'The train burning on platform one is the 5 30 to....'
@martynpalmer7340
10 жыл бұрын
engines in these babies were completely revolutionary and at the time had the highest power to weight ratio of any engine in the world back in the day when Britain had big ideas and the political will to see them through to fruition
@mervynsands3501
3 жыл бұрын
It lived to see another day. Great locos capable of cracking performances.😉👊👍
@formidable38
11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was a fan trip. The locomotive was to haul it all day from Scotland to London but it didn't go as planned. It was a shame as many people had waited for the event for many, many years and a lot of folk worked hard to make it happen. However, the initial problems were worked out and we now have regular 100 MPH Deltic trips on the mainline once more!
@darrenfranklin3569
7 жыл бұрын
the fire was a known problem for deltics, being a two stroke engine oil would collect in the exhaust collector drum, when hot it would bake and form like a charcoal. and sometimes it would catch fire, not a real problem as its contained in the exhaust system, but in BR days they would have just thrashed the loco to blow the fire/ burnt oil out.
@philnewstead5388
4 жыл бұрын
Darren Franklin Exactly right, a friend of mine now retired had one do it to him at the platform end at the Cross late one Afternoon and did exactly what you described. It was also a problem with the baby deltic, if they were used on an engineers train on the weekend where they spent a lot idling and then got put on a suburban working on Monday morning apparently a fire was almost inevitable. Of course nowadays the railway would have to be closed for about a month whilst an investigation is carried out and then we'd have to have a public enquiry into the outcome of the report in the meantime the entire fleet would be stopped. How much simpler it would be if the railway was still run by railwaymen.
@timwattison4419
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, having driven D9000 on the mainline myself I was lucky enough to not experience a collector drum fire, however the problem existed because the drain pipe from the collector drum would get blocked with oil and other drposits and back up into the drum itself, this happened again on 22 whilst on a tour to Paignton a few years ago. No probs though as the then owner sorted it out and it worked back dragging a duff at high speed, 😂😂😂 needless to say, mods were carried out and hopefully fires will now be a thing of the past with 22. 🤞
@philnewstead5388
4 жыл бұрын
Tim Wattison It's amazing how they ran in service for twenty years with this potential problem and it takes preservationists to try and address the problem thirty some odd years after they finished regular service. It's the same with Duke Of Gloucester.
@waldenhouse
10 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me that what is now a great spectacle with hundreds of people travelling miles to see, was once an everyday occurrence which didn't attract a glance! Great footage. Thanks for sharing.
@lewisner
10 жыл бұрын
I used to bash the Deltics between Newark and Cleethorpes in 80-81 and sometimes I was practically the only person on the train, let alone bashers on the train.
@tpvalley
10 жыл бұрын
yes but then they used to just rev the engine to blow out the fire in the silencer drum.
@DENPTrains
Жыл бұрын
Could say the same about the HSTs now, no?
@OlafProt
5 ай бұрын
Oh it always attracted glances. The Deltic, like Concorde, never failed to turn heads.
@AnneInda
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the memories. I was on this train (and probably visible somewhere in that sad crowd watching D9000 being hauled away into the dark, still smoking). Highlight of my entire trainspotting "career" during my 20+ years in England. I remember as we were approaching York, being pulled by (I think) a Class 47, someone had one of the early GPS receivers and was asking what the 47's were rated for. We were evidently going well over the rated speed. British Rail was NOT happy and wanted us off the ECML as soon as possible. Thanks again.
@simonlilley
6 жыл бұрын
The rescue loco at Berwick was a 37. That was swapped for an 86 at Newcastle as I recall. I was on the train as well.
@Stoat13
11 жыл бұрын
Each engine is two-stroke with a mechanically driven supercharger. The exhaust passes through a collector drum in order to reduce the amount of oil that is likely to be ejected to the atmosphere with the exhaust. This is where the fire occurred. In service, fires were sometimes blown out by racing the engines. In this instance the carbon build up in the collector drum was too severe for this method to work. For information about Napier Deltic engines web search for "Napier Deltic".
@michellemarshall3667
6 жыл бұрын
They were not supercharged,they were air charged with a scavenge blower. Rick M.
@breezeblockindustrie
6 жыл бұрын
made worse by probably light loading and now going on fire when it sees a bit of work to really get the heat up in the exhaust
@Stoat13
11 жыл бұрын
Not much if any, the fire was contained in the exhaust system which is able to withstand high temperatures. These fires were common in normal service.
