why is bro so underrated 😭(remember me or else i'll touch you)
@superkamijacob
13 күн бұрын
Understood.
@jamesdobra
13 күн бұрын
THE ONLY ONE TOUCHING HIM IS ME
@xaydenknox1361
12 күн бұрын
Damn I don't remember you all off a sudden... 😏
@ArielAyernor
12 күн бұрын
Ayo
@pathetic.691
12 күн бұрын
holy shit i come back 5 hours later and this shit has 189 likes 2.1k views when it only had 20 likes and like 54 views.
@killerfunni
12 күн бұрын
It's because the animators dont get enough time to animate details so it comes rushed
@dennisbeaman958
11 күн бұрын
That would be fair except some of the bad scenes in the first few episodes are directly in the movie to but are perfect in the movie and movie came out before the show
@sznobu
11 күн бұрын
@@dennisbeaman958pls think before commenting😂
@shahidjamil7087
11 күн бұрын
@@dennisbeaman958There is this thing called google. You can search up a lot of info there. The early arcs of dbs had only 4 months of production time TOTAL. The movies had years.
@ryanwinclair479
11 күн бұрын
They even hired people who never animated for a big studio before to animate this show
@od3rfla
10 күн бұрын
@@dennisbeaman958wow almost as if it was a movie and not a whole show😂
@BrockSeyoum
10 күн бұрын
"5 Years Ago Dragon Ball Super Ended" Hit too hard bro IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS??
@ionisator1
8 күн бұрын
tbh I expected like 6
@StevenJones851
7 күн бұрын
Wasn't it 6??
@ItsScrolicXD
7 күн бұрын
Bruce it’s been 5 years and you still owe me 16 dollars
@kyleh1494
4 күн бұрын
It’s actually been 6
@androidsenpai1462
Күн бұрын
It was 6. Only the dub ended 5 years ago.
@Ghostly_scarf
12 күн бұрын
I think people mistaken animation style for art style
@superkamijacob
12 күн бұрын
Agreed
@Grind2Excellence
11 күн бұрын
The art style is horrendous which what people mean
@dtfar4
11 күн бұрын
That’s what he’s saying
@loliconenjoyer9770
11 күн бұрын
This is both shit art style and animation style
@asdaasda-wd5qw
10 күн бұрын
@@Grind2ExcellenceNo it isn't what are you on
@Swackettonk
11 күн бұрын
They were absolutely COOKING in the T.O.P arc like man I remember every week being like "Holy shit this looks awesome."
@raymond-jf3ke
10 күн бұрын
Frrrr
@joaquinchua3348
9 күн бұрын
I remember Me and my homies used to watch that shit every week while in school bro that was hype asf
@air9710
9 күн бұрын
I remember being like 8 and freaking out 😂
@airfryersarecool1139
9 күн бұрын
i regret not caring about it back then
@StevenJones851
7 күн бұрын
@@joaquinchua3348yeah agreed
@ghostslord-23
12 күн бұрын
the part that annoys me the most is when i show those haters bad frames from z they completely ignore it
@greekzeus9818
12 күн бұрын
Nuh uh, How could their favorite superior show that they watch over and over again instead of enjoying other media have flaws!? (Insert hundreds of shocked emojis)
@Draco-__-deo
11 күн бұрын
It's not like it was released in the 1900s but ok
@ghostslord-23
11 күн бұрын
@@Draco-__-deo thats not a reason they had way more time too as far as i know and in that case just dont compare it to super ??
@Draco-__-deo
11 күн бұрын
@@ghostslord-23 super is ass cry lil bro
@Draco-__-deo
11 күн бұрын
@@ghostslord-23 still not a good excuse for the shit animation but ok lil bro
@walrus508
12 күн бұрын
im ngl I agree with everything EXCEPT FOR TELLING PPL TO HATE ON DAIMA, DAIMA DESERVES NO HATE 😭😭
@Nezukoscat
11 күн бұрын
The show hasn't even came out yet LOL Man, people suck
@AGZhark
11 күн бұрын
Eh
@narrativeless404
11 күн бұрын
That was a joke If you didn't get it
@Dmgx32
10 күн бұрын
The entire concept of daima deserves hate @@Nezukoscat
@fatpurp4041
10 күн бұрын
@@Dmgx32Just let Toriyama cook man😭 It’s his final project so lets hold on until when it comes out
@connordudley625
9 күн бұрын
A couple things that also have a huge impact that weren't brought up: 1. They moved to digital for drawing, each frame in DBZ back then was drawn traditionally then scanned frame by frame, in Super, they used computer. 2. There was no manga reference in DBS, while not essential, it helps keep the art style a bit more consistent. Key animators have their own art style, and without a base, it's prone to change a lot.
