Hey folks! Please see below for the full list of upgrade suggestion made in the video, check out the link in the description for the full decklist, and let me know in the comments if you agree with my changes, disagree, and/or what changes you think I missed! ---------------------------- Sac Lands ---------------------------- Satyr Wayfinder >>> Elvish Reclaimer Winding Way >>> Crop Rotation Crawling Sensation >>> Knight of the Reliquary Heaven // Earth >>> Zuran Orb Explore >>> Nahiri's Lithoforming Thrilling Discovery >>> Sprouting Goblin ---------------------------- Untap Lands ---------------------------- Angel of Indemnity >>> Tiller Engine Sun Titan >>> Spelunking ---------------------------- Extra Land Drops ---------------------------- Eccentric Farmer >>> Azusa, Lost but Seeking Elvish Rejuvenator >>> Wayward Swordtooth Genesis Hydra >>> Case of the Locked Hothouse Nantuko Cultivator >>> Mina and Denn, Wildborn ---------------------------- Recur/Reanimate Lands ---------------------------- Marshal’s Anthem >>> Conduit of Worlds Turntimber Sower >>> Aftermath Analyst The Mending of Dominaria >>> Splendid Reclamation Perpetual Timepiece >>> Undergrowth Recon Decimate >>> Worldsoul's Rage ---------------------------- Landfall ---------------------------- Scaretiller >>> Felidar Retreat Nesting Dragon >>> Rampaging Baloths Skullwinder >>> Tireless Tracker Descend Upon the Sinful >>> Lotus Cobra Electric Revelation >>> Tireless Provisioner ---------------------------- Core - Draw ---------------------------- Sevinne’s Reclaimation >>> Garruk's Uprising Core - ST Removal Unholy Heat >>> Path to Exile Angel of the Ruins >>> Generous Gift ---------------------------- Additional Upgrades ---------------------------- Magmatic Insight >>> Life from the Loam Escape to the Wilds >>> Realms Uncharted Chromatic Lantern >>> Dryad of the Ilysian Grove Valorous Stance >>> Exploration Vengeful Regrowth >>> Scapeshift Wreck and Rebuild >>> Crucible of Worlds Evolving Wilds >>> Arid Mesa Terramorphic Expanse >>> Windswept Heath Krosan Verge >>> Wooded Foothills
@Gvaz
Ай бұрын
what about desert warfare in this?
@mikeyp266
5 ай бұрын
The surveil lands are great here too....they are fetchable and trigger your commander if they hit a desert
@SpikyAsian
5 ай бұрын
An additional $ upgrade that could be added is waves of aggression. No one usually expects the extra combats, especially not in a landfall deck that is also reusable. I don't even have to look at the poll to know Felix will overwhelmingly win. Sadly, the most straightforward/easiest deck to build.
@mattvm02
4 ай бұрын
waves of aggression is so good, a bit pricey though
@TheCCPlayer
5 ай бұрын
This was the deck I bought from the bunch because I was looking for a Desert and/or landfall deck, and the upgrades go with exactly that, so defo seeing if I’m going this way.
@XxAgent008xX
5 ай бұрын
11:40 Path to Exile is already in the precon, but other cheap and effective removal you can slide into the deck instead are Swords to Plowshares or Beast Within!
@casually_lurking
5 ай бұрын
Condemn also exists; Condemn is just Swords to Plowshares for toughness. If you run one, run the other; the flexibility let's you control how much you give your opponent (occasionally).
@chrisw.735
5 ай бұрын
@@casually_lurking the crateure being attacking limits your choices massively, especially with engine pieces that don't want to attack anyways (outside goad decks)
@casually_lurking
5 ай бұрын
@@chrisw.735 fair enough. . .
@ash3n159
2 ай бұрын
@@casually_lurkingman, I am so sorry to tell you that there is a drastic power difference between Swords and Condem. Condem requires an attacking creature and doesn’t fully remove it.
@casually_lurking
2 ай бұрын
@ash3n159 I take it you play in a stronger meta than, because in my experience the bottom of the deck is a solid place to bury something. Or is it that your pod doesn't run aggro or damage because real commander players don't waste time attacking when they should be combo'ing? Those are the main counters I get leveleled against the card at least: "dude, waste of a card because my tier 1 million build has infini'tutors" and "attacking is for tier zeros; play a real build and just combo for game".
