YO! In this video I’m sharing some thoughts on the idea of less is more when it comes to the superhero shows. Lately I’ve been asking myself if introducing so many new superheroes is actually worth it when it happens on the expense of all the older heroes. What do YOU think? I’d love to hear all your thoughts! Thanks for watching! Xx Also, if there's some editing fails in this video it was because I've been in a hurry to finish it, because I have quite a lot to prepare tomorrow for my one week trip to Turkey, and I really wanted to get this off my chest, so here we are. xP
@ronaldsprowal9978
5 жыл бұрын
How Do feel about this season's ? Fall of 2018 ?
@Christian39521
6 жыл бұрын
I remember the actor that plays James Olsen saying when they were moving from CBS to The CW, that CBS was more about the hero vs. the villain. While The CW is a team vs. the villain. And it shows. The first thing they did when they moved Supergirl was made James into a superhero. That's the problem with these shows. Everyone is a superhero. Either they get powers or whatever. Arrow, Laurel took a few boxing classes and then she was a superhero. They made such a big deal of him needing a team for some reason when he really doesn't. The first season was just him and Diggle. Now is Laurel from another earth, Curtis, Rene, Diggle, Felicity, Dinah. Even Felicity in one episode was a superhero. Same with The Flash, Iris in one episode was a superhero. It has Cisco, Killer Frost, Ralph. The hero is not special anymore. I know i'm quoting Syndrome but when everyone's super no one will be.
@Lava91point0
6 жыл бұрын
One of the main problems, is definitely the lack of character development. In Smallville, you got to see Clark grow up and become superman, and the rest of the universe began to grow around him, his family ties, relationships and friendships, they all meant something. Now you're just thrown into it and expected to feel for characters you haven't grown with, so whenever one of them is in peril you feel nothing and it's of no consequence anyway because they always come out okay by the end, even if the reason is nonsensical. They'e all so vapid and superficial, it makes it almost impossible to relate to any one of them unless you're left-wing and a liberal. DC Legends for example, was so obviously modeled entirely on feminism and the civil rights movement, Jaxx for all his effort, is literally the token black and a blatant pawn, they give him the worst lines, while doing next to nothing most of the time, they even had him attack Stein at one point calling him "some old white dude" which i thought was in bad taste considering they're supposed to be partners lol. While admittedly i did sort of enjoy the second half of the first season, some of the special effects were pretty impressive, but all round it still fails, as they all seem to, because they always get way to political than the audience can stomach. It's supposed to be about superheroes, let your characters grow, build your universe, and yes keep up with the political climate, stay current, just stop making *politics* the main focus.
@EClark-nu5nr
6 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with most TV superheroes is that they don't have secret identities anymore and that they all need TEAMS in the first place. So now in these crossovers, we have team Arrow, hookng up with team flash, and team Supergirl, and now Legends. At least Supergirl does leave most of her team home.
@EClark-nu5nr
6 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with TV superhero shows, and I have to point out that this is only something that is a part of TV shows, is that Superheroes need a TEAM. Once you incorporate a team into the mix you've already taken the focus away from the main superhero or character. As you say, Legends is a different animal because that's it's original concept. But what if Legends started to concentrate more and more on say, Sarah Lance, and gave the other members of the team less of a chance to shine?
@kevin10001
6 жыл бұрын
E. Clark u have a point but it was vixen that out shined everyone making the main season plot about her powers and how they are passed on in her family with some filler episodes to fill out the season
@Christian39521
6 жыл бұрын
The actor that plays Jimmy mentioned when they were moving from CBS to The CW the differences between the two. CBS was about the hero vs. the villain and The CW is a team vs. the villain. I'm guessing is a mandate from The CW.
@EClark-nu5nr
6 жыл бұрын
Well, that's an interesting take on it, but CBS had a team concept as well, just less formalized. In fact, I'd argue that Season 1 was all about putting that team into place.
@JohnCenaIsMyDad
6 жыл бұрын
i'm pretty exhausted with the Arrowverse in general. i mean the only show that has a right to have so many characters is LEGENDS... and even then, Legends could do a good job at making other heroes that have faded into the background more relevant (maybe an episode with Roy Harper), which is why I always thought Legends should have a rotating cast. as for Arrow, i stopped watching in Season five when they added like five new heroes or whatever, and i enjoyed the 100th episode because it was Arrow back to it's bare bones.. also, they got rid of Laurel Earth-1 because of too many mask, but proceed to add several more mask the same year they kill her? doesn't make sense. i also don't care very much for these "newbies" as well... i would have preferred if Team Arrow were just Oliver, Roy, Laurel, Felicity, Diggle. Flash... *sigh* I don't know, i have a love-hate thing with Flash lately, sometimes i love the episodes and sometimes i hate them, but i haven't loved every episode of every season since Season 1. there's just way too many people on "Team Flash"... and when they take off one person, they immediately replace him with another (HR dies just for Harry to come back, once Julian is gone for a few episodes, Ralph is there) why does every hero in Central City HAVE to work with The Flash? can't there be heroes that work on their own and occasionally team up with The Flash? i mean by the time we officially get a 'Justice League' it won't feel special because most of these heroes already work with each other anyway... and can you imagine how oversaturated CW's Justice League roster would be...?! the whole concept of "Team Flash" "Team Arrow" is so redundant and a very worn out formula... should be more like The Flash of the comics...
