Gosh I feel you, clones have completely killed my interest in reviews of new releases along with the way companies (often) handle negative feedback.
@superchroma
3 жыл бұрын
The ones I see in the comments largely seem to take criticism like champs. I guess you see a lot more of it though.
@briguy9915
3 жыл бұрын
Can you please give us an example of a company who can't take bad feedback? I'm just curious if you're going to say anet.
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
One of the parts of the channel I least enjoy but I feel I need to keep reviewing to to keep on top of what's out there.
@MakersMuse
3 жыл бұрын
@@briguy9915 Without giving any specifics it's usually when serious QC issues are found the answer is "we have already fixed this in more recent versions" as an excuse. We can only review what is provided and that's in my and TT's terms, but this tactic is then used to pressure for a video to be taken down or edited.
@stan110
3 жыл бұрын
yeah, I stoped looking at what new printer are coming soon, but almost most of them are just the same with another logo on it.
@nicholaswillcox
3 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Thank you for all of the videos you have done. I still reference your old material to learn new (to me) ideas and have implemented numerous features and upgrades you have mentioned. Thank you for all you've taught all of us. My "wants" for a printer: I'd love a "Mid to high range" printer that I don't have ANY of the woes I've had with the Ender 3 v2...the crappy single bearing fans, the moronic thermistor design, near necessity to upgrade to an all metal hotend, etc. So many times I hear from my friends that they would love to get into 3d printing, but there is such a steap learning curve (and they have seen all my failures so ...may have influenced that last bit). Core XY printers I think aare more stable and as you noted - easier to enclose....the speed-print videos are hilariously fun to watch. I'd love to see something like the delta printers, but where the bed goes down like the ender 5 or the rat rigs...this would give a lot more build capacity to the designs, but not sure how it would compare to core xy's on quality/speed, but may help push the design towards that nonlinear printing approach. Out of the box touch screen would be fun. DEFINITELY nuke the stupid ass SD card slots. Storage drive on the printer or connected in-line with the printer to store print-ready STL's is a must in my opinion. It still shocks me that I can't USB an external drive to my printer and just do the thing. I name all my files [nozzle size]_[material]_[file name] format so if I came up with a "magic profile" I'd love to just be able to swap in the right filament, clean the nozzle, and go. Auto-bed leveling. I will never buy another printer without it and I don't mean just a BLTOUCH to show what's off - full on leveling system. Safety on the electrical and temperature side would be nice even if it's just an external sensor that I could later setup a pi or arduino to for power shut off or something on my own would be totally fine. Definitely more power options on the board for fans, not just 1 or 2 voltages....then have to mess with buck converters. My biggest question on all 3d printing I've seen is why is the print pattern so illogical? It'll print one area, move to a completely different area, then come back to the first area to add a bit more on the same layer height, then move again...it's not a logical print order from my eyes. I think there is a LOT of room to improve slicing software. Here's hoping the next year will bring more break-throughs to 3d printing and less clone trash from China-silicone influencer entities.
@johnwood2387
3 жыл бұрын
A printer that *actually* works well out of the box. i made (in my opinion) the mistake of buying an ender 3 pro and getting overzealous. my first print must of been a miraculous fluke, because everything that came after was one failed or shody print after the other, and nothing i did help. part of this was me being a novice and listening to too many people telling me to upgrade upgrade upgrade, but the rest i can guarentee was the extreme difficulty i had working on the machine itself. i can't tell you how much my fingers hurt or my dystonia acted up, or the amount of times i cringed at a painful sound. all of these have led me to a non functional printer and no motivation or desire whatsoever to fix it
@fluiditynz
3 жыл бұрын
Those ferrules on cable ends are a waste of time unless you have spring leaf terminals. Quality rising clamp type terminals will fully open when unscrewed all the way. An already used spring leaf terminal will stay in the partially compressed shape until opened with a rod/small screw driver of some sort. For rising clamp all you need is to twist the wire end strands compactly, insert and tighten. The ferules are designed for use by those less experienced, to work with cheap terminals.
@notorious_b_o_z8535
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been scheming building a short printer for small part production that I could stack several of in a small space. If someone would make one I’d buy it in a heartbeat. Something where the bed doesn’t move back and fourth, a cube frame design and direct drive. Like 200x200x50 build volume or something. Add a belt to the bed and I’m set!
@goes2112
3 жыл бұрын
All are pretty good ideas. The first design is a no brainer. It's what 80% of first time users or hobbyists should get. The second is great for the tinkerers.
@frankfox6904
3 жыл бұрын
This is a good video, but you appear to be ignoring the answers to your questions. If the buyer wants reliability, there is Prusa and other higher cost systems (For me, I found the original CR-10S to be reliable except for the extruder and at the time of release it was loaded with features). If the buyer wants quiet, there is Prusa, Artillery, and probably others (I don't review printers so I can only speak to these two). If you want extra built in features, there was the CR-6 SE with the fancy strain gage for bed leveling that was built into the system. For almost any feature, there is a printer or a DIY printer that is available (many DIY are now coming as kits with options). The failure of the clone is not that there isn't variety. The failure is the Ender-3, CR-10, and MK3 are all popular and that means people want to buy something similar. The success of the clone is that to complete, the next greatest thing needs something new that wasn't already done by someone else, or it has to be cheaper. The innovations mostly comes from the open source ideas are getting co-oped into a commercial design. Bad that the crowd source doesn't get credit, but good that innovation keeps going. This is a fast moving market, and you and other's like you on KZitem should be darn glad that all these companies are sending you their clone printers to review for free (there are thousands of 3D printer nerds that would kill to have what you are complaining about). It feeds your channel with review videos that us consumers are watching, and it keeps you up to date with some of the trends. Overall a pretty good deal for you.
@filanfyretracker
2 жыл бұрын
controlled lighting is a great idea really, Now I am not sure they need RGB and I say this as someone with RGB in their gaming computer. But more that since people can connect cameras to printers either for time lapse or remote monitoring. It would kinda make sense for the lighting to only come on when the camera was being used. Either for a remote checkup or just a time lapse photo.
@dubi01
3 жыл бұрын
brilliant video and much appreciated!
@briguy9915
3 жыл бұрын
Now let's watch as 3d printer manufactures ignore this video and continue churning out i3 style printers :(
@Pandonaut
3 жыл бұрын
It'd be nice if they used the dual z leadscrews at least
@Warump
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is the sad part of this industry. There have not been much of a meaningfull development coming from Creality, nor any other chinese FDM manufacturer in years. They just keep sucking out ideas and make them work cheaper, instead of contributing to the overall 3D printing ecosystem.
