It's like you have to be millionaire to afford everything that you guys recommend.
@davidcovington901
3 жыл бұрын
$1000 or $10,000, there are many who will drop the first on a rifle and the second on a fishing boat, each with considerable future expenses. High-end camera, a nice cruise, second home, second car, motorcycle, kitchen remodel, I see disposable income choices pretty often. If it's a DINK fam, that helps a lot.
@gentlemansgazette
3 жыл бұрын
Fortunately not! :) While the bespoke pair of shoes would have cost its original buyer around $10,000 to be made, we bought them secondhand for a small fraction of that price. Indeed, buying vintage is a great way to find high-quality items at affordable prices, if you know what to look for. Check out the link for more information. Thanks for watching! - Preston www.gentlemansgazette.com/get-80-percent-off/?
@AS-ri1mb
3 жыл бұрын
Well it ain’t called the Peasant Gazette
@jeremysnead9233
3 жыл бұрын
@@gentlemansgazette cobler reaction video of this
@dinonugget7114
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidcovington901 you cant use that in this argument they are shoes.
@Heitstuff
3 жыл бұрын
Raphael was making me so nervous the way he was using that knife and then when the crowbar slipped I audibly gasped lol
@metallicuda7701
3 жыл бұрын
Same reaction.
@QuestforaMeaningfulLife
11 ай бұрын
He seemed to be making the same gesture with the box cutter as with the crowbar. Glad it was the crowbar that slipped!
@senseored
3 жыл бұрын
There’s something inherently funny about watching Raphael use a crowbar to take apart a shoe.
@Reziac
3 жыл бұрын
Now I want to see him put it back together. D
@LanguagesWithAndrew
3 жыл бұрын
And, not surprisingly, he's not used to using such a tool and ends up injuring himself hahaha.
@entityaccount3876
3 жыл бұрын
@@LanguagesWithAndrew a cobbler he is not.
@jakublulek3261
2 жыл бұрын
Most professionals and craftsmen I know hurt themselves all the time. It is just part of the working with your hands.
@AverageNiceGuy
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, watching now 😎
@viasartoria
3 жыл бұрын
It appears that the RTW was John Lobb Paris (Hermès) while the bespoke was John Lobb London (Family owned). They don’t really have much to do with each other.
@DSjockey
3 жыл бұрын
Sadly kind of what I expected, excellent video, I enjoyed it and no need to count nails
@MPS186282
3 жыл бұрын
The way that shank curved perfectly over Raphael's shoulder and around his head is about enough to make me believe in guardian angels. Too bad they weren't on duty for his hand!
@adambergstresser1515
2 жыл бұрын
The hand injury was a warning shot!
@NoBrakes23
3 жыл бұрын
It's almost like Raphael saw a Rose Anvil video and said, "hold my cognac!" I dig this.
@gentlemansgazette
3 жыл бұрын
Actually, we had been talking about it when Antonio cut one open long before Rose Anvil. I just had to get all the tools first, and get started. Took a while, but now we're on a roll. Stay tuned for more...
@NoBrakes23
3 жыл бұрын
@@gentlemansgazette I hope those cobbler's tools get a little screen time. Fascinating stuff there.
@CrispyFrenFry
3 жыл бұрын
@@gentlemansgazette I am just a grateful to you and other people/ organizations like you for sharing this kind of inquisitive journey. Doing so makes us all better informed consumers so we spend our money on products worth our time and labor.
@Reziac
3 жыл бұрын
@@gentlemansgazette Might be interesting to see the inner construction of quality (and not so quality) clothing too, but _please_ don't sacrifice anything vintage to dissection! better would be to visit a maker of fine (or not so fine) clothing and see exactly what goes into it, and perhaps their explanation for each bit.
@MatthewJBD
3 жыл бұрын
Rose Anvil makes some good stuff
@N0T45ale
22 күн бұрын
John Lobb, Crockett & Jones, Churchs and Loakes. Best British Shoes, with Class.
