Fun fact. My mothers funeral was crashed by a complete stranger. It was a tiny service of about 20 people held in a chapel in a cemetery. An elderly and casual dressed gentleman joined the mourners and sat through the entire service. I asked the funeral directors who he was and they said that he lived near the cemetery and had a habit of attending random funerals. He wasn’t disruptive, he just sat up the back quietly. The funeral directors asked us if we wanted them to move him on but we thought that mum would have got a kick out of it. So we left him be. So I guess funeral crashing is actually a thing.
@DeliveryMcGee
2 жыл бұрын
My father and his brothers used to crash family reunions for the free food. If challenged, they'd just say "I'm John's cousin-in-law" because, statistically, everybody in the US has a relative named John.
@laurenmp7486
2 жыл бұрын
@@DeliveryMcGee and given the size of some family reunions, good chance of not being noticed in the first place.
@christinebenson518
2 жыл бұрын
@@DeliveryMcGee I have an uncle John and a cousin John on different sides. Lots of repeat names, though I'd rather have repeats than a cousin's kid named Malibu Barbie or Bliss.
@aphrog649
2 жыл бұрын
@@christinebenson518 i see you also know about trisha’s baby
@artdonovandesign
2 жыл бұрын
Funeral Crashing ( respectfully) was brought to the public's attention in the American film, "Harold and Maude" (1971).
@mildredflemyng-middleton4795
2 жыл бұрын
On people who randomly go to funerals: they may also be people who feel like they're doing a service, making sure that the deceased gets mourned by someone, at least for a little bit, because every human has worth, etc. Edit: He may not have had that rare clinical dissociative fugue, or any dissociative disorder at all, but he could still have had a dissociative-esque episode without that. Part of this thought is definitely me projecting, because I've had at least one period. Mild stressors all piled up and I stopped being entirely rational, though fortunately not to his degree since I also had a pretty rigid life schedule/framework, but I was basically operating on automatic, and very little of that period made it into my long term memory. Later I looked back at some work I had saved on my computer and it was the only proof I had that I had actually done anything. The period only lasted a few days, and it's been almost a decade, but sometimes it still scares me when I look back at it.
@ryanc473
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing with the random people going to a funeral of a Jane/John Doe. It's one of those things where I don't think it's so much for enjoyment as it is a sense of duty to your fellow human being. Idk, in a weird way it makes sense to me
@PetrSojnek
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it happens elsewhere, but here it's not uncommon for people to join funeral of strangers (as in, it's funeral of known person, but along family, friends etc, some people attending don't know them at all), I think some people treat it as a little bit different church service, also I would agree that the feeling "well, what if no one comes? will they leave completely alone?" comes to it. Often it's older people, so maybe they also think "If I happen to be in this situation, maybe some stranger will come to my funeral too, so I'm not leaving completely alone". I think Simon is not a believer, so he probably can't understand the sentiment? (But then for nonbeliever sentiment of funeral must be kinda macabre, basically saying goodbye to a corpse).
@ryanc473
2 жыл бұрын
@@PetrSojnek honestly, it's one of those things where I don't know if you necessarily need to believe in an afterlife to just feel like every person deserves to be missed, remembered, even if only for a little bit by a stranger. Obviously if you believe in an afterlife it can be a little more significant, but even still, even if you don't, I can imagine still thinking that everyone deserves a goodbye, even if they're not necessarily around to care
@thecatdragon589
Жыл бұрын
i do think he may have been dissociated while walking down the street, i have a dissociative disorder and it has caused me to do that sort of thing. however, i thinkbits more likely he had some sort of midlife crisis, and the dissociation was a one-off thing
@anima6035
Жыл бұрын
I would totally go to a John/jane doe funeral, it's sad to think someone could have a funeral with no one there. During COVID there were people buried with no attendees at the funeral, I read an article in which they interviewed an undertaker who described feeling upset for the deceased whose family could/would not attend. Very sad.
@colinr1960
2 жыл бұрын
Back in the early ‘90’s I worked with a guy whose rented house backed onto a cemetery. Quite often he would see a funeral in progress, he’d get a suit on and join in with the mourners. Listen to the priest etc and he would glean enough to pay commiserations to family and often go back to the local club or pub for a wake. “Where’d you know Harry from? Oh, worked with him years ago….want a beer?” Apparently, he rated them on how good a spread they put on. He was weird.
@stephjovi
2 жыл бұрын
Well that's crashing funeral for free meals etc during he wake. But a funeral for unknown there's nothing to get 🤔
@adamleviness1039
2 жыл бұрын
There is a misconception a lot of people in the US have, mostly from movies/TV shows, that you can't report a missing person's case unless they have been missing for at least 24 hours. This was much more prominent in the 90s as that's when the tv trope was at its height and it wasn't yet common knowledge that the first 48-hrs are the most crucial to finding a missing person. That's probably why she waited if I had to guess. It was a VERY prominent misconception.
@brendatidwell3423
5 ай бұрын
It's actually thanks to Brandon's Law that you can report even an adult missing immediately. Brandon Swanson's parents lobbied to put it into law to be able to report people missing as soon as you become worried. It used to be the routine for law enforcement to disregard missing reports of adults as you have the right to leave if you want. I'm not saying it was right but most police had little resources back then, we now have the Internet, it's much harder to go missing on purpose.
