Shout out to Oliver; this man scrapped his entire video to make one with completely up-to-date info. No small feat, we appreciate you, man!
@peace4myheart
Жыл бұрын
He needs to be compensated by the game company bc he's basically their beta tester.
@johndodo2062
Жыл бұрын
He has nothing but time with ask that soy he's full of
@babyboy1971
Жыл бұрын
Seriously. This is dedication and obsession. Brilliant. Thank you, Oliver!
@daniel_Keelh
Жыл бұрын
If the broken version had been the XBOX one, they would have released the video, as they did with Valhalla back in the day.
@nomprenom440
Жыл бұрын
I don't appreciate Oliver... Dude can't make difference between Pokemon Arceus and Scarlet, he thinks Arceus are a open world game and much better that Scarlet...His video are very bad.
@vilwitz
Жыл бұрын
They should have a 40 fps VRR mode for the Quality option. It's the perfect balance in my opinion, loved it on Ratchet & Clank. Felt just smooth enough while looking absolutely stunning with no compromises.
@YouDontWantItWithMe
11 ай бұрын
Agreed. 40 fps VRR modes are my favorite feature of current gen consoles so far. A solid 40 with VRR smoothing out any uneven fps just feels amazing
@DepresjaToFikcja
8 ай бұрын
40 fps lol in 2023
@GavinAeilts
7 ай бұрын
The game runs at 60 FPS, they're saying that the 4K mode should at least be able to run it 40 FPS as opposed to 30. You realize that even PC gamers don't typically enjoy 4k 60fps right?@@DepresjaToFikcja
@ProjectFraz
5 ай бұрын
No compromises? Guys the compromise is 40 fps instead of 60.
@jessepinkman6253
Ай бұрын
Bro 40fps feels alot better. You know why? Cause 40fps can only be achieved if the ps5 runs at 120hz. And believe me, 120hz feels way smoother than 60fps running in 60hz output.@@ProjectFraz
@AndreThompson925
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to basically make this video twice. I played it on Series X at launch and I didn't mind the VRS but it's even better now. This game is worth playing. I'm on my second playthrough now and might consider an impossible run soon.
@dominicdococo4574
Жыл бұрын
i'm sure DF begrudgingly half expects these annoying last minute patches at this point. Oliver still did great work though!
@TK-zd7ym
Жыл бұрын
I did notice the VRS blurriness at launch but that one little update they released a few days back really made it look impressive in Performance Mode. It was incredible how bad that VRS made the image quality.
@Johnny_Ohio
Жыл бұрын
Is this game hard to play in general? Does it look better on series X then PS five? I have both consoles.
@TK-zd7ym
Жыл бұрын
@@Johnny_Ohio Looks pretty identical on both, I think there is a slight but not enough justification to get it on Xbox but you probably won't notice it. Get it for whichever you prefer, Achievements or Trophies
@Mr_M_
Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to me how the devs were able to fix any of Dead Space's visual bugs within a matter of weeks but Gamefreak who make the highest grossing gaming franchise in the world still haven't fixed Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, and Rockstar still haven't fixed their broken GTA trilogy remakes.
@terencecaron2922
Жыл бұрын
generally if a fix is ready that soon its cause they started working on it pre launch. As for Gamefreak, those guys havent released a real 3D pokemon runnin smoothly... ever. I dont think they care
@Transport4ThatDumpTruck
Жыл бұрын
Game freak has been able to get away will all their bullshit thx to using the weak hardware of the switch as a crutch. And R* will just do whatever at this point
@crzybrit8150
Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to me how we never had to worry a out these issues a long time ago... I mean the classic gta trilogy is nearly 20 years old and never had any issues yet the "definitive" edition is messed up. That truly shows the state of gaming developers when you make the same game from 20 years ago and it's worse.
@ScrapKing73
Жыл бұрын
@@gerboog They’re not the same style of Game, true. But it’s not a fair comparison either way, given Gamefreak has had so much more time to release fixes than the Dead Space team has.
@habijjj
Жыл бұрын
Pokemon players really only care about features.
@BENergizer1
Жыл бұрын
Your efforts to rework and redo this video are appreciated, Oliver! The game does look much better now that there are a few patches in place to address the VRS, and the fact that it's just as performant as before is very interesting, it makes me wonder if it's something specific to current-gen consoles or how VRS works within Frostbite that leaves the processing overhead almost identical to what it was before with VRS fully enabled.
@dominicdococo4574
Жыл бұрын
i hope they paid him twice lol! i've been checking every day for oliver's video. now i just need to see Alex's video and i'll know whether to get this on ps5 or pc!
@ia3630
Жыл бұрын
Probably a case of Less is More. VRS is great in principle but makes sense that meaningful integration would massively increase project complexity, suddenly many of the systems need to account for variable input/output. Dealing with the bugs probably wasn't worth it at this point.
@ianboylan1981
Жыл бұрын
You guys are the hardest working games channel today. Redoing the entire video due to a fast update is on the ball and no small feat. Massive respect. Us gamers really appreciate it, in fact I often wait for the Digital Foundry deep dives before I even touch most games now, especially PC ports.
@DefinitelyNotSade
Жыл бұрын
I really like Oliver as an addition to the crew. His analyses are often excellently produced and narrated, as well as being very informative and eloquent. It also doesn't hurt that he's a fellow Canuck!