@neiljones1938
3 жыл бұрын
Please do an analysis of Don Johnson's wardrobe/style as Detective Sonny Crockett in 1980s series Miami Vice, as there's been a recent sequel. I know this very famous series was before your time. We would love to hear your chaps's take on that. Your channel is very enjoyable, watching here in the UK 🇬🇧
@gentlemansgazette
3 жыл бұрын
noted
@Reziac
3 жыл бұрын
Oy, my eyes are bleeding just thinking about that!
@AlarmedJuggernaut8
3 жыл бұрын
I'm probably more bothered than I should be about how out of place that huge blue ring is in a dismantelling video... *edit extra word out
@williamcooke5627
3 жыл бұрын
I'd take off *any* ring before doing such handiwork.
@davidcovington901
3 жыл бұрын
Such a good eye! I think this channel's hosts might approve. In the same vein, I got weary of the 35-minute rat-a-tat me-&-my-snare-drum background track, so switched to Closed Captioning. A little inconvenient, but better than artificial tinnitus. (Now I don't know what a "gem band" is!)
@stefanox8908
3 жыл бұрын
The nails holding the heel are flat because of the way they're hammered: the shoe is put onto a metal support and when the nails come in contact with the metal, the point crimps resulting in the odd shape
@anewaccountha2213
3 жыл бұрын
I have got to say that this was a beautiful looking video, maybe it's the colourgrading but the close up is very pleasing to watch and the editing is smooth. Great video production 👍
@bittergreentea4550
3 жыл бұрын
You cut my soul a bit.
@MSTRKRFTz
2 жыл бұрын
23:39 *whispers* John lobb bespoke shoe 😂
@micheljean9971
2 жыл бұрын
A good idea would be to hire a cobler to open the shoes and explain the différences...
@zatarawood3588
9 ай бұрын
Why did the bespoke shoe not have a shank? Is that normal?
@MrAlexplantfull
3 жыл бұрын
There is a big misinformation about John-Lobb. JL Paris never ever made ready to wear shoes, that are actually made in the UK's factory in Northampton. JL bespoke shoes are made both in Paris (which is one of the most important bespoke shoes workshop in the world), and in London St Jaime's street, which is the "historical" John-Lobb's family workshop.
@antonioricardoscozze2417
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but can you put them back together now? ;)
@cyrilio
3 жыл бұрын
fascinating
@greyareaRK1
3 жыл бұрын
A little painful to watch, but very instructive. I watch a cobbler occasionally tear down expensive shoes, but it's always in the process of restoring them.
@stephenlegg262
3 жыл бұрын
Would love to have seen Raphael wearing a morning suit when making this video.
@aglees2b
3 жыл бұрын
You almost got "shanked"! Close escape
@TanyaRadic
Жыл бұрын
Wow !
@JonathanWrightZA
2 жыл бұрын
How to break all health and safety rules when using a knife...🤣
@Bigwave2003
3 жыл бұрын
"One, two, three ... quite a few nails."
@buffalotodd5068
3 жыл бұрын
This is one expensive experiment!
@1okanaganguy
3 жыл бұрын
5:29 - Living on The Edge.
@anonymousotter6455
2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy cobblers cutting shoes apart, but regular people cutting shoes apart is just too dangerous and even disrespectful.
@vladdefence1447
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry Lobb RTW but my 450 euros TLB Mallorca Artista line are better finished and shaped (more rounded). Same for Stefano Branchini, although more expensive than TLB, but still cheaper compared to Lobb (700 euros).
@annualman8737
2 жыл бұрын
S means sale, not second
@trentstoddard
2 жыл бұрын
Zooooooooom in!
@heldaneurbanus5135
2 жыл бұрын
Yikes! Nearly got shanked!!!
@relja5196
2 жыл бұрын
10.000 $ Shoe but a 2$ knife
@danbee415
3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on burning $10,000 in a fire to see what it's made out of?
@gentlemansgazette
3 жыл бұрын
Will it blend?
@askmeanything1365
3 жыл бұрын
@@gentlemansgazette *Yellow doesn't blend, that's the color of chicken.* *Only a fool spends $10,000 dollars on shoes. Do you have a soul ?*
@davidcovington901
3 жыл бұрын
@@askmeanything1365 Well fire the shoemakers and their sales crew. Fire everyone who works in an industry that makes a product that you personally disapprove of. That's good for the economy, I bet. To have more people impoverished, the poor get poorer. Furthermore, those with more money to spend, will have nothing to spend it on. So, their bank accounts grow, so the rich get richer. No, wait ....