@dont-worry-about-it-
24 күн бұрын
I thought the "first 48 hours" thing was for missing children and didn't necessarily apply to adults, but i suppose if the adult is going through mental/emotional troubles or is dealing with dangerous people, the same 48 hours rule could apply
@millbean13
2 жыл бұрын
Simon, here’s a story recommendation. Do one about Andrew Carter Thornton II, often called the “sky smuggler.” It’s a crazy story and very interesting. Here is a short quote from a news article about him. “At the scene, police discovered the body of Andrew (Drew) Carter Thornton II, 40, clad in combat fatigues, a bulletproof vest and infrared night goggles. Thornton was carrying two handguns, a stiletto, the keys to an airplane, a money belt with $5,000 and six krugerrands, survival food, and 34 kilos of pure cocaine.” Lots of other interesting things were going on with this. Definitely a good one.
@nobbynoris
2 жыл бұрын
Total byartch to get run over like that when he was just carrying the takings from his last shift at the local Salvation Army Charity Shop to the bank.
@Timmyhk2
2 жыл бұрын
Do one about the reverse Underground Railroad
@Dopecheetah
2 жыл бұрын
Cocaine bear
@honorafox4709
Жыл бұрын
@@Dopecheetah 🤣 That movie looks absolutely nuts
@JordanHowellMusic
6 ай бұрын
@@Timmyhk2what is that…in basic terms?
@garmrbanalras2579
2 жыл бұрын
There is actually a very interesting book writhen by a Norwegian comedian and punk rocker name "Kristopher Schau" with the title: 'På vegne av venner" (on behalf of friends). Where he spends a year going to public funeral services arranged by th county for people that die, but have no family or anything to arrange a funeral.
@Kaotiqua
2 жыл бұрын
And of course, the classic, Harold and Maude, which is fiction, but still good. :D
@AllTheHappySquirrels
2 жыл бұрын
As a Washington state native, I just love hearing Simon try to pronounce some of our local place names. 😄 I'm sure I can't pronounce most places in the UK, either. YAK-im-ah, the i is pronounced similarly to the i in cabin or into and the emphasis is on the first syllable. There are plenty of military bases and grounds on both sides of the state, but I'd expect John Doe's prints to show up in military records if he was from a nearby base.
@stuartmayberry666
2 жыл бұрын
As an Oregon native I can say that I feel the same.
@Tommie_the_wrath_of_Khan
2 жыл бұрын
Has Simon had pronounce Puyallup yet? I get a kick out of how he pronounces local names. Lol
@AllTheHappySquirrels
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tommie_the_wrath_of_Khan I keep waiting for it. Maybe we should lobby for a story set in Puyallup or Sequim?
@Jezus42
2 жыл бұрын
As an Oregonian who has family from the Yakima Valley I go crazy when Simon does northwest ish stuff
@anxious2kcowboy
Жыл бұрын
@@AllTheHappySquirrels or Steilacoom
@SEAZNDragon
2 жыл бұрын
Regarding strangers at funerals, I've seen veterans groups announce the death of a veteran without surviving so there would be someone there to send them off. I also heard at least one true crime story where detectives on a Jane Doe case (found skull) were the attendees for the burial.
@neva_nyx
2 жыл бұрын
We still call out retired military funerals as most don't have surviving family. Patriot Riders often show for military funerals.
@bboops23
Жыл бұрын
John and Jane Does almost always have their funeral attended by a member of the department that found them and the funeral director. Firstly, if they died under suspicious circumstances then it's a chance to look to see if anyone is watching from a distance. And secondly, it's considered to be proper form to send them off with a mourner. In some cultures it's believed you can't enter the afterlife if you have no mourners so it's considered a respectable thing to do. I know that my grandparents never had funerals and were cremated and the funeral director said that they hold a small service for everyone even if it's just him and his assistant in attendance.
@AccidentallyOnPurpose
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's very common for strangers to turn up at john/jane doe burials. Some are the people on the case, but there are people that turn up because they believe that everyone should have someone mourn for them.
@StrongDreamsWaitHere
2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Maura Murray case. Ran away from home and responsibility, then ran into bad people by bad luck.
@anthonyC214
2 жыл бұрын
Simon, it is common in America for people to attend burials especially for veterans. There are many homeless veterans without family. Also some religious people attend burials for unknown homeless as a sign of respect.
@DeliveryMcGee
2 жыл бұрын
For John Does, usually the cops/medics/firefighters/coroner's department people that handled the case will show up for the funeral, just so the dead person has somebody to mourn them, because people gonna people, most people would feel weird about not giving them a proper funeral.
@johnny.thetshirtguy3545
2 жыл бұрын
Irish funerals too have loads of random people show up just to show respect for the dead. Totally common
@DeliveryMcGee
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnny.thetshirtguy3545 Paying respect, or mooching off the open bar? Probably a bit of both.😃
@hectorsmommy1717
2 жыл бұрын
@@DeliveryMcGee Which is why you never advertise the post funeral meal in the funeral plans that go at the end of an obituary but invite the attendees at the end of the service, especially if you will be having it someplace other than the church hall.
@AnnDroid877
2 жыл бұрын
When my son was deployed in the USMC, I attended the wake of a young Marine whose family I didn’t know in a state I’d just moved to. His parents were very gracious and didn’t think it strange. A strong camaraderie exists among military families.
