“Let’s end the debate” proceeds to do the exact opposite
@user-vr5zk9ox8d
Жыл бұрын
It’s still ended … He said they are equal, so the victor would be determined by battle conditions … Like if Malgus has the high ground 🤭
@elminatorx-2560
Жыл бұрын
@@user-vr5zk9ox8d High Ground+FORCE lightning
@calvinjohnson4776
Жыл бұрын
I mean if its legends Vader though? He literally became so powerful at one point he toke off his suit.
@iron-gato225
Жыл бұрын
@@calvinjohnson4776 It's on a book? How is it called?
@calvinjohnson4776
Жыл бұрын
@@iron-gato225 I don't know how it was called nor what it was called. It's in the star wars comics.
@kb-verse
8 ай бұрын
malgus is badass, but if we’re talking novels/comics vader he’s destroying malgus, this man tore open a rift in reality with his bare hands, he lifted the veil between the living and the dead, he survived an orbital bombardment, he’s pretty much done everything and people always seem to think vader is extremely vulnerable to force lightning, that’s not entirely true first off he’s been struck with it multiple times, but he can still fight on despite his suit being damaged for a decent while, palpatine’s lightning affects him so much bc he’s been stated and proven to have the most potent force lightning of all the sith (aside from the brother, but he’s not exactly a sith) second, it’s actually fairly easy to block force lightning, all you need is a lightsaber tbh, not to mention vader mastered the same technique yoda used to redirect force lightning, so really he’s not as vulnerable as people think he is
@mr.cookiecutter
11 ай бұрын
Malgus honestly would have been the perfect master for Vader. I truly think he would have pushed to help Vader reach his full potential, and the two would truly remake the galaxy. Unlike Sidious who only saw Vader as a tool. I also think that Vader wouldn't be inclined to betray Malgus, as the two would have an understanding of each other due to their similar situations and mindsets.
@user-uc7qb1su4e
9 ай бұрын
Sidious was the perfect storm to become powerful tho
@mr.cookiecutter
9 ай бұрын
@@user-uc7qb1su4e huh? Sidious was a storm to become powerful? Can you explain what you mean?
@user-uc7qb1su4e
9 ай бұрын
@@mr.cookiecutter he was the perfect blend of natural raw power in the force, sheer charisma, intelligence, not being willing to follow rules that previous Sith had, and disregarding the rule of two because he was so opportunistic that he wanted himself to rule forever rather than being taken over by his apprentice like previous Sith.
@mr.cookiecutter
9 ай бұрын
@@user-uc7qb1su4e yes, I know all of that. What's your point?
@pelusam79
8 ай бұрын
Just imagine if malgus would have trained starkiller 💀💀💀
@darthcaedus744
Жыл бұрын
I think Malgus isn't pure evil, but he have better mindset.
@darthcaedus744
Жыл бұрын
@SithtariEditz oh, that was horrible, but I ever heard that he regret of this.
@SaariumDeta
Жыл бұрын
He's definitely pure evil. He completely abides by the sith code
@que-gl2ze
Жыл бұрын
Malgus is pure evil
@darthcaedus744
Жыл бұрын
@@que-gl2ze oh, yeah, but he is my hero!
@user-ud6nk4jm5x
Жыл бұрын
If Malgus isnt pure evil then vader is an angel compared to him. By the way in ROTS after the assassination of the separatist leaders Ankin-Vader was standing on the platform and shading tears, cuz he was sorry for turning to the dark side, deep inside he never wanted to go that way, and he hated himself after turning into Vader we know.
@diedeutschesoldaten3969
Жыл бұрын
I will always stay with my Lord Magus in the name of the Sith Empire.
@DarthRinzler
Жыл бұрын
Vader claps
@diedeutschesoldaten3969
Жыл бұрын
@@DarthRinzler yeah, he has only 5000 years of technology more than Malgus and he was even Vader's hero💀🚩
@DarthMar
Жыл бұрын
@@DarthRinzler I know this is going to sound hypocritical but says the guy with a anakin pfp
@T1Top
Жыл бұрын
@Billion Headz Doesn't mean He's better then Vader. Vader will always best Malgus. Old Republic fan made Comics are just stupid asf. I could make a much official powerful character then Fp Anakin and luke combined. Old Republic characters are wack cause of how powerful they are shown in almost every single sith. This is why the new sith and jedi are better cause they have there strength and weaknesses. Not just OP. It's more realistic
@DarthMar
Жыл бұрын
@@T1Top what on earth are you talking about
@ForceUserNegs
Жыл бұрын
finally someone knows who is legends malgus new sub
@igornagonski8215
7 ай бұрын
Not true you fanboy
@2papp133
Жыл бұрын
i think you are the first guy that explains why who whins. gigachad here
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
Not first, but thank you
@AMINBEY777
Жыл бұрын
Yes the first
@Alphaj0r
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user Bro why do you take so many L's? Strength:Vader via force enhance and being above maul who could tear apart blast doors Durability:Tanked starkiller force lighting for a while, starkiller force lighting could rip in two a star destroyer by powering the reactors with his lighting Speed:C'mon....vader jumped over a blaster after it was shot at less than one meter than him(Blasters are FTL) Iq:Vader...is obvious Battle iq:Obviously vader Force power:Vader>>>anakin>>>>rots sidious who could shake stars... Force knowledge:Vader, he studied darth bane's knowledge that had almost infinite knowledge about the dark side Hax:Vader has sub-atomic manipulation, evaporization, Kinetite(variant of force lighting) Stamina:Vader duh.... Endurance:Vader literally was burned to almost death after being cut down by obi wan, i would like to see darth malgus taking that Reaction speed:Scales above anakin, obi wan and mace windu who can react to hyperspace i have scans for all of that
@penguinsociety704
Жыл бұрын
@@Alphaj0r someones a vader fanboy
@Kokushibouppermoon1-uv2
11 ай бұрын
@@Alphaj0rmesa See's Vader and star killer as meat ants compared to mesas power
@15thdoctor40
Жыл бұрын
I agree, they are very even, but ultimately, Sith are truly free in the Old Republic while the restraint and secretive nature of the Imperial Sith were a weakness which might give Malgus an advantage. Edit: You guys needa take a chill pill in the comments section. I never even argued that Malgus would definitively win. All I argued was that Vader’s identity as a Sith Lord was hidden, not that he himself was hidden. Still prolly a 50/50 split for me tho
@Captaindark900
Жыл бұрын
Yes but vader was never hidden.