@superkamijacob
9 күн бұрын
Good point
@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688
12 күн бұрын
My God, someone putting respect to animators, even if they’re not fully in-depth with the animation process. this must be some sort of miracle 🤩🤩🤩, anyways for real appreciate someone outside of KZitemrs that go more in-depth about super and other animes animation production, hopefully your video brings people one step closer into a decent understanding of a shows animation process as well as shut up the Toei haters that constantly complain about their shows like one piece having bad animation, just because they have a few limited animated episodes so they can give the animators a damn second to breathe
@superkamijacob
12 күн бұрын
Fax! They put their heart and soul into bringing us a show we hold close to our hearts. It's bout time we showed them some respect!
@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688
12 күн бұрын
@@superkamijacob I might have problems with super in terms of writing, but even I think it’s completely unnecessary to have all this hate not just towards super, but towards its animators that were put in such an unfair circumstance
@superkamijacob
12 күн бұрын
💯
@MELONIUS_CEASER
6 күн бұрын
0:40 there was so much pain in his voice...
@mverse300
13 күн бұрын
Why is this so underrated😭
@superkamijacob
13 күн бұрын
new channel lol
@PronominalTerra439
8 күн бұрын
the internet is far too fucking negative
@superkamijacob
8 күн бұрын
Honestly
@Neuwey331
8 күн бұрын
I quote the cleaner from Toy Story 2: *_"You can't rush art."_*
@Rivr_Shen
11 күн бұрын
me when i compare a movie to an episodic series that’s on a very tight schedule (im so tight mnf)
@Farmer_Kashimo
7 күн бұрын
you're tight? pause💀
@Solesteam
12 күн бұрын
6:20 Dbs is too polished! Glossy, Vaseline on everything from hair to skin to *_pants._*
@codpoopy5559
12 күн бұрын
Btw, worse is that. YES! Dbz does have very VERY rough moments in terms of animation or art style or frames (those Comparing frames makes me think zamasu was right but whatever) But Dbz still as an amazing art style. Like- Amazing to the point of being beloved not just by nostalgia in 2024. And you know what?.. it's the same for DBS! DBS as some awesome frame, art style and all. The animators were held backa and still cooked a 5 stars meal (Expect first two arcs but that was incredibly rough for them) so give them a break- they were on Mappa level of work ethics and still cooked.
@sourlesscream1272
11 күн бұрын
most of the bad comes from stuff they had already worked on and didnt need to do so it wasnt as important... the quality skyrocketed after the recap arcs, so i personally think they rushed the recaps to get to the new and juicy content
@codpoopy5559
11 күн бұрын
@@sourlesscream1272 I think that's a goodd judgement and i think the same. Because yes episode 5 makes me wanna blast myself but..i mean not really the fault of the animators. So i agree.
@Hajime790
6 күн бұрын
@@codpoopy5559 Copium, is really the fault of the animators because the same animators for the past become worse
@codpoopy5559
6 күн бұрын
@@Hajime790 Would you be able to animate in a time even mappa couldn't compete with? No because seriously animators don't become worse in a flash. Kinda reductive of someone's talent to be honest.
@messagefamilystyled1101
11 күн бұрын
1 week to make an episode puts things in perspective when you think about the fact that a episode of southpark takes a week to animate and an episode of family guy takes like 10-12 months. Normally a week of animation in America gets you computer generated cardboard cutouts, those Japanese animators had to put blood sweat and tears into that to pull off a dragonball episode
@kaseytrevino
3 күн бұрын
They do have a few months headstart but that's still like 3 weeks per episode if I were the animators I would absolutely put more time animating the newer content than retold movies which is why I can see why it's those early episodes are shit
@ripper_madness
11 күн бұрын
My god...a video that doesn't mindlessly hate on DBS and gives it fair criticisms while also calling out the stupid ones??? MY MAAAN 🤝
@UsernameUsername0000
11 күн бұрын
And that’s why I laugh when people say DBS has the worse >animation
@JustYourAverageGamer109
8 күн бұрын
powerpoint presentation is crazy 💀
@humanexister
2 сағат бұрын
Except Dragon Ball Super has shots like that anyway. A lot of them. In fact there are entire episodes of Goku and Jiren literally doing that.
