made the characters very nuanced while giving the "new gen" a chance to shine too. It was simple like that, disney just had to do that. Honor the past, give the next gen a chance to shine
@michaelpettersson4919
2 жыл бұрын
Good. I saw Mr Miyagi drunk once in the original movie and it was pretty much obvius it was an annual event for him. The man had been fighting nazis in Europe while his wife wasted away in an interment camp due her Japanese heritage. Definitely not a drinking problem, he had every right drowning his sorrows at the anniversary of that. That is character building but someone wanting to destroy him would definetly use that for character assassination. Good thing Cobra Kai didn't went down that path.
@MagcargoMan
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelpettersson4919 Cobra Kai just pandered to the "Daniel bad!" memes instead.
@jasonmacomber4020
2 жыл бұрын
@ MagcargoMan I never got that vibe. I got the "Daniel and Johnny. are both human" vibe.
@KaoruGoyle
2 жыл бұрын
@@MagcargoMan Nah, if you rewatch the old movies, Daniel always fucked up, and Miyagi always set him in the right path. Now he doesnt have miyagi and you can clearly see he struggles to be (and wants to be) a better person. I'd say its a very human, nuanced writing, of course, some people dont get it and go "meme, daniel bad".
@MagcargoMan
2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmacomber4020 The show tries to pretend that the incident where Johnny and his friends ran Daniel off a cliff was something minor and petty to care about rather than the traumatic incident that it actually was. Just blatant pandering to the memers who say Daniel started it simply because he did what pretty much any other movie protagonist would do and stick up for someone against a jerk.
@zaphael7238
Жыл бұрын
Love Critical Drinker’s dry sarcastic reviews, he makes me laugh much of the time. Watching this has reminded me how much I loved going to the cinema, that communal atmosphere and the buzz walking away from a good film. I haven’t seen anted to see a movie in around two years not because of fear of sickness but because nothing has come out I want to watch.
@amuroray9115
Жыл бұрын
Cinema is great as long as you avoid the internet and the online personalities telling you how to feel. I realize I can only trust my own judgment and nobody else’s
@yewtewbstew547
Жыл бұрын
@@amuroray9115 Yeah there is still decent stuff coming out too, you just have to dig a little bit to find it. The Disney and Netflex trash just happens to garner the majority of mainstream attention. It's basically the same with video games, the good stuff is still there you just have to be very proactive about finding it. That said, of cinema in general, I really can't be arsed nowadays. I can either drive 30 minutes to get there and pay out the ass for an experience that is barely even a shadow of its former self, or I can sit in the comfort of my own home and just chill out with the same film. And if I need a piss half way through, I can pause it lol. The thing Mike mentioned in RLM's Oppenheimer review about how his local cinema had the screen calibrated to fit the aspect ratio of the pre-movie ads rather than the film itself really just encapsulates the 2023 cinema experience that most people will recieve. It's shit lol.
@BobHooker
Жыл бұрын
You mean going to see Barbie or Oppenheimer. The second time I saw Barbie the audience started to applaud. People were so happy. Even when I saw Cocaine Bear the audience was laughing and talking after the movie but I think we were all stoned. The world is not over, you are just older.
@TheGavric
2 жыл бұрын
The "Woke" writers are living out their fantasies and exorcising their aggressions through their writing. This is not unexpected, as that's a staple of writing; to invent characters and stories that come from your inner landscape and desires. The trouble is that they're emotionally immature and therefore incapable of creating good stories and characters. They turn out childish temper tantrums. All they can write are childish revenge fantasies that absolve them of responsibility for their problems.
@slevinchannel7589
2 жыл бұрын
21:48: nope, those videos are so politically-charged they literally called called science-denial by all science-youtubers in all of existence OR called hatepreach-b.s by all of the lgbt-community. Or Both. Most of the Time both. Daily Wire is literally known as a Hategroup who's embers are all disrespected by all of Science. So yeah, Triggermometry heard wrong.
@Iron-Bridge
2 жыл бұрын
To add, the majority lack meaningful life experience. As if four years of some guided trust fund indoctrination or summering in the Hamptons not having to understand how sewer maintenance or fast food kitchen cleaning works prepares one for the hard knocks of life. A lot of great works from past generations were from war veterans, minorities who started from the bottom and people who knew actual hardship.
@shotscarecrow
2 жыл бұрын
"All they can write are childish revenge fantasies that absolve them of responsibility for their problems." This reads like a post someone could have written in the 80s about most of the narrative media that was being churned out then.
@zeesup
2 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head bro.
@qsm2978
2 жыл бұрын
lol if they created new characters y’all wouldn’t GAF. you just don’t like women or anyone darker than a paper bag in your media. go back to watching clint eastwood and send this grifter to AA
@GrowlieDave
2 жыл бұрын
You had me at drinker. A man who voices my own opinions in a much more coherent way.
@empathyvirus
2 жыл бұрын
I wanna scream right now! Can't believe you guys finally got the Critical Drinker on the show!! Pls tell him I am a huge fan of his KZitem channel and I always have a good laugh watching his movie reviews. Keep up the good work, you guys and he!
@lescorlett4133
2 жыл бұрын
Tell him yourself, he reads the comments.
@caram6061
2 жыл бұрын
me too when I saw him I was like fucking yaaas he is on!
@elingrome5853
2 жыл бұрын
GO AWAY NOOOOW
@Mad.Dog.Murdoch
2 жыл бұрын
I almost screamed too. I love this guy.
@peterbrown6224
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing that they landed TCD. A genuinely likeable man. Go away now.
@firefiy8789
Жыл бұрын
One thing I have to say about drinker - he is fair. He sees the issues that modern politics have on entertainment, but he will always acknowledge when something he expected nothing from turns out to be somewhat good. He also doesn't milk situations for views, he leaves his thoughts and leaves us to ponder them in our own time.
@HAMSTERPOESJE
2 жыл бұрын
“We’re allowed to feel happy”. That hit hard.
@andresanguianozuniga6798
2 жыл бұрын
This was a wonderful interview. So in conclusion: An artist can be an activist but and activist cannot be an artist...why? easy, the artist cares about the art, the activist only on the message no matter what.
