“Every time I start it, it puts a smile on my face”. Never mind the tech, the performance, the looks and every thing else. This is the best reason for owning a bike 😀😀😀
@rogerwredford
10 сағат бұрын
Absolutely, be it a 250, a 750 or a 1200, Japanese, Italian, British or even Indian
@splodge5714
7 сағат бұрын
I'd rather have a reliable bike that also puts a smile on my face.
@martythompson6509
20 сағат бұрын
Re BSA, as a former dealer i can tell you why they won't trade them in..... No one wants them. So the only way a dealer will take a slow seller is if it's so cheap it doesn't matter if it's in stock for a year.
@geraldscott4302
15 сағат бұрын
There is a reason why no one wants them, and it should be obvious.
@specialcircs
6 сағат бұрын
yeah really it's not much of a mystery is it? If he's selling it with 570 miles on the clock, he thinks it's not good, right?
@rkr6237
6 сағат бұрын
@@geraldscott4302 too much of an unknown quantity?
@jamesdspaderf2883
5 сағат бұрын
🤣 ... kind of a blinding flash of the obvious, when you put it that way. Anytime there's a 'puzzle' follow the money line. That usually answers the question.
@apacherider7110
11 сағат бұрын
The guy selling the BSA with 600 miles. I think he's answered his own question of why he can't get rid of it.🤔
@thebimblewizard1242
22 сағат бұрын
Was a midges bawhair away from buying a bsa shadow black. Changed my mind at the last minute and bought a 18 year old bonny 865 carb with 5k on the clock and full service history . Changed the rear shocks and fork springs for hagons I'm such a happy chappy now.
@tamc1766
21 сағат бұрын
Big Chap ! Mon the Jocks ... I've got a 2007 Scrambler 865 air cooled ! 9000 miles .. bulletproof
@peterbucklitsch7454
18 сағат бұрын
Probably the large margin on the new bike sale from the manufacturer.
@johnbiddal5951
19 сағат бұрын
Bought a new XJ 900 J (shaft drive) in 1992 and passed it on to my son after 27 years. He toured the Yorkshire Dales on it this summer, two up. No major issues, just the usual tyres, pads etc: It had nearly 71,000 miles on the clock when I passed it on to my son. ( Laid it up November-April each year and used a 250 MZ) Regular oil changes and pre ride checks seem to keep it running forever.
@geraldscott4302
16 сағат бұрын
I bought a new Kawasaki Vulcan 750 in 1993, put 88,000 miles on it, and sold it to buy a new Kawasaki KLR650. That didn't work out. Uncomfortable, seat was too high, and it had flat prone tube type tires. A year later, I traded it for a new 2002 Kawasaki Vulcan 750. I put 118,000 miles on that one, until a broken cam chain destroyed the engine. I then found a really nice used 1997 Kawasaki Vulcan 750 with 12,000 miles on it, for $2200 USD. It looked almost new. I am now up to 39,000 miles on it. I now have over 230,000 miles on three Kawasaki Vulcan 750s, with very few problems. By far the most miles I have ever put on one model of motorcycle.
@brucegeange7082
11 сағат бұрын
Because bad news travels faster than a bsa
@Lee-70ish
22 сағат бұрын
Basic BSA problem IHMO is its aimed at the classic older retro rider But old school buyers dont want a water cooled shim and bucket engine with a whacking great rad . Thats not condusive to home servicing and looks totally wrong. If it had been an air/oil cooled single . It would have given the 650 Enfields a run for its money.
@markjones_007
21 сағат бұрын
Well a lot obviously do
@kelvinjolley6264
21 сағат бұрын
Definitely yes to it being air oil cooled,I have a 2005 Kawasaki w650 just air cooled brilliant,no radiator no antifreeze problems.
@SamWaide-t6r
19 сағат бұрын
Some do and I'm one of the older riders riding motorcycles from 1970 90cc to 1400cc touching 70 soon have a few bikes 96 bmw r850r 1970 yamaha yas1 which I restored yamaha rayzr 125 for when I'm feeling my age and a n early 23 goldstar ladt bsa I owned was a three month old A65L back in 72 so I have no trouble with the bsa radiator water cooling up to now it's been trouble free as for servicing TEC have a video on showing servicing including valve adjustment no problem for the average riders I no mist riders my age came from a time when you done all your own maintenance it has no more problems than the new Indian made triumph 400 and yet it doesn't make the news
@ianyoung2839
18 сағат бұрын
Y😮@@SamWaide-t6r
@michaelcallan4121
13 сағат бұрын
Fully agree - RE 350 classic and Bullet selling well - they are air cooled and transport you back in time, new BSA should not have gone water cooled it simply doesn't work. If necessary to pass euro 5 then they should have produced an air cooled 350cc Gold Star instead of a 650. New Triumphs are also 270° degree cranks plus water cooled so also not proper retro machines.
@jfro5867
11 сағат бұрын
Motorcycle market is brutal. It’s not just BSA. You walk into most dealers and there is little to no used stock. Dealers are going bust all over the place.
@lespritmanouche
2 сағат бұрын
I've owned my Guzzi Californian from new in 1976 - she's still going strong and still puts a smile on my face within seconds of getting on her.
@cliveadams7629
23 сағат бұрын
Ask yourself the question, why don't you want your BSA Goldstar? Maybe that will give you a clue as to why no one else does.
@kass9722
18 сағат бұрын
finally...someone gets it🎉
@carlnapp4412
6 сағат бұрын
Well put, congrats!
@kerryburns-k8i
6 сағат бұрын
Because it isn't a BSA and it isn't a Gold Star.
@markiesmith4537
3 сағат бұрын
@@kerryburns-k8i They knew those things when they bought it... more likely that they are slow and disappointing to ride - especially if the buyer previously owned a twin, triple or multi.
@fernandoprpinheiro
20 сағат бұрын
I guess I bought a Guzzi made on wednesday, nobody built it while hangover or craving for the weekend 😅 I must say that I do all the maintenance on the bike by myself and I take good care of her. Not even a tiny sign of corrosion anywhere, it just runs and looks as it was new... Easiest bike to work on btw! But then again, I also had an Alfa Romeo and sold it after 16 years and around 300k km without any big issues 😅
@KB-uu4fy
7 сағат бұрын
I bought a HD Sportster XLH883 for commuting to London in 2000. I kept it standard, put a screen on it, covered it in S100 protectant every winter, washed it off in spring. I did 110.000 trouble free miles in 10 years. I still ride her occasionally and she still has the original clutch and Harley clutches are paper BTW, at least were then if not now. I do all my own servicing. I would never spend the money they want for Harley’s these days, or many other makes come to that. All my bikes are carbureted, so I can do my own work.
@moog247
22 сағат бұрын
I nearly bought a Goldstar but got a dull but worthy Honda CL500 instead which is very well finished and I know is absolutely not going to let me down.
@JC-he7yk
21 сағат бұрын
I just wished ths cl500 looked a bit more retro. It's in a no man's land.
