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@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
@@zztop4996 - Thanks! I’m planning on coming back at some point.
@SouthernGentleman
3 жыл бұрын
Can you do Camp Douglas?
@LTB528
2 жыл бұрын
My family fought for the South, in the MO 7th calvary. Thankfully they all made it home.
@harryasstruman3101
2 жыл бұрын
I grew up around those parts. During the war Alton took on the moniker of Pie Town. The sympathetic women of Alton would bake pies and bring them to the starving prisoners I'm quite sure the death rate would have been much higher without their help. Love this channel thank you
@RBG-tr9ce
2 жыл бұрын
@@SouthernGentleman Thats where my 2nd great grand father was held after his capture at the Battle of Franklin.
@CSchnell-lj1io
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t listen to the haters, you’ll never satisfy them, just do you.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't let them bother me. I find is mostly amusing.
@robertcieslak6260
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground I think you are doing a great job with our nations history and as you say, don't worry about the naysayers. You cannot ever please everyone, but you are doing an excellent and very interesting video series on history of our nation. Keep the series going as I look forward to all of them. I'm located in Michigan and we do have any Civil War Battlegrounds, our battlegrounds are from the War of 1812.
@danamichelle1290
3 жыл бұрын
I tend to jump to conclusions and speak too soon. I hate being a "hater" unless it's completely warranted or benefits a greater good. After taking a step back, I'm happily a new subscriber. 😁✌
@markwright4385
2 жыл бұрын
I like haters. They help me mow my lawn.
@susanr1903
2 жыл бұрын
Keep on doing a good job
@shawnpatrick3251
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you'll never satisfy everyone. The fact that you're doing a service to all men who served in the civil war both Union and Confederate and telling stories regardless of what side you were on suggest to me that you're about the history and not about the side. This video was well done as always.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@seansmith5468
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember watching the Michael brown video wondering what a coward the camera person was
@80sHeavymetalchick9
3 ай бұрын
Was there another pow camp in New York? Elmira if I remb correctly... But yea to me it's all horrors of war..
@RobSambles
3 жыл бұрын
Very well spoken in the last couple of minutes. Couldn't agree more.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that. Thanks.
@glendavertner8906
3 жыл бұрын
My 2 times Great grandfather, Samuel Chase Woodfin's brother Moses was taken prisoner of at the battle of Missionary Ridge, Chattanooga, Tennessee. He was taken to the Union POW Camp at Rock Island, Illinois. After getting my Ancestry DNA, I started finding info on the "Woodfin Boys of Rutherford County". I Googled the Rock Island POW Camp. It was bad! There was a TV documentary years ago about a Union POW Camp near Chicago. This show described this camp was just as bad as Andersonville. All POW Camps were bad. Thank God Moses survived his imprisonment. I have no idea how his health was when he returned home. Thank you for showing both sides. WAR IS HELL. Continue your good work. Hope you have a blessed, healthy and prosperous New Year. Please stay safe. 🙏🥰👍👌🙏🦅🔔🗽🇺🇸🙏
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
They were definitely rough places to be. Thanks and have a great new year!
@Mondo762
3 жыл бұрын
Glenda - My Great Grandfather, Newton E Smith, was also captured at Missionary Ridge. He may have been on the same train as your 2 times Great Grandfather. Thankfully he came home after it was over, along with his brother.
@JB-hl1qx
3 жыл бұрын
Camp Douglas is what i believe your referring to. It was hell ! Andersonville on steroids.
@cclyon
3 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful monument they put up. The men who died were still Americans at the bottom of everything and deserve to be remembered. I had family on both sides of the war (which I didn't know until recently.) Thanks for visiting these places.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
@stevebean1543
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for visiting the site of this prison and remembering the men who died there. I have ancestors who were in both armies. My great-great-grandfather, Wilson Cherry Jr., was a Confederate soldier who died at Camp Morton in Indianapolis, of which no remnants remain today. He is buried in a mass grave at Crown Hill Cemetery. While I am no sympathizer of the Confederate cause, I fear that many in their modern day zeal to right past wrongs will go too far and attempt to obliterate the memory of men like my great-great-grandfather. Every man, regardless of which side he fought for, deserves to have his existence acknowledged at his burial site - and when we do so, it does not necessarily indicate approval of the cause for which he fought. We would do well, as the survivors of Andersonville did at Providence Spring, to remember the words of Abraham Lincoln: "With malice toward none, with charity for all..." A couple of other interesting historical notes about Alton: it was the site of the final Lincoln-Douglas debate on 10/15/1858, and it was the birthplace of jazz legend Miles Davis.
