Literally was think dat shit once i seen the thumbnail
@havoctwoone
2 жыл бұрын
I was coming here to the comment section to say just that
@Mdxfiend
2 жыл бұрын
What's this from it sounds familiar
@yeahthatstrue3157
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mdxfiend The Godfather
@blacktemplar707
2 жыл бұрын
In exotic gun form
@alaricpaley6865
2 жыл бұрын
The issue with the hipfire TTK is that at full Crainal Spike you're only 3-taping under 7 res - Meaning every titan is gonna take 4 Shots, so your TTK is *still* 1 second. "Congratulations, As a reward for landing your crits, you now need to pull the trigger an extra time for the same TTK." Brilliant.
@legolokicars5820
2 жыл бұрын
and have better aim. yay.
@LeadCodpiece
2 жыл бұрын
they could leave extra damage but only in hipfire mode and set max rpm to 140-150 at 5, or at very least just buff duration
@a118studios7
2 жыл бұрын
"oh so you just got a perfect three tap, and another two extra headshots in matter of seconds? here's your reward, you have 9 bullets and five seconds to miss your shots at 180 rounds per minute"
@ned9542
2 жыл бұрын
And leave less ammo in the mag at the end lol
@BigGuyBurrito
2 жыл бұрын
The hip should just be 180, there is almost no scenario where you will have x5 in Crucible
@arbalest327
2 жыл бұрын
And how they think this is fine I do not know.
@Ph0enix7373
2 жыл бұрын
They should reduce the max stack of spike so that you get the benefit of the perk when u reach 3 instead of 5, 3 is way more feasible inside of pvp
@arbalest327
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ph0enix7373 yes, also hello, where is your cousin duality? My relative Lorentz driver isn't here right now.
@Ph0enix7373
2 жыл бұрын
@@arbalest327 duality is on vacation, when slugs are more metah he and I shall return
@jacktravis2718
2 жыл бұрын
Lol we’ve come full circle
@LimitedSpartan
2 жыл бұрын
I remember when the gun first come out, I praised the weapon design SO much and kept saying "this is what I always imagined scout rifles should feel like". Each nerf just.. killed my heart a bit more and more.
@Subsistence69
2 жыл бұрын
💔💔💔
@thatoneguy86493
Жыл бұрын
#makeDMTgreatagain im making a hashtag share the word to the d2 community
@dongeroni255
Жыл бұрын
Should have stayed nerfed, still was easy af to use
@bilbo9730
2 жыл бұрын
It just feels weird to hipfire it even when inside the optimal range, it just feels like any other gun where you can't hit HS while hipfiring
@teremleonheart3776
2 жыл бұрын
skill issue bub
@codyschlenker6821
2 жыл бұрын
It was never easy on controller.
@tenacity25
2 жыл бұрын
I have no problems hitting hipfire shots outside of the optimal ranges, personally. I'm not even a cracked player.
@christopherharts1995
2 жыл бұрын
I know this sounds weird. But aim the center circle juuuuussst above the head. Works wonders. Also remember it's a 2 crit 1 body 👌
@MrProbeNWatch
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how it feels nowadays but on controller it felt surprisingly good to hit HS when hipfiring, hip firing is not something I associate with fps games but this gun made it feel surprisingly good
@advancegeo2986
2 жыл бұрын
the Glykon mission and the dead mans tale were some of my favorite content to come out of that season i replayed that mission hundreds of times over to get a better and better timed run it was honestly one of the main things that rekindled my love for Destiny 2 and to see them cast aside one of my favorite weapons just off a whim hurts man
@theSixPathsOfTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Everything fades to time. 💨
@NateTheScot
2 жыл бұрын
Same here... i got solo flawless master presage because i loved that mission and was farming decent DMTs... to only then have them do this. At least it means i can chuck most of them out since no matter the roll, they all suck now.
@Subsistence69
2 жыл бұрын
Hurts so bad 😔
@fenrir_Lokison9
2 жыл бұрын
This is a miracle. 5 days since you posted this comment and not a single elisitis A-hole has come with their obnoxious comment if crutch or things like that. Truly...it is a miracle.
@advancegeo2986
2 жыл бұрын
@@fenrir_Lokison9 dude and I made a comment on another aztecross video about glaives with necrotic grip and then he released his video about glaives and necrotic grip too 😂, maybe I should buy a lottery ticket 😂 also kinda correlated cuzthat's funny cuz one of my closest friends said that its a crutch, how is a mandatory use of only the 120 scout rifle mode make It a crutch idk it has a 1s time to kill
@McWms99
2 жыл бұрын
The tex foundry has some of the enjoyable weapons to play with, with the snazzy reload animations and what not but they always get decimated by nerfs, Maybe bungie should make legendary versions of Tex weapons to allow that cowboy fantasy to exist without being broken
@weenorburger2485
2 жыл бұрын
they probably wont
@santi_claws
2 жыл бұрын
They've already got one Legendary Tex weapon, the Wastelander M5. Reminiscent of Chaperone animations with the shotgun flip
@mrfriedchicken5162
2 жыл бұрын
I support this, or just make the exotic ones actually exotic like before....
@ModuliOfRiemannSurfaces
2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t broken before the most recent nerf, it was just too close to competing with 140 HC’s I suppose.
