Before a person answers the question about the probability of the existence of "God", the term "God" must be defined.
@88marome
5 жыл бұрын
We don't usually have to do that with things that *do* exist so I think that's a big hint that gods to not exist.
@maxnullifidian
5 жыл бұрын
The word "God" is a sound some people make when they mean "I don't know..." or "I wish..."
@maxnullifidian
5 жыл бұрын
"The atheist does not say, "There is no God", but he says, "I know not what you mean by God"; the word God is to me a sound conveying no clear or distinct affirmation." - Charles Bradlaugh
@kjustkses
5 жыл бұрын
The creator who created with a purpose.
@kjustkses
5 жыл бұрын
R Hopzing That was just a definition of god. But if you want my opinion on why the biblical creation account is better than the others, read the book by Andrew Parker who is not a theist. The Bible got the order of creation right.
@bms77
4 жыл бұрын
Yea science isn’t claiming that there is NO god, it just doesn’t point to anything showing that there IS a god. Science doesn’t claim either proposition but someone making the positive claim should be able to demonstrate that claim. Such an easy concept
@franklinbarrett4630
4 жыл бұрын
bdizz77 I would be happy to shut up about the nonexistence of gods. So would Hovend and Ham and WLC and the Pope shut up as well?
@soccerlife5041
3 жыл бұрын
I m not making a scientific claim for Existence of god . So I m an agnostic thiest. So u can’t say I have a burden of proof. I believe it takes more faith to believe in non existence of God than believing in his existence. In such a case the burden of proof is on both parties. So if an atheist can’t come up with any logical arguments it shows lack of logic and reason in believing that there is no God.
@racoon251
3 жыл бұрын
cringe
@hrothgr52
3 жыл бұрын
@@soccerlife5041 That makes it worse if you don't have a scientific claim and still claim god exists you do still need evidence and burden of proof is absolutely on you. You are making a extreme claim and atheism isn't a belief system it's just people who lack belief of god and that's it. I'm not trying to prove anything to you. That doesn't mean we shouldn't have arguments but the idea that burden of proof is on both parties is ridiculous.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
Judgement Day for the non-Christian will be the worst experience imaginable. You will be tried and found guilty of crimes such as lying, stealing, using God’s name in vain, lusting, disrespecting parents etc Your life will be played back to you and ALL your sins revealed. Many will run to their good works to save them like charitable deeds, Fasting, being kind to others; but that won’t help. If you break man’s law you go to jail, If you break Gods law you go to Hell. But Jesus came and paid your penalty on the cross If you only Repent and Believe in Jesus than God can grant you forgiveness of sins and let you into Heaven because of JESUS LOVE.
@frankkockritz5441
2 жыл бұрын
There is simply no argument for God that stands on its own in anyway, whatsoever. When we die, we simply cease to exist. This outcome follows the Occam’s Razor principal. It aligns with everything we know of physics, the second law of thermodynamics and so on. Even if we live in a simulation, the programmer is pretty heartless and cruel
@dimbulb23
Жыл бұрын
Until some demonstrates a god is real, this creature isn't a candidate answer to any question. Mighty Mouse Did It ! doesn't work either.
@Raiddd__
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean "stand on its own in anyway"? Is it allowed to be a deductive argument? Have premises? Maybe could it be an inference to the best explanation of something? Could it be a logical argument? What exactly would count as "stands on its own in anyway"? Try not to be sarcastic, im genuinley asking. Then, please give me a couple examples of other arguments for belief systems (perhaps whatever belief system you hold? as everyone holds one) that meet those specific criteria for "standing on its own in anyway". Thank you in advance.
@StuartRowlands-gm4qr
4 ай бұрын
@dimbulb23 Micky Mouse didn't do it, Yaweh did! This was after he got promoted to God of all creation (through an amalgamation with Elohim and Baal) after the role of Yaweh as the God of the mountainside and of the desert storm. Yaweh the Eternal God is approximately three thousand years old, and Micky Mouse is only approximately one century old! A 3000 year old Eternal God does sound like an oxymoron, but with (enough) faith, anything can be said to exist!
@billmcdonald4335
4 жыл бұрын
As succinctly as I can put it: "I ain't buyin' what the theists are sellin'." That's atheism. No more, no less.
@prathamkumar5224
4 жыл бұрын
Visa versa can be said for religious people
@MathiasBacher
4 жыл бұрын
@@prathamkumar5224 Could you explain that?
@MathiasBacher
4 жыл бұрын
@Frances Snowflake I got that but I don't understand how that would be true. Atheists aren't selling anything, we are at most warning people not to buy the religious nonsense.
@MathiasBacher
4 жыл бұрын
@Frances Snowflake Than you didn't understand Atheism. It simply means not being theistic. You can of course try to spread Atheism but that still doesn't make it a religion or something to sell because there isn't anything to sell in the first place.
@MathiasBacher
4 жыл бұрын
@Frances Snowflake Read closely, I didn't mix up the two words. Religions are spreading theism, each religion another form of theism. But if you spread atheism you can't call that a religion because there are no ideologies and no crazy ideas behind it, just a rejection of theism and the ideologies coming out of it.
@TerryUniGeezerPeterson
7 жыл бұрын
If you disobey any of God's commandments, he will send you to hell to burn in agony for all eternity... but he loves you. (Paraphrased from George Carlin).
@achooothanks
7 жыл бұрын
Except that that is Christianity in a nutshell. Eternal fire for those on the left, eternal singing for those on the right.
@guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248
6 жыл бұрын
@ Seth Harvill Depends which religion you are following...example: Catholics you go to hell with a "mortal sin" on your concience when you die...Lutheran's not so much.
@thedriza297
6 жыл бұрын
Terry Peterson OMG Carlin's bit on the big bad god goes down as one of the funniest comedy skits I've ever heard.
@pacopiedad6182
6 жыл бұрын
Way to generalize and attack an idea without actually doing the research bud. The Catholic teaching on this makes a lot of sense, as follows in a nutshell : Free will was given to us by God - to choose to Love or otherwise. God doesn’t impose on our free will. Without having goodness, how can one enjoy union with an all-good God? Hell is a state of unrepentant separation from God - the absence of God. = We send ourselves to hell, and no matter how much God Loves us, He can’t impose on our free will
@musikali1
6 жыл бұрын
He loves you.... and he needs money. You left out the best part
@christophermallett8166
4 жыл бұрын
I recently saw a video where a guy (arguing on behalf of Islam) said that "if as a non believer you don't know the answer, then 'I don't know' is good enough, don't pretend to know the answer"... I'm not sure if he is aware just how ironic that statement actually is.
@rakeshkrishnan6571
2 жыл бұрын
Islam = the most ironic, contradictory and infantile religion ever.
@James-ll3jb
5 ай бұрын
Cuz it aint...
@anubhavsingh8654
3 ай бұрын
@@James-ll3jbGreat point !!
@George4943
8 жыл бұрын
Argument for atheism: It appears to be the case. Truth matters.
@TeslaNick2
8 жыл бұрын
Yep. It really is that simple. Brilliant comment.
@joshheter1517
7 жыл бұрын
Many things appear to to be the case that turn out to be false.
@Tenthplanetjj86
6 жыл бұрын
Cheshire Tiger said “truth is a level of certitude unreachable by limited beings” What kind of strange definition of truth is this? Can you find a dictionary or a philosophical journal that explains it further? I suspect it stems from this “limited being” nonsense. It seems to imply there is such a thing as an “unlimited being”. Anyways, I think one thing needs to be cleared up. Certainty is a psychological brain state, it deals with how strong a conviction you have about a proposition. It tells you absolutely nothing about whether or not the proposition is actually true. As a matter of fact; often times certainty is a good indicator you have not put enough thought into it. Truth is a correspondence relationship between propositions and states of affairs. When a proposition accurately maps on to or ‘corresponds’ with facts and/or what happens to be the case we call that ‘true’. It’s called correspondence theory of truth. It has some flaws but it’s clear some version of it must be true. It’s as simple as that, regardless of omniscience.
@Tenthplanetjj86
6 жыл бұрын
Cheshire Tiger, Do you always contradict yourself this much? First you said “truth is a level of certitude”. And the definition of certitude is as follows: “absolute certainty or conviction that something is the case.” But when I explained that ones own internal degree of belief has no bearing on the truth of a proposition you changed to “truth is an absolute. it’s not a metric of conviction”. At least you’re learning.
@lexyasimplename1479
4 жыл бұрын
False truth, believed only by foolish individuals who have been blinded to what is real. You want facts? I'll give you facts. God is real. Discard your denial and see the truth for what it is
@tsvibenschar4135
4 жыл бұрын
lol why don't they just sit in the same row, dan looks super uncomfortable
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
Judgement Day for the non-Christian will be the worst experience imaginable. You will be tried and found guilty of crimes such as lying, stealing, using God’s name in vain, lusting, disrespecting parents etc Your life will be played back to you and ALL your sins revealed. Many will run to their good works to save them like charitable deeds, Fasting, being kind to others; but that won’t help. If you break man’s law you go to jail, If you break Gods law you go to Hell. But Jesus came and paid your penalty on the cross If you only Repent and Believe in Jesus than God can grant you forgiveness of sins and let you into Heaven because of JESUS LOVE.