@828enigma6
Жыл бұрын
Its already happening, with destruction of memorials to Confederate dead by ANTIFA goons or sanctioned removal by woke local governments, despite being illegal by law in some states.
@billd.iniowa2263
3 жыл бұрын
I think alot of the suffering was due to both sides having no real system for dealing with POWs to begin with. They were so eager to go to war that after the battles they found they had prisoners. "Well, now what do we do with them?" There being no provisions established for this problem, they dealt with it as best they could. Resulting in half-measures and slipshod results. Things could have been done better on both sides, that is certain. But when you're trying to win a war, bullets are on the top of your priorities list. And POWs end up on the bottom.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what happened. They just weren't prepared.
@danielh2049
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly right there
@danielh2049
3 жыл бұрын
With prisonor exchange being stopped and some evilness on both sides also i believe led to deaths on both sides
@billd.iniowa2263
3 жыл бұрын
@@danielh2049 Absolutely. The ending of the prisoner exchange policy sat very bitterly with alot of people. Not the least of which were the prisoners. I think thats when it really became a war to free the slaves. And many Union men felt they hadnt signed up for that. Not all of them joined to fight the "Great Crusade against slavery".
@danielh2049
3 жыл бұрын
@@billd.iniowa2263 yup i agree
@traceyfrommelbourneaustral8649
3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the TV series “The Civil War” about 30 years ago and found it fascinating. Did you know that the Confederate warship, the Shenandoah, sailed into Melbourne in 1865 to recruit men to fight for the South? When I was in secondary school we learnt about it in Australian history.
@Rumpleskin
3 жыл бұрын
I miss the old history channel.
@carywest9256
Жыл бұрын
I see you used the word learnt, l also use it in speech. Being from the South,and in particular Texas quite a few of the older folks still speak words from the U.K. l know your an Aussie, but your ancestors came from England,Scotland,Wales or the Isle of lreland right?
@beachcomber1able
Жыл бұрын
Did they tell the Melbourne guys that the South was on the verge of defeat 🤔
@HuntStacheHistory
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, as always. I really appreciate your mention of the wreaths. It brought to mind one of my favorite quotes from Band of Brothers when Shifty Powers was being interviewed during the "We stand alone together" video. He said in regards to the German soldiers... "We might have had a lot in common. He might’ve liked to fish, you know, he might’ve liked to hunt" "Of course, they were doing what they were supposed to do, and I was doing what I was supposed to do. But under different circumstances, we might have been good friends" - SSG. Darrell "Shifty" Powers
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
I've thought about that interview often. I've heard other veterans say the same thing. It seems that if they can forgive and reconcile, we can too.
@jms9057
2 жыл бұрын
But would you put a German flag on the grave of a US WWII soldier on Memorial Day?
@keithmitchell6918
3 жыл бұрын
Well said... "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
@ryanfischer6550
3 жыл бұрын
The one constant of war is that it is never innocent. Atrocities are committed by all actors, because war is at its very core an atrocity. The fact that the most intelligent and sentient beings cannot reconcile differences other than to kill one another, is the greatest atrocity. Unfortunately sometimes that is the only option, to fight evil, with evil acts. I fear that this rewriting of history being promoted by so many we will forget everything that lead up to the point of war. You MUST study history from everyone’s perspective. Thank you.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully people will take the time to study the past and then pause to think about themselves and where they fit in.
@alecs6492
3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I feel that you always approach everything in a respectful manner.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that. I try :)
@mpaxton8991
Жыл бұрын
He does. It's about history, not taking sides.
@timothyogden9761
3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Illinois and am sure this is the first time I've learned of a Civil War P.O.W. camp in Alton. Keep this up and I will be an A student soon. Happy New Year and God bless you .
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad that I could put it on the radar for you :)
@clifforddreaden3483
2 жыл бұрын
Lived in mt carmel.been to alton as well
@patjones2082
Жыл бұрын
Learn about Camp Douglas in what is now Chicago.
@tomcaroscio
3 жыл бұрын
Your next stop should be Elmira, NY my hometown and I still live in the area. Civil War Camp called Helmira.
@galndixie
3 жыл бұрын
I had several relatives imprisoned at Elmira, including my 3rd and 2nd great-grandfathers. They were outside in ragged makeshift tents in sub-zero weather, and fed slop, when they were fed at all. 3rd great-grandfather died there (disease) in Feb 1865, and 2nd great-grandfather made it home. The war was over in April 1865, but they didn't release him until July, and he had to find his own way home to Virginia.