@thedankcloud840
Жыл бұрын
@@weenorburger2485 this aged well lol
@ryanherbal9458
2 жыл бұрын
DMT was hands down my favorite weapon released in a long time. It felt amazing, looked cool, sounded cool, and was actually good. It's heartbreaking to see what's happened now
@jakespacepiratee3740
2 жыл бұрын
Bungie is way too obsessed with balance. They can’t let Exotics be powerful. It’s funny when they even said (Time with Anarchy being good) “was fun but now it’s time” - it’s like they are aware their needs kill fun.
@PEEK-A-BOO101
2 жыл бұрын
Remember Whisper of the Worm or even Anarchy ? Yup. Exactly that. Welcome to the club of the "never to be played again" club, DMT
@crowdflattener9375
2 жыл бұрын
@@jakespacepiratee3740 yup and now everyone's just using pulse rifles and scouts in pvp..... smh
@drakan5468
2 жыл бұрын
rIP DMT
@theSixPathsOfTrains
2 жыл бұрын
Well now it's living up to its name of DEAD man's tale. 🤣
@AgeOldCure
2 жыл бұрын
This gun will always live on in my heart. It's memory will persist no mater how it changes.
@multidinero
2 жыл бұрын
They did a similar thing to Vex Mythoclast in Destiny 1. Made it a vault ornament until it’s remake in D2.
@SpaghettiTop
2 жыл бұрын
It's still golden bro, just a Lil more in line with other scouts
@gervoh
2 жыл бұрын
@@SpaghettiTop But that's not what an exotic should be, cranial spike and hip-fire RPM were the exotic part of it, not being a scout with western aesthetics. 5x Cranial in PvP was so rare it shouldn't even be taken into consideration when balancing, it should be a very well deserved power spike.
@EzioZ
2 жыл бұрын
Space Cowboys 4 Life!!
@Subsistence69
2 жыл бұрын
@@SpaghettiTop no, its not lol they shit all over it
@Sentarius101
2 жыл бұрын
I think the flat out worst part of dmt in pve is hipfire bullet magnetism - so many clips in this video and in my short use of it where you're right on their face and get bodyshots. Even on the big boy glassway boss I found it hard to maintain cranial spike through hipfire crits. If nothing else, to make it viable in pve, bungie needs to increase its hipfire bullet magnetism so your shots actually register when you're on their face.
@NateTheScot
2 жыл бұрын
I mean even in PvE my issue with it is it takes a fuckin YEAR to reload, even with an Outlaw roll i have, it's just so slow to fully reload and you have to keep firing a crit here and there to even keep the stacks up whilst you're reloading, so that finally you have a full mag of cranial spike shots to use. At least that is, unless you missed a crit and the buff fell off whilst reloading, in which case, time to start again!
@cipher2023
2 жыл бұрын
I was just using it in a lost sector and was appaled at how bad it felt but didnt know why. I appreciate these update videos. Defense attorney Aztecross you may have a losing case record but at least your fighting for it
@alexlunsford6562
2 жыл бұрын
Same I was using it in a legendary lost sector and I thought it felt worse but didn’t know it got nerfed again
@mandoceps1026
2 жыл бұрын
This nerf was so confusing to me with the timing and reasons. I rarely see it being used in both PVP and even more rare in PVE nowadays. Its like someone at bungie resented the previous nerfs and they finally got enough votes from their co-workers to finally bury it once and for all so they could grieve appropriately and move on with their lives. 😂
@messageharrycepsonigforall9280
2 жыл бұрын
4 ur psychedelx stuffs 👆👆
@GastonMorales
2 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest scouts to pull. One of the saddest to use right now. As a scout main, the moment the nerfs started to hit, it was the end. I went back to Jade and Polaris. It's sad, the animation design is one of the best, and we don't have any other "Winchester" like scout in the game.
@MaddixCuhming
2 жыл бұрын
I wish we can do a full cowboy build but ALL OF THEM ARE KINETIC. DMT, last word, wastelanders, chaperone, that one skin for monte Carlos. I guess maybe glaive might fit into the cow boy theme but it’s more of a knight or Asian theme thing but it’s basically a big knige
@lastwymsi
2 жыл бұрын
@@MaddixCuhming pull out a good ol' Trust curated roll from collections and be a space cowboy :)
@MaddixCuhming
2 жыл бұрын
@@lastwymsi oh god I forgot about that gun. I miss it I hope it become craftable next season or something
@Furiouspenguin27
2 жыл бұрын
Bring back Boolean Gemini
@souptimelost9611
2 жыл бұрын
@@MaddixCuhming Lightfall man, its returning, or should be at least.
@harleye1235
2 жыл бұрын
I have a special love for this gun. When the rumors were flying about that the new exotic was, I actually called it that it would be a lever action rifle. I was so excited about it and me and my buddies were in the mission day one trying to get it. I hate where it is now. It seems bungie prefers certain weapons to stay at the top and will slaughter anything else that tries.