@robbiesmith8055
2 жыл бұрын
Great art can come from overtly political films, it just needs to come from a competent storyteller. Just look at Get Out. It is blatantly obvious that systemic racism is a huge factor in the film, but it's integrated so seamlessly into an otherwise hugely entertaining an frightening story that no one was accusing Jordan Peele of being 'too woke'. The problem is that studios today aren't interested in telling good stories, they just want butts in seats. And with more and more people embracing progressive ideas, they see shallow woke messaging as a quick and easy way to draw people in. The problem isn't that woke or political stories are destined to be terrible, it's just that not enough of the people telling these stories have any interest in writing with grace and subtlety. The message comes first for them, not the story. Instead of calling for Hollywood to be less woke, we just need to hold Hollywood to a higher standard of what woke stories should look like. Because at the end of the day, diversity isn't the reason so many of these woke films suck - its terrible writing that ruins them.
@ironpulcinella3586
2 жыл бұрын
Activism is a form of propaganda; the spread of an idea but in this case, wokes are propagating a toxic ideology based off egotistical psychological issues.
@THE_BEAR_JEW
2 жыл бұрын
If you make art, you are an artist. You may not like what people have to say or the message but that doesn't mean it's not art or that its maker isn't an artist.
@robbiesmith8055
2 жыл бұрын
@@THE_BEAR_JEW Well said.
@Eddie_of_the_A_Is_A_Gang
2 жыл бұрын
@@THE_BEAR_JEW What is art. If i claim I make art when I shit in the toilet, is it art? Something doesn't have value because you claim it's art. There are awful painting, terrible movies, crap books, etc. If the ''message'' is stupid, incoherent, unintelligible, wrong, etc. Than it's shit, of poor quality and you are not entitled to praise because you claim to make art. I made that point in my art class, I grabbed a bunch of rocks of the ground and put them on the table, claimed i made art. With modern definition, I actually did, like that guy who puts a urinal in a museum. When criticism becomes art itself, than the word doesn't mean anything anymore. Art can be litteraly anything, so it has no value. Art needs to mean : attempting, trying or making a point. For all things we claim to be art to actually be.
@littleaussierippa
2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Mr. Jordan/Critical Drinker talk for hours about film and entertainment. Such an articulate and intelligent man. Everything he says is absolutely on point.
@darc4314
2 жыл бұрын
Tune into his Open Bar live streams, where he talks about film and entertainment for hours.
@JayaMadhavadas
Жыл бұрын
YES he is SPOT ON,,,Hollywood B S -- is DESTROYING CINEMA.
@victortonelli5670
Жыл бұрын
"Nowadays I look forward to the Drinker’s reviews of movies more than the actual movies themselves." - Shokuwarrior
@daniell1483
2 жыл бұрын
American History X is a great example of how movies can tackle issues like racism in a realistic way.
@furtim1
2 жыл бұрын
Disagree. The film depicts black people as either completely innocent or simply opportunistic petty criminals with hearts of gold, with white people being ignorant power-hungry sadists. Also, it shows the main character using statistics, evidence, and personal tragedy as justification for his beliefs - nobody else does this in the story. This is done to cast doubt on anyone in the real world that does this. They then have the character "understand" how twisted his perspective was. They show that only racists justify any part of the Rodney King fight, that only racists recognize their displacement, only racists are opposed to hiring illegal immigrants, only racists use statistical analysis, only white racists form gangs in prison, etc, etc. Nobody has a nuanced view or realistic criticism of "black culture" aside from the white racists. It has the ignorant, white, racist characters bad-mouthing Democrats, specifically the Clintons, but not Republicans. This is to make Democrats and the Clintons look like the non-racist party and let the audience presume these neo-nazis are Republicans. It discredits racial unity for white people, but nobody else. It establishes the idea that the only reason the black characters are in prison is because of racism. The only positive messages in it, in my opinion, are the recognition of individual judgement, family ties, and prospects for redemption/forgiveness. Sorry, but this was just an early example of "the message".
@kingcosworth2643
2 жыл бұрын
Love that movie, classic American style movie where the main protagonist is a morally corrupt bastard, but by the end they have an epiphany and become more morally sound than anybody else.
@wearebillionyearoldcarbon9563
2 жыл бұрын
100%
@coyotefever105
2 жыл бұрын
Great movie
@shadfallfan
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it shows that even in the end the 13% will be violent
@antalpoti
2 жыл бұрын
I was so hyped for this episode. This guy is probably the best movie critic on KZitem. He's free of the mind viruses, recommends what's truly worthy of recommending, honest and genuinely funny.
@_Dovar_
2 жыл бұрын
There are others, like MauLer, Nerdrotic, E;R, Nerdrotic.
@TrigonAZR
2 жыл бұрын
@@_Dovar_ yeah but they're quite a bit different. Gary is usually just angry as of late and Mauler doesn't do his unbridled rage video's too often. That being said, I recently discovered a channel called Little Platoon, which has a fair dose of dry British humour, long form reviews and at least for me works like a nice fusion of Mooler and Drinker. I'd recommend to check him out if you like the aforementioned
@kapoleon83
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@coltonwhite2518
2 жыл бұрын
@@_Dovar_ E;R doesn't post often, but when he does he comes back with an absolute bang. Watching his Halo and Death note critiques are so cathartic and I still watch his Star wars vids from time to time.
@gfwinn
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the Critical Drinker on most things but when it comes to being infested with leftists ideology it doesn’t get much worse than casting a black woman to play Ann Boleyn.
@Crichjo32
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. That was pure leftist propaganda.
@thedeathcake
2 жыл бұрын
Albert Wesker, resident evil.
@MyUserTubeAccount
2 жыл бұрын
racist! as greta would say, how dare you!
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
2 жыл бұрын
That's the kind of insanity that is driving GenXers to drink.
@princemwamba5230
2 жыл бұрын
@@thedeathcake naw wesker is at least fictional ann boelyn was a real person major difference
@justinmay8161
Жыл бұрын
"I don't give a shit. Just tell me the story". That was hilarious lol
@ChaoticOrder883
2 жыл бұрын
I love critical drinker. He made me realize how bad things really were. Being funny and brutally honest is a rare trait. It is something I myself enjoy and it made things easier to see.
@philipebbrell2793
Жыл бұрын
His Jodie Whitaker reviews had me in stitches. Sheer brilliance.
@ryanc1451
Жыл бұрын
aka "I love this guy. He opened my eyes to da troof. If it weren't for him, I'd have never stepped into the alt right radicalisation funnels" - He isn't brutally honest mate. He's a paid up agent prov. His appearance on this channel full of agitprop mongers, cementing that.
@denzelamarus5259
2 жыл бұрын
Almost every time I was not disappointed with Drinkers recommendations. His influence is actually reaching far outside the movie environment.
