This is way better than engaging with emotional people at speaker corner.
@TheRationalizer
5 жыл бұрын
I agree. It's just a shame he insists that any discussion on the subject with SkyDivePhil is ONLY done at speakers' corner. He should step up and debate Phil properly.
@TheRationalizer
5 жыл бұрын
@Midnight Marauder It's not that Subboor doesn't explain it incorrectly, it's that he gives irrelevant answers to the point and doesn't understand why. Phil has offered Subboor a debate where they exchange arguments in written form before the debate so they can properly research each others claims before arguing against them. Subboor won't do it, because he relies on quote-mining and misrepresentation that Phil will easily pick apart if he knows which fallacious arguements Subboor will use in advance. If you think I am wrong, persuade Subboor to accept Phil's offer of a formal debate.
@TheRationalizer
5 жыл бұрын
@Midnight Marauder I watched the same video, Subboor simply didn't understand what was or wasn't homology. As for your personal attack, I'm neither impressed or interested.
@TheRationalizer
5 жыл бұрын
@Midnight Marauder You were commenting on the arguer rather than the argument - that's ad-hominem
@TheRationalizer
5 жыл бұрын
@Midnight Marauder I still don't care what your opinion is of me.
@zamrihayat
5 жыл бұрын
this intellectual debate in this small insignificant planet in this vast cosmos alone shows Allah existence and power.
@ahmedbebackup9944
5 жыл бұрын
@MyNameIsEarl the summary of all the evidences of an eternal, all powerful, all knowing God is in two premises and one conclusion. Everything that begin to exist has to have a cause, it is impossible to have an infinity of things that need a cause to exist, therefore, there most be at the end of the chain a self evident existence to give rise to the existence of the whole chain.
@NH-or8bo
5 жыл бұрын
A typical religious ignoramus response to science .....admit it there may be a need for believing in superpower but evidence(science) the best which the human brain can come up with so far in history suggests otherwise and if you are an average person with average intellectual and common sense,you know there can’t possible be a power out there called God /god ....if you are an intellectual or a well read person with honesty and integrity, then you know all religious stories are like bed time stories to the mass .....I don’t understand this debates and discussions over creation, evolution or the existence of God science and religion are mutually exclusive , science goes with evidence and religion goes with fabricated stories
@Sultanrashidd
5 жыл бұрын
N H ad hominem attacks, which are a fallacy. But who am I kidding how would you know that since you have no knowledge whatsoever in philosophy. Secondly you are saying science is the best human mind can come up with ? Lol are you ready to justify that claim by providing some evidence ? Philosophy is the best the human can come up with, deduction is the best. Maths is deduction and maths is much more credible than the scientific method. The universe coming from nothing is a bedtime story, abiogenesis is a bed time story, liberalism and the multiverse is a bed time story which I’m sure you believe in all of them because you are a dumb fuck. Lastly God can be deduced quite easily and It’s natural to believe in God. One of the highest intellectual people ever known to man Sir Isaac Newton believed in God. Are you now implying you’re more intelligent than him ? Please provide any evidence against God if it’s that obvious ? But let me help you have none, therefore all you can do is make emotional, irrational and personal arguments which have no credibility or evidence to back them up. So do the world a favor and kill yourself because you are a disgrace to the intellect of the human being, worthless idiotic scum.
@ibnisaa
4 жыл бұрын
@Underground Fights Anonymous lol your ignorance is showing. You obviously have no knowledge on the topic of which you speak because that statement made no sense
@ibnisaa
4 жыл бұрын
@Underground Fights Anonymous regardless of my belief, your statement still makes no sense.
@ismaieladen4814
5 жыл бұрын
ALHAMADUILLAH...Just the video i needed today :D BarakAllah Feekum Br.Suboor and SC Dawah :D
@hemaamr7124
5 жыл бұрын
I love br subboor for the sake of Allah so intelligent Masha allah ❤
@jeffallcock4561
4 жыл бұрын
Such a smooth liar, as sanctioned in the Koran
@hemaamr7124
4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffallcock4561 highly mistaken my guy, may God guide both you and i.
@phoenixplayz1581
4 жыл бұрын
@@gustgoris8009 What lie to call someone a liar you have to provide the lie he told
@lewis72
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffallcock4561 "Such a smooth liar" - Haha. Well said.