@fjreyna4100
Жыл бұрын
@@Captaindark900 But malgus himself killed way more jedi than vader and he personal lead the attack on the Jedi Temple
@Captaindark900
Жыл бұрын
@@fjreyna4100 never said he didnt. but vader also led the attack on the jedi temple.
@martinsoukup562
11 ай бұрын
@@fjreyna4100 where did you get Malugs killed more Jedi?
@zaiken639
11 ай бұрын
@martinsoukup562 he's right Malgus did kill more Jedi then Vader cause remember he was born to kill Jedi and Vader wasn't
@Sweetness71775
Жыл бұрын
If Vader can find a way to block/deflect/defeat Malgus' Lightning, 55/45, Vader. If not, Vader is fucked.
@INTJ10551
Жыл бұрын
Vader could just block it with his lightsaber. I don’t think it’ll be an easy block though. Malgus is a quick fighter. I somehow see Vader coming out victorious in the end, but barely.
@unkown981
Жыл бұрын
@@INTJ10551 vader cant use lightning at the risk of him getting himself killed so he cant block with lightning and cant tank lightning from others he has to dodge
@carlactus5870
Жыл бұрын
Vader have tutaminis and hid lightsaber for that
@drsizla1946
Жыл бұрын
Vader most likely wouldn't use his lightsaber because the after effects of hitting lightsaber which was electrified by force lightning is a repulse of lightning, electrocuting both Malgus and himself. Instead he'd most likely exhibit the tactic of force deflect, deflecting the lightning with the whim of his hand forth.
@TY-km8hj
Жыл бұрын
@@carlactus5870 he has tutiminis for blaster bolts but he never learned to catch force lightning and im not so sure he could since he didn't have organic tissue for limbs anmlymore so they'd just conduct it
@DarthKrayt-wf3vd
11 ай бұрын
"The test isn't difficult." The test:
@kysoneilers4892
Жыл бұрын
Battle IQ would go to malgus, the dude was arguably the best battlefield commander of the whole war and led some of the empires best campaigns to victory, and saw more combat and battles than anakin and vader combined, I mean, the dude was a commander in a 30 year war, anakin was a general for 3
@vincent-lm8sv
Жыл бұрын
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@darksword67
6 ай бұрын
I would have to disagree with that statement because of the fact that Anakin was born in slavery purely of the force itself making him more of akin to a force entity than even a Sith Lord meaning with all of his innate Talent as well as battle Ackerman being trained from the Jedi Temple at a very young age and spent his entire life at War he could definitely give Malgus a run for his money if not outright kill him in Rage because he still has revenge to live for he still hasn't finished off his master Obi-Wan Kenobi which means he would have unfinished business which would push him to Victory he would not let Malgus kill him under any circumstances
@confusenconquer
5 ай бұрын
@@darksword67malgus is a better duelist than vader, but vader is force user the malgus but malgus would win do to his experience of fighting alone and leading his army and he would definitely cheat to beat vader 😂
@Xekuter69
Ай бұрын
@@confusenconquerno Vader mastered all 7 forms and built a hybrid dueling style based off form 5 djem so with some maskashi
@rubendelgado2682
8 күн бұрын
I guess you must’ve forgotten the additional 23 years that Vader spent as second in command of an entire empire during a galactic civil war, huh dummy?
@das_scharfe_s3921
Жыл бұрын
Great versus. Balanced and fair. The choice of music is also perfect.
@lucschraen7929
Жыл бұрын
The Music is french (im french) just the vibe is cool, but the lyrics have nothing to do, out of context. Sound : « Indila » « dernière danse »
@lucschraen7929
Жыл бұрын
Just apart from the feeling of indecision
@j-dawg4774
Жыл бұрын
Sidious nerfed the hell out of Vader so much that he's extremely vulnerable to force lightning, that and he doesn't have a proper functioning respiratory system, Malgus could wear him down with his aggression, speed, and force techniques.
@lucabestea6844
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, and I doubt Vader could defend himself against a Force Maestrom.
@martinsoukup562
11 ай бұрын
He was so extremely vulnerable to force lighting that he could tank it for long enough to kill Palpatine while others would just insta die...
@j-dawg4774
11 ай бұрын
@@martinsoukup562 *Luke tanking the full force of his lightning for 10 solid seconds while Vader dies from a few seconds of exposure*
@martinsoukup562
11 ай бұрын
@@j-dawg4774 Yes because Luke is known to be super weak in the force. He was so weak that he just became the strongest force wielder ever. Also from the scene, I would say it's kinda of obvious that Palpatine was torturing him.
@j-dawg4774
11 ай бұрын
@@martinsoukup562 But he lets out the "full force of his lightning" when he gets hoisted into the air. Also Sidious had full intentions of ending Luke's life right there, Luke being one of the best force users had nothing to do with his durability. It's clearly stated that Vader's suit was intended to be weaker to force lightning by Sidious.
