Wow...85ft, God forbid you have to use your legs and take 50 steps. Outrageous! And this is how progress gets impeded.
@thomascropper2865
3 жыл бұрын
86 feet ….People are complaining about 86 feet ? …..Relative to other transit systems in the US ,this station isn’t that deep , on the east coast it’s not uncommon to have underground rail stations that are almost 200 ft underground , that said ,the problem here isn’t the depth of the station , it’s the efficiency of the methods used to transport people from street level to platform level
@kevinhoward9593
2 жыл бұрын
yup. Forest Glen Station is so deep you need to take an high speed elevator to get to the platforms.
@thomascropper2865
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinhoward9593 Ik …it never ceases to amaze me
@jonasabella7305
3 жыл бұрын
Complain, whine, gripe...American past time of the purposeless.
@meggtokyodelicious
3 жыл бұрын
80 feet isnt bad. Tokyo have OOEDO LINE, deepest train stations around Tokyo. its not one station, all stations are deep underground. need to go down 3 floors to the platform. but in case of mega earthquakes, it supposed to function and protect people, and use as shelter. another good example id metro in Moscow, Russia.
@brianp5205
3 жыл бұрын
This is America. We die of heart failure. As in our heart dies of too much cholesterol.
@AVeryRandomPerson
3 жыл бұрын
The Washington Metro has Forest Glen station, located at 196 feet (60 meters) below the surface
@xlr0gd205
8 ай бұрын
and 150+ feet is pretty much a NORM in Moscow & St. Petersburg, especially in central districts
@losh330
3 жыл бұрын
Only 50 steps? Some people are way too lazy and will make up any excuse to cancel something even mildly disruptive or different from what they are used to.
@micmac99
3 жыл бұрын
Peachtree Center MARTA station in Atlanta is 120 feet down. It's also one of the busiest stations in town. San Jose will be just fine.
@pimpnamedslickback7780
2 жыл бұрын
86 feet isnt deep at all. There are stations in NY and London that go down 150 feet
@LevonPamukyan
7 ай бұрын
any metro station in the former soviet union average 200 ft deep
@elicooper4031
3 жыл бұрын
It's not deep. It's pretty common in Asia that subway platforms are several stories down from the ground level.
@calebreese2311
3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that in Portland, there’s a light-rail station that is approx. 250 ft underground. So 80 is nothing
@TheLIRRFrenchie...
3 жыл бұрын
You guys wanted the single bore so santa clara wouldn't be torn up. This is what you guys chose and honestly 80 feet isn't as deep as the central subway at powell street in SF. Stop complaining 🙄.
@poodlescone9700
3 жыл бұрын
You are going too deep! That is what she said.
@ricarellan
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@eop9969
3 жыл бұрын
In this case, it's more like "that's what he said" 😂
@mataega
3 жыл бұрын
The real story here is they could have bored 2 standard smaller tunnels side-by-side that would have been less deep and more convenient for everyone ...but a few small businesses complained because that would have required more digging and temporary street closures.
@deandrebuggs3494
3 жыл бұрын
They complained they didn’t want cut and cover to disrupt the street above.. so BART & VTA comes up with a single bore tunnel that has to be extremely deep… still complaining 😂 Make up y’all mines. Honestly, they should just do the cut and cover and have different crews working 24/7 to speed up the construction. Use the extra money to pay for all the businesses that will loose money during the construction.
@IGtyi39AL78F56
3 жыл бұрын
True as the same with L.A. Metro that got 1 billion to speed up the work so that they can have the Olympics. As they same for Bart so that it doesn't go into 2034 for the opening date of service. Just like what happened to the Berryessa and North San Jose line that should have open 2017 but no it open in 2020. Bart should get billions to speed up the work as well of extending further into South San Jose area to for that extra. But no telling how that's going to be in the future.
@zanemarte9877
3 жыл бұрын
You still have to cut and cover where the stations are located regardless. As an NHL fan, I have major concerns about Diridon station because it's right next to SAP Center and it's connected to the rest of Diridon (aka the Grand Central of the West). Honestly, I like the idea of BART going through Downtown San Jose for SJSU students to commute by BART like UC Berkley students do now, gives NHL fans (mainly from Oakland, East Bay suburban cities, and Contra Costa County) the option to travel to SAP Center by BART instead of driving the nearly gridlocked freeways.