@messageharrycepsonigforall9280
2 жыл бұрын
4 ur psychedelx stuffs 👆👆
@zhongthekong
2 жыл бұрын
My problem with the nerf is that Bungie tried to justify it in ways that didn’t make any sense. They said that it was causing issues with unintended damage scalars (radiant) but that would obviously happen when you make a 10% damage buff widely accessible. They also said that they wanted to lean more into fast firing hip fire but they literally had that when it shot at 150 rpm from the hip. It just feels like they wanted to change DMT for no real reason and then they made dumb excuses to do so. “The Cranial Spike perk was causing issues with unintended damage scalars against players, and generally felt unpredictable both to use and to fight against. It also wasn't quite landing the ‘hip-firing cowboy rifle’ fantasy as strongly as we wanted to, so we reworked it to lean more into fast-firing hip-fire.”
@LaLloronaVT
2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty clear that the real reason to change dmt was because bungie didn’t like how everyone was using it so they nerfed it to ensure more weapon diversity, I’d rather bungie just say that outright
@cosmicdj9542
2 жыл бұрын
what a load of shit by them. Nothing filled that cowboy fantasy more than DMT in its prime
@alaricpaley6865
2 жыл бұрын
I think the really sad part is that *Skyburners Oath* Now does what DMT used to do better then DMT does now.
@Elfaia
2 жыл бұрын
It's a fucking lie for one simple reason. Touch of malice entered the fray and they don't want it to look bad so they preemptively nerf DMT so touch of malice will actually look like a viable choice.
@Elfaia
2 жыл бұрын
@Mr Pickles let me put it this way, if DMT was still in its pre-nerf state, which one would you use more often? Because I would definitely pick DMT more regardless of pve or pvp.
@WackyEncapsulatedFruitCup
2 жыл бұрын
the boss dps at 3:55 was incredible.
@grey872
2 жыл бұрын
Overload champion
@Luig117
2 жыл бұрын
Like other people said, they might as well give it The First Curse treatment where, at reaching x5 or getting a kill at x5, your magazine refills and you keep all the benefits + the rof increase until you stow or reload. The way it is now just demands Fourth's Time or hell, even Subsistence. Also, the PvE nerf, feels bad man.
@paladinsrage4646
2 жыл бұрын
I love your takes, but it doesn’t feel insanely overpowered anymore. Just forcing range and space, building perma stacks and 2 tapping over teams was too strong. Trials or 6s. (Could be my own biased though as a top player.)
@ADIMIS
2 жыл бұрын
nah you're right. This gun was absolutely cracked, I think this is gonna be a fine place for anyone who can actually land their shots.
@walrideralp6275
2 жыл бұрын
yeah thats definitely a biased top player take in normal PvP, that sort of perma-stacking and 2-tapping entire teams just... *doesnt happen* since regular players dont have the precision or reflexes to pull that off
@weebtrash3376
Жыл бұрын
@@ADIMIS I mean you say that but even good players can barely even prod the 180 version. It’s an exotic that feels as unexotic as possible because it doesn’t really do anything outside of be a really long range 120 hand cannon
@AwashimaSeriLieutenant
2 жыл бұрын
This was my absolute favourite gun for a long time...time to go back to my god roll nightwatch for scouts
@tristan62099
2 жыл бұрын
Give Vision of Confluence or Doom a shot if you want some solid PvP Scouts. I know Vision isnt popular but imo it should be as its my favorite scout for long range maps rn
@AwashimaSeriLieutenant
2 жыл бұрын
@@tristan62099 To be honest I'm not that big on pvp
@tristan62099
2 жыл бұрын
@@AwashimaSeriLieutenant The best part is that these guns are also great in PvE. My Vision of Confluence has Wellspring Firefly so my Abilities are constantly up from just a headshot on a single dreg in a group
@externalboss9404
2 жыл бұрын
@@tristan62099 I am a solo player so no thanks.
@lavadora8219
2 жыл бұрын
@@externalboss9404 ever heard of solo flawless dungeons my guy?
@SteelShad0w_
2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea its damage got messed with in PvE, I hope they fix that
@nathanzavala6470
2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you made a video on this man. It weirds me out how Bungie didn’t think of this while making the change to the gun. The decay of Cranial Spike is just too fast. The exotic catalyst is now just a checked box that’s there just for fun. They need to either A. Increase the rate of fire incrementally just like the damage used to increase incrementally per stack. Or B. Make it to where the stacks of cranial spike don’t decay as quickly so you have a chance to get to cranial spike x 5
@eggstailored
2 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@jaywu4804
2 жыл бұрын
right now the only way to take advantage of spike x5 for more shots is a DMT with outlaw. you can stick more bullets into the gun and delay the decay a little bit but that still requires a kill which makes it useless against majors/champions
@TheReal_birbwizard
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaywu4804 that sounds like what arguments about bad legendaries sound like. If it doesn't have outlaw trash it. I'm not gonna go god roll grinding for an exotic everytime they change the meta or buff/nerf it. I ALREADY have to do that with everything else. Exotics are supposed to be good at what they do. If they aren't then you trash them and wait for bungie to buff it.... except they nerfed it instead so don't bother.
