DR is looking like a hard pass currently at the moment imo Sentinel is in the lead that being said they both need some much needed love. That being said I never follow the crowed, so I'll be going Sentinel I feel as most hunters are going dark ranger.
@bigbobam8857
2 ай бұрын
So, something your missing is the synergy between Bombardment (talent directly below multi-shot) and this spec. So, one of the hero talents grants deathblow. Deathblow makes your next kill shot free and with barbs below that, it will deal 50% more damage. Bombardment says you can trick shots whenever you use kill shot (any kill shot, procs, or basic from targets being below 20%). This means, with this spec, we now have a sure fire way to proc trick shots via kill shot(bombardment) to have our rapid fire cleave or aimed shot cleave. This means you effectively don't have to take volley anymore for the cleave.
@JKane_88
2 ай бұрын
niether I am going sunfury fire mage and Rider of the Apocalypse unholy Dk.
@slothfaceyoutube
2 ай бұрын
Mage
@joshuamccurry606
2 ай бұрын
It has always felt like whoever ends up working on the hunter has a very sensible, restrained perspective on class design and the class suffers as a result.
@eltonazevedo1361
2 ай бұрын
not only for hunters... you should see the desgrace they did to warrior speccs all of warrior speccs are all broken and no sense... stupid fucking ideas. no wonder why many people are leaving their warriors behind
@flix1179
2 ай бұрын
Sunfuryyy
@KINGhotaru11
2 ай бұрын
You mean no fucks given 😂
@andrewshandle
2 ай бұрын
Dark Ranger just needs to look cool, that's all, and they seem to have missed the boat on it
@Faisal-nx8zy
2 ай бұрын
Just like how they missed everything else
@EviIM0nk3y
2 ай бұрын
@@Faisal-nx8zy clearly you already had the premeditated thought that it going to bad. clearly you don't like wow anymore. So why follow wow content. Kind of pathetic actually
@Faisal-nx8zy
2 ай бұрын
@@EviIM0nk3y it IS going to BE bad* there are free language courses online.
@schmooplesthesecond5997
Ай бұрын
@@Faisal-nx8zy there are other videos about other video games.
@Faisal-nx8zy
Ай бұрын
@@schmooplesthesecond5997 link me a minecraft tutorial on productive bees
@Girthsquirts
2 ай бұрын
The hunter dev spent all their time doing the art for that dark ranger picture and forgot they had to make an appealing skill tree 😂😂💀
@JohnnyFiction
2 ай бұрын
People have echoed this, but Dark Ranger really only needed to be Cosmetic, more than most hero classes, that's what people wanted and expected. And this is just... so utterly disappointing
@t1mwesterhausen
2 ай бұрын
Oh man, this has me so dissappointed... You are absolutely right, this is not even close to enough. If you look at Sylvanas in HOTS and the withering fire effect, this is exactly what i was envisioning and i was hyped as fuck about this. This in itself made me think i go hunter main for the expansion. Also the dark hounds i thought is something like a spell effect, not a pet. Like this one proc effect of the boomkin where this wolf or whatever gets send out like a spellcast. I dont know its still alpha, but if they dont deliver on the fantasy for this, it does indeed fall flat on its face...
@9estebansantos
2 ай бұрын
thank you for running through this. i wish more content creators would run the through the hero talents like this. theme is very important for these hero talents to work. dark ranger just isnt even close. sentinel definitely overachieved against what i expected. nice stuff
@grim_teevee
2 ай бұрын
100%
@valorf666
2 ай бұрын
Sentinel looks incredibly sleek and impressive! I've always fantasized about giving hunters starstorm, it just exudes sheer coolness! Kudos to Blizzard for nailing this!"
@yashuastryfe125
2 ай бұрын
an intern whos never played any blizzard game designed that dark ranger tree
@waynealan3067
Ай бұрын
A blue haired leftist who think sylvanas is a republican created it. That’s literally how their designers think and how they view the world.
@NachoNDip
2 ай бұрын
How is it that they got Dark Ranger SO wrong??? There's so much inspiration to draw from, it's actually ridiculous. These hero talents are about dealing shadow damage but the only form of shadow damage outside of the tree is Wailing Arrow, and it's like never picked... First of all I would recommend making Wailing Arrow instant, a skill shot AND toggleable so we can detonate it mid air (basically the version they have in HotS). Second of all, let the hero talents have some interaction with Wailing Arrow, enticing us more to pick it up when we're playing a Dark Ranger build.