@exeterrider
18 сағат бұрын
The CL500 is a better bet...brilliant bike, great fun too
@mattdog1982
5 сағат бұрын
I hired one of those in Gran Canaria. Brilliant bike
@mattdog1982
5 сағат бұрын
If they made the cl with similar weight and the same engine as the cbr300, I’d buy it tomorrow
@exeterrider
4 сағат бұрын
@@mattdog1982 it's not far off to ride though. It feels the same weight to me pretty much
@googlecontrolled
21 сағат бұрын
I bought a new Goldstar 2 months ago and love it to bits. If someone wants to buy any bike and sell it within a year to part ex then they shouldn't have rushed into it as its bound to be a big depreciation. My brand new car lost a third in value as soon as I drove it off the forecourt. Wait, buy the bike you want and keep it long term. I intend to keep mine as long as I can and then I will give my opinion on reliability. My chinese Benelli trk502x is 5 yrs old from new to me with no problems so I would call that reliable enough for me. If people don't change so often then that way prices stay low for all bikes. If people stopped changing bikes like they're underwear they wouldn't have to worry. Too many people with an opinion and opinions are like arseholes ( most of them stink) Buy a bike, if the warranty is finished then get your spanners out and mend it like I've always done with any vehicle, cars,campers,vans & motorbikes. If someone can use the tools then they'll get some cheap bargains, if you can't mend things then buy expensive premium brands and stop moaning about cheap bikes and lack of having you're arse wiped by a dealer. In fact I might buy a spare goldstar and Trk502x as donor bikes just like I used to when vehicles were getting older back in the 90's.
@danielwebster1651
20 сағат бұрын
Have had 2 diversion 900 s. Both did over 100,000 miles without issues . Sold each one after using them to commute 100 miles a day to work in all weathers
@mickcresswell1031
22 сағат бұрын
Voge 300 - comes with hand guards, engine guards as standard. The seat height may sound daunting, but the suspension sags quite a lot, to make it reasonable.
@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555
8 сағат бұрын
It's a bitsa, a cobbled together £4.5k bike with a £2k badge slapped on it's tank.
@roadstrom
22 сағат бұрын
I bought a XJ 900 Diversion brand new in 1999 and put 173000 kilometers on it all over Australia
@Tpr41
19 сағат бұрын
Another Aussie here. I had a XJ900 Diversion for 10 years and loved every minute with it.
@frankcourtney6413
9 сағат бұрын
70,000 Australian Km on my Divvi and it's here for good. I wasn't a fan of the soft front end, so Progressive springs and cartridge valves went into the forks along with braided lines and blue spots off a 2001 R1. Great commuter bike and very suited to touring.
@alanflint7732
9 сағат бұрын
When i finally passed my DA test in 2015, (mod 2 test in 2012 cancelled after breaking my wrist on the morning) I went to the dealership to try a few bikes. Settled on a mt07. I loved the solidity and feel of the bike. I was in the process of buying a house in Corfu. Come January 2016, I was told that i had to visit Corfu to sign the paperwork. Theres no direct flights to Corfu from the UK in winter. So with 6 months riding the mt07, i decided to bike to Greece in January. Brilliant ride. Bike was faultless. Switzerland was brass monkeys cold. I kept the bike for several months after getting back to the uk. But i decided to sell it, rather than transport it to Greece when i moved. I wish i had made the effort to take it with me. I remember the dealership looked at the tyres, then at the odometer and questioned the mileage. Hardly any wear after over 5000 miles. But im not a knees down type of rider. Id have another mt any day. So reliable.
@trevortrevortsr2
23 сағат бұрын
A fake BSA made god knows where with plastic, foot leavers that look like they belong on a tractor and a radiator slapped on is never going to be a classic - at least a Meteor is a honest retro
@brattonbiker6482
20 сағат бұрын
Japanese bikes have perhaps lost the dominance they once had in the bike market. There are many desirable bikes from other brands, but Japanese bikes rarely let you down. Listening to some of these stories, I'm thankful for my Yamaha XSR900.
@JordyPressman
23 сағат бұрын
My dads brand new Goldstar blew up on him after the first service, head gasket blew on our trip down to New Forest...
@daigriffiths399
2 сағат бұрын
So the dealer didn't do a proper service; part of the first service should have been checking the torque of the cylinder head bolts as well as all the other bolts on the bike. You did take the dealer to the cleaners?
@raybell7696
23 сағат бұрын
Can't PX because they aren't reliable and waiting for parts is a nightmare apparently. Look lovely but buyers have no faith in the brand..
@tuesdayatdobbs
23 сағат бұрын
Interesting
@Paulie44
23 сағат бұрын
Stuart Fillingham seems to rave about the BSA though? I wonder how much they pay him? 🤔
@cliveadams7629
23 сағат бұрын
@@Paulie44 Has he got one? Maybe he's just trying to sell it if he has. Or perhaps it's because he's an idiot.
@ColinCarFan
22 сағат бұрын
@@Paulie44 Not everyone is on the take. Try to think positively, it will get you further in life and you'll be happier.
@Paulie44
21 сағат бұрын
@@ColinCarFan I do, hence the reason I haven’t rushed out to buy a BSA based on Stuart Fillingham’s suggestion
@trailingarm63
22 сағат бұрын
239 kgs for a Yamaha Diversion 900 is certainly not "ridiculously heavy". You're 6ft 1 with a big frame for god's sake. You would have absolutely no problem handling this bike and it would out-perform your Bonneville in many respects. How much does that Indian weigh which you're so chuffed with at the moment? The 900 Diversion has shaft drive which is one reason for a few extra kilos, and it probably has a centre stand, a few kilos more, but both these features are valuable additions to a lot of the trendy rubbish you tend to go gaga about. Re Vogue seat height: as with all enduro types the suspension will compress when you sit on it so don't write it off without trying it. Re BSA Gold Star: it's a plodder mainly of interest to old codgers, it's also an insult to the memory of the original Gold Stars which were cutting-edge & built for club racing. I'm not surprised their value is going off a cliff. Japanese bikes certainly can have character. I loved my Suzuki SV1000 naked which I bought new in 2005. Only sold it because of a cash-crisis. Good episode, really enjoyed it.
@longjonwhite
20 сағат бұрын
Yeah, but he’s a 6’1” vegetarian…
@pinkerton2964
40 минут бұрын
239kg is the dry weight with 24 litres of fuel, engine/shaft/brake fluid etc it's more like 275kg which is fairly heavy especially as it's a bit top heavy.
@trailingarm63
6 минут бұрын
@@pinkerton2964 Yeah, my RT is 278kg, and I'm
@jamesdspaderf2883
3 сағат бұрын
Freddie, about the BSA, check Moto Tingle's video "BSA Gold Star 650 - How much did the previous owner lose in 12 months?" That will answer all your questions.
@martinl1422
Сағат бұрын
U R right, I saw this clip and agrese 💯
@andyhollund493
22 сағат бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, the HD Sportster were discontinued because the engine couldn't meet the latest emissions standards.
@sergentcolon1
9 сағат бұрын
It could have, Harley just didn’t want to spend the money doing it, the Chinese brand Shineray has released a clone of the Sportster with a 1200cc very similar engine to Harley’s Evo engine and made it euro 5 compliant.
@mattdog1982
5 сағат бұрын
Massive mistake by harley
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449
19 сағат бұрын
I love my V85tt Moto Guzzi , it’s been a fantastic bike , have done 22,000km , with only one small issue that required a remap around 1500km. I had a Yamaha XJ900 Division a 2001 model , was a great bike ( definitely not fast ) BUT a comfortable tourer with a trouble free shaft drive .
@dbharrold
22 сағат бұрын
I am the bloke with the Moto Guzzi. I am not ignorant about bikes. I’ve been riding and maintaining them for 46 years. I may well have had a lemon I didn’t say they were all bad but mine was full of niggling faults
@Downsh1ft
19 сағат бұрын
People are just ignorant. They only take their own experience into account, then form a strong unshakeable opinion. Never considering that maybe not all Moto Guzzi examples are reliable and get offended if someone has had a different experience. and that pretty much sums up every internet conversation.
