Czerny, at his very best, is a bit better than Chopin at his worse. Do you agree that this is the best Czerny Etude?
@jacindaardern1738
Жыл бұрын
Which is still better than 99.9% of all composers
@icst4786
Жыл бұрын
Hard disagree. Chopin at his worst is pretty bad, however rare that was. Czerny by no means lags far behind Chopin in terms of best works, but his batting averages leave something to be desired.
@PointyTailofSatan
Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I find this piece rather simplistic harmonically. There is virtually no tension or contrast at all. It sounds like an exercise.
@lucazordancomposer1733
Жыл бұрын
Agree on the statement, not so much with the choice of this etude. As someone else pointed out, there is no tensiont in this exercise. Ok, there's a sweet melody, but the harmony is more simple than a chorale harmonized by a student in composition at their first year!
@mahler151
Жыл бұрын
Hard disagree. Czerny at his best sounds like AI-generated Chopin, which may sound even better still than Czerny.
@EdmundHeng80
3 ай бұрын
I remember throwing away my Czerny book when I was a student and told my teacher that I lost it. And she got me a Hanon book the following week which I hated even more LMAO.
@NiklasFischerComposer
Жыл бұрын
Very Schubert-like, especially the ending.
@ericrakestraw664
11 ай бұрын
This piece actually reminds me of one of Mendelssohn's Songs Without Words.
@contentcomedy3827
11 ай бұрын
Which? I’d love to hear it
@ericrakestraw664
11 ай бұрын
@@contentcomedy3827 Op. 38, No. 6 (Duetto) in A-flat.
@Khayyam-vg9fw
10 ай бұрын
It reminded me of Mendelssohn's solo piano music more generally.
@pianoatthirty
11 ай бұрын
Opus 740 has so many bangers
@marichristian1072
10 ай бұрын
My love for Czerny was crushed by his piano studies which I had to practice as a child. However this etude is beautifully performed.
@Oldman808
10 ай бұрын
You’re lucky your teacher wasn’t a fan of Brahm’s exercises.
@JoseFuentes-fn3dl
11 ай бұрын
Love Czerny's works. Many composers of the day believed Czerny focused too much on teaching and less on compositions because of his potential. He still made an impact regardless.
@JoseFuentes-fn3dl
11 ай бұрын
Check out Czerny: Etude in G minor, Op. 740 no. 50
@mehdiadlany
9 ай бұрын
Czerny composed many piano sonatas, nocturnes, preludes and fugues, symphonies, piano concertos. It's just that the gatekeepers of classical music like to keep his name attached to piano teaching. It's very sad.
@zswu31416
5 ай бұрын
Czerny composed a butt ton of works lmao
@creativesource3514
11 ай бұрын
Czerny are a must for serious piano students. Great teacher.
@Mr.pianobuddy
10 ай бұрын
Liszt was his student
@mohammedcohen
6 ай бұрын
...used'ta 'seriously dislike' having to practice what I felt were tuneless exercises (ca. late 50s/early 60s) - if only I'd known and taken these etudes more seriously...
@fjdyyh2542
Ай бұрын
No he isn't
@anigiuran109
Жыл бұрын
Lovely music ! Thank you ! 😊😊😊❤❤❤
@bigkahunauk1
Жыл бұрын
Bellissimo 🥰
@dreamescape.
Жыл бұрын
Thx for sharing 🙌
@bernardobortolotto6022
10 ай бұрын
THANKS I NEEDED THIS
@LascoDePasco
6 ай бұрын
Well, I think this is Carl Czerny at his best. When I was a little boy I had to play many of Czerny´s Etudes. Maybe sometimes it seemed to me a little bit boring. But now when I get older, I am over sixty now, I found his etudes very useful and never regret to play these pieces in the days of my youth. He had to be very good piano teacher!
@yuk_notkim7658
6 ай бұрын
I'm 14, and I'm aware that Czerny etudes are pretty fun to play. I'm trying to play his etudes from Op. 299, and I'm having fun playing them.
@MyCyprus2011
3 ай бұрын
Великолепное исполнение❤
@paulograca3937
11 ай бұрын
Very beautiful etude
@zoiloparagas1092
11 ай бұрын
One of my lessons in piano, Cherny.. my graduation piece.
@lluisrafalessole-classical5068
10 ай бұрын
Fantastic music 🎹🎶
@MrPhil480
10 ай бұрын
lol
@PointyTailofSatan
11 ай бұрын
I have to admit I rarely played Czerny. I practiced mainly using Bach's WTC. That pretty much covers most required technique, short of things like big Liszt like jumps and extreme dynamics.
