@@Truly_Sithari I put Satele from the Hope trailer, it's not her prime version, so Vader high diffs her. If we're talking about Prime Grandmaster Satele it can go either way..imo Satele wins extreme diff
@Truly_Sithari
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user The thing is, the Vader you have shown is him according to George Lucas, lost 80% of his potential and was basically weaker than Palpatine and his suit wasn’t susceptible to force lightning and as a Jedi grandmaster and a descendant of revan himself, Satele is powerful in the force, is knowledgeable in using a lightsaber and if anything according to disney’s poor logic any force user BUT vader could use force lightning since rey used it without training and yk vader could not use it because of his suit and he lost his arms
@DarthKraytsolosCanon500
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user even though vader no diffs everyone except for Satele
@johannnuschke9445
Жыл бұрын
@@Truly_Sitharithat's not true. Vaders force powers were reduced by nearly 40 % after the loss of his limbs, that's why he only possessed 80% of the force power related to palpatine. BUT, he stil is the chosen one after all. And he also got a hook type personality, which means the more pain he receives the angrier and therefore more powerful he becomes.
@snoopyfr2730
Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen many people overrating Vader but you’re genuinely above everyone else
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
Nah, Darth Competent is still above me)
@EatFuckingTimothy
Жыл бұрын
@ForceUser I agree but Yoda wins mid diff
@stunifier1
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user I think plo koon should be mid - high diff
@stunifier1
Жыл бұрын
@@EatFuckingTimothy in rots Palpatine did state Vader will become stronger than Palpatine and yoda but his suit limits his so I say yoda wins extreme diff
@General-Shadow.
Жыл бұрын
People overrate him I don't think he beats mace or Yoda in my opinion
@naexreturnsde6107
Жыл бұрын
Obi wan: Hold my highground
@QuantumParadise
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@CharleanCharlea
Жыл бұрын
Hold my plot armor ong
@riccardomanfreda5302
11 ай бұрын
@@CharleanCharlealol
@TRSEdits
11 ай бұрын
Plot armor 🥱
@faltasian
11 ай бұрын
u talking about the guy with force high ground and force plot armour
@Loudaddy
Жыл бұрын
Obi Wan is high/extreme diff as well. As Obi WAN’s power is extremely amplified when he is fighting for someone he loves and in this case it’s Anakin. This brings him up to Vader+ power. This is shown multiple times in Kenobi and the movies
@veco_taca
Жыл бұрын
No
@hamstey1603
Жыл бұрын
"Your powers are weak, old man." Our lightsabers clash. I try to push forward, only to be thrust violently back. It's like striking iron. There's no give in Vader's arms, and far too much in mine. ... "You should not have come back," Vader tells me. My resources are depleted, my body screaming with pain. I have no hope of winning this fight. He lunges at me; slash and counterslash, stab and riposte. The air is thick with plasma discharge, lights dancing on the edge of my vision. I'm forced back, muscle burning, breath ragged. The grip of my lightsaber is slick in my hands, my ears ringing. -- From A Certain Point Of View: Time Of Death
@eduardowillyssonpalacios9955
20 күн бұрын
*R.I.P James Earl Jones* *Voice of Darth Vader* *may the force be with you*
@geodude0744
Жыл бұрын
Bruh really gave Vader points he don't deserve 💀
@igornagonski8215
6 ай бұрын
I know i was late but mabye Vader deserve this points😊
@Katherine-p1v
3 ай бұрын
Imagine if Vader did the force choke, but he actually held up the middle finger when he did it?😂😂
@jesser5872
2 ай бұрын
the glaze is incredible
@editscentral
8 ай бұрын
The disrespect put on qui-gons name is outrageous
@onniruusunen9444
Жыл бұрын
People still don't realize that Vader simply isn't that strong. He never came even close to his potential because of getting burned and the suit being badly designed. Luke also isn't that strong. Started training too late
@loops3958
Жыл бұрын
Yoda would win 100%. Vader is 8/10ths of Palpatine's power. So if Yoda could stalemate Palpatine what makes you think Vader could defeat Yoda. Also Mace Windu defeated Palpatine so if Vader is weaker than Palpatine than Vader is weaker than Mace Windu.
@Adlerspearing-zs9qp
9 ай бұрын
Fun fact:emperor palpatine didn’t think Vader was strong enough to fight yoda
@2_fast_4_Yu
Жыл бұрын
Kitfisto more powefull than qui gon 😭💀
@guitareater6975
Жыл бұрын
He is though
@2_fast_4_Yu
Жыл бұрын
@@guitareater6975 no he isnt
@guitareater6975
Жыл бұрын
@@2_fast_4_Yu but he is…
@2_fast_4_Yu
Жыл бұрын
@@guitareater6975 kit fisto's form of lightsaber combat is shii-cho which is like no match for qui gons form
@percivalknightoftheflames855
Жыл бұрын
Being Realistic he probably is being able to React to Palpatine before he got Distracted from Anakin coming as the Novel confirms
@Rhxxst
Жыл бұрын
ROTS Mace, Yoda and Obi Wan absolutely demolishes Vader
@FusionTMK
Жыл бұрын
IQ goes to Master Yoda but Battle IQ is vader
@TheThunderGaming11
Жыл бұрын
I agree on that one
@DFK_Edits
Жыл бұрын
IQ of Yoda is Overrated
@Pseudo1112
3 ай бұрын
This is Accurate because ROTJ Vader is said to be Relative to Sidious however I think with some better mechanical amplifications and superior protection alloy he could probably also beat Sidious. Vader's force lightning is also supposed to be RED which is the strongest variant although I'm not sure how he'd manage that without frying himself
@NicoDiAngelo-02
9 ай бұрын
Really did my boy Obi-want dirty
@Head_Of_The_Table_47
7 ай бұрын
Yall forget obi wan made him asthmatic disabled person 😊
@zero_1nova
Жыл бұрын
I would say mid diff for Ahsoka, she only lost to him because of her stamina and due to his brutal strength
@zero_1nova
Жыл бұрын
Rest is ofc W 🗿
@norbert6280
Жыл бұрын
Bro just gave a Man without limbs a biq and iq over a 900 years grandmaster
@DFK_Edits
Жыл бұрын
Biq and iq of Yoda are Overrated, because sometimes he makes a foolish decisions and you say that he is smarter than Vader? No Yoda is only wiser and experienced, but not experienced in the battles
@SyedAliHussain512
Жыл бұрын
he was not even wise enough to see the one giving him orders is a sith lord
@brodybicknell391
9 ай бұрын
Qui gon is so underrated dude
@dimitrinavyseals2530
8 ай бұрын
Wait , did you really give speed to vader ? 😂😂😂😂
@CaddyCat
Жыл бұрын
Yoda slaps mid-high diff, no way Joda loses against Vader, as Joda has managed to fight Sidious and almost won the battle, Vader , on the other hand, is not even close in terms of power to Sidious.