@fall3718
2 жыл бұрын
honestly when the 150 scout buff came into play I thought DMT could use a slight buff because 150 scouts completely outclassed it. I suggested cranial spike should buff body shot damage as well while still building stacks only from crits so when you have a few stacks you can 2 crit 1 body to make it more fair against things like 150 scouts such as Jade and high impact pulses like No Time or Messenger. Body shots shouldn't refresh the timer or build stacks for cranial spike, only increase the damage. Since max resil was also becoming popular 5x cranial couldn't 2 tap which is why I thought it needed a very slight buff to ensure it 2 taps as a slower rpm EXOTIC scout. Or they could just nerf it to shreds like they just did and have another once powerful exotic be left in the vault to rot for god knows how long
@TheFawse
2 жыл бұрын
DMT already kills in 2 crit 1 body, it’s like the only benefit to using it nowadays. Maybe it would be worth it if it killed in 1 crit 2 body, but even then that’s not a huge upside
@systemrestore1
2 жыл бұрын
Was my main for over a year, just over 7.5k pvp kills. It's sad, as a console player, to see this s tier scout changed so much. The last change was unnecessary. On to Forerunner + mechaneer's Tricksleeves now.
@badollies
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m really gonna miss being a gun toting cowboy, rest in piece old friend…you’ll always be my favorite scout. Yeehaw high up there
@azuln.3760
2 жыл бұрын
This is so funny because I did the same thing. The battler forerunner combo really is deadly, especially with trick-sleeves
@systemrestore1
2 жыл бұрын
@@azuln.3760 yeah being able to hit 91 per crit is amazing. Plus I find it procs quite often, I use drang to abuse that lol
@systemrestore1
2 жыл бұрын
@@badollies amen brother I feel you.
@liamvinck8705
2 жыл бұрын
I think this scout could be really strong on pve... with grim harvest hunter, sealed ahamkara grasp, mx strength plus heavy handed. high energy fire, and whisper of rending. - .- (and it would probably be fun when you get the rate of fire increase. and your melee should reload it fully, plus give it a damage boost thanks to rending/ high energy fire.)
@CrimsonXenoProduct
2 жыл бұрын
love how this was usually my go to PvE workhorse weapon, now I'll have to find some other way to get the space cowboy feel
@matiasjohannson3724
2 жыл бұрын
I want to see an ace of spades approach to cranial spike, once you reach cranial spikeX5 (1-4 still have a timer) you get to keep the benefits until you stow it or reload
@martinprovo2389
2 жыл бұрын
That would be cool. Have it auto reload when you hit x5 so that it'll have utility. I think that would be a great thing since they removed the damage buff in favor of neutral game stat boosts.
@voodoolab814
2 жыл бұрын
That is a great idea!
@chillhour6155
2 жыл бұрын
No, Bungie should stay TF away from Ace period
@coinisinorbit
2 жыл бұрын
@@chillhour6155 you can't read
@matiasjohannson3724
Жыл бұрын
@@chillhour6155 this is a change for DMT not ace
@kelbob00
2 жыл бұрын
Massive buffs and nerfs are one of the biggest mistakes that Bungie continues to make over and over again.
@messageharrycepsonigforall9280
2 жыл бұрын
4 ur DMT and other psychedelx stuffs 👆👆
@TofuRabbit
2 жыл бұрын
Cranial spike running out is why Subsistence has always been my favorite DMT perk since day one. Kills refreshing your mag allows you to keep the x5 up way more consistently.
@maolcogi
2 жыл бұрын
Literally my favorite gun ever. I actually have more kills with DMT in Crucible than any other gun ... and then August 23 comes around this year ... that's my birthday ... thank you bungie for killing my favorite gun on my birthday.
@johnthomas4868
2 жыл бұрын
The worst part is that they'll continue to sell this exotic at Xur until the end of time, reminding us every week of how they buried DMT.
@justjohnp4873
2 жыл бұрын
i dont even come here for the video, i come here for the outtro, honestly its a 10+ minute intro with the main content being 30seconds. love it!!!!
@protodevilin
2 жыл бұрын
Bungie must be conducting an experiment where they try to make an exotic feel as un-exotic as possible.
@Krantzstone420
2 жыл бұрын
Bungie just use overtuned OP Exotics to sell DLC so everyone buys the DLC (pay-to-win), and then nerfs it once everyone's played with it for a while and gotten used to how OP it is (bait-and-switch)... only to do it again. This is also why I no longer buy DLCs and have become a free-to-play player (I unlocked DMT during the week they made Beyond Light free, just so I could pull it from my Vault even after the free week went away).
@gunkid6368
2 жыл бұрын
@@Krantzstone420 good for you man i just buy the dlc and play the game and have fun. you are a much better person than me
@ConvergingWinter
2 жыл бұрын
@@Krantzstone420 Cope
@cristiancolzani5320
Жыл бұрын
Hey I am a Destiny 1 player that returned in game (Destiny 2) like 2 weeks ago (I played only the first season). I don't know how strong it was and still don't know which are the best of the best guns in actual META but I'm using the DMT and I feel like it's a BEAST. Am I the only one? Did they re-buff it recently? Edit: talking about mid-long/long range only
@kineticstar
2 жыл бұрын
Bungie never letting us have real fun. Pour one out for the DMT.