@Lonovavir
2 жыл бұрын
I got The Beast (or The Beast of War) because of him and wasn't disappointed. It's a solid and tragic look at war that's seriously underrated and needs more viewers. He also recommended Dark City, my favorite film.
@MicahMicahel
2 жыл бұрын
the one he was totally wrong about was Midsomner. He interpreted the ending as woke but it wasn't. We're so use to having woke movies the movie could be interpreted that way but it wasn't. Lots of people interpreted the ending incorrectly not realizing it was part of the whole theme of suicide murder.
@spawncampe
2 жыл бұрын
@@MicahMicahel movies are all about opinions. What kinda pisses me off about Drinker is that he tells his thoughts like they're facts. Not every marvel or star wars project is great, but there are several out there I still find significant enjoyment from, and some I didn't particularly like, I know several other ppl did. I thought Midsommar was solid, some think it's a masterpiece, some think it's garbage, but I really don't get is why is having a "message" bad now. Like his answer of saying it gets in the way of good storytellers is just his opinion, and sometimes he says that smth's woke but clearly has nothing to do with wokeness. He doesn't really make sense sometimes, I just watch the ones he recommends now. Also, it's kinda contradictory to always talk about politics if you're against movies pushing political messages. Like The Northman has 0% to do with modern politics or morals, but Drinker still had to mention "the message" in his review, like why?
@MicahMicahel
2 жыл бұрын
@@spawncampe MY point is that Midsomner wasn't using the message and that he outright misinterpreted the movie's ending as a feminist ending. These Pagans aren't feminist at all. She killed the boyfriend and she was also sacrificed.She learned to see beauty in her sister and parent's muder suicide. That's such a twisted story but he just watched it and saw the narrative. If someone makes a movie that doesn't have the narrative he's still seeing the narrative like as if ... maybe he's traumatized by the message being everywhere even when it isn't. Pagans weren't feminist. It's funny how feminists try to resurge the pagan religions but don't realize Paganism was more based than Christianity. Women were property that you could steal. the girl in Midsomner wasn't an idiot. she didn't think his boyfriend was getting his rocks off. He was being ra ped. It's crazy that Drinker thought the girl was so dumb that she wouldn't understand! he's forcing the narrative onto the movie... that's ironic! HE trues to se=scape the narrative and when it's not there he's making it be there. As far as the message not being impossible to come out with a good movie... I think the only movie that actually did a great job of integrating the "message' was that Del Toro movie, The Shape of Water. Marvel doesn't integrate the narrative in a way that makes for a good story. It looks like propaganda from Marvel but when Del Toro did it it worked. It's the same as Christianity. It's not impossible to have a great Christian movie or fiction book but it's hard to find one... because they try to force feed the message. Lewis and Tolkien succeeded where so many others just came out with Christian propaganda. They forced it into the tales.
@spawncampe
2 жыл бұрын
@@MicahMicahel yeah I totally agree with you. Critical Drinker just tries to find an agenda within any modern movie and I think he completely misinterpreted this film. Regardless, the film was still decently entertaining for me, that's what's irritating about Drinker, he'll have this standard for modern movies where if it references any modern political messages, it's automatically bad. Like what, why is it bad to have politics in movies, and if you don't like it, then fine, but that's just one element of the movie. Midsommar was a really solid movie which I didn't view as feministic, so I agree with you.
@talentedmrcollins4923
2 жыл бұрын
Victor Davis Hanson argues that the main reason for all the elitist virtue signalling is that it allows them to avoid criticism from the mob of their accumulated wealth and power.
@merrylderrickson3147
2 жыл бұрын
that has ALWAYS been the main reason. for decades hollywood's only access into "the public square" relied on philanthropy. it was simple. if you were famous, you were relegated to tabloids and gossip magazines. the only way out of that was to insert themselves (buy exposure) in "real world" capacities. The UN made themselves a vehicle to bring "legitimacy" to actors throughout the early 2000s. see, to the celebrity worship-class, that was unacceptable. they needed their cake and they needed to eat it, too. but it took effort and for a time they had to go the sean penn/bono route...willing to say anything to anybody if it meant being seen as "good"...and even then, were still rejected by the vast majority of the public as know-nothing moral capital opportunists people used to know the difference between words and actions. 20 years ago if MeToo had have "been exposed" it would have been a laughing stock...because it is. EVERYONE knew the deal...young pretty girls want to skip the line, skip acting class, stagework, toiling, and auditioning and waiting tables? Want to go right into being a star?...well, there's about 50 dudes who will put you in their new film for..a price. If im supposed to feel bad for millionaire 25 yearold famous actresses with multiple homes because they fcked some greasy producer..does that mean i should be weeping in horror for the paltry wages of a street walker? but i digress
@jaydamalley3398
2 жыл бұрын
You mean divide & conquer..
@themadmattster9647
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, same with woke corporations
@justaguyonyoutube4592
2 жыл бұрын
👆 This
@leithsapitan1428
2 жыл бұрын
VDH is inspirational. The movie makers need a consult with him before trying yet again to make a crappie woke movie that's not stunning or brave!
@antimatter4444
2 жыл бұрын
Crital Drinker is awesome, thanks for having him on the show!
@manfrombritain6816
2 жыл бұрын
i had no idea this crossover was coming and i'm so hyped. TCD is brilliant at breaking down stories, he's helped me get better at writing
@stewheart
2 жыл бұрын
He helped me improve my drinking.
@tubetorpedo
2 жыл бұрын
@@stewheart He helped me to improve my ability to say more often to my guest: Go away now!
@michaeldavid6832
2 жыл бұрын
Check out Mauler. He can rip apart plot holes like nobody.
@michaelwills1926
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldavid6832 love Mauler and you’re right
@chucksenhowzen9740
2 жыл бұрын
My favorite KZitem page the Critical Drinker, was so honored when he asked me to do a Happy Hour with him reviewing Cobra Kai this Past January 🐍
@TheMissing8
2 жыл бұрын
I would add Northman to that list of movies alongside Top Gun. I can't imagine any other director in Hollywood taking that story, considering Netflix made a spin off Vikings show and turned a historical Viking character into a black female.
@monkfishy6348
2 жыл бұрын
The Northman didn't do well at the box office.
@bakerhewitt2323
2 жыл бұрын
@@monkfishy6348 so? It's an incredible movie
@budigunawan5624
2 жыл бұрын
@@bakerhewitt2323 no it isn't. unintentionally funny at times.
@Zerradable
2 жыл бұрын
@@bakerhewitt2323 nope.