@Dulcimertunes
3 жыл бұрын
Home of the bank examiner in “It’s a Wonderful Life”
@bucktaylor6522
3 жыл бұрын
Very cool iam a civil war reenactor i got to visit Johnson Island prison in Sandusky oh they where doing an archeological dig at the time there is nothing left of the buildings but they have signs where each building was and there is a cemetery there too very cool place
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. I'd very much like to see that. Thanks!
@patricialenaburg6553
3 жыл бұрын
You will never please everyone. I have found you fair in all stories, and history you narrate. Your non judgmental, and don't take sides as to what history is about. Please who you can, your doing a good job.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that! I try to be as unbiased as I can when highlighting these places. But there will always be people who are dissatisfied with something. Thanks for watching!
@azvoltmanphoenix446
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your hard work, very interesting videos. Great job !!
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@erickstiner1668
3 жыл бұрын
JD, it’s unfortunate that folks who criticized you, are still living the “them verses us” attitude. Sad on so many levels. The union believed in a set of principles as did the confederates. It was fought over and the union prevailed. But, in all reality BOTH sides lost....
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
It is unfortunately that people are still wanting to fight that war after 160 years. I get some pretty heated comments on the Civil War videos.
@kurtsherrick2066
3 жыл бұрын
That was a intelligent statement. You bet both sides lost. According to new Studies before Chickamauga the Union Army had lost 400,000 men. Depending on the study the kill ratio of the total battles was 2.5 to 3 Union casualties to 1 Confederate. That is probably because in those days the attacking Army usually took much more Casualties. But as in this video I believe more troops on both sides died of Disease. They were Marching Disease Factories.
@trh55
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground They want to fight a war from way back then, but overlook the ones from (50-60-75) years ago. I have no problem driving an (American built /Japanese) Toyota; I'm a dealer for Doosan (Korean) machinery, and have probably worn a few sets of running shoes from (Viet Nam). Wars are all hell and its best to put them behind us, but still remember them with great history lessons.
@stephensdygert7600
3 жыл бұрын
All violent servile insurrection and revolution is wrong(sin) regardless of the outcome. Read Romans chapter 13. God honors and tolerates the new government. The founding revolutionary, slave owning Oligarchs were wrong to take up arms against the King of England. 80% of of the population was against that stupid war. After the revolution, it was worst for the average citzen. In 1861 the slave owning, tax evading Oligarchs of the Confederacy were 100% wrong(sin) to take up arms AGAINST the government of Abraham Lincoln. Today it would be wrong to fire cannons, on Trump towers, regardless of how you feel about Trump.
@denisd.budnik7803
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you have to experience such "hatred." It seems to me our precious Republic has not learned how to better deal with hatred from our ancestors... I'm speaking about the insurrection of our Captiol on January 6th 2021. If we can't remember history, we're condemned to repeat it." Keep up the good work JD, I throughly enjoy everyone of your episodes and learn from it. Sincerely, Denis
@m.jewell9107
2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading that for the women survivors of the Civil War, the greatest obstacle to healing was that so many of the remains were not returned to home soil, so that families could have a grave to mourn at. The southern women began decorating Union graves near them as consolation, hoping that perhaps up north, women would decorate the graves of the southern soldiers in return.
@FaithfulPracticalHomesteading
5 ай бұрын
Not having the remains of their loved ones is the primary reason for all of the Confederate monuments. They are not a symbol of hate, but of remembrance.
@prontsc
3 жыл бұрын
What is awful is Anarchists toppling down these memorials. Thank Goodness they have touched this one, yet!
@lahart2003
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and very well done! Thank you! You would think after all these years we would not have war as a means to bring peace and justice. Just pointing out the obvious here. God bless all who have served and are serving. And God bless America. ❤️🙏🏼
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Appreciate that.
@markwheeler202
3 жыл бұрын
You are marvelous storyteller, and especially with this one. Beyond the stories, the cinematography and music add to the solemnity of them. I'll bet your students love you.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I enjoy sharing the experiences.
@garretvaughn7936
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! My uncle lives in Alton, and he has never mentioned anything about this. Thanks for giving us your well researched history of this aspect of the Civil War.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
No problem! Hopefully you can check it out in the future.
@wizardofahhhs759
2 жыл бұрын
Did you ask him? Some people don't know unless asked.
@garretvaughn7936
2 жыл бұрын
@@wizardofahhhs759 The last time I saw him was when I was 6, and he developed Alzheimers and can't really communicate anymore, unfortunately.
@geekazoid1983
3 жыл бұрын
Yooooo! Welcome to my neck of the woods! You should come south a bit and check out Prairie Du Rocher, IL and Fort De Chartres and Fort Kaskaskia from back in the French/indian war time
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
I'll look into that. Thanks!