@Rocksteady72a
Жыл бұрын
He's been around for longer than most though, hasn't he?
@johnboylan3832
Жыл бұрын
*Analysises.
@DefinitelyNotSade
Жыл бұрын
@@Rocksteady72a IIRC, the first video I remember hearing him on was the Ghostrunner next-gen console reviews, which came out in late 2020. His tenure relative to the other DF video producers, I'm not really familiar with.
@DefinitelyNotSade
Жыл бұрын
@@johnboylan3832 Analysisesisesises**
@dark1x
Жыл бұрын
Yep! He’s been such a wonderful addition to the team and is super nice too! ❤ Oliver b
@CyborgSodaCollects
Жыл бұрын
It's amazing that they were able to eliminate the VRS and maintain such steady performance. Dead space coming back is a dream come true.
@paul1979uk2000
Жыл бұрын
I know, VRS is supposed to reduce quality in areas where it's less noticeable and you have to wonder why they used it if performance is more or less the same without, unless they've done some big optimizing. Still, VRS is useful if done correctly and clearly, it was a poor implementation with this game.
@CyborgSodaCollects
Жыл бұрын
@@paul1979uk2000 I can't believe the game has such a low internal resolution. FSR 2.0 is doing an incredible job. Seems like the game has some more head room for performance now. Maybe we'll get another patch for improved screen space reflections 🤔
@ProjectFraz
5 ай бұрын
And the dream is dead. Apparently no dead space 2 remake and no new dead space. Oh but more battlefield, yippee *eyeroll*
@ice2163
Жыл бұрын
Those low image quality were very noticeable when you go into an elevator and Issac backs up to the walls and the camera gets pushed in. Thank goodness they fixed that.
@colteastwood
Жыл бұрын
The game was a pure joy, looks incredible and it's great to see it shine on PS5, Series X and even the S!
@KillerZxAce
Жыл бұрын
hotwestwood, the game is fun indeed
@bluntm4n9
Жыл бұрын
Joltsouthwood, I concur
@krissrock
Жыл бұрын
isn't VRS supposed to save GPU resources? wouldn't it better for them to get that working on the xbox at least (since it's hardware based). This sounds like them trying to use a software solution to VRS for the PS, is what caused them to not optimize it for the xbox.
@Nick-tl7ts
Жыл бұрын
To bad on PC it has horrendous traversal stutters
@Zeegoku1007
Жыл бұрын
@Michael Ikr, he's actually ColtBotWood 😂
@larrytaylor2692
Жыл бұрын
Once again the Xbox version doesn’t drop frames like the ps5 and never had that horrible image quality and it’s just brushed over. If it was the other way they would be going into why the Xbox version isn’t keeping up and making a big deal.
@playnicegames
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It’s weird how that happens time and time again.
@randomgamer19170
Жыл бұрын
I have frame stutters on ps5, ur saying series x doesn’t stutter?
@playnicegames
Жыл бұрын
@@randomgamer19170 no it’s pretty smooth
@danieljimenez3453
Жыл бұрын
Developers should aim to resolution mode @30fps, balanced @40fps and performance @60fps (with optional 60fps+ VRR) as a mandatory standard and use Horizon FW as an example.
@BucklingSwashes
Жыл бұрын
I've been playing Quality mode on Series X since launch and have been really, really impressed with its stability and visual fidelity. Motive did a great job with the this.
@xubairahmed951
Жыл бұрын
You don't mind 30 fps?
@BucklingSwashes
Жыл бұрын
@@xubairahmed951 Oddly, not in this case, and that's not typical for me. Not sure if it's because it's a very stable 30, or if the generally slower pace of the combat makes it feel less of a problem compared to faster-paced games, but the game feels very smooth at 30.
@xubairahmed951
Жыл бұрын
@@BucklingSwashes i tried quality mode which i couldn't play as it doesn't look as smooth as performance mode.
@von6413
9 ай бұрын
@@BucklingSwashesI’m playing this rn and it’s the same for me. I’m so confused cuz usually I can’t stand 30 fps but for this game it’s not really jarring to look at. I’m guessing since it’s not like super fast paced like a lot of other games.
@xm8lover
7 ай бұрын
Same, quality mode with the Ray traced AO just looks too good. And most of the reason it looks so smooth at 30 is because of the motion blur which is on by default. EA motive did an extremely good job with the motion blur in this game imo. So far if a game has good motion blur ive been sticking to quality modes.
@calvinmills1029
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for going out of your way to remake this video, I appreciate your hard work DF!
@m1garand164
9 ай бұрын
Just finished up 2nd playthrough on Series X. The game not only looks absolutely stunning, but it ran almost flawlessly in 60 fps the whole time, only experiencing one crash in all that time. And it was likely due to keeping my Series X on for a week straight without a power off or restart.
@redfirefox3568
Жыл бұрын
FSR was implemented so well. It actually looks like 1440p in performance mode despite the base resolution is just below 1080p.
@parsashirali8957
5 ай бұрын
Its basically the quality preset of fsr2 in this game which looks good
@dantesquivel0
Жыл бұрын
Between this remake and LOU on HBO, I'm REALLY feeling the love and respect for source material this 2023
@ryanblanchard2508
Жыл бұрын
Whatever you say Dante
@Nightwing978
Жыл бұрын
The work that goes into these videos are nothing short of outstanding..