@uhMint
2 жыл бұрын
I put about ~1200 kills on my vorpal DMT during the last IB week alone. The amount of times I was able to use the x5 Cranial Spike 180 rpm mode on another player was ONCE for a kill and ONCE for an assist. In ~35 games of Trials this weekend, ONE 180 rpm KILL. You were correct in saying the gun was perfectly balanced during its last patch. It had its good sides and bad sides. This balance patch has just made it lose its identity as a fun hip fire weapon. Most situations in which cranial x5 is reached are either: 1. ADS kills down a lane where multiple people are coming through, 2. having a warlock in a rift at a distance giving you free stacks, or 3. killing 1-3 people near you in quick succession which either leaves you out of range for the 180 hipfire to be effective, or have no other players to even shoot at since the opposing players that are near you are dead already. Old cranial spike gave you increased damage before hitting x5, allowing value to be drawn from the perk during any gunfight. Now it's basically Enhanced Rapid Hit.
@Nine-Ball
2 жыл бұрын
I own a real Lever Action so when they put one in the game I was happy beyond words. Its still my most used gun on my Hunter but I agree that it is not what it used to be. I miss my 150 rpm man
@dawsonweber99
2 жыл бұрын
Why in the FUCK does bungie do this? They absolutely destroy exotics that finally hit a good and balanced place.
@TheDragonman55
2 жыл бұрын
I have one with fourth times the charm, that helps a bit with the ammo situation. I can't help but think this was to avoid cranial spike + radiant becoming oppressive in PvP. But I don't remember hearing people complain about that.
@Emrirwastaken
2 жыл бұрын
exactly, nobody ever complained about dmt since witch queen came out, this nerf was unprecedented
@ObiTheHomie
2 жыл бұрын
@@Emrirwastaken didn't it require the same amount of shots for a kill even with radiant anyway? I don't know why they decided to nerf it all of a sudden
@adamwareing290
2 жыл бұрын
Time to join the list of exotic weapons that used to feel great in PvE. Thank you DMT for all the memories R.I.P.
@NeoStorm247
2 жыл бұрын
Dead Man's Tale is among my favourite weapons in the game, and although I never used it for PvP (I go to The Last Word there) I racked up just over 36,000 combined PvE kills on it across a few perk rolls, which puts it as one of my highest killcount weapons in the franchise, so I'm super sad to see it get hit so hard time and again
@messageharrycepsonigforall9280
2 жыл бұрын
4 ur psychedelx stuffs 👆👆
@gatorkid3653
2 жыл бұрын
They really just busted DMT’s knee caps. How you gonna make such a SOLID lever action rifle that the cowboy community have been asking for. ONLY to make it feel awful. They did this gun so damn dirty.
@PortableAbyss
2 жыл бұрын
My guess is the nerf was planned and work on it started before the 150 buff was in our hands and Jade Rabbit proved to be stupid good. Hopefully it (DMT) gets addressed again in either the mid season balance or next season.
@TheReal_birbwizard
2 жыл бұрын
The issue is it already had a disadvantages. Reload speed and hipfiring (which is so bad they have to buff it for it to work) , if you don't kill your opponent with the weapon your dead your not gonna have enough time to reload or your gonna have to rapidly disengage. At this point had you used any other weapon you could have reloaded and tried again much sooner before backing up.
@alejandromourra
2 жыл бұрын
my heart is broken this was one of my favorite weapons in all D2 :(
@mrfriedchicken5162
2 жыл бұрын
This is the one "meta" exotic I never got upset about, especially after all of the nerfs. It's such a fun simple and satisfying exotic that feels exotic, and it was outplayable when fighting against it. I dont understand why it needed to be destroyed. This is the one exotic just about everybody agreed bungie nailed, yet now they are undoing all the greatness they did with this thing
@eternal1780
2 жыл бұрын
I brought this gun in for the day 1 vow experience, and ended up using it to get the clear with my clan for ammo economy. I was really excited when I saw how they changed it in pve, but it's a shame to see how much they lowered cranial spike.
@Allimusion
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: DMT is like other Tex Mechanica weapons is modeled off of old Westerns. This is from a sitcom known as The Rifleman and the main character uses a Winchester Model 1892.
@Angelzvx
2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly why I used it. Used to watch reruns of it with my father. Hoping we get a Mare's Leg one of these days.
@madbro8848
2 жыл бұрын
I say that they give it 180 from the hip, permanently but reduce the damage, give back the damage stacks with cranial in pvp, and give it hip fire grip with the catalyst, making the base gun able to be hip fired but not as effectively as with the catalyst.
@jazay591
2 жыл бұрын
Why 180rpm 3 taps?? That would be even worse than the DMT meta before when it was 150rpm
@weebtrash3376
2 жыл бұрын
@Jazay it only 3 taps at 6 or 7 resil or less. Any higher and its back to a 1 second ttk. Even the 3 taps require all headshots and with the inconsistency of hipfire, yeah good luck with that
@ehsper392
2 жыл бұрын
It'd be fine if it went back to the pre-witch queen version but without damage ramping up in crucible tbh
@TheJokerman321
Жыл бұрын
Guaranteed someone at bungie was playing and got shit on by dmt came back in the next day and say hey guys gun needs a nerf
@Ritorikal
2 жыл бұрын
From Dead Man's Tale to Dead Man's Shell RIP
@KurtisB51
2 жыл бұрын
I fell off Destiny 2 a few years back. Its been a while sure but, Dead Man's Tale was my favorite weapon for PVE. I loved exotic primaries cause the bulk of your time was spent with them in PVE. It's like hearing about an old friend getting into horrific accident. Such a shame. It will go right next to my other favorite weapons. My Midnight Coup, my perfectly rolled Kindled Orchid, all my pulse rifles with Kill clip and outlaw, and now Dead Man's Tale. RIP buddy.
