The argument that income determines ability to homeschool is nonsense. My husband and I had 7 kids and made $48K/year. We have never been wealthy, but you make it work when it’s your priority.
@OvalleInspiracion
Ай бұрын
Where do you live?
@MommiLew
Ай бұрын
@@OvalleInspiracionMostly Florida, but also Missouri for 2 years. We’ve been homeschooling for 14 years.
@OvalleInspiracion
Ай бұрын
@@MommiLew Got it. I believe more people can manage their money better and make things works. But we also live in a reality where things have gotten more expensive. Unfortunately it is not feasible for many to home school. For example, my wife and I have two kids under two. I work full time and she works fully remote with both kids at home until my oldest will be at a school next week for his disability. It is crazy expensive in Miami and if she were to not work, my income alone will not suffice. We are planning to leave South FL in two years God willing.
@MommiLew
Ай бұрын
@@OvalleInspiracion We’re from Martin County. It’s not nearly as expensive as Miami, but it’s not affordable either. We live in North Florida now, which is more affordable, but not nearly what I would consider “affordable”. We’re hoping to leave FL for good too, Lord willing.
@OvalleInspiracion
Ай бұрын
@@MommiLew We are thinking about GA or North FL.
@milo_thatch_incarnate
Ай бұрын
As a 24-year-old who was homeschooled K-12 and has been _very_ successful in life so far, I tried to go into this debate open-minded. But it's pretty astonishing that Brewer's main arguments against homeschooling seem to be that #1, parents aren't subject matter experts, so they shouldn't teach their kids. Easily rebuffed by the fact that the vast majority of homeschoolers _don't_ try to be subject matter experts for everything for their kids. They provide them curriculum that IS expert. And #2, that because a small minority of parents abuse their children, he strongly implies that _parents shouldn't be trusted to have their kids at home with them._ He tries to say that's not what he's saying, but it is. And you don't have the right to remove someone's _rights_ because you _think_ that they _might_ do something bad. That's why we need to work on having better _communities_ that would notice signs of abuse. The solution is not to require that all children be mandatorily taken away from their parents and monitored 5-8 hours a day. And the fact that he waffled on whether we should ban homeschooling, AND he said that "kids don't belong to anyone", tells me that he does think that. Children are minors, so their safety and education DO _belong_ to someone. And they should belong solely to the parents unless the parents _demonstrate_ that they can't or won't keep their child safe and educated. And #3, he beats the old and tired "socialization" horse. I grew up around homeschoolers, I was homeschooled, and I'm good at finding other homeschooled adults out there. We are generally BETTER socialized that our public-schooled peers, because instead of being shut in with a bunch of kids our same age all day, we were out experiencing the world and interacting with people of all ages and dispositions, form infants to the elderly. Brewer seems to be arguing sincerely... but these arguments are just so easy to debunk. We homeschoolers hear the same ones again and again and again. There's nothing new under the sun. LOVE your podcast Ellen, especially this second season of awesome debates!
@TMarieAus24
Ай бұрын
I completely agree. My kids all go to public school! I always said wow this looks like a jail why isn’t it opened why aren’t they teaching y’all to plant/grow your own food. They barely have real windows. If he is worried about abuse school is no safe haven for kids. It’s over crowded and breads insecure kids trying to find their way with a bunch of peers that they are scared to be themselves around. Also I think school did the opposite for my middle child who I am pulling out of public school. Socialization is not real in school they are taught to listen to authority and not to question. I am seeing homeschooling is the way to go!!!!
@francinekimaru5653
Ай бұрын
Well said!
@pepsi8967
Ай бұрын
Yes and the argument that some parents may abuse their kids doesn’t stand when that is also a risk in a public school environment as well.
@j.d.4697
Ай бұрын
And you never assumed that you might be just one of the lucky few who didn't get screwed over even harder by homeschooling than schools would have done?
@milo_thatch_incarnate
Ай бұрын
@@j.d.4697 - no, I never considered myself one of “a lucky few“ when _everyone_ I grew up around - which was a lot of people - and almost every homeschooler I’ve known since had a great experience homeschooling. I think the ones who had a terrible education or no education from homeschooling are the ones who are the “not so lucky few”.
@racheln4309
Ай бұрын
I loved attending public school but am homeschooling my kids for SO many reasons. Family culture is what this country is missing.
@Mackeyrose123
Ай бұрын
💯!!!!
@MelissaCaskey-wm7zp
Ай бұрын
Yes. Kids need more time in the family culture, not less.
@mrs.stocky2445
Ай бұрын
I was a public middle school teacher, my husband was a public high school teacher. We started our son out as a homeschooled child and will continue through his high school graduation. He’s 7 now and doing great and has learned so much more than all of his public schooled cousins. We have a solid family environment and a boatload of friends in our two homeschool communities. I’m not opposed to public schools being available and being the best they can be, but I can not support removing our right to homeschool. I do disagree that the village should have oversight within my home because most villages have several idiots. I will expose my son to varying point of view, absolutely 100%, but I will do so in age appropriate ways at the appropriate times. I as his mother and my husband as his father know when that time is.
@Chris-eo5be
Ай бұрын
I have three kids. I started homeschooling when my oldest was tested for gifted and talented in public school kindergarten. He scored above average on the testing, but not quit at the gifted and talented level. You can probably surmise that my son is super smart. He came out of kindergarten not being any better off academically than when he started. Also throughout the whole year, the teacher seemed irritated that I was interested in my son and how he was performing academically. She also seemed irritated that I wanted to be as involved in his academics as I could possibly be. She basically told me if I wanted that much "control" then I should homeschool him. Well I took her advice and I haven't looked back. He graduated high school in 2024, and now he's off to a REALLY good engineering university. He earned a 30K merit scholarship as well. He did great on his SAT, not like, wow, but he did great; over two hundred points more than the average public schooled kid. My middle son will be dual enrolled in the local community college. He'll earn his associates while finishing his high school diploma at home with me. My youngest just started 9th grade and I'll homeschool him until graduation too. He'll also dual enroll in the local community college here. All the homeschoolers I have ever met have children who are academically advanced, well mannered, and are really social. I have not met one kid who has been brainwashed into their parents politics, religion, etc... They, including my kids, have all ended up with their own thoughts and opinions that do vary from their parents. Who do the kids belong to? They don't belong to me; that's true, but they damn sure don't belong to the village. Have you seen the village idiots running around? Nah, I don't want them raising my kids. My kids belong to God, and he entrusted me to take care of these kids, educate them, and love them. To all the naysayers, mind your own kids and your own business. I think if people put as much effort into their homes as they put into my home or in my choices, their kids and their life would be so much better.
@charcW8850
Ай бұрын
I’m a mum of 5 and was terrified to homeschool but two years into it and I am soooo glad I took the leap. I love being around my kids now(during public school they seemed moody and rude) we only spend about 3 hours doing actual school and they are ahead of many kids their age. The rest of the time they play outside, create things and read. We don’t do video games and try to limit screen time. I feel like they have a childhood similar to mine and they love it as much as I did
@StrollinSodaPops
17 күн бұрын
I am 100% with you on everything you said. Private school was not meeting my child’s needs and now I can. Our relationship is so different. Praise God!