@deandrebuggs3494
3 жыл бұрын
@@zanemarte9877 The entire route under Downtown San Jose should of remained cut & cover. Businesses and certain groups complained about the construction disrupting daily lives for years. Soo VTA & BART came up with this single bore tunnel to not disturb the streets above, but it came as a cost of smaller platforms and a deeper tunnel. Now other people and groups are complaining the tunnel too deep????? If isn’t one thing, it’s another🤦🏾♂️
@zanemarte9877
3 жыл бұрын
@@IGtyi39AL78F56 As much as I like to have BART that far south or even connect to light rail in Winchester, it's not going to happen because capacity can only go so far up, and even with the idea of BART having the ultimate goal of over 1,000 cars to a total of 100 trains with 10 cars the system won't have the capacity to handle all those people.
@IGtyi39AL78F56
3 жыл бұрын
@@zanemarte9877 San Jose Area isn't that big anyways like L.A. Area is as of L.A. Metro. They talk about having go to Gilroy and Monterey Area way later on as of they will probably go locomotive trains like EBart did of a cheaper capacity.
@IGtyi39AL78F56
3 жыл бұрын
They should make like the downtown Oakland stations for it to be much safer when earthquakes happens and malfunction happens and better evacuation plans.
@meismax
3 жыл бұрын
Downtown Oakland isn't safe because of the potential for earthquakes...it's because of other humans.
@snturner11
3 жыл бұрын
If people do research , they will know some stations in Metro DC have same elevations.
@AVeryRandomPerson
3 жыл бұрын
And ones way deeper, up to 196 feet below the surface
@michaelwakeham3404
3 жыл бұрын
In russia stations run up to 250-300 feet deep, in Washington dc theres stations that range up to 150 feet deep, in london all the deep level tube lines average 60-80 feet and some only have stairs and elevators so these ppl literally sound lazy, the chances that all elevators and escalators stop working at once is so low so wtf they sound rediculous
@aperr2476
2 жыл бұрын
In DC it’s up to 196
@alexcalzaretta3190
2 жыл бұрын
The new LIRR stations (8 tracks) under Grand Central Station NYC, are an average 140' below grade. Because there are two different platform levels, this distance varies. What's wrong with you people, have you not heard of escalators and elevators?
@jamessue8358
3 жыл бұрын
"Greater Good?!" "I am your Greater Good" - Incredibles... lol 🤣
@MaestroAbar
3 жыл бұрын
The problem with this station is that after 10+ years of claiming they'll make it, it still doesn't exist.
@zanemarte9877
3 жыл бұрын
Doubtful that would be the case. The Google development is moving forward and another thing too the stations have connections to San Jose State University which would give students another option for commute to the main campus, the rest of Diridon station, SAP Center (home of NHL's San Jose Sharks), ACE, Caltrain, and Amtrak.
@meismax
3 жыл бұрын
Construction for the new BART station will be finished between 2028-2030. China could finish this station in 2 months and 100x cheaper.
@losh330
3 жыл бұрын
That's because in china they don't pay good wages and have no environmental standards and much less safety standards for construction workers.
@TohaBgood2
2 жыл бұрын
And it would cave in a week later. No, thank you! It needs to be built right once and last centuries!
@mavericky1543
3 жыл бұрын
The escalators, elevators will be filled with human feces, needles and whatever else drug is available. Also, great place for drug addicts to sleep on those long train rides.
@DUNGSI27
3 жыл бұрын
I mean they can also install those automatic stairs as well I dont see whats the problem is to be honest!
@TheLIRRFrenchie...
3 жыл бұрын
Clearly they've never ridden the washington metro that has stations twice as deep than this lol.
@CDReimer
3 жыл бұрын
Most people are familiar with escalators at the malls. Those are slower than the escalators at BART stations.
@TheLIRRFrenchie...
3 жыл бұрын
@William Hummel lol agreed!! Those escalators spell death if you attempt to slide down that rail 😂😂!! Imagine days where the entire station has no escalators running.
@TheLIRRFrenchie...
3 жыл бұрын
@@CDReimer Agreed. They could totally make that work for a puny 86 feet.
@bear1more287
3 жыл бұрын
If you ride on Bart ,the Majority of the time the escalators are broken down for days .. Not only does it takes days and weeks to repair them in my 45 yrs of riding Bart I’ve never seen all running escalators at any station good luck 👍🏻
@brostapho4332
3 жыл бұрын
The new homeless housing looks amazing!!
@albeit1
3 жыл бұрын
Those upper steps will go quick!