@MatthewHilbertsBaritone
3 жыл бұрын
@@askmeanything1365 If hyper inflation happens again you just might get that chance.
@aidanalariccross
3 жыл бұрын
Medical timeout... 🤣
@secondme209
2 жыл бұрын
why ruining those pairs ? not worth it
@David-my3uu
3 жыл бұрын
I'd hate to see what this dude does to a Thanksgiving turkey.
@TheNunakun
3 жыл бұрын
John Lobb is certainly top 10 shoemakers in the world, but much of the price tag goes toward the brand name.
@hnc9
3 жыл бұрын
Based on what I saw, I think you need to wear some eye protection and gloves next time you try this lol!
@jonasis22
3 жыл бұрын
wow
@blackwood3243
2 жыл бұрын
You guys need to get some proper cobbler tools, or somebody is going to get wrecked
@Dusiek666
Жыл бұрын
So much plastic in the rtw ones
@lanceoverton5919
5 ай бұрын
No way is any pair of shoes worth 10,000, just shows how rich people are so gullible and easily ripped off, absolutely pathetic
@PhyrIsSoCold
3 жыл бұрын
This is honesty..... very anxiety-inducing!!! Please, please!!!!!! Wear protective equipment when doing something like this! Gloves, eye shields, ... ahh! Interesting but ahhhh!
@mousseman8239
3 жыл бұрын
You need to do a coop with Rose Anvil when cutting apart shoes.
@davey2363
2 жыл бұрын
Pitch and horse hair in the bespoke shoe…..
@Алмаз-ц1ю
10 ай бұрын
Губка Боб😅
@SimonTBam
3 жыл бұрын
For a thousand dollar shoe the 1st shoe was garbage.
@askmeanything1365
3 жыл бұрын
*A Gentleman, or a man, should never wear the color yellow.*
@becksy539
3 жыл бұрын
Starving kids everyway and people paying 10 grand for a bit of leather to put on their feet
@Egilhelmson
3 жыл бұрын
Those kids would either still be starving if no one would pay 10 grand for shoes, or if they were related economically to someone being paid that much, they would be paid part of that, too. The shoemaker buys food and clothes, the farmer buys a tractor or combine, etc.
@ГурамБазадзе
3 жыл бұрын
Alden> John Lobb
@unknown81360
3 жыл бұрын
Hahhahahha
@johnnypiss
3 жыл бұрын
“Hello honey, what did you do today?” “Oh not much. I just destroyed my $10,000 shoes for KZitem views!” “…I’m taking the kids to my mothers, and I want you out of this house by the end of the week” All kidding aside, pretty interesting video. You should be wearing SAFETY GLASSES! But it is interesting to see what shoes are made of, especially absurdly priced shoes!
@kanker5256
2 жыл бұрын
NOT worth it.
@cchgn
3 жыл бұрын
22:30, they used to put horse or pig hair in the glue to strengthen it. Today they put fiberglass and call it Tiger Hair, used mostly in marine (boats, watercraft) application
@Terrigan_Reina
3 жыл бұрын
Have to put Raphael through the work safety training again :p
@Reziac
3 жыл бұрын
He's training for a new career in demolition.:D
@MrSmithers
3 жыл бұрын
At first I though "ooh this looks like a fun gentlemens gazette video." But when Raphael actually started pulling these beautiful shoes apart.. well I need therapy now.
@watcherwlc53
3 жыл бұрын
it does seem a shame to destroy beautiful things and waste something that could be used.
@MrSmithers
3 жыл бұрын
@@watcherwlc53 to be fare though, I'm sure Gentleman's Gazette made enough of off this video, or will over time to recoup the losses from taking apart these shoes.