@اممغربية-ح6ش
5 жыл бұрын
المرجو من القائمين على القناة ترجمة هذا الفيديو بالعربية حتى تعم الفائدة على غير الناطقين باللغة الإنجليزية و خصوصا بعض المغرر بهم من الدارونيين العرب.
@sandifarah1641
5 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@hamzazulfi
5 жыл бұрын
Jazakallah Brother Subbor for this wonderful debate. May Allah grant him success in this life and the next. And may his intentions remain good and pure. Ameen
@dolphinton
5 жыл бұрын
Ameen
@hamzazulfi
5 жыл бұрын
@@sturlaorarson4411 Who is pure evil?
@hamzazulfi
5 жыл бұрын
@@sturlaorarson4411 And how did you conclude that he is objectively pure evil? You must have an objective moral basis or source to conclude that. Kindly tell me the objective basis or source. Moreover, after New Zealand shooting, I don't believe that you should call him "pure evil".
@hamzazulfi
5 жыл бұрын
@@sturlaorarson4411 Thanks for your replies. Your comments are an indication of your inability to respond to my questions. It would be futile to continue this thread any further. Thanks again.
@hamzazulfi
5 жыл бұрын
@@sturlaorarson4411 If you believe there is no objective morality then "pure evil" is a subjective term which is neither here nor there. You think he is pure evil and I think he is good. It is just your subjective assessment which can't be proven objectively according to your understanding.
@covffchannel
5 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work al humdulillaah
@عبداللهالمزيني-ت4ث
5 жыл бұрын
جزاكم الله خيرا .
@hidayaamani2904
5 жыл бұрын
Imagine believing that life emerged by itself in primordial earth environment, yet being unable to produce the simplest life form in the most expensive and advanced laboratories. I'm talking about one single living cell! Can you imagine that?
@anplusdre
5 жыл бұрын
That is why not all scientist is atheist
@fatherra2534
5 жыл бұрын
ok, then the cell evolves to survive in the conditions it is in. Got a problem with that? Sounds like you're walking down Schizophrenia avenue.
@anplusdre
5 жыл бұрын
@@fatherra2534 riddle me this, which cell decide(ahem with rationality) to evolve to be the female genetic?. And what cell/bacteria with it's rationality so ingeniously evolve so they have a genitals to put offspring to the opposite genetics (if it knew there are) ?
@fatherra2534
5 жыл бұрын
@@anplusdre what kind of nonsense question is that? I don't even have time to reply so here's the link with everything: www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/how-we-evolved-into-male-and-female/
@EpikMunk
5 жыл бұрын
@@fatherra2534 - you can't answer a question so you call it nonsense 😂😂 I just read through that article you posted as a reply to the questioner, it doesn't answer his question so nice attempt to dodge.
@BoysInTheCave
5 жыл бұрын
Alhamdullilah it was a great debate. We were present at the debate in the crowd, and we were also able to ask our question (which you can check out at 1:46:13). Also May Allah reward Br. Subboor Ahmad immensely as he also took out time to record an episode with us as well. That episode you can check out here in shaa Allah: kzitem.info/news/bejne/rImdrmeunGKYm5w
@nosubjectivity-intellectan8233
5 жыл бұрын
guys tell bigger platform to post clips or whole of these videos on their channels, such as mercifulservants
@banabak6732
5 жыл бұрын
Im in Sydney. How did I miss this :(
@Muslim4life76
5 жыл бұрын
HOW come ur not on fb anymore?
@banabak6732
5 жыл бұрын
@@Muslim4life76 I needed a break Re opened a page facebook.com/oytun.gungor.33
@mohamedhm8085
5 жыл бұрын
DNA is not what's responsible for life on itself . It's mearly a program or book of instructions (a bunch information ) on how to run an already alive cell. To say that we stared with a " hello world! " Program and ended up with the program to run Humans by natural selection is mindless in my opinion. No matter how we apply selection (choosing the best Program according to some criteria ) to the results of the simple changes (mutations) of the basic program we started with, we will never be able to raise the level of complexity of the program unless we add some new information. To increase the complexity we must raise (or increment) the number of degrees of freedom ( variables ) of the basic program. And no simple mutation can produce a new degrees of freedom like no simple transformation in 2D plane can produce a 3D object . In nature around us we see that complexity overtime is spontaneously lost not gained. It requires intelligence and knowledge to inverse this process. It the same principle we use to make our machines and engines. You just have to open you eyes. Peace
@aboalighazali9597
5 жыл бұрын
Ma sha Allah we need our brothers to work hard to study science and do research in order to show people that Islam is not against science.