@MelissaCaskey-wm7zp
Ай бұрын
My kids attend a hybrid private school, so are at home two days a week and at school the other 3. I will endeavor to not send my kids to public school for many reasons, but one of those is that it seems parental rights have disappeared. It is a parents right to determine if and when their children are introduced to certain sensitive topics, it is not the job of teachers. Respect the parents and then we can talk.
@michaelawest6939
Ай бұрын
Our family is considered low income, and we homeschool! It’s a choice for priority rather than whether or not you can actually afford it
@aimee4998
Ай бұрын
My dad is both: a professor and a homeschool dad. As a homeschooler, I graduated college and was a public high school teacher for a few years before having my first child, who I will homeschool.
@nellieg1027
Ай бұрын
I've seen that alot. Teachers who homeschool their children.
@gwenpierson7340
Ай бұрын
@aimee4998 , can you please explain to me how your dad did. And how did you feel about him teaching others at school and you at home..
@elizabethbyleryounts
Ай бұрын
Performing surgery is not what we are doing as homeschoolers. That’s ridiculous. Relearning algebra or geometry (or whatever upper maths or sciences) or finding a teacher/tutor to do so is not surgery.
@TheStatusIsNotQuo799
Ай бұрын
Or realizing if you have to relearn it, maybe everyone doesn’t need it. Only kids who are gearing up for certain careers.
@elizabethbyleryounts
Ай бұрын
@@TheStatusIsNotQuo799 there’s definitely an argument for that. However, we still follow standards and requirements that most colleges would like to see on transcripts for many core class choices.
@mamasadembou3604
Ай бұрын
I don't even think the professor is really arguing that public education is the best quality of education; just that it is the most equal for all students. When he asks interested/good parents to leave their kids in schools to keep schools in check, he's basically asking us to sacrifice our children's education for the "group" - so that everyone gets an equal lesser outcome..
@ReallyMartha
11 күн бұрын
That's exactly what "equity" truly ends up becoming. Yes, usually the intentions are good BUT in reality, you do sacrifice for the group; the "greater good".
@awilson8521
Ай бұрын
Reasons to homeschool at least k-6th: 1. Cost effective (losing 35-50k year factored into the equation.) 2. Faster (smaller transition times, more timely feedback with small group instruction, easier to adapt lessons to individual) 3. Philosopically coherent with family values (specifically, important for k-6th) 4. Avoids negative peer pressure (other family vices influence your children, which can be avoided) 5. No expertise is needed. Any parent that has graduated high school/ged can homeschool k-6th (and arguably 7-12th as well) without a college degree in the subject. And the professor has it backwards. It is a parents job to educate. The parents can hire teachers (public school included) to teacher their children instead, but it is still the parents responsibility. It is not the state's responsibility. They are hired by the parents.
@stephanieengell5344
Ай бұрын
Both debaters seemed to agree that change in the public school system was needed. My question is; if we are truly concerned about doing what is best for the child, why would we continue to have them in a system that desperately needs fixing until things ‘gradually get reformed’?
@Anacaona92
Ай бұрын
For me it’s the socialization that my son gets with his peers at school. Learning how to navigate the real world is not something that can be replicated at home. But that doesn’t exempt parents from teaching their children at home and either getting involved in local school to inspire changes or supplementing at home what the system in school lacks. So I, for example, have a hybrid approach. I have a home lesson plan with my 10 year old where we learn a new word a day (and about the etymology), he writes a few sentences implementing 5 words we have learned. Then we either read an article from The Week Junior, learn something science related, or read a chapter of our book and have a discussion. And we end with philosophy quotes or a trivia game or fun fact etc. and in between there is history exploration etc I find that getting both school and home education gives him an advantage. There are social skills and learning how to simply behave and manage school (it’s like college training) that I can’t replicate at home. My son has been teased by student that say things like “if you’re so much better because you get homeschooled why are you here?” That’s because my son had to learn how to not want to answer all the questions he already knew in school and how to stop annoyingly talking about “homeschool” (essentially develop social skills). Now he gets friends call him for help with homework. Idk it may not be the correct way but it works for us and his video game time is naturally reduced. Between school, boxing, “homeschool” and math tutor he is always busy. Also the bonding. He says I teach him quicker what takes a day to learn in school 😂 and he always has something to relate philosophy quotes to because he is developing his own life and experiences outside home.
@DK-tq3fy
Ай бұрын
@@Anacaona92I never tell people they have to homeschool. But what you are saying just isn’t true. Public school kids learn to socialize primarily with kids their own age. My kids socialize with children of all ages. They regularly interact with kids their own age as well. They can speak confidently to adults. Public school has been around for only about a century. People weren’t unsocialized before public school became the norm. Again, you don’t have to make the same choices as me. Just know the socialization issue is really just a talking point for people who do not understand home education.
@Anacaona92
Ай бұрын
@@DK-tq3fy I was replying politely on my perspective and what works for me because of the way the question was phrased (why send a kid to school despite needs of improvement). I thought it was a genuine question to see what other parents think. Like I said it may not be the correct way (don’t think there is one; either approach could work depending on the parents effort) For me him socializing with kids his age is important, not just for a short period. Things like learning how to behave in a school setting, test taking, homework and how it builds up over time and requires more responsibility. Learning how to interact with a teacher that is awesome and later one that is tough. That way college is not a culture shock. The reality is either approach can be great or bad depending on the parent. I work with people who have Ivy League college, public school, homeschool education and they can each be successful. I particularly remember one guy who was extremely smart and in college didn’t have to do any of the readings because he knew all the war history (gvt class). He was homeschooled and luckily loved reading. So he joked how he was homeschooled, which essentially meant go to the library and read (parents didn’t really teach). his social skills were a little unique but he is a success story because he self-taught. What I’m saying is not all parents are equipped to teach. For me I like that my son gets the fundamentals at school and I supplement and expand. I also teach him values that he gets to test out in the real world. He doesn’t always want to read or do a lesson with me but countless times he says how he is so lucky I care and push him compared to his friends. And it opens up soooo many conversations at home about his experiences outside. And he simply loves school, his friends etc. so for me full time homeschool doesn’t work. For most parents it doesn’t because of lack of involvement. But some great ones can and of course provide better education than school. And some kids, like the guy I mentioned, may do even better learning alone, doesn’t mean all kids should be put in that path. It’s not a talking point for me, it’s my perspective. School could also be condensed into a shorter time but I like that he learns what it’s like to be at “work” all day with responsibilities. And I am that parent that puts him in afterschool programs (includes boxing days). Neighborhoods matter too. I’m in a city not the suburbs so him at the age where he can start walking to the park to meet god knows who…I prefer to keep him engaged with school and programs.
@Anacaona92
Ай бұрын
@@DK-tq3fy also to answer another thing. A century ago kids were also working, growing up fast and interacting with adults in ways that are unacceptable by today’s standards. So yes they socialized before; the environment today is just different. For better or worse I personally believe (again my personal take) that being out in the real world and its institutions is important to learn to navigate. Doesn’t mean not still teaching and guiding at home. After all home is the first school. It sounds like you have a good structure though where your kid socializes and is not just home. I mean during Covid to many kids fell behind just home learning in their own. So not all kids are lucky to have you as a parent and your skills.
