Thank you Keith for showing us the horizontal milling machine method for cutting keyways. When keyways are done this way they tend to be cleaner and most accurate.
@kenzpenz
11 жыл бұрын
Fascinating indeed. This is really worthwhile watching. I'm 75 and enjoy watching a real master at work. look forward to watching more videos. Thanks for presenting this great video. Ken Bartlett, retired Army...Marina CA
@imbuilder
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this, Keith, and thanks for taking the time to introduce us to your K&T horizontal mill - a beautiful machine!
@claytonecramer
8 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. I own a small CNC vertical mill and I wasn't clear on how horizontal mills work. I'm writing a history of how gun manufacturing created machine tools and transformed manufacturing processes, and this helped a lot.
@Mentorcase
10 жыл бұрын
I like the way you centred the cutter on the shaft, so simple and so accurate.
@redmorphius
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Watching this episode just for that was worth it
@theprofessorfate6184
11 жыл бұрын
Great video. Probably the only one on youtube on how to setup and use one of these machines.
@RenewTheRWandBlue
10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make this video! I'm looking at buying a horizontal mill that's close to me, and your video helped me understand some of the things I was unsure of about horizontals. Thanks!
@kentuckytrapper780
Жыл бұрын
Great video Keith, oldie but a goodie, keep'um coming...
@billroue1
10 жыл бұрын
I'm not a machinist but found this really interesting, great stuff also your presentation is first class,vey clear and concise…..
@ChrisFiggatt
10 жыл бұрын
Another great video Keith! I love seeing setups and operations on horizontals.
@warrenwise8127
11 жыл бұрын
Good to see someone doing videos on the horizontal mill, great stuff, thanks, Waz.
@codprawn
4 жыл бұрын
I love seeing an horizontal mill in action. I have an Elliott Sturdimill - universal mill. Lovely and very solid. I haven't used it yet - only had it for 20 years! I am hoping to get it up and running soon. It is a lot heavier than my Bridgeport.
@GK1918
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith for all your professional vidio makings. Even at my age, I never had my hands on a horizontal. We still cut keys on shapers especially marine shafts. Oh we do it on a vertical mill sometimes, but a pain for setup. Seems the K&T rules with horizontal mills. We are an old school shop, the newest is a 1956 Cincinnati vertical with all the options. In time I shall make a vidio of gear implants all done on a shaper.... again very well presented vidios Keith. sam
@1889michaelcraig
7 жыл бұрын
i just bought a Garvin #9 today. built in 1908. the machine works as good now as it did new. and at a Great price!
@stevebillmire90
7 жыл бұрын
Wow Keith, This video sure brings back memories for me!!! I used to run these old K&T horizontal mills back in the 80's when I worked for Lockheed in California. Looks like you even have the universal head to go with it. Most of the K&T mills we ran back then were either horizontal, vertical or the universal type. I'll tell you one thing for sure those old horizontal and vertical mills could really take a big cut out of a piece of metal!!!
@ELECTRICMOTOCROSSMACHINE
Жыл бұрын
Amazing work!, loved it. Quite a cool machine.
@KnolltopFarms
10 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a versatile machine! I just love the controls on it and can only imagine how many jobs you can do with...how cool. Thanks again, Aloha...Chuckie.
@jakeparker1220
11 жыл бұрын
I also have a K&T that Im trying to get a shop built around. I have watched some other videos about it, but would love to see some more! Great video formats.
@bcbloc02
10 жыл бұрын
I love my #4 Cincinnati wide knee horizontal. It is a beast, and with the vertical head mounted on it is extremely versatile. I do a lot of large parts that would flip a Bridgeport style mill into the floor if you put it on the table. LOL I like K&T's but my dad worked for Cincinnati for awhile so I am partial to them. Way to rock it old school!
@BigMjolnir
10 жыл бұрын
Keith, thanks for showing that. A couple of other videos I've found showed horizontal mills, but none showed how to set up and use one. Very interesting! I suspect they are capable of more, and hope you have time and occasion to show other uses and methods someday. -- Mike
@hdoug5
10 жыл бұрын
tytytyty I have been wondering how you set up a horizontal mill and now I see how its done :) awesome video :)
@grobsaw
11 жыл бұрын
Great no nonsense video! And nice mill too.