@sixdegreesofgaming4719
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@shirkuh7125
Жыл бұрын
They fixed Loading time for PS5 as well, the loading time was like 17 sec The first time I played it's like 5 seconds now
@MasterMayhem78
Жыл бұрын
Did they stop the splash screens upon booting the game?
@billywilliams
Жыл бұрын
@@MasterMayhem78 unfortunately no.
@shirkuh7125
Жыл бұрын
@@MasterMayhem78 I didn't notice, I always start with "Resume play" which is usually less smother for every game and still haven't seen it myself
@nick13b
Жыл бұрын
@@billywilliams lol
@sb5253
Жыл бұрын
Had a good time with you, but boycotting the game „you know what one“ will change nothing and shows that you guys are twitter villagers
@paulooliveiracastro
Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that there is room for a potential 40fps quality mode on 120hz screens. Would be really appreciated.
@griffgames9538
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you delaying slightly to revise the video after the VRS update arrived (and made a big difference). 👍
@jakedizzle
Жыл бұрын
Can you guys hit up EA motive to add a HDR luminance slider or to use hardware level HDR calibration? That would be great.
@davewills6121
Жыл бұрын
Don't you think the professionals would have considered that?
@mig1017
Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this analysis. Thanks for the extra work you put in. 👌
@zcohen17
Жыл бұрын
The work y’all put in is crazy as always. Thanks for the video
@jarde1989
Жыл бұрын
Still highly disappointing there’s no *60fps performance mode on Series S…* really hope this gets added I couldn’t care less about 1440p when it only running at 30fps. Hell, even a 40fps mode would be appreciated.
@AssClapCowboy
Жыл бұрын
Get a current gen console if you wanna play current gen games
@TheBean87
Жыл бұрын
@@AssClapCowboyseries s is a current Gen console….seeing as this is a current Gen only game
@AssClapCowboy
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBean87 lmao keep telling yourself that bs. While your discount series x struggles to keep up with every new release in every single aspect. You were sold a Camry and told it was a sports car lol
@TheBean87
Жыл бұрын
@@AssClapCowboyI have an sx, an you’re clearly a troll.
@AssClapCowboy
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBean87 if you have an sx then I’m clearly not challenging that. If you have both then you’re just a moron lol
@pse2020
Жыл бұрын
I remember playing it at launch and noticed the artifacts. I just thought it was low res for the 60fps mode and was supriced the ps5 couldnt handle the game. But it seems that it was other gfx issues not low res. And the fact they updated it so fast is impressive indeed. I hope this studio gets the funds they need for their next project.
@randomgamer19170
Жыл бұрын
Do you have the stutters on ps5 performance mode? because I do
@pse2020
Жыл бұрын
@@randomgamer19170 i do not have that problem no.
@randomgamer19170
Жыл бұрын
@@pse2020 crazy that some players say to also have it and some don’t
@pse2020
Жыл бұрын
@@randomgamer19170 the only problems i have had have been some funny glitches and some fps drop but never had a gamebraking issue yet.
@randomgamer19170
Жыл бұрын
@@pse2020 and fps drop is a stutter, I never said gamebreaking issue
@gmbai
Жыл бұрын
Love how Oliver is concise yet engaging. Great work!
@Wrekkshoppe
Жыл бұрын
Are you implying that those who are concise, are NOT engaging?😅
@davidt3563
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! It's amazing how far graphics have come. Also hats off to everyone involved in designing the environments. You could take out all the enemies in the game and it would still be fun to explore the ship.
@oogravyoo
Жыл бұрын
I think it was Jeff Grubb that said he thinks VRS was left on by accident. It was used during development. Add FSR 2 and it turned it into an up sampling nightmare.
@Squishmallows24
Жыл бұрын
Seriously aren’t you people done with these games being released unfinished? lol it’s a joke. These games should be released at $20 since they aren’t the final product.
@ForeverVersatile
Жыл бұрын
I actually prefer the quality mode. It looked more natural for a slower paced game like dead space.
@kickfister
Жыл бұрын
VRS was likely engineered for the game/engine before FSR2 was released and known to be high quality. At high internal resolutions, the gains are probably worthwhile and play nice with traditional upscaling + DRS. They probably integrated FSR2 close to the end of development and didn't bother to disable VRS, though I find it hard to believe they didn't notice the issues. Possibly wasn't high enough priority to take care of for launch. VRS seems like a very bad combo with whole image reconstruction, and I can't imagine we're gonna see a lot of VRS this generation because of how good solutions like FSR2 are.
@thanksbetotap
Жыл бұрын
You can still use VRS for other things, though.
@denisruskin348
Жыл бұрын
Disabled VRS the day the patch arrived on PC. Ever since, it's been an amazing experience and optimisation is pretty spot on, outside the minor drops when loading areas.
@MarcoAurelio-hn1ys
Жыл бұрын
They could have unlocked the frame rate on Series S like Guardians of the Galaxy. I believe a 60fps update might release in the future if the console can handle like in the review code.
@OneLastScholar
Жыл бұрын
The console can 100% handle 60 FPS and nobody can question that, even if the resolution drops to 900p like Hogwarts Legacy or Cyberpunk. EA got lazy, again.
@thelazyworkersandwich4169
Жыл бұрын
@@OneLastScholar Not like it matters. The rules that is has to run on series s, whether they try or not is irrelevant. Especially when 90% of people buy the console for that publisher.
