People need to be brave enough to have that uncomfortable conversation and I have to give credit to Hiller for trying.
@BananaDanceMan
Ай бұрын
Right to your face or anyone's: Greg is a huckster. Dave is incompetent. Don and Dave destroyed CrossFit. The Games are never coming back because CrossFit is a radioactive brand. Gym owners should de-affiliate yesterday. Good work Hiller.
@ItsMe-wm4mc
25 күн бұрын
Dude wtf is wrong with your eye. Geezus krist it's fn weird
@kamzjess8456
Ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion…she doesn’t have to talk to him. Everyone has a choice of who they want in their space whether or not someone said anything about them. #JustSaying
@tinkthestrange
Ай бұрын
I think he would agree. But her refusing to talk to him means that his only recourse is to talk to himself on his platform
@jopainting1668
11 күн бұрын
@@tinkthestrange😂 Truth.
@jakechapmancf
Ай бұрын
When you walked up to her she probably thought you were a gay German man. Can’t blame her for being on the back foot. Those guys are intense.
@hillerfit
Ай бұрын
Hahahahahahahaah dammit
@DavidWied
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@slowsmooth3440
Ай бұрын
Dude Perf.
@TORALOLA
Ай бұрын
"Iz Hiller gay?"
@Wanderlustkiddo805
Ай бұрын
You did look very hobo like 🤭 but maybe more clothes is better for sun protection. Dani probably wanted to be naked 😬
@zacktenney9693
Ай бұрын
Imagine relentlessly criticizing and harassing someone online - and then confronting them in person, and wondering - "what did I do to upset you??" Hiller is either naive and oblivious (doubt it) OR he knows that he's doing it for clicks and attention.
@RogueCylon
Ай бұрын
When you’re with Sevan and Taylor you are like a frat boy, and aligned lockstep with their viewpoints. Just doesn’t seem like you.
@katefoster9743
Ай бұрын
🙌🏻
@SweatinSixty
Ай бұрын
Hiller whispering like Spegle is sleeping in the bed next to him…
@michaeldecker8853
Ай бұрын
Hillers lady is way hotter
@SweatinSixty
Ай бұрын
@@michaeldecker8853 Maybe she was there too..? 🤔
@ManfredvonREKToften
Ай бұрын
this is the plot twist we all want. throuple of the century.
@samuele.marcora
Ай бұрын
I think Hiller has a crush on Speegle
@MegaJasonmiller
Ай бұрын
I would love to exist in the version of the universe where they agree to do a video together like the Haley Adams video, no holds barred, split the ad sense. It would be the most viewed video of all time and both would benefit greatly.
@thisisspartacus
Ай бұрын
What does Dani have to benefit from a Hiller interview? He makes videos about her more than any other athlete because she drives views to his channel, if she mentioned him on her instagram no one would care.
@MegaJasonmiller
Ай бұрын
@@thisisspartacusif you spend some time thinking about it you’ll figure it out, and it’s not about that Hiller is interviewing her, that’s the one dimensional answer.
@thisisspartacus
Ай бұрын
@@MegaJasonmiller I mean in the time it took you to write that reply out you could have just answered the question. Sounds like you don’t have an answer though. I’ll help you out, the only thing she has to gain from Hiller is endearing herself to some Hiller’s followers which most of which already follow her anyway.
@MegaJasonmiller
Ай бұрын
@@thisisspartacus what happens when you subtract Hiller’s subscriber count from the views on the Haley video? What does that mean? How many fence sitters decide to follow Dani? Does she see any uptick in merch sales? Could she use that content to add heat to her dead YT channel? Could she pick up any new sponsers? So many questions!
@thisisspartacus
Ай бұрын
@@MegaJasonmiller I’ll tell you what, I agree it would be better use of her time than going on these podcasts with her friends that have no views (although if I had to guess they asked and she’s probably doing them a favor).
@pizzaerreday7230
Ай бұрын
You know I ran to this video after seeing the title 😅
@pbfishing5153
Ай бұрын
“A humble manipulation of circumstance” lmao
@antoinefakhr8542
Ай бұрын
Wtf is a Humble manipulation…
@imperfectstillworthit
Ай бұрын
3:49 the way she's standing there couldn't disagree more with what she's saying😂 Man she's pissed!