@Baldurs9891
5 ай бұрын
Can you do the grand larceny deck please? Thanks
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
Grand Larceny is dropping after Quick Draw, so it shouldn't be too much longer.
@Baldurs9891
5 ай бұрын
It's only because you're the only person I trust with upgrades! Many thanks as always!
@casually_lurking
5 ай бұрын
This is the one precon I'm getting this set; it's cool, it's (decently) themed, and the parts will give me a good base for a pair of builds. Cool video as always, thanks for the solid baseline.
@johnnyborbon5085
5 ай бұрын
Someone cooked here. Amazing video! I'll be adding a Sandwurm convergence to my build just for that sweet Dune flavor hehe
@DonkGaming-Ryoko
4 ай бұрын
path of exile is in the precon suggest swords to plow instead
@garchi721
5 ай бұрын
Yay! I’ve been waiting for your videos to drop! 🎉
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your patience and I hope it was worth the wait!
@Njzeo
5 ай бұрын
*buys deck* “I wonder if Grazzet has done a video on this one..” *Checks KZitem *
@NickGalvin
4 ай бұрын
Great video! I know you don't usually touch on lands in your videos, but I'm curious if you think it is worth picking up any deserts and subbing them into this deck?
@Gvaz
Ай бұрын
since we've had a few sets since this came out, would you make any further changes with MH3 and BLB?
@yvettegarcia4866
2 ай бұрын
love your videos, just started playing mtg last month, and yuma was the first precon i bought! i’m learning a lot and excited to try these upgrades! if you’re still doing decklists for alt commanders from thunder junction, would you consider doing one for kirri talented sprout? not sure how popular she is, but i’d love some suggestions on where to start!
@MacsElTerrible
3 ай бұрын
Hey, this video is amazing! Would you mind telling me what you think are the most important cards for the boost?
@nickatwork
5 ай бұрын
Gotta give me vote to Felix and his five boots. A combat matters sultai deck seems interesting
@Josh-Fischer9804
5 ай бұрын
I agree with you but I find Felix far and way too easy to work with as the number of cards with saboteur abilities is ridiculously staggeringly high and yes I did buy the grand larceny deck as Gonti is the challenge not Felix. Just the ninjas alone which are a relative Sultai tribe almost all have Saboteur effects and then there are two cards that are Sultai colors that have saboteur effects themselves one of them can even be used as an alternative commander: the two cards are Vorosh the hunter which I describe as the "green" planar chaos dragon as it is a 6/6 flying for 3BGU that also reads as follows whenever Vorosh the hunter deals combat damage to player you may pay 2G if you do out six +1/+1 counters effectively turning it into a 12/12 flying beat stick after just one connecting attack and if you have Felix out and can afford the 4GG you can get an 18/18 after just one attack. The other saboteur creature is a 23 year old card this year by the name of fungal shambler which is a 6/4 trampler for 4BGU that reads as follows whenever Fungal shambler deals combat damage to a player you draw a card and that player discards card and at being a 6/4 with trample the odds are you will get at least one trigger out of this and Felix makes it two cards drawn and discarded. This is what I mean by Felix is far and way too easy to work with. My vote is for Vihaan gold waker as he seems like a very high risk high reward commander as treasure cards in Mardu I don't think are that numerous and are we willing to throw our limited mana resources away for a chance at victory as Mardu also isn't all that great at ramp either outside of the treasure tokens and being 3/3 bodies isn't that big as many board sweeps can do 3+ damage to all creatures. I'm just curious as to the challenge bestowed of keeping the treasure tokens alive and the mana flowing that's why I'm voting for Vihaan gold waker but if you love Felix Five boots god bless you and don't let me discourage you as he is an awesome commander to use
@nickatwork
5 ай бұрын
@@Josh-Fischer9804 ok
@nickatwork
5 ай бұрын
@@Josh-Fischer9804 this ai generated reply needs to chill
@Josh-Fischer9804
5 ай бұрын
@@nickatwork there's nothing ai about it this was all me and what do you mean by chill I just appreciate a challenge and I see this in Vihaan and not Felix
@nickatwork
5 ай бұрын
@@Josh-Fischer9804 You wrote a manifesto dude. If that's not AI then you seriously need to chill out because nobody asked.