@sakinahaidar116
Ай бұрын
Homeschooling isn't about a trend or random choice, it is all about your parenting goals and priorities in life as a parent. Me as a Montessori Directoress preferred my kids to be educated at home in natural way rather than sending them in any Montessori or a public school. I love "education" in it's real meaning like learn by your will instead of memorizing some life facts being taught forcefully outside the real life context. I love my kids learn life skills through concrete experience, exploration and natural scenarios that a school can not provide them.
@31lauramitchell
Ай бұрын
My degree is in early childhood education and I’ve homeschooled for 9 years after deciding that the public school environment was not developmentally appropriate anymore. Man are my eyes open now. There are SO many problems with the public school model.
@happy9249
Ай бұрын
Yes, the parents have the right to teach their children, their beliefs and their beliefs alone. They are their parents. It's the parent's right to indoctrinate their children with their beliefs and their values. No different than the government indoctrinating children with their beliefs in public schools.
@lucianas4919
Ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this topic Ellen. I wish I had been homeschooled, I hated school for so many reasons, and how the entire system functioned. While I did have some wonderful teachers, I was miserable in school. To make it worse, I was bullied mercilessly and only had one friend.
@gwenthemilkmaid
Ай бұрын
I’m overwhelmed by the idea of homeschool but it also terrifies me to send my kids to a public school that teaches gender ideology. In Canada, the schools can start transitioning your kid without telling you. And then, if you decide to not affirm this transition, the government can take your kid away… that is my biggest worry and why I will be homeschooling!
@emmagillette6249
Ай бұрын
Kids can't transition medically without parent consent....
@gwenthemilkmaid
Ай бұрын
@@emmagillette6249 In Canada they can! There have been plenty of cases already. It's probably not the same in other countries (hopefully).
@annewithane7876
Ай бұрын
To offer some encouragement - I grew up homeschooled and it's been crazy to see how much easier it has gotten for homeschooling parents over time. Because it's more popular, there are way more resources. It's possible to get all your curricula for free if you want. There are many more opportunities for homeschoolers to get social interaction with each other too
@mackenziemeyer1937
Ай бұрын
They just made that legal in California too@@emmagillette6249
@susieare
Ай бұрын
Overwhelmed home schooling mum here... ITS SO WORTH IT!! It takes time to wrap your head around it all, work out a rhythm and what/how you would like to teach... and it's an ever moving target, but you can tailor it to your kids and family. Today we went and picked hazel nuts and then drew them for nature study... it was lovely and educational! There are so many brilliant free resources out there, as well as wonderful communities of like minded mums on the same journey :) And my kids are in our family culture, not the wider culture you're so rightly worries about. Take it easy, kids learn no fast and don't need masses of lessons from a young age. Enjoy their childhood. My favourite home school philosophy is Charlotte Mason. I think the way she thinks about education is just phenomenal!
@kathycosme6213
Ай бұрын
I never see anyone in the comments advocating for public schools. I think this man know, given the rising number of children being homeschooled today (over 5 million), he wont have a job in 5-10 years if he doesn't lie about public schools being the best option for kods. Most parents I've talked to would consider homeschooling but feel they aren’t qualified. Geez, I wonder who put that in their heads? The answer: public school.
@CH-gn7rf
Ай бұрын
Homeschooling ALL THE WAY 😊
@nikicollins5809
Ай бұрын
As a homeschool mom who wished I was homeschooled as a child, thank you for providing a space for this discussion!
@courtneyendicott1832
Ай бұрын
Connecticut: my immediate thought was, "How many of those reports were unfounded?!?!" What kind if a crazy person would send their kid back to a school where someone reported their family for abuse?!! OF COURSE a bunch of them pulled their kid out and started homeschooling! What year were these numbers from? Because if it was in the last few years, they could be being reported for refusing to let their 12 yr old take irreversible puberty blockers! 🙄
@tristanjacobson
Ай бұрын
I’m now homeschooling full time & I believe homeschooling is so much better🙌🏼
@lucianas4919
Ай бұрын
Agree
@j.d.4697
Ай бұрын
Good for you, remember to teach them how to flip burgers and how not to drop the soap.
@tristanjacobson
Ай бұрын
@@j.d.4697 if I ever need a professional for that I’ll send someone to you🙂 definitely won’t be my kids though! Keep your negative bs somewhere else weirdo.
@mgracie8129
Ай бұрын
I'm assuming this is a poke at the fact they will end up in the fast food industry... Which is funny as most people that are currently working in fast food are school educated... Degrees don't mean shit anymore unless you're a doctor etc. in the UK most fast food workers get paid more than those in the NHS. @@j.d.4697
@gambunyakiatpetri8588
Ай бұрын
Dr. Brewer is trying hard to convince us that public school is essential and beneficial. However, everything he said only reinforced the reasons why we don't want our child in public school. I do appreciate his efforts, though.
@BeksWorld
Ай бұрын
Homeschool all the way. It doesn’t matter how much $ you have. You just figure it out. My 2 kids have said over & over they are so thankful for homeschooling. And their public school friends feel the same way. My kids want to homeschool their kids some day too!
@melissabigelow7799
Ай бұрын
Yes! I was homeschooled as a child and attended public school and Christian school. In both public and Christian school I suffered from bullying and in the public environment I had no support from educators whatsoever. I suffered severely emotionally/mentally and developed anxiety and depression which lead to extremely poor life choices. I so wish my parents had homeschooled me right through. It took me so many years in my adult life to heal, and I am now a single mother who has made great financial sacrifices to homeschool my two children and I won’t have it any other way. I get to give them the beautiful life and opportunities that I longed for as a child and it is the most fulfilling thing.
@melissajdelacruz
Ай бұрын
@@melissabigelow7799 I'm a single mother and I am considering taking a leap of faith to homeschool as they will be entering their grade school years and have been advised that Christian private school arent any better than public schools. 🥴
@SonyaOutThere
Ай бұрын
The socialization argument in support of the public school system is such bull$h!+. You’re socialized into the worst things at school.
@denniscwarren
Ай бұрын
I remember in 3rd grade (30+ years ago) when I was taught in public school that the ice caps will melt, our populations will explode and our oil would be gone in 20 years… such a great way to teach kids how to embrace the future.
@jasonsomers8224
Ай бұрын
Brewer has convinced me that Public Education is a valuable institution in our society for parents who do not feel qualified or capable of home education. Beaudreau has furthered my conviction that homeschooling is a more effective style of education for training children to be good people. To some extent they were talking past each other. Especially seen in Brewer's point about abuse. I'm not concerned about societal policy, but about personal upbringing. I know I'm not going to abuse, so why does it matter to the question.
@mariedyangelina
Ай бұрын
Our decision as parents to homeschool our children has nothing to do with the school curriculum, it's not about them not liking the math or science they're taught. It's about all the things that most schools are including that have absolutely nothing to do with teaching and learning for a child. That's the problem with today's educational system in America!
@amoleis61023
Ай бұрын
Sounds like we should do away with property taxes...😂 this is not even a debate. How do we fix society? START WITH YOUR OWN FAMILY!!
@ReallyMartha
11 күн бұрын
Careful! If you're anything like the people in my area they're gonna say you hate kids because you don't wanna be taxed out the wazoo 😂
@Rjmaaske
Ай бұрын
Oof. In regards to the public school setting. It should not mirror a working schedule. Unless you’re saying so because the parents need to work and they need somewhere for their children to go. If that’s the case, you’re looking for childcare, not education. Our bus for our local school arrives at 6:30 in the morning and doesn’t bring the kids back until 4:30 in the afternoon. That is for all ages. I can’t speak for everywhere, but I don’t think my kids would retain anything past lunch if that was their schedule.