@mikebee6530
Ай бұрын
Remember the movie "Dude Where's My Car?" ? Where he's at the drive thru and the lady keeps asking "Annnddd thennn???" "NO and then!" 😂 that's all I could picture with her "Is that all you have to say to me?" Lol
@ljdecker546
Ай бұрын
Bro you're whispering in this video like Dani is going to come around the corner at any moment.
@kevinmairs1047
Ай бұрын
Her Body language says it all! That’s an angry girl 😂
@dinosr13
Ай бұрын
Certainly understand her response to you. Wish she was more receptive to a conversation. Definitely respect both of you. You for approaching her in a mature and honest manner and her for allowing some window of communication although she was reasonably defensive. Thanks for being a good dude Hiller and thanks Dani for giving him a shot 🤷🏻♂️😜😂
@thisisspartacus
Ай бұрын
Hiller in the hotel room whispering because Alexis is like stop making Dani Speegle videos you’re clearly obsessed.
@TORALOLA
Ай бұрын
Great one! Right on point ! 😂
@todds3944
Ай бұрын
He wasn't in a hotel room. lol
@77hoolie
Ай бұрын
She handled that so well. Don’t spend time with people who don’t like you, or are trying to bring you down. Full props to Andrew for going up to her, face to face - so 👏 too both of you. BUT she’s the boss / winner of this, and will always be the winner of this - as long as she never engages with you again.
@mitchellirvin5889
Ай бұрын
"Don’t spend time with people who don’t like you, or are trying to bring you down" - good advice, if that's actually true of the people you're referring to. bad advice if it means "never listen to criticism or engage with dissenting opinions" "as long as she never engages with you again" - refusing to engage in conversations with people who disagree with and/or criticize (in good faith) you is bad advice. that kind of thinking is how our society has gotten so polarized in the first place.
@MrKaswimfly9
Ай бұрын
So let me get this straight. You guy's aren't going to be friends. 😂
@WestonDanger
Ай бұрын
The very last thing you said is perfect. When it comes to movement quality, this is exactly what i would say if i were her "dude i feel like I'm hitting the movement properly and the judge isn't saying 'no rep'. I see your point in the videos but I'm telling you, when I'm doing these moves in comp, it feels right. I haven't trained this long to get to this level with a mastermind strategy of shaving a few degrees off my a bunch of movements and hoping that i make it to the top of the game without any judges saying 'no rep'". I bet that is honestly a true statement but that would mean she would have to agree to some extent that she's doing it wrong, and idk if she has that 'ownership' quality in her character, but idk maybe she does. If you really feel like you are doing the moves right and there isn't 'no rep' called, then what are you gonna do besides keep trying, you know?
@bs431980
Ай бұрын
Damn she looks better in person than her IG clips 😂 sorry that’s all I took from this. Good work Hiller
@oliviashafer2229
Ай бұрын
I know I was just like - daaaang girl
@colin6192
Ай бұрын
Just because you are “all about the views” doesn’t mean people have to like it. Clickbait titles and thumbnails deserve as much criticism as the content of the video themselves. If you made videos about me with clickbait titles, I wouldn’t sit and listen to what you have to say. I wouldn’t have time for you. You are also guilty by association by being on livestreams where there are several instances where your buddies talk trash about Dani. You sit there and don’t correct them, therefore guilty by association.
@shuey134
Ай бұрын
Thank god you have Alexis because you’re terrible at picking up chicks. 😂
@Weareallimperfect
Ай бұрын
Someone told me there are hormone disruptors in plastic food packaging and cleaning products but man she has more testosterone than Goggins.
@hawaiielite
Ай бұрын
Stalker creep vibes 😬.
@the_bruce_wayne
Ай бұрын
The conversation we’ve all been waiting for!!!
@ClockCutter
Ай бұрын
12:09 reminded me how much I miss Bryce. Come on, Bryce. Jump in the fray. Say something.
@sunreddy85
Ай бұрын
She’s not going to give you the closure you so desperately want. She’s going to let you fester and that’s how she’s winning.
@gregcurry4784
Ай бұрын
Found Speegles burner 😂
@sunreddy85
Ай бұрын
@@gregcurry4784 ha ha wish I looked like her. I am not hating on Hiller. He can do whatever he wants but so can she. She’s not going to play by his rules.