@kruboyan4019
Жыл бұрын
Giving IQ,BIQ Experience to Vader shocked me,Yoda wins extreme diff
@dr.deadass140
8 ай бұрын
Yoda gets battle IQ, he’s 900 years old 😂
@YesNani
Жыл бұрын
Ahsoka should be above Vader now since she did beat go toe to toe with Vader and it was later confirmed that Vader & Palpatine were the only ones at the time that could actually go blow for blow with her. Also Ahsoka was able to beat Anakin in a duel.
@Prospectone
2 ай бұрын
high-extreme diff does not mean clapped. He barely beats him but everyone else gets clapped
@siemantonis4241
Жыл бұрын
Darth Vader is the best 😍😍😍😍🐐🐐🐐🐐
@CT-1975
Жыл бұрын
Obi wan has always defeated vader no matter what his defensive style and knowledge of anakins fighting he has never lost to vader in the end he let himself lose to vader and he never truly lost
@starcabal2006
Жыл бұрын
W edit bro
@gabrijelbosnjak8196
Жыл бұрын
Darth Vader (ESB, ROTJ, Prime) Vs Obi-Wan (ROTS, Kenobi show, Prime) Strength: Vader Durability: Vader Travel Speed: Obi-Wan (Vader is Hypersonic altough Vader's suit hinders his speed he is still faster than most Jedi but Kenobi is faster than Vader) Agility: Obi-Wan Endurance: Vader Stamina: Vader (in suit his weight is 500 kg which is insanely heavy and he is still fast, that is one heck of a stamina) Iq: Obi-Wan (yes, Vader was always a mechanic genius he modified his suit, his Tie Advanced x1, he built a droid capable of understanding 6 million languages when he was 9 years old, altough Kenobi is way more mindful than both Anakin and Vader, he makes better decisions and has better problem solving, aka iq=Problem solving) Intelligence: Obi-Wan (iq≠intelligence, Kenobi is more mindful Therefore he is wiser and more Intelligent than Vader) Biq: Obi-Wan (both fought in Clone Wars, Kenobi has more battle experiance) Experiance: Obi-Wan (this is obvious) Skills: Obi-Wan Knowledge: Obi-Wan Force Knowledge: Obi-Wan Gadgets: Obi-Wan (Vader has no gadgets, while Kenobi has under water breathing gear and Jedi binoculars and so on...) Weapons: Vader (his Lightsaber is 6 times hotter than the Sun, his Lightsaber also has an option to be longer while Obi-Wan never modified his Lightsaber) Defense: Obi-Wan Offence: Vader Dueling: Vader Combat: Vader Combat speed: Obi-Wan Reaction speed: both Abilities: Vader, Obi-Wan has some outstanding Force abilities altough here are Vader's: Force Schockwave (his most powerful ability the lightening comes out of his body and attacks every enemy around him), Focused Rage (ability that gives him more strength and durability), Force Choke, Force Chrush, Force speed, Force Jump, Force Slow (slows opponents), Manipulation, almost perfect Precognition (allows him to see most of the events in the future), Telekinesis (powerful enough to stop a Star craft from going to Hyperspace... And Here are Obi-Wan's: Jedi Mind trick, Force Ghost, All out push (most powerful force push, can charge it), Force Speed, Force Jump, Telekinesis, Precognition (allows him to see some events in the future), animal friendship (can tame almost any living being). Altough Kenobi's abilities are owerpowered Vader's are even more. Power: Vader (The Chosen One, The Fallen Angel, has 27000 midichlorians while Kenobi has 17000 he was determined more than any other Jedi so he surpassed almost every Jedi in terms of Power he was still not as Powerful as Darth Vader) Force Mastery: Obi-Wan AP: both DC: Darth Vader Hax: Obi-Wan (Vader is conflicted) Versatility: Obi-Wan Potential: Vader Feats: Vader (altough Obi-Wan did defeat Vader countless times) Obi-Wan Kenobi points-17 Darth Vader points-16 Obi-Wan Kenobi wins extreme difficulty, yes Vader is the most powerful force user and best duelist ever, but overall Kenobi's pros combined are better than Vader's combined, why? Because Kenobi trained him, because Kenobi Always exploits his opponent's weaknesses, because Obi-Wan is a fricking GOAT, Vader is too, altough Kenobi is my favourite character, he has no flaw and if he does he will do everything to fix his mistake, he is determined, he is definition of how a Jedi should be, he is literally the Space Jesus himself, my favourite character ever altough Vader is second and you guys can't call me biased because I explained why Kenobi wins, I wish you all a great day!