@laurapenaranda1684
Ай бұрын
I appreciate your comment. As a homeschooling mom who’s had no homeschool experience before having kids, it encourages me when I hear homeschooled adults share their experiences. I agree this debate was really for or against homeschool. It didn’t really touch on the pros of public schools. I’m not sure if that was intentional but it ended up being more focused on the homeschool side and there was no real/valid argument against homeschooling. In the debate, Brewer may have found more success if he advocated or shared his passion for public school rather than just “playing defense” the whole time.
@ReallyMartha
11 күн бұрын
He tried to touch on the pros, but he also admitted that the promises that people hope public school provides is something that public school has never been. Around the 31:00 mark: "I conceive of public education as the best possible way for the most amount of good for the most amount of students. It has that promise. I think it's fair to say that public school has never really lived up to that promise. Particularly along racial lines, particularly along class lines..." Then later at around 48:00 he says "we've said this a couple times, I think that public schools have the current practice and capacity to stifle creativity, squashed natural inquisitiveness of children saying 'oh, that's not on the test. interesting question that's not on the test, don't worry about it'..." Even the advocate for public school admits multiple times that the public school is failing and lacking, and ultimately damaging. What pros could he submit that wouldn't make him sound like a total hypocrite?
@Crowderchowder689
Ай бұрын
Wearing a trans bow tie is enough of a argument against public schooling
@TheStatusIsNotQuo799
Ай бұрын
I’m a homeschooling parent, but an adult who teaches other adults can support other adults in making the choices they’re free to make as adults.
@danslatetededidi3868
Ай бұрын
Matt Beaudreau is someone I need to hear from time to time just to get back on the track of why I homeschool. Love this conversation. 🙏🏻
@MsPants1632
29 күн бұрын
As a person who grew up “in the norm” I raised my kids that way. Public school, formula fed. Went through all the vaccines… As I got older I really started to regret many things. I wished I would have been more knowledgeable about the vaccines. About breast feeding. About homeschooling. Thankfully I “woke up” before 2020 and all the crazy stuff that happened, I was so much more involved in anything that happened with my kids. All that to say, I’m so happy that Ellen is bringing so many topics out in the open so parents can realize that there are more than just the one way “norm” to raise your kids. And this video in particular is sooo helpful!! ❤
@mgracie8129
Ай бұрын
My daughter is 4 and she should be starting school this September. Shes not, we are in the uk which means home education is actually the first option for education. You have to opt into school if you can not or will not home educate. My daughter would not cope in our local schools, they are over crowded and the teachers aren't up to scratch tbh (they are leaving in drones) im a single mum who started a business so i could do this, i don't make even the average income for a single person. We have a multi generation household as house prices and prices in general are too high. This way my mum gets help and so do I in a high demanding society. I have no hate for people that send their children to school and im yet to receive hate for home educating. Most people say they dont blame me or say good for you.
@Fangirloffiction
Ай бұрын
As much as I appreciated and loved school when I was a kid and I also thought my homeschooled relatives were weird, now as an adult, I think the homeschooled got a better end of the deal. Thinking about it especially through the lense of college, why do I need to go through General Education classes, which were just the same classes I took as a senior in Highschool and instead just went straight to the classes that I was actually interested in. It like I paid for re-education of something I already learned to be able to get to the classes that I actually wanted to learn. And because I did those classes I ended up dropping my double major because my counselor convinced me that I wouldn’t graduate on time if I kept it. Make me think I shouldn’t have dropped it and also that I could have graduated on time if I hadn’t wasted it on those basic classes. It just convinces me that if I can make homeschool an option for my kids and they have a love for it, I’m going to try and make sure they skip the bs and get straight to what they want to do.
@michelegioffredo8811
Ай бұрын
Homeschool period. There's no contest.
@charissadubin9355
Ай бұрын
If public schools adopted the Montessori approach, they would produce many of the outcomes that both of these educators desire ❤
@beheshtah.3091
Ай бұрын
I agree. However, this approach is very challenging to educators, especially in the zoo-sized classrooms of 25+ children. Here in Canada, they’ve even gone as far as to combine 2 grades together. Half the day is spent in just “managing“ the children and in keeping them in order. If more people choose to homeschool and the classroom sizes become smaller, this approach may be doable, but it requires extra training (and I’m saying this as someone who has several teachers inthe family, and a relative working in a Montessori daycare)
@charissadubin9355
Ай бұрын
@@beheshtah.3091 I completely agree! I think overcrowded classes are one of the biggest issues with our education system, and solving just that would have a huge impact.
@lifewithginab
Ай бұрын
Such a great topic!! Watching/hearing now 🎉 6th year homeschooling... (I live in Canada) I met with several moms this year who want to homeschool... her kids are 3 to 4 years behind grade level... schools are just passing the kids. They were shocked to know that one of her boys that is in 6th grade is at a 1st grade level... she only found out by doing tests her self. I'm sorry but the education system is failing our kids academically... I am not even talking about the other things... like kids identifying as cats and litter boxes at a public school in our town... and yes the litter is for the kids. Unfortunately, education system is just going down hill. Not sure how it is in the States. And it's not the teachers fault. There are some amazing teachers but funding is not there, the agenda is completely different these days. Homeschooling was the best decision we've ever made.
@la4828
Ай бұрын
I had finally took the leap to HS our now middleschooler and 1st grader.. (we are from the US) and how our kids are just so much more calmer, happier, less stressed, more focused and NOT DISTRACTED are just some of the benefits i have been seeing in them. Public school system (and tbh even in the private schools) they usually just care more on the stats of the schools Not The wellbeing of the children. The only adults that will really care for the well being of your kids- are YOU as parents. Also take in consideration that a lot of stories from parents who had homeschooled their kids became true proud parents- Read so many testimonies of homeschooled children who were successful in their areas of expertise when they turned adults, would never doubt that the focus and stress free education in their primary years prepared them to their adult-tasks. Don’t care about other’s opinions, I see the great benefits of homeschooling. It is the way to go.
@BlessedHopeBrenda1991
Ай бұрын
Hey Gina! I just recommend someone on this stream to watch ur youtube channel. She made a comment of being overwhelmed by the decision there in Canada to homeschool so I pointed her in ur direction. Great to see you on this important subject. Love watching you and the kids, especially ur son. I think its completely amazing of you giving your curriculum to help new family. One day can you do a video how you keep up with grading assignments and having the child do corrections? I've been grading on weekends and then having the corrections done Monday morning but it pushes us back on schedule so I'm not liking that system. Any advice would be welcomed.
@angelinagutierrez909
Ай бұрын
Team homeschool! 🙌🏻
@gracerobertson5923
Ай бұрын
My two cents: he is so aware of the issues within the education system, and yet still advocates for us to put our children in it/borderline wants it to be illegal to not. Why would we want that when we know how flawed it is and we can do better. Fixing the education system is not something I see happening, but I dang sure wouldn’t put my kids in it knowing it needs to be fixed and really hasn’t even addressed what parts of it are broken (all of it) my kids aren’t there to fill spaces until the government learns to get it right.