@sergeantmajorflaremane8831
3 жыл бұрын
Alton Illinois nice I live in Quincy Illinois not sure the mile nor distance but if all u can do is walk from point a to b it's enjoyable get to see more of nature that way and i enjoy learning about the civil war in this timeline because they lucky no covid19 tbh.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a lot of history there.
@mikenixon2401
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, all the years we lived in St. Louis and I missed this historic place just across the river? Thank you for making it known and telling its story. I'm thankful this has not been attacked by the cancel culture movement. Save all of our history. Learn from it. Keep up the great work.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was pleased to see that it hasn't been defaced. Hopefully people share these videos and we can work to move the dial back in a reasonable direction in some small way.
@Mondo762
3 жыл бұрын
This makes me so grateful that my Great Grandfather and his brother survived Rock Island Prison. Although he was never the same, at least he survived. Those were extremely tough times, especially in the South.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think that either side was prepared to deal with the massive influx of prisoners.
@RobinaDunstan
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground yes, especially once the prisoner exchanges stopped. Until then, things were kind of managable.Once they stopped, both sides, especially the Confederates couldn't handle the volume and food became so scarce. Neither side was prepared for this and everyone suffered.
@patrickadams6762
3 жыл бұрын
My great great Grandfather served the last 18 months of the war at Rock Island.
@skimmer8774
3 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Thanks for bringing up that internment would have been a good thing to do.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@micahsomers3251
3 жыл бұрын
Look up Camp Douglas in Chicago.
@micahsomers3251
3 жыл бұрын
Also Elmira in New York.
@micahsomers3251
3 жыл бұрын
He should do a video of both of them. Even though there’s nothing left in Chicago of Camp Douglas.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
You did watch to the end, right?
@micahsomers3251
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I after power came back with internet connection. Sorry.
@micahsomers3251
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t know what there is anything Camp Douglas left except where they buried the Confederate soldiers.
@SiteSeekerSteve
Жыл бұрын
I never comment on KZitem but I felt the need this time. The work you put in to these videos is extremely appreciated by a large if not majority of your viewers. I alone depend heavily on your adventures to get me through my work days. As a man who loves American history you have been my sole provider of new information on old topics. You do an amazing job at out sourcing your knowledge to us and sharing how you found it. Thanks for all you do and it’s unfortunate others have to critique or spew nonsense within the comment section. Keep up the great work!! The revolutionary war series is what I just finished 👌🏼
@TheHistoryUnderground
Жыл бұрын
Dang. Thank you. That really does mean a lot. I appreciate that.
@SiteSeekerSteve
Жыл бұрын
Also if you ever head out to Elmiras Union PoW camp lunch is on me!
@jedbrian1000
3 жыл бұрын
Love your work! You do a lot of stuff around the St Louis area, have you ever thought about making the trip to Vincennes IN to see the George Rogers Clark Memorial, the William Henry Harrison Home and in Lawrence County IL the monument to where Lincoln 1st crossed into IL?
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely hope to get over to Indiana sooner rather than later. Thanks!
@frenchfan3368
3 жыл бұрын
Vincennes, Indiana is also the city that has the noteworthy Indiana Military Museum.
@w.charlesyoung2653
3 жыл бұрын
War rarely brings out the best of us, but it always brings out the worst of us. Civil War POW camps testify to that. Thank you for visiting Alton.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
I was glad to have the chance to visit. Thanks.
@shirleywalker3982
2 жыл бұрын
This all breaks my heart. Their stories need to be told they need to be remembered. No matter how you look at the cival war it was hell and people are people but I guess I mean let there be some kind of forgiveness and some kind of healing
@K.Lovelace1968
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for another piece of interesting History...
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@cynthiacronin2794
3 жыл бұрын
I'm in Missouri. Never knew about this prison. Have been in Alton many times. Many people go there to drive down the great river road. Very interesting.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
I loved driving that road. I need to do it again when the leaves are changing.
@ConChaz100
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground Please do it is beautiful. I was born and raised there. There is also the Love Joy Monument a lot of history about that. And the underground railroad. And the Alton square where Lincoln and Douglas debated. Many other historical places. You have a awesome channel here just subscribed. Thank You so much for doing this I know its a lot of work and time away from family. God Bless You!!!!!
@Rumpleskin
3 жыл бұрын
Be thankful your on the good side of the river. I am also from Missouri and proud to be.the rebels were starving so the union prisoners were also. The union had food but starved the the confederate s anyway.
@BuckeyeBackyardBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
i do alot of cooking and history watching on youtube and this has quickly become one of my top 3 channels on youtube out of every one i follow! always does a wonderful job!