@Doping1234
3 жыл бұрын
Metal 3D printing at home is not really feasible. SLS is a no go anyway (dangerous powders ect) and methods using bound powder need sintering which adds A LOT of complexity.
@keithtwombley
3 жыл бұрын
as a computer security professional, I absolutely do not want manufacturers to build in external internet access to my burn-my-house-down machine.
@briguy9915
3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@ameritus9041
3 жыл бұрын
Hear, hear!
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
You'll notice I recommended Raspberry Pi/Octoprint ready rather than their own solution in my suggested machines.
@ernestgalvan9037
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeachingTech .. and I wish KZitemrs would remind folks to donate to software authors such as Octoprint. PLEASE, you can make a difference.
@kaiserwilhelmii.9076
3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@berkhanb
3 жыл бұрын
My Anet A8 already has a fire detection and auto shutdown. When the house is burned, it stops printing.
@oneandy2
3 жыл бұрын
Its got a house-cooking timer? Neat. Auto shut down when house is cooked to golden perfection.
@misteranderbro2328
3 жыл бұрын
Anet A8 - The all-in-one 3d printer and crematorium
@Pedro7526
3 жыл бұрын
It could also send me a text message once my house has burt down beyond repair.
@Kalvinjj
3 жыл бұрын
@@Pedro7526 That's up to your insurance company
@matthewlim-dot-ml
3 жыл бұрын
haha i love anet. i think its genuinely concerning that they have sold so many units that could set on fire mid print!
@marcburger6659
3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the wasteful packaging: I used the majority of my ender 3v2's black foam as sound/thermal insulation in my enclosure. With a few design tweaks to the packaging, one could assemble a full box enclosure, with 3d printed corners and hinges.
@bobthudpucker7730
3 жыл бұрын
That is a really awesome idea, I would totally buy one if the foam became an enclosure
@andrewchudyk8518
3 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@boozekashi
3 жыл бұрын
Soon we’ll be able to buy the printer and the enclosure in a flat pack from IKEA. Then we can print Lack tables to put them on.
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
I've been hoarding any of the flat bits and intend to redo my Ender 5 enclosure. Laser cuts well but doesn't catch on fire with a naked flame.
@FunDumb
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, now you got me thinking. If the foam was heat resistant and fireproof. Like if the foam was made out of starlite?
@SamBalducci
3 жыл бұрын
Having gone through the journey of building my own Voron, I would love to see a "modular Corexy" in the $600 to $800 range with the ability to upgrade over time with new features.
@kylenoyes6390
3 жыл бұрын
Building a 2.4 right now and have the same sentiment. I want a machine that I can factory farm at high speeds with high reliability in an adjustable Z form factor. My biggest drain right now is few printers offer such large bed sizes as the 2.4 which is a huge bummer. While print time may not speed up, I'm super interested in minimizing the amount of maintenance I need to provide to my farm.
@wage4598
3 жыл бұрын
Like the voron legacy? Or vzbot?
@DaveTheGolia7h
2 жыл бұрын
Would you guys consider the Ender 6 in that category?
@FilamentFriday
3 жыл бұрын
In my latest video I discussed how we have advanced/evolved in the low cost printer area. But you make an excellent summary of where to go next. Your clone plus isn’t a big leap. The Voxelab already took out enough cost in there V2 clone to easily become that and backed by a good company FlashForge. Hope they listen. The angled head on CR-30 is to bypass the belt patent so not sure your belt idea can be done yet. Thought that patent was still active. Overall great summary.
@boozekashi
3 жыл бұрын
Watched both vids back to back last night, go together like chocolate & peanut butter. Amazing how far we’ve come in a few short years and where we’re going looks awesome!
@paulradford4100
3 жыл бұрын
Well said Chep.. :-)
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
I think cheap printers are still useful for getting people into the hobby. I guess on the belt it's up to the community to make something unofficial to achieve that functionality.
@mathewcoppola8622
3 жыл бұрын
@@boozekashi speaking of peanut butter... 3:15 -> Side Note: Purple Monkey Dishwasher is ALSO a solid Peanut Butter Porter by Evil Genius Brewing out of Pittsburgh PA. Where the name came from is obvious.
@erikcederb
3 жыл бұрын
The belt patent is most certainly still active, it doesn't expire until 2030, so we're still 10 years from that.
@maplobats
3 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh at the "3d printing experience as simple and reliable as 2d printing" request: I wish I could get inkjet printers to works as reliably as my 3D printers....I never have to buy over priced proprietary filament that costs as much as the printer itself....If I don't use the 3D printer for a few weeks, the filament isn't all dried out and unusable (although it might need to be dried...easy enough) like the ink cartridge will be. My experience with 2d printers is way worse than 3d printers. (Also...if my 3d printer stops working, I can fix it easily, or replace parts cheaply. If a 2d printer stops working....time for a new one.)
@williamsanders6092
3 жыл бұрын
Buy a Laser jet style printer ink jets are horrible 200 dollar printer with 200+ dollar a year supplies.
@cameronmalchow7597
3 жыл бұрын
People forget when printers were really finicky, like the first Bubble Jets from Canon.
@EPortillo5000
3 жыл бұрын
@@cameronmalchow7597 Indeed, in the 90's was a nightmare to print a report in just one try, ussually you spend a lot of time and money to get your stuff right.
@jakegarrett8109
3 жыл бұрын
@@williamsanders6092 I just use laser, no ink needed, only a 50% chance the document catches fire and only 5% chance it burns your house down. Sure it has downsides like it makes a lot of smoke and leaves ash on your hands when you handle the paper, but no more ink! Seriously though I don't own a 2D printer other than using a 7w output laser I attach to my 3d printer, wear safety glasses so you don't go blind, also clean your printers rails afterwards because they do get messy. But you have the option to print on wood if you run out of paper (you can also do aluminum but that would take forever for an 8x11" slab of aluminum)
@carlosperromat3013
3 жыл бұрын
Having a heating device that relies only on software to ensure that the device doesn't catastrophically overheat is downright irresponsible, particularly given how little a thermal fuse costs. Your Marlin firmware can do nothing about a relay stuck on closed.
@mophie6941
3 жыл бұрын
This should be standard and even illegal to sell with out IMO.