@emreceylan2072
2 ай бұрын
They have the same stories, they're like lost brothers
@liam4295
Жыл бұрын
Malgus isn't limited like Vader. I'm not just talking about his cybernetics, I'm talking about his emotional limitations. In the early days of the sith empire, Malgus was limited by his emotional connection to his love interest. He knew that his lover was his weakness and that if he was to truly become a Sith and a conqueror he would need to "Break his chains" or his limitations. This would mean killing his lover. After killing the woman he loved he gained a level of focus that Vader could never conjure. Vader was always attached to Padme, he could never separate his old life from his current one. In some parts of Vaders mind, Anakin lived on. This is why Malgus will almost always beat Vader, he has complete control over the darkside. Whereas Vader is being controlled by the Darkside.
@TY-km8hj
Жыл бұрын
Well said and is pretty much my reasoning as to why malgus would win. They're the same in so many ways thousands of yrs apart but the difference was their approach. Malgus embraced her death and devoted himself the dark side and the sith, whereas vader hated himself and devoted himself to his own pain which did make him powerful but capped his overall potential as a sith massively
@HaroonKhan-wd2dz
Жыл бұрын
You’re both morons
@OkIPullUp2915
Жыл бұрын
@@HaroonKhan-wd2dz you’re just mad malgus wins 🤷♂️
@W_paradoxs
Жыл бұрын
Full fax
@SupSucka
Жыл бұрын
bro.. this was powerful. You made absolute complete sense on this. Respect💯
@gabrijelbosnjak8196
Жыл бұрын
Let's fix this Darth Vader (Legends) Vs Darth Malgus (Legends) Strength-Vader (his strength is stated to be over Low-Outversal, can lift around 20 tons without the Force, with the Force he once threw a literal Moon) Speed-Malgus (Altough Vader moves at light speed with Force speed he is still somewhat hindered) Durability-Vader (his durability is stated to be over Low-Outversal fell from a nearby Moon to planet Jekara and survived with no injuries, survived not being desintegrated also unharmed, survived a blast equivalent to Death Star Superlaser that can destroy multiple planets) Agility-Malgus Stamina-both Endurance-both Iq-Vader Intelligence-Vader Knowledge-Vader Force Knowledge-Vader Sith Alchemy-Vader (Sidious tought him) Training-Vader Biq-Vader (Clone General and Sith Lord) Experiance-Malgus Battle Exp-both Skill-Vader (proficient in killing Jedi, fought 8 of them at once) Weapon-Vader (his Lightsaber burns 6 times hotter than the Sun while the normal one burns 4 times hotter, also Vader modified his Lightsaber so he can adjust the length of the blade) Defense-Malgus (From what I have seen Malgus tends to use defense a bit more than Vader) Offense-Vader (He was the best Master of Form V to ever exist) Dueling-Vader (Mastered all forms, created his own, it was still a Form V but with some upgrades from every other form) Lightsaber form-Vader (same explaination) Combat-both (combine Force Power with their dueling skills) Combat speed-Malgus Reaction speed-Vader (380 mach, dodged a blaster from an X-Wing) Force Power-Darth Vader (The Chosen One, has the most midichlorians, 27000 per cell) Force abilities-Both (they both have so many abilities, altough Malgus has Maelstrom and Force Lightening, Vader has Focused Rage and Force Schockwave, basically same level) AP-Vader DC-Vader (more power equals more destructive capability, especially with those abilities) Hax-Vader (Obviously) Versatility-Malgus Feats-Vader (Killed an Ender, destroyed the Jedi Order, killed billions of living beings including hundreds of Jedi, became the most feared and the most powerful Sith Lord to exist ever, surpassed Sidious) Darth Vader wins mid difficulty, Darth Vader has the advantages over Revan, Nihilus, Sidious, Vitiate and other Sith who can beat Malgus, it was even said that Vader scales higher than any other Sith Darth Vader>Darth Sidious>Darth Vitiate>Darth Revan>Darth Nihilus (almost useless without Force drain)...
@thuikippl5034
Жыл бұрын
'Any other sith' the levels of power get absurd post ROTJ in Legends at least so he defo is below Caedus imo but sure mate
@xxcoltonxx2540
Жыл бұрын
This is literally the closest a battle can be in star wars
@oliversawyer8858
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I’d say malgus and Darth Vader are more or less the same person
@jedirevan3628
Жыл бұрын
Girls in Paris :🧚♀️💃 Boys in Paris:
@sproxsprox595
10 ай бұрын
Wait, who was in Paris? 🤔
@otsutsukigod1189
9 ай бұрын
@@sproxsprox595Austrian painter
@sproxsprox595
9 ай бұрын
@@otsutsukigod1189 fax
@litebluwulf
Жыл бұрын
So malgus not only lived longer, he fought more fearsome and lengthy wars against a militarized jedi order, so he would definitely win in experience
@Tempelers
Жыл бұрын
I think if they fought, they would both definitely die, but Malgus has better augments and such. Though, since this Legends Vader has gone up against several high ranking Jedi Masters. Though, I think Malgus going toe to toe with Shan is also remarkable. Though, Malgus is an amazing strategist due to the fact he switches sides several times. Malgus was also able to strategize with the Mandalorians to destroy Coruscant and wipe out a good chunk of the many Jedi back then.
@drsizla1946
Жыл бұрын
" Amazing Strategist ", because he switched sides how much?.. A ton. That means nothing. Now then you're saying that Malgus from the Old Republic has better augments that the future Galactic Empire and Vader?.. Kinda flawed but okay. And once again Vader simply executed the whole entire JEDI ORDER... with a few platoons of 501st, himself without planning it. Once more he was taking ROWS.. and ROWS of jedi by himself.