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you! I really do appreciate that :)
@larryphillips6793
3 жыл бұрын
Doing these videos, you obviously do a lot of reading to prepare for your KZitem presentations. Can you tell us what that preparation is like. Does one project lead you to the next project, or do you plan your videos far in advance. It is fun to follow you in your pursuit of history and understanding history.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually going to tackle that question in a video here within the next few weeks. Thanks!
@safety86
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and great advice! Interestingly, a similar wreath appeared at the monument inside Ft. Donelson.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@TimeoffwithCuzinEddie
3 жыл бұрын
Very very very well done! History is History whether we like it or not. It should never be used as a tool to demean others, but to learn from it so the same mistakes aren’t made again. Love the videos!
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I appreciate that. And I completely agree.
@vawterb
3 жыл бұрын
To honor the war dead of the civil war is to honor Americans. Thank you for taking us on this journey.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@JasperJokerII
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if people just got along from the beginning....
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
It would definitely prevent a lot of problems.
@kurtsherrick2066
3 жыл бұрын
If you have ever seen Gettysburg what you said in your comment is cover by Tennessee Prisoners being asked why they fought in the war. They said for their Rights. The Tennessean said it would be better if people lived and let live. The Union Officer looked kinda confused as he gave that some thought. Then they Saluted each other with respect. Saying the common exchange between Confederates and Union Soldiers. " See you in hell Billy Yank! See you in hell Johnny Reb."
@JasperJokerII
3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtsherrick2066 been there dozens of times. Sacred ground to say the least. How many solutions to the world's problems have died on battlefields across the globe?
@Dulcimertunes
3 жыл бұрын
That’s why the Prince of Peace came and gave His life
@Carolbearce
3 жыл бұрын
Well done and sad to hear you were verbally attacked. There will always be haters and that is so sad. I think you do an awesome job delivering these videos. Thank you for the time and effort you put into them.
@Gitarzan66
3 жыл бұрын
Wait! What? There was a war? Man I've been stuck in the house too long. I've read about Camp Douglas on the S.E. side of Chicago but I never knew about this one. What an awful place. Those graves ending up under the water is creepy as heck.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sad story. Glad that the video could bring you up to speed about the war :)
@amysheldon9966
3 жыл бұрын
If you're ever up along Lake Erie stop by Johnson Island it was a union p o w camp
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely want to check that out. Thanks!
@amysheldon9966
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground thank you very much sir that would be wonderful it would also warm my heart if you could do some videos on history of Ohio we have so much history here from the War of 1812 to the Civil War and Beyond
@warrenarmour
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, love this! There will ALWAYS BE BULLIES because they love chaos due to their own situation. The devil is a lion seeking whom he may devour. Angels will always watch over you. Love your show!!!
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@warrenarmour
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground you are welcome. I am sorry for the sermon, but I have been bullied my whole life and I know it hurts.
@pigpaul
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video,thanks for making them.💪🏼💯
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@pigpaul
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground Where is the next history spot??
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
@@pigpaul I'm still trying to figure that out (lol). Every time I pick a place, I find out that it's closed.
@kathym5307
3 жыл бұрын
Some people complain just to hear themselves. Keep up the great work and videos! :)
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@jonbeckman9566
3 жыл бұрын
just like a divorce, there are two sides to a coin. politics and religion always bring out the best in people?
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely good to get all sides to understand the big picture.
@SueGirling68
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, happy new year to you and your family, I hope you have a fantastic 2021. Just ignore those among us that think it's okay to post acidic comments, if they don't like the content then just move along to another channel that is more suited to their intellect. I think your channel has great historical content that is very interesting and informative, just keep doing what you do best and if people don't like then that's their problem as you are doing nothing wrong that I can see. Thank you for all of your hard work and hours spent researching, it is appreciated, much love. xx 🙏💖
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that! I don't let the negative comments get to me. I find most of them amusing.
@SueGirling68
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground 💖
@leenorthcutt8421
3 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that you are one of the most thoughtful historians that I’m proud to follow! History is unkind, but you are always looking at both sides and never judge, you just tell it like it is, or was! Good on you, keep doing what you’re doing!
@justinweaver8787
3 жыл бұрын
Hope you had a good Christmas and a Happy New year. I absolutely love the civil war videos thank you. Have a good week.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that! Thank you.
@justinweaver8787
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground appreciate you.
@copsrobertsokl5127
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you don't but never let anyone tell you what content to put up!! Ignore the haters and just do you never bend to there needs or wants. Love your knowledge and passion for history and it shows in the videos.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Nah, I don't let them bother me. I find it amusing mostly.