@420247paul
3 жыл бұрын
lol relay is going to get stuck open on a dc bed thats funny
@carlosperromat3013
3 жыл бұрын
@@420247paul My bed is an AC bed. Tevo Tornado. And so are the beds of Artillery Genius, Sidewinder X1. By the way, come to make fun of my original comment, I would have pointed out that I said open instead of closed.
@PrintedStupid
3 жыл бұрын
If you look at most any consumer device with a heating element like coffee makers, pressure cookers, contact grills... they all sport _multiple_ thermal fuses and thermostats. I am always amazed by the lack of any such protections from 3D printers.
@poodlescone9700
3 жыл бұрын
@@PrintedStupid Is there a way to install a thermal fuse on existing printers?
@no-trick-pony
3 жыл бұрын
One last comment (sorry for my flood): I REALLY want to see safety features pushed. Overheating protection, smart self tests, shutdown on fan failure, thermal fuses, smoke/heat detection etc is one side that NEEDS to be adressed. Another however is fumes. There has been literally nothing new regarding that, ABS is known to produce toxic fumes and even PLA produces ultra fine particles just like ABS. Offer a filtration station for 100-200 bucks that you can install on any enclosed printer with easily replacable filters (you need activated carbon for the fumes and HEPA for ultra fines. Since I have read "but UFPs are too small for HEPA!!!". No. HEPA works for ultra fines extremely well because at that size they are filtered by electrostatic attraction, not by "too fat too pass". The percentage of a HEPA filter, 99.95% refers to the WORST particle size for it. Particles bigger and smaller get filtrated BETTER than that). Just get the HEPA filters certified not just some random cr** you label as HEPA. Should be easy.
@prahjister
3 жыл бұрын
After seeing the speed boat challenge I would like to see some off-the-shelf system aimed at speed. Smaller build volume is fine.
@JonS
3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I don't have the time right now to do a long build (having young kids). I'd love to buy an OTS fast machine, even at a higher price point than those discussed here.
@miklschmidt
3 жыл бұрын
@@JonS While it might not be exactly what you're looking for, there's the upcoming Rat Rig v-minion (actually shown in the video). It's still a DIY kit though but it doesn't take long to build, as it's small and super simple. I did a 5:38 speedboat on it a few days ago. In PLA even (did require a cooling mod). Starts at 199 euro for the mechanical kit. 499 for the the full kit. It uses the same EVA carriage system as the V-Core 3. Sorry for the shameless plug! 😂
@nunovicente34
3 жыл бұрын
The ratrig v minion will probably be the best small printer, I have a kingroon kp3s and I am very happy with it
@JonS
3 жыл бұрын
@@miklschmidt thanks Mikkel. I've seen that (on your YT channel too). I'm not completely enamored with cantilevered designs, and generally I'm interested in larger print volumes. Then again, I have a Craftbot Flow IDEX with 425mm x 250mm x 250mm for larger prints, and a 5:38 3DBenchy (if appropriate quality for that speed) has me re-evaluating what could be of interest to me. When is it going to be released? And what's the cooling mod (new duct? new blower?)?
@Pedro7526
3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I have to do a lot of iterative design for my work and a printer like that could make the process so much faster. However, building a kit (or diy) printer would mean time not spent on designing.
@peterzhao3387
3 жыл бұрын
We need redundancy for critical parts that will cause harm such as thermistors
@tylersutton2216
3 жыл бұрын
yesssss
@lobsterbark
2 жыл бұрын
This is already a thing, just not included in the box usually. Just modify a line in your firmware, plug in an extra and there you go.
@DoubleL11862
3 жыл бұрын
I'm just a home hobbiest. But I think the Clone Pro idea would be well worth it. Especially in the $400-$700 range.
@popscorn66
3 жыл бұрын
Collin www.kywoo3d.com/ tycoon max fits your first printer specifications for an clone quality printer.
@defsdoor
3 жыл бұрын
The more into this video I get, the more I appreciate just how good Prusa's entire eco system is. They pretty much nail everything.
@Zelrick42
3 жыл бұрын
The most important things, QA and continued software development. That's where Prusa beats them all. My MK3s is from the first few batches of the MK3 and it's been cheaply upgraded several times with parts directly from Prusa, the firmware is regularly updated and the printer even lets you know that there's a new firmware available. When was the last time Creality updated a firmware? Sure on occasion, but it always has annoying bugs or ways of doing things. The MK3 is a few years old now and it's still the best printer on the market, for the price. The other companies could do this, but it's in their country culture to constantly release new version and configs of a product. I fight this in another industry that I work in. They just can't understand that having a good base product and making that that product better and better as new parts, materials and software become available is the right answer. I would happily pay for a printer from another manufacturer that supports and keeps developing their product. I don't expect it to happen though. So Prusa will continue to get my $$$$$
@ameritus9041
3 жыл бұрын
I wish prusa had a budget version of the i3 in 500ish dollar range. I can't justify (at least yet) 1000dollars on a 3d printer, but if they stripped down on some of the higher end functionality and kept the same good quality control and build volume, I could totally see it selling to more people than just me.
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
I think Prusa does a lot of the things people want from this video. Rightly or wrongly, people think their printer a are a bit too expensive.
@ameritus9041
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeachingTech I think for what you get they're actually very competitively priced, I just don't necessarily need all of the features they include.
@Zelrick42
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeachingTech there is a difference between work, what I use my printers for and hobby. But, as the saying goes, you get what you pay for. We have several inexpensive printers for PLA but the real work gets done by Prusa or Raise. Large projects are done on a couple of our custom built printers.
@dirediredude
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say it's a culture/country issue. I think that's a bit short sighted. It's a economic issue. They're doing what's best for the company which means they make all of the cuts that Prusa implements to have a higher margin. Prusa could make those same cuts but they're choosing not to. They know in doing that they won't sell in the same volume as a Creality machine, but their end product will be better quality and then they can also offer better support. It's a very rare thing. Prusa could easily be more greedy but they're choosing not to be. That's my take anyway. This is all about money and always will be.
@MrBlacksharpie
3 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely purchase the Concept B printer right NOW! That is the printer I have been waiting for. I love the RatRig and it's bed leveling but it's a bit pricey. Can't wait to see if this actually gets the manufacturers attention. Thanks for all the work you do!
@MrScorpianwarrior
3 жыл бұрын
I am actually going to work on writing a script that pulls a random model offline to be printed! That sounds super awesome
@ryderpaskevich857
3 жыл бұрын
Duuuude yes!
@ryderpaskevich857
3 жыл бұрын
@Doag mmm, right
@andreisegal5223
3 жыл бұрын
Commenting here to get notified. Comment here when you get it working!
