I really appreciate how Liam’s been playing this whole thing. I don’t think anyone could’ve predicted how the fandom would react to this whole thing, and it’s hard to know what to do when everyone angry at how you want to play your characters. He only stated that Caleb would fancy Jester in TalksM because it made sense in character, but he’s never brought it up in game because 1. it never really made sense in character for Caleb to pursue anything, and 2. he knew that there were other options and he didn’t want to intrude on anything Laura, Travis or Marisha wanted to do. It’s really respectable. So that’s how I see this scene. He wanted to give both Caleb’s feelings towards Jester and Widowjest shippers some recognition/closure. Understanding that “yes, this is happening, but it’s not what Laura/Jester wants, so let’s drop it.” And besides, Liam loves emotional angst, I don’t think he’s too torn up about this.
@arthaiser
3 жыл бұрын
i dont think that liam cares much for the widowjesters or any other name for ships. liam cares for the game and for the character of the game for me, liam has done what caleb would have done. caleb thinks that he is the worst, and he likes jester because she is a good person, he sees in jester what his life could have been if only he wasnt terrible. caleb is in love but he would have never ever done a move first towards that, not because laura has other plans or things like that but because he(caleb) personally thinks that is not deserving of her. plus caleb is not an idiot, he sees that jester has other options around and he himself sees those options as "better" for her, liam has said that much on talks. that doesnt mean that caleb is going to stop helping jester with anything because he wasnt doing it for the ship reason to begin with, that reading book think, all the help towards the traverlercon... he simply likes to help her, and also the rest of the nein. caleb has been like that from the beginning, trying to help his allies. sure, the first 30 or so episodes he was doing it because i was convenient, but right now he is doing it because he cares about them, and when caleb cares, he cares a lot, he would know better than anyone to appreciate someone because his very essence as a character has to do with losing people that he cared about.
@spaced_out_cadet
3 жыл бұрын
@@arthaiser that’s also a really good point, yeah, I agree with that
@moiisgood
3 жыл бұрын
I actually kind of feel though, that his moment of recognition was the fact that he sees in Jester and Fjord what he had with Astrid. So he has just realised what happened as he has gone through something similar before.
@spaced_out_cadet
3 жыл бұрын
@@moiisgood absolutely! it makes sense in character
@LydiaTereK
3 жыл бұрын
“Fellow crew mates: tis a sad day our ship sank under cannon fire, and has finally gone under the waves, buried deep in the infinite depths of fan art and fiction. So as we gather here by chance, I ask you this, what do yall think about our wizard here: Astrid, Essek, or finding peace and happiness in solitude?” Or surprise me with other theories! I’m just curious, so critters, don’t forget to love each other, thank you ! 🙏
@moiisgood
3 жыл бұрын
Before anything he must find peace and happiness in solitude, otherwise he won't be able to push himself to love 😔😔
@XCrawlFan
3 жыл бұрын
I think Astrid is a step back, but the heart often wants what it wants...
@zxcv532
3 жыл бұрын
This is a super realistic scene tbh. We could have feelings for some people, even fall in love with them...but sometimes they are not the ones for you and you need to let them go. That silent recognition, at least for me, is Caleb moving on on his romantics feelings for Jester. I feel you Caleb, I feel you....
@spartanchief2
3 жыл бұрын
Felt to me like it was silent confirmation that he is undeserving of her love because he is a terrible person and would naturally chose Fjord over him, which she did. Though it could be both.
@dcampbell6988
3 жыл бұрын
And the next Big-Bad of Campaign 2 is . . .
@soldier660
3 жыл бұрын
Also sorry Caleb... the sad guys, stays alone...
@sonlen796
3 жыл бұрын
I love how when Liam asks Laura/Travis if they're cuddling fast asleep, you know exactly what he's planning and you know that HE knows what he's going to do. It's honestly beautifully subtle. No hurt feelings, no emotional turmoil. He just simply lets it go.
@zeriul09
3 жыл бұрын
poor caleb, tbh sappfire would be nice but i just want to see him happy, i dont really care who he ends up with
@Virtualmess32
3 жыл бұрын
:(
@soldier660
3 жыл бұрын
daam... this new format is very bad.. i hate have to look at everyone from a different angle, instead of simple 2x2 complete full. daam... not looking foward to this.
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