@Snipingisnothing
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Waiting for the rogue one 🙏
@johnnyvdoremalen
Ай бұрын
Dark Ranger is like giving a Warrior shadow damage and calling them a Death Knight.
@vvt17
2 ай бұрын
@Supatease Can you review the sentinel tree again? They heavily nerfed the lunar storm animation
@alancode2147
2 ай бұрын
Who's going to tell him that Tyrande is a priest? Also, they changed the animation lol. Him "here's an example of a good one". Blizzard "heard you loud and clear, time to screw it up! "
@Wellshem
2 ай бұрын
No, she's a Priestess of Elune. This order is both religious figure and warmaiden. They use bow, glaives and shields while being blessed by Elune which make them able to use the spell starfall from balance druid. They often ride white panther. Her being a priestess in game is just a gameplay simplification because they can't just create a new class for only one race.
@alancode2147
2 ай бұрын
@@Wellshem she's a mix of druid and priest, night elf priests used to have a lunar spell. She's most definitely not a hunter.
@ByRekon
2 ай бұрын
Never click a video this fast, please showcase survival hunter sentinel next, it looks really fun
@Weslicus
2 ай бұрын
Have to agree on the Dark Ranger analysis. Luckily this is one of the few hero talents that might actually get a second look because of the popularity of it.
@Monkeyjitzu
2 ай бұрын
Yo Supa can you do one on rogues? haven't see anyone yet! Apreciated!!
@goodkid91gunnarsson58
2 ай бұрын
We need that "lunar shower" for our starfall as moonkin looks way better xD
@invictus7736
2 ай бұрын
It's really weird that there isn't a single hero talent tree that has a gun theme considering that's half of hunter's identity
@kouvenom6740
2 ай бұрын
Packleader?
@JTD0101
2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Not sure why we need 2 out of 3 specs being heavily elf themed.
@Highhookmvp
2 ай бұрын
Hey man, long time lurker here since MoP, I just wanted to say thanks for putting ACTUAL EMPHASIS on class fantasy and how the new talent trees, abilities etc LOOK and FEEL, rather than just going full meta/fotm talking about nothing but numbers. Cheers :)
@kholio4377
2 ай бұрын
The utter car crash of missed thematic opportunity with Dark Ranger is beyond belief. I do not understand how literally nothing is any good in this. They have SYLVANAS and an absolute truck tonne of fan engagement to execute this. Far out. This is insane that it wasn’t a home run on delivery.
@jcemocion812
2 ай бұрын
make a video of the evoker augmentation
@marek8725
2 ай бұрын
tbh not everything needs to be flashy.. but yeah dark ranger looks meh atm
@TheDecitron
2 ай бұрын
Cannot believe it too so long for the first person to make a hunter hero talent video!
@jasonhendricks4562
2 ай бұрын
Missed opportunity to set up a shadow hunter spec for the trolls
@SSHayden
2 ай бұрын
Sentinel is very cool, but will look pretty stupid on non Nelf characters.
@AroundTheBlockGaming
2 ай бұрын
Another fix for MM would be to have a glyph to make sure Chimera shot always hit 1 target 2 times. Instead of potentially breaking CC in PVP. That, along with the magic damage being converted to shadow damage during black arrow window, and the visual to have 2 shadow chimera heads during the black arrow window.
@Bloodnickel1
2 ай бұрын
Hunters have always been extremely boring visually, hoping Blizz gives them some oomph with hero talents
@ramus9555
2 ай бұрын
10:42 when Elune knows you have a bad shoulder, so she continuesly bombards it at the exact same spot
@KisiroKitsune
2 ай бұрын
I do hope that they come in from different angles in the final release, like druids' starfall. Looks a bit silly all coming from the same spot right now.
@cc66bb44
2 ай бұрын
they missed out on a Maev hero spec and her best looking armor set
@IPlayVideoGamesAndNothingElse
Ай бұрын
If your a dark ranger they should have a passive that you proc of banshee’s wrath cloaking the character in shadow making all damage shadow damage for 18 seconds triples spell shadow visuals and applies shadow effect / damage on hell hounds and doubles spawn rate. Banshees wrath would have a 15 sec cooldown. Making later more geared characters have more up time on banshees wrath. Leech effect would be removed from the game and instead have banshees fury when multi-shot is used during banshees wrath the cone of shots narrows by 90% and get 10% increased damage stacking up to 3 times. This essentially turns multi-shot into a 12 gauge shotgun with shadow rounds doing up to 30% increased damage during banshees wrath. I think this idea makes your character more like sylvannas in visual and also allows for a burst window adding that visual flavor
@drummerguy438
2 ай бұрын
Sentinel is great. It’s a shame visually that it’s locked in for night elf, but I’m definitely considering survival hunter for the sake of moon knight fun times.