@AjedigetreadytodieAHHHHHH
8 ай бұрын
What would Vader do if he went to kill a Jedi, and it was qui-gon standing there somehow alive
@danieldawang2120
8 ай бұрын
Even george lucas himself said Yoda is overpowered. He got the best of even Darth Sidious who is considered the strongest sith lord. Grandmaster yoda too much for vader while in his suit which is limiting him. But full potential vader claps everyone at once he is basically the force itself.
@yasinn4535
Жыл бұрын
Darth Plagueis & Young Darth Sidious vs Darth Vader & Starkiller
@DarthKraytsolosCanon500
Жыл бұрын
Vader stomps
@xavi2008
Жыл бұрын
For those who are saying that iq goes to yoda, let me tell You that iq is not wisdom, has yoda ever been an engineer or created his own droid ?
@2kx62
Жыл бұрын
A conflict Kenobi who haven’t used the force or light saber for 10 years beat darth Vader
@110Ironfist
Жыл бұрын
“Dumb you are” -Grandmaster Yoda
@s0mebody244
9 ай бұрын
yoo, yoda said it himself
@stuthinsamuel7547
9 ай бұрын
😂😂
@cameronbraceful1569
8 ай бұрын
Facts Yoda would duel circles around Vader
@ShadowRainYT
7 ай бұрын
@OwenJiang-bc9nk 💀💀💀 maybe you should go watch some star wars for the first time 😅
@ichbinderhund2109
6 ай бұрын
@@SidiousNegsValkorionyeah dude you don’t know much🤦♂️ obiwan beat prime Vader in canon and Yoda was always superior to obiwan.
@InterceptorIV
Жыл бұрын
Yoda has less experience? Ok with more than 900 years😂😂
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
Battle Experience* Experience goes to Yoda
@nomarxistspls90
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user yoda still has more battle experience 💀
@Red283.
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user 900 years of battles, there's no way vader could beat yoda
@aarya_gaming9606
Жыл бұрын
@@Red283. you forget that the years Yoda reigned as grandmaster were part of the era of peace after the defeat of this sith, Yoda actually saw a fairly low amount of combat during that time.
@Red283.
Жыл бұрын
@@aarya_gaming9606 still more than vader battle experience
@xevality_natsim
Жыл бұрын
Obi wan mid diff 🤣🤣🤣 the joke
@Легоман-щ9с
Жыл бұрын
Obi Wan defeated Anakin with cunning.
@theraven4786
Жыл бұрын
@@Легоман-щ9с doesn't matter,still beat him at his best and did the same latter on while exploiting the same weakness therefore showing he doesn't learn from his mistakes. That is a major weakness that should be accounted for.
@theraven4786
Жыл бұрын
@@LordMagmion899 he was conflicted due to his own "weakness". Not once,but twice. Can't call it a coincidence at that point.
@kevind3974
Жыл бұрын
@@Легоман-щ9с that means shit. A win is still a win. And he won TWICE
@alexbgd4772
Жыл бұрын
So Why Kenobi can’t win against Dooku but Vader yes? Vader without arrogant will kill in easy against Obi wan.
@derekd5490
Жыл бұрын
giving IQ to Vader is crazy glazing
@JacenSolo0
Жыл бұрын
Vader is way smarter tho. Yoda is genuinely a dumbass during the prequels
@danilocavalcante3155
Жыл бұрын
I never saw a SW battle edit so stupid like this one lol
@johncanes5686
Жыл бұрын
Literally, he knows it too. Mace windu would also pack up vader since he beat Sidious in a fair 1v1. It’s been confirmed that Sidious is more powerful than vader
@Ky-xm7tc
Жыл бұрын
@@johncanes5686 ROTJ Vader is more powerful than ROTS Sidious so it’s hard to scale.
@johncanes5686
Жыл бұрын
@@Ky-xm7tc he is not. Palpatine has always been more powerful. Vader is being amped by his torturous suit but it’s also really weak to sith lightning. And it’s not like sidious is only relying on his lighting, he is a better duelist and more versed in all kinds of force abilities/arts. He takes it mid diff at best. Realistically low diff
@draktar925
Жыл бұрын
Why is Satele Shan so underestimated. During the most difficult period of the Republic, she managed to become the greatest jedi and received the title of grandmaster at a relatively young age.
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
I put Satele from the Hope trailer, it's not her prime version
@CommanderOfRussia1
Жыл бұрын
Prime Satele doesn’t beat Vader either. Cannon Vader is perhaps stronger than his legends counter part. In new Disney cannon (not a fan of cannon btw) he’s the strongest Sith lord to ever live, and it’s stated word for word. Legends Vader still wins imo. No Sith Lord has ever racked up more Jedi kills. Satele was not near Yoda’s level, at the time of RoTS Anakin was. Vader becomes stronger than RoTS Anakin. So it’s not underestimating her, it’s putting her against a foe she has no chance of defeating. Satele is fantastic, just Vader is phenomenal.
@manofthunderbolts6525
Жыл бұрын
Because TOR characters are fodder, deal with it
@qdrizzle435
Жыл бұрын
She’s good but it’s the chosen one cmon now
@Justaguywithfax
Жыл бұрын
@@manofthunderbolts6525 they aren’t fodder but Vader beats most except revan, arcann, vaylin, vitiate stuff like those people
@sebastianadrianvneira4952
Жыл бұрын
And i thought i was Vader fanboy
@EraiCZ
Жыл бұрын
Lol nope. Kenobi wiped floor with Vader. Multiple times lol. Lost only when he decided to.
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
Dude , it's legends characters except for Ahsoka and Jedi Dooku. In legends Vader has never lost to Obi Wan (except for Mustafar). Legends Vader absolutely demolishes Kenobi, he's just on another level
@Duplotopf
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user Vader in legends is weaker than in canon
@Duplotopf
Жыл бұрын
@@applesundae8833 ok?
@permabulkenjoyer2002
Жыл бұрын
Vader/Anakin is stronger, and as we can see from every battle a better duelist. However, Vader/Anakin will never win against Kenobi due to the emotional attachment and conflict it causes Vader/Anakin.