@awakenwithoutcoffee
10 ай бұрын
Same here! Bach's WTC I, II and Inversions for counterpoint. Beethoven for structure, Scarlatti for melody and Chopin Etudes for technique. This is my suggested route for beginning pianists. It will take you 10 years but, if practiced correctly will make you a very capable pianist.
@rbarnes4076
10 ай бұрын
@@awakenwithoutcoffee A most excellent list! And one which I heartily agree with! Never played any Scarlatti, but for the rest I know from personal experience you are spot on. When anyone asks me about technique, I point to Chopin. Those pieces are a masterclass in how to approach the piano.
@awakenwithoutcoffee
10 ай бұрын
@@rbarnes4076 thank you! I have to point out that Scarlatti is a master of sequence, always repeating certain phrases of interest. For orchestral work I am still a novice but my studies have led me to Vivaldi (structure, melody and thematic development), Ravel (orchestral virtuosity, sound as color) and Rimski-Korsakoff (mastery of the instrument called the orchestra). And yes, Chopin truly is one of the giants of piano technique to study without a doubt. To be honest, if there was only 1master to study it would be Chopin since he encorporates so much of the lessons learned from other masters, in particular J.S. Bach.
@MassimoMalavasi
10 ай бұрын
Unbelievable!!!
@robertkukuczka9469
8 ай бұрын
Great piece of music.
@MrPhil480
8 ай бұрын
Mes compositions sont quand même plus belles que les siennes.
@josephhapp9
Жыл бұрын
Horowitz stated his favourite recording was Czerny: Variations on Ricordanza by Rode
@thekeyoflifepiano
11 ай бұрын
I love that piece, but the original melody isn't Czerny. It only goes downhill from the theme IMO.
@josephhapp9
11 ай бұрын
@@thekeyoflifepiano composed by Rode as stated.🥰
@kuruczalbert
11 ай бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/1K142KCQb6JjqKg I tried to find it but found this one and I like it.
@FERAFRA-yy9dz
6 ай бұрын
Lovely
@user-md4ix1qo5q
8 ай бұрын
This work makes me anticipate the appearance of Frantz Listz.
@georgeproject7504
10 ай бұрын
I don't think that Chopin and Czerny should be compared in any way. However it is an interesting piano exercise
@bosomgirdle
2 ай бұрын
Czerny brought Liszt to his highest level -- a flexible, cool teacher -- his music wasn't about theater -- it was about joy.
@davidecarollo70
11 ай бұрын
Great! Czerny is not mechanical studies only!
@kamint2258
4 ай бұрын
ショパン風で美しい曲❤❤❤
@germanhd1211
10 ай бұрын
Beautiful, but I like op 740, no 47 more. Many Czerny etudes are truly beautiful.
@emanueledemeo2408
11 ай бұрын
remember also that czerny was a teacher before a composer
@Annihilator_5024
10 ай бұрын
1:07 theme starts again in recording with C but sheet music shows A flat
@fatimacastro5770
10 ай бұрын
Estudei Czerny desde o primeiro livro. Este estudo está em qual volume.?
@vcherrrix
11 ай бұрын
For Czerny yes. Could be player with a much warmer tone quality. Perhaps, less mechanical pulse
@somemoreplaylists1781
11 ай бұрын
I don't find this performance "mechanical" at all. Let's not less bias blind our musical judgment please.
@HKWhang1
5 ай бұрын
I think either Op. 740 no. 24 or Op. 807 no. 67 are the most beautiful
@Usefulmusic
10 ай бұрын
Some player!
@Isaac-vm2jm
11 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if there is a accurate synthesia version of this? Im unable to read piano notes
@disinformationworld9378
11 ай бұрын
Oh boy. If you had synthesia you wouldn’t need the see the sheet music. You could hear the colors. Of course, everyone has differences of opinion on which colors they hear.
@WEEBLLOM
11 ай бұрын
@@disinformationworld9378 synthesia, not synesthesia
@pianisthenics
9 ай бұрын
Start learning it!! It will be much quicker and more detail oriented from the scores rather than seeing blocks of colors dropping.
@Piflaser
11 ай бұрын
Like an impromptu de Schubert.
@GaleRianes
11 ай бұрын
That's how many people feel.
@gaiadestais8087
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, but shorter and without all the different layers and contrasts...
@Piflaser
10 ай бұрын
@@gaiadestais8087 Like a Moment musical?