@darylclifford
16 сағат бұрын
Once an owner loses faith in their bike the best remedy is to replace it !!
@nickyfield137
11 сағат бұрын
The decision is best left to the man in the arena. Whatever and however you're riding, enjoy !
@foggyrf9
8 сағат бұрын
My V7 has not been faultless but I've never been stranded. 12000 miles a year since new, currently on 49000. Sorry your experience was negative.
@baronvonchickenpants6564
6 сағат бұрын
I had a V50 it had more than just niggling faults😅
@johnfitchie9892
21 сағат бұрын
I love Guzzis currently a V85tt, would I recommend buying one err probably not, Guzzi ownership is not for the fainthearted you never know if your getting one of the Friday afternoon specials or not, but when they are good they are very good.....
@Dave-zz9fk
15 сағат бұрын
Freddie, I think one of the reasons why owners may be asking such high prices for their Harleys is because there is a good chance they have spent thousands on accessories / upgrades and are trying to get some of that money back. It is very rare to see a 'stock' Harley for sale. Whilst one of the great things about Harley is the staggering range of after market and Harley accessories you can buy, an issue is many owners feel they need to spend money to make their bikes what they want them to be. My own experience of this was when I bought a new Harley Fat Bob (previous generation). I fell in love with the bike and bought it new, but after a short time, I realised the rear suspension was pants (I'm a taller, heavier guy), so added the upgraded Harley suspension front and rear - this made for a massive improvement. Then I realised the seating position was a bit cramped - so bought the big / tall seat from Harley - brings you up and back a couple of inches (again, brilliant seat made a huge difference). Then, it's a Harley, so of course I had to purchase an after market exhaust. This then allowed me to fit foot boards. Then I added the panniers and LED headlight as I wanted to use it for touring. Of course doing all of this was my own decision - and when I traded it in, (on an Indian Chief Vintage) I did not get any money back that I had spent. I would advise people to just be cautious when accessorising and not to expect to get a return on that investment. Or buy and Indian instead of Harley - sacrilege I know. But I found Indian offers bikes from the factory that do not need the accessories that Harley's often do to make them more useable (also, Indian build quality and quality in general is better).
@teamtempest844
22 сағат бұрын
Buying a "BSA"... MAHINDRA bike... what on earth were these purchasers expecting!? Too many issues with them. They're not selling at £4,999 much, perhaps marketing fooled these silly old boys! Keep the bike, why are they getting rid after only one year... tells you everything about the bike.
@maskedavenger2578
7 сағат бұрын
You could say the same about Triumph ,KTM & BMW , they seem to have more than their fare share of issues , call backs .
@splodge5714
7 сағат бұрын
BMW recalls and reliability problems yes but Triumph are not comparable to BSA.
@maskedavenger2578
6 сағат бұрын
@@splodge5714 I have heard some nasty tales of woe & issues regarding modern Triumphs . They should be perfect especially when they got a brass neck to charge the rip of prices they fleece their punters for their overpriced crocks , not to mention the rip off service & part & accessory charges .
@teamtempest844
6 сағат бұрын
Yes Triumph are poor quality, people fall in love with the brand name, unaware the 400 is Indian. The BMW 310 bikes are TVS in India too, stick a BMW badge on them and people are easily fooled.
@loki1066
21 сағат бұрын
The 900 quid xj DID have an MOT - 12 months!!! Stop off at Specsavers in your next jaunt.
@cowmath77
23 сағат бұрын
Motorcyclists, especially new ones, notoriously praise every single new bike with reliability and performance in the honeymoon period. “I’ve had my new Kawi for 7 days and I’m over the moon! Such good reliability! It’s perfect!” No shot! Put 10,000 miles on 4 different bikes and get back to me. The opinion that “I love this bike and it’s good,” means absolutely nothing without experience and mileage. Thats why I do really enjoy good motorcycle journalism channels like this one.
@EbenBransome
22 сағат бұрын
Back in the days of paper magazines and the British Motorcycle Industry, nothing British was ever bad for fear of losing advertising. Then the Japanese and Italians started to advertise and guess what. Nothing whose maker could afford advertising was bad. Then Bike came along and started telling uncomfortable truths. But, many years ago, a senior quality bod at Ford gave me some advice which I have followed ever since. Never, ever buy anything in its first model year or, if it's low volume, the first two years. And never buy new but 6 to 18 months old. When the initial defects have been fixed and infant mortality hasn't happened.
@warrenr4
21 сағат бұрын
Spot on !! I piss my pants when a KZitemr praises a new Chinese bike and the comments include ‘fantastic ! I’m putting one on order’ 🤣🤣
@motolab.EuropeanMotorcycles
20 сағат бұрын
@@warrenr4well spoken! Same with “honest” and “in depth” reviews….
@fullthrottle2008
19 сағат бұрын
@@EbenBransomethe infant mortality got me, so true!!! 😂
@johnnythefox9830
18 сағат бұрын
I owned a z1000 mk2 with rear sets and a harris exhaust. That bike had character 😂
@douglasharre7156
18 сағат бұрын
Your summary comment at @9:35 sums up why Japanese cars/bikes/things have (traditionally) worked reliably over the past 50 years. The Japanese economy post-war and consumers have a lot to thank W. Edwards Deming for. Quality is a 24x7 attitude.
@doughoffman9463
15 сағат бұрын
Spot on. I wonder how many know who Deming is and why the Japanese industry revered his ideas.
@aeroearth
12 сағат бұрын
The Japanese culture is strong on honour. It is dishonourable to sell your Customer something that continually goes wrong. Japan has become wealthy by making and selling the best products in the World, as have the UK, the USA and Germany. Though the latter three are and have now failed.
@doughoffman9463
6 сағат бұрын
@@aeroearth You are right. But there is no 'magic' involved in achieving this quality. Deming, an American, showed how simply applying rigorous quality control methods involving statistics and empowering every employee to that end achieves it. He wasn't listened to by the US companies but the Japanese saw the wisdom of Deming's ways and gladly adopted his techniques. Today, any manufacturer on the planet that is not using Deming's ideas will not be able to compete. When asked if a 99% quality success rate was acceptable, the Japanese manufacturer will respond: "To which one customer out of every 100 should we deliver a defective product?".
@surferdude7013
18 сағат бұрын
I suppose these days it's easy to find comments, good or bad about all makes and models. Like all social media comments care has to be exercised when digesting and some self research carried out if possible. "boring Japanese" could mean you don't have the fun of refixing the bits that have fallen off or spending an entertaining half hour to get it started. It depends on why you have a bike. For me, starting late (5 years ago at the age of 67) I wanted the riding not the tinkering about . I have a VSTROM 650. Without doing intentional searches I kept coming across comments saying it would start first time and go on for ever. Good enough for me. I just want to ride.
@johnharvey5338
23 сағат бұрын
I bought a Voge 300 a year ago, I’m 5’10” and as the seat is so narrow and the bike so light, I have done about 3000 miles in a year, about 70% off road and on green lanes, height has not need an issue once I got used to it, remember the Voge Gomes with crash bars, a rack and hand guards, which are all extras on the Honda, get Voge to lend you one and go green laning on it
@DanTube2010
17 сағат бұрын
The seat height can be misleading because of course the bike will squat down lower with a rider on it.