@ReallyMartha
11 күн бұрын
"My two cents: he is so aware of the issues within the education system, and yet still advocates for us to put our children in it/borderline wants it to be illegal to not." Exactly my takeaway. It's pretty dang unsettling.
@ShaniSunshine
Ай бұрын
your debate topics are the best! grateful for this conversation & podcast ❤️
@jessicaloveridge2759
Ай бұрын
My funny things is that school is just as restrictive in what it teaches as parents are. The biggest difference is when kids are homeschooled they don’t usually grow to hate learning the way many do in the school system. This coming from someone who was homeschooled, then attended high school and college, worked at a school with special needs children, and am now homeschooling my three children.
@Courtney11886
Ай бұрын
Homeschooling all the way ❤
@christa2891
Ай бұрын
A lot of people have the stereotype that homeschooled children aren’t well educated and/or socialized. Something I found interesting is up until recent years 75-90% of homeschooled children were raised by evangelical Christians. Many of these kids were taught many incorrect things due to their religious beliefs (ex: the Earth is 6,000 years old). Additionally, they mainly socialized in small groups of other evangelical homeschoolers. I think these largely contribute to today’s stereotypes of not being highly educated or socialized. Nowadays, homeschooling is much more diverse and not solely evangelical dominated so while they may have held some truth, these stereotypes are highly outdated at this point in time.
@CJrunner7199
Ай бұрын
Creationism makes a lot more logical sense to me than a giant explosion out of nowhere. Many of the scientific theories of the day are treated as facts when they are not. They are theories that were created by people that wanted to erase God from the picture. Everything in nature denotes there is a god. The complexity of life is astounding. And scientific principles back up the fact that matter isn't created from nothing, nor does it become increasingly complex as it breaks down. We also have no way to prove that carbon dating is accurate. It is fine to disagree and believe what you want, but it is not outdated to believe in God. It is using logic and a spiritual sense that some refuse to acknowledge. You can't prove God's existence; nor can you prove God's non existence. And you never will, because that was designed to require faith. I don't know how God created the earth or if he did it in six days that match our current days. But I believe God to be the greatest scientist of all and the only one with all the answers.
@Jessie90ish
Ай бұрын
I was public schooled. I went into this having already listened to a podcast or 2 with the man who is pro homeschool, so I was hoping to hear some solid positives about public. It was a very disappointing debate. He essentially argued that public school has a place in society because not everyone can do better than this very sad excuse for an education. K… not exactly swaying my opinion. No one is saying get rid of public education. Obviously society needs it. But let’s do better? Please? Major overhaul required.
@kkrenken895
Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I didn’t hear a single good argument for public school. And the argument that parents should keep their kids in bad schools for the sake of other people’s children is preposterous.
@jenna7990
Ай бұрын
I homeschool but I’ve always taken issue with the implication that homeschool=critical thinkers. First of all, to some degree that is a personality trait and it seems like what happens is parents that are thinking more critically about school systems opt out and then assume that because they think that way their kids will lean that way as well. Again, I think the chances of being a critical thinker are potentially higher for homeschool but I’ve also seen moms double down on compliance once they start homeschooling given that educating 3+ children is a very overwhelming, albeit rewarding, experience. In debates like this it often goes as an unchallenged assumption and at a minimum I think homeschoolers should explain HOW they are developing critical thinkers.
@daysofage
Ай бұрын
I suspect there are trolls trashing homeschooling in comments here. But here's the thing and i wish the homeschool dad would have made this point, because it was begged from the government school speaker about vouchers: Government money brings strings. And *tempts* bad people to homeschool who would not have without that lucre incentive. We are hearing a lot about school choice and funding homeschool and i think it's a bad idea that is trapping too many parents. Another idea that was not examined enough was the double incomes using gov school as free babysitter... Why should we not means test government school? Those who can, homeschool. As long as we don't subsidize them, there should be no reason to suspect bad intentions.
@daysofage
Ай бұрын
One more idea to consider with respect to gargantuan school budgets is a comparison to nutrition. We have soup kitchens which take care of the poorest, but we who have the means wouldn't think of showing up in a soup kitchen to drain their resources. If those who could, homeschooled, the public budgets would become miniscule, returning a lot of money to taxpayers. Yes, there might be more unemployed teachers, but then, maybe *they* could homeschool!
@alyssamurphy2002
Ай бұрын
Yaaas. Don't subsidize Homeschool. Curriculum doesn't have to be expensive. A library is free.
@Rootsofgrace
Ай бұрын
We are low income and home educate. All the other homeschoolers I know are also low income. It’s a great financial sacrifice to home educate. We live in a failing school district. We support our local teachers, but there’s a huge parenting issue in our community. There has to be a solution, but we have chosen for our children not to be part of finding out what that solution is.
@ChalkboardCreativeHomeschool
Ай бұрын
I love that the the pro-public school advocate basically agreed that public school is essentially babysitting. Other than giving up two incomes he had no rebuttal again home education. I will say that the majority of homeschoolers make $60k or below-they’re not higher incomers , so he was wrong about that, like many of his other points. He agreed that standardized testing was a poor measure of student learning, but then touted it as the only way to assure mastery when he discussed his displeasure that home education doesn’t need testing to prove student competencies. Dude, like you’re speaking out of both sides of your mouth. Basically, he made the argument for homeschooling 😂😂 poor guy-every point-easily debunked.
@ReallyMartha
11 күн бұрын
And admits multiple times that public school has never lived up to the promises that public school touts!
@kkrenken895
Ай бұрын
We might not have great statistics on homeschooling but we have almost nothing but statistics for public schools, and they are dismal at best. Get your own ducks in a row before you start judging other people’s choices.
@arroyoj4385
Ай бұрын
The rates of “inappropriate misconduct” is actually higher at public schools. So whatever he thinks they are “catching” probably most likely to happen at school then home.
@LoreneDibble-nx5df
Ай бұрын
Where there's a will to homeschool there is a way no matter the income.
@MTASAHM
Ай бұрын
The idea that public educators can teach students better is insane to me. With teachers retiring and a teacher shortage in most places what you have is inexperienced teachers making up a larger portion than they ever have. I’m experienced with my child’s strengths and weaknesses as a homeschooling parent and I’m able to adapt quickly as we move along. You can’t adapt quickly for 30 students and little teaching experience. Then even those teachers with the experience have their hands tied because of bureaucratic red tape. Some of this interview I felt like the pro public school person hadn’t met many homeschoolers and the few he did, judged the whole community by them.
@_Cortney-
Ай бұрын
Why must we all homeschool, make sourdough, and live on a farm to be good parents? The homeschool guy is always going to win because he can talk about three kids and focus on three kids while the other guy is trying to help millions of kids. The people watching this are doing okay enough to consider homeschooling the rest of the population is trying to get by. Do what’s best for your family and your children. That may mean that they all do different types of schooling.
@corbincovher2367
Ай бұрын
No one learns how to set a bone in high school. Homeschool is largely k-12.
@Truth2Eyes
Ай бұрын
Look up Headmistress Katharine Birbalsingh. She has the best school in the UK and try to build more schools and the gov shuts her down everytime. So its disingenuous to say that its possible in public school by asking for it. She is a rare case of great public schools
@milo_thatch_incarnate
Ай бұрын
Yep. The real crux of the issue is that the way a child is educated and disciplined will ALWAYS be a question of which ethics and morals are right. How you discipline a child especially, aka either as a sinner in need of guidance and training or a good person who needs to be let alone to do whatever they want. Those two fundamentally opposed viewpoints completely change how you raise a child. And because the world is mostly controlled by left-leaning atheists right now, anyone trying to form a public school around Christian principles, like Headmistress Katharine Birbalsingh, get shut down.