@nikolasbabetas3490
3 жыл бұрын
Let me know when you complete it!
@leighbottecchia6558
3 жыл бұрын
I'd be keen for this if you could pick the genre of thing you'd like to randomise!
@no-trick-pony
3 жыл бұрын
The "modular Corexy" should either come enclosed or with an option to enclose it for printing ABS end the likes. If it can print 2x faster than the "Clone Plus" it would be a total winner. I would pay the price range you suggest. 700 probably only if it comes enclosed.
@any1alive
3 жыл бұрын
Ignroe below, the ratrig already does have rpetty much modular CoreXY, jsut need to put em together as kits. and the bed/extrusions and rails as seperate extras. Modular coreXY, would or should be simple, like a set of upper gantry/set of buildplate,/ and a set of electronics, ... only thing that would need to be swapped out is the bed/heater, 20x20/25x25 and rails the bed and extruder is on, so jsut the Voron, but with less steps, as the software is already made for 30x30 40x40 and 50xc50 bed sizes
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
Just in case you didn't see it, enclosure ready as listed as a feature.
@briguy9915
3 жыл бұрын
Silent fans! THANK YOU! That's all I really care about, I want to print where I sleep.
@jonathanlarsen4177
3 жыл бұрын
you are aware of fumes are ya? This whole topic isn't deeply analyzed and tested yet but it is already known that PLA and ABS (-> ASA) fumes are Carcinogenic.
@briguy9915
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanlarsen4177 I smoke about 2 packs a day, printer fumes are the least of my concerns.
@DanielNavarroJr
3 жыл бұрын
@@briguy9915 😄 THIS is amazing! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@bubume8277
3 жыл бұрын
Thankfully I can sleep with the loud printer meter away from my head, but what bother me more is when I try to do something on my computer while printer is going for whole day. But after I have put my printer into a chamber made of a cabinet, put two big turbines that only spin at 20% max, I found out that the power supply is the loudest of them all and it is outside the chamber. So I need to put like 120x120 PC fan in it to make it quiet probably.
@MakersMuse
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love a sleeve bearing failing after the 3rd print haha.
@no-trick-pony
3 жыл бұрын
I would buy the "Clone Plus" even if it costs 150 or 200 more. It should also come with a GOOD (preferably 32bit) mainboard with replacable drivers and a magnetic bed WITH a GOOD FLAT bed beneath it. I had to buy and install a new bed, a BL-touch myself and had to swap the whole mainboard on my CR10S (the original one) to get quieter drivers. To do the mainboard swap, i had to drill and file completely new holes into the casing. I also had to learn how to configure Marlin, how to flash it and a LOT of trial and error to get it working. It was 10s of hours of wasted time.
@mrhomely
3 жыл бұрын
And I bet you're a smart guy and it took you that long. Not much hope for us morons out there. I'm smart enough to get it assembled and running.
@fleance2k
3 жыл бұрын
@@mrhomely How smart can he be if he's using drills and files instead of just printing an adapter?
@peterzhao3387
3 жыл бұрын
That is a prusa mini
@oohshiny8713
3 жыл бұрын
@@fleance2k Can't print anything if you don't have a working printer already; look at how RepRap came about.
@hillfortherstudios2757
3 жыл бұрын
If somebody provided me with THIS kind of customer/market research for my business, I'd be over the moon! I hope some of these companies capitalize and make better machines now that they know what customers want. I also would hope that people (like myself) who commented suggestions put their money where their mouths are and spend the additional amounts required to make these machines a reality.
@mrhomely
3 жыл бұрын
After having my ender 3 for a few years now. I would absolutely support the clone plus! Bltouch installed, flat bed and fire safety for a $100. Worth every penny of that $100
@mattlogue1300
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the bl touch is usel 🤪
@mattlogue1300
3 жыл бұрын
Usless
@savejeff15
3 жыл бұрын
Great Video but PLEASE DON'T MAKE 3D PRINTER LIKE 2D PRINTER. The paper printer business is highly corrupt and closed down. No clear standard and proprietary driver for ever manufacturer. Please no. It will just end with manufacturer specific filament that turns to dust after 2 month so that you need to buy new filament Rant over
@freemansfreedom8595
3 жыл бұрын
I see a lot asking for the moon, and it feels, IDK, a bit out of touch? IMHO what they are asking is already out there, in the form of high cost printers. if I had to say, take the Ender 3 concept, add silent fans with a 5015 for having a fanduct blow on both sides, add some sort of isolation to a table out of the box, stop with the rubbish custom board (specially when your own custom board is worse and more expensive than a generic one, SKR amirite?) have a better way to tension the X and Y axis (it ain't exactly elegant right now) have the parts have slightly tighter tolerances to make it easier to have it assembled and a place where I can buy you the consumables, since you are having tighter quality control. Oh and for the love of god, change the extruder for a metal version at the very least, specially seeing how it is prone to failure. I know all this would raise the price by about 50-150 quid, but it would be an overall much smoother experience.
@WillowCreative
3 жыл бұрын
seen anycubic vyper? its silent, double cooling fans, and integrated tensioners. Volcano-style/bowden hotend though, not sure if ptfe runs all the way
@Jason-on4hg
3 жыл бұрын
In all truth, you've done more for the "everyman" 3d printer than anyone I can think of. Cheers to you! I'm not a fan of patreon, but I'd happily consider a Crypto donation if you considered it. Cheers!
@mayol74
3 жыл бұрын
Dual Z. All metal hotend ready for high temp filament. Touch screen. Silent fans. Silent steppers. Cable management. Easy software update. Thank for your integrering videos.
@johnkim3858
3 жыл бұрын
= Prusa i3 with a touch screen
@IdeaBoxful
3 жыл бұрын
And the touch screen ideally a capacitative one not the clunky resistive one
@TrailFeatures
3 жыл бұрын
Love all the concepts! More midrange printer options would be great. As far as less wasteful packaging, this is already a solid possibility: kzitem.info/news/bejne/xHemvIqrrqN9eY4
@3DJapan
3 жыл бұрын
Something I'd like is a more accurate ETA for when the print will finish. This goes for both slicers and printers. Sometimes it's -hours- off.
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to cover than briefly in the speed benchy Rat Rig video.
@eva-3d948
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Paweł here, thank you for another EVA shout out!