@horatio8764
20 сағат бұрын
We bought three Royal Enfield motorcycles in one hit here in Australia, worst experience I've ever had . Never supplied everything we paid for in the deal , warranty issues were fixed by myself as they wouldn't even contact me back. Eventually sold them all. Bike , manufacturer at fault? Dealer? I'd say mainly the dealer , just don't care once they have sold the bike . Which then gives the bike brand a bad name. Also I knew a guy who sold his Guzzi in disgust as it had a slight oil leak out of warranty($8 in parts and $80 labour) , now hates Guzzis , 43,000 klms . He bought another BMW which has had a myriad of problems some big but mostly small , but he loves his BMW why? Because the dealer fixed them promptly! A lesson for all I believe
@darylclifford
16 сағат бұрын
Can i ask which Guzzi (and BMW) dealer. I’ve been considering going down the BMW path. I’ve had a 996cc Ducati Sports Tourer since new - had one problem which i had to get threatening (with Frasers) to get warranty !!
@robvanduren761
15 сағат бұрын
I had a LDV van and i agree that the dealer is your main experience. Bad dealers end up wrecking the brand in the whole country.
@splodge5714
6 сағат бұрын
Lesson here is don't buy a BMW. Too many problems, too much time spent at the dealers.😂
@horatio8764
5 сағат бұрын
@@splodge5714 That is why they have nice coffee machines
@mrcintheuk4641
4 сағат бұрын
Yes, it always amazes me that if it breaks in warranty and is fixed for free then owners think the bike is reliable. 🤯
@notsohairybiker
18 сағат бұрын
Moto Guzzi, they sound like they run their factory just like British Leyland did in the 80's, anything built on a Friday?, no chance...
@Richard-pe4cx
20 сағат бұрын
seen more BSA 's at the dealers than on the road ,i have a BSA an A10 road rocket !
@ianhalliwell8604
20 сағат бұрын
I had a BSA Road Rocket back in the eighties and that's why I went for the GoldStar. Apart from a few niggles I've had nothing wrong with mine, it's BSAs attitude in discounting it massively making second hand values drop like a stone. That's what narks me
@splodge5714
6 сағат бұрын
Why would you want to sell a bike just because its been discounted? If you like the bike enjoy and ride it.😊
@DuffersMcDuff
2 сағат бұрын
Hi Freddy, I have ridden the Voge and the seat height isn't an issue. Like the CRF 300 the sag is huge and the seat very narrow. I have a 30inch inseam and am comfortable on the Voge and the CRF. Seat height isn't the whole story. Seat width and sag play a massive part in how it feels. I rode the Voge off-road at the ABR Festival and I did an adventure day on Exmoor on the CRF 300 with Dave Thorpe Honda... A full day of off-road training. It was brilliant fun.. I am 54 and wasn't the oldest their by far!! BTW I could get both feet down! Enjoy your content. Thanks for your work.,
@steve00alt70
8 сағат бұрын
What a suprise I was learning German, listened to interviews podcasts in German before this and then you mentioned Germany.
@albundy643
19 сағат бұрын
Freddie, there is a japanese bike that has lots of character, its the Kawasaki w800, that was apparently based on a British bike ( BSA ). Unfortunately you will never satisfy everbody, some will say to vibey, some will say to expensive or not enough horse power. The bike has enough power for most riders, and because of low sales, the later models can be bought for huge discounts if you are lucky enough to find one pre registered.
@jimstenlund6017
17 сағат бұрын
Based on the old Kawasaki from like 55 years ago.
@dave8204
17 сағат бұрын
@@jimstenlund6017 Based on a Meguro ,which was a BSA copy.
@jimstenlund6017
16 сағат бұрын
@@dave8204 Not a copy, they made considerable improvements and changes.
@ozoutdorz2584
12 сағат бұрын
Freddie, same here in Australia, very hard to get a sale for any decent price.. any brand..
@biker_dale
23 сағат бұрын
I'm glad I didn't upgrade my 750 Guzzi to the 850 😂 I have adapted mine quite a bit and removed a lot of unwanted pipes and sensors to do with clean air, to cut down on things that can go wrong. Still love it to bits. Guess mine was a Tuesday bike 😆😆
@fredatlas4396
6 сағат бұрын
How does it pass the mot emmisions test
@biker_dale
6 сағат бұрын
what emissions test, I've never had a bike tested for emissions
@YorkshireSteve907
19 сағат бұрын
Hi Freddie. These bikes aren’t proved. You can’t put just the name to a bike for it to be accepted. To me theses are just a Chinese bike with a heritage name. Not good enough what do the buyer of these bikes expect
@MotoTingle
22 сағат бұрын
I have a BSA Gold Star 650 and picked it up for £2,200 2023 with 800 miles on the clock. It lasted 2.5 days before major electrical failure due to loom stretch, took me five weeks to get it into a BSA dealer. I have been documenting my ownership experience and it’s the worst I’ve ever had. Freddy, I’ve bought £750 motorcycles and had lots of miles of fun. When I contacted Lukas Distribution (the UK distributor) they offered… to update the ownership details on their system. No other help or support was offered. My feelings are there’s good Gold Stars and bad Gold Stars, but even BSA can not trace which shift at their Jawa factory made the bikes, so they can’t trace back which shift crew is building them badly. I’ve heard later this year they are implementing a barcode system for parts. But I can’t see this helping the Quality Control
@Sankara561
22 сағат бұрын
Sheesh was going to say how can it be a bad deal for £2200, but yeah sounds like it's total junk
@googlecontrolled
21 сағат бұрын
I wouldn't think warranties were transferable anyway. Most manufacturers are first owner warranties. I have watched your video and you know how to mend it so treat it like an old brittish bike that it is imitating and mend it,ride it,enjoy it.
@johnwood4448
20 сағат бұрын
@@googlecontrolled Honda and Suzuki warranties are both transferable.
@googlecontrolled
20 сағат бұрын
@@johnwood4448 But he didn't pay Jap bike prices but moans. A lot of cars warranties are only first owner or dealer approved used to keep a warranty. He is second owner with a wiring loom issue, he has a big workshop and could get the loom off and mend the broken wire or worst case get a new copy one made by numerous places then enjoy his new cheap bike. Instead he moans about it on the Internet to everyone. Cheap bikes will have issues, if someone wants a top notch warranty then they should be prepared to pay top notch prices. To me, cheap bike then I'm prepared to get my spanners out and will enjoy that part of ownership as I have always done.
@johnflavin1602
19 сағат бұрын
That seems like totally unacceptable quality control compared to the Japanese Big Four.
@iggyzorro2406
19 сағат бұрын
Freddie - regarding bike depreciation (or lack thereof) remember the number 13. I began riding in 1987 - a new leftover 1984 Yamaha Riva 180 scooter. I paid $1,300 american. 13 years later in 2000 I decided to go for a motorcycle and got a new Suzuki GZ250. I traded in the Riva scooter for $1300. So I got the use and pleasure of the scooter for 13 years and it cost me $50.- not bad depreciation at all.
@m.f.m.67
23 сағат бұрын
I must admit, as a Moto Guzzi owner, I would hesitate to recommend one as an only bike. Especially if it is one's only form of transport. That's what Hondas are for! 😉 If you aren't mechanically inclined and enjoy doing the work yourself, look elsewhere. Still, I enjoy riding my Griso on nice weekends. I have no idea where my nearest Moto Guzzi dealer is even located!
@speedfinder1
22 сағат бұрын
I would have to agree with you 100% there. My Moto Guzzi has been faultless, my only need for parts relates to my own fault of dropping it into a ditch! 🤭🤭.