@thenajb
3 жыл бұрын
80 Feet?!?!? Haha... that's light for most of the Red Line in DC Y'all want it safely built underground or nah?
@erikanders3343
3 жыл бұрын
only 85 feet, thats nothing
@TysonIke
2 жыл бұрын
First off why isn’t this a dual bore system with cut and cover stations. Like every other modern system in this country and the rest of Bart’s underground tracks.
@aperr2476
2 жыл бұрын
If they think that’s deep, wait until they go to Forest Glen station and Wheaton station here on the DC metro Red Line. Forest Glen is 196 ft deep, and it only has high speed elevators. And Wheaton is 145 and contains the longest set of escalators in the Western Hemisphere. They go straight from the surface to the mezzanine. So stop complaining about 86 ft.
@bryson217
Жыл бұрын
Rosslyn station on DC Metro is 103 ft below street level. It’s not a big deal. Commuters adapt. They’ve done it for 45 years…even if there’s an escalator/elevator outage.
@da9856
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe fix other issues in San Jose first rather than building a underground Bart station
@brostapho4332
3 жыл бұрын
But its going to turn into new homeless housing!!!
@TheLIRRFrenchie...
3 жыл бұрын
It's not VTA or Bart's job nor the FTA's job to "fix issues in San Jose". It's San Jose's JOB to fix it's own problems, NOT transit.
@da9856
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLIRRFrenchie... I never said VTA or Bart
@TheLIRRFrenchie...
3 жыл бұрын
@@da9856 well you're complaining about something off-topic on a video about VTA/Bart. So any gripes about what San Jose needs to fix can be directed to San Jose's virtual city hall meetings during public commenting and NOT on a video about VTA/Bart because as i said, IT'S NOT THEIR JOB!!!
@da9856
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLIRRFrenchie... who said I was complaining?!?!, I simply put MY opinion on this video
@kiqw
2 жыл бұрын
Those people who are turned off by the depth should see Muni's new Union Square Station or Atlanta's MARTA Peachtree Station..
@sam_cs_49er
Жыл бұрын
Maybe it can make the fare evaders to reconsider doing their stuff with a 85 feet deep underground station.
@dtcrooner1
3 жыл бұрын
Good for San Jose! They deserve the connection.
@Brillemeister
Жыл бұрын
These folks would hate Atlanta's 120-foot-deep Peachtree Center station...
@xlr0gd205
8 ай бұрын
meanwhile Russia and Ukraine are combined for over 100 stations 150 feet underground or deeper...
@tfcooks
3 жыл бұрын
It's all good until the escalators start breaking down.
@IGtyi39AL78F56
3 жыл бұрын
Job security.
@TudorOwen50s
Жыл бұрын
By the time the station opens, teleportation will be standard so 86' won't even be an issue! Enjoy your trip to the center of the earth! 🤣
@aeromtb2468
3 жыл бұрын
stop complaining people.
@JustDontPls
3 жыл бұрын
Lmfaoo the fact they put Twitter roast and said them 😭😭😂
@Caliprimitive
2 жыл бұрын
Whoever thinks this is too deep or not necessarily needed you are on drugs or just move down south. I love the idea! also a great work out 👍🏻
@bear1more287
3 жыл бұрын
Some not all stations
@claudiogallardo6383
3 жыл бұрын
Wow offended by escalators, that’s a new achievement
@mataega
3 жыл бұрын
Good point. I've been riding BART for decades and can never remember an escalator being broken ...then again people tell me I don't have a very good memory 😂
@kevinhoward9593
2 жыл бұрын
They complain about 86ft? thats nothing. to get to the subway i have to walk 5 city blocks. not to mention getting down all this "tiresome" steps. thats WAY more than 86ft for me. and i walk with a fricking cane!!!
@atms04
2 жыл бұрын
Ever been to Mexico City?
@SoundBlackRecordings
Жыл бұрын
Wilshire/Vermont Station in LA is 152 feet lol ridiculous
@MrWeirdstudios
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta do Exercise 😂
@michaelsmiley15
2 жыл бұрын
There are some things you gonna have to put up with because Bart is doing something that they've never done before with the approval of boring machines and a overunder station platform design this has never be done before in United States let alone Bart so put up with it don't complain about it there's nothing you can do it's out of people's control and whining about it it's not gonna help
@MrColdwatercanyon
3 жыл бұрын
Grandma
@faithdozer8993
Жыл бұрын
i can't wait
@shiina_mahiru_9067
3 жыл бұрын
there are "automatic lifter" that one can install at the staircase for wheelchair people (it is slower than the elevator of course), so this is not really an issue.