@JacenSolo0
Жыл бұрын
@@Duplotopf ehh, he fights way more in legends so his losses are more
@nomarxistspls90
Жыл бұрын
Yoda from ROTS claps vader
@jonesgurjones
Жыл бұрын
Same as mace
@ToroBravo144
Жыл бұрын
@@jonesgurjones nah Yoda>>Vader>>>>Windu
@oldfart6935
Жыл бұрын
@@ToroBravo144 mace > ROTS sidious vader is 80% of rots sidious
@ДмитрийРубежов-э1б
Жыл бұрын
Yoda < Windu < Vader With High Diff
@tonymclaughlin8811
Жыл бұрын
@@oldfart6935 Vader is 80% of ROTJ Sidious
@sparkrown
Жыл бұрын
Most people forget that in the canon lore, Vader was one of the most powerful Sith Lords in existence Even though he had lost a great part of his potential, he compensated his loss of connexion to the force by the pain caused by his suit, reinforcing his anger and thus his connexion to the force. And we also need to remember that he is probably the greatest duelist among the force users in the canon lore. And that s not even mentioning the disadvantage of a Jedi fighting against him, his ruthlessness as a Sith Lord makes him an extremely dangerous opponent who would do anything to win (for example vader s duel against the Jedi master Kirak where the former had no lightsaber and was injured)
@s1gmaduck
Жыл бұрын
Nah He getting clapped everytime i have seen him on the screen The only reason he didn't die in those fights are PLot Armor or the enemys went soft and didn't kill him
@sparkrown
Жыл бұрын
Have you ever watched the movies beside ROTJ dude ? 😂
@QuantumParadise
Жыл бұрын
@@sparkrown"people forget". No disrespect but I think it is rather your point of view that is biased. I don't think anyone would disagree with the fact he was strong...but THE greatest duelist? 😮😅 come on. Do you have proof to back this up? And I'm not talking about a top 10 you find by googling. Vader is a made on purpose limited version of Anakin. And the whole world knows Anakin was not even close to Yoda or Sidious just to name them in lightsaber combat (fyi Mace beat sidious). This short contains a couple who could beat him too imo. Btw he was beaten twice by Obiwan, even in his original form, no robotic limited. With that fact alone it defeats your point. I'll state you some facts. Yoda to Kenobi: you are not strong enough to go agaisnt Sidious. Kenobi wins 2 fights against Vader.
@sparkrown
Жыл бұрын
Bro i understand your point of view. But the fact you should take into account some facts : - I said vader could be the strongest duelist in the canon cause if we put force abilities aside, vader could bust in duel both palpatine and yoda who heavily rely on the force during battle, not even mentioning that while yoda was in exile after ROTS, Vader kept training under Sidious and only acquired more duel skills. Dueling is not about the force abilities, it is about your mastery of a lightsaber - The reason why Vader lost to Obi-wan is his mistake of underestimating him and losing focus on his duel in front of his former master he was obsessed with - You could arguably say that Windu beat Sidious in ROTS but the latter was probably holding back cause he felt anakin s presence and sensed his arrival (like Kit Fisto did, which made him lose focus and caused his death). Palpatine had to drive anakin on his side, by any means necessary such as surrendering and begging windu for mercy + we could assume he could have killed windu had anakin chosen not to interfere. Windu kicked Sidious saber out during the fight but we the latter had another one (probably hidden on him) - I admit Vader is limited, but his experience, intelligence, duel skills and ruthlessness makes him stronger than ROTS anakin imo, even if vader may have a weaker connexion to the force - Anakin s defeat on Mustafar is only the result of his arrogance and overconfidence. Sidious had not taught him anything at this point about using the powers of the dark side unlike vader during the empire period
@QuantumParadise
Жыл бұрын
@@sparkrown sorry but i disagree with pretty much everything you just mentionned. These are not facts but your own interpretation of things. First saying "ok let's just put force aside to see who can win a lightsaber combat" does not really makes sense as using the force in lightsaber combats between FORCE users is the whole point. Vader also relies on this A LOT in fact he is good at it because he uses the dark side of the FORCE. It is actually how Anakin won against Dooku. Also idk where you get the "yoda and sidious heavily rely on force". While it is true for every force users, well if let's say we would like to see them not using the force in such combats, let me remind you Yoda mastered every single forms of lightsaber combat. Also you can't say Vader wouldn't be as handicaped as any other force users, you have no proof of that. Second, Vader wasn't trained by sidious in lightsaber combat... Sidious himself thougth lightsabers were pointless. Vader created his own style to adapt to his physical limitations and was trained by no other than just himself. Point me to any canon line stating Sidious trained Vader in lightsaber combat. Also idk why you are saying sidious lost because he sense anakin, it is true for Kit but it is NOT the reason palpatine lost to mace. It is a non debatable fact that he lost to mace because mace used vapaad against him. It is in the novel and lucas said it himself, Sidious lost to Mace there is no justification, Mace best him that's all. So there is no "you can arguably say", it is what it is there is no debate here and saying "he was probably holding back" once again proves you do not rely on facts. Finally, Vader vs obiwan, no matter what reasons you can bring, he still lost the fights.. meaning he still has weaknesses making him NOT the best duelist. Again no disrespect, but I really feel your fanatic point of view of Vader makes you blind and try to find justifications to his failures 😬
@ДмитрийРубежов-э1б
6 ай бұрын
Legends Vader Clears No Diff Due To Novels [Novelizations] Statements.