@daigriffiths399
2 сағат бұрын
Depends on how much you're willing to keep on top of the maintenance. I bought a 1980 V1000G5 in 1984 with 23 and a bit thousand miles on the clock and ran it to 205,000 miles before in 2005 some bstrd decided they needed it more than I did and then crashed and torched it. It was my daily transport (50 miles) plus weekend runs, BUT I was religious with the oil and filter changes and general maintenance. I also put 130,000+ miles on a 1981 SP1000 before restoring and selling it. The new owner is closing in on 160,000 miles now. I also have a couple of other big Tontis including a 1980 850-T3 California which I've had since 1991 and has just had a much deserved ground-up restoration.
@kiwibikerpaul141
20 сағат бұрын
I recently sold my 2022 BMW R1250GS in mint condition privately here in New Zealand for health reasons. I plan to buy a smaller bike. No dealer would trade my bike, at any price, and dealers are going bust here as well. My bike was still under warranty, so no risk to the dealer other than resale risk.
@jesterm7597
19 сағат бұрын
If they won’t take the best selling big bike (in Europe anyway) in p/x then what would they take!! If you were looking for cash on top then maybe that’s the reason. Cash is tight all over unfortunately 😢
@davydavidson2421
23 сағат бұрын
Freddie another motorcycle dealership has went into Admin, Saltire Edinburgh you once went there to pick up an Enfield for your trip in Scotland, so many going under just now it's a worry.
@davebarclay4429
22 сағат бұрын
A new Scottish RE franchise has just opened at Revolutions in Perth. They are primarily car dealers (Morgan of all makes!) although they also have Norton and CCM franchises. It makes me wonder if hybrid car/bike dealers might be the way forward.
@chrislaunders8283
22 сағат бұрын
BSA Gold Stars are available for under £5k new now.
@ianhalliwell8604
20 сағат бұрын
Exactly and I was daft enough to pay £6800 + £300 otr that's why second hand prices are so low. THANKS A LOT BSA.
@splodge5714
7 сағат бұрын
£1500 off new Royal Enfield Interceptors. Bargains but I still wouldn't buy one. 😊
@cedhome7945
23 сағат бұрын
I was in the bike trade and I worked for the main importer of Piaggio products, and you could not make the story's up about the monkey business that went on .if you opened a box of painted parts out of say 10 mudguards 3 -5 would be acceptable several would be scratched, dented, finger marks or completely the wrong colour ! The answer from Piaggio was they employed people from the same family so you could not tell them off or half the factory might walk out ! This got so bad they would just send more parts to cover the losses. Things went sideways when the boss sent his daughter (who spoke Italian) to liaise with the factory but within 5 months she got pregnant by a penny less Romain playboy .as for the bsa never be the first to buy a new model wait a year to see if they have problems with them but for people wanting a bargain keep spreading bad news as it will bring the second hand price down.😄
@funkygrib1
20 сағат бұрын
@cedhome7945 "never be the first to buy a new model wait a year" OMG you sound just like my DaD ! ! Along with "Never modify a bike ? Buy a bigger 1, theres no substitute for cubic capacity" Oh and "A woman is a minutes thrill, A motorcycle is a thrill a minute" God rest his soul, thanks for the reminder ;-) O and the best take down "I have done more miles on my ass than you have done on a motorcycle" 🙂
@freeride6073
19 сағат бұрын
@@funkygrib1😊
@splodge5714
7 сағат бұрын
Piaggio the worst thing about Moto Guzzi. Be warned.😂
@sergentcolon1
9 сағат бұрын
Freddie the Vogue 300 is like the Honda CRF300 Rally, it has very soft suspension and when you sit on the bike it compresses 2-3 inches so you don’t need to be 6’ 4”. I owned a CRF250l and I’m 5’ 8” with a 29” inside leg and I was able to ride it very easily. The sub 150kg weight also helps. I had to laugh when you made the comment about the Yamaha Diversion being borderline ridiculously heavy at 239kg after you have just ridden the 300kg Indian and previously the gargantuan BMW R18 at 345kg. Both may be low seat heights but try manhandling them around on a slope or gravel drive and you’ll realise how ridiculously heavy they actually are.
@robertmulhall1634
23 сағат бұрын
Good old Divi 900,the best bike I've owned.susprising amount of grunt,ex comfort.if someone wants a cheap long haul tool ,this is the one.
@fabianmckenna8197
17 сағат бұрын
Wow, what's wrong with Moto Guzzi......... I couriered for years on Honda CX500's, CX500B's, CX500 Eurosports and was never disappointed. This was a solid shaft drive, watercooled bike from the 80's so what on Earth.
@dave8204
17 сағат бұрын
That first used Diversion you showed was a 600....listed by the seller as a 650!! No less than 3 very good looking 900 Diversions for sale local to me, shows how well they were made that there are still so many nice bikes of that age still around. 600 was a very nice bike and the best-selling bike in Europe for many years until Suzuki brought out the Bandit.
@adamlanglois563
4 сағат бұрын
New stuff is nice and all, but old proven models are what I like. My goldwing has 300k kilometers and a full service history. Tires, pads, fluids and filters are all she's needed in 300k. Its been put to bed and woken up over 25 Canadian winters and the carbs have never had to come apart. That is quality.
@GarryShirreffs-cs2gb
19 сағат бұрын
Triumph dealer told me they don’t take RE in part exchange, i wanted to trade my 350 classic I was gutted lovely T100 that I wanted stayed in the show room, went and got a RE interceptor love it 🎉❤
@MH-xd2nd
22 сағат бұрын
Freddie any comments on the dealers closing down? Completely Motorbikes (apparently 21 stores across the UK), P&H sold to Superbike Factory, Saltire, SMC, Streetbike, Harley Manchester and Chester and Lind Harley Reading and Watford, JW Groombridge, Bahnstormer BMW Maidenhead and BMW Cardiff just over the last few months. I gather that forecourt debt for big dealers is around £1-1.5M and servicing that debt with poorer sales this year must be starting to bite. Or is it just a natural levelling because there were too many bike shops to support the market?
@andym5588
20 сағат бұрын
There are either too many motorcycle dealers or too few riders. The reality is that fewer people ride a bike in this country. Those that do, do so for pleasure, not getting to work. Too many of us are now browsing the mobility scooter brochures as the last stop before choosing the veneer on our coffin :(
@charley998
19 сағат бұрын
@@andym5588l
@sergentcolon1
9 сағат бұрын
Bike sales haven’t been good this past year, a poor riding season weather wise on top of fewer people having money to spend and an increasingly older average rider age don’t help. As older riders give up riding there aren’t enough younger ones coming through to replace them. Due in part to the difficulty in obtaining a motorcycle licence compared to a car licence, the cost of insurance for younger riders and the fact that an increasing proportion of younger people are choosing not to own a motor vehicle of any kind. The increase in the price of new bikes is outstripping pay increases making them more expensive in real terms and the prices dealers are asking for secondhand bikes. I’ve seen 3-4 year old bikes at only £500-£1000 less than the price of a new one that comes with a warranty, lower rate finance and 3 years before an mot is due.
@clive4741
21 сағат бұрын
I am a classic bike/ car enthusiast ! Your 'hobby' car/bike with 'character' ie unreliable, is a none Japanese 'quirky' bike. And, your totally reliable, always there for you, commuting, long distance touring bike, that always starts on the button,. and gets you home, is the Japanese bike ( or maybe new eastern bikes ??? ). They are two different categories of bike! You choose which you want, and if you can afford both, get them, if not, choose which you want !