@psycho_chicken_9589
2 жыл бұрын
maybe i had too much expectations regarding The Northman, a one time watch for me...i would point out Dune, loved everything in it, it just felt short, i wanted more and more...super happy the studio gave the go ahead to make the second part.
@Omegaphoenix128
Жыл бұрын
What strikes me about film post 2016 is the disappearance of the "finding common humanity" theme lines up with the "half of the US is evil, and there can be no peace" beleif that became so pervasive. The writers and ideologues of Hollywood don't want feel good stories about coming together. They want stories that can justify their hatred of their fellow country men. They want angry, gross, and nihilistic films that reflects the world they see in their broken mirrors.
@jnauttube
2 жыл бұрын
Proud to say I was a Drinker fan when his channel was just a small concern with a few thousand subs.
@theminister1154
2 жыл бұрын
I got in early on all the Fellowship channels for exactly the same reason many people did: needed to work through my RAGE at Kathleen Kennedy, her lil' minion Ruin, and The Last Mary Sue. The payoff is I've learned an awful lot about human nature & storytelling since. Think I could write passable scripts now. Even fixed the Sequel Trilogy: Kylo chops off rey's hands early in 3 but lets her live, Rey freaks 'cause she's never lost before, Force Ghost Snoke whispers her to the dark side, she DEMOLISHES Kylo & takes over the First Order as per the vision in TLMS. In parallel Finn becomes a real (low power) Jedi through the real Hero's Journey (force ghost Luke/Obiwan mentor(s) & that barely suffices to save the Remnant. In other words you turn the whole trilogy into The Empire Strikes back + a bit of New Hope. Only way to fix it. Next trilogy is either an echo where Finn redeems Rey or something more clever another writer invents.
@marcinpawelw
2 жыл бұрын
Rel.
@roywilson4514
2 жыл бұрын
Idiots
@jamesfoley6939
2 жыл бұрын
Same
@Vapor.Steve77
2 жыл бұрын
Drinker have one of the most brilliant jokes/concepts. Now you only have to say "THE MESSAGE" to explain a complex political reality
@jordanmcpherson3794
2 жыл бұрын
As an American, namely from the South (Texas), it amazes me how our politics, entertainment, and culture have the eyes and ears of countries from afar. It really is annoying, here. I've lost friends since 2016 over the political meshing with social media. They went crazy. I'm not far-right or left, but so many people here that I know suddenly embraced the leftism that the mainstream media was peddling like it was the second coming of Christ.
@TheMagicOwL127
Жыл бұрын
two very good points: 2016 elections divided the states, and even more, families, friend groups, and yes, leftis is a replacement of religion.
@mratlas3364
Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how divided the US is. And we’re literally bordering on the cusp of a civil war. I was watching a couple episodes of Entourage last week and suddenly found myself “offended” because of how crass some of the jokes were. But then I thought about it for a moment and realized I was failing to appreciate the humor of the entertainment.
@andrewkandasamy
Жыл бұрын
@@mratlas3364 EDIT: My bad. I didn't realize this comment chain happened a year ago. The division in the US is mostly caused by the fact the US is so geographically large and exacerbated by its governmental structure. The issues and problems people face in everyday life are very, very different depending on where in the US you are. So are the cultures. The US is less one unified country and more like an empire comprised of 50 countries. People are more likely to care about problems that they actually can see in their everyday life. Their solutions are going to be guided by their different moral and value systems which are influenced by the cultures and environments they grew up in. I would be very surprised if the US agreed across the board on pretty much anything unless there is a ubiquitous shift in from extreme individualism towards a more societal mindset.
@mratlas3364
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewkandasamy Response to your first paragraph: I legit explained this exact same sentiment to an Australian friend of mine when he asked about the Electoral College.... People always cry about it being "uNfAiR" when their candidate loses.... Yet champion it when their candidate wins. - The entire point of the EC is to prevent the marginalization of individuals and smaller communities that don't share the same ideals as everyone else. Otherwise we might as well turn into San Francisco and Los Angeles (hard pass). Second para: Based and true!! There's very little that people will fully agree with each other on anymore. Individualism is actually going to be what tears the country apart. Everybody cries to be respected but nobody wants to respect anyone else.
@GarrettLoganGriffin
Жыл бұрын
I just discovered this channel. I can’t even begin to tell you how much I appreciate ANYONE who is coming out and speaking the truth, and asking the questions which need to be asked. Challenging and criticizing the things that have become taboo subjects. Then I see you have The Critical Effin’ Drinker as a guest?????? You just made my year.
@cyrollan
Жыл бұрын
So someone is "speaking the truth"....just cause you share the same beliefs? Gotcha ✅
@yewtewbstew547
Жыл бұрын
@@cyrollan Where's the lie?
@Stormtrooper53
2 жыл бұрын
I fear the message Hollywood is going to glean from Maverick isn't that people want to go see movies that are positive and aren't cynical, but that they want to see movies that continue the stories of movies we all loved decades ago.
@ge2719
2 жыл бұрын
whats to fear then? thats all they have been doing the past decade... they cant exactly do MORE sequel/reboots than they already are.
@ryanc1451
Жыл бұрын
@@ge2719 imagine, instead of focusing on the sequels and reboots, you actually focused on the solid semi independent movies coming out of smaller studios within hollywood... But then again, that wouldn't allow you and Critical to play as victims of the "message", would it? Notice how he only ever goes after mainstream content and never actually praises anything, in favour of shitting on easy, sitting duck targets? Its almost as if he realises he has a base of dedicated simps who'll defend him and his crusade against "the message" to the death. All whilst ironically ignoring the fact that Drinker and his backers at places like Daily Wire are pushing their own brand of the "message"... You fucking hypocrites.
@ManuelBarner
Жыл бұрын
@@ge2719 I don't know though, how many spider mans and bat mans have there been already? I fear there is room for at least half a dozen more Indiana Jones's, at least a dozen Obi Wan origin stories and at least three horrible written Witcher reboots..
@zaphael7238
Жыл бұрын
Or worse yet another reboot. If I have to see another ‘reimagining’ of an older thing I’m gonna scream.
@ryanc1451
Жыл бұрын
@@zaphael7238 you don't have to see a thing you don't want... Unless you're a droog in Clockwork Orange... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂So, what you whinging for?
@animaloverload7465
2 жыл бұрын
I always go to the Drinker for an honest movie review, he NEVER holds back.
@AshPrimeDCFC
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Probably my favourite KZitemr. Been subbed since he reviewed the final season of Game of Thrones and he's gone from strength to strength since. Can't wait!