@UsernameUsername0000
2 сағат бұрын
@@humanexister They have more in betweens. I seriously advise you to go back to Z. Yes, looped animation is used plentifully in all of DB. But DBZ in particular was the only show which did these weird “rebound loops” on every major impact and had weird after images
@humanexister
2 сағат бұрын
@@UsernameUsername0000 Having more in-betweens does not equate to better animation. The end result is often the same or worse. For example, in the finale when Jiren and Goku are "trading punches" and both characters stay completely still while the screen shakes and disembodied arms fly around the frame at impossible incomprehensible angles. It looks terrible in motion. It's funny you mention "impact" because that's another thing DBS does incredibly poorly save for one or two moments. Almost none of the punches or kicks in the show have any weight or impact. It's remarkable.
@yoshidaaimi34
4 күн бұрын
I'm so glad people are talking about this. It has honestly taken people way too long to realize this.
@JTRyuujin
12 күн бұрын
I remember hearing that with episode 5, they had to outsource the animation to others because of the deadline, which is why the art looked very wonky. I felt bad for Naoki Tate. Lot of people went after him after episode 5 like he's the sole reason. He's one of the veterans and this was out of his control. I don't hate the art style of the anime, but there's no denying they were a bit too detailed. A lot like to dunk on Yamamuro, and there's some legit criticism, but I can't say I see him as the bad guy like some do. Maybe he's not in his prime, or maybe just his art style just changed over the years. Happens to a lot of artists. It was a bit annoying how often I'd see someone say "This is better animated than Super" when it comes to animation posted on KZitem. I mean, no duh. Most animators who aren't working for a weekly series have more if not unlimited time. Some of Toei's animators are also working on other shows too. Not only that, but Dragon Ball's way more stylized. The anime industry can be brutal on its animators. I understand it's a passion thing, but they still deserve better.
@superkamijacob
12 күн бұрын
Well said
@stasis168
11 күн бұрын
This video deserves way more attention! Love your editing and humor, and as someone who’s already a fan of DBS, I still ended up learning a few things I didn’t know before about the show! I’m glad the algorithm sent this my way, hopefully it keeps doing that.
@NoName......
11 күн бұрын
Oh wow it's almost like they were rushed out the ass and the staff had almost no time
@Abedeuss
12 күн бұрын
DBS at its lowest, not counting the tragedy of episode 5, was about as bad as DBZ at lowest (Cell/Frieza having different character designs episode by episode....). At its peak, it was better than DBZ in terms of quality. Comparing only series vs series. Not movie to movie. I'd argue DBS Broly movie is way better than DBZ movie animations.
@superkamijacob
12 күн бұрын
Exactly. But we don't dunk on old movies because, their old movies and still have amazing art and animation
@air9710
9 күн бұрын
Ok cell gets a pass tho
@na-ui8ph
9 күн бұрын
the first person to agree with me THIS DEBATE IS SOOOO STUPID and people say this entire series WILL look bad but they didn't even watch the tournament of power IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
@awesomereviews1561
9 күн бұрын
85% of the tournament of Power did look bad.
@catcat5308
8 күн бұрын
@@awesomereviews1561 Shut up tablos
@glubiglubstar3318
13 сағат бұрын
@@awesomereviews1561 what the hell are you talking about?
@humanexister
2 сағат бұрын
@@glubiglubstar3318 The majority of ToP looked like shit. You're remembering the cool shot of Jiren getting punched in the face and forgetting shit like the entire episode with Tien and the stupid Laser guy or Piccolo and the little bug.
@RandomName-xx9ls
13 күн бұрын
This is so underrated bro, just commenting for encouragement and engagement
@superkamijacob
13 күн бұрын
Hey I appreciate it!
@SsxuSonic14
6 күн бұрын
Thank god you made this I hate that people compare the old movies(that have no time limit or schedule) to a tv show with a terrible schedule bro is underrated
@Jay-mx9hp
9 күн бұрын
I swear not one person ever mentions GT. Ever.
@MisterEMIv2
11 күн бұрын
1:20 for those wondering, this song is called "Into the fire (no enemies)" from ULTRAKILL
@paulo7295
8 күн бұрын
no enemies😭 i need my blood, IM RUNNING LOW (V1)
@maestro7123
7 күн бұрын
Machine, turn back now.
@paulo7295
7 күн бұрын
@@maestro7123 as i am the rightchous hand of the father
@dinisfariastavares4055
11 күн бұрын
man i remember a guy that sayed that super is "animated dragon ball evulotion" like bruh💀
@bloodhazat264
5 күн бұрын
They're haters🤡
@TheTupMan
11 күн бұрын
YES. FINALLY. I can’t stand all these people making these stupid comparisons that aren’t even close to accurate to push some dumb agenda that doesn’t need to get pushed because the thing they’re actually trying to fight for isn’t what they are saying they’re fighting for. All of this absolutely needed to be said. And this was just about as concise as it could be too. But…don’t hate on Daima. It looks incredible. But I’m just hype for more official content. And opinions are ok and all that.