@ThunderingRoar
Жыл бұрын
@@OneLastScholar I dont think its lazyness, series S already renders the game 900p internally before FSR, if they were to make 60fps mode theyd have to render at 540p and then upscale to 1080p or something like that so the game would look like shit specially in darker areas
@OneLastScholar
Жыл бұрын
@@ThunderingRoar Honestly, I don't think that would be much of an issue - just give users an *option* to run the game at 60 FPS, resolution be damned. Mighty machines like XSX and PS5 running at 900p (!?) on Performance Mode (before FSR) is the bigger joke and a clear sign that optimization has a long way to go for this game. XSS can absolutely hit 60 if they work on it.
@SeiyaDLuffy
Жыл бұрын
@@OneLastScholar 540p not an issue on Series s? That sounds mad
@alfiedriver9138
Жыл бұрын
I honestly loved the game. I got it one day one patch and honestly didn’t see this bad detail. But now they have improved it, it looks even better. Almost done platinum on my PS5. Also I’d love to know more about how different the APUs are in the Xbox series X as that has hardware VRS. Love your videos!
@JamesGowan
Жыл бұрын
Great looking game but $70 is too much for MY budget. Will buy down the road!
@johnodaz1273
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video DF. I have been Playing Dead Space Remake on the PS5, I've almost Finished it and having a blast going through again after all these Years. I am Playing in Performance Mode on the PS5 and i have noticed afew Stutters here and there but the Game is so much fun regardless.
@xikaryo6735
9 ай бұрын
In case anyone’s curious, the PS5 version was fixed even beyond what you see in this video. It is amazing now, one of the cleanest image qualities I’ve seen. There were more patches after this video was posted too.
@SPG8989
3 ай бұрын
Such a damn liar
@Nick-tl7ts
Жыл бұрын
To be honest the traversal stutters during traversal are absolutely insane and are not given enough weight on this review
@SwurvGG
Жыл бұрын
on console? i heard the stutters arent bad on console at all. its the pc version that has that issue
@metroplex29
Жыл бұрын
Traversal stutters on consoles are minimal to the point of being almost imperceptible on consoles. The real problem is on PC, those traversal stutters can go from micro stutters to big spikes.
@ArchieBunker11
Жыл бұрын
Theres hardly any stutter on PC. And I dont need to render at 900p~ for 60 fps either. Callisto was bad at launch, but its been better than console since launch week too.
@mikem2253
Жыл бұрын
@@SwurvGG I barely even notice it. Its far from immersion breaking.
@Crimsongz
Жыл бұрын
@@ArchieBunker11 Lies
@zidan40o0
10 ай бұрын
My god raytracing is extremely overrated. The amount of FPS lost compared to the quality boost is not worth it. Period.
@jotawayhijo
Жыл бұрын
Incredible covering Digital Foundry. The comparisons are once again in favour of the slightly extra power of XSX, slighly higher internal res and around 7% extra framerate when drops occurs, but overall seems they are both enjoyable versions now. Good job.
@joeydirt420
Жыл бұрын
Dam really thats a surprise. What a shity developer.
@Fafnir2000
Жыл бұрын
2 extra Teraflop is not slight (inconsiderable), Don't forget whole xbox one and PS4 consoles are under 2 tfs
@Clay3613
Жыл бұрын
Making stuff up are we? Nowhere in the video is this stated.
@RandomGamingMoments925
Жыл бұрын
Tbh This game isn't exactly the most polished out there. Also, the fsr output resolutions are the same, a 7%higher internal resolution difference is impossible to spot with your naked eye. Maybe they'll release another update to tighten up the framerate for PS5 but I wouldn't hold my breath.
@RandomGamingMoments925
Жыл бұрын
@@Fafnir2000 Higher GPU clocks and uniform memory bandwidth can be a benefit on certain game engines as well.
@elbackapacko7138
Жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s just a late game thing, but my PS5 experience has been full of stutters recently. Especially in the mining area.
@bjornironsides6474
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the mining area was like that across all platforms and maybe still is. I was in that area during the 1.04 patch and it had a few more stutters than anywhere else in the game. It wasn't awful, but noticeable.
@VTorner
Жыл бұрын
The mining area is crap. I don't know what makes that area run like shit, given that other parts of the game (hidroponics) seems more detailed.
@mtn9272
Жыл бұрын
Mine too, PS5.
@omarcomming722
Жыл бұрын
Same on PC at the very start. I refuse to play until this is resolved, runs worse than Callisto did even with shader comp being frontloaded.
@waterprincess6444
Жыл бұрын
No issues on Xbox series x
@Revenant_Knight
Жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm missing something but if the final output resolution is 1440P, isn't it being upscaled again to 4K by either the console or TV if the screen resolution is 4K? Shouldn't they just still being using FSR to final output at 4K; like choosing Quality vs Performance mode in FSR settings?
@robreich6881
Жыл бұрын
More expensive
@ultimategohan1551
Жыл бұрын
the console will handle the upscapling from there, unless you have your xbox set to 1440p in the settings, then the the tv will. Curious as to why fsr just isnt set to 4k in both modes, as you said its the exact same thing a quality, balanced, performance etc. Although at 4k, 936p is like setting fsr to utlra mega performance lol. At 1440p its probably like setting fsr to performance maybe balanced. I guess to let the console handle the upscaling for whatever reason?