@bsmith2511
3 жыл бұрын
You are an awesome person. I wish I would have had you as my history teacher. Thanks making these videos.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏼
@mpaxton8991
Жыл бұрын
We love your history videos and you are a great guide. Please don't let harsh words from the unsatisfied discourage you. History is history, and can't be candy coated or rewritten. I think your sharing these informative videos is very kind and many of us do appreciate it!
@TheHistoryUnderground
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mrDCunningham
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work JD 👍🏻😎
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@rev-mikemckay9750
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Very well done. And, as you often say, Very Interesting! Thanks, keep it up. And, as the philosopher George Santayana wisely said, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". He also said (less widely known) that "Only the dead have seen the end of war". We either learn from history, without trying to change or erase it, or we are doomed to repeat it.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!
@danielparker7018
3 жыл бұрын
Also, look into Camp Dunois. It was the winter home and starting point for Lewis and Clark expedition. It is located just miles from Alton in Wood River. There is a museum and a reconstruction of the stockade fort they used in the winter of 1803.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
I actually looked into that but some of the facilities were closed down due to Covid. Going to try and hit it on a future trip.
@jimscardino2603
3 жыл бұрын
Lots of names on that plaque! Sometimes it’s hard to take in the magnitude of the civil war!
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and to think that those are names from only one camp.
@jimscardino2603
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground agreed just one camp that’s a lot. I learn so much from your videos and what’s out there thanks !!!!
@SandervkHistory
3 жыл бұрын
Really well said at the end! Couldnt agree more!
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@stephaniedenham3171
3 жыл бұрын
There are two wonderful WWII museums in Mississippi. One is in Laurel and one is just south of there at Camp Shelby.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to check those out. thanks!
@trh55
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great episode. Both sides had prison camps with unthinkable conditions, along with the incredible carnage evidenced by four years of war. The more I learn about the American Civil War I am convinced that no military events of today could eclipse what we did while fighting each other.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Unthinkable brutality in that one.
@pierreaucoin2480
3 жыл бұрын
You’re a good man with a good channel, keep doing what you do.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've enjoyed sharing the experiences and learning along with everyone.
@lthom5158
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! The perspective that we should learn from history is sorely lacking in society today. Too many just cast a modern perspective on history or worse just want to erase/rewrite it. Thank you for another great video!!
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. People want to either erase it or weaponize it. Both extremes are dangerous.
@donnakearse2503
3 жыл бұрын
Well done! Thank you. I love Civil War History. 👏👏
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏼
@tinachandler3091
3 жыл бұрын
Well said. Death is the great equalizer. When I taught medical assisting, I had six weeks to look at different wars to see how medicine has advanced and how the practice of medicine was during the time. The only think that irks me about sites like this is that the union dead were marked with permanent markers and the Confederate dead were not. Again at Shiloh, there were trenches of the confederate dead who were not marked. There was always an argument about the Civil War. I had to reduce it to the study of medicine, not whether the North or South were wrong. I hope we never have a want like this again...oh wait, we are
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Gosh, let's hope not. And I'd like to do a video at some point about Civil War medicine. Pretty horrifying ordeal.
@tinachandler3091
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground oh I had a few people who turned pea green about this subject!
@frankscarborough1428
3 жыл бұрын
We should encourage each other and not disparaging simply because we disagree. God bless and take care
@richardduncan7924
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all that you with these videos. I myself have learned a lot from watching these. Unfortunately, not everyone is going to agree with what you video or present. Our history is not all sunshine and rainbows. That war (Civil) is a classic example. And to this day, people still have strong feelings either way. And I guess that's what makes us Americans, I don't know. Just keep doing what you're doing.
@CSltz
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry wrong button. I’ve been watching some of your other videos drummer boy museum Andersonville etc. Have you ever been to the Texas civil war museum in Fort Worth? When I went I was hesitant about it even in the parking lot. I was thinking “What could they have?” Well was I ever surprised! I think that I saw more there than a lot of other places that I’ve been. They even had a southern sniper rifle that was $1000 back then. Can you just imagine. One side was military and a lot of it. The other was dioramas and what the women’s fashions and kids clothes were like. Not as boring as it may sound. If you’re ever in the area you should stop. I was told that it’s a private collection. Wonder what he has at home 🤔
@zacharyking900
Жыл бұрын
In a way you can't really blame the camps in the south, for 3 reasons. Grant stopped prisoner exchanges, leading to the overcrowding. Sherman destroyed the breadbasket of the South, which was the biggest food area for civilian and military. And then there was the US Naval blockade, which denied the importation of food and other stuff. So, by accepting those facts; the North brought the horrors, misery and death on their own.