@CesarClouds
2 жыл бұрын
They're talking about the generic and vague "god" of the philosophers (sloppy). As for _specific_ ones, like Zeus, Enki, or Yahweh, well, they unequivocally do not exist.
@thedriza297
6 жыл бұрын
God is an imaginary friend for adults
@TheBrunarr
5 жыл бұрын
What a wise and in-depth view of a multi-millenia-old concept...
@newestaddition5234
5 жыл бұрын
TheDriza OK,drizzle. you and others like you say, God is an imaginary friend for adults, then why does all of hell, the demons, the devil's,satan himself, why do they believe in God.they believe to the point that at the name of Jesus, they tremble in submission to the name.
@stephenlawrence4903
4 жыл бұрын
@@newestaddition5234 Those were imaginary foes of God and an imaginary Son of God. I just don't get why grown ups can't see that.
@philscott3759
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrunarr Thinking light came out of your eyes and many other incorrect guesses at how things work were millennium spanning ideas.
@topologyrob
2 жыл бұрын
The self is imaginary.
@philosophicaljay3449
8 жыл бұрын
I love Daniel Dennett, but I think that he could have done better here. There are other good arguments for a godless universe. He is right that the burden of proof is on the theist, but I think that any theist that accepts the concept of faith will have a messed up view of the burden of proof, leaving to people either having to provide reasons to accept the godless hypothesis or to convince people of faith to accept skepticism instead.
@tofu_golem
8 жыл бұрын
+Advancements of Science Society If their idea of burden of proof is wrong, then their idea of burden of proof is wrong. If their notion of burden of proof is valid, then ALL non-falsifiable claims automatically become true, including any non-falsifiable claims I make up in the future. Their notion of burden of proof is simply untenable, and another sign of their desperation.
@ArenaHopeful
6 жыл бұрын
To be fair theists don’t really make non-falsifiable claims.
@polite_as_fuck
6 жыл бұрын
ArenaHopeful - With all due respect, that is false. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve encountered theists making unfalsifiable claims, such as, “Living a moral life would be impossible without god.” Or, what about the claims of life after death? Not to mention, I just had an interaction with a theist earlier today, who claimed that the scientific evidence that refutes the Bible is planted by Satan to deceive us and lead us astray from god. It’s almost certainly bullshit, but how could you legitimately test the veracity of that claim?
@polite_as_fuck
6 жыл бұрын
Neil Mcintosh - LOL touché. My rebuttal was brief. Not much you can really say to that without being a dick lol.
@ForOrAgainstUs
4 жыл бұрын
I think the burden of proof should be on the theist for why you should believe in god but not why the theist believes in god.
@Williamtipq
3 жыл бұрын
I was expecting something more complex or original. So basic, heard all this a million times.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
We all agree evil exists like rape, murders, genocides, Abusing innocent Children etc. If evil exists, then good must exist. For good to exist there must be morals and freewill where one is able to choose right over wrong. For Morals to exist there must be a moral giver. GOD
@jessewallace12able
7 жыл бұрын
I love the 'incomprehensible spirit of goodness' idea.
@blackdogsoares
4 жыл бұрын
Best line ever!
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
Judgement Day for the non-Christian will be the worst experience imaginable. You will be tried and found guilty of crimes such as lying, stealing, using God’s name in vain, lusting, disrespecting parents etc Your life will be played back to you and ALL your sins revealed. Many will run to their good works to save them like charitable deeds, Fasting, being kind to others; but that won’t help. If you break man’s law you go to jail, If you break Gods law you go to Hell. But Jesus came and paid your penalty on the cross If you only Repent and Believe in Jesus than God can grant you forgiveness of sins and let you into Heaven because of JESUS LOVE.
@djayjp
2 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't believe in something incomprehensible lol.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
@James Henry Smith kzitem.info/news/bejne/rGx80qxuhYCbbJg - I’d love to know your thoughts on this
@sunset2.00
2 жыл бұрын
The universe from dense chaos to brimming with life and beauty for one who looks and poler opposite as well. "Incomprehensible spirit of great wisdom"to be more apt
@johnmyra4502
3 жыл бұрын
Saying that you don't BELIEVE that God exists is different that saying God doesn't exist as a fact. If you just say the you don't BELIEVE God exists, you need no evidence for that. If you say, as a fact, that God doesn't exist, then the burden of proof is on you.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
exactly
@spuriusscapula4829
2 жыл бұрын
Do unicorns exist?
@dominicdiorio
4 жыл бұрын
The new atheist movement would be taken a lot more seriously or reverence by theists if they were all like Dan. Smart, yet calm and collected.
@zaxbitterzen2178
2 жыл бұрын
Its always been hard to remain calm when there are so many militant religious practitioners, leaders, and speakers all over the world.
@allebasaiadartse3951
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah... Daniel Dennet, Richard Dawkins, and Michio Kaku are THE calmest atheist out there, haha! I even used to fell asleep with their talks in the background when I was younger :)
@dimbulb23
Жыл бұрын
Atheism is doing fine without reverence. It only requires 10% of the skepticism that we all use when buying a used car.... and you can see the car and kick the tires.
@DavidFraser007
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean by reverence, but theists do take atheists very seriously, they are getting really upset and do a lot of talking about atheism.
@qake2021
3 жыл бұрын
😱No god...😭😭😭😭. If there's god,God, why didn't God save people from Covid-19? 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
Kids dying of cancer, world hunger etc This is because we live in a fallen world full of sin. Judgement Day for the non-Christian will be the worst experience imaginable. You will be tried and found guilty of crimes such as lying, stealing, using God’s name in vain, lusting, disrespecting parents etc Your life will be played back to you and ALL your sins revealed. Many will run to their good works to save them like charitable deeds, Fasting, being kind to others; but that won’t help. If you break man’s law you go to jail, If you break Gods law you go to Hell. But Jesus came and paid your penalty on the cross If you only Repent and Believe in Jesus than God can grant you forgiveness of sins and let you into Heaven because of JESUS LOVE.
@jeil5676
3 күн бұрын
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Did you get this information from a divine being or some guy in a fancy hat?
@LeventeCzelnai
5 жыл бұрын
wao, I have known what santa thinks about all these things
@easylivingsherpa
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao!! Another God hater with santa syndrome.
@easylivingsherpa
4 жыл бұрын
@Stefano Portoghesi I asked for your evidence and proof that God does not exist not your opinion. Nice fail there lady.
@easylivingsherpa
4 жыл бұрын
@Stefano Portoghesi People worship anywhere. I do it while riding a motorcycle. You on the other hand have nothing but nihilism and only wish everyone was as miserable as yourself. Fat chance and a snowballs chance in hell thats ever gonna happen.
@easylivingsherpa
4 жыл бұрын
@Stefano Portoghesi A tiny virus didn't close down anything people did. And you still failed to give the evidence and proof that atheism is accurate and correct so cmon and convert us to your religion. We want to believe but just don't have your faith!
@easylivingsherpa
4 жыл бұрын
@Stefano Portoghesi Are you drunk again? Once more I never asked you for your opinion or philosophy. I simply asked you for the evidence and proof that atheism is accurate and correct. This is the third time now. You not only believe in the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything but you also believe that you come from a rock. How's that for atheistic science. Now astonish us by presenting that elusive proof that you claim to have. I don't care about your opinion or philosophy I want the science behind your religion.
@paulcouillard4993
2 ай бұрын
This is the best Closer-to-Truth video.
@MrSidney9
7 жыл бұрын
Atheism is the default position
@davewilliams5102
5 жыл бұрын
Not at all. We just want more proof.
@dakota9862
5 жыл бұрын
So is illiteracy, so what?
@Chrisplumbgas
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe when you a child, and think like a child, until you start thinking about why anything at all exists, then these arguments are weak.
@controllerbrain
3 жыл бұрын
You're born without belief.
@topologyrob
2 жыл бұрын
@@controllerbrain Knowing God isn't "belief" though
@mannanserviceholder
2 жыл бұрын
If there’s any God and he is the creator of everything then certainly we could say evil and all brutality and horrific cruelty part or brain- production of God
@gigisdad
8 жыл бұрын
The Kryptonite angle is an ingenious analogy.
@Drudenfusz
8 жыл бұрын
And worse it is wrong, Kryponite wasn't inveted by the creators of the comics, but later by a radio show to explain the absense of the actor who played Superman.
@gigisdad
8 жыл бұрын
+Drudenfusz That's completely irrelevant.
@codectified
5 жыл бұрын
It’s not though. Religion is about telling a certain story but what dennet fails to recognize is that no one can escape the telling of their own story. The problem of evil is not a real problem, the real problem is where morality comes from. Without an objective basis for one morality there is no objective basis for an argument against any morality. Hence, religion is a subjective morality wherein the primary subject is god and god’s omnipotence is the argument against any other morality.