@Evanuris
Жыл бұрын
Plo Koon the most underrated by those unaware of his power, and I don't even need to watch the video to know that he was misrated
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
You guys're always busting my balls with Plo Koon, citing the example of him beating Yoda in Non-Canon and even Non-Legends story made by fans
@Evanuris
Жыл бұрын
And the Obi-Wan canon putting Anakin/Vader to suck his balls twice? Touchê 🥸
@Evanuris
Жыл бұрын
despite the jokes, great video bro
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
@@Evanuris thanks man❤️
@Evanuris
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user ♥️
@fanart2482
Жыл бұрын
900 year yoda been in a war for a long time and seeing all his homies death and have a highest IQ bc of his age
@alberteinstein453
Жыл бұрын
That is called experience,but i get your point
@hamstey1603
Жыл бұрын
You cannot improve your IQ. Its always constant lmao. If you took an IQ test at 10, itll be the same when youre 40
@martinsoukup562
Жыл бұрын
What war exactly?
@elektrogamer-roblox8717
Жыл бұрын
Yoda,mace,plo,Obi wan clap
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
🗿🗿🗿 Bro, you'd better continue playing roblox)
@ludvignordin6349
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user hes right gtfo here🤣🤡
@Prefusify
Жыл бұрын
@mesoldier294 play saber showdon
@RJstudiosYT
7 ай бұрын
@@force_userimagine saying pong krell>>>plo koon 😂😂😂
@yourlocalramen1660
7 ай бұрын
Satele Shan in her prime also beats Vader. Plo Koon idk about, I’d say High-Diff to Vader on that one
@dariannisch7511
Жыл бұрын
Yoda litterly lived 900 years and you're saying that vader has more battle experience 🤣🤣🤣
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
Why not? Yoda lived in the gold age of the Jedi Order. From the time when the Brotherhood of Darkness was destroyed (when Yoda was approximately born) till the Phantom Menace jedi had never met any worthy opponents to fight, so Yoda was only fighting in the Jedi Temple with other jedi, but I don't think it means smth
@dariannisch7511
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user even if he fought only against jedis 900 years of doing that is way better than vaders battle experience
@vrolijk9865
Жыл бұрын
@@dariannisch7511of course sparring holds the same weight as to the death duells
@martinsoukup562
Жыл бұрын
@@dariannisch7511yeah you have no idea.
@harrycatt2708
2 ай бұрын
Actually, Yoda was around during the time of the Old Republic meaning there is a chance he at least fought in the tail end of the thouand year war against the Sith meaning he would have fought other Sith before @force_user
@Ven_Zallow
Жыл бұрын
Windu claps his robotic cheeks
@Typical_Dogger
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@CaptainFordo277
Жыл бұрын
Nope. Vader will win
@TheSoldier1984
Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainFordo277 nope Sam Jackson wins this
@CaptainFordo277
Жыл бұрын
@@TheSoldier1984 Vader has been confirmed to be the strongest lightsaber duellist of all time. Even Anakin has statements above Windu and Vader is far more powerful than Ani. And don’t mention that windu beat palps. While he may have won fairly prime Vader is far more skilled than ROTS palps imo
@TheSoldier1984
Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainFordo277 bro pls don’t take my comment seriously…it’s just for fun I literally called him Sam Jackson not by his Jedi name 😂😂😂 Vader showed many feats also in the comics Beating maul, grand inquisitor Just imagine him going against darth Malgus
@canadiagamer1888
Жыл бұрын
In my belief the reason Vader never went looking for Yoda but he did look for Ben is because he wasn't 100% sure he could win
@alyax-
Жыл бұрын
or maybe because a little guacamole elf is hard to find
@TheThunderGaming11
Жыл бұрын
He never went because he thought he was dead he knew obi wan was alive
@SozeSR
Жыл бұрын
You do realise why no one could find Yoda is because he intentionally went into exile on a planet succumbed by Dark Side energy (aka Dagobah) to mask his presence. Dagobah is a former Sith nexus, hence the cave he sends Luke into. “Ah yes I could find Yoda instantly if I wanted to but I’m too scared so I’ll just leave him train my Son” lmao, not how it works mate Nothing to do with Vader at all bud.
@alinpopescu5136
Жыл бұрын
It was better for Vader that he could't find Yoda, it's out of any danger this way 🤣
@newhybrid101
Жыл бұрын
Sidious literally said he would get wrecked
@princedaemontargaryen117
Жыл бұрын
Bro did you really say Vader gonna beat Obi Wan even tho Obi Wan beat Vader twice. Woulda beat him again but he wanted Luke to become a Jedi.
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
Bro, I put Legends characters except for Jedi Dooku and Ahsoka. Legends Vader has never been beaten by Obi-Wan (except for Mustafar). Legends Vader absolutely demolishes Kenobi, he's just on another level
@Head_Of_The_Table_47
7 ай бұрын
@@force_userstop licking vader's balls its already burned
@sasjahuygelen7910
Жыл бұрын
Bruh Obi wan kicked vaders ass😂
@crabby1
Жыл бұрын
this is prime Vader.
@TGproductions00
Жыл бұрын
@@crabby1 that was prime Vader he beat him when he had no conflict on mustufar just anger like come on
@josephsfeir526
Жыл бұрын
Dude he also put ahsoka on low diff least does he know ahsoka would be one of the hardest he'd go up against after all he trained her
@sasjahuygelen7910
Жыл бұрын
@@josephsfeir526 darth vader is one of the most overrated characters in all of the movie world.