@aali1992
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately many people have doubted Islam, left Islam, misinterpreted the Qur'an or have become atheists simply because of the propaganda. Alhamdulillah, now that brother Suboor is doing an amazing job, people will now learn what blind faith really is. 😂
@mj897
5 жыл бұрын
The beginning of the video shaboor said that evolution is the best theory for a probabilistic framework.. and by induction that means it's better then a creationist theory..but then he doubts induction but happy to get on a plane and fly to Australia to give a talk that basic scientific methodology is flawed... but trust the engineers that designed a plane which for the record use much more assumptions then a biologist. This is just an argument over the literal meaning of the word fact disguised as a scientific discussion
@huseeynabdulahi249
5 жыл бұрын
@@mj897 Just because he disproves and destroyed your believe doesn't mean that he can not fly to Australia with a plane By the way Airplane was first introduced by a Muslim called : cabbas ibn farnas عباس إبن فرناس in Arabic so we were the ones who started allot of things before your so-called scientists 😀🙂
@mj897
5 жыл бұрын
@@huseeynabdulahi249 he can do what he likes..just makes him slightly hypocritical...he's using philosophy off science arguments that have existed for 100 years plus... for most people they seem impressive.. Do not pick and choose science when you want to.. Let me recommend his colleague at iera hamza tzortis on the paper there are no miracles in the Qur'an.. Arabs may have had a glory period due to the stability of Islamic rule not Islam it self... Let me make it clear I have the up most respect for Islam but to make irrational arguments only devalues it.
@mj897
5 жыл бұрын
@@huseeynabdulahi249 great aviation manufacturing industry in the Muslim world?
@lahoucine66
5 жыл бұрын
The scientific translation of the verses of embryology: Q22:5 O mankind! if you are in doubt concerning the Resurrection, then lo! We (inform you that we ) have created you from a gamete/ovum , then from a zygote , then from an Blastocyst/adherent , then from a disc which is differentiated and not differentiated... ABIOGENESIS (beginning of life) IN CLAY AND EVOLUTION (of man) FROM ANOTHER SPECIES : Q23:12 And indeed We created man out of a species/progeny/life form which originated from clay. (12) Thereafter We made him into a Zygote in a welcoming stable lodging (endometrium). (13) Then We made the zygote into a Blastocyst/adherent , then We made the Blastocyst/adherent into a disc , then We made out of the disc bones (notochord), then We clothed the bones with muscles, and then We made him into another creation. So Blessed is Allâh, the Best of creators ------------------------------------------------ THE SURPRISE: Adam was a modern human who was created from a female like jesus . He was not the first man : Quran 3:59 Truly, the likeness of Jesus, in God's sight, is as Adam's likeness; He created him from a gamete/ovum , then said He unto him, 'Be,' and he was being . - The three germ layers & three prenatal stages : Q39:6 He creates you in the bellies of your mothers, creation after creation, in a threefold darknesses. Notochord's function as axis for muscles attatchment : en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notochord Endometrium receptivity: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3409914/
@itsbilly5238
5 жыл бұрын
Al hamdulilah
@afzalakbari2791
5 жыл бұрын
Alhamdu lillah for islam. love you brother saboor for the sake of Allah (swt) from india
@arunadarboe2887
5 жыл бұрын
Respect Bro saboor what a beautiful breakdown
@dimas-kf9ff
5 жыл бұрын
Please translate to bahasa indonesia thanks.sc dahwah nusantara (indonesia)
@rashid2hussain
5 жыл бұрын
This man is doing excellent work for young Muslims who don't have sufficient knowledge of Islam.
@Robot588
5 жыл бұрын
Ma Sha Allah. Our brother suboor is very wise person. Good debate between brothers James and Suboor
@dadush4
2 жыл бұрын
I'm so bothered by the fact that all these atheists keep hiding behind a pillar of scientific research and humility towards the truth, yet their conclusion ALWAYS contains the words "this is true, this is truth, this is how it is..." This disingenuous way of speaking is really annoying me.. During the definition phase: "A fact means something has a high probability of being true but can be changed to something which is better" During the conclusion: "That's why I believe this is a fact and it is absolutely true." It's so frustrating.. Pick a side already, stop pretending to be "looking for the truth" and "knowing the real truth" at the same time!!