@gregcurry4784
Ай бұрын
@@sunreddy85 you just sound bitter 🤷♂️
@sunreddy85
Ай бұрын
@@gregcurry4784 👍🏽
@asphethl
Ай бұрын
I also would’ve liked to replay conversations with girls that didn’t pan out well and I didn’t get to say what I wanted to say…
@HuddyG123
Ай бұрын
Props to Hiller for trying to talk to Dani and props to Dani for politely refusing. I think that's about as civil as that interaction could have gone. And Hiller sees it from her POV so he can't hold it against her for not wanting to talk. In her defense, the dude has made quite a number of videos on her and this is their first time meeting face to face. I wouldn't want to talk to him either.. 😂 But it get his approach. If were going to be around each other all weekend lets break the ice, say what you want to say to me or about me now. But she didn't take that opportunity so she cant say he never said a word to he in her face because she politely refused which again is 100% fair!
@avera9636
Ай бұрын
Hiller, I have no problem with anything you have ever said about Speegle. You state truth when you say her response was not unexpected . . . but, seem to have a hard time accepting her lack of interest in interacting with you. Listen brother, you cannot make an omelette without breaking some eggs . . . and you are in the omelette-making business. Kudos to you for walking up to Speegle and wanting to talk, but you need to accept you broke that egg in making a Speegle omelette. Let it go.
@pulkpuller
Ай бұрын
This is the first interaction they have ever actually had. Seems like she was postering for the couple of ladies around her. It’s definitely her right to not talk to him , and it’s definitely his right to push back verbally when she was trying to be cleaver.
@emmaliz5484
Ай бұрын
@@pulkpullerI agree with you. She was posturing and aware it was going to end up on the internet so she stuck to her persona.
@emmaliz5484
Ай бұрын
Maybe if an interaction like this happened in a closed to the public athlete area it might have been easier to have a slightly better interaction. It’s also possible if I try to see her side that she thought Hiller might be trying to set up a ‘gotcha moment’
@pulkpuller
Ай бұрын
@@emmaliz5484 I would show her more empathy if she didn’t trash the way she makes a living and posts provocative content while claiming sex appeal and looks don’t matter…
@pulkpuller
Ай бұрын
@@emmaliz5484 I appreciate her image …she would have been badass if she would have went into an Interview on the spot and called him out on his stuff
love when you see 2 people with the same NO BS Attitude with differing opinions or experiences with one another cross paths
@runnerap22
Ай бұрын
Great observation
@crossfunctionalfitness
Ай бұрын
If she was smart she'd invite you to do a fly on the wall documentary which would explode. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, and all that.
@marlows47
Ай бұрын
If she was smart? Why does she need to win this niche part of the community over? She has like three times the combined following of all of this crew on social media. She has more public leverage so why does she need to win a small percent (of some that I'd bet follow her anyway) of people that might view her in a way she doesn't like? She's already winning the popularity contest. She doesn't care if it's your friends she's winning over and she doesn't need to care.
@crossfunctionalfitness
Ай бұрын
@@marlows47 there's followers and there's followers who care enough to matter. They aren't necessarily the same thing.
@marlows47
Ай бұрын
@@crossfunctionalfitness she uses her Instagram as a business, no different to Brooke Wells. They seem to be rolling in sponsors, so is that a metric of success? It doesn't have to be what you absolutely define as YOUR metric. If they pay for things in their life, success? Your opinion doesn't matter to them if they have sponsors that allow them to do what they want in life. So winning you, specifically, over isn't their goal. You're niche to them. A niche with someone that's critical of their bodies and how they decide to live their lives and market. Brooke Wells the marketer and Brooke Wells the person could be very different but I'd personally be cautious of what products she markets because it's highest bidder. But CrossFit isn't super lucrative so I get it.
@mark.patrick
Ай бұрын
I love how you acknowledge that you use Dani to get yourself views and make money at her expense and then expect that she would want to chat with you at all 🧐
@ABCDenham26
Ай бұрын
I’ve been wondering hood the conversation went sent you posted the clip on your IG. Hats off to you for extending the olive branch, you gave it an honest try
@getjames
Ай бұрын
Algo to the moon 🌚
@jeremyjuangco9385
Ай бұрын
This crossover was epic
@greg_lifts
Ай бұрын
I just wanna say I love your content. I can’t believe these athletes get so offended. There is no bad press Dani said it herself. You are getting her more exposure and therefore signing her paychecks. She should’ve said thank you 😊
@basicfamily2332
Ай бұрын
I was really hoping she would be cool with you and we would get an awesome conversation, man that was dissapointing
@mattpeters6224
Ай бұрын
Her body language is not that of a Coward. I don't particularly like Dani or dislike Dani, but this raised my respect level for her. She looked like she was pretty sure she could take your a$$.