@Penguin-b5b
Жыл бұрын
Eh obi still sucks LOL
@artemartemanimations3217
Жыл бұрын
Yoda takes down vader and Yoda also gets iq, battle iq and reflexes. Obi wan already defeated vader. Mace windu form will put vader down and beat him as he defeated palpatine Setele shan beats vader high diff
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
Man, this is legends forms except for Ahsoka and Jedi Dooku. I put Satele Shan from the Hope trailer, so it's bot her prime version and she's not that powerful to beat Vader. Imo Prime Grandmaster Shan is one the same level with Vader, so it can go either way, probably she claps. Obi-Wan has never defeated Vader in legends (of course except for Mustafar), Kenobi Series is canon, so I didn't take it into account. You guys always overrate Mace Windu, saying that he defeated Palps who is > Vader and he has Vaapad which counters dark side users. Well, in Canon we can say that Palps really lost to Mace, but in Legends it's a trash, Mace literally lost to Ventress. Don't you think Ventress > Palpatine?) I hope you don't. That means, in legend version of ROTS Palpatine was just playing with Mace, waiting for the Anakin to come and seduce him by the dark side. And it was stated in the ROTS novel (legends), that during the battle with Mace Sidious understood that it would be a hard fight for him, but it was not his purpose to defeat Mace, his purpose was to seduce Anakin and make him to do that instead of Palps. So Legends Vader Mid-Highs Legends Mace, and btw Canon Vader also mid diffs just because of sclaing. Both in legends and in canon Vader scales above Mace. Mace can't defeat Vader, he can give him a hard fight in dueling, using Vaapad, but he has nothing to oppose in everything connected with the Force, considering that even Mace himself confessed that he's below Yoda, Anakin and even Obi-Wan in telekinesis and some other force abilities. Mace is EXTREMELY overrated asf. Canon Vader scales above Canon Yoda as well. Canon Yoda has very a few feats in compare to Vader. In legends Yoda is stronger but he still even lost to Dooku in one comics, struggled against him in AOTC and even in his amped form in ROTS still wasn't able to defeat Palps. Considering that Prime Vader > Dooku and Sidious (in combat) I would say that these two are on the same level, so it can go either way. Imo Prime Vader > Base Yoda, but Amped ROTS Yoda >>== Prime Vader.
@DFK_Edits
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user fax
@nwk1626
Жыл бұрын
the kenobi show really made the most inconsistent fight in the skywalker saga😂 it made less sense than rey beating palpatine
@pablo-po2tq
Жыл бұрын
Obi-wan kicked vader's ass everytime they fought
@jakegrant5698
11 ай бұрын
Until Vader literally KILLED him
@aleximusmagnus
11 ай бұрын
@@jakegrant5698bro obi wan literally let vader kill him 😂
@gandhalishenvikunkolienkar6361
9 ай бұрын
@@aleximusmagnusbecause he knew he couldn’t have beaten vader over there he was too powerful for him 😂😂
@amiljahic5583
9 ай бұрын
@@gandhalishenvikunkolienkar6361no because of Luke
@amiljahic5583
8 ай бұрын
@rokstridaCrews yeah do you now why ?watch the scene again please
@pedroroque829
Жыл бұрын
Darth Vader meat riding in this video is insane
@Øknap26
Жыл бұрын
For real
@patrickgensch1695
Жыл бұрын
Last one is 🧢 yoda wins mid diff
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
Canon Vader scales above Canon Yodal. Canon Yoda has very a few feats in compare to Vader. In legends Yoda is stronger but he still even lost to Dooku in one comics, struggled against him in AOTC and even in his amped form in ROTS still wasn't able to defeat Palps. Considering that Prime Vader > Dooku and Sidious (in combat) I would say that these two are on the same level, so it can go either way. Imo Prime Vader > Base Yoda, but Amped ROTS Yoda >>== Prime Vader
@patrickgensch1695
Жыл бұрын
@@force_user true
@albertboom7870
6 ай бұрын
@@force_userHuh u do know yoda literally disarmed sidious till the point sidious had to run away and use force powers to keep him at a distance vader is strong for sure but yoda would win that even sidious stated that he wouldn't let vader go look for yoda or what would have happend if yoda and vader would have duel
@Dragon-pm3kh
10 ай бұрын
Does it still surprise anyone about the fact that that’s Anakin Skywalker under there.
@ROCKETZOMBIE77
Жыл бұрын
Bro seriously have Vader travel speed and reflexes
@sganime4299
6 ай бұрын
Yea man we saw yoda fight and see that he has speed even at an old age
@Darth_Autisticus
Ай бұрын
Yoda gets battle IQ and IQ. And other things too. Yoda beats Vader extreme difference. Now yes dimensional Vader would beat Yoda. But Vader in suit and knightfall Vader wouldn’t beat Yoda.
@rodolfo7705
Жыл бұрын
Palpatine once said that he don't send vader to kill yoda, because yoda will kill him easyly. So...
@feduntu
3 ай бұрын
george lucas himself had stated that Vader had overcome all previous jedi so no...
@eoghanjones9042
2 ай бұрын
That was before the suit when anakin was seething with rage and overconfident where even lesser skilled opponents could outsmart and beat anakin when anakin was put into the suit it was stated on multiple occasions anakin/vader are now more powerful and skilled than he’s even been and that Vader had surpassed any Jedi by a decent bit
@kysofye1
Жыл бұрын
Plo Koon and Kit Fisto are definitely mid diffs they just got nerfed in ROTC
@Angron_Of_Nuceria
Жыл бұрын
Come off it. Vader would have been clapped by so many of these hahaha
@gusfring6887
Жыл бұрын
Aint no way, Vader is the most powerful force users, only rivaled by palpatine (not including legends characters)
@Легоман-щ9с
Жыл бұрын
@@gusfring6887 In the Legends, Vader is in the top 20 strongest force users, and in the top of the strongest Sith he is in the top 10 and this is in the Legends, and in the canon he is the 2nd strongest force user and Sith
@calebcalhoun9847
Жыл бұрын
Name 3
@honestmaster1932
Жыл бұрын
What we know is that Vader, even without him limbs growth a lot in power in the years (it is canon that suited Vader is stronger than Vader in ep.3) and even if he don't reach his full potential he become absolutely stronger than Yoda. Vader is considered stronger than Sidious in terms of lightsaber skills, and he have huge feats with the force that Yoda don't have. And in all the what if scenarios where Vader and Yoda fought, Vader won (books and comics). So even if these scenarios are not canon, they are at least an indication. We also have an early interview of Lucas where he said that Yoda would lose against Vader in a fight, this is also an old interview so not 100% canon, but is at least another indication. All the indications from the materials we have, canon and not canon, from feats etc.. put Vader over Yoda. Just Yoda's fan boys put him over Vader just because he is little, green and cute. Sure Yoda is strong and for Vader would be an high diff win, but Vader will win. Vader is more durable, trained to counter the fighting style of Yoda, he have more raw power in the force, more stamina etc.. Yoda advantage point is only his agility, while he physically weaker, he run out of stamina quickly, he is fragile, a lot less durable etc.. one good blow and Yoda is down, while Vader can tank TONS of damages. Yoda is completely in disadvantage in this fight, and this is one of the reasons he hide on a lost planet without dare to face Vader or the Emperor alone.
