I would be interested in listening to any debate between DBH and Calvinist theologians if any such debates exist on Utube ?
@philip8802
4 жыл бұрын
Matt slick vs bently would be amazing
@TheHumbuckerboy
4 жыл бұрын
Matt " I can't say that Universalists are Christians" Slick v David Bentley Hart ... yes that would be one that I would be interested in .
@akimoetam1282
4 жыл бұрын
Steve C slick would get crushed. John MacArthur i would like to see...also because hart would crush him too. Maybe Michael Horton or r Clark Scott
@joachim847
4 жыл бұрын
That will never happen.
@TheHumbuckerboy
4 жыл бұрын
@@joachim847 That is a shame IMO Come let us reason together ?
@bradleymarshall5489
8 ай бұрын
One thing I would add however is it's somewhat of a mistake to ascribe hard election to all of the reformed thinkers. Some fo the scholastics such as John Davenant for example actually developed a hypothetical universalism where the non-elect could be saved as well.
@joelkelly4154
3 жыл бұрын
What linguistic and historical studies is he referring to?
@helenjarvis7755
3 жыл бұрын
I am not a fan of the NIV
@---zc4qt
2 жыл бұрын
The WORST translation ever made was by Weymouth.
@brotherandrew3393
2 жыл бұрын
First: The audio quality is poor. Second: You are only talking about Calvinism. But Calvinists do have more bible verses to justify their wrong theology. It is more about context and interpretation than about translation.
@rickbluecloud531
3 жыл бұрын
Do we ignore the fact that Paul taught stuff that Messiah didn't teach? Messiah plainly said that no one comes to the Father unless they are chosen, and drawn with cords of love. He also said, "He has created all things for Himself, including the wicked for the day of destruction".
@christhayer5034
3 жыл бұрын
If it appears to be contradictory then you have the wrong understanding. All the scriptures come from the same divine source.
@rickbluecloud531
3 жыл бұрын
@@christhayer5034 all true scripture comes from the same Source. The Bible is what the church and state did to the scriptures. And your belief about it is based on what you have been taught from childhood. But it's not consistent with what Messiah says,and it doesn't even make sense when you consider how many different versions there are, and the true Name is replaced almost completely in all of them. Then there are the epistles of Paul, the lying murderer who was given the heart and bulk of the new testament, because church and state favors him over Messiah. If the truth is important to you, ponder this seriously: the warning in revelation 22 wasn't given just to fill the page. The original pure complete and unchanging word is the spirit of our creator and Messiah, not the paper and ink work of man. This is not my belief but what I know for sure to be true.
@christhayer5034
3 жыл бұрын
@@rickbluecloud531 Wow. Talk about a skeptic. I guess you know better than the church fathers. You must have some special knowledge like the early gnostics who were deemed heretics. The versions are called translations some are more interpretations. You can always learn greek and Hebrew like the scholars. Here’s the thing Christ said he would build His church and the gates of hades wouldn’t prevail. Don’t get hung up on transliterated text.
@rickbluecloud531
3 жыл бұрын
@@christhayer5034 I was born again from above 40 years ago, and have trusted and followed the Most High since then. So my confidence is great, and not to be confused with pride. I have nothing to be proud about. I only have what I'm given, and I have been given much in order to do the work I'm given to do.That is, to simplify and clarify truth that has been hidden or twisted by the church.
@rickbluecloud531
3 жыл бұрын
@@christhayer5034 I don't deny that there is some value in studying Greek and Hebrew for those who are led that way as scholars. But we err gravely if we lose sight of the fact that the original, pure, complete, and unchanging Word is the Spirit of our Creator and Messiah, not the paper and ink work of man. Even the original Scriptures were not meant to be more than supplemental. Many are saved without scriptures; but no one is saved without the Spirit.
@SamOgilvieJr
3 жыл бұрын
NIV=worst Biblical translation ever
@joachim847
3 жыл бұрын
The Nearly Inspired Version.
@rickbluecloud531
3 жыл бұрын
All Bibles are corruption of scripture. Even the KJV is about as pure as the king it was named after.
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