@spockvskhan4561
5 жыл бұрын
@@Drudenfusz Spot on!
@spockvskhan4561
5 жыл бұрын
As a Superman purist he is DEAD WRONG about kryptonite. The voice over actor for Superman was sick or had to miss a few days of recording. The kryptonite was not inveneted as a counter balance for Superman's kryptonian strength. It was for a mudane reason that someone had a cold or could not come into work.
@themplar
4 жыл бұрын
Atheism doesnt need to disprove a god. Not a single theist ever has been able to justify the claim that one does. The complete lack of evidence warrants atheism. Also atheism doesnt need arguments.. its just a position of unbelieve due to the consistent failure of theism.
@AlmostEthical
2 жыл бұрын
I have not always been a huge fan of him, but Dan D was wonderful here. Our brains, inherited from our ancestors, are wired to believe that natural phenomena have humanlike agency and intent. So, while you can do nothing if a nearby volcano erupts, you can sacrifice virgins to a volcano deity. By attributing natural things (like the universe) with agency, we then have some control. We can petition a deity, make sacrifices, pray. If the sacrifices failed, we should have sacrificed more. God must be very angry this time! In this way, disproof is impossible. Many a former theist has struggled with internal doubts. They are told that the fault is theirs for not having enough faith, but the problem is that they are being fed stories rife with logical inconsistencies.
@easywind4044
4 жыл бұрын
Why would god create a backstory that is impossible to belief unless you you stop thinking about and question it. That is basically what faith is. When you have faith all inquiry stops. Furthermore, when this happens, there seems to be a diminishing of critical thinking in other aspects of inquiry that are only vaguely or not at all related to religion. For instance, nationalism and politics. It seems to me to foster a gullibility in many other areas. This seems dangerous to me.
@jackstacks3989
8 жыл бұрын
If god is all knowing does he know how to disprove his own existence.
@ArenaHopeful
6 жыл бұрын
I think you misunderstand omniscience and omnipotent as they are classically defined.
@newestaddition5234
5 жыл бұрын
Jack Stacks God does not have to prove anything.
@MrItachi18
5 жыл бұрын
If god's all-knowing does he know what it's like to suck a dick?
@je3113
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrItachi18 Yes
@dngentwiseman4026
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrItachi18 That automatically goes without saying, try him you may enjoy it.
@eaglegamers796
2 жыл бұрын
If there is god which god? Christian god, Muslim God, Hindu God, Buddhist God or spiritual God? Is Christian god only to be followed? What is the notion about other religion god?
@spuriusscapula4829
2 жыл бұрын
What even is "God"?
@andrewdobson813
4 жыл бұрын
The burden of proof argument! If you put forward a proposition either back it up or back down. 'Gog', how hilarious!
@NodeEntry
5 ай бұрын
RIP Danny
@seascape35
2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only person who thinks Daniel Dennett is really Santa Claus? What a great way for Santa to remain incognito for the rest of the year!
@dimbulb23
Жыл бұрын
If you think Dennett is really Santa, I would hope you're the only one. Grow up.
@seascape35
Жыл бұрын
@@dimbulb23 Please, get a sense of humor. Life is too short.
@misterclownface
10 ай бұрын
@@dimbulb23 It's more likely he is really Santa than an existence of this god.
@noseefood1943
4 жыл бұрын
Dennett looks like Charles Darwin
@51elephantchang
7 жыл бұрын
The best argument for atheism is the absence of evidence for theism.
@jordanw6918
7 жыл бұрын
peter nicholson absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
@MrSidney9
7 жыл бұрын
jordan w Disbelief in the absence of evidence is the Default position., Atheism is the default position.
@Tenthplanetjj86
6 жыл бұрын
jordan w “In some circumstances it can be safely assumed that if a certain event had occurred, evidence of it could be discovered by qualified investigators. In such circumstances it is perfectly reasonable to take the absence of proof of its occurrence as positive proof of its non-occurrence.” - Copi, Introduction to Logic (1953), p. 95
@leonherperger4055
6 жыл бұрын
jarrod, that would depend on what specific claim you are defending
@davewilliams5102
5 жыл бұрын
Great comment. Most on here will not understand your coment.
@BobbyCashGuitar
2 жыл бұрын
Look at Paramahansa Yogananda
@letsgoBrandon204
8 жыл бұрын
Arguments FOR Atheism is a strange way to put it. A positive argument for a negative.
@jeremymiller4189
8 жыл бұрын
"God doesn't exist" is just as much a proposition as "God exists".
@letsgoBrandon204
8 жыл бұрын
jeremy miller Atheism is not "God doesn't exist". It means not theism. It's a word like Asymmetic (not symmetric) or Asymptomatic (not symptomatic). An atheist might make the claim that a god doesn't exist, but that is not what atheism means.
@daan260
6 жыл бұрын
Pul5ar Atheism actually does mean that, because otherwise you would call it agnosticism and not atheism. Atheism means you believe there is no god, theism means you believe in god(s) and agnosticism means you don't/can't know or 50/50.
@am-en2qw
5 жыл бұрын
but there are positive atheistic positions. like: there is no god, there are no good arguments for the existence of god, etc. these are positive claims. you cant say all atheists hold a negative position, most of them dont even know the difference.
@daan260
5 жыл бұрын
@Troll Face you can also be an agnostic theist you fool
@MybridWonderful
2 жыл бұрын
These questions were done in an necessary vacuum. Polls have been taken of atheists. The most dramatic of which involves asking atheists how the universe was created, to which universally the response is "I don't know." The problem for theists and I don't know is that there is no more to discuss.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
Judgement Day for the non-Christian will be the worst experience imaginable. You will be tried and found guilty of crimes such as lying, stealing, using God’s name in vain, lusting, disrespecting parents etc Your life will be played back to you and ALL your sins revealed. Many will run to their good works to save them like charitable deeds, Fasting, being kind to others; but that won’t help. If you break man’s law you go to jail, If you break Gods law you go to Hell. But Jesus came and paid your penalty on the cross If you only Repent and Believe in Jesus than God can grant you forgiveness of sins and let you into Heaven because of JESUS LOVE.
@MybridWonderful
2 жыл бұрын
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Your god is the ultimate evil and the only moral action with respect to the Biblical God is the total and complete condemnation for being all out evil.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
@@MybridWonderful : Loving yes. But don't forget full of justice: You break mans laws you go to jail. You break God's laws you go to hell. But if you humble yourself and acknowledge that you are a sinner you Believe in Jesus and Repent; You will receive forgiveness of sins and when you die will go to Heaven. That is very loving!
@loganleatherman7647
Жыл бұрын
@There is none Good but God John 3:16, Rev 3:16 There’s is absolutely nothing “loving” about punishing anyone for eternity based off finite transgressions, especially not if the most egregious of those transgressions is not believing far-fetched suppositions about a Jewish guy from 2000 years ago
@danf7568
2 жыл бұрын
As a biologist and chemist the physical world became very dynamic and dramatic via the standing factual elements and history. It also stirs personal inward curiosity regarding my gift of life.
@juliemunro76
2 жыл бұрын
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@dimbulb23
Жыл бұрын
Given that 'Everything That Exists' is a complete mystery and we have little or no access to the data that would allow us to understand everything, why do you assume it's a gift? That major leap comes from a sense of entitlement rather than curiosity. What is your evidence that it's a gift?
@danf7568
Жыл бұрын
@@dimbulb23 My point was on my own personal reality. That inward personal journey concerning my own precious personal existence was the intended focus on MY comment.
@dougtaylor2523
2 жыл бұрын
Not on any particular side, but it seems a weak argument against the idea of God when you ask questions like "Why would a 'good' God allow such horrible suffering". That's not God. That's a "Good" God. You're muddying the waters when you change it by adding "good" to God. And that's not nitpicky, word policing, it fundamentally changes what you're talking about. The answer to "why would a a good God allow so much suffering?" would be that he wouldn't, so I would agree, that "good" God doesn't exist. Not "God doesn't exist". Different God. My point is that shallow arguments like this are no more persuasive than the person who argues for God by talking about faith. Hopefully that made sense. Great videos as usual.
@dimbulb23
Жыл бұрын
You must be one of the rare human beings who hasn't heard "The Good News", Jesus loves me, yes I cause the Bible tells me so". Dennett didn't invent the Omnibenevolent God. You must have been living under a rock.
@jeil5676
3 күн бұрын
If one realizes their god is evil or powerless, it brings their whole religion into question on whether any of it is believable or not. A first step towards atheism.