@StrollinSodaPops
17 күн бұрын
Our country needs more programs like the ESA program that Arizona has right now. It allows funding for children with disabilities, for private school, for home education. There is oversight and rules so the families are accountable and the public schools still come away with the federal portion of funding, even for children that never set foot in their establishment. It allows families to have opportunities for a higher quality of education that they could have not provided for their child on their own. Private school and home education families also pay taxes and I think that it is only just that their children should benefit from this system also.
@kerrionalucas4363
Ай бұрын
What is wrong with the professors voice? He sounds like he's sick & it made it hard to understand him at times
@Vamusika
29 күн бұрын
I just couldn't focus on anything he was saying 🥴
@MsPants1632
29 күн бұрын
It reminds me of RFK’s voice. He has an injury, so maybe that is it? It was a tad distracting at first, but I really listened closer once I realized. Either way, he couldn’t help it… That said, I’m not the biggest fan of public school. And this coming from a mom who has 4 kids who have gone through and (2) are still (almost done) public school.
@SarahR2D2
Ай бұрын
A majority of public school students cannot read. How can you look at homeschool to criticize it when your alternatives is literally on fire
@MMyers-mh4jq
Ай бұрын
we have to take in consideration that education back then and the 70s and 80s is totally different than what education is today. There’s too much politics in the classroom too per the idea for the individual education plan for accessibility for kids with disabilities right why we have that it’s not being withheld and supported correctly within the school systems. Teachers are not properly trained for students with ADHD. They’re not properly trained for kids who have More extreme learning difficulties and we’re having more issues with these in the classroom and in the school setting
@SaidWhatISaid29
Ай бұрын
There was not enough push back in this interview. You can have a discussion but nothing was defined, and there was too much dancing around topics.
@carly.taylor42
Ай бұрын
Such a valuable conversation 👏🏼
@racheln4309
Ай бұрын
Love the McDonald’s analogy
@susanbaity2350
Ай бұрын
Awesome job Ellen! You are sooo relevant! Thank you for tackling amazing content: homeschooling, stay at home moms, womanhood, marriage. Love it!
@kkrenken895
Ай бұрын
You should also be asking if public school is optimal for any child. Look at public school proficiency levels. I hear from parents every day that their kids are being bullied at school. Or that their kids who have IEPs are not getting the services the schools are supposed to provide. The teachers are fine. The system is broken.
@C_X_L812
Ай бұрын
I was a product of public school and went to college and finished with an advanced degree. I choose to homeschool both of my kids. One is now in 12th grade (taking full-time college courses since 11th grade) and my youngest is now in 9th. They learn differently and have different interests. I can tailor their experiences around them and allow them to move as fast they want to or slow down as they need to. I would not trust my children's education to the public school system with the Dept. of Education and the teacher's unions.
@MsFontenot
Ай бұрын
Please add a transition before your promotions. It would prime viewers for the switch and make for a more enjoyable experience. I really enjoy your content!
@WinterHamie
Ай бұрын
I love your videos but this one stood out to me because I’m a training teacher and this topic is so interesting, I’d love to home school my own children x
@amyradtke169
Ай бұрын
Those vague statistics on abuse....in the homeschooling population...with no actual background numbers....a filed complaint...doesn't necessarily mean abuse either it could be so many things. But honestly I've hears that statistic exactly the other way many many times. the most likely place for a child to be abused is within the school system....and given the percentage of more children that go to the public school system that makes sense. Children are way more likely to be abused by not their parents then by their parents that's statistically factual across the world....of course there is outliers but thats not the most likely culprit. like what in the world...he just throws that casually out there...wow...wow. he doesn't believe in parental rights aka he doesn't believe in children's rights. I just can't even finish this podcast after that manipulated "statistic"
@OliveSunshine248
Ай бұрын
I wonder if the professor is for a progressive collective society. I see the public education pushing for that.
@lisag9442
13 күн бұрын
In making a decision to home school we never considered the opportunity cost from loss of income. As our education has greater impact than a dollar, no value can be placed on our children. Also here to say we have done it on one income but have up vacations and lived frugally.
@maddy-zzz
Ай бұрын
This is not relevant to the debate, but I enjoy Dr. Brewer's bow tie :D
@brat7776
Ай бұрын
How many of those reports were unfounded? He skimmed over that, but he didn’t provide that number. The government needs to stay out of family business unless it's actually warranted. Abuse certainly does happen at the public school & to public school children. Bad argument.
@gwenpierson7340
Ай бұрын
Based on what I heard, mr Jameson (the professor) has failed to sell me the real benefit of public schools with the -lack of dedicated & knowledgeable teachers - rise of aggression in classes - loss of teachers' authority -lack of focus on real core subjects such as english / maths / science - rise in unnecessary ideological subjetcs such as sexual courses, LGBTQ agenda etc.. But Mr Beaudreau ( the homeschool speaker) successfully managed to explain why it is truly needed because the education system is not meeting society/business needs and taking away parents' rights. My kids are going to public school full time but they are aldo being homeschooled by me every morning before & afternoon after school + over the weekend. I want them to fully understand the world we're living without falling for its traps. I thank the teachers who are doing a fantastic job in such a demanding environment and invite those who can't teach to leave the profession and find themselves because they are wasting the kids' time & their own.
@ChrystalFitness
Ай бұрын
Soooo….even though we all went through the school system and higher education….we have to be “qualified” to teach the same curriculum?
@ikiraw21
Ай бұрын
You can give best education to kids at home! But how are you going to socialize them? How can they learn to solve problems in uncontrolled environments? Are you going to support them at their work place when they grow up?
@FA-kt3is
Ай бұрын
Homeschooled kids don't always study and are at home. They participate in group classes, clubs, volunteer, work etc. They have more real life experience of problem solving and social situations rather than public school where you are trying to deal with 30 people of your age which never happens in real life.
@chubbiturtles9818
Ай бұрын
there's social skill classes, playdates, volunteering, and clubs. But if you're a parent that keeps them cooped up then your child isn't going to grow at all.
@SonyaOutThere
Ай бұрын
The socialization argument in support of the public school system is such bull$h!+. You’re socialized into the worst things at school. All the public school system socializes students for is becoming another 9-5 mule 🫏 clocking in and clocking out and paying taxes on their meager earnings.
@SB-ml9ji
Ай бұрын
Which one is better? It depends on what your home life is like. If all the Christians turn tail and run from the public schools, it will be the ones who need it most that will suffer. Maybe if those who have the privilege of being a stay-at-home mom could run toward those schools and volunteer, join PTA or the school board, help in the classrooms, help coaches, sit in the cafeterias, lobby to change policies, raise a fuss if woke agenda nonsense crops up, push for good charter schools, advocate for honors classes and merit based evaluations, . . . .maybe there would be some change. My son was in two public schools and a charter school. He was taught at home what was right and wrong, was not allowed a phone until sixteen and no social media outside discord for scouting. Investigate, be involved, teach your kid to filter the incoming Ideas for truth.