@clumsytriangle2436
2 жыл бұрын
Agree with this 100%. This is the reason I'd rather rewatch oldies - movies and TV shows - than anything being spewed out currently. My feeling it is going to get even worse because of the increase in wokeness and virtue signalling. The current generation will be the movie makers of the future - god help us...
@patbateman9187
2 жыл бұрын
"why did I accept the invitation from these guys??" "Doun't knouw" 🕶️🥃 I bursted out of laughter watching Tyrone Magnus reacting to The Critical Drinker. He says a lot of true things like "THE MESSAGE" that people like me are eager to hear. It's unbearable the level of mediocrity, Wokeism, dire storytelling, etc of "movies" nowadays...
@jayak3768
2 жыл бұрын
Very honestly, I am quite fascinated by Drinker's ability to write poetry in his reviews, to articulate the issue very well and to give depth and perception to the matter in way that it becomes obvious for people to understand and absorb.
@hcook1023
2 жыл бұрын
All while sounding hammered off his ass
@christscrackers647
2 жыл бұрын
In essence, the Drinker has an amazing way with words.
@noktilux4052
2 жыл бұрын
@@christscrackers647 He certainly didn't display any of that in the first 15 minutes of this interview, at which point I gave up.
@shivamib
2 жыл бұрын
Its almost like he's a writer or something
@jayak3768
2 жыл бұрын
@@noktilux4052 u need to listen to his commentary on various movie and topics related to social issues.
@kernowpolski
2 жыл бұрын
Two of my favourite KZitem channels together - just great!
@tylerblack676
2 жыл бұрын
I just text my brother saying, "Holy shit! Drinker's on TRIGGERnometry tonight! My two favourite channels talking about my two favourite topics!"
@KidFresh71
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this conversation so much. The Critical Drinker has really been able to articulate what was bugging me so much about modern movies. It's the underlying, constant hammering of THE MESSAGE; instead of just focusing on entertaining an audience. Everything today needs to be dark, jaded, cynical, meta, self-aware and sarcastic. What's wrong with just having fun, being positive and upbeat, and leaving your audience feeling good?
@jacka3080
2 жыл бұрын
I've been following Will since his earlier KZitem days and he deserves his success. Enjoyed this a lot.
@TtotheCizzel
2 жыл бұрын
I'l always remember a sociology lectured responding to "The standard set for male attraction is too high" with "yeah well there is a lot of making up to do for how women where treated for so long". Literally like a revenge driven mindset going on
@MasterBlaster220
2 жыл бұрын
Here is the redpill for you: Unlike women, MEN dont care at all what some other people or "society" expects from them. Its called backbone.
@ryanc1451
Жыл бұрын
Awww, are women treating you how you've treated them over the years? Tell us more about how that hurts your feelings and leaves you in fear of revenge driven reprisals...
@sylviam6535
Жыл бұрын
People need to understand and that these liberation and equality movements are based on an oppressor/oppressed model and are ultimately looking for revenge.
@sylviam6535
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanc1451 - Oh yes, these movements are so powerful that they need the government to put the thumb on the scale for them at every turn… These movements are getting pretty close being put in their place. Of course, these idiots will be the most surprised when that happens. You’ll be one of them.
@nordic_gamer_1438
Жыл бұрын
@@ryanc1451 Estrogenated take
@questor55
2 жыл бұрын
Not just Disney. Diversity / Representation quotas are mandatory just about everywhere. I left the TV industry in NZ a couple of years ago and only survived there for a few years because the characters in my show were made of plasticine, and not very easy to racially identify. And even then, my boss asked me to make one of them brown.
@Moveplaylift
2 жыл бұрын
it wasnt Kiri and Lou was it? My daughter loves that hahaha
@philodonoghue3062
2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, mate. I’m watching KZitem because I’m always having to switch off that shit on TVOne, RNZ, etc.
@tjw4947
Жыл бұрын
The reason I ceased enjoying the cinema is the ability to escape my own troubled existence for a few hours has been lost. When I leave the theater feeling worse than when I first sat down it is not an experience I would wish to repeat and certainly not pay for. My time and my wallet are already too thinly spread.
@indy_go_blue6048
Жыл бұрын
My last theater experience was definitely something I didn't want to repeat. The movie started 15 minutes late, then after the half hour of previews and advertisements, Star Wars 2, The Return of the Barf Bag began at about 110 dB. I found myself constantly reaching for the remote to drop the volume. Then the noisy ass people. That was 2003, and frankly I don't miss it.
@michaelhampner7672
2 жыл бұрын
One of the well spoken movie critics on KZitem. Love his channel.
@markvandenberg4606
2 жыл бұрын
I love how well-spoken Will is. An interview like this is different than rattling off a script on the screen in front of you. Well done, pal.
@manoflowmoralvalue1560
2 жыл бұрын
In vite veritas? In drinks truth?
@noktilux4052
2 жыл бұрын
I thought he was very disappointing, not only in the way he expressed himself, but his appalling taste in film. Star Wars? FFS!
@firecrackerjack68
2 жыл бұрын
@@manoflowmoralvalue1560 in vino veritas
@firecrackerjack68
2 жыл бұрын
@@noktilux4052 found the shill
@noktilux4052
2 жыл бұрын
@@firecrackerjack68 I seriously don't know what you mean.
@DarkKitarist
2 жыл бұрын
And this is how we got The Rings of Power... PJ's LOTR trilogy isn't a perfect adaptation of Tolkien, but let's be honest it didn't have modern politics in it and from a cinematic standpoint it's all but perfect and ageless... Even in 20,40 or 60 years you can watch and be at awe how good LOTR looks... Guess actually filming at an awesome location and not using green screen soo much makes movies better... Who knew...
@KLWarlord
2 жыл бұрын
That's the key term: ageless. All this Woke stuff we're getting now has a strict expiration date, and history will look back at this collection of writing and cringe hard enough to pull muscles. It's sad especially to see fantasy settings like LOTR that could and should be eternally enjoyed be given this treatment to where it will age horribly. Like giving a baby high doses of meth.
@abeedo
2 жыл бұрын
I mean there were politics even in the original movies, which were adapted from their books. Éowyn (a woman) fought and killed the Lord of the Nazgûl. Nobody batted an eye back then, but nowadays you'd probably find that the Critical Drinker made a video about how the movies are a bit "woke".
@KLWarlord
2 жыл бұрын
@@abeedo Not the same thing. A woman doing something cool or badass in itself isn't bad. It comes down to honest storytelling. If said woman picks up a sword and is instantly better than trained soldiers, you should know that something is wrong.