@kalleanka2796
2 ай бұрын
Yeah overall the hero talents visually are very underwhelming. They really should alter more of your rotational spells as well, if only just for the visuals. Like steady, aimed shot, rapid
@KisiroKitsune
2 ай бұрын
Back at Blizzcon they showed off how mountain thane warriors give all their abilities lightning visual effects and it was really cool. I hope most hero specs are still being worked on visually because none have come close to how that looks yet.
@rodriguesmelo444
2 ай бұрын
I just wanted them to bring back the sound of the classic weapons, the faith weapons now look like airsoft.
@BaconMaken
2 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see hunters getting more magic oriented attacks. Sure, we have arcane shot but that's about it. The return of black arrow is pretty awesome. But I'm leaning more towards the sentinel path. The abilities seem stronger and honestly it just looks way cooler.
@AroundTheBlockGaming
2 ай бұрын
Would be pretty cool for Black Arrow to make all damage shadow damage, and bypass armor while black arrow is up.
@UndeadR
2 ай бұрын
Effects of most spells should change depending of hero talent tree. For example, Volley should looks like star arrows as Sentinel and should looks like raining shadows as Dark Ranger. That would be cool and strong class fantasy!
@clinkinblah9107
2 ай бұрын
I was hoping for Dark Ranger talent to turn disengage into banshee thing from HOTS
@Jogga92
2 ай бұрын
Hope they change that shield on Sentinel tho, don’t really want to have that glowing mage shield on 24/7
@sdnw1840
2 ай бұрын
Dark Ranger should've been for SV not BM. Could've done way cooler things with the chains than just a little snare on disengage. Legit kinda sad about that.
@-ZeusLeague
2 ай бұрын
Both of them look and feel the same old hunter. Yes, arcane looks slightly better, but in no way does it look visually impressive. IMO, they completely missed the mark on both of them !
@Bryan-kq6xg
2 ай бұрын
I love the chains give me sylvanas vs bolvar vibes but you're right is a useless pasive, they should make it an active skill
@Makoneitor
2 ай бұрын
We need a pure sniper MM hunter style of gameplay :(
@danielsmith2483
2 ай бұрын
No....sniper shot is already a huge issue, this isn't call of duty
@Makoneitor
2 ай бұрын
@@danielsmith2483 really? I thought it was a CoD but with dragons, knights and magic. Thanks for the clarification, you are very intelligent
@raplexp
2 ай бұрын
Dark ranger needs an ability that follows a spell that has a chance to spawn a skeletal warrior to attack targets with the black arrow applied to them, or even spawn one for x amount of time off a target that dies under black arrow. Isnt that what the spell did in WC3?
@maruhto3508
2 ай бұрын
they *have* to add visuals for dark ranger.
@LastTryMedia
2 ай бұрын
Also, as an SV main I'm not exactly bowled over by the hero talents...
@KINGhotaru11
2 ай бұрын
Hunter hero talent is the blandest thing ive ever seen its like the devs said meh fuck it keep it the same lol
@j0hannes5
2 ай бұрын
Show the other hunter specs pls
@LastTryMedia
2 ай бұрын
Dark Arrow is literally the pre-melee SV hunter ability.
@ufade2
2 ай бұрын
Thanks supa!
@insulareshdxo9454
2 ай бұрын
Sentinel is like a hunter with moonkin powers
@FCBcubano
2 ай бұрын
I think survival should go back to the bow. Maybe some moves are melee with a side weapon of a dagger
@ronie619linas
2 ай бұрын
Imo survival should be a hybrid between melee and range, similar to how Druid of the Claw empowers different forms, survival melee attacks should empower ranged and vice versa. Also they should make dual wielding a thing, having Rexxar as talent background and not being able to replicate his fighting style is comical.
@tiger7634
Ай бұрын
Yeah wtf, i thought as dark ranger you could maybe transform into a banshie and maybe teleport like salvanas, ...all we get is a stupid arrow shot and a hound? I hope they update this...