@enaidealukal4105
2 жыл бұрын
As an atheist I find Dennett's argument here to be unsatisfying. Certainly, in science the burden of proof is on the new theory, the theory seeking to challenge the established theory. But this has no applicability in metaphysical questions like the existence of God: there is no established theory, there is no Newton or Einstein. So the burden of proof is shared equally. And in order for atheism, rather than agnosticism, to be warranted we need something more than just saying that theism hasn't successfully made its case: we need a positive case for atheism over and against both theism and agnosticism. The good news is, that isn't impossible to do, because theism plausibly DOES make some empirical claims and predictions about how the world is, and so making the case for atheism involves rolling up your sleeve and looking at + compiling the evidence from a bunch of different relevant areas: the evidence for special creation over and against naturalistic cosmology and/or evolution, the efficacy of prayer, whether religious scriptures or mystical experiences ever impart any new/novel information, and so on. And the evidence is pretty much what we'd expect to see, if naturalism and atheism were true, and highly inconsistent with the supposition that theism is true. THAT is what an "argument for atheism" must look like, not merely pointing out that theism hasn't sufficiently established its conclusions.
@MrJKJKJK1974
2 жыл бұрын
'There is no established theory... so the burden of proof is shared equally'. Why do you think that? The burden of proof is always on the one/s making the claim, irrespective of any previous claims made. Even in the metaphysical, each claim is assessed on it's merits. If atheism is defined as a lack of belief, then a lack of any evidence to support theism is all that atheism requires. Also, atheism and agnosticism deal with different positions. I'm an agnostic atheist = I don't know if god/s exist and I don't believe in any god/s. You're not one or the other.
@spuriusscapula4829
2 жыл бұрын
I could conjure up thousands of inane ideas based on my imagination. Nobody can prove them all wrong. You're writing all these long paragraphs against a straightforward argumenr.
@enaidealukal4105
2 жыл бұрын
@@spuriusscapula4829 We're not talking about disproving thousands of inane ideas based on imagination. We're talking having good and sufficient evidence/reasons for supposing theism to be false, since without them atheism is not rationally warranted/justified. So not only does Dennett's argument here not work, it is completely unnecessary: it seeks to absolve atheism of a burden of proof that it can and does meet.
@alfredorezende-po8pg
4 күн бұрын
Before defining an entity, one needs to know where is the limit of what can be undefined
@davidhunt7427
4 жыл бұрын
When I was six and attending Baptist Sunday school, my class was given a lecture on heaven and hell, death and the afterlife. When the lecture was over, I asked, *Is there free will in the afterlife?* Apparently no one else had ever asked this question. I was told that, _No, there is no free will in the afterlife because then good deeds could be done in hell, while bad deeds could be done in heaven. But all that is already sorted out before anyone dies, so there is no room for moral agency after one is dead._ So then I asked, *If I don’t take my body with me, and I don’t take my free will with me, why am I supposed to care about having an afterlife at all?* The reaction I got was very surprising at the time, and at 65 it is still surprising. In response, I was told, _Don’t ask such silly questions, and stop being a smartass._ That was the end of the discussion. It was not long before I made myself a prayer, which I have always kept in my heart and in my mind. *_Dear Lord, let it be your will that will direct my life. Not as I would choose, nor as any person would choose, nor as any religious text would choose, but as you, dear Lord, would choose for me. This being done, I am content._*
@themplar
4 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone pray? And why would anyone think a god exist?
@davidhunt7427
4 жыл бұрын
@@themplar Good questions. I believe it is because before existence exists for us humans,.. our primary awareness is of ourselves,.. in particular our minds, consciousness, and our own willfulness. It's easy to believe, as Sam Harris does, that consciousness itself is a primary, even over existence itself. How is it that mere material, deterministic being can give rise to consciousness at all? Which strains our credibility more,.. a belief in God, or in a Cosmos that has always existed, and always will,.. including laws of physics which seem to both be true and simultaneously incomprehensible. Read *_The Tao of Physics_* at pdfs.semanticscholar.org/bd99/79a7203a618b3d85b251abf6e4af080728b6.pdf for instance. I believe in God primarily because the belief completes me, because I need values by which to live by, while not being a lower animal with a complete and sufficient automatic instinct for survival. How do I know what I should do,.. and how do I know what free and sovereign people must do regardless of individual choice. My need for God comes from the same place that tells me I need a moral conscience. I believe even Sam Harris, Daniel Dennett, and Richard Dawkins all would recognize humanity's need to seek out and find transcendent values; the next question is do the existence of such transcendent values require supernaturalism. I don't absolutely think so,.. but I understand how much more satisfying it is to believe so. *_There is no significant example in history, before our time, of a society successfully maintaining moral life without the aid of religion. France, the United States, and some other nations have divorced their governments from all churches, but they have had the help of religion in keeping social order. Only a few Communist states have not merely dissociated themselves from religion but have repudiated its aid; and perhaps the apparent and provisional success of this experiment in Russia owes much to the temporary acceptance of Communism as the religion (or, as skeptics would say, the opium) of the people, replacing the church as the vendor of comfort and hope. If the socialist regime should fail in its efforts to destroy relative poverty among the masses, this new religion may lose its fervor and efficacy, and the state may wink at the restoration of supernatural beliefs as an aid in quieting discontent. “As long as there is poverty there will be gods.”_* ~ Will Durant *_If by God we mean not the creative vitality of nature but a supreme being intelligent and benevolent, the answer must be a reluctant negative. Like other departments of biology, history remains at bottom a natural selection of the fittest individuals and groups in a struggle wherein goodness receives no favors, misfortunes abound, and the final test is the ability to survive. Add to the crimes, wars, and cruelties of man the earthquakes, storms, tornadoes, pestilences, tidal waves, and other “acts of God” that periodically desolate human and animal life, and the total evidence suggests either a blind or an impartial fatality, with incidental and apparently haphazard scenes to which we subjectively ascribe order, splendor, beauty, or sublimity. If history supports any theology this would be a dualism like the Zoroastrian or Manichaean: a good spirit and an evil spirit battling for control of the universe and men’s souls. These faiths and Christianity (which is essentially Manichaean) assured their followers that the good spirit would win in the end; but of this consummation history offers no guarantee. Nature and history do not agree with our conceptions of good and bad; they define good as that which survives, and bad as that which goes under; and the universe has no prejudice in favor of Christ as against Genghis Khan._* ~ Will Durant *_To the unhappy, the suffering, the bereaved, the old, it has brought supernatural comforts valued by millions of souls as more precious than any natural aid. It has helped parents and teachers to discipline the young. It has conferred meaning and dignity upon the lowliest existence, and through its sacraments has made for stability by transforming human covenants into solemn relationships with God. It has kept the poor (said Napoleon) from murdering the rich. For since the natural inequality of men dooms many of us to poverty or defeat, some supernatural hope may be the sole alternative to despair. Destroy that hope, and class war is intensified. Heaven and utopia are buckets in a well: when one goes down the other goes up; when religion declines Communism grows._* ~ Will Durant *_While Catholics were murdering Protestants in France, and Protestants, under Elizabeth, were murdering Catholics in England, and the Inquisition was killing and robbing Jews in Spain, and Bruno was being burned at the stake in Italy, Akbar invited the representatives of all the religions in his empire to a conference, pledged them to peace, issued edicts of toleration for every cult and creed, and, as evidence of his own neutrality, married wives from the Brahman, Buddhist, and Mohammedan faiths. His greatest pleasure, after the fires of youth had cooled, was in the free discussion of religious beliefs. … The King took no stock in revelations, and would accept nothing that could not justify itself with science and philosophy. It was not unusual for him to gather friends and prelates of various sects together, and discuss religion with them from Thursday evening to Friday noon. When the Moslem mullahs and the Christian priests quarreled he reproved them both, saying that God should be worshiped through the intellect, and not by a blind adherence to supposed revelations. "Each person," he said, in the spirit - and perhaps through the influence - of the Upanishads and Kabir, "according to his condition gives the Supreme Being a name; but in reality to name the Unknowable is vain."_* ~ Will Durant *_The invention and spread of contraceptives is the proximate cause of our changing morals. The old moral code restricted sexual experience to marriage, because copulation could not be effectively separated from parentage, and parentage could be made responsible only through marriage. But to-day the dissociation of sex from reproduction has created a situation unforeseen by our fathers. All the relations of men and women are being changed by this one factor; and the moral code of the future will have to take account of these new facilities which invention has placed at the service of ancient desires._* ~ Will Durant *_I feel for all faiths the warm sympathy of one who has come to learn that even the trust in reason is a precarious faith, and that we are all fragments of darkness groping for the sun._* ~ Will Durant *_Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance._* ~ Will Durant
@k-3402
3 жыл бұрын
I found this moving, and I'm a non-believer. Good stuff
@davidhunt7427
3 жыл бұрын
@@k-3402 The following is from what I hope will be on my gravestone so as to provoke a thoughtful reaction from anyone passing by in happenstance. I offer it now as a thoughtful alternative to an afterlife of merely heaven, hell, purgatory, reincarnation, or the many other imagined possibilities. *The Lake* *_It is said by some that there is a place where a bright, clear, mountain lake resides, a place where people of this world never visit. To attempt to describe it is possible, but all such tales are probably just fancy. Be that as it may, here is how it was described to me, in my sleep, by the spring rain, when I was still very small and trusting. I was very certain at the time that the rain had not lied or exaggerated, but as I grew older I came to doubt. This would seem to be our way. How sad._* *_The rain told me that the air at the lake was fresh and clean and yet so thin that I would faint were I to be there. This lake was in the midst of a forest of giant pine trees that appeared to reach forever to the skies above. In contemplating these trees one would wonder if this lake were not really just a small puddle on the forest floor. But as all bodies of water were the same to my singing spring rain, I imagine these distinctions had simply gone unnoticed._* *_There was something most remarkable about this lake. For I was told that all the souls of all the men & women & little children like myself washed through this water. There seemed to be some hint that all of life had passed by and was passing by this oasis whose place could not be named. As each new life was made, a handful of water was removed from the lake and placed within a mortal body. Day by day the water would be made purer or filthier as that life spent it’s limited time in the world. When that life was done, the water that had been given to it was returned to the lake as it's body was returned to dust._* *_And such was how all the hope and travail of life would come to each new generation. Some would succeed more than it would seem they should and so returned to the lake the courage and celebration that they had made of their lives. Others learned the habit of fear and distrust in their lives when they were very young and so took very meanly of every opportunity as only a threat. They only returned water that was foul and putrid for what else did they ever know._* *_And so I was told, that was how it was with me and everyone who ever had been, or was, or would be. Parts of me had passed through many lives and parts of me were utterly new and untried. Parts of me would live other lives again and others would be forever still when I was done. None of us was ever created entirely alone nor could we ever be, for like the air and water of this world, which we all communally use and of which our bodies are literally made, our souls are unique and yet all made of the same stuff. How many times would you have to draw water from a lake to draw the same handful? Or is it just a silly question? I don’t know. Somehow it just doesn’t seem to be a very important question now._* *_What would be an important question anyway?_*
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
Judgement Day for the non-Christian will be the worst experience imaginable. You will be tried and found guilty of crimes such as lying, stealing, using God’s name in vain, lusting, disrespecting parents etc Your life will be played back to you and ALL your sins revealed. Many will run to their good works to save them like charitable deeds, Fasting, being kind to others; but that won’t help. If you break man’s law you go to jail, If you break Gods law you go to Hell. But Jesus came and paid your penalty on the cross If you only Repent and Believe in Jesus than God can grant you forgiveness of sins and let you into Heaven because of JESUS LOVE.