@liam4295
Жыл бұрын
@@drsizla1946 Malgus was no where near as limited as Vader was in terms of augmentation. While no one can definitively prove the quality of the cybernetics, I think we can all agree that Malgus has better mobility and control over his own body than Vader. And, "A few platoons"? He had the entirety of the 501st Legion, not to mention the Coruscant Guard and the defense corps on world. Sure, doesn't look like a lot when the 501st are walking up the temple stairs but we know that more 501st poured into the temple as the battle went on. We have plenty of sources, most notably battlefront 2 (2005) "The 501st journal". Malgus only had a few Sith acolytes and warriors with him. If you watch the cinematic, you can see the sith getting bodied left and right, definitely not quality fighters. Despite that, I'd say Malgus and Vader had incredibly similar performance in their raids, respectively. They both killed the most skilled saber master present then proceeded to take out the more proficient fighters before taking out the weaker jedi. We also need to recognize that Malgus was not trying to "wipe out" the Jedi order, he was sending a message to the republic. It ultimately worked as the senate immediately questioned the Jedi's ability to protect them. In terms of the strategy debate, I don't really no what to say. I'd probably give that to Vader considering he was incharge of the 501st Legion during the Clone Wars and had to deal with lots of planning and battle strategy whereas Malgus basically just rushed into his fights hoping that brute force would win him the day.
@The-Allfather-Odin
Жыл бұрын
Malgus wins mid-high diff Speed: His speed was such that a normal human found it difficult to watch his movement in his duels. Dueling: Defeated many strong jedi and sith using only his lightsaber. (Example: He defeated the jedi master Ven Zallow in a short but ferocious duel. Zallow was often regarded as one of the greatest duelist's in the entire jedi order of his time. Feats: Sacked the jedi temple with brute strength alone. Jedi grand master Satele Shan stated that Malgus was the most dangerous embodiment of the dark side she had ever experienced. Malgus was one of darth Sidious greatest idols. Force: Dark rage is a power that allows a force user to increase his strength, speed, recilliency and resolve. Force protection is a passive (and sometimes active) enhancement of a force sensetive's durability to varying superhuman degrees. Force speed is a passive (and sometimes active enhancement of a force sensetive's speed to varying superhuman degrees
@maedus_
Жыл бұрын
it was staed that new sith are stronger than old sith even TPM Maul is stated above and it is also stated that siths are getting stronger by each generation in Canon and EU plus vader has way better feats who already put him above Malgus
@The-Allfather-Odin
Жыл бұрын
@@maedus_Malgus is as powerful if not more powerful than Vitiate. Vitiate>Malgus>Sidious>Vader
@martinsoukup562
11 ай бұрын
@@The-Allfather-OdinLMAO putting Malgus over Sidious. Sidious is the strongest Sith to ever live by far.
@martinsoukup562
11 ай бұрын
@@The-Allfather-Odin"Speed: His speed was such that a normal human found it difficult to watch his movement in his duels." That's literally nothing unexpected. It's super common for many main characters. "Dueling: Defeated many strong jedi and sith using only his lightsaber. (Example: He defeated the jedi master Ven Zallow in a short but ferocious duel. Zallow was often regarded as one of the greatest duelist's in the entire jedi order of his time." Oh, too bad Vader doesn't have any feats regarding defeating Jedi. Oh, wait! "Feats: Sacked the jedi temple with brute strength alone. Jedi grand master Satele Shan stated that Malgus was the most dangerous embodiment of the dark side she had ever experienced. Malgus was one of darth Sidious greatest idols." Source? "Force: Dark rage is a power that allows a force user to increase his strength, speed, recilliency and resolve. Force protection is a passive (and sometimes active) enhancement of a force sensetive's durability to varying superhuman degrees. Force speed is a passive (and sometimes active enhancement of a force sensetive's speed to varying superhuman degrees" Passive lmao. Also again super common.
@ShadowChaser246
10 ай бұрын
@@martinsoukup562 Sidious is not the most powerful Sith ever he got freaking yeeted off the reactor shaft how is he the most powerful ever lmao the old sith would laugh at him ngl
@2kx62
Жыл бұрын
This fight would probably be like the mustafar battle where ur not sure who would really win and it’s 50/50
@lililiil244
Жыл бұрын
I strongly believe Vader will eventually take the upper hand and win. With High difficulty though.
@Soul_Of_Revan
Жыл бұрын
Malgus with his strength and powerful strikes will wear his guard down and use lightning on him which will weaken him to the point where he is clearly finished
@jamiep4674
Жыл бұрын
No chance, Malgus stomps.
@rhuttner12
10 ай бұрын
@@Soul_Of_RevanMalgus has no strength feats, that would give reason, to believe he could overpower Vader
@Officerwarzone
Жыл бұрын
I’m just happy that someone is using a different song for this edit
@JohnnyJetpack
Жыл бұрын
Malgus has lightning and Vader's suit is vulnerable to it, a few precise attacks with it will leave Vader's suit severely damaged giving Malgus huge advantage.
@oguzgurses9775
Жыл бұрын
His lightning is not strong like palpatines he can block it
@DarkKnight-yy7yj
5 ай бұрын
Considering that Malgus has a more aggressive fighting style and even outmatched more experienced jedi and Vader relies mostly on using his surroundings and it doesn't take a lot to disable his suit, I'd give it to Malgus.