@johnneville403
2 жыл бұрын
@@jessejames3660 Correct. He's also always praising the character of Ripley in Alien - how to write strong female characters brilliantly.
@trimamimi
2 жыл бұрын
@@KLWarlord u
@MasterQuiefx
Жыл бұрын
It's so fascinating to watch this as an American and see how outside perspectives view modern Hollywood. This speaks volumes that people are too naive now to listen to. Love the Drinker, he deserves the recognition and support. Spread the word.
@bobsmith5185
2 жыл бұрын
As amazing as the Drinker is at reviewing films, etc., he glossed over woke films like The Force Awakens, the female Ghostbusters, etc., having been made before Trump. Trump was the reaction to woke, not its cause. The reaction might have spurred on some additional wokeness, but it was gonna come hard anyway.
@offshoretomorrow3346
2 жыл бұрын
Correct - US Universities collapsed to Woke poison decades ago.
@gwyn111
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Social media circa 2010 was probably the main cause of the move towards Woke and the 2016 election was the backlash to that. You can see the cutoff when politcally incorrect shows and movies were being made in the late 2000s, e.g. HIMYM or I Now Pronounce you Chuck and Larry which could clearly never fly past 2010 in the Social Media era.
@bobsmith5185
2 жыл бұрын
@@gwyn111 The prevalence of smart phones, with notifications & constant access, was more important than social media itself.
@gwyn111
2 жыл бұрын
@@bobsmith5185 true also, probably a combination of the two as they go hand in hand typically, giving the instant access to information and easy to access social media apps.
@LeonardTavast
2 жыл бұрын
According to bibliometric analysis of American newspapers wokeness begun getting traction around 2010.
@Primo420
2 жыл бұрын
The constant bombardment of politics in modern movies has almost destroyed my love for film - I rarely watch newer movies. If you want/need to see a strong female character in a film, go watch Misery godamn it!
@jorgem.1564
2 жыл бұрын
Same here Starting during covid I went back and watched a ton of old movies. I still do. Rarely watch newer stuff.
@lescorlett4133
2 жыл бұрын
Ripley in Aliens does it for me.
@grannyannie2948
2 жыл бұрын
I have always loved Gone With the Wind. Which is over eighty years old.
@Orbweaver-Creations
2 жыл бұрын
@@lescorlett4133 nailed it.
@barbarabaker1457
2 жыл бұрын
Searching for Bobby Fischer for me. Probably too feminine and traditional for most but I loved that woman.
@TheWillHadcroft
2 жыл бұрын
I was riveted to this throughout. Lovely to see him being more Will Jordan than the Drinker and being somebody else's guest in a proper interview setting. Excellent intelligent discussion.
@Biggiiful
2 жыл бұрын
If you haven't already, check out his other channel, Drinker's After Hours. He does streams on there talking with guests about individual films. And he's not playing his Drinker character. Just being Will.
@TheWillHadcroft
2 жыл бұрын
@@Biggiiful Yes, I have seen some of those After Hours chats. But, thanks for the reminder!
@grahamstrouse1165
2 жыл бұрын
@@Biggiiful I’ll have to check that one out. 🙂
@justinpreid
2 жыл бұрын
Lol that he shares the same name as 1 of the world's supreme Rugby players.
@justinsolomita9283
Жыл бұрын
I’m a screenwriter. Life is too short to waste time pandering to MODERN AUDIENCES!!!
@Zazzaro703
2 жыл бұрын
Hollywood is so uncreative and full of poor ideas and writing that I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if James Bond came back as a black man because he was in an explosion.
@ind0g_nesia
2 жыл бұрын
that's true, they even scooped some stupid ideas from dumb*ss fan theories and made it happens in spider-c*nt no way home.
@thestellarator815
2 жыл бұрын
"There's a right way to think, but it must be enforced" That's the best description I've seen of social justice!
@MichaelPohoreski
2 жыл бұрын
*Fallacy of Duality:* _If you aren't against X then you "must" be for X._ Cults, and most religions, use the same tactic: _There is only ONE way._ Stupid Juvenile Whiners pretend to be inclusive but are even more exclusive.
@jeremypnet
2 жыл бұрын
Diversity in everything but thought.
@A_YouTube_Commenter
2 жыл бұрын
THANKS for having the Critical Drinker on! I love the conversation. These work better than rants.
@margaretgrey4238
Жыл бұрын
Bait and Switch used for, "You will own nothing, we will own you and yours, and we will be happy, and don't care if you exist or live. Robots deserve more than humans."
@garylancaster8612
2 жыл бұрын
Hang on, The Drinker looks suspiciously healthy, fit, tanned, clear eyed, articulate. Is he not really a "barely functioning Scottish alcoholic" then? I wish he'd review Interceptor on Netflix, it ticks all the "The Message " boxes and then some and the female protagonist is both Stunning and Brave.
@jennyj0007
2 жыл бұрын
He's easy on the eyes too😛
@twn5858
2 жыл бұрын
Fooling the dumb masses. Would you expect anything less from these KZitem characters? They're full of shit.
@doesntmatter7485
2 жыл бұрын
Thinking exactly this. Tall too!
@Dancestar1981
2 жыл бұрын
So true
@Lonovavir
2 жыл бұрын
He ran out of Jack Daniels, not that I had anything to do with that.
@captainz9
2 жыл бұрын
Bob Chapek: "I'm only interested in profit" Some employees & audience - a vocal minority: "REEEE!! You must be racist!!" What happened: "I bend the knee to you and kiss your behind" and continual losses ... What *should* have happened: "thank you for identifying yourselves... You're fired. Good luck in the future, but here at Disney we are interested in making money, not pushing THE MESSAGE while losing money."
@JPnielsen
2 жыл бұрын
The Drinker is great. Good to see him on here
@Vitrolin2408
2 жыл бұрын
People still love Cinema and will turn-out for a good movie. I went to Love and Thunder; and was mostly an empty theatre, prime-time on a Saturday night. I went to The Godfather 50th anniversary rescreen; and the cinema was 100% filled to capacity. For the 'right' movie; people will show up in armies.
@lightweightjive
2 жыл бұрын
I hope he tells them to “go away now” and then Francis will butcher a Scottish accent.
@djllewellyn6277
2 жыл бұрын
Having the drinker on this show is so awesome and unexpected. Well done guys!