@AlcibiadesMD
11 күн бұрын
Don’t understand why the interview format is this way, professor Dennett twisting his neck through the whole affair? Richard Dawkins conducted one in similar fashion. Does anyone know why it is done this way? and in church?
@maxnullifidian
5 жыл бұрын
"God always is, nor has He been and is not, nor is but has not been, but as He never will not be; so He never was not." - Augustine of Hippo That's easy for him to say!
@dylanallen8330
4 жыл бұрын
🤔
@edwardwicks304
4 жыл бұрын
😄
@richardgratton7557
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t not disagree with that!
@Sptd44
3 жыл бұрын
Are you guys sitting in a church?
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
Probably catholic not Coptic Orthodox
@silmarforbes4904
7 жыл бұрын
i love smart santa!
@showcase-me
3 жыл бұрын
If you're in his naughty list you receive a king James bible. As useful as charcoal.😁
@88marome
5 жыл бұрын
My argument for atheism is: false beliefs leads to dangerous consequences, so we should want to believe in as little false things as possible.
@jesuschrist2710
4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever regretted making someone?
@pegyhill9333
4 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@jamesbentonticer4706
3 жыл бұрын
If you return during my lifetime, I have a baseball sized rock with your name on it.
@k-3402
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, this is gold
@rogerhall4716
Жыл бұрын
He like a blind archer.... misses the target every time. Eloquent, educated but ....so sorry for the chap.... shame.
@himerosTheGod
5 жыл бұрын
As an atheist even I could have of made a better argument for one.
@deficrypto1234
4 жыл бұрын
Go on then! What is the purpose of atheism?
@himerosTheGod
4 жыл бұрын
Adegbenga Ogungbeje It does not have nor require one. Atheism is a simple observation of the world around us & natural law. However the belief that there is an all powerful immortal being that preserves our Consciousness after death is a great claim. And as with all great claims, requires extraordinary evidence.
@deficrypto1234
4 жыл бұрын
@@himerosTheGod U said its an observation of the world around us. With what conclusion? Creation is also an observation of the world around us. If Atheism doesn't require explaining neither does creation too. Can't set a double standard. It's because no atheism can explain their 'ism'.
@deficrypto1234
4 жыл бұрын
@@elisethacker9154 If it serves no purpose, let's not waste time talking about it.
@deficrypto1234
4 жыл бұрын
@@elisethacker9154 What truth are people going to find out if it serves no purpose?
@sethbase6960
2 жыл бұрын
I love the "new atheists" but I'm not sure why they call themselves that given that they aren't saying anything new. They're presenting the exact same arguments that other atheistic philosophers throughout history have used.
@maxdoubt5219
8 жыл бұрын
If you deny God, as opposed to merely lacking belief, some burden of proof falls upon you. Dennett presents us with first the argument from Occam's razor. Then the argument from evil. Then the argument from divine hiddenness. Fine points, but at bottom, the qualities of omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence and omnibenevolence contradict each other and no being having all these qualities could possibly exist.
@newestaddition5234
5 жыл бұрын
Deacon Verter but one does exist. he is self existent. there is no God but God, by himself,self existent. no one higher than him.
@stevemclendsy9478
5 жыл бұрын
God is not a he or she.
@godbeIess
Жыл бұрын
@@stevemclendsy9478 If god is a father than it is a he.
@amesnfire1098
2 ай бұрын
"If you deny God, as opposed to merely lacking belief, some burden of proof falls upon you." I do not see God right now. "But you see churches and priests and the bible." I see statues to the spaghetti monster and have similar amount of evidence to assume that Hades or Ra exist, what's your point? "You don't see your friend bob right now." It's true, I don't. But I have before and I can put trust in my belief I'll see them again or have a (presumably heartbreaking) reason on why I wouldn't in the future. Regardless if I see bob again or not, there is more evidence bob exists or existed than any god currently claimed to exist. "So there's equal amount of evidence that Caesar and God existed in the past." Now you're catching on. Let's go back to my 2nd answer.
@Liberated_from_Religion
3 ай бұрын
“Atheism is a natural result of intellectual honesty.” (Paulo Bittencourt)
@mr.d.8121
4 жыл бұрын
The god character talks to preachers and tells them they need a new private jet.
@lexyasimplename1479
4 жыл бұрын
You can't blame God for the work of false preachers. Just like I can't blame your grand parents for that ignorant comment you just made
@easylivingsherpa
4 жыл бұрын
Fallacy of exclusion.
@FactStorm
3 жыл бұрын
@@lexyasimplename1479 Newsflash: all preachers are false. It's an oxymoron to to say otherwise.
@lexyasimplename1479
3 жыл бұрын
@@FactStorm So your way is to generalise? Not all preachers are false. Some genuinely want to spread the Gospel of God, so please don't generalise
@FactStorm
3 жыл бұрын
@@lexyasimplename1479 Yes they are all false because they claim to know things no human is capable of knowing. If that's not arrogant then I don't know what is. They have the audacity to pass it off as meek and humble but its the furthest thing from. Claiming to have access to the supernatural is the epitome of delusional-narcissism. Spread the gospel of god? And who's to say what that is? Christians claim it is theirs, and even within its Mormons, Orthodox etc..let alone competing religions which make parallel claims. It's like dealing with a bunch of children who never grew up.
@johnroemeeks_apologetics
4 ай бұрын
This interview is dishonest. Christians do not argue that God is not all powerful to tackle the problem of evil, We argue that although God is good and omnipotent, he is Holy and Just. And he must punish us for sin. That's the argument we use. Stop strawmanning, we do not use that argument. God is just so he must punish sin, but God is also love and merciful so he became flesh and paid the debt of our sin himself in the person of Jesus Christ. So dishonest and ignorant to say Christians argue God is not all powerful!!
@dipdo7675
6 жыл бұрын
Dennet just simply brilliant!! Destroys theologians and religion in 10 minutes!!
@Kwin9
4 ай бұрын
Yeah there are some irrefutable arguments against the existence of an all powerful, all loving god, but…..
@SecretEyeSpot
8 жыл бұрын
I think the argument for evil is the weakest argument against the existence of God.. if one considers any of the events of Nature as "evil".. they are on an infinite regress of judgements against nature that is based on some ideal of what "ought to be" rather than what truly and naturally is.. just like faith..
@Pyriold
8 жыл бұрын
+Akili Alexander It's not an argument against all gods. But it is an argument against an all powerfull, all knowing, all good god.
@SecretEyeSpot
8 жыл бұрын
Pyriold Wether plural or singular.. the same problem applies.. an argument against evil is entirely subjective.. not only because the relativity of what can be considered evil between us humans.. but also because if an all powerful loving and good, yet incomprehensible God truly does exists.. why should we expect to be able to understand what is evil in its eyes? is the workings of humans understood by ants? no.. so why should we expect to understand the Mind of God..if it does exists.. our morality merely approximates to its Nature.. insofar as this God can be objectively understood...