@OwnerusInnovations
9 жыл бұрын
Good video Keith. I have four horizontal mills, one of them just like yours. I also have the vertical head but no drive gear. It's in a pretty much dedicated application for a product I make so don't know if I'll get around to seriously looking for one. Also got a shaper head for it that I need to clean up and try eventually. One suggestion: I'd reverse the direction of spindle rotation on that machine. That way if you put endmills or drills in it they're turning the right way (and obviously you'd flip over the wheel cutter you're using). I gather that machine is in a museum shop not your personal machine so it's possible that whoever wired it has the motor running the wrong direction (easy to reverse on a 3 ph motor). That machine should have an arrow showing proper rotation on the input pulley behind the right hand machine cover. I'd check that to be sure the internal oil pumps etc. are working the right direction. If that's ok, there's a handle on the left side that reverses spindle rotation. Being able to use drills and endmills in the machine really adds to the versatility. Keep up the good work. More people need to know about these machines. Maybe it will help save them from the scrapper.
@FrancisoDoncona
4 жыл бұрын
Saw this old video of yours, love the clean the taper with a filthy rag, lol.
@georgespangler1517
2 жыл бұрын
I love my Sheldon horizontal mill small machines don't take up much space but serves my needs and clearly was hardly used,, 300 dollars with 20 cutters and end Mill holder as well as 2 arbor's 1 inch and 11/4,, pretty much changed my mind about getting a vertical,,
@tech270154
10 жыл бұрын
thanks KEITH very nice set up video
@rememberwhenmuseum
10 жыл бұрын
Hi great video, I also have a museum and gain a lot from videos from this type of video
@tskarzin
10 жыл бұрын
Nice video, reminds me of an old Milwaukee I worked on as an apprentice ages ago
@da8ish1
8 жыл бұрын
Nice--Mrpete brought me here. Thank you both
@VintageMachinery
8 жыл бұрын
+da8ish1 I really like Mr. Pete - super nice guy!
@dapperdan9478
11 жыл бұрын
really good video, very instructive and well though out. nice mill too.........
@foreverxundefined
9 жыл бұрын
That cutters a beast
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
10 жыл бұрын
Good watch'en .. Thanks !! That is a great old mill ..
@stucapco9111
9 жыл бұрын
Very cool! I had a few of these machines, along with shapers and thurstons. Old school, yet I learned in this area. Good to see craftsman still at it. Once CNC took hold, the game changed however, I see the contribution. thanks guy's! Yes, I'm that old. Stop laughing! It's not funny! ;)
@Guds777
10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very very much fine sir, i really did enjoy this video very much, Amazing machinery, powerful brute force, jet so precise end result...
@migueldelacruz4583
10 жыл бұрын
thank keith for the education appreciated it.
@toolfreak132
10 жыл бұрын
i have a K&T which i am restoring.Mine has a swivel table.Wish i could find a vertical head for a reasonable price.Thanks for the video.
@georgespangler1517
2 жыл бұрын
Nice learned alot
@kossmanneault683
7 жыл бұрын
tighten the arbor nut only after the arbor support is installed. Tightening the arbor nut without the support may result in a bent arbor.
@jonka1
7 жыл бұрын
Another example of why viewers should be careful in following Keith's 'teachings' He's not as good as he would have you all believe.
@dizzy4303
7 жыл бұрын
This would be due to uneven pressure from the nut against the spacers? It seems pretty stout. Im sure its a concern, and everything should be done correctly, but how big a risk is this
@jonka1
7 жыл бұрын
Tyler, nothing to do with uneven pressure. It comes under the heading of 'Good Practice'. Keith rarely follows this and prefers to pretend that he is an example to you all. I suspect that he has some viewers believing this judging by the plaudits below.