@tinkthestrange
Ай бұрын
So women can only be sniveling cowards or agressive? Internet commentary should never devolve into physical altercations.
@mattpeters6224
Ай бұрын
@@tinkthestrangeLove the fact that you read all of your insecurities into my comments. I didn’t say or imply ANYTHING that you said. I shared my observations, the truth.
@katiestreet5156
Ай бұрын
I doubt she even knew what the main thing was tbh and just wanted to see you stew
@katefoster9743
Ай бұрын
She owes you nothing. Respect to her for not unloading on you in public which let’s admit you were secretly hoping would happen because then you would have had a better viral clip to post 🤷🏻♀️
@surf183
Ай бұрын
During the handshake who shook whos arm? 😅
@ramblr5900
Ай бұрын
This is why you dont pick up girls at the gym.
@ErikDoesStuff1711
Ай бұрын
This must be about the ‘realest’ Speegs has ever been, and for that - fair play. It woulda been far more disingenuous of her to come across all nice and friendly or whatever. She hates Hiller, Hiller doesn’t particularly like her either. And that’s just fine.
@sebastiannai4381
Ай бұрын
Speegle handled you like a boss, Hiller. Her father would be proud!
@oldgrizz8720
Ай бұрын
I begin each day saying thanks to the Tao, the Universe, my body, my Honored Ancestors, Esteemed Teachers including my enemies who have added to my growth and helped me become who I am. I learned a long time ago that those who seem to be my enemies often reveal my weaknesses and show me the path to strength. Keep friends close and enemies closer. There is much to be learned through embracing one's opposition. I can only what could be gained from a genuine conversation between you and Dani. Such an honest dialogue could be productive for both of you and the community. I hope you find a way to make it happen.
@slowsmooth3440
Ай бұрын
Health Habits, yes! I am with you 100
@ladydevil95
Ай бұрын
Her body language says it all. If I had walked up on that, I’d have known to just turn and walk away. I mean do you blame her? It’s not like whispering behind her back and a few people know. It’s to thousands of people who then pass judgement and criticism based off of what you said. Are you right about some of the things you say? Yes! However just because you’re right doesn’t mean you should say it. Props for being man enough to come from behind the keyboard and the camera and try to talk it out, but I don’t think you’ll be having anymore convos with her.
@FonDaul
Ай бұрын
In his next video, we will hear how Speegle will win the CrossFit Games …
@jerseyjustin26
Ай бұрын
Who needs Netflix 🍿
@xikmatillamusrmonov1968
Ай бұрын
Man.uzb.dani.sevglim❤❤❤❤❤
@JuanaLove6931
Ай бұрын
No one said she has to talk to you but if she have any principles, she would be open to it. We see who took the high road. I didn't know she was such a mean girl. Lost my respect. No fake there...
@bogalan220
Ай бұрын
Yes same… I’m new to the CF space & between her & her friend Mitchell Hooper talking trash about long time CrossFit folks for bringing up truths. Who these people really are shows. Props to Hiller for trying to understand & bridge a gap. Def. Know who I’m not supporting after seeing this.
@TheOriginalSteveMiller
Ай бұрын
@megan6867
Ай бұрын
Oh well... 😂
@ManOfEthnicity
Ай бұрын
Chase Ingraham is just the best lol
@Behrnahrd
Ай бұрын
She was expecting you to apologize, since you didn't...
@poundcake88
Ай бұрын
If 5 vids on an athlete are about not meeting the standard, then the athlete should look at those and work on hitting the standard. Record and review, fix and repeat.
@tonydecuba
Ай бұрын
I was NOT expecting that title 😂
@thelyingscotsman7993
8 күн бұрын
Leave her alone buddy,stalker.
@1462JWOOD
Ай бұрын
Bro she’s even hotter in confrontation mode !!!!!! Omg !!!!!
@jlynnyay
Ай бұрын
Best thing about this video is 100% Whispering. Amazing accomplishment, is it really a Hiller video without huffing, loud rants and movie clips ❤❤ nice hiller !