@D9021
11 жыл бұрын
Standard practise for blowing out exhaust fires in Deltics. In BR days it was quite a common occurrence and drivers would frequently blow out a fire in this manner and carry on without any ill effects.
@Steven_Rowe
3 жыл бұрын
it is amazing the 25kv didn't flash over as flames are conductive
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
Жыл бұрын
Look at how the fire of the second engine on the right it’s touching the Berwick upon tweed station canopy
@robpeter1
11 жыл бұрын
HELLFIRE !
@matthewparsons5289
9 жыл бұрын
It was ment to catch fire at 8 15 but as usual they were/are running late..
@koitorob
6 жыл бұрын
Is this where the Deltics got their extra power? AFTERBURNERS???
@raymondk2202
3 жыл бұрын
Lol. They have fat compressors but this was not right. Ran a bit rich. Think someone accidentally pulled the choke.🤡
@22fret
10 жыл бұрын
Haha! What is even louder than a Deltic? Scottish pipes... :D
@gizmothewytchdoktor1049
6 жыл бұрын
i noticed that. ;-)
@animaltvi9515
3 жыл бұрын
Is that what that horrific noise was.
@duncanbrown1864
6 жыл бұрын
Its no biggy. Everything comes to a halt at Berwick upon Tweed. Hopes. Dreams. Deltics...the list is practically endless.
@sgw8903
Жыл бұрын
I agree... but it all depends which direction you are traveling. ;)
@lde2100
12 жыл бұрын
Such a nice diesel locomotive. A beast that likes to eat miles :X!
@soundseeker63
11 жыл бұрын
Thats a shame. But at least they got some decent running out of it before it broke down. Apparently there were a number of exhaust fires with HSTs during the introduction of the 91s, which was caused by long periods of idling. This was solved by running the diesel in tandem with the electric and thus keeping the exhausts free from unburned fuel.
@ylwpyro9549
8 жыл бұрын
Fortunately, this Deltic went on to have another chance. In 2011, GB Railfreight needed more locomotives to cope with the demand in rail freight, and so "Royal Scots Grey" briefly came out of retirement to serve on the main line once more, albeit on loan to GB Railfreight. She served with GB Railfreight again for a brief period in 2013 as well. "Royal Scots Grey" has had a pretty eventful life, I would say.
@dewiz9596
7 жыл бұрын
My first flight was a Connie, 1951
@pistonbroke0461
8 жыл бұрын
The result of too much oil in the collector drum at the free end of the engine! The delicious engine was designed to be given the guts! not be molly coddled!
@pistonbroke0461
8 жыл бұрын
#Deltic
@jimusgrimus
8 жыл бұрын
On preservation work, D9015 had a hole drilled in the collector drum and any excess oil was drawn off...........I did it myself before a Butterley Running day in 1988.
@pistonbroke0461
8 жыл бұрын
+kelly what was the cause of the fire in the end?
@CRISIS550166
7 жыл бұрын
Roger Radcliffe a DPS committee member operating the train brakes from the coaches.
@planegaper
3 жыл бұрын
indeed, 2 strokes need to be punished, it why they put Detroit Diesel in long haul busses and highway Trucks, even with lower rated hp than some of the 4 stroke competition, they would hold max power as long as you want, and deliver it's best milage at those engine speeds.. Downside is , unless it's getting the berries, problems arise ,..HST solved this with the genius power pack , engine could idle at stations or low speed no problem, but run reliably at high boost pressures once asked.. very efficient and 4 stroke emissions, we under estimate how good a design the power plant of the HST is.. it was a revolution at the time, and truly brought 4 stroke traction to the fore in reliability , light weight and good economy.. Paxman made a real Gem..
@THEATREofPAIN270
11 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. Liked it.
@ianhiggins8728
10 жыл бұрын
I have had the privilege of operating these engines in a boat. I was wondering how they overcame it, the problem of exhaust fires. We had to run the engines at 1000 rpm for a minute after idleing for 5 minutes to stop pay reduce ultimate incident of funnel fire.