@Pyriold
8 жыл бұрын
Look, i understand that this argumenting is just like discussing the color of lord voldemorts panties. We do not *know* anything about any god, there are just believes. All we can do is checking those believes for consistencies, from our human point of view. That's what i did. You can not assume the view point of a god. Arguing from that perspective makes every discussion about it totally futile. Btw.: This is just like the standard excuse from theists, "god works in mysterious ways". Well, sure... but then you don't need to pray to him, because you have no idea what his judgement of your praying is. I don't think you are a theist, it just strikes me as the same way of arguing.
@SecretEyeSpot
8 жыл бұрын
Pyriold Very few claim to *know* things about God, like one would know empirical facts.. What theists often do.. is reason concerning the philosophical implications of one's beliefs.. Hence why Atheists are quite out of date when it comes to theistic arguments, just like most Theists are out of date when it comes to arguing theories in Science... Fact of the matter is, Theists form sects based on the philosophical implications of their theologies.. Just because atheists like Daniel Dennet argues as an outsider against their claims, which is often filled with Straw men because they don't understand Theistic Epistemology.. doesn't make the "mystery of God" a mystery to the people who form beliefs about such symbols/objects/entities...
@Pyriold
8 жыл бұрын
Well, i don't need to study all the intricacies of astrology to know that it is all hogwash. All i need to know is that the basic assumptions are not supported by evidence. Same with religion and theistic epistemology.
@mikemattingly9181
3 ай бұрын
David Bentley Hart was correct on this program when he highlighted the reality that 99% of arguments for atheism are ridiculously bad, and that the list of somewhat competent atheist philosophers is an exceedingly small one.
@epicdman8139
7 жыл бұрын
Daniel Dennett is a very interesting man. I'm surprised he's considered one of the four horseman, because he seems so calm and peaceful about his beliefs. New atheism is quite the opposite
@bms77
4 жыл бұрын
Atheism in general is just defined as the lack of positive belief in a god or gods. That’s it. Anything else is just personal opinion
@bms77
4 жыл бұрын
Rookmations well said. And spot on! Good job
@franklinbarrett4630
4 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of the saying, “It’s only called a class war with the poor fight back”. Religion has always been at war with atheists so the idea that new atheists have started something is ridiculous.
@JB-kx9bx
3 жыл бұрын
I think after Hitchens passed the movement chilled out a bit. I wasn't a big fan of his war mongering.
@k-3402
3 жыл бұрын
@@franklinbarrett4630 Wish I could give this 100 thumbs up. If you look at any major religion's scriptures, you'll find extreme condemnation and vitriol directed at non-believers.
@controllerbrain
3 жыл бұрын
Believer would say well Gog hasn't written a holy book like God has.
@JohnSmith-jn1gs
8 жыл бұрын
The argument from preservation of free will is trivially easy to disprove. Q: Is there evil in Heaven? A: No, evil is not allowed in Heaven; that's why the unredeemed are not granted entry to Heaven. Q: Is there free will in Heaven? A: Yes, otherwise the angels would not have been able to revolt against Yahweh. Therefore, free will can exist where evil is not permitted.
@AlchemistOfNirnroot
8 жыл бұрын
+John Smith Still a contradiction. If the angels revolted, and this is seen as evil then evil does exist in heaven. Both cannot be simultaneously true...
@tofu_golem
8 жыл бұрын
+John Smith Thank you for illustrating the inherent contradiction in your claim. How do you resolve the contradiction?
@JohnSmith-jn1gs
8 жыл бұрын
IF it is seen as evil. You can't just add bits to the story to refute an inconvenient conclusion.AlchemistOfNirnroot
@tomjackson7755
7 жыл бұрын
Free will can't exist with an all knowing god. If everything is known then every choice has already been made and no free will.
@tomjackson7755
7 жыл бұрын
Not if the god is all knowing. If everything is known then every choice has already been made and there is no free will.
@paulmathis3232
5 ай бұрын
It would seem to me that most things that happen cannot be proven. I can't prove the sun will come up tomorrow. There are lots of things that happen that we can't prove. We would be in bad shape if we had to prove everything we believe. life is not a geometry book.
@abdrazeksagaama1690
5 жыл бұрын
Islam will give you the proof bro
@FactStorm
3 жыл бұрын
No it won't, not even close. You are just another indoctrinated religious person.
@jamespottex5197
3 жыл бұрын
@@FactStorm well religion is better option than stupid irreligious like u
@FactStorm
3 жыл бұрын
@@jamespottex5197 Lmao, you're either a kid or a really stupid adult.
@0zyris
8 ай бұрын
"God" does not exist as a belief because of it's explanatory value regarding the universe. People simply believe it exists because that was what they were taught since they were little. Nobody ever believed in it who wasn't told that it was so by someone else first, even if it required some form of "transcendent experience" to finally convince them. Atheism comes about exactly because of the lack of coherent explanatory value of "God" and the mystical.
@crossvinburn831
2 жыл бұрын
How to be saved and be right with God for eternal life! 1-Admit you’re a sinner and be willing to turn from your sins towards God. 2-Believe onto Jesus Christ,who being the Son of God, died on the cross, was buried and resurrected for the forgiveness of our sins as a free gift. 3-Confess onto God,asking to be saved accepting this free gift of salvation, to start a new life being born again after being saved from your sins. Scripture links below. The romans road to salvation. 1.Romans 3:10, “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:" 2.Romans 3:23, “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” 3.Romans 5:8, “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." 4.Romans 5:12 “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for all that have sinned:" 5.Romans 6:23, “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” 6.Romans 10:9, “That is thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.” 7.Romans 10:13, “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. More scripture. John 3:16-17 16."For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” 17.”For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.” Romans 5:8-9 8."But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9."Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him." 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, 1."Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2."By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.” 3."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;” 4."And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
@greyeyed123
2 жыл бұрын
You can't prove Santa DOESN'T exist. Where are the cookies going? Where are these presents coming from? How do you explain the joy I get from believing in Santa? How to you explain all the elves on the North Pole? How do you explain the flying reindeer? How empty would the lives of children be without Santa?
@Samgurney88
Жыл бұрын
I tend to agree with Dennett, but I think his “Gog” thought experiment slightly overstates our position as atheists. Strictly, Ockham’s rasor tells us that we have no reason to posit “Gog”, not that we should assume “Gog” does not exist. That we *do* tend to disbelieve in “Gog”, if we do, is not due to Ockham’s razor, but to (roughly) Bayesian thinking: thermodynamics tells us that order does not tend to arise spontaneously in closed systems, and we cannot imagine agents or natural processes that would create “Gog”, so we assume that it probably does not exist. There is a disanalogy here. What “priors” do we have about God that are (I) supported by experience; (ii) nearly as compelling as those that lead us to reject “Gog” as unlikely to exist? It’s easy enough to argue that belief in God is not justified without having to overstate the case.
@googlespynetwork
Жыл бұрын
It's pride and sin in general that keeps people from God. Not logic, intellect and Science. The Bible literally says that God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble .
@paulmathis3232
5 ай бұрын
God is a kind of gold standard for morality and gives us a reason to be better off than a speck of dust. But I suppose this still does not prove there is a God.
@stevenmackey582
Жыл бұрын
I've never understood the "if God is all good and all powerful than evil disproves his existence." argument. this has major assumptions inherent in the argument including the fact that evil and struggle are not part of an all good Gods purpose. all proponents of Christianity for example have a plethora of reasons why evil and struggle are essential parts of the purpose of God. I'm sure the other religions have very well thought out answers as well.
@FrankOdonnell-ej3hd
Жыл бұрын
Even if you could actually PROVE the existence of a Creator-god it wouldn't make any difference as we'd still be left with this same rotten world. Anyway does anyone know if Dennett is still around and if so how's he doing?
@shamrock2165
Жыл бұрын
The comments are funny. I don't believe in a god because there is no good evidence that convinces me to believe in one. Do I need to prove this to be an atheist, no. Its simply not believing in a deity. Someone's need to prove to me god exists for me to change my mind. Otherwise I'll go about living my moral, good life without religion. I don't see how anyone can argue my viewpoint.
@maxdoubt5219
4 жыл бұрын
Note the theocentrism: the unspoken and even unacknowledged belief that if there is a god, it must be God and no others. Stop defining atheists as "people who don't believe in God." That's a poor definition for there are billions of people who also don't believe or disbelieve in God yet they are religious! Muslims and Hindus mostly. Having the name and the noun pronounced the same leads to confusion; easily assuaged by a very small change. Atheists don't believe or disbelieve in _gods!_ All gods. You may spurn belief in God yet still believe in some other god. But if the word "gods" is used it's clear that you are referring specifically to atheists. So pluralize it or speak of those who don't believe or disbelieve in "a god." Yes, I disbelieve in Tinkerbell. But it's more accurate and informative to say I disbelieve in fairies!
@Eric123456355
3 жыл бұрын
The positive argument for god is existence of all he is wrong. Evil is metaphor of ego. Animals don’t do bad things without necessity. They don’t do bad thing . God doesn’t have a mind it is a mind. Just hands dropping to stupidity of his arguments.