@peterthorne2593
Ай бұрын
Hiller in videos about Dani: “ 🤬🤯🤨😑 “ Hiller in Person with Dani: 🫣😳 👀 😶 “ incredible to watch how emasculated you got with her saying barely anything 🤣
@GoodWillRacing
Ай бұрын
Wow she legitimately hates you 😂😂😂
@evega420
Ай бұрын
Good on you to try and smooth things over.
@willgazlay5711
Ай бұрын
She wanted you to apologize for…something lol Honestly, I would have approached it saying, “Hey my name is Andrew Hiller. I understand that there may be some bad blood between us based on some of my content, but I’d love the opportunity to sit down and chat with you at some point this weekend and hear your side of things.”
@ThePirateburke86
Ай бұрын
She doesn’t have the emotional maturity to actually have a conversation with you
@ClockCutter
Ай бұрын
I love Dani's tan. Hats off.
@jdbaiocco1
Ай бұрын
Yep. Her "tan" is amazing.
@ClockCutter
Ай бұрын
@@jdbaiocco1 You don't think that's real?
@jdbaiocco1
Ай бұрын
@@ClockCutter I think it’s ALL real. :)
@jdbaiocco1
Ай бұрын
@@ClockCutter I just spell tan “a s s”
@loganhetzner6259
Ай бұрын
Man I don’t think you’re ever gonna crack Dani’s ego to get the closure you’re looking for lol
@pixielale-klasicki3679
Ай бұрын
watch her blame poor performance on the fact that she was "hounded" by you in the week. im sure you won't but she'll pull the I had to avoid him card
@katefoster9743
Ай бұрын
@@pixielale-klasicki3679 great call considering she wasn’t competing 🤦🏼♀️
@pixielale-klasicki3679
Ай бұрын
@@katefoster9743 oh my bad 😂 I haven’t been paying attention
@YonClark
Ай бұрын
Props
@mikelowry153
Ай бұрын
Don‘t try and “run” into her again man lol. You had your chance. Let it go before she brings you up on charges😆
@bradycastillo3917
Ай бұрын
C’mon man, I have college football to watch but here I am watching this video. Dani could have been such a likable athlete in CrossFit but she just shoots herself in the foot every time she talks
@Skiddins
Ай бұрын
...And everytime we see her workout standards.
@Louwhu22
Ай бұрын
Yep, that part
@elizabethbutler9423
Ай бұрын
She doesn’t want to talk to you so leave her alone. She couldn’t have made it clearer and I don’t blame her.
@rej4166
Ай бұрын
So, what are you actually saying?
@MikeJones.
Ай бұрын
💪🏼🙏🏼💪🏼☝🏼🇺🇸
@jdbaiocco1
Ай бұрын
This feels like a "meet cute".
@hillerfit
Ай бұрын
Idk what this is but I like it
@jdbaiocco1
Ай бұрын
@@hillerfit "Frequently, the meet cute leads to a humorous clash of personalities or of beliefs, embarrassing situations, or comical misunderstandings that further drive the plot."
@houseglendale1914
Ай бұрын
@@hillerfitmeet cutes happen in cheesy movies like Hallmark movies. For example, our hero female lead walks out of a coffee shop and spills her drink on a handsome man walking by and the rest of the movie is them two continually running into each other until they finally get together.
@fredflintstone9697
Ай бұрын
Who cares? She entered the public forum, if you want the media to only highlight your positives, you’re going to end up one bitter lady. She was offered an opportunity to speak up and make some positive waves, instead she chose the ‘poor me’ option. No worries, there’s lots more athletes out there…
@griffinpair9953
Ай бұрын
what? we can't hear you.
@aaronschiebel9366
Ай бұрын
She’s acts like an entitled snob. You talk about her by her name. She doesn’t have the guts to talk about you by name but eludes to you and then expects you to bow down and apologize. Childish on her part.
@Wanderlustkiddo805
Ай бұрын
Totally snobby! Entitled and maybe I’ll change my opinion if she changes her ways 🤷🏻♀️
@cameronmitchell3290
Ай бұрын
You are such a troll boss The only reason any of you have anything to say about CF is because you are now good enough. 100%
@JonnyB589G
Ай бұрын
Toilet talk?
@JaloliddinMamatqulov-m2k
Ай бұрын
Dani.sani.sevaman.man.uzbik.javobini.kutaman
@benjaminyandle9017
26 күн бұрын
Hiller feels bad about Dani and makes a video to justify it.. yikesssss
@hoodlum64
Ай бұрын
Andrew, you're a class act for wanting to talk to her. Speegle is a petulant child that can't handle criticism.