@iambutter2784
4 ай бұрын
Honestly i really wish Yuma was either Temur or Jund... but then he would be way too disgusting
@ScrySociety
4 ай бұрын
You serious make the best precon upgrade guides around! I really appreciate how you talk about which cards you're cutting for which replacements, and offer explanations.
@Galchoo1
5 ай бұрын
Yeehaw! Guess cowboy season is starting! Amazing vid as always! As for the vote, Imma go with Vihaan. Panharmonicon effects, spellslingin and tribal synergies are nice and all, but using your mana rocks not for mana but as rocks to hit face with?! Sign me the F up! Day 957 of waiting for the face reveal. So... thoughts on Thunder Junction so far?
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
Happy to hear you enjoyed it, thanks for voting, and thanks for the support as usual! Honestly, Outlaws of Thunder Junction, in my opinion at least, seems to have a lot of good stuff for commander players. Personally I found Murders at Karlov Manor a bit lacking in commanders but this set more than makes up for it with a solid selection of interesting build arounds that, hopefully, I'll be able to sink my teeth into with new builds..
@xr9790
5 ай бұрын
I love seeing your upgrade vids, I was really looking forward to these!
@monolithichashies7477
5 ай бұрын
Same!!
@thbmeseeks7785
5 ай бұрын
Please do quick draw! 🙏🙏
@leopardeye1654
Ай бұрын
Strange you didn't mention desert warfare... That thing hits hard.
@nathones
Ай бұрын
didn't exist when this video came out. Same for Lazotep Quarry
@kozad86
3 ай бұрын
I just bought this on sale to use as a starter base for The Necrobloom. I have a habit of grabbing cheap (and sometimes not so cheap) pre-cons for parts, so I'm sure I can make something interesting with it.
@that_camaro_guy_zl1
4 ай бұрын
That $75 is way too conservative, man. I bought these upgrade cards plus like 4 of the additional ones and I'm in like $180. I even got the deck on sale.
@ScrySociety
4 ай бұрын
I was thinking of adding some more deserts to the deck, but am worried about throwing off my mana base too much. Curious if you have any insights about specific deserts worth adding!
@howtyplcal350
5 ай бұрын
Definitely have to put my vote to Roxanne, Starfall Savant. Gruul mana rocks sounds so fun!
@JakeBlaha-kd7mk
5 ай бұрын
love this series, u da best
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words!
@ehecatzin
5 ай бұрын
thanks for the guide!. I upgraded mine and we have similar changes, I usually don't play green, so this is going to be an interesting process of upgrading it gradually, since I don't have so many of the cards.
@Eisenwulf666
5 ай бұрын
This seems like the more interesting precon of the set to me. It has a very flavorful theme and fun mechanics. Olivia seems fun too
@jacobguy3343
5 ай бұрын
Love your upgrades I'm still trying to figure out if I want this or the ghonti precon
@supersalty_9459
5 ай бұрын
i love this deck! but i cant wait for the izzet upgrades!
@raulcontreras8297
5 ай бұрын
I'll be waiting for the Most Wanted one :)
@mrgarneau4895
5 ай бұрын
I would recommend Annie Joins Up as a possible include. It deals 5 damage and doubles up legendary creature triggers, making you able to sac 2 lands draw 2 cards and if you sac 2 deserts you make 4 plant warriors.
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
Good suggestion! Annie Joins Up does indeed get us double the usage out of Yuma every time he swings, which may be enough to warrant its inclusion. I may have to test it out!
@pablocastillo5396
5 ай бұрын
These precons were a flop. Just way too much product in such a short period. Let's hope for some more inspired buildarounds in the future. I know this channel will make the most out of the scraps tho, cheers!