@daz4627
2 жыл бұрын
What Will talks about is so pervasive, it's almost like breathing the air... This has nothing to do with movies but I just read an article on some syndicated news feed about NASA's plans for a return to the Moon ... the young(ish) female author let us all know in her opening salvo that, so far, the Moon has been visited by 12 white American males ... not 12 astronauts ... one of the greatest feats ever achieved has been reduced to another rant... what chance does anything else have when the (media) deck is so stacked?
@seanthomas1552
2 жыл бұрын
I mean...is she wrong?
@daz4627
2 жыл бұрын
@@seanthomas1552 Literally, no. The point I'm making is that the moon landings were never a gender-specific project... NASA initially recruited pilots from the military and that was the pool they had to play with... the journalist could have reported it for what is was; being American astronauts landing on the moon but she played the gender card and tried to make something of it... the inclusion of someone for a specific task should be based on their ability and not their gender... if the result of that criteria means the pool becomes 100% male OR 100% female then so be it... should Sir Edmund Hillary be chastised for summiting with a male Sherpa instead of a female Sherpa?
@joemackey1950
2 жыл бұрын
@@daz4627 Not just male, but a trans male! :)
@ronsargeant8371
Жыл бұрын
Selective wishful retconning. Of course the first human on the moon should have been female, there were hundreds of female test pilots to choose from. But there would never have been an Adele Hitler in this retcon fantasy, even though the Normandy landings would have been a girls day out.
@physicsguy877
9 ай бұрын
When you say you want movies to be more patriotic, you aren't saying you want politics out of movies, just that you want different politics in movies.
@patrickkilroy6512
2 жыл бұрын
I've been listening to some lectures by a Philosophy Professor from the 80s called Michael Sugrue, and I think he has a great rubric for thinking about how a movie that is critical of society can be done. He refers to satires and critical stories as either coming from two distinct traditions in Western cultures that go back to the two Roman poets Horace and Juvenal. Horace writes in a self-effacing manner, making a broad and at times humorous assessment of human flaws that apply to us all, and as you laugh you also recognise yourself in the foolishness and the medicine of self-criticism goes down easier and in a productive manner that doesn't pit us against one another. Juvenal on the other hand, is a scathing and unrelenting critic who spits venom as he speaks, in such a way that makes you think he has an awfully high opinion of himself, and yet he does this with such literary flare and with such potent imagery that he is nonetheless awesome (in the literal sense of the word) to read. You don't like him as a person, and perhaps the criticism is so sharp that you are loathe to recognise it in yourself, but you do recognise it as true in other people. Both are great in their own ways, and later exemplars of Horace's style include Erasmus, while later exemplars of Juvenal's style include Jonathan Swift who wrote Gulliver's Travels. What we have today is NEITHER of these two. We have the biting arrogant criticism of the entire world hat Juvenal has, but without any of the literary flare, without the creativity, without the strength of depiction and most importantly without the independence of thought or novelty of perspective to make it good satire. And we certainly don't have any of Horace's self-effacement, pretty much all the criticism is wagging the finger at you the audience or at other people which you the audience are supposed to then hate. The only time it is self-critical is when it is also bleak and penitent, with little hope of true redemption or forgiveness, only perpetual repentance and submission. And worst of all, it is done in collectivist language. No longer is this about the human condition, it is about the societal condition. We individuals do not have the agency and choice we once had, what we do individually is overridden by what MUST happen societally. We do not share in the experiences of humanity, we only share in the burden of responsibility to fix the experiences of some of humanity. We must enter the service of an ideology, believing in something even when it is not experientially evident to us, and serving it without regard for ourselves. kzitem.info/news/bejne/0aVtt3eEj6B6raw If anyone's interested, recommend giving this lecture a listen.
@boobookitty16
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, very cool comment. Deserves more thumbs ups! (Thumb ups?)
@johnneville403
2 жыл бұрын
@@boobookitty16 I agree.
@Kitty-Cattie
Жыл бұрын
Woh this is so fascinating! Watching your link ❤
@jgharding2
Жыл бұрын
Sugrue is a treasure for sure
@grim_2000
Жыл бұрын
@@boobookitty16 neither. Thumbs up. Cause there are multiple thumbs, but they're all pointing in the same direction )))
@missygoldstein12
2 жыл бұрын
Not a movie but I watched Grey's anatomy from the first episode and for nearly 2 decades never missed an episode. Than out of nowhere each episode had a very overt political message and heavy handed speech from a cast member. People defend the show saying it was always this way. No it wasn't. At all at the end of each episode I felt shamed talked down to and it was not interesting fun or entertaining. I eventually gave up and stopped watching
@Dancestar1981
2 жыл бұрын
We stopped watching as soon as we saw any hint of it
@Irishrose18
2 жыл бұрын
They did this to Law and Order SVU as well . As a lover of all Law and Order shows( except for the new one with Stabler) it’s barely watchable anymore. I’m still on the fence with the new Law and Order reboot with Anthony Anderson but I don’t have high hopes.
@anthonybrett
2 жыл бұрын
My wife watched New Amsterdam for a while there, which meant I had to watch it. ;) That entire series is an ideological powerhouse of pure shit. In one episode, they literally replaced all the police at the hospital with black security doorman who'd lost their jobs from COVID. They replaced the police because the staff at the hospital felt triggered by them. It was around the time that the woke left wanted to defund the police.
@missygoldstein12
2 жыл бұрын
@@Irishrose18 at the end of the day it all comes down to one thing. $$$. If Ratings drop and movie studios can't put asses in the seats than they will stop it. I do remember one episode of Grey's anatomy where a young Amish girl had advanced cervical cancer and the doctor said "so preventable". Perhaps messages like these are ok as they have a huge audience and can encourage people to get screened. I don't object to this. But what we see today is here are our political views laid out and now we want YOU to agree with us 100%. Great way to alienate your audience
@MrBrachiatingApe
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm insensitive, overly prideful, or contrarian (though the answer is probably secret option D: all of the above) but I've never seen a program capable of making me feel ashamed. The moment shows attempt to tread in that territory consciously I know the writer is my enemy. (Or perhaps, at best, a fool.) And if they set up a situation where a person who's done something really awful might feel ashamed, well, I simply haven't done anything awful enough that merely being reminded by a TV screen makes me feel my transgressions that strongly. I don't mean to sound superior or haughty; I just want to advise people to cultivate that kind of attitude toward media. The people writing it are absolutely no better than you; they do not have the moral standing generally or the knowledge specifically to look into your soul and scourge you for your shortcomings. If they try to do so anyway they are either your enemy or a fool.