@lawrenceforsley3411
Ай бұрын
Um… you actually have this backwards
@Roamin.withElle
Ай бұрын
@@lawrenceforsley3411 um.. no he's correct. she can't handle criticism so she acts like a child
@MariamOsman1
Ай бұрын
There's criticism.... And then there's being a jerk for clicks #justsaying
@dannyl3858
Ай бұрын
Dani Smeagol is super annoying
@ChetLeeKowalski
Ай бұрын
Worth the wait
@slowsmooth3440
Ай бұрын
Missed the "professionalism, being a professional", against the "minimum/maximum" weight requirement for peak performance where you showed images of Dani; which you aren't alone on. I am sure tht stung. She cuts corners and doesn't want the liability if her actions. Evidently. Same as the rest of the sheeple. "HWPO/Pay The Man." Success is the best revenge, use that shit for fuel. If she really truly wanted to keep her name in your mouth, set up a podcast with you and debate with you from her perspective. Win/Win! I'd watch that. she can't, her brand/image would suffer disonance. Finally; She is a public figure, this is the territory, bittersweet, as all of life.
@djsgolfer714
Ай бұрын
Love your integrity!
@leilarashid2413
Ай бұрын
Haha Hiller you’re great but she owned you lol. You’re TONE seems a lot different now than it did in the 12 vids you made about her
@leilarashid2413
Ай бұрын
And respect for going up to her but you should have expected her reaction. Good for her
@pulkpuller
Ай бұрын
She had a slight mic drop at best….if the two ladies came over would she have postured? She needs to be called out for her blatant contradictions….he should have not tried to be low key and went for her ….ah right he can’t being a man towards a women
@tommypayne6821
Ай бұрын
Nah, she didn't engage
@hillerfit
Ай бұрын
It’s because everyone is sleeping. I said that right away 🤙
@hillerfit
Ай бұрын
@@leilarashid2413also yes! Good for her
@cheeks7050
Ай бұрын
Speegle on dem roids
@JeffersonCreel
Ай бұрын
Keep Exposing TRUTH
@steveprout9875
Ай бұрын
You get what you deserve. You don’t deserve her time! If you hang with Sevan it speaks volumes about your lack of character
@lalampen
Ай бұрын
🦇
@passleycraig
Ай бұрын
god, Dani is beautiful ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@jamescarr8140
Ай бұрын
Just commenting to show support
@steveprout9875
Ай бұрын
Sevan is nothing but a little weasel but he does have his own emoji 🥸
@LongNeckLives
Ай бұрын
Opinions aside, i respect you for starting an in person conversation with someone outside of the online presence thst been cultivated. Its easy to edit videos to fit a narrative, but an in person conversation is not going to fit in Premier Pro
@TORALOLA
Ай бұрын
Hi Mr Hiller, you were a bit defensive for her expected aggressiveness given your videos of her. She dismissed you, hurts a bit since you "wanted to make peace" but maybe you could approaxh her once the comperition? is over to try again, this time a bit more casual and not so defensive. She had her win, if she's smart she'll "give you a chance"... Good luck, you're one hell of a character! :))
@marlows47
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Movement Standards videos are relevant. Other videos are opinionated and you're allowed your opinion. But eventually maybe you don't REQUIRE to give your opinion on your forum. But maybe you do. My issue is this, based on what you said on your recent Instagram post about "what you would say to someone's face" would you say these things to her face? Would you (not the person you defended) say these things about her body to her face? Maybe you would. I think given how much you said, youre maybe oblivious to what youve done and youre not really prepared to do so. The final point would be this: someone's legacy or definition in the public space as an influencer, artist, or athlete doesn't define who they are personally. Not every famous person is who they portray and that's OK. They don't owe anyone anything. No one has to be a role model, that's not their job. Their job is to perform. Michael Jordan is known to be a shit person but great athlete. LeBron James has constantly funneled money to under privileged. Keanu Reaves has story after story about being a good dude. Not every celebrity has that. It's OK. Publicly and privately they can be different. It's ok. You're defining someone and if the whole world said Andrew Hiller is a shit bag person, you wouldn't like it. You admitted you didn't like how Dani made you feel when she walked off. Point proven.
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