@royspiers82
6 жыл бұрын
Ian Higgins i
@jocratt3624
8 жыл бұрын
At 10:04 RIP overhead wire that got fried
@bennickss
Жыл бұрын
Hellfire in a literal sense
@yankinga
9 жыл бұрын
Who's got the marshmallows?
@24nov67
11 жыл бұрын
there was a deltic in glasgow's old eastfield traction depot last friday 12-7-2013, it's the first time i've seen one in the flesh and it's a magnificet beast to behold.
@AllianceB95
11 жыл бұрын
Aah i understand now Thanks for explaining it :) Cheers
@khadijagwen
8 жыл бұрын
It's the bane of diesel engines not run at full load. They get "wet stacked" and have to be run hard to burn it all out.
@buggs9950
7 жыл бұрын
And now, over half a century later, an everyday diesel car has a similar problem with DPFs. Progress eh?
@MrBugsier5
6 жыл бұрын
just crappy designed engines it is....
@irelandbloke
10 жыл бұрын
Great video !
@Viper-CT
3 жыл бұрын
1:06 that horn sounds like it means business compared to Other more standard locomotives of its time.
@berwickspotter
11 жыл бұрын
Can remember it very well .
@Masire0009
6 жыл бұрын
This is like a Deltic Movie being up there surveying the area lol
@frankroberts9320
7 жыл бұрын
What was causing the fireworks in the catenary at 2:27, 2:55 and 3:03? Also, how is it possible that the 25 kv overhead line did not arc through the flame to the engine? Fire, being mainly composed of ionized gases, is an excellent electrical conductor. Did the recloser open the line after one or two nasty arcs that were missed by the camera operator?
@oneconfusedenglishman7344
7 жыл бұрын
I think all of those time stamps you put was someone with a flash camera?
@frankroberts9320
7 жыл бұрын
I believe you are correct sir.
@sealbeachfelipe
7 жыл бұрын
Frank Roberts k
@planegaper
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure those exhaust stacks were well grounded to the rails or some sort of heat exchanger or sink anywhere they ran under electrified trackage.. it's basically a big generator , and there must have been big spikes going to the traction motors from time to time.. best guess he could handle 25k for a couple of seconds if she got zapped..
@laviniaharper6021
8 жыл бұрын
love this train video
@pajotero4219
3 жыл бұрын
I used to go Kings X to Peterborough one night a week after work just for the ride behind one of these
@Mog435
10 жыл бұрын
like bloody love em !!!
@CRISIS550166
7 жыл бұрын
Caused by Roger Radcliffe who now trades as Alycidon Engineering, a then DPS committee member tampering with the brakes via a MK1 coach butterfly valve. The DPS turned a blind eye to this as it was a DNLL loco and the DPS hated them for getting a Deltic on the mainline before they did. When Radcliffe got drunk and repeated the stunt, on a DPS trip to Scarborough and ending up in the Sun newspaper, the DPS booted him off the committee....
@danilopeterson3467
8 жыл бұрын
As I can see this is a special train with old Deltics, I must say that I am happy to see the much needed electrification for regular everyday usage.!
@24nov67
11 жыл бұрын
thanks for the reply, i tried to tape it on my smartphone but i had only just got it and wasn't sure how it worked lol.
@Stoat13
10 жыл бұрын
"Disco Inferno" :-)
@davidjb65
10 жыл бұрын
And you can be fined £50 for smoking on any railway platform?
@MasterMoyle
6 жыл бұрын
Or more if it's weed your caught smoking.
@EraCraba
10 жыл бұрын
We´d like listen to the noise and extreme profanityes!
@jacobjohnston1218
6 жыл бұрын
pop goes the diesel
@jaggass
2 жыл бұрын
It takes alot to starter a Deltic engine. Chris Barrie once had to do alot of pumping and winding.
@jessicaneitzel4780
7 жыл бұрын
UH, YOUR LOCO IS ON FIRE
@mattseymour8637
5 жыл бұрын
Great video of the Deltic. How did they put it out ?
@billfusionenterprise
6 жыл бұрын
thing the bagpipe music drove it nuts?
@bjoe385
3 жыл бұрын
“Duh, it’s supposed to be on fire”
@jocratt3624
7 жыл бұрын
when you put the train on the highest notch of power
@bingola45
8 жыл бұрын
That's a fire in the exhaust drum; not exactly an unknown Deltic phenomenon. The crew seemingly didn't know how to deal with it. Are there no time-served Deltic men left?