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
I really can't blame folks for having product fatigue (these 4 precons for every set have certainly taken their toll on me trying to the upgrades out for them ASAP), but personally I have been enjoying these precons and feel like, if anything, WotC has been getting much better at building solid ones these past few years.
@xr9790
5 ай бұрын
So are these gonna be in release order like Ixalan? So next would be Quick Draw, then Grand Larceny, and Most Wanted last?
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@Master20Bucks
5 ай бұрын
What do you feel about this card vs Hazezon as the commander? I have been tuning Hazezon for a bit but I'm not sure if I want to run him as the commander for not
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
Honestly, they both play well into the desert gameplan so its really a matter of preference. Hazezon, Shaper of Sand doesn't require us to constantly destroy our deserts to create tokens, so we can go in a more "traditional" build direction with him (though we'll still want to include some ways to get deserts into our bin to get use of his desert recursion), while with Yuma we certainly need to lean heavily into razing our land base for value. That said, both of them will have a lot of the same cards in their builds so, if I had to pick one, I would say Yuma may be slightly better due to him being able to enable himself with his ETB/on attack land destruction and generates us value in the form of card advantage, both things Hazezon can't do on his own. Hope that helps!
@4oWhat
3 ай бұрын
I've had the upgrades for this deck over a month now. Finally getting it today and getting a game in too!
@4oWhat
3 ай бұрын
Tried it out, love the deck! Brings back Lord Windgrace memories, my very first commander.
@aydenharper4800
5 ай бұрын
Would wrenn and svenn be a good addition?
@VinceOfAllTrades
5 ай бұрын
Any reason why you didn't include Blossoming Tortoise? Seems great for this.
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
That would be due to budget constraints - I couldn't quite figure out what to cut for it while staying within the builds $35 budget. That said, it is still a fantastic addition if you want to go over budget, since it des do a lot for the deck with its repeatable land milling and reanimation (though it does run the risk of hitting things we can't recur, so do keep that in mind).
@antoniokarloci6422
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great upgrade. Cant wait for Quick draw next. And thank you again for your videos.
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
My pleasure, thanks for the support, and Quick Draw just dropped today!
@devanpurser
5 ай бұрын
Surprised From the Ashes didn’t end up in here, card seems insane since the commander is per desert destroyed and you get a bunch of lands to replace them
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
Its most certainly not a bad inclusion - being able to pop all our deserts to get a huge amount of Yuma triggers and then replace all this lands for even more landfall triggers off other landfall matters payoffs seems solid - but I personally feel like the build already has enough ways to blow up our own land base for value that doesn't potentially help our opponents with any Landfall Triggers they have. Still, I really wouldn't be able to fault anyone for including this in their list because, when it works, it can most certainly create gigantic boardstates for us.
@Norbert_Foster
5 ай бұрын
You added a second path to exile?
@taylorjohnson5148
5 ай бұрын
I got riftstone portal to put in here. it’s a land we want in the graveyard and can potentially help color fix
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
Huh... I honestly did know this card existed but yeah, considering how many ways the build has to get lands into bin reliably, I can see the argument for having this as an extra source of fixing. Good suggestion!
@barrysetser3909
5 ай бұрын
Felix Five Boots! Just got this one, so anxious to hear your spin
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
It looks like Felix is leading the pack by a solid margin in the polls as of right now, so you are likely going to see that build coming soon!
@taylorjohnson5148
5 ай бұрын
I’m adding moraug to this deck
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Moraug, Fury of Akoum certainly works here - with all the builds lands constantly entering, leaving, and re-entering the battlefield, we can certainly get a large amount of extra combat phases and AOE power increases our of him for sure. Good suggestion!
@theluckyone6807
5 ай бұрын
Y not be mean and add cards that destroy everyone’s lands at the same time 😉
@GrazzetMTG
5 ай бұрын
Mostly because you want to be invited back to commander night. But seriously, I'm not a fan of mass land destruction which is why I didn't include any here (outside of ways to destroy our own lands), because I don't like locking folks out of being to play the game (which is also why I don't like stax).
@theluckyone6807
5 ай бұрын
@@GrazzetMTG I am new to the game and being taught by a evil person who is bullying me with evil decks so I have to return the favor somehow 😂
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