I invented the Daisy Chain when I was a 13 year-old kid/7th-Grader working for Bill Forrest and Chris Walker at Forrest Mountaineering in Denver in 1970. Every day I would ride my bike over to Bill's "factory" in the basement of a house at 26th and Cherry Streets in Denver. The first one that I made was a series of 3" loops in a 6 foot circle of 1/2" blue tubular webbing that I bought by the foot at the Holubar store in Denver. At the time I was a very serious solo (self-belayed) aid climber and I used it as a way to rest and not have to call for tension if I happened to be climbing a vertical wall or roof with or without a partner. It was quite a help in resting between the placement of anchors. One day, I showed the creation to Bill Forrest and he suggested that we make and sell them. Shorty thereafter, we made them out of 3/4" and 1" black flat webbing. They were double looped through a Swami Belt and Leg Loops, thus providing a great way to have an additional belay anchor and/or a way to rest while aid climbing or Jumaring or prussiking. We put the Daisy Chain in the next catalog and It was a big hit, just like the Aid Copperhead nuts, Foxhead Nuts, Etriers/Stirrups and Tiny Tim Pack. The Daisy Chain was a name I randomly contrived that stemmed from some paper chains that a hot chick, Dina G., in my math class would make out of Juicy Fruit gum wrappers. She called them Daisy Chains. So...in effect, The Daisy Chain was invented by a 7th-grader who named it after a hot chick named Dina in a junior high math class in Denver in 1970. The bar-tacking between the loops tested-out at whatever the strength of the webbing that we used would hold. As I recall, 1" tubular held 4,000 pounds and 3/4" held 3,000 pounds. Never once did I/we at Forrest worry about tensile strength...EVER. Ahhh, The Good Old Days.
@ClimbClear
3 ай бұрын
This is the best comment I have ever read.
@christopherdunlap88
6 жыл бұрын
I'm confused. You claim that you shouldn't use the daisy as a self anchor and it is only used in Aid climbing. Yet in the picture that you showed, the daisy is being hooked into the bolt, and it looks an awful lot like an anchor setup. Since many use this as an anchor, I do not, what is the difference in your picture of clipping it in as an anchor and using it for Aid climbing?
@zb9795
3 жыл бұрын
When he says "self anchor", he is referring to using it to attach yourself directly to an anchor -- with no rope in the system. As he described, without the rope, the system becomes much more inelastic and prone to shock-loading, a real danger, especially when factor 2 falls are possible. You can still use the daisy chain to "build an anchor" for your rope to attach to -- the key difference is that this second scenario has the rope in the system. The rope's stretch adds enormous elasticity to the system and essentially removes the possibility of shock loading.
@tomjdesigns1280
4 жыл бұрын
2:09 carabiner lock should not face the rock ;)
@jonathanrussellkirk
4 жыл бұрын
this guy climbs
@tittyrino
3 жыл бұрын
Never against a tree or a rock for sure!!
@TheBlackJewelz
4 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, when you say “support” body weight-this means daisy chains are not ever meant to be the sole medium of holding one’s body weight, correct?
@erinmcgowan7980
4 жыл бұрын
check the website of the specific sling you got. One from Ocun clearly is ment for it as stated on their website.
@zb9795
3 жыл бұрын
A daisy chain can, by itself, sufficiently hold and support your stationary body weight. But only your STATIONARY body weight -- it is not meant to support your body weight in a FALLING SITUATION. When the term "body weight" is referred to in climbing, often it is referring to the "actual force of one's body weight while stationary." This essentially is the "weight" you read on your bathroom scale. You weigh 160 lb? You exert 160 lb of force downwards while stationary. But if you are falling, the amount of force you will exert, and thus, the force required to stop you, will be magnitudes greater, depending on how quickly you stop. What once was only 160 lb while stationary can now generate and require over 2000 lb of force to stop in certain situations.
@sjmiller131
2 жыл бұрын
No. They are just as strong as any other sewn sling when used correctly.
@__Paul__
Жыл бұрын
This video is wrong, except for pointing out the no-no on looping more than one loop on a daisy chain. If you are at the anchor, do NOT put one locker in one bolt, then put another locking biner into the other biner. This defeats the purpose of daisy chain protection, GODDAMMIT! Instead, clip the other locking biner into the OTHER anchor bolt. If you only have two lockers, then put one in each bolt, and face them outward AWAY from the rock. If you have 4 locking biners, even better. Put one biner with the locker facing the rock, and the other one opposed, facing AWAY from the rock. Do this for BOTH anchor points, not just for one. You can use a daisy chain or webbing, but a daisy chain is going to be far more flexible to each top bolt anchoring scenario, especially if you are going to be top belaying as well. Better yet, use a cordellette! IF you do not understand 100% of what I just told you, then do NOT proceed with any outdoor climbing until you do. Pick up a copy of John Long's book on climbing anchors. Read it cover to cover, and then read it again. Repeat after me: What is most important is REDUNDANCY! What is most important is REDUNDANCY! (No, that was no echo.)
@andersonboy620
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks!!
@BrosephRussell
8 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@SierraOfficial
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Joseph. Glad you enjoyed it. :) - Chris
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