@_Cortney-
Ай бұрын
100%
@alyssamurphy2002
Ай бұрын
I've heard this argument, and as a young person, agreed. I was in public school. I've seen too many lose their innocence and faith in schools and by bullying or bad influence were very damaged. Almost all of my worst influences and experiences came from school (but that could be sampling bias). I struggle daily with normal tasks because there's no grade or deadline. I did super well academically and had lots of friends and many successes and a degree. "False game" is right. I'm very happy to be out of school and the constant pressure. I'm smart, but kinda useless in anything productive and working to be joyful and helpful in my home. Can't know what could have been, and no regrets or resentments at NOT being homeschooled, but we're considering hybrid or home for future kids. Our job is to raise them in the fear and admonition of the Lord. Public school doesn't really jive with that. I want my kids to be solid in their faith before sending them into a lion's den. What do you think? :) Totally respect your approach though! I'm sure you watched the Katy Faust/Heidi St John podcast too.
@acaciawilliams1715
Ай бұрын
I’m wondering how homeschooling would work if you’re a single parent?
@Bythegraceofgod1646
Ай бұрын
It isn’t impossible but is much harder. If you belong to a church community that functions as a family support system (as the Lord commands us to!), and if that local church has other homeschool families, even a co-op, the church can and must come alongside every single parent to help them and to provide as much support as possible for home education (if that is the parents desire). As a homeschool Mom who believes home education is the best method for most families or at least could be, my sympathy goes out to single parents. I understand their choices are limited in comparison to two parent families.
@Jenandpipsqueeks
Ай бұрын
I wish we could homeschool but it really can’t work for us - lack of support no family or friends around, lack of financial stability, lack of support from my partner, and lack of me being organised really 😂 also I have an underlying fear that I would Sacrifice my career and then the relationship fall apart. My mother was a STHM and when the marriage ended - she was left with no money and no skills to build a business…. versus my dad whom had the skills to fairly quickly rebuild his financial health and retire with ease - yet my mum because of all her years of sacrifice had no other retirement plan or healthy super fund and is poor retiree. Regarding homeschool however - For those that it is possible I think it’s wonderful! I learn a lot from you homeschooling families how to encourage learning at home with our public schooled children and appreciate what you share ❤ After experiencing an abysmal education (not home educated but not a traditional public school) I am all for public school. I am confident my children are receiving a better education then I did even in public school. We love the teachers and my children enjoy the interaction with others big and small. A healthy counter argument presented Thank you 🙏🏼
@rebekahkenyon1302
Ай бұрын
You do not have to submit a letter of intent in order to homeschool in Connecticut.
@gunnikr
Ай бұрын
It’s clear that most of the people listening to this are homeschoolers mostly because I find that most homeschooling families are the type to listen to podcast about homeschooling and most public schooling families just don’t think about it that much. With that said, I do think there are certain families that are doing homeschooling perfectly like Ellen and some other KZitemrs that I have observed, however, this is definitely not going to fly for every family. So many people are not educated enough or curious enough to be educated on various topics and the most obvious factor is money. So many low income families can’t even give their kids breakfast and lunch and then you can’t expect them to homeschool them. My two cents is that if you can homeschool and you are confident then go for it. I will freely admit that I am well educated, but not confident enough to teach my kids, nor do I have patience for it. As for socialization, homeschoolers generally hang out with other families that are like them for the most part, especially Christian communities and one thing public school does is to expose kids to interact with people who are not like them (socially, racially, and religiously) and that experience is invaluable. Sometimes friendships form with kids their parents would never expose them to (different cultures). I’m not saying that is a reason to send them to public school though.
@_Cortney-
Ай бұрын
You are 100% right.
@Ozarkmountainoutback1
Ай бұрын
Oh yes it exposes them to others. It exposes them to kids who look at porn, kids who do drugs, kids who are sexually abused or are abusing someone and unfortunately teachers who participate in the same. Wonderful exposures! 🤔
@FA-kt3is
Ай бұрын
My older child is homeschooled and younger is in public school. Whey have friends both from homeschooling and public school communities. I believe we should have freedom to homeschool when we can but also move public school system forward to better future. It should not go against one another.
@desserteyes6978
18 күн бұрын
They can’t put a plate on their child’s breakfast because they are neglectful parents, period. Most neglectful parents rather send them off to school for 8 hours. Many low income families homeschool effectively it’s not that hard, it’s a lot of work. That’s about it. If a parent wants to do it they can do it. It’s a matter of will. Because low income doesn’t mean not working. Some low income families are low income because they are lazy. Single fathers have homeschooled and were low income. They got someone to care for the kids in the day, came home to homeschool them. You need 3 hours a day to teach academics not 8 hours like in school.
@seek_understanding1712
10 күн бұрын
Someone needs to check the guy with a bow tie’s search history.
@sarahw7244
Ай бұрын
Yeah fess up. The current ability of teachers to not discipline or hold accountable students and their parents is a BIG part of it
@ChrystalFitness
Ай бұрын
The quality of public school is not good and I pay a lot in local property tax. People like me will absolutely pull their kids out, if, my taxes are “evenly” distributed. That distribution will further lower the quality of my kids’ education.
@stacieellis
Ай бұрын
Home schooling is seen as child abuse in some parts of Europe. Social skills will be effected for sure. Kids have to learn how to navigate the evil in the world and if you have them wait to late they may not be equipped. I understand not wanting your kids to be indoctrinated. But that relies on the parents. As a former teacher i will Tell you that the most frustrating thing for me was the lack of involvement of parents in their child’s education. The children who had parents involved actually did better. My parents were very involved and because of that I made good choices while I was in school. So no one is saying not be involved but also don’t be the dictator of what they learn as well. They need those social skills. Also I will say private school is not necessarily better either. It depends on the state but I will say in Texas there’s a high level of knowledge that is needed to be given to the children that they don’t have time for political or societal issues.
@reynachavez608
Ай бұрын
Interesting statement for the homeschool advocate to say that public school should be fore bad parents. I wish he can go more in depth with that comment.
@annewithane7876
Ай бұрын
I grew up homeschooled and I am radically in support of homeschooling. I used to think if parents are too abusive/neglectful to homeschool that they shouldn't have custody at all, but I've since softened on that. Some parents are struggling a lot with issues like drug addiction, poor mental health, etc and they may have the ability to hold it together for the most part for their kids sake for a little while in the morning and evening, but the whole day would be too much. I think those are the families who benefit the most from public schools
@annewithane7876
Ай бұрын
But that doesn't necessarily mean the public school system has to stay alive. Just means we need alternatives. Schools can be important too for kids who are with one parent one week and another the next, or those in foster care because it gives them some stability
@jennifermartinez9477
Ай бұрын
Why does he sound exactly like Andrew Huberman. The other guy has a squeaky voice.
@mayra_m767
27 күн бұрын
The argument about expertise and parents being the "doctor" is such a poor argument. NO homeschool parent is trying to teach their child to be a doctor, but if the child shows interest in that area of science then as a homeschool parent I would encourage and foster that.. well.. until the interest changes lol my child is 5 and is obsessed with spiders at the moment.. who knows what she will be into next...