@painduvidz9912
5 жыл бұрын
After watching this debate I can truly say that philosophy is indeed dead. With a background in philosophy myself, an interest in Islamic philosophy and a Muslim. For a long time I defended the field of philosophy and its use, but truly cant anymore. This discussion for me was the epitome how it does not contribute to anything (and for the last 100 years) anymore, it is useless... Absolute big respect and thanks to James Foder, who took his time and effort to explain (briefly) the theory and participate with the discussion. Very unfortunate we could not see the slides as well, which could have give an even stronger message.
@xiayolevis6033
5 жыл бұрын
Buahaha James got his ass owned in this Debate Hahaha. Let me ask you a philosophical question. If your mind is a product of blind, naturalistic, mechanical process then how can you trust it including your claim that philosophy is dead. Lol
@painduvidz9912
5 жыл бұрын
@@xiayolevis6033 Props to Subhoor for trying. I always respect the effort they put to defend our religion. Try reading about what Al Ghazali thinks about philosophy.
@عبدالرحمنآلثاني-ف3ف
3 жыл бұрын
@@painduvidz9912 the philosophy al ghazali speaks about isn’t the same kind of philosophy spoken about in the contemporary western context
@madbullmadbull6386
5 жыл бұрын
They deny God because they just cant see him physically.
@jeffallcock4561
4 жыл бұрын
Who can? You?
@avischannel6038
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffallcock4561 Then that doesn't prove His nonexistence
@avischannel6038
3 жыл бұрын
By His, I didn't mean it in the sense of gender...
@jeffallcock4561
3 жыл бұрын
@@avischannel6038 There is more circumstantial evidence to prove the existence of the Loch Ness Mo.nster than there is to prove the existence of yr god, or anyone else's.
@lewis72
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffallcock4561 All hail dear Nessy !!!
@chingpong7218
5 жыл бұрын
Muslim are great
@jeffallcock4561
4 жыл бұрын
At lying. At subversion. At terrorism.
@tobi4637
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffallcock4561 the most lie is human come from ape..not even lie but stupid also..
@dadush4
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffallcock4561 nice display of lying, subversion and social terrorism :o !
@sadeqsafi3266
5 жыл бұрын
و قل جاالحق و زهق الباطل ان الباطل كان زهوقاً And say, when the truth come the falsehood perish as falsehood is perishable by nature.
@anplusdre
5 жыл бұрын
1 + 1 = 2 is certain and that is a fact because it's natural character is will not change, have working models, and consistency. There bro, fact cannot be just fact, you need to fulfil certain characters to consider things to become a fact. 1. Certain (unchanged/will not changed) 2. Unchallengeable 3. Incorrigible I think you need better research at fact James.
@anplusdre
5 жыл бұрын
Well finally James said, "science will coming out and arrive at to truth" 55:34
@MansMan42069
4 жыл бұрын
Even then, that's with the reasonable assumption that we're working in anything except base 2, in which case 1 + 1 = 10
@Lutestick
3 жыл бұрын
@@MansMan42069 that is still two just in a different format. That is like saying apple isn’t an apple anymore if you call it in the Arabic language.
@MansMan42069
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lutestick and that's the genius of it. A dishonest person will say 1 + 1 can be both 2 AND 10 then say 2 equals 10 while neglecting to mention the change in base.
@rahul7270
5 жыл бұрын
1:10:07 Subboor: Just a thought experiment. Say I'm somebody who says, "Okay, the Earth is not four billion years old about five billion years old and there's actually seventeen origins of life and I just changed the history of life in some way. An evolutionary biologist who's working in a lab who's working on, say, trying to discover new antibodies, that's not gonna make a difference to what they're doing at all. So, a historical reconstruction is not going to change say some real-life work." Subboor didn't start off with a hypothetical assumption of any historical reconstruction regarding evolution or the theory; his thought experiment went like: "Say I'm somebody who says, "Okay, the Earth is not four billion years old..." That's not the same as supposing that evolutionary history was different. Subboor (perhaps erroneously) equated making a claim to that claim being true. If, on the other hand, he intended to say that if evolutionary history was indeed drastically different than what's currently accepted, then he was wrong in concluding that it would have no influence in biological research (including the discipline of evolutionary biology).