@kingleo5368
Жыл бұрын
The fact that ashoka went toe to toe with vader but you still underestimate her smh
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
Vader played with her in the first half of their battle; when he was distracted by Ezra and Kanan she cut his helmet and only after that he started to fight in his full force and he needed several minutes to almost kill her and he would have done it if it wasn't Ezra who saved her in the very last moment. Ok, low-mid diff
@kingleo5368
Жыл бұрын
@ForceUser I wasn't counting the slash to the helmet and you can't say he was playing with her. Sure he would have killed her but she also would have almost killed him since the last move she made even if she went down he was still going to fall through the hole she created
@force_user
Жыл бұрын
@@kingleo5368 He definitely played with her in the first half, rewatch this battle. He even offered her a clemency, which is very uncommon for Vader. That says a lot. Ok, you convinced me a bit with the last move) Low-Mid Diff
@SozeSR
Жыл бұрын
Ya’ll high as fuck if you think Ahsoka was even in that fight man. I want whatever you’re smoking if you class lasting about 5 minutes before getting tired and yeeted off the ledge, as going “toe to toe”. Not to mention the only offence strike she made was the initial opening and slicing his mask off. That ain’t toe to toe bro that’s trying to live lol By your logic Kanan is underestimated. Vader claps both. Mid Diff at best
@plasmisarcadia2204
Жыл бұрын
Darth Vader *did* kill Ahsoka before that time travel BS Ezra did, but as the apprentice of Anakin Skywalker, she's High Diff at minimum.
@zackmiranowic3488
Жыл бұрын
But Ashoka was high difficulty for Vader. She sliced off half his mask.
@slashano
Жыл бұрын
vader completely dominated the entire duel. She couldn't attack him when she had 2 swords. And in the end he killed him. If she is still alive it is thanks to the Star Wars religion. She only managed to break his mask by attacking him in the back while he was using force on 2 other jedi.
@feested3402
Жыл бұрын
@@slashano swords
@Loudaddy
Жыл бұрын
@@slashano swords. Yea you lose credibility
@JL-uc8rs
Жыл бұрын
She did, but it was due to him being distracted. He tried to get the holocron, but then Ahsoka came charging and Vader barely turned in time.
@luigischubertarmani7489
Жыл бұрын
Bruh how Obi Wan is mid diff? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Obi Wan defeated Anakin at his prime how is he not gonna beat Vader which is 90% robot 😂😂😂
@Dinkleberg869
Жыл бұрын
Obi wan kicked his ass twice
@SidiousEdits87
6 ай бұрын
This is ROTJ Vader
@Shreklivesmatter3231
5 ай бұрын
@@SidiousEdits87even worse
@SidiousEdits87
5 ай бұрын
@@Shreklivesmatter3231 ROTJ Vader > ANH Vader (obvious) ANH Vader > ANH Kenobi (stated in "From a Certain Point of View") ANH Kenobi > KS Kenobi (obvious) KS Kenobi > Mustafar Kenobi (obvious)
@xdevilxx-_-demons3263
Жыл бұрын
Bro dosen’t know scaling💀 Yoda no-low diffs also tf are you on Ahoska solos over half the list and you said low diff on her over ppl like pong Krell who are featless only thing he did was defeat a few clones💀 and ppl from the Old rebuplic who are much weaker than the new jedi order
@darthjadus9015
7 ай бұрын
Agreed except Kao Cen Darach, Ahsoka and Saesee Tiin. Ven Zallow was the equal of a way, way more powerful Malgus and his most famous kill only because of a Malgus feinting an opening. Kao should be low diff whilst Ven should be mid diff and Saesee almost stalemated Windu and is very impressive with the force, for sure a top 10 prequel era jedi, he should be the same diff as Kit Fisto to be honest whilst Ahsoka is just overrated
@Revan_Production
Жыл бұрын
Fax edit Darth Vader 🥶🐐
@MichaelMyers87
6 ай бұрын
Ep 3 Yoda defeats Ep 6 Vader.
@francescolunardi6966
Жыл бұрын
yes, finally someone who understands the power of Vader
@MAX-uq7eh
Жыл бұрын
And yet another biased Vader fan you just look at profile picture and know😂
@Легоман-щ9с
Жыл бұрын
@@MAX-uq7eh You obviously haven't read the books and comics
@MilanoEdits
Жыл бұрын
@@MAX-uq7eh some of the difficulties are messed up but tbh hes not wrong.
@igornagonski8215
Ай бұрын
He is weak and fodder and overrated
@MoreMorps
6 ай бұрын
I think Jedi Dooku would beat Darth Vader. Because Dooku isn't aged and is more wise.