@rednecksniper4715
5 ай бұрын
Malgus wins because he has force lightning. Also Palpatine respected Malgus so much he wanted Vader to basically become Malgus so he gifted him Malgus’ journal
@SeigneurVador-ms1bq
Жыл бұрын
A live action battle would be crazy Imo Malgus wins
@T1Top
Жыл бұрын
It’s always the Vader PFP Whimps that say the opposite, if you put ROTJ Luke vs Vader (conflicted). they will say Luke negs, most dumbass fans I’ve ever seen and Vader is a badass, these type of fans should never support the most iconic villain, it’s an insult to himself. Go support Rey
@INTJ10551
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think he’ll be able to beat Vader.
@xSHREYxFN
11 ай бұрын
Trash opinion.
@jordankairos
11 ай бұрын
@@INTJ10551logically, malgus wins since he has force lightning. and is faster, much more aggressive, much more fueled with hate, and unlike vader he uses his whole body as a weapon like kicks, elbows, grapples, tackles, etc.
@martinsoukup562
11 ай бұрын
@@jordankairos logically you dont know legends.
@bdantsalberta
10 ай бұрын
Dude great edit!
@Paarthunaxx892
Жыл бұрын
Malgus also survived being crushed by a multi hundred pound rock
@main1033
Жыл бұрын
He survived, got up and literally fought some Jedi right after being crushed by the rock.
@justanotherweeb7403
10 ай бұрын
More like he was smashed into the side of a large cliff, got out of 1000s of pounds of rock and decided the Republic needed to burn
@kb-verse
8 ай бұрын
and vader survived an orbital bombardment on mon cala, what’s your point?
@Paarthunaxx892
8 ай бұрын
@@kb-verse oh my bad a he was crushed by a mountain a building and a bomb exploded in his face if that happened to any form of Vader(except dark demensions) he would die he damn near died to fire
@Paarthunaxx892
8 ай бұрын
Oh yeah not to mention fought Jedi(masters I believe) and still almost beat them what’s your point
@sourswift
Жыл бұрын
Vader legends is one of the strongest force users ever, I don’t like this style of “1v1” because it doesn’t always apply or make sense In short I think Vader would win but it would be very close
@_sm1leyface_
Жыл бұрын
I really like that you put a lot of effort on every video!Amazing dude,keep going!
@outverse_edits
10 ай бұрын
Yes I strongly agree with you if 2 characters whose levels are absolutely the same finding winner depends on location and battle ground
@eddieolivas4804
10 ай бұрын
I still think Darth Malgus would win since he’s pretty much Darth Vader but more powerful.
@soultacer2723
11 ай бұрын
They're also sort of equally broken. We all know about the tragedy of Darth Vader, but Darth Malgus actually was a lot more level-headed when his wife was around. After realising that she was an anchor, in a fit of rage Malgus killed her to make sure he never would turn to the light side, and he regretted that decision for the rest of his life
@kratosphantom
Жыл бұрын
Malgus killed several masters, the battlemaster of the jedi, and killed alot during his time. The only master Vader killed was the instructor/battlemaster and an shaak ti.
@MonkeMaze
4 ай бұрын
"We are mere children with toys compared to the ancient masters." Can't be comparing such different eras, both were strong in their own league but malgus is on a higher level than any of the canon sith.
@kianvandenberg6364
4 ай бұрын
Malgus was born long after the death of Kreia, so no point in using that quote
@mobiletaskforce_1d129
9 ай бұрын
Darth Vader is limited by his suit and his lack of limbs, which causes him to lose, it is a theory that his force abilities are diminished because of his condition from obi wan, the lava and the count. Also his suit makes him vulnerable to force lightning
@zaiken639
11 ай бұрын
finally someone that doesn't overrate Vader
@Bluesonofman
2 ай бұрын
Vader basically lost 50% of his power on mustifar. Meanwhile Melgus is a beast that keeps coming back.
@Ghostkillaz
6 ай бұрын
I think the one thing that tips this battle into malgus' favour is the fact he can use force lightning, and seems to be pretty strong with it, which is a big downside for vader as his suit is veerrrrryyy vulnerable to force lightning
@pelusam79
8 ай бұрын
To be fair malgus was based of darth vader and thats very clear on the design, its only natural for them to be equals
@ComicalT-34
11 ай бұрын
Can you do Darth vader versus Darth Bane
@chuckwolis0727
Жыл бұрын
Fax it is literally when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object they both were the ones to finally get revenge on the Jedi in their eras and both sustained critical injuries to there fiscal bodies. Vader vs Malgus would truly be the battle of the century…
@The-Allfather-Odin
2 ай бұрын
Vaders power stays the same after his battle on mustafar. Malgus only grows in power.
@TheBitingBat
2 ай бұрын
I think Vader's monstrous force power and cold calculating mind give him the edge. Its close tho and Malgus was one of the most powerful sith of the old Republic era.
@acegabrielcruz3687
2 күн бұрын
Well they cannot defeat Vader its stated that Legends Maul is stronger than the sith of old and Legends Maul is stronger than Plagueis while being Weaker than count Dooku who scales below Darth Vader
@vegatron276
Жыл бұрын
Very surprised that Vader didn't get a clear victory. That's refreshing. Malgus is my favorite Sith, hands down. 2 things Vader, most likely, has the advantage is his dueling and force power. Every other category, in my opinion, they are either equal or Malgus takes it.
@sterben7401
Жыл бұрын
Malgus was very tall and heavily built, and only had a breathing valve of prosthetics, Vader was missing 50 percent of his body, and his strength was clearly less. And Malgus has more experience, he attacked the Jedi temple in 1 day in a frontal attack
@drsizla1946
Жыл бұрын
Didn't Palpatine just order Anakin to seize the temple with a few platoons of clone troopers(501st) and himself. I must say that he executed almost everyone effortlessly without prior planning. Again Vader has shown to exhibit feats of running, walking and fighting without his prosthetics.