@zvorakzekrom
11 күн бұрын
They’re blinded by nostalgia
@Hajime790
6 күн бұрын
@@zvorakzekrom Copium, you're blinded by nostalgia
@zvorakzekrom
6 күн бұрын
@@Hajime790 No way you said “copium.” How exactly am I blinded by nostalgia? I’m defending DBS. The ones you should be talking about are the DBZ fans.
@grimdara4227
4 сағат бұрын
@@zvorakzekrom Z was never perfect but I don't get the fucking soy attitude that Super fans have when any fans critic it. Sure misinformation and all that shit but that's not gonna change my views on Super being mediocre animation and art-style wise. If you're making a sequel to one of the biggest anime franchises and you come out with mixed results, sorry I'm gonna be annoyed by that shit.
@thz-1827
11 күн бұрын
Hate is easier than love for the fans (or like encouraging them animators).
@viscrelia
13 күн бұрын
Bro super haters just have not seen the show, they make it obvious
@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688
12 күн бұрын
I think you’d say that for anyone that trash talks about any Toei shows animation, trust me, i’m a fan of one piece and the amount of times I see someone in experience, trying to trash talk about one piece having “bad” animation is honestly almost as bad as people trash talking supers animation 🙂
@XenMel
12 күн бұрын
@@supersubatomicsonicgenerat4688 hey man, One Piece has really modern animation and a good animation team yet the pacing is horrible 6.25 days worth of filler? really?
@Benji_Jokjo
12 күн бұрын
i’ve seen the show… they made my goat act mad immature… and failed with early animation, they did start to pick up towards the end but the anime sucked ngl- it had a lot of good and bad moments but the mangas just better lol
@ichidoo8293
12 күн бұрын
As someone who has seen super. I hated it.
@ripper_madness
11 күн бұрын
Im saying bruh. They listen to thier favorite youtubers more than the source material 💀
@PlayNudge
8 күн бұрын
10:24 i dont think anyones gonna complain about that, it has fire animation and its toriyama's last project
@superkamijacob
8 күн бұрын
Remains to be seen.... (Jk)
@witcherjohn3440
12 күн бұрын
I had no idea people hated super that much as it pretty late to dragon ball Honestly as a person who didn’t grow up with it Super is just undoubtedly the best same with super broly
@watermelongaming3698
10 күн бұрын
You are going to need a *lot* of Senzu Beans once "fans" catch wind that you like Super (Not Super Broly, pretty sure everyone likes that.)
@witcherjohn3440
10 күн бұрын
@@watermelongaming3698 eh oh well I like what I like everyone else can go do one lol If people hate me for it then they are sad neckbeards who need to touch grass
@GuzinZueiro
7 күн бұрын
Super have a lot of things that are BAD First: super saiyan god only appears on beerus saga and t.o.p saga Second: super saiyan blue is OVERUSED, in the manga, blue is used only when is really necessary (also god is used, unlike anime) Third: toei loves to put a lot of useless things, random caracters and make the main characters look dumb (specially goku) Fourth: no blood, goku and vegeta literally being cut and what? MILK! AND WORSE, MILK FROM THEIR MOUTHS If you want something good from dragon ball SUPER, read the manga, the manga is good
@watermelongaming3698
6 күн бұрын
@@GuzinZueiro Aaaand there it is! Counterpoint: I still enjoyed Dragon Ball Super. Minus skipping a few filler episodes, I had no real problem beyond a little repetitiveness/dragging on. "But it's bad!! Here's why:" Ok, doesn't change the fact I enjoyed it.
@IshBox
8 күн бұрын
Highkey thought this mf would have at least 100k HE'S SO GOOD peak cinema right here!!!!!!
@youessmati3806
13 күн бұрын
Fact: even tho the first arcs of dragon ball super had some terrible artwork ,the animation was really fuild which even some seasonal animes like mha lack
@superkamijacob
13 күн бұрын
Honestly good point. One of the clips I showed in the video between Goku and Freiza were technically good in animation, just not in artstyle.
@codpoopy5559
12 күн бұрын
Even DBZ had some rough moments like Base Goku vs Frieza (Which is not a coincidence at this point) But. DB in general is very fluid and just smooth even at its roughest.