@TheSwedishRider
3 жыл бұрын
@@watcherwlc53 he didn't cut through the leather though, just disassembled the parts. I think a good cobbler can put them back together. I've seen some awesome repair videos by Trenton & Heath or Tring shoe repair. The bespoke $10.000 most likely needed to be adjusted anyway, as they were made for another person. I can also recommend the channel Rose Anvil. He actually destroys shoes by cutting them in half.
@watcherwlc53
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSmithers Still I hope u feel better after seeing those shoes destroyed 😅
@watcherwlc53
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSwedishRider Hopefully this will make the OP of this thread feel much better ☺😅
@newsomecac
3 жыл бұрын
The material between the cork and outsole is most likely a crepe material. It’s purpose is to eliminate the squeaking that sometimes occurs.
@RWonline
3 жыл бұрын
Though I don't see myself ever having a pair of shoes worth 5 figures I always look forward to the videos from each member of the broadcast team. Not a classic, formal, or vintage guy, you've all taught me how a little attention here and there can help me compliment my wife, who always looks better anyway, when we go out, and make it seem as though I actually know what I'm doing. It really is amazing how differently people react to a guy who has paid a little attention to his details.
@johnnypiss
3 жыл бұрын
I honestly Will never understand why people pay that kind of money for something that goes on your feet and gets dirt and Filth and God knows what all over the bottom of it. Not to mention it gets sweaty, and why would you wear a paycheck on your feet?
@pankakotakismegalomavropou3355
3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I buy all my shoes used and just clean them up. I don't mind the coffee stains, mucus, blood and plasma on my clothes.
@msmlolmanpolybrige0335
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnypiss it lasts 10 times longer, but sometimes its just the brand so.
@ssj4kevin
3 жыл бұрын
I know people are name-dropping Rose Anvil in the comments, but I feel like doing a collaboration with Trenton And Heath would be more appropriate for this channel.
@IDR1961
3 жыл бұрын
What a nice way to destroy good value shoes and do not explain anything interesting related to the different construction methods. What kind of ignorance showed in this video. It is better to invite an expert to deconstruct properly those shoes and give proper explanations about materials, parts and quality.
@5t4n5
3 жыл бұрын
Me thinks a gentleman should invest in a decent pair of safety glasses before adventuring on any future "engineering" endeavours. You only got one pair of eyeballs.
@BasedCrusades
3 жыл бұрын
Raphael bled for you. Leave him a like.
@sunhuizart3821
3 жыл бұрын
I definitely recommend watching a few videos by Tring's Shoe Repair to learn how to take apart a shoe safely and efficiently ^ ^
@dangaines405
3 жыл бұрын
I left a like for this video because your team’s dedication. But cutting out two pairs of John Lobb’s was too painful to watch to the end…
@danielmiyahara320
3 жыл бұрын
They're not worth the price, the video proves that
@Erik_Swiger
3 жыл бұрын
This has been a welt of information.
@harryvandevorst1812
3 жыл бұрын
Well done! And yes, very surprisingly outcome, with such a large difference we should expect a high quality product, but you showed us how we've been tricked by commerce. The good old fashion shoemaker is still the best: hand made shoes!
@carltrotter7622
3 жыл бұрын
That was unique and amazing! Id love to see you take apart a canvassed suit vs a fused suit, I can imagine that would be much cheaper than this video! Wishing you a pleasant day, thank you for making mine! -Carl
@scottcarroll9201
3 жыл бұрын
Have to reset the "Days Without An Accident" sign at the Gentleman's Gazette studio back to zero.
@philwongnz
3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry what's the story with that hideous blue pinky ring? If you know you going to do some manual labour, why wear something like this? In fact why wear it at all????
@Reziac
3 жыл бұрын
Today I thought I'd arrived at Rose Anvil channel by mistake :) I think some of the tape bits are intended to prevent leather slippage while machine-stitching. Interesting how the bespoke shoe appears to be made from the inner custom fit on out, while the off-the-shelf shoe is more all one unit.
@stephenscott5304
Жыл бұрын
While a John Lobb bespoke shoe is an incredible shoe, $10,000 for the pair is, in my opinion, grossly overpriced.