@ookazzii
2 ай бұрын
hunter specs are still just stuck in BFA. they need massive reworks to all the specs baseline AND the hero trees
@placeholdername3206
2 ай бұрын
Hunter has always been a class that wasn't very flashy with the effects. Always been like that. This is a bit meh tho
@bubsenseijebe2993
2 ай бұрын
hunter is probably hard to make spell effects for without going over board and completely changing the class fantasy, but these both look underwhelming to me lol
@igorveloso100
2 ай бұрын
Hunter design has being absolutely dull since Legion. Cataclysm and Pandaria were peak WoW PvP. There's so much awesome stuff they can do and this is what they come up with.
@ourovermelho23
2 ай бұрын
Dang Supa they uptaded the videos and they look so sad now not even close as cool as before
@Complication84
2 ай бұрын
Looks like they just directly copied Sylvanas' kit from HotS. Which in HotS it is cool and fun to play. Where as in WoW it looks terrible and boring. Sentinel wins hands down.
@alexjansengaming2382
2 ай бұрын
What about Sentinel on survival hunter?
@dekkart9967
2 ай бұрын
Im still salty they chose "slayer" over blademaster in the warrior tree
@nostromorayzar8163
2 ай бұрын
When is this coming out?
@Supatease
2 ай бұрын
When the war within releases
@landofsyn2980
2 ай бұрын
Dark ranger.... no chance it's anything else from any class tbh 😂🎉
@Akihito_Kanbara
2 ай бұрын
Sentinel has made me actually want to finally level a hunter.
@Zerathenezot
2 ай бұрын
Hunter has always been screwed over. We get some of the lamest tier sets and now we get some of the weakest hero talents
@attinger117
2 ай бұрын
They both suck unless you like elves. I’ll be sticking with boring pack leader and just be happy I get a theme neutral option.
@betahumanx
2 ай бұрын
So you cannot choose a pack leader hero talents as MM?
@kaleoandros25
2 ай бұрын
Yes, you are locked into be discount Silvanas or be discount Tyrande from Warcraft 3.
@BaconMaken
2 ай бұрын
Pack master was pretty much only designed to work with beast mastery. You can pick it as survival as well but survival is hardly even worth playing.
@clinkinblah9107
2 ай бұрын
Why don't make sentinel being able to mount in combat or charger ability? And also summon nighelve riders with glaives.
@Phanski89
2 ай бұрын
Dark Ranger should be a SV option, its his OLD ability?? Sentinal should be renamed in passive damage tree / pack leader boring pet buff stuff
@kishin9
2 ай бұрын
Blizzard just doesn't care about the hunter class microsoft needs to restructure blizzard.
@Fydron
2 ай бұрын
Neither because i main Dwarf hunter and both of these options do not fit on anything else than elves.
@commracAlekk
2 ай бұрын
SENTINEL FOREVER! Tor ilisar'thera'nal!
@Gremlin9821
2 ай бұрын
All the Hunter types look like complete trash. It isn't just MM, it's SV and BM as well.
@jesuscollazo4303
2 ай бұрын
That’s why I gave up on Hunter I am playing paladin ret spec and holy
@Reimm2011
2 ай бұрын
man these are just sad, alongside no hunter talent tree rework has me thinking of just rerolling
@funmosquito8527
20 күн бұрын
wtf why i just cant be a bowman with basic arrows? why im forced to be magician with bow???
@kaleoandros25
2 ай бұрын
They never nail hunters, wtf is this? Hunters use guns, bows, and traps, marksmanship is the fantasy you should go.
@RudeReaper
2 ай бұрын
Lazy work blizzard. It's just more numbers on the screen
@landofsyn2980
2 ай бұрын
I'm sure you can do better... or have better ideas? Let me guess.... "I would make it more about class fantasy and not player power or button bloat" yea yea ... instead of just crying on a channel that ONLY makes retail content, why not provide real feed back lol.
@ashtarsheran749
2 ай бұрын
@@landofsyn2980 multimillion dollar company that can't even make proper skill visuals lol
@ronie619linas
2 ай бұрын
@@landofsyn2980they could change Arcane Shot/Cobra Shot to deal shadow damage for starters, instead of giving Aimed Shit/Barbed Shit resets from Black Arrow we should get a proc of Ranger Heartseeker, which instead resets your Rapid Fire/Kill Command and makes it deal shadow damage. We already have tier set that has a Double Tap Rapid Fire as a proc, this is not too much to ask. Remove dogs, they make no sense for MM, fix chain animation it looks awkward, change fckin Turtle into Shroud or something. There's million things they could do to make class fantasy more enjoyable.