@LegendaryChadzilla
11 күн бұрын
@@codpoopy5559base Goku vs frieza generally had lots of good artwork and animation. Just one episode tbh causes problems
@codpoopy5559
11 күн бұрын
@@LegendaryChadzilla Yeah. I mean. In general DBZ has some clean animation usually. This one was rough though and when i saw it i never could not notice it. I do admit that it's very rare. Which is impressive and i think Dragon ball was really ahead at some of the parts and usually highs of this generation. (Even in fillers which..i mean damn it's impressive)
@AGZhark
11 күн бұрын
?? :skull:
@H4L0GUY117
9 күн бұрын
1:50 bro i was just about to say movie budget vs per episode budget isn't a good comparison
@DragonLord555
9 күн бұрын
I still remember seeing ui sign and legit being like "Holy Sh*t" from the animation.
@Smm20134
12 күн бұрын
I watched the whole video and honestly, it deserves way more likes.
@D3VILS
6 күн бұрын
no way it just hit me when he said 5 years ago... 5 YEARS AGO!? where did the time go
@bloodhazat264
5 күн бұрын
I hope dbs comeback bro😭
@yoshilink9756
12 күн бұрын
The animation rage bait is infuriating, I hate whenever it shows up in my feed. Glad you're actually arguing for the positives of Super.
@Solesteam
12 күн бұрын
6:00 In most cases Kai isn't the alternative, it's the only available version... I wanna see Piccolo learn to drive! but I can't.
@Sb1frosty
12 күн бұрын
I’m a simple guy I just want to enjoy my shows 😭
@Tuhwig
8 күн бұрын
On bros soul
@nerdface1087
8 күн бұрын
🗿
@Sb1frosty
8 күн бұрын
@@Tuhwig 😭
@gwittka
5 күн бұрын
Real
@glubiglubstar3318
13 сағат бұрын
Real
@pacbabysmilk
5 күн бұрын
“I touch grass” talking about Dragon Ball at all counters that
@paranoidguyinhere
8 күн бұрын
The day everyone on this fandom learns the difference between good animation and good DRAWING
@superkamijacob
8 күн бұрын
Nah fr
@fabricioserio6446
16 сағат бұрын
i just hope that when they animate the best super arc, the moro arc, they dont screw it up.
@Theropod7
9 күн бұрын
I admire the comeback in super, but I mostly dislike the artwork in super for its style, not animation. Its not their fault but like nyeh I really dont like how for example beams and blasts look.
@superkamijacob
9 күн бұрын
That's fair. I miss how the blasts used to encompass the entire screen and be so bright, the characters would have that shade of color all over them. Goku versus vegeta is a good example
@Theropod7
9 күн бұрын
@@superkamijacob Yeah Z's ki blasts had so much more oomph to them, as well as texture compared to the single bright colour they are in super.
@Eternal_Soul14
6 күн бұрын
i didnt really notice i just watched the anime and started screaming at the cool parts with the bois
@probrogamer8827
11 күн бұрын
Honestly the art style during the tournament of power arc is the best art style in a DB series ever in my opinion.
@NIEEeE.e79
11 күн бұрын
I have the same opinion on this dbz animation is the best but dbs is a joke they destroyed for me this francise is milked and powerscaling don't have sense the transform are ass only chenge hair and ad aura story now is milked just story was never good only fight was the best and imfluencial in my opinion dragon ball should have ended with buu saga or cell saga after that dragon ball start to be worst and worst don't get me wrong but now it turns out that dragon ball is being alive bescuse of nostalgia I would like this show to end and why? because it suffers more from being continued I liked dragon ball but I think it's right to just end this show so that it doesn't suffer because it makes me feel sad
@shadow_58
10 күн бұрын
@@NIEEeE.e79 First of all, learn to use punctuation please, I don't wanna be the "grammar" police, but not using commas is making me have a meltdown from your writing. On the other hand, DBZ broke the scales first, DBS is just following it up (kaioken was just Goku but red, ssj2 was ssj but with lighting and ssj3 was long hair). As you mentioned, plot and history was NEVER a strong point of DB, it was mainly the characters that drove people to like the show. And if we think about it, DBS did that PERFECTLY, Broly super? Fan favorite, Goku black? Beloved, Zamasu? Kinda memed on due to long speeches but people still like him a lot, Hit? I've seen a lot of fans, even the gammas are widely liked and then Jiren is kinda meh in my opinion but he is still liked overall. So to me, aside from art work in the first episodes, everything else has been great regarding DBS, specially the movies which, in my opinion: They trash on almost every DBZ movie and it's not even close (Maybe with the exception of fusion reborn and Broly Z)
@SalimShahdiOff
10 күн бұрын
Db and Dbz story were great Not just the fights the story too and mainly the story
@probrogamer8827
10 күн бұрын
@@shadow_58 100% agreed. Couldn’t have said it better myself
@crestofhonor2349
10 күн бұрын
I personally think that Shintani's designs for the Broly movie are my favorite
@JustKluto
4 күн бұрын
3:50 WHAT?! MAN THAT SUCKS! WHY THO?! I'D RATHER WAIT A FULL MONTH FOR AN EPISODE!