@curtislindsey1736
2 жыл бұрын
Simon: Host of The Casual Criminalist. Simon also: No one will steal my info from my car and kill me.
@alexdaland
2 жыл бұрын
I dont know of other countries, but in my country of Norway, yes, they do hold a service for unknown people, or people who just dont have anyone to pay and take care of the funeral. The local council takes care of it, pays the priest and the burial/cremation fees, and they hold a service as if the church was full. There was a guy who wrote a book about this a few years ago, and for research he attended many of these services.
@Greasiola
2 жыл бұрын
The army fatigues could’ve been worn as a way to deter people from asking for an ID, especially if there was a base nearby. Back then, you’d be a lot less likely to get ID’d at an airport if people thought you were a soldier
@Jezus42
2 жыл бұрын
There are a couple crazy sites not far from there. Hanford which Simon has discussed before and bordman Umatilla which Simon needs to cover
@Lostnotforgotten1
4 ай бұрын
@@Jezus42There’s also an airbase a little to the north.
@ignitionfrn2223
2 жыл бұрын
1:35 - Chapter 1 - RIP John Doe 4:35 - Chapter 2 - Re ee wind 6:00 - Chapter 3 - The known timeline 17:00 - Chapter 4 - 1 man, 2 mysteries 20:00 - Chapter 5 - The theories
@ladydainwinters8564
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who once tried to end it, let me tell you what went thru my mind. I choose an area and location far from everyone who could identify me, so no one I loved would find the body. I know that seems silly, but to me at that moment in my messed up thoughts, it was extremely important.
@kmlammto
Жыл бұрын
Not because you did not want to be identified, but because you didn’t want to be stopped.
@ladydainwinters8564
Жыл бұрын
@@kmlammto No. I honestly was worried about someone I knew finding me and the trauma it might cause them. I would have rather been a Jane Doe then hurt someone I knew, having to find me. I know that sounds weird. No one was ever going to stop me because no one knew I needed stopped. I wasn't saved by anyone...I was saved by the thought of my youngest without a mother, and that was when I was actually drowning. I saved myself for him. I'm alive because I can't abandon my children, even if I'm the worst person ever... they still need me.
@rayaterry5365
Жыл бұрын
This is heartbreaking. I hope you’re doing better now and you have the help you need.
@ladydainwinters8564
Жыл бұрын
@@rayaterry5365 yes much. Thank you for asking. I have meds and an amazing counselor.
@aravenlunatic9028
Жыл бұрын
Lady: Thank you for sharing your story and I hope you have adequate access to whatever mental health services you need to help you cope. You're brave to share such a personal subject on a public comments section and I appreciate your comment. Stay safe and be well.
@almitrahopkins1873
2 жыл бұрын
Yakima is pronounced YAK-im-a. And you have no idea how much I want to say that Moxee is pronounced Worcestershire.
@DeliveryMcGee
2 жыл бұрын
Having once dated a person from Redmond, WA, I was going to complain about the pronunciation too. (Two guesses as to who her dad worked for. :p )
@Jezus42
2 жыл бұрын
@@DeliveryMcGee I once had a issue with my xbox and got an offshore call center. Long story short I got mad hung up called the Microsoft front office and was all I don't know who I need to talk to but.....secretary "how did you get this number" me I live in Portland I have it there by end of business.
@cynthiasimpson931
2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather lived in the Yakima (YAK-i-ma) Washington area for over 50 years, and Moxee is a small town up the road. I'd heard of the situation and it stuck with me since I'm vaguely familiar with the area from visiting my grandpa.
@bellasmom2597
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is the first time I heard it spoken with a hard i instead of a soft i. Yak eh ma
@TheMunchkinita2509
Жыл бұрын
Whenever I hear "Yakima" it always makes me think of an old iCarly episode that it was mentioned in 😅
@susansho
4 ай бұрын
That's how my cousins out there pronounce it.
@laurenmp7486
2 жыл бұрын
Washington has had a fair number of cases of people not from the area being found dead there, and then taking years to be identified. Though the identification sheds no light on why they went there or how. Oregon has a few such cases too. One famous case is Lyle Stevik, who would be a great story for this channel. He was identified after like 17 years. Then there's the case of Mary Anderson, who hasn't been identified after 26 years.
@chris4439
Жыл бұрын
I think the point on going to strangers' funerals is so that no one goes alone. Whether you believe in an afterlife or not, it think it is important to have someone stand over you when you're laid to rest.
@Future.Historian
2 жыл бұрын
Hey I know I'm on the wrong channel but are you getting more notebooks soon? They are amazing and I want one in the uk! :) love your tangents, never change. In fact add them to the serious channels :)
@christinebenson518
2 жыл бұрын
A decoding the unknown book could be awsome too. Think about it: illuminate symbols, various numbers, crop circle designs.
@Jezus42
2 жыл бұрын
Ya but I want a not my crimes notebook so I can write my crimes down in it.
@L.K.Rydens
2 жыл бұрын
You know, it doesn't have to be a rare case of disassociation, it can just be an average psychotic episode from a sudden onset of a mental disorder triggered by stress. If it was and he was paranoid, everything else makes sense including buying several tickets etc (psychosis doesn't effect your capabilities in that regard) 😊🍀✨it doesn't have to be more complicated than that 😊🍀✨
@leeneufeld4140
2 жыл бұрын
After hearing the list of his activities, suicide or fugue became much more likely to me. I've known a couple of people who were unable to say no to anyone, and their lives really became hell.