@KJA70
2 жыл бұрын
i don't even run into DMT that much in PVP so kinda confused on the uproar when i don't ever see anyone using it lmao, it was good but wasn't the meta
@FAUXCUSpd
2 жыл бұрын
cause shitters complain about everything that kills them
@z3ntropy
2 жыл бұрын
Keep it 120rpm ads, make hip fire 180rpm, no damage change, spike stacks 1-4 boost strictly hip fire/in-air-accuracy and stability At 5x stack, crits are returned to mag- crit damage is also boosted, only at 5 Boom, exotic, rewarding, pve and pvp worth the slot.
@neminem233
2 жыл бұрын
What if each individual cranial spike stack offers an increase in Rate of Fire You could go 140, 150, 160, 170, and 180 for 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 stacks And also make no damage debuff at max stacks
@Sierra2S9
2 жыл бұрын
Last Word: Great at first, gets nerfed into oblivion... DMT: Great at first, gets nerfed into oblivion... I'm beginning to sense a pattern...
@bennygerow
2 жыл бұрын
You could even say it's ............ Dead
@SirLinko
2 жыл бұрын
Mans
@epicgamerzfail4575
2 жыл бұрын
Tale of a Dead Man
@fuckinantipope5511
2 жыл бұрын
Was the gun even a problem? I mean, you saw it in crucible quite often, but it didn't seem that OP to me when playing crucible. Mighty in the right hands, but not broken. At least not before the last nerf. On release it was too strong
@Sta_cotto
2 жыл бұрын
They need to tweak it so the cranial spike countdown is paused while reloading. And make it like Paracausal Rounds where you can stack it on a non-precision kill (i.e. shanks)
@GageMason
2 жыл бұрын
I think making it work like NTTE would be neat. Build stacks on crit, up to 5. They last forever and provide no benefit until you hit 5 and then once you hit 5 you get a timer and for the duration of the timer you get boosted RoF in both ads and hipfire.
@messageharrycepsonigforall9280
2 жыл бұрын
4 ur psychedelx stuffs 👆👆
@taterazor9629
2 жыл бұрын
I definitely think this was a weird change, now instead of not caring about if I have cranial spike stacks I’m actively checking to make sure that they go away before re engaging and this creates slow lethargic gameplay where you are actively fighting against the guns perks, personal I think with cranial spike stacks it should cause “buffs” to hipfire only. they should have increased its fire rate back to 150 but it has the damage and aim assist fall off of a 140 hand cannon, just a suggestion
@messageharrycepsonigforall9280
2 жыл бұрын
4 ur psychedelx stuffs 👆👆
@walrideralp6275
2 жыл бұрын
i read somewhere that, when bungie makes nerfs to exotics, they basically identify the trait that makes the exotic unique (in DMT's case, high-speed hip fire), and strip away *literally every other trait of that exotic except the unique one* the result is, we go from fun and exciting weapons that can work in a wide variety of circumstances, to awkward little things that don't really work anywhere
@venom0237
2 жыл бұрын
My idea: 4th xs needs to intrinsic and cranial spike stacks should remain until the gun is stowed or reloaded. For pve this HAS to be compared to the most lethal options for it to warrant an exotic slot, which in my opinion are outbreak, malfeasance, no time to explain, and even jade rabbit-what all these exotics do is allow you to tear through ads as S-tier primaries, and don't leave you ass'd out on the curb for damage against majors and bosses. Hell, Outbreak and Malfoofoo are top tier in the primary damage category anyway, there's NO reason I would use DMT over these, and if you argue it's a scout, I'd still rather use Jade or Polaris for the ability to just lay on the trigger. The exotic fantasy was lost, but more importantly, it's usefulness was thrown to the wayside too. And as a lover of westerns and all things tex mechanica, I miss it.
@crawdad
2 жыл бұрын
If both are a 3 shot kill minimum, why the hell would I pick the slower ROF gun? Jade Rabbit ROF = 150 DMT ROF = 120-130 I also thought the February 2022 Update left it int he most balanced state it needed to be in.
@awesomeface7777
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I love this gun more than before, playing on a controller you really do feel that bullet magnetism every cranial spike stack. It’s like built in tunnel vision
@Existential_Robot
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you don't get absolutely out-gunned. I miss when the gun could do consistently well at 5500 in competitive. It made me big sad.
@joshuaroman6479
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it's so painful to see. DMT is my favorite crucible weapon and to this day the gun I have the most guardian kills on. Tragic. I've been using my Adept Hung Jury instead for long-range fights and it feels unbelievable after the buffs last season.
@RichardGrayson14
2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite guns I used to use alot now destroyed for who knows how long smh. Wasn't even meta or op at all. Like cross said, it was more balanced with the nerf of when witch queen came launched but Bungie always has to go overkill
@PennytheWiseVids
2 жыл бұрын
I think a nice middle ground would be to have cranial spike work similar to hawkmoon where you only get the damage bonus at x5 and only for the next shot or so in the mag. Could then go and revert some of the RoF changes while keeping current damage profile and it might feel good without being too dominant.