@maskedavenger2578
21 сағат бұрын
If people want a reliable bike , their best bet is to get one with a Japanese badge on it, even if its made in China or other counties on behalf of a Japanese motorcycle company . I like singles & I like the new BSA gold star 650 , but it seems it’s pot luck if you get one with no issues . No use having a bike with character ,if it’s an unreliable crock of sh💩t , & spends more time being fixed or waiting for parts than riding it .
@triumphthunderbird1
Сағат бұрын
Latest incarnation of BSA have a long way to go to get to the standard of say Triumph. Royal Enfield quality has improved significantly in recent years so hopefully BSA will get there too. Same goes for Norton, time will tell. Never owned a Guzzi, too small for me. Done the factory tour, which is great!
@Paul-kp1tu
18 сағат бұрын
Freddie , there is certainly something going on with BSA. I’ve written to them several times since the Gold star’s release in the UK asking if and when it might come to Australia. It’s a formula that might sell well here, big distances, the engine is well known (BMWs) , a lot of old blokes in motorcycling etc., but never a response, nothing. I’ve written to the parent company who sell utes and suvs here, no replies. So if that’s their effort to potential buyers in a reasonably sized market then they have some work to do. These nuances are subtle and perhaps this element is filtering through to other potential buyers, bikes are about how they make you feel, an this makes people feel uneasy, thus dealers are wary, buyers are confused and along with a reduction in prices at retail and resale, potential customers see a dysfunctional network and they sense a significant risk. So I won’t be buying one, even if they do eventually bother coming to market here. What a shame it does look good and I wanted one, but alas, it’s not to be. As for Guzzis, I just love em’, I fell in love back in 1972 when the lime and red 750 sports was the most expensive bike you could buy, lusted over an ex us police V850 tourer and I ended up with a 2015 V7 ii, it was just lovely to ride at speed but it was very poor in its fuelling , hunting and carrying on in town ( an early effort to meet euro 4 regs), I could never get it right. I was reliable and well made, we don’t have salted roads here, and I just loved the look, red with white , just beautiful. Ultimately I tired of the fuelling issues and the total lack of dealer network or factory / distributor support ( none) the nearest dealer was in Sydney (300 klm away) which meant that I was on my own. This is the major bane in Australia, our distances and population make for pretty poor support for most things. This did contribute to a sense of anxiety that eats at you. So regrettably I sold it and bought a Honda for trouble free and worry free trips. And that has proved to be true. A personal experience , yet Guzzis have a very good reputation here with a long history in Aus, GP racers and endurance travel, and that certain Italian exotic magic, but it’s not due to any factory or dealer support , just people’s passions. Would I buy another Guzzi, yes, but perhaps an old one where my expectations are not so high, my finances improve and if I can access the specialist support network in the Classic community. I still lust after certain models.
@petelyden8193
17 сағат бұрын
The engine is a Rotax owned by Bombardier, although Rotax do build engines for BMW to BMW designs. BMW do not build Rotax engines.
@splodge5714
7 сағат бұрын
I've been riding bikes for 50 years. Anyone who would give up riding and buy a car of any kind isnt a true motorcyclist.😂
@johnhawden4118
8 сағат бұрын
I really enjoy these videos (that ages me :-) ). Air cooled every time for me, A bike to me has got to look cool, be reliable and put a smile on my face even if its standing still in the shed. Over the years Ive toured Europe loads of times, done many major rallies and, until retirement, my bike was the sole means of transport for 25 years. In my garage, these are the keepers. BMW Adventure 2002, Victory Kingpin Tour 2008, 1959 Panther, 1971 T120v Bonneville (ridden every day still.and a Norton I500 race on the beach at Bridlngton. All air cooled, all reliable and all make me LOL when riding. Have a good un Freddie. That BSA ...bloody awful.
@77archibald
22 сағат бұрын
BSA problems! The trouble with your type of content Freddie, along with KZitem, podcasts, and the Internet in general, is the ease with which negativity about motorcycle brands can be spread, whether with an element of truth or baseless. I had a Ducati Multistrada - various doom merchants said it would spend more time in the dealers being repaired than on the road. The reality was 32,000 trouble free miles. I also had a Ducati Scrambler - 10,000 trouble free miles. Also a Moto Guzzi V85 - 12,000 trouble free miles. I recently put a deposit on a new BSA Goldstar. No bike has ever put such a smile on my face as this did on the test ride. The issue's people have had with these bikes have not been major and have been rectified. Yes, its not perfect, but its built to a price. Yes, you get what you pay for. But i would argue that none of the bikes i have mentioned are inherently bad. There will always be a bad bike now and then from any manufacturer. I've had many bikes over many years and i repeat that none have put such a smile on my face as the BSA. I pick my new Gold Star up later this week and intend to thoroughly enjoy my bike and totally ignore the doom and gloom that spurts out of the Internet.
@greggferns3278
22 сағат бұрын
Your story is fair enough,but when dealers don't want to know ,there has to be more to the Goldie debacle.
@allanhughes7859
22 сағат бұрын
I think in Freddie's case you are off target. He is one that at least tries to give a balanced review and does not seem to suck up to the makers SO AN UNFAIR COMMENT I FEEL !!
@MH-xd2nd
22 сағат бұрын
Do report back when it breaks down 😂
@barrydaly7174
22 сағат бұрын
I hope you have your fingers crossed.... Tempting fate and what not. You are correct though, bad news and reviews are what we remember longest. I would say however, in the defence of KZitemrs who flag problems, they are merely reflecting others input, and it is useful information to make valued judgement decision. It also alerts influential media such as MCN that then forces manufacturers to take notice, see KTM, BMW et al for recalls etc. Good luck with the BSA but up until now I personally have only seen and heard good things.
@77archibald
20 сағат бұрын
In reply to the replies - I'm not having a go at Freddie as such, I like most of his videos. It's more the Internet in general and more so the readiness of people to slag off things they personally don't like or agree with. Motorcycle brands being a prime example. As far as BSA goes, if you don't like them or are wary of them, then don't buy one. Alternatively, if like me you think they are a cracking bike for the money....give one a go!
@andybeahan2189
23 сағат бұрын
I was tempted by the BSA goldstar as my first bike, but after seeing it at motorcycle live and comparing it to RE classic 350 and interceptor 650 I went for a classic 350 and so glad I did! The standard of the BSA finish didn't fill me with promise and neither did their website or social media posts. They look great (from a distance) but there are several red flags for me
@lancelongfield5550
23 сағат бұрын
got a re meteor 350 love it, plus £2500 in my pocket. people are just buying the badge
@warrenr4
21 сағат бұрын
@@lancelongfield5550 And it’s an off the shelf fake badge. One born every minute !! 🤣
@AliG-iq4gd
6 сағат бұрын
Informing your insurer of modifications to your bike is often avoided as "Those crooks will increase the premium!" But - if you have a crash, where your modification is either the cause, or that the underwriter would have not offered cover had they known..............Then if there is a substantial 3rd party claim (could be from your injured pillion even) - the Underwriters will pay out, BUT - they will pursue you for that money. Your house, savings - the lot ! Moral - don't jeapordise your life for the sake of a modification.
@TringmotionCoUk
21 сағат бұрын
Well it's well documented in India that Jawa and Yezdi are suffering from below par build quality, so not a shock about BSA
@JC-he7yk
21 сағат бұрын
What i want to know is why 18mths after buying something you need to replace it. Take the hit.