@robincowley5823
2 жыл бұрын
Good summation - I'm with Simon on this one; he wanted out, flew to Washington under an assumed name (why he chose Washington may be precisely because he had no prior link to the state, or he liked the idea of it) and somehow ended up on this road, which is perhaps the strangest element of the case along with the absence of the stack of money - was he robbed when he arrived, perhaps by a taxi driver who then pushed out of his cab in the middle of nowhere?
@bjmcmahon722
2 жыл бұрын
That...may be
@the-chillian
2 жыл бұрын
IMO he was attempting to disappear. Sounds to me like he just might have felt overwhelmed and had the sort of breakdown where you're still lucid and rational, but are emotionally drained and can no longer cope with life. So he bought the misleading tickets, actually flew to Yakima, bought himself new clothes and removed his rather distinctive glasses to make himself less recognizable. In this scenario he was walking because he had no car. While you could get on a plane back then without showing ID, you definitely needed one to rent a car and to legally drive one, and since he'd done this on the spur of the moment he had no new identity prepared. The hit-and-run that killed him was just bad luck, although it was bad luck he'd set himself up for walking by himself wearing camo in the dark without his glasses on.
@AlicesonHarvey-um6lk
10 ай бұрын
This would explain why he left so much in his car Inc his house keys as he thought he would not need these again once he had disappeared and just left the wedding ring and watch for his wife at home The taxi driver says that he had a large amount of cash with him so maybe once he discovered that he could not hire a car at the airport without the I'd he excepted a lift from a stranger who took his money and then left him on the road side where he decided to walk And I guess we know how the story ends
@deltatango6793
2 жыл бұрын
If he CHOSE to disappear, wouldn’t a lawyer with connections to help women (who were victims of domestic violence) get away from their situation know how to do that without all of this messy trail of chaotic choices behind him?
@PositiveOnly-dm3rx
3 ай бұрын
He bought a ticket to where his wife had gone. I bet he caught her cheating. Imagine spending your life helping women, just for the one you love to betray you. Seems like that explains everything to me.
@jajssblue
2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for my next meeting to be over to watch this. Why must my life be meetings instead of more Whistle boy long form content?!
@Alexis01
2 жыл бұрын
I feel you bro Damn boss or client calling again
@BenSwagnerd
2 жыл бұрын
Im watching this at work right now xD (though my work is very very informal - i just make sure two early-20s autistic brothers are getting along when their parents are busy)
@PositiveOnly-dm3rx
3 ай бұрын
Sounds like you choose the wrong profession. Janitors can listen to this as they work. Lol
@ComaDave
2 жыл бұрын
"Got a wife and kids in Baltimore, Jack I went out for a ride and I never went back Like a river that don't know where it's flowing I took a wrong turn and I just kept going" - Bruce Springsteen, "Hungry Heart".
@aarontaylor4967
2 жыл бұрын
My Grandma always went to funerals of strangers where there was a small turnout. She did the flowers in the church for years so she would know who was being buried. No idea what her motivation for the funerals was, I wish I'd asked.
@JohnDoe-vn1we
2 жыл бұрын
My friend's grandmother passed away she was a very very very bad person, really a nasty person, but a bunch of people who we didn't know showed up at her funeral. Who came there only because they had nothing better to do with their lives and they'd get a free lunch so I think that's what motivates some older folks to go to strangers funerals just for something to do
@aarontaylor4967
Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-vn1we that's weird. I can understand one or two old ladies, but a whole bunch of people? Maybe she had a life nobody knew about?
@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas
Жыл бұрын
Reason why some random people show up to funeral with small turn out. Is to show that others care. Then you got the people who want the food at the wake.
@Annenigmatic
2 жыл бұрын
Okay, but Simon's pronunciation of Yakima is precious 🥺
@JonMahn
2 ай бұрын
It's like him not recognizing "Swindle" outright. His mini-rant on names for law firms reminded me of the old joke about the law firm: Dewey, Cheatem and Howe. Read it fast, all as one sentence. 😉
@tomh6799
2 жыл бұрын
Haha I love Simon's pronunciations for Washington's towns. It's more like Yak (the animal)-ama. Yakima. All non-native Washingtonians have difficulty saying towns like Puyallup, Snoqualmie, Issaquah, Kamilche, and Quillayute to name a few.
@JanetSnakehole28
2 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see you cover the disappearance of Richey Edwards from Manic Street Preachers. Very strange situation, lots of weird clues & a book recently came out, written with the co-operation of his family & with pages from his journals, that made me totally change my mind from 'totally topped himself' to 'probably started a new life'
@katywatson4940
2 жыл бұрын
Totally my era. Will make a note 👍🏼
@davidhughes4089
2 жыл бұрын
Be very interested to hear that as the current hypothesis is very sad (as is any suicide, they're all tragedies)
@JanetSnakehole28
2 жыл бұрын
@@katywatson4940 yay! Book is called 'Withdrawn Traces' & some interesting bits include a family history of some of his relatives just nopeing out of normal day to day lives via wandering off & starting over again overseas or opting out of society & becoming hermits. The journal entries & interviews with eg, people who knew him in the psych hospital prior to him vanishing are fascinating too. When he'd disappeared, he left a mystery box of random clues that included a photo of a building that's yet to be identified. All very odd!
@artdonovandesign
2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of that story. It sounds strange and interesting.