@agcast
3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more about the more mid range options. I feel like what creality is doing with the ender 6 and 7 is a good start
@TheJacklwilliams
3 жыл бұрын
Covered everything on my mind. To note, I'm on my first printer and making a corexy next. Regarding your closing, I'd say you nailed it perfectly. I was very close to updating my Anet A8Plus with many features mentioned then as a strictly cost choice have decided I'm keeping it stock and moving on to my corexy build. From that perspective, each of the models you proposed are perfect however, for the cost conscious, each one should offer any options so that I could buy the base model and adding those features over time would be plug and play. The BL Touch should be standard across the board. Auto bed leveling for accurate prints not only applies to the casual maker but also those like Miles that have moved on to building there business. We should no longer be manually bed leveling ANY printer, period. I could go on but honestly, as always, you NAILED all of it by representing the customers and adding good insight and commentary to everyones suggestions. Hands down the most amazing channel. Your work got me from building my first printer (wow that was something) to getting a beautiful calibration cube to now doing so much more. I can't thank you enough Michael, you absolutely ROCK!
@Mueller3D
3 жыл бұрын
If you've got an A8 and are looking at corexy, consider Tech2C's Hypercube (on Thingiverse and KZitem).
@jhcoverdrive9287
2 жыл бұрын
I do agree about bed leveling 100%. I’ve spent some years with old non-CNC machines and some older CNC circuit board builders and mills, etc…manually tramming the bed and then doing a round of feeler gauging before firing off a print is close to second nature to me and I personally don’t mind it (I also verified my bed is pretty darn flat so that helps). That said, I will not scoff at my next machine having a BL probe. It definitely seems like we’ve passed the point where it should be standard.
@tomtaylor135
3 жыл бұрын
1. Auto Bed Level out of the box. If I had to start over if it didn't have it. I would not buy it. Without it. 2. X gantry should be a solid plate from side to side. With V-Wheel extrusion screwed to it. No more worries about gantry being level. And spending hours getting it right. I also changed mine out to large t-nuts 3/4 inch long. Because the way they do it is just wrong. Putting a screw thru the plate in to the extrusion. Is not the right way to do that. Although there are a few like BQ that have widened out the screw pattern. On the x gantry plate which does make it easier.
@ConstantijnC
3 жыл бұрын
good job! really appreciate this critical yet constructive video. I am very exhausted of all the clones myself and would love to see some actual progression in the field.
@miklschmidt
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i'm definitely gonna come back to this one more than once! THANK YOU! And thank you to everybody who answered!
@gatling216
3 жыл бұрын
Modular core XY would be perfect. I'm looking to build a Voron over the next year or so to spread out the cost, but if I could buy something with the features I want off the shelf at a midrange price, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
@MrBobby
3 жыл бұрын
Can you please stop with i3 style 3D printers? The construction itself is already a disadvantage. More voron 2.4, voron 0, ultimaker or bcn3d style printers please!!
@johnkim3858
3 жыл бұрын
I think that is like asking car manufactures to build more mid-engine cars :(
@JasperJanssen
3 жыл бұрын
The price advantage of i3 style is something that definitely should not be stopped.
@MrBobby
3 жыл бұрын
Well, I would rather pay 100-200$ more for a better cube style construction than a “bed slinger” and for the price of a Prusa you definitely can make a good cube style 3D Printer.
@JasperJanssen
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBobby what *you* personally want should not be the defining feature of the entire market.
@MrBobby
3 жыл бұрын
What I personally recommend! (Didn’t say that I want) Being a mechanical engineer and working on Hermle CNC Machines I think I know better what works great and what doesn’t. The prusa style is worth it only on sub 400$ printers in my opinion. There’s no excuse for not trying to make a better form factor. So in my opinion the i3 style is just keeping the industry from innovation because it’s a cheap and easy to make form factor those being convenient for companies who just don’t want to leave their comfort zone 😉.
@groteboem
3 жыл бұрын
Spares (Like nozzles, couplers and some ptfe) included by the factory would be nice - that way you have original parts that just work. Doesnt cost that much more for the manufacturer. Saves packaging and shipping cost and saves waste
@andrewchudyk8518
3 жыл бұрын
For the masses that just want to print and not tinker, "clone plus" is the way to go. It would give something like a "Prusa Experience" for a fraction of the price. I think most casual users would be willing to pay the extra premium over the current generic Ender 3 & it's multitude of clones.
@ameritus9041
3 жыл бұрын
Or if prusa just offered a budget option of their i3 that stripped some of the functions, but kept the best bits.
@rynnjacobs8601
3 жыл бұрын
I assume, that a Clone Plus would cost the same as a Prusa. Especially with „thourougly tested“ and „actual warranty & support". The +$100 price-tag would only hold *without* testing, warranty and support.
@marc_frank
3 жыл бұрын
anycubic vyper
@bernardtarver
3 жыл бұрын
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses. - Henry Ford
@douglasvictor9757
3 жыл бұрын
I bet that wouldn't have been true if he asked early car enthusiasts ranther than the general public.
@bernardtarver
3 жыл бұрын
@@douglasvictor9757 If if was a fifth...
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart
3 жыл бұрын
Tbf, a car is just a very fast mechnized horse
@insomnia7337
3 жыл бұрын
Did he give them malnourished Chinese horses instead?
@quickdry3
3 жыл бұрын
the 500-700 corexy would be a "just take my money" proposition for so many, I'm happy to tinker to make it perfect - but I'm sick of needing to print additions just to get it to the stage where it prints well.
@coilockerfpv
3 жыл бұрын
"Manufactuers" is a typo that looks pretty legit
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
I noticed about an hour after posting and was interested to see if it would be picked up. I think people were excited to have their say and they didn't really notice.
@Tux2mc
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeachingTech I definitely noticed, but was too polite to comment on it.
@3dpprofessor
3 жыл бұрын
TL:DR I want polyjet in my home. I like your concept C, but the way you describe it you have 4 axises. The 3 you print and the one for the bed. One of the strengths of the CR30 is that it's no more complex than a normal 3D printer. What if a CR30 could print layer-by-layer? In fact, I think it could, and I'm going to be playing with that idea in the future. But, we need to address the fact that FDM 3D printing is unreliable. Also, most FFF 3D printers aren't water tight and they only do one material. A tool changer is an essential addition and saying "I want an affordable and reliable tool changer" would be my realistic answer to the next step in 3D printing. But I want more than even that. There's a 3D printing technology that's been around for years. It's capable of absolutely perfect prints with multiple materials, and more than that it can mix materials on the fly with discreet changes. Full color 3D prints. Flexible. Rigid. any mix of flexible and rigid. Dissolvable supports. Even optically transparent material that is so optically transparent that people have even used this technology to make prescription lenses with. How's it work? It uses light curing resins deposited by an inkjet-like head and then following the layer with a UV light to cure it layer-by-layer. The catch is that 3d Systems owns the patent on Polyjet , and they rule over it with an iron fist and a high price tag. So we probably won't have that in our homes for a while now and I'm back to saying I want a tool changer. But with 16 heads!