@ianhalliwell8604
20 сағат бұрын
The answer to that is because I've been taken for a ride by BSA they overpriced it then massively cut the price to unload stock. I've recently been told BSA are offering free health checks to put the faults right but have I received such information from BSA, have i buggery.
@JC-he7yk
20 сағат бұрын
I'm not sure i fully understand. You tried to trade it in or move it on because it was so fault ridden?
@ianhalliwell8604
20 сағат бұрын
Again my bike isn't fault ridden in the slightest I'm pissed off because I paid 7 grand and now it's value has fallen through the floor. I'm now fed up with the bikenim fed up with BSA as was the distributor here in Lancashire who stopped selling them because he was messed about by BSA.
@docastrov9013
17 сағат бұрын
@@ianhalliwell8604 You have a usable bike. Keep it. Use it.
@markpavlowski7223
23 сағат бұрын
Regretfully, I said at the very beginning...one-trick pony for a very limited market and support from Mahindra would be non-existent... I gave a figure of two years before 'vanishing'...seems I was not far off...
@teddd10
17 сағат бұрын
I'm often at Millennium...it's a dealership with high price tags...never bought a bike from there BUT the cafe upstairs does some great grub though 😋
@nickryan1522
9 сағат бұрын
Also couldn’t sell my April 2022 Triumph Tiger Sport 660 with 5,000kms for any more than €6K. Was going to trade it for a new Bonneville T100, but dealer wanted another €7K on top… bought an almost brand new Royal Enfield Interceptor instead for €1K less overall and kept my Triumph.
@beebeer
7 сағат бұрын
I have an FJR1300 which I bought as ex demo in 2006. I'm always looking at replacing it but as I'm 74 and they are asking silly prices for new bikes, I can't see the point! I've never had an issue with bike and have been as far as Armenia on it.
@andrejspornieks
20 сағат бұрын
Simple to answer, the difference between BSA and RE at 650cc is that I would certainly tend to choose a twin engine. This is like it's very classic looking, so one could try to bring it back same as good looking. Two ingnition sparks and bigger diameter seems to make the lower exhaust note but typically, well, one stroke is for smaller and more affordable vehicles.
@warrenr4
21 сағат бұрын
I can see BSA gone within 12 months.
@CHuzz7777
23 сағат бұрын
I’m not really interested in hearing from people who’ve had no problems with their Guzzi. All bikes can have problems, the real issue is whether these problems are swiftly addressed under warranty. It seems Moto Guzzi are more likely to give you a classic Italian shrug of the shoulders than sort your issues out.
@speedfinder1
21 сағат бұрын
I could mention? I live in a place with no Moto Guzzi dealer. Simple maintenance on mine seems to be keeping it healthy and a reasonable degree of patience (10 Days delivery time) seem to be all that is required for spare parts. BTW, the spares directly from Italy are also competitively priced so I can't say I have anything to complain about. I have no experience of any warranty issues but I paid a deposit on a credit card so is it goes wrong, I'll claim on my cards insurance.......
@CHuzz7777
21 сағат бұрын
@@speedfinder1 Enjoy it, they’re lovely bikes. My view is based on people’s experiences including my dad who needed to make a warranty claim on the clutch on a new bike he’d put less than a thousand miles on. The dealer didn’t want to know and neither did Piaggio. On one peek around the back of the dealers he saw nearly new bikes with their engines apart left out in the rain. Much like the guy in Freddie’s story he traded it in for a Suzuki.
@KidCurry666
23 сағат бұрын
BSA's are getting a reputation for unreliability apparently, shame as a good looking steed. On a more positive note, that story of the Yamaha Diversion brilliant, just goes to show you can see the world for a relative small amount of cash. Cheers for your vids both 👍👍
@markjones_007
21 сағат бұрын
All new bike launches have their issues. The vast majority of BSA owners love their bikes
@markiesmith4537
3 сағат бұрын
The BSA Gold Star selling problem reminds me of the RE Continental GT500 problem some 10 years ago, People bought them because they liked the Cafe Racer styling (which was very fashionable at the time) as well as the "historic" name and it looked very good with deep gleaming paintwork.... Then they rode them and found they were slow, wheezy , ran out of puff quickly, vibrated like a tractor and were super uncomfortable...Result? Ebay was full of RE Continental GT500s with a few hundred miles on the clock - and dealers wouldn't touch them. So with the BSA it isn't "Because it isn't a BSA and it isn't a Gold Star"....They knew both those things when they signed the cheque it's more likely that they are slow and disappointing to ride - especially if the buyer previously owned a twin, triple or multi.
@kevindarkstar
13 сағат бұрын
20:55 it shakes, yeah and things drop off 😂 I know a guy who bought one and he only had it a few months and it lost an exhaust stud, dropped the number plate and snapped the exhaust bracket, he had enough of checking it every time he rode it, so he swapped it for something more reliable 🤷🏻♂️
@breakersteve
20 сағат бұрын
I’ve mentioned my bike before but if you want character in a Japanese motorbike, ride the 1700cc Yamaha MT-01! 😎 I’ve owned mine since new in 2005 and I’d never sell it!
@nigelhielo9713
Сағат бұрын
The problem is that all the dealers are interested in is shifting new bikes. They are not interested in second hand bikes at all, their after sales service in a lot of cases is appalling. If you get a new bike I would suggest getting the one you really want, keeping until it is won out. Get an extended warranty from the dealer when you get it, then if there are problems they have to fix it. Once that happens and people hang onto their bikes you will see a change in dealer attitudes to customers. When the dealers can't shift the new bikes so easily they may then realise that customer service is something they all need to invest in.
@leehenty3777
16 минут бұрын
The other underrated bike is the TDM900, ceramic lined bores it lasts well over 100k. I’ve has mine 22 years now, other than servicing it’s needed nothing. New is not always improved
@anchinkan
9 сағат бұрын
Can´t get my head around this "hit & miss" issue with Moto Guzzi! What about QC these days? And then some people say "boring Japanese bikes. No character...". I´d rather have no issues, spend the money on food, drinks, gasoline, beautiful trips and prime time with friends instead of riding one of these "Character bikes".
@spearmintvole9522
19 сағат бұрын
It’s a funny old world. Every Honda I’ve ever had has included either build quality or design issues. The Hondas I’ve had and seen corrode faster than any other make. Cb1300 all the lacquer falls off in 12 months. Firestorm? Front end will try and kill you the only positive is the cam chain tensioner will fail and prevent you riding it. Hornet? Rusts away like a time lapse photos of a rotting apple. Cb500? Corrosion to the point of swing arm failure assuming the rest of it didn’t just fall apart from vibration. I was given a cheap Honda moped that I used for ages that seemed to have been the recipient of all the legendary Honda quality I’d heard so much about. To be fair they did keep starting and kinda running. Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki - ZXRs, XJs, XJRs, Fazers, GSXs never a real fault. No real corrosion unless you count a seat base on an ancient Suzuki GSXR Aprilla? I tried twice, ok when new. Moto Guzzi V7 Classic from back in 2009 and now a newer Special. No problems in almost 34,000 miles. The received wisdom was always just BS fed to us by bike “journalists” who heaped praise on tiny incremental improvements and never had a test machine long enough to have it break.
@retromechanicalengineer
17 сағат бұрын
I've had three Divvies, you just cant beat them for value.