@bltzcstrnx
Жыл бұрын
FSR2 performance penalty rises depending on target resolution. Even from the same render resolution, targeting 2160p output resulted in higher performance penalty compared to 1440p.
@BenutzernameXY
Жыл бұрын
@@ultimategohan1551 with 1440p output you can upscale it in your tv settings. Its nice if you have a high end tv with good upscaling
@ultimategohan1551
Жыл бұрын
@@BenutzernameXY true but that only works if you set the xbox to 1440p. Some games actually output 4k(not always native, usually with fsr or similar). So in those games youre at 4k, but downscaling to 1440p just for the tv to upscale back to 4k. Leaving the xbox at 4k is a lot more convenient. Probably negligible on a high end tv as well, but letting the xbox handle the upscaling also guarantees the least amount of input lag since the xbox doesnt do anything fancy like a expensive tv does.
@dannonyogurt98
Жыл бұрын
Oh finally! not to sound too ungrateful but could we still get the original video? It would still be interesting to see I think most people would agree..
@Beaut_Beau
Жыл бұрын
My concern with all these peformance saving techniques like FSR/DLSS/XESS/VRS/ETC is that it will make developers lazy in terms of actually optimising their game to run properly. This game should be running at native 4k on a series x or a ps5. They have enough power. My old GTX 1080 Ti can do it, without relying on any tricks.
@Sosanatorz33
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, all they care about is money and making games woke nowadays.
@danielgomez7236
Жыл бұрын
Increasing the resolution means they would have to sacrifice other things
@izuthree
Жыл бұрын
One of many comments to say it, but props for how much work went into this; redoing significant amounts of the video for updates for relevancy is very respectable. It's a shame that it's necessary, but credit is also due for rapidly fixing a clearly problematic issue.
@landonmillerofficial
Жыл бұрын
It’s actually nuts if you think about how much they improved the graphics after launch. When else has that happened
@phattjohnson
Жыл бұрын
It was broken and they fixed it more to the point :P
@landonmillerofficial
Жыл бұрын
@@phattjohnson yeah it went from poor/mediocre to one of the best looking 9th gen console games
@danielgomez7236
Жыл бұрын
Also Horizon Forbbiden West, they removed some useless dynamic graphic thing, and now graphics are a whole lot better, even on PS4.
@singed420snowinit9
Жыл бұрын
Sadly the PC version is in an awful state, no matter how powerful your PC is it has stuttering issues everywhere and there's even a massive problem where the game kind of locks up and the fps tanks down anywhere from roughly 1-30, only solution is tabbing out and back in, waiting however long for it to fix itself or reloading a save. They seem to be working on a patch though so it'll likely address these issues.
@sven957
Жыл бұрын
i have the exact same issue with the alt tab thing. I feel like every single new release runs badly on pc. Can I ask how do you know they are working on a fix? They posted a thread on reddit where people can post IF they have stuttering issues on PC. And since then (more than a week ago) they have been dead silent AFAIK
@Mr.Thicket
Жыл бұрын
I felt like the only one. I know my PC is more powerful than consoles so I never know if it’s just the PC port or I’m using a graphical setting I shouldn’t be lol
@HesterDW
Жыл бұрын
I went from a 7700k to a 13600k this past weekend and the stuttering completely disappeared. Same GPU and Ram. It was horrible. If I played it on my 13600k first I'd be completely oblivious.
@WASD-MVME
Жыл бұрын
@@HesterDW that's a MASSIVE leap in cpu horsepower
@jamezxh
Жыл бұрын
I got shut down on about reporting this issue on another post. 5800x 32gig ram and 3080. Getting weird stutters. Some say it’s that denovu or what ever it is shit.
@RealDaveTheFreak
Жыл бұрын
Very in-depth, thx! Though... I'd love for 40fps become the new 30. It's just soo much better!
@BenutzernameXY
Жыл бұрын
40 feels like 60. it’s crazy (and I’m a 120fps oled player) I like 40fps sooo much
@lukemorris9066
5 ай бұрын
I get the 30fps cap in this games quality mode for some screens but literally take your series x offline and install the disc version and the quality mode runs at 50 to 60fps.... why not put in a vrr mode for those that can use it 🤷♂️
@Lavoss05
Жыл бұрын
I dont understand why at this point we are not getting native 2160P or 1440P and then frame rates at 30 and 60? the PS4 Pro and Xbox one X ran with better numbers then this given that textures and assets weren't as high but native Res in the 900's in 60fps and 1200's in the 30fps? If this was a Cross Gen title would we had seen better performance and resolutions? We where told that cross Gen titles where holding current Gen consoles back but so far I haven't been overly impressed.
@braedonlock3359
Жыл бұрын
It’s obvious as games get more complex it takes more compute power to run them. Now add bad optimization on top of that.
@Lavoss05
Жыл бұрын
You have a good point but this is Dead Space!! With a big developer behind it And we are talking about the power of the PS5 and Series X
@sirdan357
Жыл бұрын
Amazing game. I hope the RE4 and SH2 remakes live up to it.
@jarde1989
Жыл бұрын
RE4R will probably set a new standard for remakes if the game is consistent with the previews But idk about BlooberTeam and SH2R lol
@habijjj
Жыл бұрын
@@jarde1989 idk the difference seem very similar between this remake and re4 remake. When it comes to how it approaches the original source material. They both have made changes to add to the horror and even changes to story and characterizations. They are both going to be masterclasses in how remakes are done up there with ff7r.