@mataega
3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever used BART? The escalators, elevators & 'lifters' are broken 50% of the time.
@kmore2766
2 жыл бұрын
wow... whining about that??! be GRATEFUL you're even getting a BART station! dang. smh. And, like they pointed out- we been doing that in SF for decades no prob. deal with it, "Silicon Valley."
@723lion
3 жыл бұрын
It will turn into a homeless shelter in no time.
@lucaspadilla4815
Жыл бұрын
Forest Hill Station or the new Chinatown station are better examples of deep stations and are fine
@Electronzap
3 жыл бұрын
The greater good! But, that's way too not deep enough. Should double it.
@Randoman35
Жыл бұрын
Build it in the earth's mantle.
@kennethtennysfan6101
3 жыл бұрын
Um, once you get on this train in SJ how many days will it take you to get to SF? And, given that this train stops in that sh*thole of a city called Oakland, how many people will actually make it to SF alive?
@CDReimer
3 жыл бұрын
The green line goes from North San Jose to Daly City. If you're on the orange line instead, the transfer station (blue, green and orange lines) is Bay View in San Leandro. The last time I took BART, it was 45 minutes to get from Fremont to San Francisco in January 2020. Bring ear plugs. BART trains are LOUD.
@kennethtennysfan6101
3 жыл бұрын
@@CDReimer I suggest you review a BART map. The Green line does not go “directly” to Daly City. It makes multiple stops along the way, including Oakland. Hence, my tongue-in-cheek posting.
@TheLIRRFrenchie...
3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethtennysfan6101 he obviously meant that as the last stop.
@kennethtennysfan6101
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLIRRFrenchie... Sorry, but I am correct. The green line does not go “directly “ to DC. It makes multiple stops along the way. “Directly” implies zero stops. And, have you ever taken BART from SJ to SF? It takes forever.
@yusefkhan1752
3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you just leave ca if you hate it so much. So hateful.
@JAYY_JAYY
3 жыл бұрын
Easily 10 year project
@FirstLast-jm4dx
3 жыл бұрын
It can handle the next big quake, right?
@IGtyi39AL78F56
3 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@zanemarte9877
3 жыл бұрын
They have to. There's geologic standards that contractors have to follow to withstand a big earthquake. We don't know how big the next earthquake will be nor when it will take place, but the important thing to think about when it comes to construction is the structural integrity of the stations.
@IGtyi39AL78F56
3 жыл бұрын
@@zanemarte9877 True if people don't get barricade all that concrete in which that is going to happen and fires and being crush. Safety is very important.
@lwmitcham
Жыл бұрын
Who cares what they say on social media 😅
@sushicanvai8767
3 жыл бұрын
Conflict of interest? mayor liccardo owns the properties near by?
@teviblekhman1628
2 жыл бұрын
Russia does it deeper.
@GreenRocksDay
3 жыл бұрын
People need to lose weight anyway
@thomasmulhall4873
3 жыл бұрын
If they strike oil, that would pay for the project...
@IGtyi39AL78F56
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah right!
@williamdurham6893
3 жыл бұрын
They need to add air trees water and creek and water authority trails and bike trails. Its not difficult if you know how to build more than walls and doorways.
@williamdurham6893
3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah leave some open architecture to the sky and sunlight not just walls and closed structure.
@AnubianOddity
Жыл бұрын
First world problems.
@mataega
3 жыл бұрын
It will be a great bomb shelter ..and the rest of the time it will be homeless shelter 😁
@aidankelly5853
3 жыл бұрын
Critics: Downtown San Jose BART Station Is Too Deep Me: That's what she said
@albeit1
3 жыл бұрын
Suivez l'argent
@Mr.TierraCaliente
3 жыл бұрын
Dang they are about to steal more land from more small business owners..
@anonymousmc7727
3 жыл бұрын
No save the flea market........
@TheCloakedTiger
3 жыл бұрын
Let’s hope to gosh it’s able to shake rattle and roll when the big one comes... 2028?!? 2030?!? What will the world even be like then?! Will a world even still exist? Will we even still exist??? Yikes!
@williamdurham6893
3 жыл бұрын
I guess you can thank trump for those bonds budgets that stretched twenty years so our country can build and grow without debt and loans and infighting and organized crime.
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