@apinakapinastorba
3 жыл бұрын
People want a ”prusa experience” but not willing to pay the price for it?
@douggjoseph
3 жыл бұрын
I actually had an "interaction" in a 3D-printing help forum with a "new user" who (my words:) expected Prusa-style support from her purchase of an (upper $200's) clone. In reply to my sincere effort to help, this person made clear they did not even want help from the community - only from the manufacturer - and they came to the forum merely to vent, as they were not getting a timely or satisfactory reply from their manufacturer. :-)
@Ayce47
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because that price tag makes no fucking sense.
@PWNHUB
2 жыл бұрын
3:47 scientific quality beds would be ideal, but likely expensive. Even still, I wouldn't lap a CPU on most 3d printer beds.
@Martial-Mat
3 жыл бұрын
Wasteful packaging? The box you showed was entirely proportial to the fragility of the contents and the fact that it is possibly sent across the planet. I was 100% down with all the people who simply asked for reliable out-of-the-box printers with decent components (all metal hot end and flex build plate - really how much can they POSSIBLY add to the price?). I'd like at least 2 colour/material as standard so that I can print soluble supports.
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
There's better ways to protect stuff inside boxes. Moulded cardboard for one or maybe biodegradable foam. It's just whether the manufactures care enough to invest in this and whether we as consumers push them.
@guimauve522
3 жыл бұрын
@@TeachingTech lmao the amount of consumers buying cheap printers push the manufacturers to reduce cost by NOT using "better" protective material
@JATMN
3 жыл бұрын
While the legality of the patent is questionable.. Makerbot/Stratasys owns the patent on the MakerBot belt bed and no one wants to face Stratasys in court.. the nozzle being perpendicular to the bed for this concept. Hence why the angled belt printers as this gets around the details of the patent.
@williamsteele
3 жыл бұрын
Exacrly... Whole reason I developed the tilted belt printer was to break that patent.
@3DPrintAcademy
3 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos you've ever published... congrats! Greetings from Brazil!
@applepi99
3 жыл бұрын
As well as quieter fans they should come with better fan ducts.
@ellisgl
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah part coolers on printers seem like they were put it on for decoration. The Biqu BX is loud, the loudest printer I've ever owned. One day I'll get around to changing out the fan.
@Flagazz
3 жыл бұрын
good point! Proper and silent fans and full tested ducts from factory... simulating desings with CFD - Computational Fluid Dynamics - softwares (expensive? There is a open source one) will achieve a good performance for the ducts / part cooling fans
@joepeach997
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best “customer care” , productive and meaningful videos I have seen in a long time! I would love to see progressive report cards on what manufacturers showed interest and responses with the info given to them. I only have notifications turned on for a few, you are #1. Thank you for your unparalleled level of dedication to this amazing field.
@N33sWorkshop
3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to have the ability to upgrade a printer to a heated enclosure one, that can work around 100C. I mean, it is thought out in a way that puts electronics on a side and most of the plastic parts also come in a metal version. Plus chamber heating options.
@tylersutton2216
3 жыл бұрын
yes
@crowguy506
3 жыл бұрын
A „Plug and Play“ style printer with an actual serviceable hot end would be nice. Easy declogging instead of replacing an expensive proprietary unserviceable head for minor issues.
@hugotoscher4734
3 жыл бұрын
Special non planar/core xy machine. That means you would have machine for like 1500€ which would be able to print in normal moxe like core xy but vould have longer nozzle and higher placed fan to be able to print non-planar as well.
@CASSDesigns
3 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting to hear everybody’s viewpoints. Great video man! Plus, the clone plus sounds like a great idea
@bentebrunsvelt319
3 жыл бұрын
Yes,YES better good 3d printers beter software 👏👏👏👏👍
@Khalm_Down_Hobbies
Жыл бұрын
This video has aged very well. Especially with Bambuu labs current popularity.
@TeachingTech
Жыл бұрын
According to Bambu, this video inspired them to push on with their printers. Of that, I'm very proud.
@riba2233
8 ай бұрын
@@TeachingTech great work, you really are a voice of reason!
@igoraugusto4629
3 жыл бұрын
I want more carbon fiber parts, to achieve high speed printing. Reduce weight on bed axis can improve speed and reduce vibration. In corexy, carbon fiber frame on Y axis will bring more speed to, and again less vibration. CARBON FIBEEER
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, I love carbon fiber too.
@davenarisotto3674
3 жыл бұрын
make the vogon a printer that can be bought like prusa
@liamventer
3 жыл бұрын
Rat Rig is half way there in terms of being purchase as factory kit and many advantages over vorons.
@JonS
3 жыл бұрын
Not a machine improvement, but I want to see smarter slicers that incorporate simulation, or AI that does the same, to intelligently place supports (that don't break during the print), optimize layer height for different regions of the model, dynamically change extrusion width, etc., and optimizes infill. Slicing should not require user expertise, only users to select some preferences. It doesn't seem too much of a stretch to train a neural network with a database of expert slicing optimizations, and then get it to generalize those optimizations.
@zachbrown7272
3 жыл бұрын
Formlabs has already done all of this (except extrusion related stuff), I think the big problem is they have patents on a lot of it.
@mattsoup4121
3 жыл бұрын
Nail on the head with the mid tier machine. Enclosed corexy with bed levelling and an all metal hotend is pretty much perfect for a higher end hobby grade printer.
@3DJapan
3 жыл бұрын
One thing I've noticed is that resin printers seem to be doing better than FDM with some of these things. For example they all seem to have a touch screen and a picture of the model before you print. I also like that most of them use a USB flash drive while most FDM seem to use an SD card or worse, a micro SD card.
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Th speed vs quality is pretty good too. Just a shame they are very un-user friendly by nature with the resin.
@Carlos_GS
3 жыл бұрын
10:46 this reminded me of Homer Simpson's ideal car design requests
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
I could only dream of designing on Homer's level :)
@Adam-my8qx
3 жыл бұрын
What about future upgrade kits offered by manufacturers? Like how Prusa Mk2s can be brought all the way up to current generations in upgrade kit offerings.