@Mrcmrrll
Ай бұрын
I am a mum of 2, one of whom has severe behavior struggles - only in regard to my husband and I. He listens well at school, gets honor roll, always gets complimented on his behavior after play dates, listens to friends and other family members but he is so rude and doesn’t listen to a thing my husband and I say. We have tried every method, we have been to therapy with him, we have been to seminars, read books, years of research and trying. I feel so much guilt because I want to homeschool my children, but what hope do I have with a child who won’t listen to me? I feel it would be a detrimental to our relationship and detrimental for the other sibling who does listen but would not get the time or attention they need due to my son. I am pregnant with a surprise 3rd baby after years of infertility who will be seven years younger than my youngest now, so I’m basically starting over with children and the thought of homeschooling, on top of having a husband who leaves the house around 7:30 and gets home some nights at 6:30, keeping the house in order, making healthy food and snacks for my family and finding time for myself to recenter so I can be the kind of patient and loving parent I want to be…please tell me I’m not the only one who wants to homeschool but isn’t sure their circumstance permits it? I feel like such a failure seeing all these comments from people who homeschool.
@moonafarms1621
Ай бұрын
You are doing the best you can, and that is all that matters. One day at a time!!❤
@SB-ml9ji
Ай бұрын
Don't let anyone tell you that you should be homeschooling! You are not less of a mom or less of a Christian because you use public school. Every family dynamic is different and you know what is best for your child and your family. From what you've said, I think you made a great choice. 🤗
@awilson8521
Ай бұрын
@@SB-ml9jithe public school is godless, and she ought to give her children an explicit Christian education. Prayer, Bible, teachers that encourage her children to be like Christ. Maybe not homeschool, but definitely not public.
@mall3954
Ай бұрын
You are doing a great job mama! Congratulations to you and your family on the new addition of your family. Might I suggest that you research the Courts of Heaven, you and your husband are great parents, you have been so thorough in looking to solve the issues in behavior that have arisen and I know that God sees you are trying. This sounds like a spiritual thing not because of something you’re doing, but issues the enemy might be trying to create against your relationship with your little one. God is the revealer of hidden things and He will reveal this, and bring justice to what the enemy is doing and bring peace to you and your family. Blessings!
@_Cortney-
Ай бұрын
You have to do what’s best for your family and it seems like that’s what you’re doing. I had considered homeschooling and then saw how depressed my oldest child was being away from his peers during the pandemic. This would not be a wise choice for him. We parents are all different and children are all different. Homeschooling is not the end all be all that we are made to believe.
@theryans5975
Ай бұрын
I had a bad experience being homeschooled. My mother home schooled 5 children at all different grades. She was a teacher in public school but quit when her 3rd was young. There was definitely not enough hrs in the day for my mom to teach us all the subjects. All of my siblings struggle with testing really bad keeping us all but one from college. We all as adults now are teaching ourselves to test now. So now we work to live and do school to try for college. None of my siblings are in work that they want. It is not the right fit for honesty I think a lot. I was part of a homeschool group and lots from there have my experience as well. The hard part to is the blaming of the child for the lack of education. I needed help with reading and my mom did her best but I can only read at a 5th grade level and am still working on it. But she just thought and sill thinks I just did not try hard enough. late in life have been diagnosed with dyslexia. Her response to that now is she could’ve never known. But if I was in the system where there was more people there probably would’ve been someone to notice. I know some people still slipped through the cracks, but that definitely happens in homeschooling.
@bekahrohrbough7671
Ай бұрын
I also had a bad experience with homeschooling. Academically I did fine because I was very self-motivated, but a lot of opportunities both socially and educationally were difficult for me to obtain because of the way I was homeschooled. Also, my brother was diagnosed with dyslexia, and because my parents tried to help him on their own, he still struggles greatly to this day. My own child just finished his first year at public school, and the care of the teachers and resources provided for him were incredible. I’m not anti-homeschooling, but I am afraid there are many parents who don’t realize the amount of time, work and effort it takes to properly homeschool.
@awilson8521
Ай бұрын
If it helps, a lot of college educated people are in careers, jobs, nor work they want. I'm surprised your mom couldn't teach at different levels, since public school teachers are trained in differentiation--she should be able to scaffold for the younger and add enrichment for the elder students.
@theryans5975
Ай бұрын
@@awilson8521 I think one of the problems to is when she was teaching one she was sill parenting 4 other children. She did all of the housework and cooking. Not to mention 5 different activities like soccer, ballet, basketball exc… she was only one person. I do appreciate her had work but she just had to cut corners. We got 1 hr a day for all the subjects with her and that was all she had.
@theryans5975
Ай бұрын
@@bekahrohrbough7671 thanks for your story ❤
@SB-ml9ji
Ай бұрын
Every family is different and homeschooling is not always the best choice.
@Inallthingsgivethanks1
7 күн бұрын
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@jazzyavu
Ай бұрын
Wow...two dudes discussed about education, yet can't clearly define what is the purpose of education? 😢
@spartakos3178
Ай бұрын
What the hell is he a professor of?
@francescam.6999
Ай бұрын
I love the idea of home education. And in my mind I have a nice mother or father giving their best. But if I think a little bit longer. Most children have some sort of childhood trauma. It dosn't have to be something big. Parents are humans and even when they give their best they also do some things wrong. I think it is not healthy to spend so much time only with your family. I think it is important to be introduced to a lot of different groups of people. Because you can test different indentities. In school you can be somebody else. At home you can have a role that can be exhausting. Having a break from it is important. And between parents and children is a power dynamic wich can be misused.
@shelbywilliams1603
Ай бұрын
As someone who is very black and white oriented, and I’m typically very passionate about either one side or the other and will defend my opinion, the longer I’m alive the more I see that (within reason of course) that something different works for each family and child. Some children enjoy public school and still thrive, while others do better with home instruction. Also the dynamic of the home and the parents temperament play a role, and some kids learn better from adults other than their parents, vs some do best with their parents. If parents are invested in their children and are committed to instilling good morals and values in them, and there is constant communication with their child, I believe they can thrive in both scenarios. This does not apply to me… however there are some scenarios where some single family homes may be forced to do public education but love their kids dearly, I would hate for any mothers to feel guilt or shame or that their kids will be doomed. I believe homeschool is preferable but it does not and cannot apply to everyone and that’s OK!!!! 🙏🩷
@backtoearthtones
Ай бұрын
Love the topic of this debate but I’m just going to say it … this man’s voice is so hard to listen too it’s hard for me to keep listening. 🫣Love what your doing here though.
@gwenthemilkmaid
Ай бұрын
haha I felt the same
@jenna7990
Ай бұрын
people are insane he literally has a stutter. He is not trying to speak that way.
@courtneyhaas9286
Ай бұрын
He doesn’t sound like he has a stutter, it sounds like he’s losing his voice or just lost his voice and is getting it back. That’s not a stutter….does he always sound like that?
@jamiestanley9234
Ай бұрын
I was in public school until 6th grade. Then I was homeschooled. Although home school in California still had a slight check in process. I liked both. I can see value in both of these. My sister who’s considerably younger than me, was in public school until high school. Then she was homeschooled. We both graduated at 16. We both went to college. And we’re both fine. My son goes to public school and we live in Oklahoma. In our community there has been so many parents complaining about teachers but these same parents, who stay home, won’t take the initiative to do anything different. Cause then they would have to parent. I feel like were all doing what we think is best, and all this my way is better crap needs to stop and we should just support each other. 🩷
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