@dizzy4303
7 жыл бұрын
Best Practices are SOP at all levels of manufacturing, so that makes sense. I didnt catch that the first time I watched it, so I can see how it would poorly affect those who dont have a keen eye for these things.
@jonka1
7 жыл бұрын
Tim brown. Well that rattled your cage didn't it. Have you read Tyler's reply to me? He has read it within the context of our short discussion and applied his mind to the relevent concepts so as to come to his own considered opinion and I respect his quiet dignity. You on the other hand have done none of this. I have no problem with your opinion of my comments however your tone leaves me wondering quite what your point is. Your previous comment to me mentioned God and now you sound like someone who is inclined towards blind faith in Keith's work and his character. Please explain the relevance of the age of this video, its contents perfectly reveal themselves to those with open minds and we could all be sharing useful thoughts and opinions about them. So far I see nothing of merit here in what you bring to this forum. Try looking on KZitem for anger management, I'm sure there must be something out there for you.
@VintageMachinery
10 жыл бұрын
You are asking a pretty complicated question that has a complicated answer. Bottom line is that yes, there are times and situations where climb milling might be a better choice. However, beware that a lot depends on your milling machine. Some mills are designed for doing climb milling, but most are not. If you have any backlash in your table, climb milling can have devastating results when the cutter pulls the backlash out of the table on the start of a cut.
@agassizbeekeeper
9 жыл бұрын
My 1894 Brown and Sharpe has only one support arm that is moved by hand. It is a one piece curved arm that aligns on the end of the arbor. Speed control is done by moving the flat belt back and forth across the pulleys. I wish I could find a book for it. Have you ever done a video on cutting a spline shaft?
@omarlazchuk6594
9 жыл бұрын
goog machine and good learning, thanks keith!
@VintageMachinery
9 жыл бұрын
Omar Lazchuk Thank you Omar!
@raymondsteeley6274
10 жыл бұрын
I am enjoying watching your videos, I also have a K&T Universal that I use and also trying to restore. I have a problem with the over arms being stuck from years of not being used. Any tips as to how I can free them up?
@stubby4317
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I have an old Atlas and am eager to try a keyway on it, though I don't have the kahoonas of your machine! Typically you don't climb mill with a horizontal? And I too, have had success centering a keyway as you described on a vertical machine.
@jprams4870
4 жыл бұрын
hello keith, greetings from Colombia. I have a very similar milling machine but it is Brown & Sharpe # 2 I still have not fully fixed it I still need to fix the automatic raising and lowering the table
@kunjikorans
6 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial video
@prashanthpathipaka2841
10 жыл бұрын
thank you and good to watch it
@muhammadumairyousaf4905
8 жыл бұрын
nice demonstration...
@VintageMachinery
8 жыл бұрын
+Umair Yousaf Thank you!
@WillyBemis
7 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot!
@chuckthebull
8 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching this but Funny thing was i kept trying to move my head to align up my sight on the key-way cause your camera angle was a bit off center...lol
@davidmasters9793
10 жыл бұрын
Keith love your video's,PLEASE STOP USING YOUR HAND AS A HAMMER!! it hurts just watching lol keep them coming. Dave
@terrycannon570
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith. I really do like this mill. About what size foot print does it occupy and about how much Does it weigh?
@ericmorrissey4137
10 жыл бұрын
You could probably use a lathe to do that and the tailstock could just hold the spindle
@Presscrete
8 жыл бұрын
What type of operation would use only one overarm support? Great videos, keep them coming.
@VintageMachinery
8 жыл бұрын
+Presscrete I personally cannot think of one, but I am sure that there has been the need for that somewhere along the way. If both arms only moved together, somebody would need to only use one for them for some funky setup....
@Presscrete
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply
@howardtoob
7 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video but I just came across it. It seems to me that these machines are more stout than a vertical mill??? Why should one look for a vertical as opposed to a horizontal like yours? I am no machinist but I have a few machines. I'd like to get a K&T like that one and maybe start doing some small scale jobs and fabrication work. Are there things to look out for on these machines? Thanks for the great videos!