@GG-ru2vv
Жыл бұрын
I love Oliver's delivery on his analyses. Great job on this one. Cheers!
@thanksbetotap
Жыл бұрын
How is the DualSense support in this game? Does it have “real” haptics, or basically just standard rumble?
@l3xforever
Жыл бұрын
Did vrs ever helped with performance in any game? Every time I benchmark it, it does nothing but introduce visual artifacts
@nitehawk-cg6jb
Жыл бұрын
This is probably why Sony chose not to include this hardware feature on the PS5. I remember reading somewhere it would have been super cheap to have it on there but maybe they didn't see the feature being too helpful overall.
@EmperorOfMan
Жыл бұрын
I believe there was a Wolfenstein Youngblood video a while back on PC where it helped if memory serves.
@kaints1
Жыл бұрын
@@nitehawk-cg6jb microsoft made it exclusive by pattent on consoles,thats why sony chose not to have hardware vrs
@VTorner
Жыл бұрын
Only VRS 2.0 on Xbox Series. See Doom Eternal, Metro Exodus and Gears 5.
@TruTrae
Жыл бұрын
Doom Eternal and Gears come to mind but other than that I can't think of other games that had a reasonable performance impact because of VRS.
@user-up8nr1dy3w
Жыл бұрын
Funny how Dead space traversal stutters on consoles are treating like Big deal issue , but no one is talking bout pc version that is basically a stutterfest even on top rigs.
@metroplex29
Жыл бұрын
they will analyze the pc version, they are just waiting for the patch that should be released today or tomorrow.
@braedonlock3359
Жыл бұрын
Well this video is titled ps5vs xbox, why would they talk about PC?? That will be a separate video.
@MrInuhanyou123
Жыл бұрын
Great to see all versions having a good showing for all modes now that VRS has been dumped. It's what I like to see 👍 cdproject with Witcher 3 could learn something
@goldensperm7182
Жыл бұрын
Sucks , cus one of velocity architecture features is VRS. But it appears that devs are not ready to implement it properly yet. It's a great feature since it can give more room for gpu performance. Hopefully they can nail it soon!
@mikew1080
Жыл бұрын
@@goldensperm7182 doesn't seem all that fine tuned to me. The best use for it is in Gears 5 and Doom Eternal. In both cases, I still notice it in use and would rather turn it off to get rid of artifacting. It's not as egregious as it is in Dead Space, but it bothers me regardless.
@ESKATEUK
10 ай бұрын
The fact they even released it like they did on ps5 is insane
@GuntromanCZ
Жыл бұрын
I wish they would do some Series S performance mode targeting 1080p after reconstruction. Maybe from 720p as base with DRS. Because if you use Series S on FullHD monitor it is good looking image. Yeah on 4K screen it looks like muddy water but for that there is SX.
@MostlyPennyCat
Жыл бұрын
I know right? All my TVs are 1080p and I'd rather have the frames please
@WASD-MVME
Жыл бұрын
That's the downside of console you get what you are given
@jamezxh
Жыл бұрын
720p rebaked on even a 50” tv would look like hot garbage
@GuntromanCZ
Жыл бұрын
@@jamezxh Read it in full and try to understand it. 720p was a base resolution for reconstruction to FullHD. Now it reconstructs from 900p to 1440p. But if you do have 50" FullHD TV it does not matter much, because those pixels are big as truck.
@jamezxh
Жыл бұрын
@@GuntromanCZ I do understand. It would look like crap
@Apoplectic_Spock
Жыл бұрын
I totally predicted Oliver would take this assignment! Thanks for the great review, Oli!
@coolegast2194
Жыл бұрын
Hurry up with the Hogwarts technical review!!!! Need best settings
@iKilLaMoDz
Жыл бұрын
They caved to the cancel culture crowd. You won't be getting one so look else where.
@coolegast2194
Жыл бұрын
@@iKilLaMoDz Elenalista has one
@soraaoixxthebluesky
Жыл бұрын
At this point 40fps should be mandatory as we already hit performance ceiling of curreny gen consoles
@SlickOnTop
Жыл бұрын
A 720p 60fps mode for the Series S would be a nice option for existing users of the console.
@AssClapCowboy
Жыл бұрын
Get a current gen console if you wanna play current gen games
@martinflores7354
Жыл бұрын
It is a current game on a current console azz wipe
@AssClapCowboy
Жыл бұрын
@@martinflores7354 Series s is not current gen. Only delusional suckers believe that. You got swindled by MS into buying an underpowered brick and it runs current gen games like dog shit and every time people ask “huh I wish this ran in 60fps on my obsolete series s”. It’s not hard to figure out. That console is also holding the generation back.
@TheBean87
Жыл бұрын
@@AssClapCowboymost games do run at 60fps, don’t believe me? Look it up.
@AssClapCowboy
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBean87 yeah in dogshit resolution. That, I believe…trust me. You are drinking the kool-aid if you think you are getting a current gen experience from that cereal box
@TheBatosai
Жыл бұрын
What's amazing is that this game looks 10x times better than Calisto (Imo).
@AlphaDwg
Жыл бұрын
so is VRS not ready for primetime or did they just do poor job of it? Doom Eternal had a very good implementation of it on series x
@TheBean87
Жыл бұрын
Poor job of it.