@Mamafacker
10 күн бұрын
Yall are fucking high, dbs every singular episode is gold and pure art, idk why yall are making such a fenzy about smear frames that happen for only 0.1 seconds
@ZAIRETHEGUY8
5 күн бұрын
ok and you are on cocaine
@GogeB
4 күн бұрын
Bro tbh I didn't even notice the the bad animations I just absolutely was just like *YEAAAAAH!* and *WHAT YEEEEEES!* 😅 Dude I just liked it
@Purpl3yGaming
13 күн бұрын
why the hell does this guy only have 170 veiws and 10 subs
@speedhawk2133
4 күн бұрын
Let's also add the fact that the animators are real people and not machines that just pop out episode after episode.
@drip_sauce7967
12 күн бұрын
Underrated , im reposting as well as on my server
@Gri-n9l
8 күн бұрын
Fun fact: The animator for episode 5 was the same animator for DBS: Broly, it's just that the timeconstrains were too large for an anime episode while movie animators have the time that they need
@candlure630
12 күн бұрын
It's not bad but I dont like how clean and bright its look
@superkamijacob
12 күн бұрын
Fair
@ChainsawSlammer1.3.8
8 күн бұрын
No harmony in colours I'd say. Or no good fusion between them. Dbz and dbs broly have the same fusion.
@mild_cherri
5 күн бұрын
7:42 thank God someone else finds these as annoying as I do 😭🙏🏾
@Toothpi_ck
12 күн бұрын
10:26 lets not hate on a show that hasn't came out yet 😭
@superkamijacob
12 күн бұрын
Alright fair enough, but I'll definitely be covering it when it does
@slushy1614
12 күн бұрын
dont know why ppl are hating on daima it looks amazing
@HullsColby
11 күн бұрын
Fr bro, the amount of people be really hating on something that hasn't released yet makes me cry.
@AGZhark
11 күн бұрын
Eh, the hate is valid if you think about it.
@Toothpi_ck
11 күн бұрын
@@AGZhark how so?
@zhabiboss
4 күн бұрын
Dbs haters will be shocked when they find out that transition frames and smears exist in animation and that all frames of the episode don’t have to look good to make a nice episode
@Alak-Hul_Darkblade
12 күн бұрын
THE GRILL MASTER
@Zanio_XL
9 күн бұрын
2:21 episode 5 isnt even the worst. Look at episode 24. Episode 5 is a mountain while 24 is an anthill by comparison
@Solesteam
12 күн бұрын
Early dbs before it being for streaming services was just the animators being really rusty after a long time of not doing Dragonball stuff... They had to get back into the swing of things since the 90s... That's what I thought... And I thought it still looked pretty good.
@sc-1918
11 күн бұрын
thats not how it work
@mds_main
8 күн бұрын
Honestly, I agree with you, but I still think it is fair to criticize the way the Super anime was handled (and therefore its animation consequence) just so Toei doesn't ever forget and they never pull that s**t ever again. I also think that saying there are movies alternatives isn't a good argument because if I want to watch the show I watch the show not the movies and those arcs are important for the plot of Super so. They should have just given Super the same prep time they are now giving to Daima.
@superkamijacob
7 күн бұрын
I also think that's fair, but we need to ensure we aren't blaming the wrong people. My overall point is that at times the animation was bad, but that wasn't necessarily the animators fault
@Yabuturtle
9 күн бұрын
It was fairly choppy when it started and then got a lot better later on. I think the super bashing is getting really stupid and wish folks would take off nostalgia glasses for once, because that's usually that's the main reason, because they don't offer too many legitimate reasons on why super sucks. Just that it does. IF they give out reasons, it's usually just nit picking. There are a few things that bothered me initially but a lot of Super is still solid like Z was.