@Makingnewnamesisdumb
2 жыл бұрын
That's a good observation that I hadn't thought about but it's true - it used to be that the big pivotal twist in a big movie would be that enemies had to become friends to overcome a greater evil that they couldn't stand up to otherwise, and now so many movies go for the twist of someone we thought was our friend was actually the enemy the whole time. Unity is now division.
@anthonyogletree6660
Жыл бұрын
Are films giving the public what they WANT to see or are films TELLING the public what they want to see?
@tadradagast19
2 жыл бұрын
I recently watched a couple 20 or so years old movies I had never seen before, Black Hawk Down and Master and Command. It's amazing how different the writing style is compared to modern movies, so much more ambiguous about right and wrong and focus on what the story says about humanity rather than how the writers make the story say what they need it to say about people to match there world view.
@entropyfan5714
2 жыл бұрын
The modern left are just poor excuses for propagandists: the freakin nazis were not so obvious & that was nearly a century ago.
@theNeathBoy
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Master and Commander is a rarity. It is excellent, well directed, great screenplay and acting and does a good job of being historically accurate. Just a shame it didn’t pull in the money for another story. A shame, considering there is a wealth of books to draw from.
@chriswhite2151
2 жыл бұрын
I watched Disney's "High School Musical" from 2006....it felt like it was made in the 50's compared to now.
@b.chaline4394
2 жыл бұрын
Master and Commander is quite possibly my favourite film of all time (yes, even tho I'm French!... but we're quite prone to masochism over here^^) and it's terrible to think that it would not be made today. An entirely male and white cast, can you imagine the backlash?
@MagcargoMan
2 жыл бұрын
@@theNeathBoy Accurate? Didn't that movie swap the roles of the French and the British/Americans?
@greebj
2 жыл бұрын
When I took the family to see The Last Jedi at Imax I was livid. All I could think for the last hour was "I gave them my money to sit here raging at the retardation of the plot and all the characters in this movie " It was and will be the last cent I ever willingly pay for a movie. Parody we would laugh at 30-40 years ago is straight faced storytelling now.... The "tis but a scratch" skit with the Black Knight was a funny. Whereas a gutting with a lightsaber caused Reva a slight limp and some occasional constipation face, and it was supposed to be believable
@Paulomedi
2 жыл бұрын
Almost the same here. When I exited Last Jedi, I knew for sure that I wasn't the target audience anymore. I wondered who was, till I started noticing them on the internet. Since then, the only two movies that I watched on theaters were Alita Battle Angel and Top Gun: Maverick.
@thirdmeow2270
2 жыл бұрын
It's all about weak men and strong whaman.
@seanthomas1552
2 жыл бұрын
@@Paulomedi Kids....its always been kids...you manchildren.
@colz848
2 жыл бұрын
I had seen it coming for a good while before last jedi, I had the same feeling watching the farce awakens, it was getting amazing reviews and I was sitting watching it thinking it was just a really bad attempt at a remake of a new hope, never been back to a cinema since
@Temptation666
2 жыл бұрын
Never seen Last Jedi. I was 13 in 1977 when i saw Star Wars in Cinema for the first time. I have been a fan since. But when the boys and i went home after The Force awaken i told them i would never watch another Disney Wars. Saved me a lot of pain i think.
@gordonloughton9800
2 жыл бұрын
I worked for a film distribution company in London in the year 1969. The company had it's own screen in the basement with a professional operator who had of course seen a lot of films in his life. He described the film industry as a sausage machine with little effort put into quality, he would be horrified to see some of the junk put out now.
@David-cf2iq
Жыл бұрын
"That's all I've got for now. Go away now". One of the best lines on the intertubes
@Angel-yz8gt
2 жыл бұрын
Dirty dancing partially worked because of authenticity. It was about middle-class resorts, written in part by a woman who knew that culture and who could create a setting. World building is necessary
@jayjaydubful
2 жыл бұрын
Dirty Dancing covered complex social issues in a really subtle way. Masterpiece
@BasementPepperoni
2 жыл бұрын
@@jayjaydubful It was also written during a time when half of the country wasn't infected with TDS or Uber narcissistic personality disorders.
@Foremarkex
2 жыл бұрын
I found this with "Lucifer". It has a classical moralist discussion all the way through but atleast it's well written, then in the last season they just change over to "Slap you around the head with it" with several moments where they literally spell out "It's toxic masculinity" and then "Oh, Thank you for explaining that, I'm going to be a better person." all in the last season and it's painful.
@martinkunz7155
2 жыл бұрын
I kinda enjoyed the show but tuned out after the 1st or 2nd episode of the last season when they introduced his daughter or whatever she was. I fully expected they'd use an obnoxious "stunning and brave" female to trash all the male characters and couldn't bring myself to even watch it any further.
@Foremarkex
2 жыл бұрын
@@martinkunz7155 It's a good example. I personally liked what they did with Eve and Mazakeen, The strong women feature which had gone through the entire series, but it worked, and was generally well written; Good characters with valid arcs, tempered with the same fate/destiny questions, and their decisions, lifestyles and other features all make consistent, well written sense. Then they introduce time-travelling edgy daughter, and try to wrap up any and all remaining loose ends. She becomes the most chaotic series of not-arcs that get woven together in to the most... confused? character I have ever watched, mostly because everything they sort of start... tapers off without resolution. Coming-out-as-trans seems planned and then just does'nt happen, and the end resolution for her is just confused. But in the middle of this, they resolve the Eve-Mazey relationship with making the progenitor of man, Adam, return as the greatest cliche in history, and everyone seem to act out of character before he just says "Turns out it's Toxic Masculinity, I'm getting help" in the most ham-fisted character arc that just wasn't needed. Quite a lot of the arcs of the last season start, sort-of-realise it's been done before, better in earlier seasons, then crash.
@TheFailedmessiah
2 жыл бұрын
Wasnt the show written by two lesbians? I could be wrong. The show Lucifer is one of my dads favorite shows. The last season was horrible.
@LeSyd1984
2 жыл бұрын
Fairly certain the last few season wasn't produced by the original writers, directors and overall studio... which kind of explains the switch in direction and quite frankly... quality.
@spawncampe
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I loved Lucifer season 1-3, 4 was solid cause it went to more supernatural things. S5 was shite, S6 was fun but flawed
@Gunni1972
2 жыл бұрын
NOT going tp the Cinema Is part of my mental health management nowadays. Politics, Economy, everything goes to shit. I just don't want to try to entertain myself and come out of the theater asking myself: Why did i spend 20 bucks on that?
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