@harrymurray2515
4 жыл бұрын
They said it's a £50 fine for smoking tobacco on a railway. But what's the fine for chewing tobacco ?
@yennerz00bradderz
2 жыл бұрын
Surprised it didn’t melt the OHLE
@Raul1971xxx
3 жыл бұрын
There is some fuel leak somewhere..
@yankinga
9 жыл бұрын
'Ere, now, what's all this, then?
@SvenTviking
9 жыл бұрын
Interestin that the class 86 electric loco in the film is not that much younger than the class55, but still in service.
@ploopy5235
9 жыл бұрын
except the 86's are what 40 now
@yankinga
9 жыл бұрын
The resale value of that catenary is going to be nil.
@FinnDavid2979
9 ай бұрын
hi everyone where is the class 37 going with the class 55 please tell me!!!!!
@jamescrow6687
10 жыл бұрын
Burn Baby Burn, sorry for the immaturity that used to be a common sight when these were running everyday
@AdrianWilsonBridders1234
11 жыл бұрын
Common fault with the Napier Deltic, oil in the exhaust silencer caused many fires
@AllianceB95
11 жыл бұрын
That must have been a blown turbo right therewith unburned Oil out of the turbo. Very nice tho! What i dont understand is why do they keep on thrashing it instead of shutting it down ? Very nice vid!
@73Datsun180B
6 жыл бұрын
no turbo, supercharged 2 stroke, oil build up in exhaust like most 2 strokes!
@buggs9950
7 жыл бұрын
I love the Deltic sound as much as I hate the bagpipe sound. Tuneless, ear-piercing windybags..
@alisonlee3314
7 жыл бұрын
Poor old girl......
@martinbrzeczek172
7 жыл бұрын
When is a Deltic not a Deltic ? When it's running on one engine !!
@chrisst8922
4 жыл бұрын
Then it's a baby Deltic.
@pennyjunction9066
4 жыл бұрын
Was this a normal service or a special one
@evitomocol
12 жыл бұрын
not good what time did you get back to start point
@trainsmad3307
11 жыл бұрын
cool vid.
@cycledayz
11 жыл бұрын
dont think that was suppose to set on fire at 9.00
@DOCTORDROTT
6 жыл бұрын
Keep it running and blast it out
@littlepouser2
8 жыл бұрын
that loco shouyld of bee shut down right away tha put people in danger i thaught all diesel locos whe fitted with fire fighting units onboard
@andywill9548
5 жыл бұрын
Fucking Hell, learn to speak English or at least grammar and spell check before commenting
@DaveInBridport
11 жыл бұрын
Would the fire have caused any damage to the loco?
@ironpirites
6 жыл бұрын
Troll here: If this had happened on an airplane, one thing is for damn sure. People wouldn't have been standing around gawking at it.
@richardharris8229
7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how long they let you continue to video that 😳😳 It was a bloody fire!!! Not just one simple backfire of the engine. Why wasn't the station evacuated & the engine shut down?? Love the vid though, well done.
@CRISIS550166
7 жыл бұрын
Step forward, Mr Rodger Radcliffe DPS
@Moe-hz9og
3 жыл бұрын
I like how people just walk around while a forty year old oil powered gas locomotive is intensely on fire and it is spreading, the people just seem like it’s normal to see a wildfire inside a fucking train 😂
@geoffreyblack5982
5 жыл бұрын
Is this engine the same as a spitfire? They both sound awesome in both form's of transport.
@theodor12
4 жыл бұрын
No, that had a Rolls Royce Merlin V12 engine, this has a two stroke, opposed piston diesel engine.
@brianwhittington5086
2 жыл бұрын
The Napier Deltic engine was originally designed for fast marine use, and was fitted in Royal Navy patrol boats. Each engine has 18 pistons, arranged in an equilateral triangle shape block. It is a two stroke engine, and has two opposing pistons in each cylinder, each piston connected to one of the 3 crankshafts, one on each corner that feed their power to the engines main output drive. In the Class 55 Deltic, each engine can produce over 1625HP. Each Deltic locomotive has two of these engines fitted. It can run on one engine power, or two. The engines can work together, or independently, and both will come fully on song together when the driver needs the full combined constant power of 3300HP.