@VintageMachinery
7 жыл бұрын
For doing production work, or really heavy duty work, you can't beat a horizontal over a vertical. But from a practical standpoint, the vertical mill has a lot of things going for it. As much as I love my horizontal, I probably use my vertical mill 10 times for every 1 time I use the horizontal. I am just happy that I can have both!
@DivyaDivya-ec5ly
4 жыл бұрын
We want one profile heavy cutter machining demo please
@richardsanborn7963
8 ай бұрын
keith help me please can you reverse cutter direction on a milwalkee #1 universal mill? thanks
@austinwagoncompany
8 жыл бұрын
I have recently bought an old Leblond Heavy Duty No. 2 horizontal mill and would like to get an old manual or some kind of literature on it. ebay has nothing. do you have any suggestions on where to find what I am looking for? I know that in a few other videos you have mentioned manuals and things that you have had to look through.
@VintageMachinery
8 жыл бұрын
You might try calling LeBlond. They have lot of information on their old machines.
@austinwagoncompany
8 жыл бұрын
+Keith Rucker - VintageMachinery.org I'm embarrassed, I had not even thought of that. I'm used to things that I own being so old that that isn't an option. thank you sir.
@CompEdgeX2013
10 жыл бұрын
Great video. I enjoy watching the older mills working. Theres another guy on YT with a K&T model 2. Check out Keith Fenner.
@Jigneshshah
7 жыл бұрын
keep it up
@arfatshorts8368
6 жыл бұрын
tanks for you
@barrycass2820
6 жыл бұрын
I would athere have one of them two machine and one.i would like to get a small bench top one. Just don’t have the room for a big one.
@jonka1
7 жыл бұрын
@15:42 sounds like a very convincing grind on the gearbox teeth.
@cacer6
10 жыл бұрын
BUEN VIDEO SALUDOS DESDE LIMA PERU
@synocate5602
9 жыл бұрын
If the roller is sitting in the table's T slot, couldn't you just find the center of that and run it?
@VintageMachinery
9 жыл бұрын
+synocate Yes, you could, but you would still have to find the center of the T-Slot. That takes about as much effort as the way I did it.
@mikesnyder4078
8 жыл бұрын
Eye balling the center? That's the sloppiest thing I've ever seen!
@VintageMachinery
8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Snyder Yet every key way I have ever cut that way fits perfectly. Not too sloppy.....
@mikesnyder4078
8 жыл бұрын
You've been lucky.
@EverettWilson
8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Snyder Some people make their own luck... ..By figuring out methods that work just fine.
@liamobrien6326
5 жыл бұрын
Mike Snyder .. where's your videos showing all the methods of good practice .. Keith rucker is just shedding some knowledge to people who are looking to learn .. this method obviously works well and if people want to use this method as a starting point they can adapt it to suit them .. but your obviously the genius and know all of everything .. should keep your opinion to yourself instead of trying to put others down .. jealously on your behalf of someone who is a better machinist than you !!
@VALENGO11
10 жыл бұрын
Sir, your fire extinguisher could be in a better place, more easily available. Thanks for share your skills. :-)
@danielzunigagutierrez6300
2 жыл бұрын
Just to let you know that the cutter on the clickbate looks 15 thousands off-center.
@1903A3shooter
9 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching this as a retired metal cutter, but please dont set up that way for government work, Like submarines and Aircraft Carriers.
@simarjitsinghbirdibirdi7218
8 жыл бұрын
birdi milling
@juliedeblauw6804
3 жыл бұрын
:pp1!
@josepharmstrong8005
9 жыл бұрын
Really good work but man you talk to much . masheen work is what we all want to see not a man chattering on and on and on just make some cuts on the shiny stuff.
@SMShannon55
8 жыл бұрын
Wrong, many of us want to learn the things that Keith is teaching.
@ericnoney3770
8 жыл бұрын
I actually fell asleep for most of it..."and again - blah blah blah...and again...and again...". Seems like a knowledgeable fellow, but nervous in front of a camera. Much like those that use "umm" for every other word in a presentation - makes people lose their focus on what you're saying real quick.
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