@zero-yb2rm
Жыл бұрын
This is some of the biggest cap in a long time the amount of people who’ve had Vader at death door just by turning off his breathing with the buttons on his chest
@Fist3ee
Жыл бұрын
This is Vader Legends Canon Vader is a fodder Disney ruined him again by making him lose to Fraud Kenobi
@Легоман-щ9с
Жыл бұрын
Vader only lost 9 times if we take both canon and legends, and if the army still when he was Anakin select all his fails from canon and Legends and when he was captured, then all together 40 fails, defeat,Capture, and canon and legend
@calebhubbard6398
Жыл бұрын
Legends Vader is a whole different beast man. This is legends Vader he's using in this video. The feats Vader has in legends is absolutely insane.
@percivalknightoftheflames855
Жыл бұрын
@@Fist3eeLegends OT Vader barely if even scales above Qui-Gon Jinn
@Fist3ee
Жыл бұрын
@@percivalknightoftheflames855 in g-canon he's around Maul's level in Legends scaling without g-canon he can be scaled close to ROTJ Sidious's level
@LordOfRock
Жыл бұрын
You did Yoda dirty. A little green frog jumping every which way madly swinging his lightsaber vs a burnt potato with slow and in maneuverable arms
@thefancygoldfish
Жыл бұрын
A 900 year old little green frog that holds extreme wisdom and knowledge
@martinsoukup562
Жыл бұрын
Calling legends Vader slow...
@jakegrant5698
11 ай бұрын
Yoda would get destroyed, Vader is an unstoppable juggernaut that Yoda doesn't have the physical power to hurt. Vader's defense is too tight, and he'd easily read Yoda's attacks, which are a single type- a jumping and or spinning attack. Yoda's force abilities require too much concentration, effort, and time for him to use in a duel.
@albertboom7870
6 ай бұрын
@@jakegrant5698Lol yoda to fast for vader to contest with sidious mastered all forms and even could not get past yoda's defence hell yoda even disarmed sidious
@mrFLightningIV
Жыл бұрын
I don't think Vader can beat Yoda but still there a chance he can defeat him also palpatine feared ti send vader to find and kill yoda because he though he mightve lose vader I think yoda has a higher chance of winning though high - extreme diff
@starwarsbrainbusters5587
Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more , I enjoy your one of the few KZitemrs who do not underrate Yoda massively
@willisstillhere8846
Жыл бұрын
Yet he overrated Vader
@starwarsbrainbusters5587
Жыл бұрын
@@willisstillhere8846 yeah kinda
@MDKedits
11 ай бұрын
IQ to Yoda, 190>170, combat to Vader
@Wonka_The_One
2 ай бұрын
I think this guy just loves vader cause yoda would beat him and so would several others
@Wonka_The_One
2 ай бұрын
Yoda has way more experience and force abilities
@eduardo2892
2 ай бұрын
yeah, mace also would clap him mid diff
@AxelReyna91506
Ай бұрын
@@eduardo2892 nah I don't think so
@semicolonizer
Жыл бұрын
W for giving IQ to Vader
@Mekhanesolos
Жыл бұрын
How is ven below kao when malgus killed both, and ven was the notable one please pay attention to stuff instead of making terrible Scailing errors, when the game/story gives you the answers
@stancedstyfon1234
3 ай бұрын
Obi wan: Hold my high ground Mace windu: Hold my seat too
@StarCrafts9547
Жыл бұрын
Yoda would win 😠
@StarCrafts9547
7 ай бұрын
@@OwenJiang-bc9nk yeah I know 🤯
@Fabio_Carvalho99
3 ай бұрын
All other opinions are irrelevant S7 clone wars ahsoka solos any star wars character
@fili-pes1275
Жыл бұрын
Bro overrate vader
@BatThaxEditz
4 ай бұрын
Nah 💀 I agree with all of these except Yoda
@oynlister8571
Ай бұрын
Luke Skywalker joined the game
@zoy13
11 ай бұрын
So let me guess Darth Vader can't beat the Emperors in 1 at 1 combat and you expected me a being who atleast keep up with the Emperor get demolished
@Chckster
11 ай бұрын
Vader has multiple statements placing him above Palpatine and Yoda
@kmekosnk840
Жыл бұрын
LMAO CAP
@nouns_sama
10 ай бұрын
Yoda Kenobi and Windu just negs Vader bro
@HenryBiswell-fy4te
11 ай бұрын
Ok, I guess we are just going to forget about the multiple times obi-wan beat Vader.
@Head_Of_The_Table_47
7 ай бұрын
Channel owner vader fanboy😂
@moisesm5353
Жыл бұрын
Vader is the best Jedi 🔥
@_Kurumi_Tokisaki_
9 ай бұрын
This was a trash VS. Yoda would kill Vader high diff. He made the Emperor go on the defensive when they fought in ROTS.
@TheJoeyphatz
11 ай бұрын
Yall need to stop putting Obi-Wan losing at any point against Vader. He's literally 3-0 to vader. He died at the third, but on purpose to secure his ultimate defeat.
@Chckster
11 ай бұрын
This is what I’m saying. Throw whatever comic feat or statement at me you want it doesn’t change the fact it’s 3-0
@acegabrielcruz3687
6 ай бұрын
Disney is bull shit I like George's version better because George Lucas said that Vader can beat Mace Windu and give a good fight to Yoda
@lumbagoboi1649
3 ай бұрын
@@acegabrielcruz3687 The original trilogy basically suggested that Darth Vader singlehandedly hunted down all the Jedi and the only duel we see him in against obi wan he wins. Way to many people have become comfortable with Disney nerfing him in every show.
@SyedHaiderJafri-vw7jo
9 ай бұрын
What is bro on Yoda got 900 years of experience he would easily win
@SyedHaiderJafri-vw7jo
9 ай бұрын
And so would Obi Wan
@JaylaisAwesome
Жыл бұрын
Luke: I can’t kill my own father. Luke using his lightsaber violently in anger in return of Jedi, nearly killing his dad.
@kingkongchief1177
Жыл бұрын
My dream battle in Star Wars is Darth Vader VS Darth Malgus
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