@matthew0605
Жыл бұрын
Just sheer diesel power !!. Thank you Brian for such a in-depth explanation, I thought I knew much about the Deltic Diesel prime mover but I've learnt more from your explanation.
@istranes
11 жыл бұрын
Was this what we Yanks call a railfan trip or was it a revenue run?
@richardharrold9736
3 жыл бұрын
The former. Deltics were withdrawn from revenue-earning service by BR in the early 1980s.
@cjtait4415
9 жыл бұрын
cool , id like to be on one of those 55's of couse if it wasn't on fire
@charlotteclarke4665
9 жыл бұрын
I guess that's the last we saw of D9000
@helenlunn3829
7 жыл бұрын
Charlotte Clarke Nope, It's still around and sometimes was on hire to GBRF a few years ago, but it's at the NYMR now.
@charlotteclarke4665
7 жыл бұрын
Alastair Lunn I would've thought they had to scrap it after an incident like this.
@BadgerBadgerBadger28
5 жыл бұрын
Not a accident just oil in exhaust It builds up then burns you’ve got to take it out on main line and really load that engine up the get it burned off problem solved
@D9021
11 жыл бұрын
That would be this same locomotive, currently in BR blue livery as 55022 - it's been hired in by GBRf and is being used to transfer class 334 units from Yoker to Kilmarnock, where they are being refurbished. It usually takes one set down to Kilmarnock and brings another one back.
@Nine-Signs
5 жыл бұрын
On fire & late. For the UK I'd say that's working perfectly. Looks like a blown turbo.
@johntrevena4280
5 жыл бұрын
deltics werent turbo,d but blowing on them helps coz its 2stroke diesel. NAPIER....
@williamradford9631
7 жыл бұрын
Exhaust fire. One Class 55 start its engines or blow up. should be with drawn and on static display.
@herrbohnen
10 жыл бұрын
oil in the exhaust?
@ALANSWEETIES99
8 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable look like is overheat of this train cause catch fire wasn't???!
@jekanyika
10 жыл бұрын
Its all fun and games until somebody loses a head.
@hunterneitzel3012
3 жыл бұрын
8:51 it's on fire
@BadgerBadgerBadger28
5 жыл бұрын
Just take it and rev the knackers out of it at speed problem solved
@marioburgess4400
6 жыл бұрын
Its is hull train station
@AlexA-ip9tf
11 жыл бұрын
In Britain, the most One dead locomotives.
@nitemover1
9 жыл бұрын
I have seen a lot of deltic video's on youtube and they alway's are just running on one engine are they scared of burning more fuel or something.
@Stoat13
9 жыл бұрын
stuart fleming From what I understand about the Deltic control system, the second engine doesn't provide any power until the loco is moving above a certain speed, which with UK preserved railway line speeds you're just wasting engine hours. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable of the Deltic control system could explain better, if they want to.
@GarethT902
8 жыл бұрын
+Stoat13 Engine no 2 kicks in at 20mph it has to be used in the winter months for the electric train heating to work.
@photography94
6 жыл бұрын
Not good how the hell did that happen lol
@tallersimon
8 жыл бұрын
there must be a thing between napier and fires,an old fella once told me it was common when starting napier sabre fighter engines in ww2
@TransportCambs
7 жыл бұрын
Did it actually catch fire?
@RobertdMacGregor
7 жыл бұрын
what do you think?
@bobsmart2110
7 жыл бұрын
Staltwitch junction well that's why the Navy took them out of minesweepers ?don't forget a minesweeper is a wooden ship and they had a few funnel fires
@richardharrold9736
3 жыл бұрын
@@bobsmart2110 the Deltic minesweepers were/are fibreglass.
@DocterGeko
7 жыл бұрын
ah the Detlic's, the class 28's may have suffered with teething troubles, but they didn't catch fire every other day
@josephemmanuel3175
3 жыл бұрын
Engine failed
@nathan83699
8 жыл бұрын
the problem was she had been running all morning then the driver was giving her the guns which then caused her to overheat
@hildaibrahim6916
8 жыл бұрын
what the deltic name
@AlycidonDeltic
7 жыл бұрын
55022 Royal Scots Grey
@gauravgaurav7329
6 жыл бұрын
GAURAV
@bhumikagami4739
5 жыл бұрын
Hii
@khadijagwen
8 жыл бұрын
Prolly should have just run it and let it burn its self out.
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