@mikem2253
Жыл бұрын
Poor implementation. I don't understand why they even used it when the overhead seems more than good without it.
@braedonlock3359
Жыл бұрын
Terrible implementation it’s actually pretty good when done right. 1800p 120 fps on Doom Eternal locked. 1440p 60 on gears with all PC ultra + settings higher than ultra.
@nicolaimadsen7036
Жыл бұрын
Please help me understand.. the game runs at 936p !?? internally and is upscaled to 1440p?
@iKilLaMoDz
Жыл бұрын
Well unsubbed. I can't believe you caved to the cancel culture crowd. Hogwarts Legacy will probably be the biggest selling game of 2023 and you all refuse to cover it. Beyond disappointed was looking forward to see what settings tanked performance, best settings, etc. Guess I don't need to wait for these videos anymore for a PC release.
@Billy_Gazepis
Жыл бұрын
No one talks about the very serious game breaking bugs that the game has. Like death loop glitch and others. There are users that couldn't progress the game because of these. It doesn't make sense that when the game starts you can not go straight to the menu and load any save you want.
@tomd4748
Жыл бұрын
On 2nd play through, and I’ve encountered none of this. Probably a hardware issue.
@Billy_Gazepis
Жыл бұрын
@@tomd4748 It's on Ps5, as an example. What hardware issue are you talking? You are saving your game and at that exact moment a monster kills you. That's it. Your game is over, because the game doesn't let you load a previous file and it gets the death loop endlessly. Even if you where not unlucky, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. What is the purpose of having multiple save files if you cannot access them at the start of the game? And on pc is it acceptable not loading important assets if your hard drive is not quick enough?
@oliverolivar7884
Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this video! As always, excellent work on covering what was a bit of an annoying issue. Hopefully, they are able to fix that brief stutter to make the game feel even more polished. Also, it would be nice if you guys could cover the last update made on the Witcher 3 for PS5 and the series consoles.
@MurCurieux
Жыл бұрын
Why play a game right off the hop when you can wait 3-4 months and have it patched correctly and get it on sale?
@Sosanatorz33
Жыл бұрын
That’s the exact reason I stopped pre-ordering games.
@MurCurieux
Жыл бұрын
@@Sosanatorz33 preach!
@broadbanditt
Жыл бұрын
I really wish they would give us the unlock framerate option on console. Beat it last night and loved every second but almost missed out on the unpatched version running unlocked in quality mode.
@summerofblake6461
Жыл бұрын
especially for when the next gen consoles come around, being able to play this at 4k 60fps in backwards compat mode would be nice.
@frey0r
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting in the extra work and redo the vid!
@dougkaplan1449
Жыл бұрын
When loading the game on XSX out of Quick Resume, I get quite a bit of loading stutters as I go from room to room. Hopefully that can be fixed but it's a simple workaround regardless.
@habijjj
Жыл бұрын
Tbh quick resume can be funky depending on the game. When I play fallout 4 using quick resume I can play it for a bit but then it will 100% of the time crash in about 20 to 30 minutes.
@nicowank634
Жыл бұрын
I think a semi stable 60fps mode on series s would still be better then no 60fps mode
@superregera799
Жыл бұрын
Two bad this ships with Denuvo on PC. I really wanted to try this one out, but I'm not installing that software. Great coverage from DF on this one, though!
@metroplex29
Жыл бұрын
While Denuvo may very slightly affect performance, this is not the case for Dead Space, as those stutters also occur on consoles...
@superregera799
Жыл бұрын
@@metroplex29 Who cares about the performance? It's how invasive the software is that most people have a problem with.
@muttglutton
Жыл бұрын
10:13 I played through the game on PS5 and noticed traversal stutter A LOT (using HDMI 2.1 and 120hz display) - hopefully they fix this but otherwise fantastic experience!
@FJTabb
Жыл бұрын
No issues on my PS5
@sugonmaballs
Жыл бұрын
Think I saw it a few times. Definitely not a lot or enough to impact gameplay.
@lepremierdunom200
Жыл бұрын
stuttering on ps5?
@nick13b
Жыл бұрын
@@FJTabb nah, sorry bro ps5 sucks
@FJTabb
Жыл бұрын
@nick13b you may want it too lol!
@kostasbousbouras2654
Жыл бұрын
Amazing job DF! I am really glad they removed VRS and now the game looks much better and plays also great. XSX and PS5 are the same and XSS does a pretty good job too. So, cudos to the devs that they fixed so soon the issues, especially on PS5 and I am looking forward to play again this masterpiece after all these years!
@sachoslks
Жыл бұрын
12:37 whats up with the noisy reflection on the ground? i thought that was a VRS problem but it seems the issue still is present on the current version
@selohcin
Жыл бұрын
It is mind-boggling that both PS5 and Series X have to render this game at resolutions lower than 1080p just to keep 60 frames per second. I mean, REALLY?!?
@user-sp8fi2zv2v
Жыл бұрын
Like Shitspoken on PS5 which drops to 720p and even then can't handle 60fps 🤣🤣
@wiskerfall4519
Жыл бұрын
The fsr 2 looks pretty good in my opinion in this game the dark environment hide a lot of artifacts
@djayjp
Жыл бұрын
40fps with VRR really needs to be standard on all new releases.