@bangkokbullmoto
4 сағат бұрын
One of the problems with UK is that when you go to trade a bike the money they offer - even if it is something reliable and in demand - is so low that it is not worth doing the deal, it clogs the whole system up and affects sales of new bikes. Dealer margin on a used bike they sell for say £6000 would usually be £1500 (less service costs etc and VAT) but there is some negotiation room if you trading in for a nearly new bike that they have a good margin on, especially if the bike they are buying is the same make as new bikes they sell (so they know the model well). My last trade-in they spent thirty minutes going over the bike and test rode it just to make sure of it but did give me £800-900 more than the local dealers traded against a year old bike that had done 900 miles and was down from £9000 new to £7000 - so I guess the previous owner got £5500 for it. Did involve a 150 mile round trip but the sun was out so all good fun! Impossible to sell the old bike on the private used market for that kind of money - I tried for about six months, no-one where I live has the cash to hand.
@cuoredivita
23 минут бұрын
What do you think of the Roam electric bikes in Africa? What do you audience think of a 15 year old vfr800 6th gen? Are they a good investment. Not only to ride buy to keep their value? I used to own a RXS 100 yamaha in the 80s one of these now can cost over 1000 pounds! I have been out of biking for over 30 years and am looking at a VFR secondhand. Would need to use on motorway. What do you all suggest?
@frankcourtney6413
3 сағат бұрын
Not that they are comparable in any meaningful way, but 239Kg for a Diversion is 27Kg heavier than a RE Conti GT 650 twin. For that 27Kg you get two extra cylinders, 43 more hp, a proper fairing / screen, and shaft final drive. It's a solid, reliable touring package. As far as weight goes, better to compare it to contemporaries like a ST1100 at 299Kg or a GT1000 Kwaka at 290Kg. The Diversion 600s and 900s were low cost/high volume bikes at the time, very much 'parts bin specials' and didn't have anything fancy in terms of go-fast bits. What they did have was easy manners, enough power to get the job done and reliability. Parts availability can be a challenge though - as it is with any 20+ year old bike.
@simonalcock2521
4 сағат бұрын
Tried to trade in my immaculate triumph 900 scrambler, no one wanted it, finally bought a cf moto 800mt sport without a trade in from Appleyards, they said they had 10,000 second hand bikes in stock in their group and just couldn't take anymore as they cant sell them, thats all manufacturers!
@Phiyedough
23 сағат бұрын
Interesting that you mentioned the Diversion as I have been tinkering with one over the last few days. This is a bike I was storing for someone in Hungary for about the last 10 years. I have not heard from the owner in all that time so I might as well do something with it myself. It does not say an engine size anywhere on the bike but looking up the registration number it is an XJ4 400cc. I think it must have been imported used from Japan.
@breakersteve
20 сағат бұрын
On the BSA topic, I think the answer may be in the bikes for sale? None of the owners seem to have owned the bikes for long before trading them? … Why?…
@gwilliamwallace
15 сағат бұрын
You've had your BSA for 18 months and put 600 miles on it? Maybe that should tell you something about the bike. If you don't want to ride it maybe nobody else does either.
@monkeyzx9
18 сағат бұрын
I’m sorry, but the people saying Japanese bikes are boring are just plain wrong. Maybe ask a TT rider how boring their Japanese super bikes are…I have a Honda 954 FireBlade, a Kawasaki ZX9r C2 and a 2011 Honda CB1000r. If reliability is boring then I’m boring. Although while I’m on my Blade at Mallory park accelerating out of Gerards with the back wheel sliding the last emotion I am feeling is boredom. People have to say that they love “the character” of an unreliable bike so they can justify how they’ve wasted their money on a bucket of turd. My 77 year old Dad says “they don’t make them like they used to……..thank goodness” as he happily travels on his VFR800 and CBR600f sport. Motorcycles inherently are not boring, any bike can be fun and exciting. How comes when a Chinese bike breaks down it’s called cheap rubbish, but when an Italian or American bike breaks down it’s called “character”? Makes me laugh.
@GDM22
4 сағат бұрын
When people are making these comments they are talking about the current range of bikes. Not sure how your 15 year old bikes are relevant to this argument.
@monkeyzx9
4 сағат бұрын
@@GDM22 so a 215bhp new Japanese bike is boring compared to a 60bhp Harley is it? Also, the IOMTT is still happening ya know.
@GDM22
2 сағат бұрын
@@monkeyzx9 Only have to watch MotoGP to see where the Japanese bikes are relative to the Europeans in more recent times. When people say boring and I would prefer to say innovative it is a relative comment, not an absolute one.
@monkeyzx9
2 сағат бұрын
@@GDM22 so my comment stands then
@GDM22
2 сағат бұрын
@@monkeyzx9 If you think so.
@davidcoleman4941
18 сағат бұрын
I've owned 3 Moto Guzzi's a Norge 1200, Belargio 960 and a Stone V7. All had issues its only a matter of time before they self-destruct. I lost Trust in Guzzi I would sit at home and just look at them they were Beautiful but I couldn't ride them because I couldn't Trust them.
@chriskay116
20 сағат бұрын
Bought my Goldstar in August. I've ridden 2400 miles and absolutely love it.
@geraldscott4302
15 сағат бұрын
And just what do you have to compare it to?
@chriskay116
9 сағат бұрын
It compares very favourably to all the brands I have owned and ridden over the last 40 years: Honda, BMW, Yamaha, Suzuki, Guzzi, Triumph, Ducati and Royal Enfield. It is also technically equal to all the other modern machines in my garage at the moment. I also find it to be one of the most "enjoyable" bikes to ride available today, unhampered by intrusive Tech. If the Gold Star had been released by any of the mainstream brands I think it may have been received and rated differently by sceptics.
@dancooper3806
18 сағат бұрын
Dealers are Not Accepting BSA Gold Stars because they have trouble selling them. Reliability is an issue, the bike is only worth what someone will pay.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST
19 сағат бұрын
There is no problem about dealers not excepting BSAs Gold star because they are bad bikes, it's the fact that they only have one model in the range and the dealers have too much stock that they own on the shop floor with nothing selling.Also the falling of certain motor Cycle chains and multiple dealers closing because of it, the honest dealers want to sell through what they already have. Also as this model went up against the RE interceptor it's the same customer and The dealers are offering even less for them. Keep the BSA Gold star, it's the only proper true modern retro in my opinion. It's a future design classic. Awesome bike new for £4999.99 😮👍👌
@rolandhamer7507
12 сағат бұрын
No, Royal Enfield never owned the Indian Motorcycle brand, and Indian motorcycles were never made in England under Royal Enfield’s ownership. However, there was a brief association between Indian and Royal Enfield in the 1950s. After World War II, Indian faced financial difficulties and stopped production of its own motorcycles for a time. To keep the brand alive in the U.S. market, Indian began importing and rebadging motorcycles from other manufacturers, including Royal Enfield. From around 1955 to 1960, Indian imported Royal Enfield models and sold them under the Indian name in the U.S. These motorcycles were made in England by Royal Enfield, but they were rebranded with Indian badges and given new names like Indian Chief and Indian Patrol Car. This partnership was not a case of ownership, but rather a business arrangement to supply Indian-branded motorcycles to the American market during a challenging period for the company. The Indian brand continued to face financial troubles and eventually ceased operations in 1953. It wasn’t until 2011, when Polaris Industries acquired the rights to Indian Motorcycle, that the brand was revived successfully.
@m2menuiserie540
6 сағат бұрын
You have the temerity to provide an evidence-based, historical account. Someone's going to Sioux you.
@h2489-m2l
22 сағат бұрын
I wouldn't buy an Indian or Chinese bike because of the lack of interest on resale. Buy once cry once. I'd always prefer a second hand japanese or European bike.
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