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed Prusa do a great job on not leaving customers behind.
@johnchristopherrobert1839
3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that you would mention the extruded head on a rotating axis. That’s what I want.
@Vash.Baldeus
3 жыл бұрын
As much as that idea is fun, it introduces a failure point on the machine.
@Mueller3D
3 жыл бұрын
The video showed printers with both rotating heads and rotating beds, even if he didn't explicitly say so.
@WillowCreative
3 жыл бұрын
Anycubic just released Vyper, which looks like another ender clone but actually has some additional features for an extra 100$, including auto level and spring steel magnetic bed. It's only missing the direct drive, but in exchange for that it has a volcano-style hotend So far pretty happy with mine
@McOldwolf
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that one... Looks awesome and actually covers a lot of the points mentioned
@MarinusMakesStuff
3 жыл бұрын
I just want to chip in and say you've nailed it again. Great video. I have my personal wishes because I like to design my own machines, but it's really important that printer manufacturers make better machines to prevent machines from becoming waste prematurely.
@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071
3 жыл бұрын
Ok what we need and you should build up with others like Makers Muse 3DPrinting Nerd Thomas Sanladerer and others is a joined Discord Server where all of you do also commit to some LIVE Stream session. Those KZitem Chat's are really hard and useless if you ask me. Because with Discord you can post also photos and idea's for a much better collaboration. Like 2 KZitem Nerd's do always a live stream together one does the LIVE Video and one does all the Chat and talking behind the Camera so it's more of a Group Live stream.
@SyntheToonz
3 жыл бұрын
I vote for being able to 3D scan -- and get a GOOD quality scan out of it.
@ENGME_FaisalAli
3 жыл бұрын
U can try Recap Pro by autodesk it's good and if u have good camera and multiple images from different views it can create good 3-D models just by taking photos and uploading them.
@macswanton9622
3 жыл бұрын
I doubt the market could ever support that much new technology for consumer use. Unfortunately.
@chrismorrison9140
3 жыл бұрын
That's really a whole different topic.
@cameronmalchow7597
3 жыл бұрын
Personally, if I have an actual 3d scanner I want it to be portable, not stuck to my 3d printer.
@paulmaydaynight9925
3 жыл бұрын
what... no one asked for Barton Dring's powerful 'Grbl_ESP32 port' & extensions including generic wireless interaction etc boards etc 'Barton Dring Demo of 6 Axis Grbl_ESP32'
@Bertymcbertface
3 жыл бұрын
something in that mid tier but core xy with a cr10 volume, abl, spring pei bed and pi support/upgade path
@BigDan1190
3 жыл бұрын
Soooo a Sapphire Plus :D
@Bertymcbertface
3 жыл бұрын
@@BigDan1190 yeah but with a actual hot end and qa
@BigDan1190
3 жыл бұрын
@@Bertymcbertface The new V1.1 is actually not bad QA wise. But i agree, the hot end needs swapping out. I picked up a trianglelabs V6 clone for mine and it works really well
@t3chninja_official
3 жыл бұрын
Me over here going...I just want a better printer than I have. I have a cheap i3 clone because I'm cheap. I actually want a $150 clone with 220 x 220 x 220 build area, a auto- bed leveler, silent steppers and silent fans. A sturdy frame, a touch screen. Oh and the hot end needs to have a parts cooler fan (pwm). And last all replacement parts need to be reasonably priced. Plus run marlin. Not looking for speed (60-90), just good quality printed parts, no fuss.
@danne77sthlm
3 жыл бұрын
1: First and foremost, a FLAT properly heated BED, this annoys me to no end on every printer that I owned. 2: Triple or quad Z as on the rat rig, proper bed leveling that is 3 : And for the love of the gods, SILENT FANS AND STEPPERS, how hard can it be? 4 All metal hotend and direct drive option from factory 5: Built in octoprint space and pwr for raspberry 6: Security and quality control, yeah, looking at you creality! 7: Cable management and proper bowden tube fittings that wont move if you have a bowden system 8: Built in LED lights 9: Camera mounts options 10: Enclosed printer options for us that like to print ABS and others like that
@Commanderhurtz1
3 жыл бұрын
^ This right here.
@memyselfandi445
3 жыл бұрын
I like options 2 and 3, three more so. Option 1 seems kind of unrealistic at a $300 price point (BIQU BX ticks the specs, but is 550, which is a bit high; 400-450 seems like a reasonable price point for such a machine
@Thee_Sinner
3 жыл бұрын
As someone just getting into 3D printing, I just wish it didn’t feel like I needed a semester of college worth of studying before even trying to decide which printer would work for me
@vgamesx1
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, why is that the hard part? I get there's a lot of choice but unless you find some amazing deal then don't worry about getting some random printer, just stick to the ones most people recommend, so for example if you don't mind an hour or two of DIY assembly, then pick up a printer kit namely the Ender 3 or an upgraded variant since those have by far the largest community and widest range of spare/compatible parts, the best part is if you don't want to spend a lot up front you can start with it as is then upgrade it over time (although at the very least you want to buy better springs as the stock springs suck). If that's too much work, you don't want to manage bed leveling or modifying it and just want something to work, then pony up the $1000 or so for something nice like the Prusa i3 and be done with it.
@techdiyer5290
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, i think that if all the companies had 2 or 3 "Base models" each slightly different, but upgradable, and each priced from low, medium to high price, many people would like that. so basically like base models. then from there it might be easier to make small changes to orders, based on what people want, instead of having one machine and being able to customize everything. Much easier for the company, and probably more sophisticated for the buyers that want it. I think That if the 3 were priced approximately $200 , $500, $1000 and each had a price cap, you could have a "base model" for each, then make changes from there. Changes like upgrades and/or trades. so basically get a hotend that is all metal, But compromise something... like maybe noise or something. Also, if someone didn't know what they need/want, they can just buy a base model.
@Obee270
3 жыл бұрын
This is basically free market research for any 3D printing company. I’m cautiously optimistic that someone, somewhere is taking notes.
@LightTribe88
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the true spirit of 3d printing is open source. It exists in its current state, mostly the result of shared knowledge. So, this is kinda like open source market research!
@TeachingTech
3 жыл бұрын
I think the community will always be the ones pushing the envelope, and then when enough people are interested the ideas are gradually incorporated into manufacturer machines.