@TY-km8hj
Жыл бұрын
@@drsizla1946 anakin did it very well but I must say that malgus feat could be slightly more impressive since the jedi order of that time had been battle hardened for decades in their war with the sith and again against literal sith warriors, whereas the jedi of the prequels were neutered in comparison thrown into a 3 yr war many weren't prepared for and by the time of the attack on the temple it was mostly filled with younglings, padawans, old masters or very young knights
@main1033
Жыл бұрын
@@drsizla1946 Yea the place was guarded by two Jedi trainers and a bunch of kids. The Jedi order in the old republic were guarded by a war ready Jedi order with Jedi who had cybernetic implants and armor. Malgus did bring some sith warriors with him and a Mandalorian commando so that should be taken into consideration.
@jake_the_dogg
Жыл бұрын
@@TY-km8hjbesides, the order already knew about the arrival of Malgus
@absoluto3038
Жыл бұрын
An extremely good edit
@DarthKrayt-wf3vd
11 ай бұрын
Darth Vader in Legends could be a great threat for Master Yoda. The same thing with Darth Malgus. Well, if Darth Vader gets hatred enough, then he would destroy Darth Malgus. If Darth Malgus use his "mini Force storms" (I don't remember the name of the Force abillity), then Malgus could win with extreme diff or can go other way. If you are using Oneness Malgus, then Vader can't do nothing.
@LeonSKennedy-o2m
9 ай бұрын
Darth Vader bullies.
@smaug7221
11 ай бұрын
I would say darth vader wins because his and palpatine’s knowledge transcends sith knowledge so they know all about the Darkside and more putting them at a higher power level.
@nightwing5740
7 ай бұрын
I would say Malgus takes feats given he sacked the Jedi Temple with brute force and not by major tricks like Vader
@user-di8bi2nf8k
2 ай бұрын
Мы можем не разделять мнение автора, но согласитесь, эдит классный 👍
@superomarthekingv1.2
10 ай бұрын
Song is derniere danse for anyone wondering
@trex7115
2 ай бұрын
Malgus is the coolest SW character ever. He’s the only force user that does not feel goofy or nerdy. He’s more like a space Ronin.
@scorchingradiance7605
Жыл бұрын
fax people rlly underrated malgus and/or overestimate vader, malgus may win because of force lightning it counters vader pretty well
@drsizla1946
Жыл бұрын
Oh god bro, Vader just uses force shield or force deflect end of story.
@scorchingradiance7605
Жыл бұрын
@@drsizla1946 and these r the types of simpletons who say vader wins
@InfernoVerse975
Жыл бұрын
If he put AP or Reaction Speed as a point then the debate would have ended, but for now the debate only relies on the battle conditions.
@serarthurdayne4259
Жыл бұрын
Song name pls 🙏
@HighGroundKenobisolosStarWars
Ай бұрын
Dernière danse by Indila@@serarthurdayne4259
@SherlockSMasters
7 ай бұрын
I mean they both had same thing in common... Had a romance with someone but were killed later... Had face mask... Likely same armor... And most importantly... They both bald...
@bestintheworld568
10 ай бұрын
I'd give Malgus the knowledge point. He's extremely knowledgeable of Sith and Jedi history and actively seeks to learn about it to gain power.
@dragonlord498
3 ай бұрын
one thing i would point out though is malgus mainly fought and killed warrior jedi where vader came from a era most jedi were scholars and had become very complacent due to 1000 years of peace so even the warrior jedi tended to have lessened in quality. but overall i do think though overall its probably one of the most accurate and fair judging of the two i've come if not taking the differences between their eras into consideration.
@SithEmpireV08
Жыл бұрын
W edit I think malgus and Vader are equal but what if Vader fought nihilus or Reven? Even though reven is vader's ancestor
@brentlavin2031
Жыл бұрын
What song is this? It sounds amazing!
@HighGroundKenobisolosStarWars
10 ай бұрын
Dernière danse slowed Indila
@markkuijpers3818
Күн бұрын
Vader is psychologically extremely fragile. In a confrontation between him and an intelligent, relatively stable enemy near his power level, he will lose most every time These categories just don't offset weakness of that magnitude
@Thegrey2738
Жыл бұрын
im surprised that you use shotcut also this is fax asf
@darkmetalgamers8139
18 күн бұрын
Both greatest sith of their era❤❤❤
@katarn0329
11 ай бұрын
Malgus Killed more Jedi Than Vader did.1,000 years before Anikan was even Born.😊
@thatwasoutofbounds
Жыл бұрын
Darth Vader 👇
@FrostByte_06
5 ай бұрын
Even lukas said ancient sith lords were stronger than new ones like palpatine and vader. So no malgus negs.
@thatwasoutofbounds
5 ай бұрын
@@FrostByte_06 good point, but Vaders experience with the light and the dark out ways Malgus. Vader is one of the only Sith Lords in his generation that is able to tank the juggernauts hits. Also Lucas must have been talking about canon Vader, this is legends Vader; Much more stronger, much more powerful. I agree it’s close, but it comes down to who’s the smarter opponent, thus Vader.
@FrostByte_06
5 ай бұрын
@@thatwasoutofbounds bro. The thing is, palpatine in legends got beaten up by an ancient suth ghost. And legends(EU) palpatine isnt canon anyway. So i think darth nox malgus vitiate nilhus tulak > vader and palpatine
@FrostByte_06
5 ай бұрын
@@thatwasoutofbounds and dont forget. George lucas said that the roule of two made siths weaker cuz alot of knowledge was lost. And in the old republic era( malgus nox etc) they didnt use the roule of two. So even lucas said ancient siths were stronger
@thatwasoutofbounds
5 ай бұрын
@@FrostByte_06 Darth nox dosent beat Darth Vader,
@aidenhernandez2203
Жыл бұрын
I say malgus is better because darth vader was influenced by malgus, thus meaning that he is more powerful
@wolfofwar6354
8 ай бұрын
I love Darth Vader, he is great, i grew up watching him, however with Darth Malgus, he just seems so powerful, so focused and so brutal, makes me think how can someone match his power
@merlin9802
Жыл бұрын
I doubt Vader could beat Malgus due to his vulnerability to lightning, but besides that they are very similar and equally bad ass
@martinsoukup562
11 ай бұрын
Where did you get he is vulnerable to lighting?