@anakkonda3650
5 жыл бұрын
Why this not in my recommention for 2 month..??
@أسدالأطلس-ث5غ
5 жыл бұрын
اسالكم بالله ان تترجمو هذا المقطع للأخ صبور
@Anixeno
5 жыл бұрын
Buckle up bois, this is gonna be liiiiit! oh yeah yeah
@ebk_72
5 жыл бұрын
We don't do that here.
@VirtualAnomly
5 жыл бұрын
@@ebk_72 What buckle up? Don't you have seat belts where u live?
@ebk_72
5 жыл бұрын
@@VirtualAnomly ever heard of memes?
@shameemnassiree2780
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting one
@qkqk6954
5 жыл бұрын
James said he has a realistic scientific view and gave an example that science must be real because it made us land on the moon. What has darwinian evolution produced? I mean the instruments used in microbiolgy aren't the result of darwinian evolution, medicine isnt the result of darwinian evolution.
@helsharidy123
5 жыл бұрын
@@gloomy5823 Yeah it has produced workable models that can show us how things work. It's very useful, please don't get this shit mixed up, but trying to ask a why question is a different beast than a how and that requires a lot of inference and that inference does not necessarily have to conform with our ideas of what's reasonable and what's not.
@huseeynabdulahi249
5 жыл бұрын
@@gloomy5823 By denying that this earth was created by God? Is that your logic?😧
@fatherra2534
5 жыл бұрын
@@huseeynabdulahi249 what God? I can name you 4,200.
@lestahass8849
5 жыл бұрын
@@fatherra2534 there's only one God. Different religions interpret it differently. I.e. Even though Christians believe that holy trinity stuff they still believe it's in one (ik it doesn't make sense but I ain't a Christian). Even hindus despite them being knows as the biggest polytheist religion they still believe in a higher power and they use these "gods" to get closer. Thsi can be applied to any religion unless its a pagan belief. However Islam on the other hand practise monotheism. Allah is simply the arabic word for "The God"
@madbullmadbull6386
5 жыл бұрын
@@helsharidy123 its athiest secular monoply its full of ssss theory.
@brooobrooo3392
5 жыл бұрын
When was this im from syd
@grenangle
5 жыл бұрын
Waffle and word salad. Muddy the water to obscure the truth.
@imaneamouna681
5 жыл бұрын
Please translat this video to arabic we really need this
@عبدالرحمنالقادري-ظ2ب
5 жыл бұрын
مناظرة رائعة .. جزاكم الله خيرًا
@xiayolevis6033
5 жыл бұрын
My Brain Hurts.............
@anakkonda3650
5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@allanhallah6038
5 жыл бұрын
That watermelon looked quite delicious
@huseeynabdulahi249
5 жыл бұрын
Br khabib how are you man? You won against that kafir 🤣😂😌😊🙂🤗🤗🙂🙂 you gave his medicine right? Or are you someone else?🤣😂😧😳🙂
@alial_duleme7282
5 жыл бұрын
Please can you translate to Arabic 😭😭😢
@huseeynabdulahi249
5 жыл бұрын
ماادري أيش أقول لك بس أنا أفهم اللغة الانجليزية وءاسف إذا ماتفهم 😧😳🙂🤣😂😂😂😂☹☹☹☹☹☹☹☹😌☹🙂
@Cookiebear_dhx
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing debate from both sides
@rose708
5 жыл бұрын
Alhamdulilah
@مريم...العابدةلله
5 жыл бұрын
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله تعالى و بركاته... ياريت لو هناك ترجمة
@kennethwhite8045
5 жыл бұрын
It's a FACT that James Foder's entire presentation was wishy washy.
@theblankers1055
5 жыл бұрын
Pls translit indo brother
@AsimKhan-vk1hi
5 жыл бұрын
السلام عليكم Is brother Subboor still in Australia?
@ebrahemya3509
5 жыл бұрын
نتمنى الترجمة للعربية
@safetsalihovic5372
4 жыл бұрын
We know that universe had a beginning because we exist today.
@SonoftheFortunate
3 жыл бұрын
Logical reasoning.
@Rico-Suave_
2 жыл бұрын
Watched all of it
@Khaledf
4 жыл бұрын
Please make it with Arabic subtitle.