@minhonggao5383
3 жыл бұрын
True, this information is quite helpful,l to us, I have taken the note already, this research will be evaluated for our next project
@douggjoseph
3 жыл бұрын
@@minhonggao5383 Minhong Gao, thanks. What company are you with?
@dannybush6131
3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME VIDEO! Your CORE XY model would be the one for me. The idea of getting the core unit and being able to finish it as the capital is available is perfect. A $2000 printer is not that insane when you can put the last $1000 into it a bit at a time. The better they engineer it the more upgrades we can add to like your VIA idea on your RR. Thanks Micheal for all your work.
@iteerrex8166
3 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely, I would also like more non planar development.
@MakeTechPtyLtd
3 жыл бұрын
Non planar, and CNC kitchen's intelligently varied infill. 2 game changer technologies imo
@Thorhian
3 жыл бұрын
That’s going to be more of a software problem rather than mechanics. CNC machines with rotary axis are nothing new, and even non-planar techniques that use the standard 3 axis are not simple.
@oliknow
3 жыл бұрын
What I actually want? To have all 3D printers with reliable ABL as an option from factory. Believe it or not, som, like me, only need a printer as a tool and can not afford 3500 Bucks for the semi professional class. Lined Hotends are also something that we don't need anymore. Lot of companies are making High Quality All Metal Designs these days. They work nicely with all Materials, no Problem. And of course parts bought in bulk from Manufacturers are cheaper than upgrading the Hell out of it as a private person.
@travisclark6407
3 жыл бұрын
In the resin arena, I would not mind a printer that accesses a larger reservoir when the vat runs low on some of these larger miniature prints. :D
@ellisgl
3 жыл бұрын
I know that there are some "easy" mods for that.
@tronskifpv
3 жыл бұрын
Prusa printers check most of these boxes. Yet they are outsold 100:1 by a cheap creality or clones. I love the topic and people had great ideas, but a cheap PLA printer will outsell everything. Not to mention the next level up is being build from scratch now. I think we leapfrogged what a manufacture can provide in performance, reliability, value all by ourselves as hobbyists paired with the internets knowledge.
@christianmarkussen6412
3 жыл бұрын
I would really like the modular CoreXY printer
@MrKnoppersesser
3 жыл бұрын
I really like my Ender 5 especially after my upgrades. But even tho I was lucky and everything worked great out of the box, I had a warped bed. My friend hadn't so much luck and his E5 has a lot more errors. I was always exited to see the Ender 6 and 7 as an update with core XY. But seeing reviews of the 6 and 3D Printing Nerds stre on the 7, again quality problems, warped beds and the design not tested until the end. Many people buy the Ender Series as their first printer, because they read good reviews. But when the printer arrives with warped beds, or the incorrect firmware after a design revision people face problems in a brand new machine. Either thy gib up on 3D printing or they come to the forums and the community has to fix the manufacturers issues. We are in a time, where a lot of people are joining the 3D printing community. So we need proper entrance printers. Just like Michael described. The machine doest have to be super fast or super big. But has to be solid, quality controlled and have a guided first time experience the is guaranteed to work. Just like Michael described.
@andreask.2675
3 жыл бұрын
4D printing? This is state of the art: My printers usually print hours into the future! :'D
@silverfoxslash
3 жыл бұрын
What if it could print into the past?
@andreask.2675
3 жыл бұрын
@@silverfoxslash Well, wouldn't that mean, that your print would disappear with time? If you want this, just print with PVA and put it into water. This is basically the same effect! :'D
@silverfoxslash
3 жыл бұрын
@@andreask.2675 But depending which time theory you subscribe to you could print something for yourself in the past.
@andreask.2675
3 жыл бұрын
@@silverfoxslash So, if I print all the stuff I need NOW in the FUTURE, there would be no need to buy myself a 3D-printer. But if I never bought myself a printer, how could I print something ... *head explodes*
@silverfoxslash
3 жыл бұрын
@@andreask.2675 I can't.......explain this. Making me rethink my wish.
@Athanatosti
3 жыл бұрын
I would love a proper modular Core XY printer! I've wanted one for a long time but the ones that exist (Tronxy, Ender 6/7) don't look too impressive and the SecKit Go project seems too difficult for me to assemble.
@adilsongoliveira
3 жыл бұрын
As a bed, I use a simple, cheap mirror that I bought and asked to be cut the size I wanted. It is flat and I have no problems with adhesion and I already used it at 120ºC without any issues.
@squidcaps4308
3 жыл бұрын
Same, haven't had an issue since i usually just smile when i see BLTouch being used to fix a wonky bed.. There is no better solution for a wonky bed than a flat bed.
@Flagazz
3 жыл бұрын
you guys should try “wham bam” style steel sheet with PEI/PEX. Muuuuuch better then a flat mirror or something. PS. I’ve been printing since 2014 and I tryed at least 6 types of bed and many adhesives
@TheNamelessOne12357
3 жыл бұрын
Want something done right - do it yourself. It's like car tuning. Someone builds a car he completely likes, but when someone else tries to drive it for a prolonged period of time, he will say, that everything is done wrong and needs to be completely rebuilt. And it's like trying to tell car manufacturers, that we need more powerful engine, better brakes, etc. They won't even listen to you and keep making same crap. So build the 3D Printer of your dreams yourself
@mattfranck7040
3 жыл бұрын
Reliable, high quality component parts, accurate prints. But I'm mostly frustrated by things like cheap fans or bearings going out even on my Prusa printers.
@rhadiem
3 жыл бұрын
I would immediately buy 1-2+ of the Concept B modular Corexy options. I hate tinkering with printers but want current tech features on my printer, not some clone of a 5+ year old model. Fast accurate high volume printing with official upgrade paths that don't involve rewiring the printer for a better mainboard and making an eva2 printhead for my hemera.
@JorgeMendoza-415
3 жыл бұрын
I would like the clone plus to have linear rails by default instead of those features you suggested in your video
@micahjardine8456
3 жыл бұрын
I would really like to have more choice from the manufactures on what parts i want. eg I would like be able to buy a Ender CR6, but I do not want the creality mainboard or the hotend. It would be nice to have more customisable options when purchasing. There is no point paying for something you want to replace.
@wage4598
3 жыл бұрын
I think you did a lot of good here, all you were missing was a budget option, say something that's basically a kp3s but for sub 100$, doesn't need to be big just not have too many issues, documentation really. Modularity makes a lot of sense because you can have one machine that can be a toolchanger or anything else you desired. Good job with this video!
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