@gaiadestais8087
10 ай бұрын
@@Piflaser Kind of, but still, even in the Moments musicaux, Schubert tends to mix and shift between tonalities a lot, that's just part of his style. I feel like Czerny is more...straight-forward in a way. Of course, it's partly due to the fact this is a study, meant for exercise (and I feel it could be played in a less mechanical way as well, as someone has already stated).
@pianoman2332
11 ай бұрын
С большим уважением отношусь к Черни и этюдам которые сделали его известным, и на которых мы все учились. Учились, чтобы затем играть Шопена, Листа и других,которые намного выше Черни, даже в своих "неудачных" работах.
@Tata_Shipkovskaya
11 ай бұрын
Черни - недооцененный композитор! Этюды Черни - как букварь для музыканта. А помимо этюдов у него столько всего ещё написано...
@aldovilla6172
11 ай бұрын
Similar to Chopin's etude no.1 op. 25, same tonality and final bars
@einark3846
11 ай бұрын
This video is not black and white originally
@thekeyoflifepiano
11 ай бұрын
I did it to make the low res more tolerable.
@LondonarabS
11 ай бұрын
Am i the only hearing young schubert simmering in the background ?
@MrPhil480
11 ай бұрын
non...
@garudel
10 ай бұрын
Well, matter of taste...
@user-st1bh4dg5k
11 ай бұрын
It‘s Schubert!
@MrPhil480
10 ай бұрын
mais par exemple l impromptu 3 de Schubert est plus beau.
@user-jj8kg5ef2t
11 ай бұрын
Can really foreseen Chopin 25/1
@klam1742
10 ай бұрын
it remind me of "valse du désire" from Beethoven
@MrPhil480
10 ай бұрын
En effet il y a une ressemblance
@angelobonacci461
11 ай бұрын
Credo che nessun riferimento qui ci sia, è un bello studio,poi ne ha scritti di molto più utili e sicuramente non va paragonato a uno studio di chopin o altro 😢
@@acusado Yes but Czerny outlived Chopin by some 7 years, too. I guess the whole op. 740 which was first published in 1844 was inspired by the achievements of the contemporary pianism, and its goal was (and still is) to prepare the pianist technically for playing masterpieces by Chopin and Liszt, for example.
@danielgloverpiano7693
10 ай бұрын
It’s even closer to the Impromptu No. 1 in the same key. Especially the left hand patterns.
@pianista-mediocre
Ай бұрын
Liszt- Dante sonata?
@peterrhodes7785
10 ай бұрын
It's all bit too loud and the misjudged balance between the hands makes even the fleeting quiet moments heavy. As to a comparison with Chopin, his Op 25 No 1 Etude is from a different planet.
@MrPhil480
10 ай бұрын
vous n y comprenez pas grand chose , ou ne ressentez pas. . Beaucoup d' oeuvres de Bach comme les variations Goldberg sont elles d' une autre planète, mais pas ce morceau de chopin qui a juste sa petite mélodie, mais sans plus.
@fido652
4 ай бұрын
It is a little tense, but I rather enjoyed it. Unannounced at concert I wonder how many would say it was Chopin !
@lolbruh1170
11 ай бұрын
Listen to Wölfl etude op 56 no 15. That's better.
@kimsahl8555
11 ай бұрын
A masterpiece = Chopin op.28 no 19, and czerny is very small and a great teacher.
@MrPhil480
11 ай бұрын
non, pas spécialement beau ...
@WinrichNaujoks
10 ай бұрын
But why such a lo fi recording??
@elaineblackhurst1509
2 ай бұрын
A wide range of opinions in this thread, largely from listeners whose critical sense has apparently deserted them; this is thin gruel, and as such almost never appears in concert programmes for self-evident reasons. Czerny, like Hanon and a string of others, is largely mindless finger-twiddling exercises which, whilst teaching some of the *technique* necessary to play Beethoven for example, is otherwise *musically* almost worthless.
@yuk_notkim7658
9 ай бұрын
In my opinion, Czerny is better than Chopin.
@alainspiteri502
11 ай бұрын
technic near Chopin impromptu N-1 but without the genious : Czerny was not a poet . K Riisager wrote an orchestration of some studies , result is worst .
@jazzermester
11 ай бұрын
Why couldn't he write all his pieces like this
@thekeyoflifepiano
11 ай бұрын
Speed is addictive. . .