@joeftan
3 жыл бұрын
Next time, make sure you’re up to date on your tetanus shots, wear protective gloves, and when ripping apart items with a ton of rusty nails in them, please wear EYE protection. Nice video though.
@lanceroparaca1413
3 жыл бұрын
Dude. Seriously its disgusting to see you destroy such fine stuff.
@rolf2360
3 жыл бұрын
That 'mystery' hairy stuff which did puzzle Raphael such a great deal is actually tarred felt (as used in roof insulation) and is the generally used material by West-End shoemakers. Equally West-End shoes do not have additional shanks. If the waist is properly constructed and rounded (or fiddle backed) and the heel height is within the standard range for men's shoes, the waist cannot bend lengthwise which a shank has to prevent.
@zatarawood3588
9 ай бұрын
The absence of a shank was very interesting. Are you saying that if there is enough width through the waist it cannot flex a lot anyway so they can leave the shank out? I thought that even high street shoes usually carry some kind of (plastic) shank?
@libertariancapitalist
3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see you guys cutting into a Meermin Linea Maestro shoes
@billyzahid5904
2 жыл бұрын
5:29 - Fate had it so that the metal shank had to go past Raphael's head and not his eye... phew.
@itsnotimportant2338
3 жыл бұрын
Have you considered the idea of making a video about brooches?
@pacol2481
3 жыл бұрын
So many near misses Raphael! 😶 Please remember eyes and fingers don’t grow back 😬. To be honest I could not finish watching the video 😵💫
@bpc610
3 жыл бұрын
The eyes got me. I like Raphael and wouldn't want to see him get hurt.
@amadejpesko
3 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. PS: I really love that plant in the background. Where did you bought it?
@gentlemansgazette
3 жыл бұрын
Nearly Natural
@amadejpesko
3 жыл бұрын
@@gentlemansgazette Thank you so much for your answer.
@jamesmosley8675
3 жыл бұрын
Well, what you have illustrated is that John Lobb shoes are incredibly overrated.
@EtsuMatsuya
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, a name brand is always going to be overrated for the price. When you pay for the name and not the product then be prepared to pay though the nose.
@RootsRockRebel
2 ай бұрын
He proved no such thing. What did you expect? That they made the shanks out of carbon fiber or had diamond encrusted nails holding on the heels? Ripping apart the shoes doesn't demonstrate how well they fit and it doesn't demonstrate how well they stand up to wear over time--the two most important aspects of shoe quality. Raphael is a penny pincher and doesn't like high-end menswear products. Hence why he wears second-hand stuff he buys on eBay. He's pretty much the anti-thesis of Hugo Jacomet or Kirby Allison.
@greatarabia8091
3 жыл бұрын
This channel is absolutely amazing. The videos are very fun to watch and I've learned a lot. There are many things I saw on this channel that I was already doing but now I understand why those things have to be done. Etiquette.
@manolokonosko2868
3 жыл бұрын
How much do you think it actually cost John Lobb to make the ready to wear pair, and how much for the bespoke pair, including the salary of the person taking the measurements of the customer’s feet? Considering that John Lobb has standard procedures to follow to minimize time, costs, and maximize profit, I wouldn’t be surprised if the real cost is less than 25% of the price for the RTW shoe, The bulk of the profit going to the distributors. The real profit for JL is in the bespoke pair.
@darthkatzs
2 жыл бұрын
John Lobb RTW and bespoke are actually not the same company. RTW is Hermes and Bespoke is still in the John Lobb family. It’s quite a complicated story, but don’t let the Lobb label fool you.
@ocean911
3 жыл бұрын
I love videos like this that takes a peek behind the wizards curtains so to speak to see what actually is the difference between factory and bespoke products. I give you nod of respect too for sacrificing a little blood for the channel. :)
@bucklberryreturns
3 жыл бұрын
Is nobody dying to make a joke about Sven's big blue ring? Yeah, me neither.
@RootsRockRebel
2 ай бұрын
I've noticed you have an axe to grind with John Lobb, Raphael. In this video you imply that the bespoke line shoes are overpriced and no better in quality than other bespoke makers. In your "Is it worth it" video, you plainly said that the ready to wear line is overpriced compared to other makers. Did John and William leave a nasty comment on one of your videos or something? I'm fortunate to own a few pairs of JL Paris shoes and one $11k bespoke pair and I don't need to rip them apart to know that they're all top-of-the-line shoes and worth every penny.