@cykeok3525
2 жыл бұрын
This makes sense and fits the name: the "Cranial Spike" is the sixth headshot.
@yuaisnekarchive
2 жыл бұрын
I could not disagree more. Just because this thing isn't META in PvP doesn't make it "Beyond Saving". I use this daily, it's my favorite weapon in the series (and I've been playing since D1 beta). If you're running out of ammo and not keeping Cranial x5 that's on you. You can easily keep times 5 up between reloads, just like before. You just shoot to refresh then reload a few, and refresh again. If you're not doing that you're never going to keep Cranial x5 and you wouldn't have before either, you were never supposed to fully reload when trying to hold on to x5. I don't know what to tell you but if you're not landing hip fire crits in PvE that's on you. The magnetism for most crit spots is still heafty. I know controller has issues that I'd wish they'd fix, but if you're missing on MnK that's entirely on you. Try aiming slightly above the crit spot, that reduces the amount of possible locations the bullet can magnetize to. DMT still shreds majors. This change also made fourth time insane on this gun with how fast you can proc it now. If you're really having trouble with this gun, you can ADS to get to times five, then switch to hip for the increased ROF, ADS once to reset the buff and reload inbetween. Ideally you always want to be hip firing but if you can't that's the next best thing. Yeah the damage nerf sucks ad I wish they hadn't done it, but you're way off base with this one cross. DMT is still great.
@B0110CK5
Жыл бұрын
This gun *should* be allowed to thrive in pvp. Stop taking away our cowboy fantasy, I don't want to use a HC and Sniper all the time.
@Spring_32
2 жыл бұрын
> Nerf DMT in PVE > Do nothing for Divinity I don't understand Bungie anymore.
@zachgeiger49
Жыл бұрын
This week, Xur even has a roll with Fourth Time's the Charm...and I skipped it to get Hawkmoon instead. RIP DMT
@EloquentTroll
2 жыл бұрын
I've switched back to MIDA Multitool for pvp scout needs (pairing with Calus Minitool to share the speed buff), it's payed off for me.
@angrypantsproductions
2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. The history of nerfs and buffs to a weapon is very interesting. If you do this again, can you do the story of the mountain top? I know it’s a sunset weapon but it has had a huge fall from grace, and it’s impossible to use in PVP FreePlay, anymore
@messageharrycepsonigforall9280
2 жыл бұрын
4 ur psychedelx stuffs 👆👆
@ThePackman627
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they need to buff the hip fire a lot. Like ever since they nerfed it down to 130, it never felt the same on controller
@nathantayadon5490
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who uses all three classes and has a DMT, I have noticed with a 100 res defensively specked Titan I was dying regularly in one to two shots from DMT in PVP. If it was truly a balanced weapon in PVP, how is it taking out someone in one to two hits who can tank direct hits from pinnacle level bosses?
@Rhodare
2 жыл бұрын
What I’m hearing from this is that a 180 legendary scout with focused fury and hip-fire grip would encapsulate what they’re going for with dmt but just better
@keithfilibeck2390
2 жыл бұрын
actually, yes, it would be better in every way.
@ZomgLolPants
2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace dmt, my favorite memory of this gun is soloing atheon back when there was the bugged teleport with a fourth times the charm roll lol
@alexanderchon9058
Жыл бұрын
This personally makes DMT a very good PvE gun because of how the meta is nothing but Taipan-44 meaning free exotic slot for me to rock DMT.
@matthewquirin3081
2 жыл бұрын
Only reason i can think of for this is bungie liking to prenerf stuff for changes next season which makes me think there might be major scout rifle buffs next season
@chickennuggcorgi
2 жыл бұрын
I still use it and still do good with it but the ceiling jumped 400 ft in the air and did a kickflip. It's just not forgiving at all anymore, but it's still my go-to for longer range maps simply for the feel and flexibility of having a scout that can duel in mid range. But man, rip the dream of being a space cowgirl.
@linja3946
2 жыл бұрын
They should have atleast added focused fury perks that could benefit top or bottom half mag when hitting crit shots since aiming slows down rof then hipfire is at 180.
@finalbout6621
2 жыл бұрын
In a game where u have all types of builds, mods, fragments and exotics that do crazy things, yet u can bring all that into pvp, it’s definitely hard to balance it all out. I can’t help but feel that the reason for all these nerfs is the fact that’s there’s a pvp mode in the game. I honestly feel that crucible should have predetermined load outs and shit like mods, aspects, fragments and exotics should stay out of it, cause with all those things it makes crucible way to unbalanced and unpredictable. Just my 2 cents worth 🤔
@ChumblesMumbles
2 жыл бұрын
I don't get the damage buff being removed. Damage buffs are not unusual - they're typically the perks that people look for in PvP and PvE. And that's on normal guns. Exotics have unique damage buffs, some of which require kills (Thorn, Ace), others require hits (Hawkmoon) or sustained fire or magazine levels (Huckleberry, Malice, Suros, Sweet Business, Matchbook), so Cranial Spike wasn't that abnormal - you had to hit precision shots to get the buff, and it didn't last that long.
@thestratilosopher42
2 жыл бұрын
I just got it this week for the first time... Fits the pattern through my Destiny history. I just got my first Loreley Helmet last week...