@DeplorableMe83
3 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled on your video for andersonville and commented that I had just been there and it made me curious about what the other side looked like, I guess now I know, thank you.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@dustyvanbrocklin4731
3 жыл бұрын
Dang wish I would have known you were down in Alton. I live a hour up the road. I used to work in Grafton at the Juvenile Prison.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Oh man. Yeah, I was just passing through. Love that area along the Mississippi. I'd like to do a series one day where I travel the whole length from Minnesota to the Gulf of Mexico.
@dustyvanbrocklin4731
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground an interesting fact in Grafton were the Juvenile Prison is used to be a dairy farm and the first Jersey cattle in the US were shipped there from France. The barn is now the converted to prison cells, the administrative building is the house, and the school/library were the horse stables/farm hand quarters. The property used to be over 2000 acres many of which are now Pere Marquette State park.
@scottharvey9357
Жыл бұрын
As famous last words were said you complete some of the people some of the time but you cannot please all of the people all of the time but keep in mind what you do is very historical and great for us all who cannot find this information nor see these locations, you are doing a great service to us all and we greatly appreciate it keep up the good work and as always you do fantastic work on these history documentaries and will always enjoy watching them and learning things
@adelaidemorningstar1870
3 жыл бұрын
I love all your presentations wherever you go,and I don’t discriminate
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate you watching and for the kind words :)
@daylilygardener6558
3 жыл бұрын
Lived for over 40 years in southern Illinois...never knew about the history in Alton...thanks for your coverage and commentary.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@tanhelmet
2 жыл бұрын
Great and wise parting words. Powerful statements. People do mean stuff to other people. Cain and Abel, Good vs Evil. It's sad to see that the other side of the world is killing its cousin or former neighbor. They serve the same God, eat the same food and speak the same language. In retrospect, I hope to learn from your videos.
@danielparker7018
3 жыл бұрын
My wife's family is from Alton and we (our family) lived there for numerous years. As a previous comment from above, Ft De Chartres has great history from the F &I war. Awesome job, JD.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to check that out. Thanks!
@scuttledog
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@miriambucholtz9315
3 жыл бұрын
Those were some very wise words that you spoke toward the end. The only problem I can see is that it might have been a case of what we used to call preaching to the choir. Those individuals who subscribe to the entitlement mindset are the ones who need to learn from them, and I doubt that they'd even bother to watch a good video like this one.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that. That’s why I hope that people will share out these videos. Perhaps some people will see it and something will click 🤷🏻♂️
@unbreakable7633
7 ай бұрын
The North had no excuse for how it treated Confederate prisoners. The South was blockaded, short on all supplies. The North had plenty yet treated prisoners as badly. The North has no moral high ground about the war at all.
@Legendary_UA
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. My 2x Great Grandfather spent two years as a pow outside Cincinnati. Odd how Alton is called a "military prison" and Andersonville is always referred to as a "POW Camp".
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've wondered about that. I guess that's because Alton was a physical prison with cells and Andersonville wasn't.
@Legendary_UA
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground That's a fair point. Ready to clean Curahee.
@DAGO58
3 жыл бұрын
Simply brilliant. I don't know much at all about the American Civil War, but you have now inspired me to go and read more. Thank you.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks.
@patricialong5767
Жыл бұрын
I've studied Andersonville (yes, it was awful!) but war is awful and it sucks! but history is what it is and war is what it is! The history may not be what we want to hear, but accept it for what it was!
@tommyetaylor
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the gift of history you share.
@JustMe-vi8nx
3 жыл бұрын
I live in the Missouri country across the river from Alton. Alton is a great place. I'm hoping you cover the Lovejoy story while you are in Alton.
@Shawnroberts1980
3 жыл бұрын
You need to remember that you could create the most amazing, educational, life changing video and people would still complain. Your content is awesome which is why I have been a financial supporter since I discovered you. Keep up the great work. I love seeing every notification when there is a new video.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Yeah, some people just need to complain about everything. Appreciate the support!
@jeffzuhone904
2 жыл бұрын
The camp at Elmira, NY is being somewhat preserved and now has a visitors center with quite a collection of artifacts on display. It seems to be the effort of a couple of private individuals who are Civil War Hostory devotees. It's great to see people preserving these stories and items, likely on their own, and having so much information available.
@AndrewSmith-wt2zr
Жыл бұрын
Yeah you ought to come up to Elmira and see all of the Confederate boys that were interred in Woodlawn cemetery. And as a side note all of those young Confederates were interred and families were notified of the location of their deceased loved ones along with their personal belongings gathered and categoried. And this was all done by a man named John Jones who happened to be an escaped slave. Come up here and see for yourself the tragic history of the Elmira prison camp. It said that the camp doctor bragged that he killed more r e b s t h a n Yankee bullets
@waynecarwile7486
Жыл бұрын
Helmira!!