@kumar2ji
2 жыл бұрын
All is mind, the universes, the planets, the inhabitants, science, our thoughts, education and beliefs, their consciousness. The present state of man in this 3rd dimension are incredibly limited. If man can understand his limitation he shall avoid self deception.
@party4keeps28
4 жыл бұрын
In a couple hundred years or less, no one will believe in a god and people will look back on modern religions just like how we now look back on ancient ones as being ridiculous.
@themplar
4 жыл бұрын
I dont think that stuff is ever gonna be completely gone. But we can hope.
@ronaldlindeman6136
4 жыл бұрын
That is what people like Thomas Jefferson thought when he was alive, 1743 to 1826. There was a Universalist movement. The Universalist movement was after the Deists, which was very popular for a time. But Religions and Religious belief comes and goes in waves in human history.
@party4keeps28
4 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldlindeman6136 Sure but back then we didn't have nearly as much of a scientific understanding as we do now and it's only growing at an almost exponential rate.
@ronaldlindeman6136
4 жыл бұрын
@@party4keeps28 We are getting much more scientific understanding about the world we live in. But I think we do a bad job of explaining Religions like Christianity and why they are not true. What is Christianity? What category of human experience explains Christianity the most? Is it Philosophy? Is it Science? Is it History? I'll just jump in their and give you my thought. Storytelling. Jesus of Christianity has more to do with Luke Skywalker of Star Wars, James T. Kirk of the Star Ship Enterprise, Wolverine of Xmen, Superman of Superman and Batman of Batman than anything else. I call myself a Christian Critic, not an Atheist. There are 2 types of Atheist, just like to types of Theists, 1) Story Atheist and 2) Nature's God Atheist. To really explain Christianity and why it is not true is best done to understand it as a story. Does Christianity have Philosophy, Science, History and other things like suggestions on personal relationships and a set of political views someone should have, but they are all pushed not by logic, Reason and knowledge, but by storytelling. And people who call themselves Atheists suck at explaining all that stuff. Which is why at the pace we are going I don't think we are making as much of an impact on society as we could make.
@MadebyJimbob
3 жыл бұрын
There is no positive arguments for numbers kiddo
@UnbiasOP
7 ай бұрын
There has got to be better arguments for atheism than these. It would be a pretty tenuous position in the face of modern apologists who go much deeper and more elaborately into these weak arguments.
@jamesfreel8157
2 жыл бұрын
The possibility God exists as advertised cannot be demonstrated false.
@davidpersson250
Жыл бұрын
I thank jesus in prayer for showing me that he and all other religions are all false and men made
@davidschneider6306
5 жыл бұрын
If God exists (He, She or It) must think it’s irrelevant that we believe in (He, She or It) or we would have more believable sources of information rather than money grabbers like Pat Robertson and Jimmy Swaggert.
@Kyrani99
Жыл бұрын
The very fact that there is a Universe and life in it is proof of God. Otherwise there would be nothing.
@sunset2.00
2 жыл бұрын
All i hear , arguments for bad or hidden or mysterious God.
@tomgreene2282
2 жыл бұрын
This fellow seems to mix up God and Christianity as many do.
@lurkenskanal405
4 жыл бұрын
i see religious people as kind of cute, like children beliving in santa. its stupid af but still kinda cute. religion is shrinking as science and understanding is growing. religion was made up to fill a void of understanding. humans are kinda slow but we are getting there..
@bridgefin
4 жыл бұрын
It takes far more belief to be an atheist than to be a theist.
@davidkarter.3632
4 жыл бұрын
@@bridgefin atheism isn't a belief system, its lack of belief on supernatural deity
@themplar
4 жыл бұрын
And then you remember how they are being total assholes against gay people and pretty much every social progress we made in the last 70 years?
@bridgefin
4 жыл бұрын
@@davidkarter.3632 Atheism requires a belief in nature creating in a miraculous way with zero intelligence and direction. The first protein cell occurring by chance? I don't have that much belief.
@davidkarter.3632
4 жыл бұрын
@@bridgefin Even if evolution was false, that wouldn't make the Quran true, or the Book of Mormon true, or Hinduism, or Scientology, etc. You'd STILL have no evidence whatsoever for an INVISIBLE MAGIC SKY FAIRY or for your absurd book of ancient fairy tales with the talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, and a virgin-born demigod zombie! Modern medical science is based on evolution. So if you don't believe it, don't go to a doctor the next time you get badly sick or injured! Instead, pray to your imaginary god and see how well that works for you. "Faith-Healing Parents Jailed After Second Child's Death" time.com/8750/faith-healing-parents-jailed-after-second-childs-death/ Where did they get that crazy idea?!! "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer" (Matt. 21:22), "And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well" (James 5:15). "And these signs will accompany those who believe...they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well" (Mark 16:17-18). "Nothing will be impossible for you" (Matt. 17:20).
@BugRib
4 жыл бұрын
Is it like something to be Dan Dennett? The more I hear about his theory of consciousness, the more I think he has no actual experiences. His brain just processes information and spits out behavior, but it all happens in the dark. Or he has some sort of qualia blindness--i.e. He sees, hears, feels, etc. things, and he responds to those sensations just like anyone else...but he somehow fails to notice the qualitative aspects of those things, kind of like the phenomenon of "blindsight". Or he's just so dogmatic with his materialism that he's managed to talk himself into the silliest delusion in human history--he's convinced himself that he doesn't REALLY have any experiences. I mean...I'm an atheist too, but how can anyone say that experiences don't REALLY exist? Why can't we just accept that there's something a bit "supernatural" (i.e. non-physical) about subjective, first-person experiences, not to mention the purely qualitative contents of those experiences? How do you get purely qualitative experiences like the redness of red, or the pain of stubbing your toe from purely quantitative physical science? If it's possible to get those things quantitatively, then what's the mathematical description of the redness of red? C'mon, dude...
@samuelstephens6904
4 жыл бұрын
That's not a very fair assessment of his views. In some sense, you are begging the question against him when you say things like "How do you get purely qualitative experiences like the redness of red, or the pain of stubbing your toe from purely quantitative physical science?" The whole idea is that this is an incorrect way of framing the issue. He isn't saying experiences don't "really" exist. He is saying they don't exist as qualia, as distinct properties, that there are no "facts about red" on the one hand and "the pure experience of redness" on the other. It's kind of analogous to the relationship between philosophy and motion. The ancient Greeks and later Medievals just simply lacked the conceptual and linguistic tools to understand and describe how things move and change. Our current understanding of consciousness could very well be so primitive. Indeed, it would be expected if one appreciates the full history of ideas. The lesson to be learned here is that we need to keep an open mind. Dennett is a serious philosopher and represents a perspective on consciousness that's taken seriously by plenty of other people in philosophy and the cognitive sciences. It's not a fringe view. This very well could be a dissolvable issue. And it's not dogmatic to hold-out for materialistic explanations of things. There are good epistemological and practical reasons to look keep looking in that direction.
@luizr.5599
10 ай бұрын
I love god-bashing. Thanks.
@troyhayder6986
3 жыл бұрын
If jesus was a lion of juhdah... Then who was his dah?
@neuhausfm
Жыл бұрын
Dennett asks, "Why do we need God?" Albert Einstein would answer, "To express awe at our deeply awesome world, of which we scientists understand only a minimal fraction."
@Paine137
8 күн бұрын
And then Einstein would tell you to stop mischaracterizing his view, as he explicitly wrote in a 1954 letter.
@jeil5676
3 күн бұрын
He's actually telling you why man created god.
@sforsmartwork5405
4 жыл бұрын
My god is dingen
@alastairwest5200
5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Grey Alien, & my race doesn't believe in God, but we do believe in Daniel Dennett - period.
@A_Yo_brown
2 жыл бұрын
Theist: So what’s arguments do you have for your position? Atheist: Oh, I don’t claim to have any arguments for my position, I’m just not convinced of your arguments. Theist: So, you don’t have any arguments for any of your views about God? Atheist: Its not my job to have arguments, that’s your job. Theist: What? Atheist: Any arguments that you have-even the ones I’ve never heard of and you’ve never told me about-I’m not convinced. It’s not my job to give arguments, all I have to do is say I’m not convinced. Theist: I see. I’m not convinced you don’t have to give arguments.
@topologyrob
2 жыл бұрын
It's more when "new atheists" make claims like "religion poisons everything" that they really need to put up some evidence.
@ravingcyclist624
2 ай бұрын
No god. Never was. Never will be.
@nancysikes
2 жыл бұрын
It's remarkable how naive and just plain sophomoric Dennett's conversation on this point is. A good thing to do would be to set Sarah Coakley on him or, better, to ask him to address particular arguments of any of the major theologians. It's striking how he gets away with citing DC comics as an illustration of his understanding of the God posited by believers. As well, he's perfectly content pointing to some generalized "there used to be bad gods" (like my high school students who point to some vague "back then") without specific reference to cultures or historical context. Has he read Greek tragedy? Does know that Oedipus cries out against "the savagery of God"? Sophocles' polytheism seems not to have remotely settled the question of why God would permit excruciating suffering. Dennett is a bore, a nerd, and a pretty lightweight thinker.