@merlin9802
11 ай бұрын
@@martinsoukup562 Palpatine designed his suit to make him vulnerable to lighting so that he wouldn't be able to kill Palpatine
@martinsoukup562
11 ай бұрын
@@merlin9802 Well look at how that worked out lol
@merlin9802
11 ай бұрын
@martinsoukup562 yeah but the suit still worked because Vader died
@DarthKrayt-wf3vd
11 ай бұрын
@@merlin9802 Vader has tutaminis and a great reaction speed. Also, by the Book of the Sith, you can see that Vader knows the weakness of Darth Malgus.
@imboredok8591
Жыл бұрын
I was expecting to come into this and see your average “whichever character I like better wins” like almost every other video like this but was pleasantly surprised, some of the points are debatable and they recognized that and had really good points where the decision would be close. Great video 👍
@Usernamelol45
Жыл бұрын
Vader slams Malgus Keep in mind Vader was relative to Palpatine atp especially in ROTJ who was stated to be the strongest sith
@liamboi6488
10 ай бұрын
🔥edit my guy
@wilhelm4321
9 ай бұрын
Malgus never ruled the Sith Empire lol. He tried to take it over and got beat BADLY
@mr.cookiecutter
7 ай бұрын
He got to the point that he was literally known as "the False Emperor". The guy was one of the pillars of the Sith civil war. Its not like he was a random guy that just showed up and was killed. He also never canonicaly died. He was frozen in carbonite and as far as we know is still out there somewhere frozen.
@wilhelm4321
7 ай бұрын
@@mr.cookiecutter He's in prison now at least until the next update comes out
@wilhelm4321
7 ай бұрын
@@mr.cookiecutter Yes Emperor for not even a day
@wilhelm4321
7 ай бұрын
@@mr.cookiecutter And the way he went about taking over the Sith Empire was just foolish. He didn't even try to form an alliance with any member of the Dark Council... Each of whom had a significant power base. He should have tried to recruit Darth Nox who was a new member
@angryyoungman66
6 ай бұрын
I'll say Malgus will beat Vader but will struggle to do , that's my view without any biases I'm Vader fan, but still objectively I think Malgus is far better than Vader .
@jordankairos
11 ай бұрын
once vader drops the lightsaber, hes done for. ppl dont know how aggressive malgus is. in combat, he uses kicks, elbows, tackles, grapples unlike vader.
@lol34.
Жыл бұрын
Man this is one nice vid
@Wavky-snack-hacky
7 ай бұрын
i love how almost every single battle for vader and someone else defense does not go to vader, its halarious
@aliabdi2383
3 ай бұрын
Let me end this debate, the only person who can possibly stand up to vader is obiwan and that's just because vader loses control facing obiwan, he just loses it, technically if he focuses and doesn't lose control obiwan doesn't have a chance, vader cannot be beaten.
@MrThecrazyzombie
7 ай бұрын
Malgus is powerful, but Vader had crazier feats. Ive beaten Malgus too many times to consider him a proper threat in the game
@OnTheSpot-137
3 ай бұрын
Vader takes speed in legends he was able to speed blitz Jedi who’s reaction speed is the speed of light and he has done this
@r.f.a.rigsbyfamilyadventur267
3 ай бұрын
Darth Malgus take light saber pose because Darth Vader’s suit actually limits his moment not saying he is slow just saying that he is limited in his saber stances
@OnTheSpot-137
3 ай бұрын
@@r.f.a.rigsbyfamilyadventur267 I’m aware of that
@Andrew-qg5js
Жыл бұрын
I think Malgus would win in combat, while Vader practiced alot and his mastery is impressive, Malgus ultimately lived in an era where it was constantly the strongest leads, so he has probably had a fair share of to the death battles throughout his life and such, Vader has experience in the jedi ways and fighting a few strong contenders but not too many astounding duelists that were full on from the get go, Dooku was underestimating but also going easy at first, and Windu was taken out by surprise. I feel Malgus would win due to that experience and I know some claim Vader has beaten Obiwan, but he was slower but also didn't seem like his goal was winning
@Proffesional_Kriegsman
Жыл бұрын
Just so your aware this is legends vader and legends malgus. Legends vader speed blitzed the jedi council after tearing a hole in time and space to enter a new dimension
@daftzeta3671
9 ай бұрын
Malgus gets Feats? Killed 2 battle masters one as a mere apprentice, toe to toe with satele shan mid war, proceeds to kill 2 jedi after his fight with her while still being wounded and having sustained heavy damage to his respiratory system, led the sacking of the jedi temple with arguably MUCH stronger Jedi than anything Vader would have slaughtered in the temple aside from Shaak Ti and Drallig. As far as intelligence goes he made an empire, within the empire, then pulled the rug out from under the sith empire and erupted them into a civil war and posed the greatest threat to the galaxy at the time in his bid for Emperor. He combined attributes of the Republic and Empire for a stronger structure and base, using the heroes of the empire to do it none the wiser at that.