@VelveteenVermilion
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering why the fuck it felt like liquid garbage in my hands.
@ksgfordays8863
2 жыл бұрын
DMT had the PvE damage changed when the same update that reworked the catty went live. I got it during Season of the Haunted, and loved it. Now? I can't even see myself using it anymore, because chaining crits in PvE is so damn difficult
@aurumarma5711
2 жыл бұрын
DMT was legitimately the reason I came back to Destiny 2. I saw a thumbnail of it and clicked it without even knowing it was a Destiny vid. Re-download, and bought all the dlcs needed. Since then it's been my favorite gun in the game. I love the look, the sound, the reload. Unfortunately Dead Man's Tail is being buried.
@Plag-Dmon98
2 жыл бұрын
Aztec: we don't need broken things like self rez back and we should nerf divinity. Also Aztec when they nerf something too potent: they killed this weapon omg why
@aggressivenapkin2330
2 жыл бұрын
As a blueberry... I fucking HATED this weapon when it was metah. It made PvP unbearable for me. People just pop pop pop im dead before I could do shit. And back then farming this weapon was HORRIBLE. I hated that damn mission.. IM GLAD ITS DEAD >:D
@thomasjohnson4905
2 жыл бұрын
Funny you say about putting it in the vault and forgetting it cause that is literally what I did this week. Decided once i had touch of malice, that would be my replacement. Dmt and devils ruin are my favourite guns but it just got eviscerated with this patch
@hawkfandan
2 жыл бұрын
Could it be to promote the newer scouts and make them more valuable by decreasing the value that dmt gives? Only reason I can think of.
@skyeline9228
2 жыл бұрын
As a Lion Rampant DMT PvP main, with nearly 10,000 crucible kills with the weapon, I still love it. Is it way less useful than it used to be? Yes. Is it outclassed by Jade Rabbit and even some legendary scouts in many situations? Yes. But gosh darn it, it still feels great to use. Hopefully bungie does something to bring it back, but even if they don't it'll still be my favorite
@MSSBy
2 жыл бұрын
The rpm boost on hipfire is so inconsistent to take advantage of cuz its not even full auto. It essentially tells you to adjust ur trigger rate when u proc it. Soo much woork...
@superanderson
2 жыл бұрын
The hilarious part of this is the damage reduction to high rate of fire means once you get spike active it can actually take MORE hits to kill a high resilience guardian, which is nearly everyone but the sweatiest rn. You go from 3 shot 1 sec ttk, at least dishing out 120 handcannon damage, to a 4 shot, get a load of this, STILL 1 SECOND TTK. That is a literal downgrade, you have now given up your ability to peek shoot as well, and requires 33% more accuracy than if the perk wasn't active. Bungie, what in the actual fu...
@rainbakku4671
2 жыл бұрын
Mildly Hot take, but I think this could be the best way to keep this gun interesting while keeping the nerfs : 1) Revert all Hipfire Aim assist and Reticle stickiness nerfs 2) Increase Cranial spike duration to last a full reload from base x5 Cranial spike and an extra 2 seconds (basically 6 seconds from the 3 we have now) I can see why the nerfs to the pvp damage happened and honestly speaking 180 rpm with .67 ttk is pretty good, it needs tho a revert of the other nerfs since they nerfed lethality I think a buff to ease of use is in order. On another note I think the PvE damage nerf may be a glitch
@SolidGoldGuy
2 жыл бұрын
Cranial spike should stay until you stow the gun, revert the damage in pve and give it a champion modifier (barrier preferred). Boom. Gun is fixed.
@BeardedSkeptic
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have to agree. I was a DMT main for a year after getting my vorpal roll. Since the last round the only time I've taken it out was when I forgot it had been nerfed, popped it on for a scout bounty, then got mad all over again & threw it right back in the vault.
@perseusbolt3591
Жыл бұрын
The cranial spikes were my favorite thing about this weapon. It was honestly my favorite exotic. I dont play pvp that much, and as a mostly solo PvE player, i really just enjoyed challenging myself to see how long I could get a crit chain. Without it, idk man. I probably won’t be using it as much anymore.
@skorkyy
2 жыл бұрын
I think the damage nerf checks out in PvE as 180rpm is 1.20x of 150, and with the 1.16x dmg buff, you get 1.392x DPS, roughly the same DPS as you would with base rpm (150) and a 40% dmg increase (1.40x). Although all this really means is that you have to fire more bullets to get the same damage, which can make it harder to use, and reduces DPS over an extended duration. But it also means that killing ads that would get one-shot anyway is faster.
@mininearby
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly if you want the cowboy fantasy rework dmt it's should be good hipfire 30m and in so kill the range stat but boost the zoom factor. So ads is almost untouched but hip fire is in check. Second Give dtm it's dmg back no questions ask either as a straight up dmg buff to 90-93 dmg or the old ramp up. Third craftable with new perks. Ik it would get hate but give me a dmt with killing tally, boxed breathing, Desperado, vorpal, and firefly I'm sorry but that sounds like wild west to me
@Wrldwide_Gaming
2 жыл бұрын
I feel cranial spike should if anything, reload the weapon at 5 stacks and reload every kill while at 5 stacks and boost the timer
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