I'm sure love would be as real without the possibility to hate. It's not like hatred and rejection are necessary conditions to experience love... Goodness is good in and of itself. We just wouldn't know otherwise. We wouldn't think about not loving God. I just fail to see the relevance of this point. Yet it seems to be at the center of the free will defense. "We have free will so we can 'truly' love God". Doesn't God love us? Can he hate us? Well, no, for he is all-loving...
@jonnyw82
2 жыл бұрын
God wanted us to have free will bc he doesn’t want robots to love him which is why he’ll torment you for eternity if you choose not to love him. No coercion there, right? Dogs don’t have free will but do they love like robots? No. If you are kind to them, they love you. If you are cruel to them, they fear you. Every well adjusted sane human would love God if it can be shown God is good and loving. Doesn’t God already know who will love him and who won’t? Why can’t we skip the whole suffer on earth thing and skip to the heaven part? So, the free will argument makes no sense.
@robertwilczek6290
6 ай бұрын
It's not about who will choose to love Him in an emotional sense. It's about who will recognize that they are sinners and call upon The Lord to have grace and mercy so that they will not be justly punished as sinners, but rather have eternal life with the God they have chosen to believe, and love will surely develop as they spend time with their Creator and Savior.
@Jere616
11 жыл бұрын
"Colossus, The Forbin Project" (1968 I think), was the first Sci-Fi movie I remember that had a computer become self-aware and then seek to enslave humanity in order to run it more efficiently. The penalty for rebellion being death.
@carmeister_
11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these!
@MsJohnnythunder
6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't he create creatures with only good options to choose from? God can't choose evil, and that's perfectly fine, isn't it? Of course, there wouldn't be things like courage, for there would be no danger; self-sacrifice, for everyone's needs would always be fulfilled, and etc. In a perfect world, you lose some virtues. But that's ok, because there is no evil nor pain. I would want to always choose right and to always only believe what is true... I don't need to be a robot or a clock for that... I'm hoping to get more insight from the next video.
@englandshope689
2 жыл бұрын
true...do we really have true Free Will ?..free of all external forces ?....I dont think so
@johnsannicolas2015
2 жыл бұрын
@@englandshope689 I'd advocate for some form of compatibilism. But even if there are limitations to our choices, it doesn't mean we are not accountable for the paths we take in life.
@jonnyw82
2 жыл бұрын
If free will is so important then why don't we have it? Even according to his ideology, we are infected with original sin which means we are hopelessly bent towards evil. It's unfair because God is tipping the scales. Many of us want to live a blameless and righteous life, but we can't. Our selfish inclinations are too strong. But if I had perfect free will I'd always choose to be kind to my wife, exercise daily and never eat junk food. Instead my body craves all the things that are bad for me or immoral. That's not free will.
@englandshope689
2 жыл бұрын
agreed....do we really have true Free Will ?..free of all external forces ?....I dont think so
@johnsannicolas2015
2 жыл бұрын
It may not be classical libertarian free will. But though our will is limited, we have a free will worth wanting as Dennett would say 😏
@veronicajoseph3329
4 жыл бұрын
Wise men learn more from fools than fools from wise men
@veronicajoseph3329
4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant old saying. Thanks Dr.Clay
@daryljohanson9748
4 жыл бұрын
Bro, you say very little of importance for all the words that come out of your mouth. Seriously.
@englandshope689
2 жыл бұрын
agreed....do we really have true Free Will ?..free of all external forces ?....I dont think so
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