@ahmedmaraouf
4 жыл бұрын
To those who are believing in the theory of evolution, is “Human” the last phase or there is another being will emerge?
@freeman7983
2 жыл бұрын
masha ALLAH
@canamotion
5 жыл бұрын
Alhamdullah
@thesunnah..1737
5 жыл бұрын
bro suboor i love your beard. i wish mine was like you. mashah allah your soooo smart.
@bangladesh408
5 жыл бұрын
James is scientist and saboor is a philosopher
@ahlulhadith6367
5 жыл бұрын
Yes. On a side note every science has a philosophy. It has a methodology and assumptions. Philosophy is the foundation of how sciences operate.
@bangladesh408
5 жыл бұрын
@@ahlulhadith6367 for darwinism or Biology we dont need philosophy. We have empirical evidence.
@ahlulhadith6367
5 жыл бұрын
@@bangladesh408 There are concepts in darwinism that are definitely not empirical. For example the belief that humans and chimps share a common ancestor or universal common ancestry. But philosophy is very much needed in biology and darwinism.
@derstreetfoodmann2161
5 жыл бұрын
without philosophiccal basis, science is only a list of rare data which tells u nothing. just when you have a method based on philosophy of science you can derive ideas from the data
@bangladesh408
5 жыл бұрын
@@ahlulhadith6367 there is no believe system in Biology. Human and chimp ancestory is not religion . Its based on thousands time examination by different experts.
@motivatedmuslim_Talks
4 жыл бұрын
Good debate
@harunrasid2094
5 жыл бұрын
We need to engage with wisdom with ebody xtians, hindus, atheists etc everywhr whether it is uni halls, speakers corners, streets etc. But mind the freedom of speech not to insult and to hate.
@soleil3gs
5 жыл бұрын
Masha Allah
@akme2d
5 жыл бұрын
When you start debating them their based on their philosophical you lose. You should forget all these terms, make it symbol and take the quran and the sunnah approach.
@ocerco93
5 жыл бұрын
akme2d smh... what u Talking bout ? Its a evolution debate, not islam vs atheism debate
@inderjeetsingh8673
2 жыл бұрын
I would believe the scientist working on field with data rather than some philosopher who is cooking some shit based on his perceptions.
@-_--2249
5 жыл бұрын
ترجموا الفيديو إلى اللغة العربية جزاكم الله خيرا
@Rico-Suave_
2 жыл бұрын
When people talk about reconciling science and religion, that is only an issue with people who have preconceived ideas, but scientists cannot/should-not have preconceived ideas they must believe the evidence. All scientific models must conform to NATURE or REALITY, If there is any tiny evidence for some unnatural forces then they must include that in their paper and account for it. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .
@huseeynabdulahi249
5 жыл бұрын
And want Arabic translation or j mean Arabic subtitles
@glassmanorangjitra
5 жыл бұрын
someone challenged me to provide Subbor's credentials. can anyone help me out?
@zaifajs
3 жыл бұрын
Bsc in Engineering, masters in Philosophy from Birkbeck College (University of London). He is currently a PhD candidate specialising in the philosophy of biology.
@albeca7591
3 жыл бұрын
Is a book a fact?
@mohammeduthman436
5 жыл бұрын
atheists rekt
@johnlemmon1193
5 жыл бұрын
how lol athiesm is the lack of belief in god nothing to do with evolution
@johnlemmon1193
5 жыл бұрын
@Ninja FEESE some do and some dont but i dont think suboor disproved evolution either
@mohammeduthman436
5 жыл бұрын
trap god he destroyed evolution and atheism, without evolution atheism is just mere conjecture and one is forced ro resort onto agnosticism
@johnlemmon1193
5 жыл бұрын
@@mohammeduthman436 athiesm is not dependant on evolution as i said in my first comment athiesm is simply a lack of belief in god no more or no less as for evolution he didnt destroy it in anyway he just said there are other alternative theories and its not a 100 percent fact which was never the claim
@mohammeduthman436
5 жыл бұрын
trap god you are so uneducated, totally ignored what i said, read Mind and Cosmos by Thomas Nagel
@zamtube791
5 жыл бұрын
Debating a well-paid profession nowadays, especially one between religion and science. There is no preaching in Religion anymore, so is no knowledge in science, but egotistical nature to prove other wrong...