@Blade_Sensei
7 күн бұрын
It has its… bad moments (that one episode in the battle of gods saga ect.) But it still has insane animation for the rest of the time
@J3r0m369Edits
12 күн бұрын
The grill master
@NovaNate1
9 күн бұрын
the TOP is so amazingly animated 💀
@lazerbreaker4758
10 күн бұрын
This is what happen when animation is rushed and with not enough time
@Hajime790
6 күн бұрын
Copium
@guiverme9844
9 күн бұрын
The funniest part is that if you were to make the opposite comparison, showing a good animation example from dbs and showing a bad one from dbz, suddently the people who say the animation was better back then will complain that that's unfair, but they'll never stop dunking on super
@_dexx7
13 күн бұрын
The Artstyle isn't that bad The Plasticity and round Looks Ruins it
@Kyuubey0406
12 күн бұрын
I think it looked great in the ToP at least
@user-yi6dd1pi8s
12 күн бұрын
Mfs freeze framed it in bad spots idc
@_dexx7
12 күн бұрын
@@user-yi6dd1pi8s Mf the ssj 3 used to look epic in Z but the Super ruined the ssj 3's looks and I know that the animators got less time but the Top Looked actually kinda good and can't you guys see that the characters look slimmer in super they got rounder
@AGZhark
11 күн бұрын
Oh well
@GOAT-ganyu
10 күн бұрын
@@_dexx7draw one frame in 1 day
@fangzgaming5510
11 күн бұрын
4:27 The fight between Zamasu and Vegito was mediocre, not because of the quality, but because the attacks and sound effects felt so underwhelming and killed all tension. Look at Vegito Vs Majin Buu, then Vegito Vs Zamasu, and you'll get my point.
@Imonvacation1
11 күн бұрын
It was still pretty good
@catcat5308
8 күн бұрын
But that's the same fight that vegetto became a chocolate and beated Buu with that
@Sope05
5 күн бұрын
they were being forced to push these out weekly so obviously its gonna be rushed
@hihowareya2445
4 күн бұрын
So basically, it's trash but there's an excuse for it
@bloodhazat264
4 күн бұрын
So basically you're hater
@hihowareya2445
4 күн бұрын
@@bloodhazat264 explain
@RowdyOnPatrol
7 күн бұрын
The really only issue I had with super was goku being outwardly dumb like they made him so stupid. But that’s literally about it. Anytime I see anyone hate on dbs they ONLY mention episode 5. They never show the goku vs black fight or anything from the tournament. The super animators had to release episodes WEEKLY. when some anime’s do bi weekly. What some people do not know is that animation takes a long time. And this is coming from someone who does want to do animation as a career. 25 frames per second is the standard in the industry. Every db, dbz and dbs episode takes 20 to 25 minutes on average. They would have to produce way over 1,0000,0000 frames of animation FULLY RENDERED COLORED AND DIGITALIZED before the weekly due date. Then come back and tell me “oh this is poorly animated” well yeah you never had to get a FULL ASS EPISODE done in a week. Plus Super came out BEFORE the manga they didn’t have much to go on at the time so that kinda probably made people think it’s bad when it’s not.
@RandomAnimeGamer
11 күн бұрын
Title: states that DBS animation isn't trash Actual video: Admits DBS animation is trash and rushed, whining about how it's not the animators' fault (which nobody ever argued) Grow some brain cells
@QuaversYT
11 күн бұрын
He’s says the animation is rushed but not trash. Also many people have blamed the animators for the bad frames you just have to look for it. People love to dunk on Super because it doesn’t match up to Z despite that being pure bullshit. It more than matches. So don’t just say “Bad video, Grow some brain cells” get a move on.
@zvorakzekrom
11 күн бұрын
@@QuaversYTIronic, last paragraph.
@Santzu_
11 күн бұрын
He said the animation in the first 2 arcs is bad and the rest looks good.
@RandomAnimeGamer
11 күн бұрын
@@QuaversYT Super doesn't match up to Z, they only improved the animation later specifically *because* people complained. The uploader is retrospectively dismissing old criticisms because of new results. Grow some brain cells.
@RandomAnimeGamer
11 күн бұрын
@@Santzu_ You can't take criticism of the first 2 arcs and then go "SEE? THEY IMPROVED. YOUR OLD CRITICISM WAS WRONG!!1111one" Learn what a calendar is
@nsarjeant
9 күн бұрын
9:10 WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MCDONALD'S FOREHEAD!? IT LOOKS LIKE A ZIGZAG IN THAT FRAME!
@Drawzarts
12 күн бұрын
the problem is that the color is too bright it burns my eyes (Also 😁 just to inform you just incase you didn't know.. *you → 🤔* that you will be 𝗧𝗢𝗨𝗖𝗛𝗘𝗗 😈 by approximately 180 oiled up men in under 50 seconds 😱 ⏰ time is ticking! 💕 )
@superkamijacob
12 күн бұрын
NAAAUR!