@RudeReaper
2 ай бұрын
@landofsyn2980 actually i do working on a video 🤝
@vadyazmey
2 ай бұрын
Hunter there. Gaining a charge of aimed/barbed is absolutley useless in pvp, coz you get 2 charges of aimed anyway and never spend em, and return 2 barbed after bestial wrath. Some pve vibes. Why cant they return kill shot arrow from shadowlands? Boomkins not the only one who struggle with new talents, Supa) Sentinel looks more interesting. I also dont get why mages can take gravity laps (which is basicly 30 sec stun where u can sheep) and other classes dont get any new cc? Also what about bm and surv, and bestial tree.
@eltonazevedo1361
2 ай бұрын
put black arrow like it use to be in survival specc in MoP rpve specc. where black arrow had the chance in their DoT damage to reset explosive shot. and make Black arrow be 100% up time on target... or else no one will ever even chose that! i even wonder if u playing with lone wolf talent on MM specc. if u call a shadow hound, if he will remove the lone wolf buff because he counts as a summoning pet! i bet blizzard will never think about this one
@jesuscollazo4303
2 ай бұрын
Right half assed dark ranger
@noaboa5670
2 ай бұрын
Trade off for sniper shot hitting over a million on live 😂
@drewwil891
2 ай бұрын
Going dark ranger all the way
@vincenthammons-kd9du
Ай бұрын
what did you expect from blizzard tho lol
@Gikaser
2 ай бұрын
Holly fuck, dark ranger is so dissappointing…
@ddenozor
2 ай бұрын
Hunter is such a boring class fantasy, anything that makes it look like something else immediately becomes so cool.
@alexandercanizares8955
2 ай бұрын
im going sentinel for my Night elf
@lukesheridan439
2 ай бұрын
MM needs a Ret-level or more re-work. They need to get away from spamming aimed shot and consider what a 'Ranger' fantasy could look like. There's nothing appealing about the current MM and it's class fantasy. Mechanically it feels dated, and the hero trees are not enough to fix this. Dark Ranger in particular is very, very disappointing.
@StaunchezMcDooglez
2 ай бұрын
This is ALPHA people!! Blizz said many abilities are placeholders still. Jesus
@clinkinblah9107
2 ай бұрын
Blizz only care about tunnel melees
@rezzyn94
2 ай бұрын
Hero talents are already my least favorite thing of the expansion lol I hate to be negative but I feel like we’ve seen enough over the years to know that it will be a complete mess trying to balance all this. We’ll end up with one that’s clearly better and that’s what everyone will expect you to run. I wish the hero talents were just visuals only ex: Make rain of arrows look more shadowey (is that a word?) for Dark Ranger or more Sentinel flavored. Same with Aimed Shot and any other spell really. That way you could just focus on the aesthetic of the fantasy theme you choose but still play the same class. WoW was better when it was a bit more simple
@Bummul
2 ай бұрын
Is this really everything for hunters and hero talents? Is this literally it Blizzard, is this why I pay you money? This is quite shameful and the person who made this should feel bad about it.
@roberthidalgo7817
2 ай бұрын
sheesh, they could have just copied. Wow, ascension dark ranger spells would have been cooler than this ....
@bi0lizard1
2 ай бұрын
Great… more powerful hunters. Just what PvP needs.
@MianMianGaming
2 ай бұрын
mirana new persona🦝
@Urgot-BlackPill
2 ай бұрын
None, they bot sucks... Wheres is head hunter? Scout? Spear throw? They give two low testosterone elf spec.... And pack leader is horrible, no rexxar this time. ..reroll
@anantisocialsinsight
Ай бұрын
What a fucking L. I’ve only been playing WoW for two months and I already want to quit.
@TRGoon
2 ай бұрын
Booth lame 😢
@bryanredhair3706
Ай бұрын
😞 gimmics. No real power or differentiation. Okay kids, here's some weak sauce "see you got something" garbage. Dark Ranger had so much potential and Sentinel did as well. Then the Blizzard/Activision abomination with some Microsoft bad touch got their hands on them. Different expansion, same trash.
@taden2007
2 ай бұрын
Dark ranger one is crap.. wow, if ur a designer for this shame on u,.. like wtf.
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