@DarkKar
3 жыл бұрын
We're all explorers here, unearthing together all the secrets from the Golden Age of gentlemen.
@juliushauck3981
3 жыл бұрын
Tbh, even if I would have the money to buy bespoke shoes from John Lobb, I wouldn't. Of course there is indeed a lot of work and they are made with a lot of skill, but since I am not into names but into quality (and of course style) I am pretty sure I can find the same quality from a less known brand for a lower price from another craftsmen. Especially since I am living in germany italy isn't that far away, so I could get those shoes while saving enough money to be able to afford the vacation there with the saved money. Of course they are great and I understand where the price comes from, but are they really five times better than a bespoke shoe for 2000? I don't think so.
@zilaz
3 жыл бұрын
Surely they aren't 5 times better than a 2000$ bespoke shoe, but thats really what top of the line is all about, perfecting nuances. I mean, can you really say that 2000$ bespoke shoes are 20x as good as 100$ either?
@juliushauck3981
3 жыл бұрын
@@zilaz there you've got a good point of course. But I can say that the differences are bigger between 2000$ besproke shoes and 100$ RTW shoes than they are between 10000$ bespoke John Lobb shoes and 2000$ bespoke shoes of a less famous shoemaker. Of course there is indeed a reason why John Lobb is that famous that he can take that much money, but you also do pay a lot for the brand itself. And I am not into names.
@richardwebb4374
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. There are more and more incredibly talented independent shoemakers. Many of whom make shoes that approach John Lobb level of quality. Some of that fee is certainly for the John Lobb name.
@lemat8558
3 жыл бұрын
...and now...we are looking forward to see you put them back together! This was interesting, and painful to watch!
@MisterRorschach90
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wanted to make or have a pair of boots made that are a cross between running shoes, hiking boots, and combat boots, made with high end shoe making techniques and materials. Cordovan, cork, etc. but also with a Kevlar or dyneema layers for increased protection as well as composite sections in the most vulnerable parts.
@podolanko7
2 жыл бұрын
Now put thee back together
@MrMoonpie001
2 жыл бұрын
Loved that Pinky Ring you had on. I am a Lapus stone fan. They have always been popular until the last 10 years or so. Can you share some information on that ring, where can I get one? Moonpie
@un.garcon
3 жыл бұрын
Raphael you are awesome! Please don't count the nails on video though ;) I own several pairs from Shoepassion and would really like it if you would dissect a pair of boots from them! (their boots are 360 GYW)
@lx95020
Жыл бұрын
Man I admire what you do.......but you and an X-acto knife (any tools) gives me anxiety!!!! Stay safe...
@lizcademy4809
2 жыл бұрын
Paging Nicole Rudolph [Shoe maker and designer for American Duchess historical shoes. She sometimes makes shoes on her channel ]
@Glostahdude
3 жыл бұрын
$10,000 shoes?! There is such a thing? For men? I would’ve thought women maybe….
@hemigod2
2 жыл бұрын
quite cringeworthy id say. if the other gentleman , your video partner had attempted this im afraid he would've ended up in the hospital for sure
@BORIS21610
Жыл бұрын
Well one thing that those nearly all good shoe brands forget is insole having good leather archsupport insole with gel and ortholite will turn every beautiful leather sole into best sportshoes they should consider it
@fluxnfiction5559
2 жыл бұрын
this video seriously made me half annoyed and half-amused that he was doing such a terrible job with deconstructing a shoe
@williamcooke5627
3 жыл бұрын
14:00 In school in a test on 'Industrial Arts', I was asked 'A wrench makes a very good hammer True or False?" I answered 'False' and got my mark.
@cyrilhudak4568
3 жыл бұрын
Bedo and the Potters make it look soooo easy. LOL
@kahlilhernandez7143
3 жыл бұрын
I'd say Raphael was using the wrong method and tools for the job - creating a safety hazard for himself.
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