@RealElongatedMuskrat
2 жыл бұрын
that sounds fascinating, I will check this one out! I can't imagine how heartbreaking and frustrating it would be to have someone just disappear. The possibility of him up and starting a new life is an added bit of chaos to that already difficult scenario.
@walteringle2258
2 жыл бұрын
In the US, John and Jane Does that are buried often have their funerals attended by 'strangers'. If their death involves suspicious circumstances, they are frequently the coroner/medical examiner and the investigating officer. In some communities there is a sort of "on-call" schedule for attendees. I've "crashed" a funeral myself once. It was a beautiful ceremony and the graveyard I was in is a tourist location and historical landmark. Some of the tombstones are actually benches because its just a very beautiful place to take a nice walk.
@dianebrennan8995
2 жыл бұрын
I love listening to Simon working out his life whilst telling these tales!
@mercedesplay_more_kof8488
Жыл бұрын
I can’t tell if Simon is super sheltered or if crime is just non-existent in Simon’s city because we left a scarf in a car for a whopping 6 hours and someone threw a safety cone through the back window. I wouldn’t leave anything in a car I wasn’t okay with having stolen.
@smw7293
2 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of that family in Australia. The parents convinced their 3 adult kids that they were in terrible danger and they all took off without passports or phones and just took cash. The parents were absolutely convinced that they would be followed and needed to throw people off their track. The son took his phone and his parents freaked out when they discovered this saying they could be tracked. They ended up splitting up and all acting erratically except the son. This case just seems like it happened to him and that's why he ended up wandering in the road.
@frankiemillcarek6976
2 жыл бұрын
I think that one was a case of folie à deux.
@ABCABC-fn4fg
Жыл бұрын
IM AUSSIE AND THAT CASE WAS INSANE
@qrufus
2 жыл бұрын
This case reminds me of the suspicious death of Edgar Allan Poe. He disappeared for a few days, but was found in a different set of clothes. As for what possibly could've happened, part of me thinks that he could've been lured to Washington. I do wonder, if another pathologist were to take a look at his autopsy report, would they conclude that ALL of his injuries were the result of the Hit and Run.
@NemFX
Жыл бұрын
Poe, regrettably, died from rabies. He was trying to play with stray cats, and was likely not sober.
@DaveSandine
2 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be hilarious when every Toyota Prius in Prague gets broken into by that crazy fan looking for Simon's keys.
@elizabethmcglothlin5406
2 жыл бұрын
There are counties where, if you die without any relatives, etc. without even being a Doe, they will assign a minister and, in at least one, a poet to make a poem to be read at the funeral. In the case of Does, many people may attend from sympathy for the unknown.
@budzilladakilla8749
2 жыл бұрын
Got an uncovered story that's close to my heart. The missing four from kenai alaska. 8 months of search parties. Giant story at the time. Quietly forgotten since. Whole family, including the family dog slain. Maybe it was murder suicide, maybe it was his drug connections. Rumors of hitman, and police involvement. No ending, no conclusive official report ever given. "He killed them then himself." That's about it.
@eliharper6616
2 жыл бұрын
There is NO traffic! The chances of making that drive in time are great as there are few people, fewer towns, and hardly any police along any route through that part of the US. Most of it is up highway 287 and in the mountains/foothills so you can easily 100+ mph 75% of the drive. The only slowdown would be Denver and thats really only around rush hour
@the-chillian
2 жыл бұрын
27:30 -- Plane tickets at the time did indeed have the passenger's name on them. It's just that you weren't usually required to show your ID to prove you were that person. In fact, if they weren't restricted economy fare tickets, they were essentially as good as cash.
@greghenrikson952
2 жыл бұрын
YAK-i-mah not Ya-KI-mah. The best law firm name ever was "Johnson Cram & Harder."
@nugboy420
2 жыл бұрын
Johnson Cram’n’Harder lmao
@almitrahopkins1873
2 жыл бұрын
Dewey, Cheatam & Howe.
@NoFacetheVoid
2 жыл бұрын
Love double Simon fridays.
@tacitus7797
2 жыл бұрын
Unless he had a 1970s vintage VCR and was still using it - it had a timer. Now they were fairly hard to program (hence codes for the lazy like VCR+) but you could generally program stuff for a week or 2 ahead. Source I bought 2 VCRs in 1984 (I returned one) and they both could record ahead. The only other possibility is his remote might have been missing or not working - because I think to program my VCR I needed the remote which came with it.
@MrJjones543
11 ай бұрын
Simon in regards to people who go to funerals for people they don't know. There's an organization called "nobody dies alone" And it's volunteers and they spend time with people who are in hospice or in the hospital expecting to die and they spend time with this person before they pass. I imagine those people attend that person's funeral.
@arizonatsunami
2 жыл бұрын
I think he had a mental breakdown, exhibited all the weird behavior that was witnessed, then flew to Washington under a different name and wandered onto the highway and got hit by the car. I honestly think that the plane tickets found were for different David Lewis's. It's an incredibly common name.
@seanpeacock4290
2 жыл бұрын
I entered your symptoms into WebMD and it turns out you have something called "network connection error".
@felicitybywater8012
2 жыл бұрын
Your theory matches mine. He had way too many irons in the fire to make a restful life.