@jazzermester
11 ай бұрын
@@thekeyoflifepiano I mean harmonically
@jazzermester
11 ай бұрын
@@thekeyoflifepiano you can write fast pieces with nice harmony as well
@markhughes7927
11 ай бұрын
Nice but he could Czern them out 😂!
@therealtruetwelfth798
11 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@beethovenberlioz
10 ай бұрын
Si vabbè... Czerny meglio di Chopin...sì sì come no
@laurenth7187
11 ай бұрын
You can only see how far he is from Chopin.
@argi0774
Ай бұрын
This is of course not Czerny's most beautiful etude
@user-zm3bu5er8f
11 ай бұрын
Don't know how commentators can compare Czerny's music with Chopin's. IMHO this study, for all its beauty, is incredibly superficial even in chromatic fragments
@cantavanda
Жыл бұрын
Come on.... this??!? Check out his etude Op. 399 No. 10. Thank me later. It's an absolute masterpiece. Not this.
@Cjjk3
Жыл бұрын
I like it better but it doesn't sound as calming and beautiful as this one does.
@cantavanda
Жыл бұрын
@@Cjjk3 Oopsy! The title says "beautiful" hahahaha! I thought "best". Was confused by the comment by the uploader LOL!
@alidacordoves6513
11 ай бұрын
Cherny and Chopin were great composers. Stop this nonsense comparison.
@adeemuff
11 ай бұрын
Yes, Op. 399 No. 10 is very nice. I also like "Ocean Waves" and "perseverance"
@MrPhil480
11 ай бұрын
Mais si ce morceau dont vous parlez est un chef d oeuvre absolu , que dire des morceaux de Bach...comme les toccatas bwv 910-916..exemple : kzitem.info/news/bejne/03iNzp-rrH-kam0
@alexandreblanc9294
11 ай бұрын
Czerny is for musicians and not for technicist.
@kuruczalbert
11 ай бұрын
Yes it is nice but without any surprise. You can predict the whole piece from the first line. Excellent performance though.
@pauljones724
10 ай бұрын
No I disagree .Cherry is nice but Chopin is the best classical pianist of then I think Seriously!! Chopin was made for the piano!!!!!!. I am sorry!!!
@MrPhil480
10 ай бұрын
Chopin est bien, mais c' est Bach le meilleur au piano, avec les plus géniales et émotionnelles architectures. Chopin est plus fait pour le peuple....
@MrPhil480
11 ай бұрын
Le plus beau que je connaisse, d un point de vue purement mélodique sans parler de complexité, reste celui ci : kzitem.info/news/bejne/zHeKn6agqoZ0ZIo mais mes propres morceaux sont plus beaux....
@user-mk4nr9te7p
10 ай бұрын
Люди добрые помогите пожалуйста вы это о чём. Карл Черни один из самых лучших, вас дурят .Ф.Лист.
@fjdyyh2542
Ай бұрын
Nah not really
@goranjovanovic9885
10 ай бұрын
I always hated Czerny.
@yuk_notkim7658
9 ай бұрын
I like Czerny, but I dislike Chopin.
@matswessling6600
11 ай бұрын
why playing so brutally? not a good rendition..
@Piflaser
11 ай бұрын
Better this way than not.
@matswessling6600
11 ай бұрын
@@Piflaser no. this makes the music a dis-service.
@datalore6187
11 ай бұрын
Played with no musicality at all. Well practiced and secure but other than that...
@somemoreplaylists1781
11 ай бұрын
Ridiculous and useless comment. The performance is no less musical than how Cliburn would play it. It's an idiomatic Czerny etude. What can you expect?
@MrPhil480
11 ай бұрын
les nuances sont bien là et bien faites tout de même.
@Manx123
11 ай бұрын
This isn't played that well, and it's not even the best etude of the Op. 740 set. To be fair, this is a live recording of all the etudes, so it's understandable if other, first-rate pianists have recorded better studio versions.
@thekeyoflifepiano
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your opinion.
@Manx123
11 ай бұрын
@@thekeyoflifepiano You're welcome. I think Neuberger's interpretation of No. 45, could be more expressive, (i.e., slower), but it's technically flawless, and his recording of the op. 740 set is or should be considered the standard.
@Manx123
11 ай бұрын
@@thekeyoflifepiano Also, how on earth is this here played _dolce, sempre legatissimo e cantabile_? This performance seem like none of those. Also compare to Libetta's performance.
@Manx123
11 ай бұрын
To be fair, this is a live recording of all the etudes, so it's understandable if other, first-rate pianists have recorded better studio versions.
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