@Rico-Suave_
2 жыл бұрын
Many people who convert to Islam or revert back to Christianity is because religious organizations provide a sense of community, comradely, fellowship and a sense of belonging. These powerful emotional needs are fulfilled, even if religions are not historically and scientifically accurate or just myths. "ignorance is a bliss" Matrix-quote.
@malik2433
3 жыл бұрын
The earth doesn't go around the sun though.
@shahjahanmiah7545
5 жыл бұрын
Within the vast amount of experiment where science test and observes to reach a conclusion than years later, they do the same experiment and test within new data to reach a new contradictory conclusion to the last conclusion... so any scientific result are not “set in stone” and is open to amendments. Unlike the word/claims of God, which is yet to be contradictory.
@Rico-Suave_
2 жыл бұрын
It’s non-intuitive to understand that all this complexity is just natural and no intervention of any being is required, it’s much much simpler and easier for humans to believe that some being did it magically, especially when we are indoctrinated to believe from a very early age by our parents, teachers, leaders, elders practically everyone. And if we don’t conform to our parents religions then we can be shunned, disowned and possibly harmed. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist .
@كفىبالموتواعظا-ل8ظ
5 жыл бұрын
ترجمة. .؟
@StripedJacket
5 жыл бұрын
John, James, jingleheimer Smith, his name is my name too!
@PiperTMTotalWar
4 жыл бұрын
Arguing against evolution is like arguing the earth is flat. It's stupid.
@Uroojis96
3 жыл бұрын
He's arguing against a specific type of evolution. Inter species evolution to be exact ;)
@SonoftheFortunate
3 жыл бұрын
@@Uroojis96 Exactly he never said that species do not biologically change overtime. He was targeting a specific type of evolution
@inderjeetsingh8673
2 жыл бұрын
what the philosophy has to do anything with science and what the fk is philosophy of science.
@BboyMino
5 жыл бұрын
Mashallah
@Rico-Suave_
2 жыл бұрын
A scholar in any religion is the same as a scholar in Zues or Odin or any other myth. Choosing to major in theology or becoming in scholar in religion is like marrying your kidnapper, because you are becoming an expert in myths you were brainwashed in as an innocent child. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist,
@canamotion
5 жыл бұрын
A theory must not be an evidence for another theory.
@bibibibi2680
4 жыл бұрын
💐👍🏿
@wolfal-hayani8398
4 жыл бұрын
there are alot of things i cant undestand from a darwinian worldview. like the concept of good of evil. i dont think there is good and bad from a darwinian worldview. and also why do people feel emotions like guilt? i dont think animals have emotions like guilt because animals are all about surviving and reproducing.
@hareecionelson5875
4 жыл бұрын
Without morality humans would not have got this far: unlike other animals we are pretty defenceless and thus mutual cooperation was crucial to survival. Morality and language is the human equivalent to speed or claws. Asking why a human has a conscience is like asking why a cheetah is fast.
@SonoftheFortunate
3 жыл бұрын
@@hareecionelson5875 Which is why he/she stated it from a Darwinian perspective
@hareecionelson5875
3 жыл бұрын
@@SonoftheFortunate Morality is a human evolutionary adaptation. That's the Darwinian perspective. Good and Evil are points are subjective, to an extent, but if we want to live in a society that has a high quality of life for its citizens, there are laws that we must agree to live by, or else we end up back in the stone age. You could go on a crime spree if you wanted, and, philosophically, a darwinist cannot claim you are 'wrong' against any objective criteria, but they'll put you in prison anyway, because it's in their best interest to put you in prison.
@rickb.4168
5 жыл бұрын
You dont need to assume common decent, you can hypothesise it due to homology, then see if you can find evidence to back it up or not. Chromosone 2 helped back up the hypothesis. The religious use assumptions. Science doesn't.
@ProudNoobDXB
5 жыл бұрын
Lol. Hypotheses and theories are then what exactly? Science starts with an "assumption" and tries to prove it to make it a Fact or Law. Newton's law was a law until it was debunked few years ago. Darwinism and most atheistic philosophies are pure assumptions with no hard evidence
@harshfodo7970
4 жыл бұрын
@@ProudNoobDXB "science starts with an assumption and TRIES to PROVE it to MAKE IT A FACT OR A LAW" and " Newton's law was debunked many years ago" what are you smoking bro? You're a proud noob indeed, how about you stick to playing COD, chugging mountain dew and dusting dorrito dust off yourself eh.