@scottydee3169
2 жыл бұрын
Would be really interesting to see Simon's perspective of the Ghosts of Eastern Airlines Flight 401 in 1973. So many witnesses saw the same thing, it's really thought provoking.
@thejudgmentalcat
2 жыл бұрын
Simon, keep your keys on you and always lock your car!!! Doesn't matter if the crime rate is low; it's never zero.
@Joe-sn6ir
2 жыл бұрын
it would be if we would start executing criminals.
@loralea3142
2 жыл бұрын
There's many places where people don't lock their cars or front door, at least when their home. I do understand why that's so rare and unfeasible in many areas but honestly, in isolated small towns or islands stuff like that can work fine without anything significant or horrible happening.
@christinebenson518
2 жыл бұрын
@@loralea3142 A few years ago a man in a blaze orange jacket got into a running pick up in the grocery store parking lot. It was winter in Minnesota. He drove the truck to the grocery store pharmacy drive thru and attempted to rob them. After he failed, he re parked the truck and walked away. We have under 4,500 people in our town.
@loralea3142
2 жыл бұрын
@@christinebenson518 oh lord.. where do i start? America is so very different and currently uniquely fucked and wierd in this regard.. and i don't mean that disrespectfully or to minimize, just a lot of extra tangles from an outside perspective. I guess i should be clear the populations in the towns here is more like ~800, some of the islands have like 100 permanent occupants and seasonal workers and visitors. None are isolated or disconnected nowadays but with my countries 144k population (excluding the capital region) spread out, most places are pretty damn safe and trusting. It's really crazy how different the underlying attitude of people can be depending on community structure.
@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas
Жыл бұрын
@@loralea3142 and people being more trusting makes criminal jobs easier when they do strike. Unlocked house is easier to robbed than a locked one same with a car. That is true no matter where you live. I know people who live in remote areas in the US that leave their doors unlocked, until there been string of robberies in the area, or worst because the criminal can just walk in.
@themightymoose5047
2 жыл бұрын
Fugue states seem to come up a lot - great topic for a video covering some known cases
@curtissouthern7325
2 жыл бұрын
Simon, I listen to your myriad channels on my way to/from work everyday (1.5hrs riding). Please keep up the good work, but speak a little closer to the microphone (it’s hard to hear you over the wind noise in my helmet sometimes) Katy, As my family says “hold what you’ve got” ie. PLEASE KEEP DOING WHAT YOURE DOING. I know “fact boi” needs scripts and I honestly search for what y’all have come up with EVERY morning before the long hours on the road.
@kevinfoster1138
2 жыл бұрын
Simon this episode was killing me every time you mispronounce the name of a city in the state I live in I was correcting you out loud LOL I thought they gave you pronunciation guides LOL.
@thepagnaet6361
2 жыл бұрын
It's Dumbass, right? lol😁
@furthausen
2 жыл бұрын
Was laughing also. Never heard Yakima pronounced like that 🤣
@dereks7061
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 love it
@andreawylie1527
2 жыл бұрын
The number of times I snarled YEAH kimmuh under my breath thru this... My co worker thinks I'm bonkers.
@furthausen
2 жыл бұрын
I work in billing and I always get a kick out of calls I get when they try saying Okanogan and Wenatchee
@dena81
2 жыл бұрын
Truly adore Katy's scripts! Definitely one of my faves of the SWU (Simon Whistler universe) along with Danny, Arnaldo, Kevin, etc!
@whoever6458
2 жыл бұрын
He might have been on his way into a psychotic state when he used his own name, as these things aren't necessarily just instant transformations of a person and could be preceded by stress and paranoia. Even if it was a sudden thing, he may have used the name and information on the ID he found in his own wallet. He may have driven around to places with addresses in any paperwork he found in the car in order to try to get his bearings. It is true that he may have wanted to disappear as part of a midlife crisis. I am in the middle of one of those right now and I will readily admit to having watch bushcraft videos online and then disappearing into the wild to try some of these things out. That's always been somewhat of my personality type but the existential crisis of middle age has contributed to it significantly. I do always text my family when I'm gone, though, but there weren't cell phones like that in the early 90s and, had he gotten the urge to go stealth camping, it's not exactly like there were abundant pay phones in the wilderness even though we can often get a cell phone signal in them at least sometimes.
@III_Stray_III
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love these videos
@artdonovandesign
2 жыл бұрын
Great episode, Simon. And allow me to compliment you on your cool set design, clothes and lighting. Very easy on the eyes. Kudos!
@BlackHearthguard
2 жыл бұрын
Your rego documents definitely have your address on them. And it's a whole bunch cheaper to carry your keys than to re-key a car, especially if you have keys with an electronic component, like any keys for a car built since 2000.
@edenconeby8227
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this channel. I can go to a multitude of others for these stories concluding with “ooh spooky ghost did it” and that’s great for when you want that, but it’s nice to have someone giving an ACTUAL explanation
@DeaDGoD_XIV
2 жыл бұрын
As someone born, raised and still living inWashington, it's fun to listen to you mispronounce our city names
@tracysemonik7040
2 жыл бұрын
He could have been in the middle of a planned disappearance , during which he had a dissociative fugue. Both. Also, with psychotic episodes, you still maintain your level of intelligence. It's logic and reasoning that kind of go usually. And things like memory and linear thought. Dude could have been in the middle of a well planned out disappearance, entered a fugue state, then remembered he was leaving his life behind, but didn't remember what he had to do next. So he has to start a whole new plan while it's already well under way. That's not going to make sense to anyone else.
