I have got Debian 12. What I did was install Gnome Core which another way of installing Gnome without all of the bloatware that the full Gnome desktop brings in. Yes it did install some software but that was just the base of the desktop. It also installed the test editor, Totem and a few other apps but none of the heavy stuff that full Gnome brings in.Gnome session is also installed when you install Gnome Core.
@x80nix
5 ай бұрын
That's definitely a good option to get a set of minimal applications to get up and running with. For my personal taste, it still includes a few things I'd rather skip.
@AndreaBorman
5 ай бұрын
@@x80nix Yes that's true. When I installed Gnome Core it also installed Gnome Text Editor, Totem, Gnome Contacts and a few other things.Which I was not keen on as I don't use Totem, I use VLC Media Player. But you cannot remove Totem because it will remove the Gnome Core Desktop. Gnome Session gets installed along with Gnome Core so does Gnome Terminal and System Monitor, so I didn't have to install that. Gnome Core is better if you want a minimal install of Gnome. Because although it does install a few of the things you don't want ,you also get the essentials you need to run the desktop, but none of the heavy apps like full Gnome install. With full Gnome you get things like Shotwell Libreoffice and an email program that I will never use. Yet if you try remove them they will remove all of the Gnome desktop. I don't understand why Gnome has bundled Libre Office in with full Gnome as I don't use that. Gnome Core only has a few bundled apps but not everything. So I started with that then just chose the Gnome software I wanted to install. When I installed Debian 12 I started with the Gnome Flashback desktop which I selected during the netinstall. Because if you don't select one of the desktops you won't get the drivers to run the WiFi network. At least I didn't the first time when I tried to install it without a desktop. So I installed it again and this time picked Gnome Flashback as it is the lightest desktop and easy to remove later on if you install another desktop. That way I got all of the drivers I needed. Gnome has Gnome Flashback anyway because it gets installed when you install Gnome Shell Extensions along with Gnome Classic. I also have Cinnamon on the other laptop which also uses Gnome Flashback as it's fallback mode on Debian 12. So Gnome Flashback is on there as well as it's part of Debian Cinnamon. But I don't mind because I like Gnome Flashback and that can also be run as the only desktop if you want.
@x80nix
5 ай бұрын
There are ways around that. I did a fresh install on one of my laptops with a realtek chipset and just needed the firmware-realtek package. The package can be downloaded ahead of time and loaded during the install - www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04. Additionally, if the laptop has an Ethernet port, the install can be completed over the wired connection and the wireless firmware can be installed after first boot. Again, I prefer having full control and I don't mind installing a terminal or other packages I do want. In fact, for the fun of it, I have a laptop that I'm using xterm on and did not bother with installing gnome-terminal. It all depends on your preferences and what you're trying to achieve.
@AndreaBorman
5 ай бұрын
@@x80nix The thing is during the install it detected my WiFi Network and I was able to connect to it. Even when the install finished and I was in the tty I was still able to install updates and install the desktop and I was not connect to any wired broadband. Yet when I got into the desktop it said no wireless network adaptor found. Even though I was able to go onto some websites in Firefox but not on others .So I don't understand it. I had the same problem with Ubuntu Server that does not come with a desktop until you install one. I was never able to solve this problem on Ubuntu Serve. But I did on Debian by simply installing it again but this time choosing a desktop during the Tasksel install. That solved the problem and the WiFi network and the adaptor was working. But it doesn't work in Debian unless you choose one of the desktops during the installation. Why that is I don't know.
@x80nix
5 ай бұрын
I wonder if the this would have resolved it for you: forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=157101 I might try it out one of my spare laptops.
@cevmantius
Ай бұрын
I really liked your videos subscribed
@maurolimaok
3 ай бұрын
Hi. Mauro Lima from Brazil. The NORMAL install recongnizes my printer on the fly, but with the minimal install I couldn't manage how to install the printer. Would you make a video about that? Thanks!
@x80nix
3 ай бұрын
I plan on covering printing in a little more depth at some point. To get this working you can install the cups package. After that you should be able to use settings or the cups web ui to manage printers.
@maurolimaok
3 ай бұрын
@@x80nix Thanks. I'll wait for that video.
@x80nix
3 ай бұрын
Video is up.
@sumrak_sumarokov_9978
Ай бұрын
How do I set up bluetooth? Apparently the minimal gnome install doesn't come with bluetooth support
@sumrak_sumarokov_9978
Ай бұрын
If there is an actual manual to build gnome DE bit by bit, so you can have only what you need would be super neat, but a simple "sudo apt install gnome-bluetooth" didn't help as some other bluetooth set up guides.
@x80nix
Ай бұрын
I'm not aware of an official guide. There is a trimmed down version that can be installed that includes some of the core items. Another example of little things that might be missing is the package required to display wireless connection status on the top panel. I've had to explicitly install it on my laptops when doing a minimal gnome setup . Installing the lighter version is fine for people that want to save the extra steps while still avoiding all the apps that are included with the standard install. It's just my preference to start with bare minimum and only add exactly what I want.
@sumrak_sumarokov_9978
Ай бұрын
@@x80nix if you are talking about gnome-core then it has the same missing packages, unfortunately. I am running it right now and still trying to fix bluetooth, but no use
@x80nix
Ай бұрын
Sorry I misunderstood and didn't realize you couldn't get it working. Did you take a look at: wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser
@sumrak_sumarokov_9978
Ай бұрын
Of course I did. I have done all preparations, all mentioned firmware packages of this page are installed and experimental features are set to "true". Right now I am trying to force debain to install all needed non-free-firmware packages, because apparently it doesn't do this when you do a manual DE installation (as you did in your video).
5 ай бұрын
Great video! Is it possible with a similar video for a minimal KDE installation?
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