@ronaldsinclair6837
3 жыл бұрын
You hang in there and stay with it. History should never be in question, just recorded truthfully.
@elizabethluther9721
3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your site this week. I was born in 1943 (yep, that old) and have always been interested in American history. Thank you so much for searching out these places. You are being a part of what can start to bring the USA back together with civility toward each other!!!!! Thank you.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad that you’re enjoying the content. Hopefully, the channel is doing some good 🙂
@rchrdjms62
3 жыл бұрын
You go to one spot and say there was only one death of a day. I know for a fact the research I've done before you ever came along is that approximately 30,000 prisoners died in Confederate camps in the south and about an equal number died in the north. So it's disingenuine to go to one spot and say only one death her day. Confederacy could not clothe and feed front-line troops. Yankees could. So what is their excuse for an equal number of their prisoners dying as died in the south? My sources were the Official Records and other books from the eighteen hundreds in the Vanderbilt Medical Library. None were revisionist history books written in the last few years.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that you didn't watch the whole video and listen to everything that I said.
@steveclark4291
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryUnderground I agree this person should go back watch the whole video from start to finish ! Then stop and think about they said here ! Maybe they would regret what they said ! But I doubt from what has been going on lately not just here but around the world !
@outdoorsforever1027
3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. There was a civil war Prison Camp on Johnson’s Island in Lake Erie not far from Put in Bay, Ohio, which is where Oliver Hazard Perry and the US Fleet defeated the British Fleet during the War of 1812. Might be a great trip to take for you, Especially in the summer. Hope to see a video from there in the future.
@20807shane
3 жыл бұрын
nice informative video, neat to learn about our history and to see bits of it. the most bothersome for me is that they just left the dead on the island as if they were nobody. memorial sure, but it makes me thing of when im gone. think ill just be cremated and thrown in the trash, atleast it'll be final and of my choosing.
@christopherlackey1312
9 ай бұрын
My 2nd Great Grandfather, James T. Stroud, CSA diedat Alton Prison from Small Pox on June 13th, 1863. I really appreaciate you docmenting this Union prison.
@cynthiaturner8419
4 ай бұрын
May he RIP
@jspence601
3 жыл бұрын
As a person who's family was in the Civil War and a D A R , I appreciate you sharing History of our country. So much is lost or taken away from History books. Thank you for your time and research. Blessings from Colorado.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for the kind words.
@bobbymiller1414
3 жыл бұрын
Yes we should learn about what we are brother and brother fighting against each other should never happened God bless these people
@dawndickson2156
3 жыл бұрын
It is our history. Prison camps were horrible no matter the side. For what it is worth I am sorry for the negative comments. Sadly those types are everywhere. I have a daughter whose job takes her across this great nation. She has sadly been in areas that call her a yankee because of her home state. Some have been very negative experiences. When did we stop teaching we are a melting pot nation. Am I the only one that remembers school house rock? Keep pressing on young man and thank you. I embrace history and live to learn. Please know there are others that feel the same.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate the kind words. Hopefully these videos serve to help a few people consider history from a different angle.
@steveclark4291
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that your daughter is treated that way ! Sadly I live in Kansas and my state was fought over by both side wanting it be a free or slave state ! So there was a few times up north or down south didn't care much for this flat lander being in their state ! Being there while in my Air Force uniform really shook me up !
@TBNTX
3 жыл бұрын
Learn from history, because history tends to repeat itself. I really enjoy this series. Imagine that people might learn from the past lessons from history.
@TheHistoryUnderground
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate that.
@ninjagirl226
2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to see that a union POW camp still exists. I went to the former site of Camp Douglas in Chicago. If I didn’t have a map saying that I was at the site you would never have known. It’s now an apartment complex. There used to be a sign, but I read after I visited that it was removed. There’s a monument a few miles away, but the city wants it removed last I heard. Sad.
@BrandtW73
2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos. You should do some research on Camp Butler in Springfield,IL. Now a Nat'l cemetery, it originally was a Union training ground and became a notorious POW camp after Ft. Donelson and Ft.Henry battles.
@TheHistoryUnderground
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Got that place on my list.
@jamesschrang3712
3 жыл бұрын
Brother, ignore the ignorant remarks. Continue what you are doing which is providing a service to WE THE PEOPLE and are a real blessing to the country. God bless & CURRAHEE!!!
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