@felicitybywater8012
2 жыл бұрын
Psychotic episode due to over-stressed lifestyle, aka "breakdown", seems the most likely given the symptoms & the rarity of fugue states. But we'll never know for sure.
@tracysemonik7040
2 жыл бұрын
@@felicitybywater8012 you're right, it doesn't have to be a fugue state, that's just one type of psychotic episode. He could have dissociated, suffered paranoid delusions or any other flavour of psychosis. Fugues are rare, but since that was the specific type of psychotic episode that's been mentioned, yeah, planned disappearance + fugue. But even a manic psychotic episode or something else. I thought of this- psychotic episode triggered by the stress of him deciding to leave and start a new life.
@annieinwonderland
Жыл бұрын
yep I have paranoid tendencies, and it's hard work to stay grounded in reality but this is a side effect of a medication I take for sezures. it's not like you see in the movies it;s more like you make weird decisions and have a sense of grandeur or a self-imposed type of depression.
@robertwalker-smith2739
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a lawyer who routinely reviews contracts, which leads to a complicated pursuit by Mafia soldiers. It could be a drama *or* a comedy.
@seanpeacock4290
2 жыл бұрын
or both
@sallyintucson
2 жыл бұрын
You’d be surprised how many people go to John and Jane Doe funerals. There are even groups that do this in the US.
@1TakoyakiStore
2 жыл бұрын
Ooo! One of a few I had recommended over the last year. One of my favorite mysteries.
@KatKaleen
2 жыл бұрын
No, Simon. Those strangers at the funeral were people that cared. They didn't need a name for the person, they didn't need to see the person's face, they just cared about somebody dying.
@theConquerersMama
2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather's taught me to go to funerals so I would often go to strangers funerals. People deserve to be treated with respect, even in death.
@henriroggeman7267
2 жыл бұрын
Re-Rewind, Artful Dodger. Goes like this: Re-Rewind, when the crowd say, "Bo selecta"
@CartoonHero1986
2 жыл бұрын
The lawyer thing made me think of a few years back when I lived in a kind of dodgy area. There was this really rundown looking office building on a corner and you could see inside it was a nice professional looking office... so this building, in this area made it look so sketchy on its own; but the cherry on top that made the place look like an outright front or scam was the sign on the front of the building was just a piece of plywood someone wrote "LAWYER OFFICE" on in a thick marker... it even kind of did that sloping down thing that happens when you try to write really big without some kind of line. I always wanted to get a marker and write "I don't believe you" on the sign under "Lawyer Office." I think reality what it was was just an lawyers office that doesn't directly serve the public at all from the office and they just needed cheap office space in a commercially zoned building. And the sign was just for mail and package delivery to find the building which otherwise was just a brown brick that used to be part of row housing in the early 1900's now turned into office and shop space.
@staytuned2L337
2 жыл бұрын
Simon days are the best days.
@C.C_Kid
2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Always look forward to getting my daily dose of fact boy and those sweet sweet memes
@andrewmccauley6902
2 жыл бұрын
This was not a random unknown guy but he did not have any known family in the area. The local radio host heard about how this veteran had no one going to his funeral. He let the public know and tons of people went.
@kjsalomonsen9299
2 жыл бұрын
I'm of Scandinavian decent and we always serve food after the service and there's always someone at one table who says, "please, pass the pickles and by the way who died?" LOL
@TimSedai
2 жыл бұрын
Grew up in the late 70s/80s in StL and TWA used to offer $10 ($5 for kids) airplane rides around town. Maybe 35-40 minutes. Zero security. In the late 90s you could still 'park' less than 100 feet from the runways and 'watch' planes takeoff and land. Times they have a changed
@paulnolan4971
2 жыл бұрын
I love Simons' scepticism.
@katecrown644
2 жыл бұрын
In the US there are groups/people that will go to Jane/John Doe funerals as well as funerals of people with no surviving family. Usually with unknown persons, it’s detectives or coroners from the case
@pentalarclikesit822
Жыл бұрын
The enjoying going to funerals reminds me of my favorite joke from the The Young Ones. Only background needed: They're dressed as undertakers. Random Woman: Do you dig graves? Neal: Yeah, they're alright.
@davidjames579
Жыл бұрын
"The 90's remember" is brilliantly placed. And could be the answer for a lot of things in this video. What's also funny is that scene was written in 1989.
@aste4949
2 жыл бұрын
Buying multiple tickets and having big wads of cash could still line up with the confusion and eratic behavior of a fugue state. You have an all-consuming need to escape, to get somewhere else, but could easily not be mentally organized enough to fully plot out _and_ actually travel the route, and so end up with an unused ticket or two. Ditto with lots of cash, not hard to still know you need money. I definitely lean towards fugue state since he was wandering down a pitch-black highway at night and had so much going on in his life.
@ProjectSaffron
2 жыл бұрын
When the crowd say Bo-Selecta! Ah memories 🥲
@MrOwl-mw3fb
2 жыл бұрын
Decode this, Whistler! Thank you for another great vid.