@ProudNoobDXB
4 жыл бұрын
@@harshfodo7970 what a useless response. No point made. Make your point or case and stop vomiting "nothing" lol.
@harshfodo7970
4 жыл бұрын
@@ProudNoobDXB my point was rhetorical, you can figure that out by my use of capital letters and 'what are you smoking bro?'. Here let me give you another example 'Darwinism is PURE ASSUMPTION with NO HARD EVIDENCE', again what are you smoking bro? If I wanted a meaningful discussion I would've corrected your abysmal definition of the scientific method and asked you wtf do mean by no hard evidence? But I don't have any patience for that so I'll stick to rhetoric and hope some kind soul comes along and cures your poor comprehension.
@ProudNoobDXB
4 жыл бұрын
@@harshfodo7970 that was a long reply for someone who doesn't care haha. You sound like you're on your period lol. So whiny. Anyways, Darwinism doesn't have inconclusive evidence til this day. This isn't news. It's basic high school science, you start with a hypothesis/assumption and test it and build your case... This is literally grade 10 science. Are you getting technical about the words u nerd? And one of Newton's "Laws" was said not to be to be true at all times recently. Not much of a scientific Law innit?
@huseeynabdulahi249
5 жыл бұрын
There are people who speak arabuc
@madbullmadbull6386
5 жыл бұрын
Evolution is godless theory of creation.
@MrKaugaban
5 жыл бұрын
Fact is certain.
@Rico-Suave_
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t see any evidence for anything un-natural, therefore I am not convinced that there is anything unnatural or supernatural like magic, ‘jadoo’, spirits, ghost, ‘jins’, ‘rooh’ and gods . originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist ,
@madbullmadbull6386
5 жыл бұрын
Waste of time
@madbullmadbull6386
5 жыл бұрын
Scientific bs
@vincebernau127
5 жыл бұрын
1:30 plot twist : the earth really IS flat ;)
@Seanus32
5 жыл бұрын
43.25 - 43.30: Subboor makes a very good point here but I would say that the Koran/Quran also doesn't explain Creation (Muslims openly admit this) and its mechanisms and he is a Muslim. Just sth to think about :)
@TamilanMalayali
5 жыл бұрын
Every explanation about the origin of life in earth, in science is hypothetical
@Seanus32
5 жыл бұрын
@@TamilanMalayali So how was a bird created, for example?
@DryDownfall
5 жыл бұрын
@@Seanus32why does that matter
@Seanus32
5 жыл бұрын
@@DryDownfall Was that a joke question? Without any conception whatsoever of your Creator, where is the sense?
@hidayaamani2904
5 жыл бұрын
Qu'ran does talk about Creation, but I honestly don't understand the question about the bird. Do you want a scientific explanation?
@madbullmadbull6386
5 жыл бұрын
Liers for sure
@rickb.4168
5 жыл бұрын
I love how the Religious exoect scientists to jump through flaming hoops to prove a theory to the tiniest degree, and then they proudly declare their scientific belief by saying. MAGIC MAN DONE IT!
@baleriontheblackdread4491
5 жыл бұрын
I didn't watch the debate but let me guess , what subbor means by a fact is something which is 100% certain
@harunrasid2094
5 жыл бұрын
Theory is not 100% certain. U will die..tts is fact and 100% certain. If u dont know diff between fact n theory then go back to kindy school!
@baleriontheblackdread4491
5 жыл бұрын
@@harunrasid2094 fact and theory are not mutually exclusive
@harunrasid2094
5 жыл бұрын
Dont just guess bastard balerion. How cn u guess wihout watching the debate? U guess only after u watched. U a really bastard..now tts a fact
@baleriontheblackdread4491
5 жыл бұрын
@@harunrasid2094 i love you too
@yaserahmed1339
5 жыл бұрын
Harun Rasid no need to swear bruv wth
@dalmar5567
5 жыл бұрын
James Foder. : We come from monkey Suboor Ahmed: We come from human Who should I believe?
@masternobin
5 жыл бұрын
Truth hurts
@incardianify
5 жыл бұрын
Should I call him a militant Islamist, because the other side of the coin to that would be the militant athiest.
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