@RazorGT1300
Жыл бұрын
Its posible to enable this on ps5?
@djayjp
Жыл бұрын
@@RazorGT1300 Yep for example Ratchet and Clank has that mode.
@junde.
Жыл бұрын
unpatched quality mode runs with a unlocked framerate but you would have that vrs problem
@jacqueskloster4085
Жыл бұрын
30 fps is not acceptable at all in a game where you need to aim fast and shoot limbs off of fast moving targets... The resolution is ridiculous, given how great console exclusives on the PS5 run and look. Who on this planet would sacrifice 30 frames for slightly better shadows... I don't get it.
@ovwarrior
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a dino crisis remake!
@andrewwitham8493
Жыл бұрын
That's on my bucket list believe it or not. 🤣
@BlueRaz21
Жыл бұрын
The effort is appreciated 👍🏻
@dragowXX
Жыл бұрын
Serie S win
@User83177
Жыл бұрын
winning with 30fps ? don’t think so
@dragowXX
Жыл бұрын
@@User83177 lot of lights and details was in shadow in serie X and ps5 version did you catch that ?
@phase_1471
Жыл бұрын
@dragowXX still images can look as good as you want. If you're actually playing a game then you need a smooth framerate to enjoy it, not a sideshow.
@dragowXX
Жыл бұрын
@@phase_1471 they also said you can deblock the fps limitation on serie S
@jonesygrets6029
Жыл бұрын
I was very impatient waiting for this video . But I have to thank-you for holding off and doing it right after the new patch. Thank-you digital foundry you do an amazing job
@lilivier
Жыл бұрын
Would be great to have a 40fps mode
@chuckyluvsu13
Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for your time.
@R0ZZAY
Жыл бұрын
It's a shame that they just removed VRS entirely because this is probably the best game to use VRS in since there are so many dark spots or entirely black pixels I'm not sure how difficult it would be to improve the tech for this game but I feel like eliminating entirely is an oversight
@izuthree
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, it's a shame they nixed it entirely but I also don't blame them for turning it off as a quick fix. I'd be surprised if they aren't looking into fixing and fine tuning the implementation internally regardless, since Dead Space really is a very good testbed for them to get a robust solution for the engine - it is Frostbite, an EA internal engine, after all.
@phattjohnson
Жыл бұрын
I think they rushed this fix out just to get it working on PS5 again, but there's nothing stopping them from releasing another patch down the line!
@melxb
Жыл бұрын
yeah but it's not excellently used even CODs software vrs looked way better
@melxb
Жыл бұрын
@@phattjohnson why when it runs just the same without it
@danielgomez7236
Жыл бұрын
Sadly VRS is not working properly or as expected, so it had to be totally removed, VRS still needs a lot of development before beign applied to games.
@osirismaximus2787
Жыл бұрын
Sorry you had to do this TWICE! Thank you for all your hard work!
@LeaningTowerOfCheese
Жыл бұрын
I've been playing for about 6 hours now on PS5. I've noticed a lot of FPS drops or micro stuttering when moving between areas. The worst was when you enable zero-G in the hydroponics area with the elevator. I have yet to even enter the mining area which people say is the worst area for this behavior. I have also encountered a sound glitch where a sound effect persisted until I reloaded from the last save. There is also some sort of audio popping / crackling in the background of the soundtrack. It's not bad and it's not loud and it doesn't cut out the audio but it's there. I'm surprised John didn't notice it in his video. Just wanted to give my 2 cents. Idk maybe my console is fucked up or the SSD is.
@kalameet5600
Жыл бұрын
No I've had these frame drops and stutters also on PS5. Mining area is very bad
@frankvandermerwe1487
Жыл бұрын
I havent experienced a single issue on ps5.
@kalameet5600
Жыл бұрын
@@frankvandermerwe1487 interesting
@ghost085
Жыл бұрын
Contrary to what some other channel might say, you don't need to boost your brightness to notice that pixelated look on PS5 pre-patch.
@itz_x_salvation395
Жыл бұрын
Still crazy how amazing the original looks.
@Alanoid8080
Жыл бұрын
Finally!!! Been waiting for this review a long time!!!!!
@EnslavedGamer
Жыл бұрын
When Hogwart Legacy Analysis?
@PatsHungryGaming
Жыл бұрын
So at the end of the day it doesn’t make sense to use FSR 2 and VRS 1 or 2 at the same time, because it impacts image quality.
@damgood7525
Жыл бұрын
Nooo.. is just they downgraded the xbox version to run the ps5 version because ps5 can't do all the RDNA2 features 🤦♂️
@christos6462
Жыл бұрын
Still no PC version. Looks like it's gonna be huge.
@mikem2253
Жыл бұрын
Alex is probably gonna be upset
@DamienFromPoison
Жыл бұрын
Okay, the FSR may look alright, but still...they basicly have to render the game at sub 1080p to get stable 60 fps?! Something is very wrong with this generation.
@killacam2K5
Жыл бұрын
If you have the disc version and install it on Series X I found that you can run the game between 40-50 FPS with VRR when it's enabled on the console and hdmi 2.1 TV and output is set to 120 hz I found this out due to the fact my TCL 6 series is returning 120 Hz in the input info when my Xbox is set to 120 hz output meaning it's running anywhere between 40-50 fps definitely when VRR is enabled. Probably works on hdmi 2.0 spec at 1440p on Xbox too.
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