@baleandfhos
Жыл бұрын
Your final criticisms contained three points, and your first two were that he's a bore and a nerd. Fascinating insight! Maybe you could articulate the "arguments of any of the major theologians"?
@cosmicpsyops4529
2 жыл бұрын
You cannot prove something doesn't exist, you can only argue that things may exist in science. If enough credible people decide it may exist, we say it does, tentatively.
@CesarClouds
Жыл бұрын
I can prove that I do not not exist because I exist.
@michelangelope830
2 жыл бұрын
Free will is choice between alternatives. The religious god’s paradox is that our actions, and the religious god’s own actions, are determined by the religious god’s omniscience of the future. We couldn’t prove a perfect religious god wrong choosing to deviate from the religious god’s perfect plan, that eliminates all alternatives and responsibility for our decisions. I know I have free will therefore the religious god doesn’t exist. Religious people have confused hatred with perfect love and harmful nonsense with the absolute truth for fear of hell and the empty promise of an eternal heaven, because there is not life without death. Religious people would explain away every contradiction to support the irrationality of religion. Atheism is the belief that everything was created from nothing, that existence was created from non existence, an impossibility, confusing the debate about the existence of God with the debate about the existence of a religious god, to misunderstand reality without God. More faith is required to believe that the Miracle of Life and Death was created from nothing, an impossibility, than to believe the prophet Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged horse. Atheism is blind faith in the absurd because the only logical conclusion from the knowledge that existence can not be created from the absence of existence is that eternal God exists. Atheism is made up extravagant pseudoscience where anything goes and irrational pseudophilosophy to support the irrational belief that God doesn’t exist. Atheists have made up the “special pleading fallacy” because according to their illogical thinking God would have to be created like everything else, although if God was created God wouldn’t be God and nothing would exist. The debate between religious people and atheists is encysted because God exist and the religious god doesn’t, so both are wrong having arguments to be right. Hell and heaven is ourselves for eternity and religious people on dying would realise that God exists and being God they were deceived by a liar they worshipped and sacrificed for, causing infinite shame, guilt. Atheists would suffer their own stubbornness, arrogance, irrationality of denying logic and the existence of the creation as evidence of the creator. Being a fool is God’s hell. God is perfect justice with perfect knowledge and is for everyone the same, to know the truth of what have we done to Ourself is karma. Atheists would ask for proof of God’s existence but would not allow the “Theory of Life to Death impossibility possible miracle God”, the first theory on God based on logic, rational thinking, philosophy, to be known to end atheism and religion and collapse mortality rates as evidence of a miracle for all humanity to witness. Religious people are so scared of having their faith challenged just in case their almighty religious god could not avoid the end of religion that they deny me any chance. I exist therefore i was created or always existed, and the creator was created or always existed, therefore God exists. Creation is what has a beginning of existence and creator is the cause of the creation. I was created by my parents. The logical God’s paradox is that it is impossible to exist existence without the existence of eternity, that is impossible. In infinite time every present moment is preceded by a never ending past that would be future, and the moment of the creation of finitude, life, the miracle of Life and Death, would never be reached. I know i exist therefore the paradox must be resolved. The God’s paradox is resolved being the impossibility made possible by the miracle of God, that can do the impossible possible. It is impossible to exist finitude without the existence of infinitude. Can a car go at infinite speed, start a race an eternity ago, have a football pitch infinite surface, have the sky infinite stars? It is impossible. I have a beginning of existence therefore the God’s paradox must be resolved. To resolve the paradox the infinitude is the miracle of God that make possible the impossible. The miraculous nature of God coincides with our psychology because we are God, and explains why is important for us to have children. God rejuvenates when old life die and regenerates when life is born. Our morality or conscience emanates from being God and explains what we understand as good and evil. When we hurt others we are hurting ourselves impossibility possible miracle God. We are the history of God, God’s Life that is all lives. God is like an eternal Dreamer that existed alone purposeless, meaningless, like a perfect religious god, and designed his own life and death creating the miraculous Dream of Life and Death from Self to become Alive being the dream, all reality. Why the cosmological argument for the existence of God is understood by religious people and kids and is rejected as all kind of fallacies by atheists? Because humanity choose to ignore or reject the arguments that contradict their vision of reality. The only logical conclusion from the veracity of the logical proposition “if everything needed to be created or have a beginning of existence nothing would exist” and my own existence is that something exists eternally because was not created, God, the creator of the creation, life, finitude. It is impossible the existence of an infinite sequence of finitude without a beginning of existence, without the existence of an infinite entity or God. It is impossible the existence of a sequence like son, father, grandfather ad infinitum without a beginning of existence. I would not exist if God didn’t exist. Is the truth enough evidence that God exists for atheists? Atheists are so difficult that wouldn’t be able to prove their own existence if the logical conclusion is that God exists, as is the case because nothing can be created from nothing. The miracle of God is that the Creator is the Creation, the Designer designed its own Life and Death and created the Miracle of Life and Death from eternal Existence from Self to become Alive because life gives meaning to existence and there is not life without death. God didn’t choose to exist because is eternal, only chose to live becoming mortal creating the Miracle of Life and Death. God’s Life ends when all life die to become endless existence, death, like a perfect religious god. Our rational psychology rejects naturally religion, a lie that looks like a lie believed by liars, and accepts the logical concept of a Creator of the Creation. God by nature is impossible to understand because is a miracle, the existence of infinitude. It is impossible that something is created from nothing therefore an eternal entity must exist because if everything needed to be created or have a beginning of existence nothing would exist. And the eternal entity can not be the universe because in infinite time the present moment would never be reached because is preceded by a never ending past. The only logical conclusion from knowing that nothing can not be created from nothing is that God exists. Atheists hide the arrogance of not thinking themselves as part of a whole, of not admitting that something that is not themselves and their belly buttons knew how to create the Miracle of Life and Death, under a false humility of acceptance of our own ignorance. For the friends of the evidence that scrutinize meticulous the obvious truth to object and believe absurd lies without question I say the brain disease of addiction doesn’t exist. Addiction is the psychology of a liar.
@dimbulb23
Жыл бұрын
You can't even control what your brain thinks next.
@rickwyant
5 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand the "problem" of evil. It's just a word like red or tall or big. What is this evil? Flooding, famines, disease? These are just natural occurrences. I would guess evil is just a humans description of an undesired circumstance or outcome but that's only from the human point of view. Evil, good, loce, hate have no more tangible existence than a god.
@invaderzeck6277
4 жыл бұрын
Richard Wyant this is the comment I’ve been looking for! EVIL and GOOD are mere constructs , relative to the only absolute of existence... experience.
@FactStorm
3 жыл бұрын
Evil entails agency and malicious intent. Are floods and earthquakes and volcanoes evil? How about a parasitic wasp?
@doctorandusbruggink4988
2 жыл бұрын
The problem of evil is an interesting topic but not the topic. The topic is does God exist, not is he good in what we define today as good. Technically you can say if God find suffering good that suffering is good then.Or that he is in a spinozist way neutral, there is no evil and good. This is all a second debate, not about atheism or theism.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
Judgement Day for the non-Christian will be the worst experience imaginable. You will be tried and found guilty of crimes such as lying, stealing, using God’s name in vain, lusting, disrespecting parents etc Your life will be played back to you and ALL your sins revealed. Many will run to their good works to save them like charitable deeds, Fasting, being kind to others; but that won’t help. If you break man’s law you go to jail, If you break Gods law you go to Hell. But Jesus came and paid your penalty on the cross If you only Repent and Believe in Jesus than God can grant you forgiveness of sins and let you into Heaven because of JESUS LOVE.
@soccerlife5041
3 жыл бұрын
I m not making a scientific claim for Existence of god . So I m an agnostic thiest. So u can’t say I have a burden of proof. I believe it takes more faith to believe in non existence of God than believing in his existence. In such a case the burden of proof is on both parties. So if an atheist can’t come up with any logical arguments it shows lack of logic and reason in believing that there is no God.
@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363
2 жыл бұрын
You are getting closer to the truth kzitem.info/news/bejne/wqul15aFfmuDqaw I’d love to know your thoughts on this
@umeriftikhar6151
2 жыл бұрын
There is no God but Allah
@mobiustrip1400
3 жыл бұрын
Moses would be jealous of that lush beard
@barbaraannen8126
4 жыл бұрын
Dont jump to conclusions and God fades away.
@bridgefin
4 жыл бұрын
The opposite is true. The atheist jumps to the conclusion that there is no God without proof and in the face of the evidence. The theist can listen to science and reason to the conclude that there must be an immensely intelligent and powerful agent outside of the universe.
@davidkarter.3632
4 жыл бұрын
@@bridgefin For something to disprove you first need to prove if that exist in first and there's not single evidence of god being existed. :)
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