@a2d
2 жыл бұрын
To me, this is a choose your own adventure book. There are so many possibilities that all end up in the same place. Death. Why did he leave home? a) Business gone bad b) Threat from someone he put away c) Shady business opportunity d) Midlife crisis / mental break e) Affair awaits Why Washington? a) Had a contact there b) Business opportunity there c) Idyllic place to die d) Was under orders from a baddie e) Love interest lives there Why the multiple plane tickets? a) Multiple ladies b) Throw people off his scent c) Again, under orders from baddie d) Indecision due to mental break How did he die? a) Rented a car with cash and fake ID, had a mechanical failure, got clipped as he walked down the road resulting in him laying in the road b) Baddie picked him up from airport, kicked his ass and dumped him in the road c) In a confused state, somehow wound up walking on the road, got hit by car d) Suicidal feelings, perhaps after being turned down. Maybe got drunk and passed out on a street. These may not even be anywhere close, but you can almost mad libs your own story. So many possibilities!
@jannetteberends8730
Жыл бұрын
In Belgium and the Netherlands some cities have a poet who write a poem for the deceased and read it at the funeral. It’s a project called The Lonely Funeral (De Eenzame Uitvaart)
@elfymcelferton2187
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it sounded like fugue state right from the beginning.
@TheMunchkinita2509
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Mystery writer Agatha Christie is said to have entered a fugue state and disappeared for awhile. IIRC, when she returned she wouldn't speak about where she'd been.
@davidjames579
Жыл бұрын
When she was found she'd checked into a hotel under a false name.
@mrrizzla4961
2 жыл бұрын
Re-ee-wind, When Simon forgets to say Bo, Selection!
@danicalifornia505
Жыл бұрын
Had there ever been any mysteries involved with like security lockers being opened and then the documents showing that people murdered the owner of the locker?
@TheEvilCommenter
2 жыл бұрын
Good video 👍
@OlyChickenGuy
Жыл бұрын
Huh. I live in Washington, and haven't heard of this story. Interesting! PS- As much as I love your pronunciation of Yakima, it's pronounced yak (like the animal) ih (like the I in whim, inn, or grim) ma (like the familial term for a mother), yak-ih-ma. I know this likely won't be influential to you, Simon, but to any readers of the comments that are curious, I hope I've provided a tidbit of useful information. PPS- Thanks, Katie, for writing up another wonderful episode! Love your work, as usual!
@jevana
2 жыл бұрын
... it took me so long to realize that you were saying Y'keema because you were talking about Yakima (Yak-i-mah), WA
@markdonovan9247
11 ай бұрын
Great Video
@BoDiddly
2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh Simon! In 1993, you were 6 years old. In 1993 I was two years out from Desert Storm and was the last year of my 8 year contract with the US Marine Corps! Why are you so young!?
@Aries_Born
2 жыл бұрын
The song Simon was thinking about was Rewind by Craig David.
@geteating8838
2 жыл бұрын
"when the crowd say bo selecta, rewind" absolute monster of a track by the Artful Dodger feat a then little known Craig David, dancefloor filler with smooth UK garage vibes. Yes I'm old and sad enough to know this. #longlivebritpop
@bonehead007
2 жыл бұрын
What are the soundtracks playing in background in your videos? Where to get them?
@tkskagen
2 жыл бұрын
Great story, sad to hear about his demise...
@rrg991981
2 жыл бұрын
They call those “Birth Control Glasses”
@jaysongraves4358
2 жыл бұрын
I remember "be kind, please rewind". Goooood times. Give me my butter knife, I have to fix this tape.
@bo7341
2 жыл бұрын
My theory on this is similar to Simon's, but with a twist. He either planned on disappearing and starting over but gave up after arriving in Washington or planned to commit suicide in a way that would never be found out. David was obviously a smart guy, and everyone knows life insurance doesn't pay for suicide, so he wanted to hide his cause of death. He meticulously planned a disappearance that was virtually untraceable, could reasonably be blamed on enemies and left a muddled picture (telling his wife he's getting death threats, multiple tickets, odd missing items) then boarded a flight under an assumed name with no ID. He either planned to start over in Yakima and after arriving decided it wasn't worth it and gave up, or had planned all along to commit suicide by automobile, assuming that nobody would connect his body to his identity and having one less safeguard against the appearance of suicide.
@felicitybywater8012
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like the suicide not accident theory too. Though he may also have been in an altered state of consciousness when he made that decision. Then there's the possibility that, due to a psychotic/other state, he was simply not aware that he had wandered onto the road. But none of this explains how the duck he got there.
@bo7341
2 жыл бұрын
@@felicitybywater8012 didn't I say that part? He took a flight under a false name after buying multiple tickets in his name. This was part of an elaborate and meticulously planned disappearing act that was intended to befuddle just like it has. He left a series of red herrings, took a flight to somewhere that he had no connection to, but somewhere mundane enough nobody would notice, and then committed suicide in a Virginia Woolf like way.
@whimai412
2 жыл бұрын
But Jen... The editor... No plugs 😂🤷♀️ poor dear. Unsung hero. Lol
@TurquoiseInk
Жыл бұрын
There are people (not me) that go to strangers funerals, especially J. Doe types, to pray for the deceased and pray for the forgotten person. It's their ministry. I don't see myself doing that, but I respect it.
@elmartell5724
Жыл бұрын
Simon pronouncing "Yakima" gave me life
@tristhekid
2 жыл бұрын
Tangents aside Simon is one of the great narrators of this time in my opinion
@HLburkewriter
2 жыл бұрын
that is a hilarious way to pronounce Yakima ... and it kind of made my night.
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