@supertalks4615
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel the same. Legends is kinda excused because it is actually a team show, but Flash, Arrow and Supergirl just feel so crowded. It's just so stupid when Kara suddenly doesn't know how to fight, or conveniently they have to go somewhere so she loses her powers, so all the other people can help her. Same with Barry, he makes so many stupid mistakes.. As for Team Arrow, they're just too many, simple as that. I could do without almost all of them at this point. Nothing wrong with the actors, but their characters are just too shallow for me. I wouldn't care if they had them go away or kill them off. And, I totally agree with what you said, why kill off a character just to replace them? It won't solve the problem. Why even kill the character off at all if you just intend to replace them? :/
@kevin10001
6 жыл бұрын
That's the point the arrowverse isn't made for us comic fans it's made for fans of teen soap operas that's why the characters get reduced to one personality trait like being gay/lesbian for example if it was for comic fans that would be just a part of their personality and not the main focus of their character
@charleskidney4279
5 жыл бұрын
I drop in and out of these shows. Supergirl and legends I dropped completely. Supergirl for being way to political. Legends for just being sh@t. The Flash is probably the best of them, but I might be saying that cause I just drop in and out of it.
@kevin10001
6 жыл бұрын
I agree to an extent cause there are a lot of problems with the arrowverse not just the amount of characters there is the writing recon of villains from other heroes making heroes act out of character for the the heroes cause they really wanted another character but another tv station has it or it's in the movies for example arrow acting exactly like batman cause Gotham already has the character
@EClark-nu5nr
6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have made that argument about GA and Batman, but TBH, the Golden Age Batman and Golden Age Green Arrow were pretty much the same character as well. Right down to the sidekicks, toys and gadgets. Batman had the Batcave and Batmobile and Batplane, GA had the Arrow plane, arrow car and Arrow cave. (They've even made jokes about that on the show.) It's actually kind of funny, but the one thing they've played down on Arrow, GA's trick arrow for every situation, was actually some thing that Batman lifted from GA with his all purpose Utility belt.
@BigK13372
6 жыл бұрын
I see your point on the “Less is More” philosophy, however I have to disagree with you on this. Considering the content CW is adapting, DC Comics has always been known for its really huge universe of heroes and that is a major appeal to a lot of people. Hell, Crisis on Infinite Earth (the biggest crossover of all of the DC Universe) has got me interested in a lot of characters I never heard of in DC comics even though not a lot of them get much attention. I say the problem with these shows are how they focus the characters rather than the quantity. Especially compare to DC cartoons which have a noticiable large cast like Justice League Unlimited, Batman: The Brave and The Bold and Young Justice; those shows have a good grasp on which characters to use for an episode/season and how they would impact the overall narrative. I mean introducing the Legion of Super Heroes would of been better as a season long plot for Supergirl as that team has a huge roster and the focus could of been about Kara spending time in the future due to her feeling alinated in the present after the whole events of season two or something like that. There we could be introduce to this new cast and see adaptions of classic LOS stories (including the classic Great Darkness Saga story). The other problem, besides focus, is just how homogenous these shows can be with how it tells the story of their seasons. Arrow is infamous for being about Oliver being conflicted with doing morally ambiguous shit as the Green Arrow which ends with him fighting the villain of the season who wants to destroy Star City with his army of merchanaries (sans season 5 which was on an island). Flash focus on the title character trying to become the fastest man alive to beat the villain who is also super fast (sans season 4 . . . well at least so far as I haven’t been watching it much and I don’t think The Thinker transfered his mind into a speedster). And Legend of Tomorrow is about a ragtag group of DC characters traveling through time to stop the villain of the season. Sure each of those try to do something different, but all it is is just cosmetic changes rather than actually story differences.
@theknightsofglenncomics9572
6 жыл бұрын
I only watch Supergirl and Black Lightning and feel that the others dropped in quality fast so stopped watching them.
@supertalks4615
6 жыл бұрын
The only show I watch regularly now is Supergirl, and I've seen the pilot of Black Lightning and heard that it's pretty good so far! What do you think of it?
@theknightsofglenncomics9572
6 жыл бұрын
SuperTalks I love Black Lightning and definitely isn't overcrowded (for now).
@kevin10001
6 жыл бұрын
SuperTalks I love black lightning and love they didn't go teen soap with it they went more Lois and Clark with the it which balances the emotional moments with the action moments better then the arrowverse has ever done I only watch supergirl and legends regularly but not invested in them like with Gotham and black lightning cause most of the time especially with supergirl I can see how the plot was stolen from another heroe's comics or animated tv show
@Christian39521
6 жыл бұрын
I watch Supergirl. But i admit i've been having fun with Legends Of Tomorrow.
@thedude9941
6 жыл бұрын
I was a fan of the Arrowverse up to a point, After the 2nd season of Flash and Arrow both shows went way down hill, Supergirl I just finished the first season on Netflix and first few of the second it's a ok show, Black Lightning I haven't seen.
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