@jordankairos
Жыл бұрын
Malgus looks sick in the intro
@peteandrepeat6979
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion the two coldest moments for Vader (non comics) are in rebels and fallen order, in rebels it’s when he lifts the walker he got “crushed by” up and in fallen order him walking in
@Robolord250
Жыл бұрын
If Darth Malgus knows force lightning it’s over
@GamingBickle
Жыл бұрын
Malgus does use Force Lightning, but if Vader can react quick enough, he can block the barrage of Force Lightning
@DarthKrayt-wf3vd
11 ай бұрын
Darth Vader has energy deflection/AKA: tutaminis.
@thehoboeskimo9888
Жыл бұрын
The thing is Vader fights with the mindset of a dead man, you can’t kill something that is already dead inside.
@Megamind_5455
Жыл бұрын
Very good video well done
@slthjawa5062
Жыл бұрын
Malgus would ruin Vader. It's not even close unless you're a Disney fan.
@martinsoukup562
11 ай бұрын
Ehh what? What does Disney have to do with it?
@slthjawa5062
11 ай бұрын
@@martinsoukup562 they overstate Vader's power
@VengeDracul
Ай бұрын
@@slthjawa5062 Do me favor, stop listening to Disney's lack of vision. Never listen to people in Disney, they know nothing about Star Wars as a whole. All they have done is ruined it.
@sheeshh-gb5db
Жыл бұрын
Vader was the strongest Sith in his prime. Vader destroys
@aydiny2572
Жыл бұрын
debate?
@Sanguine_mortis
Жыл бұрын
Nah mate, Ur forgetting nihilus and revan
@jacobhatch2296
Жыл бұрын
@@Sanguine_mortis i think vader would take nihilus but revan is close. But vitiate stomps
@Soul_Of_Revan
Жыл бұрын
@@Sanguine_mortisit is stated by the writer of KOTOR that Vader will win against Nihilus in every outcome since his force drain against Vader is useless
@jordankairos
11 ай бұрын
malgus can be said "vader in his era." malgus had much more hate in combat yet he still managed to keep everything in tact, a very good leader. and he uses his whole body as a weapon with elbows, kicks, grapples, etc which vader has a hard time in doing so
@kpopbob8461
Жыл бұрын
Malgus fully committed himself to the dark side he should have that point while Vader couldn’t hence at the end of the 6th movie
@DarthSlendermanGaming
Жыл бұрын
“Let’s end this debate.” Proceeds to not end the debate by making them tie🤦♂️
@kingkongchief1177
4 ай бұрын
Malgus’s injuries aren’t missing limbs so he’s insanely fast with force speed and uses it to dodge enemy attacks and has all his other dark-side force abilities that Vader couldn’t master cause of his missing limbs cutting off a huge chunk of his connection to the force. And his heavy lightsaber strike form can rival Vaders. Plus Malgus has force lightning which Vaders suit is vulnerable against. Malgus definitely wins this. Malgus killed the Jedi grandmaster in single combat like it was nothing. Vader couldn’t even kill Obi Wan.
@The-Allfather-Odin
Жыл бұрын
Malgus: uses force lightning Vader:💀
@alexproctor524
Жыл бұрын
Sidious had the most powerful force lightning of any sith before him so if Vader could eat that from time to time over 20 years and also tank starkillers force lightning then I think he can manage with malgus
@The-Allfather-Odin
Жыл бұрын
@@alexproctor524 His suit is extremly resepteble of lighting. He can literally not function. The only reason Vader could kill Palpatine was because of his love for Luke. And still he died.
@alexproctor524
Жыл бұрын
@@The-Allfather-Odin there have been plenty of times palpatine hit him with force lightning and he didn’t shut down, it hurt but his rage kept him upright
@The-Allfather-Odin
Жыл бұрын
@@alexproctor524 Sources
@YoBf
Жыл бұрын
@@The-Allfather-Odincomics
@WinduRicardoedits
Жыл бұрын
Vader Wins: Mid-High Diff
@aimanhalabi432
Жыл бұрын
No
@WinduRicardoedits
Жыл бұрын
@@aimanhalabi432 yes.
@aimanhalabi432
Жыл бұрын
Not mid diff
@aimanhalabi432
Жыл бұрын
It’s like high-Extreme diff
@The2ndGentleman
7 ай бұрын
Malgus stayed to the Darkness and killed his wife for the Darkside. He also survived buildings on him. He would win because his lightning would, as we've seen, Basically end Lord Vader
@TheDeviousBandit
Жыл бұрын
Can you do Sauron Vs vader and palpatine( both prime)
@romeoceron7445
Жыл бұрын
Force abilities, Vader beats Malgus, Vader knows more about the force than Malgus, Vader know light and dark side abilities, people say Vader can’t use force Lightning, yes this is true buuut also false, Vader could create a force Lightning bubble from his core where the only place that has tissue left but it damaged his life support and caused to much pain to use. He used it once and never again, Vader taught himself everything, from dark side Holocrons, he was actually very knowledgeable in force abilities, he even used dark side heal which was only ever seen by two other darksiders, Vader used it to slowly heal his lungs, Lucas said by the end of ROTJ Vader was almost healed in the lungs, not perfectly but enough where he wouldn’t have to rely on the respirator to breathe, whereas Malgus always needed his. Everyone thinks Vader didn’t know much about the force but actually he knew so much
@main1033
Жыл бұрын
Force Lighting Bubble? You mean Force Maelstrom. Yea Malgus is an expert at using that ability.
@Diamond_Spellbound
Жыл бұрын
The fight would last a while they are both just too angry to die Malgus got -Blown up -Pushed inside a cliff multiple times -Got 2 buildings dropped on him Vader got -All his limbs chopped off -Burnt alive -Left there to die for a very long time
@ShadowChaser246
10 ай бұрын
Malgus went through way more than Vader so I think Malgus wins in durability
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