@natrilit2047
10 күн бұрын
I completely love the animation and the show, and the video u produced (u glazed T.O.P VEGITO BLUE IS THE BEST( I meant goku black arc)
@tay14741
12 күн бұрын
super has amazing animation but bad artstyle 😂
@superkamijacob
12 күн бұрын
FAX
@acegameravery9488
12 күн бұрын
At least it improved in TOP. (Even if it was a small improvement.)
@scented_candle_eating_GOD
4 күн бұрын
ultrakill music is fire for that one part
@thesaiyanarsidi9582
7 күн бұрын
Like dude what do u expect of the 2nd most toxic fanbase to give animators? Flowers and chocolates?? Nah they would just scream and cry at them 24/7 on 1 frame Edit: btw the most toxic fandom is mha change my mind
@superkamijacob
7 күн бұрын
I'm stubborn and logical lol
@thesaiyanarsidi9582
7 күн бұрын
@@superkamijacob lol
@noire8121
4 күн бұрын
Bro you unlocked a forgotten memory with that song at the end
@herpderpinson2118
8 күн бұрын
I might be recalling it a little off but someone put out a video not too long ago that the creator of Astro Boy, or something in that era, instilled the weekly episode thing in their culture. It's very outdated with the current expectation of quality and why many animators are all but slaves in name over there.
@superkamijacob
8 күн бұрын
Interesting, I'll have to look into that
@Ihavenonamestopitplease
11 күн бұрын
God I love hearing someone talk about what I've been saying for years now
@TalkingOnAutoPilot
11 күн бұрын
Still waiting for that Granolah Arc and the rest
@TheStewGuyy
8 күн бұрын
"THesE gUys nEed to be better, how MuCh TImE dId ThEY PuT inTo THiS?!!??1" They were GIVEN 4 months for multiple episodes at once, bro
@Hugo-yz1vb
3 күн бұрын
The Mexican Cartels definitely think that it is good animation
@FirstofallIamvegeta
9 күн бұрын
next he's gonna say dbs is a good show
@discount_doom_slayer117
Күн бұрын
It was never the animation itself that was bad, it was the artwork that was hella spotty
@joaoantonio4864
8 күн бұрын
I understand the hate with the highlights but tbh it never bothered me that much I always looked at Super's art style and it gave me an "Woe this is really an HD era" Of course as you even said the animations didnt help much for the first 2 arcs but i think certain parts in the Black arc and basically the entire T.O.P proves that this art style has the potential to be phenomenal. As crasy as it sounds i even prefer this art style over the Broly movie, i loved the animations itself but the lines... Well i dont hate it i just prefer more sharp ones
@poobla7638
6 күн бұрын
I agree with almost everything(give daima a chance) that you said. Super animation deserves to be praised for its amazing work. Whenever someone says the animation bad for the first 2 arcs, i point out "did you ever stop to think the only reason the animation is bad is because theyre RETELLING THE MOVIES, and the next arcs after is gonna have better animation. Also something you failed to mention is GT and i kinda respect that
@Razyu-z6v
8 күн бұрын
LET THIS MAN COOOOOK
@IchoTheWicker
12 күн бұрын
Most people just HATE the fact they reuse frames for barrage sceens and clash stuff
@crestofhonor2349
10 күн бұрын
That's nothing new in the world of TV animation
@NoblesseOblige-ej8tx
10 күн бұрын
Tbh i would've preferred the dbz animation to continue but if they could've made the whole dbs animation like the one we had on the tournament of power it would've been sooo good...but honesty i didn't put much thought to the animation when i watched dbs i was so hyped..
@TheExiled112
7 күн бұрын
The first 2 arcs can be summed up as "just watch the movie version of the arc" while everything afterwards has average to above average animation.
@BloxxCool
8 күн бұрын
I smell ultrakill into the fire no enemy’s version
@HomnixHD
8 күн бұрын
man if they did that while rushed in 4 months these manga arc not done yet better be ground breaking quality
@georgeforbus1313
11 күн бұрын
Personally, I mainly just take issue with the sentiment that it's the animators' fault. When they're really just victims of Toei. DBS has some incredible animation in the latter half because they were actually given time to do their job. Animation takes a shit ton of time and effort and I think people really underestimate that fact.
@komarunaegi7460
8 күн бұрын
10:25 What’s wrong with Daima? It’s Toriyama’s last ever project, and it’s not even out yet, so we can’t judge it.
@superkamijacob
8 күн бұрын
Joke
@komarunaegi7460
8 күн бұрын
@@superkamijacob ohhhh my b. Good video tho! Literally the first sane Dragon Ball fan I’ve seen in ages, thank God
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