The thing that I hated about this video is that Don is able to hunt every day in November and I can't. So jealous.
@LukeGittings
2 жыл бұрын
I just hunted 5 days straight and I can’t hardly move. How does one hunt every day in November? Physically?
@yourmomma2995
2 жыл бұрын
so do i, you have to decide whats important, when i was younger i used to quit my job every year on opening day of deer season, then have to find a new job as soon as it was over, so 12 or so years ago i started my business because work was getting in the way of my hunting and fishing time :)
@ericatwell8611
2 жыл бұрын
Lol same
@roostmx
2 жыл бұрын
Luke G i hunted 4 days of dark to dark sits. In a blind in a $5 academy chair. And a $5 stool. Used the stool for a foot prop and had a recliner out there and just sat and listened for days
@ninjagodzilla6402
2 жыл бұрын
@@yourmomma2995 you to hu? I thought i was the only person that did that lol.i literly quit my jib every year from tbe age of 16-my 20's.im now 43 & pissed off i cant quit or ill loose it all.keeps me in the woods longer though on my days off "sat-sun" ill hunt dayligjt til dark during this time of the year.but yea i feel ya.
@meMiner
3 жыл бұрын
Regarding #3, I'd suggest that you may see new bucks from pressured areas. ie they get pushed out and look for someplace safer. Great video
@brandonsimon2804
3 жыл бұрын
Nuh-uh you have to spend $59.99 on the pro package on an app to find out when the rut is!!!!🤣🤣 Great video!! I agree completely!!!
@roostmx
2 жыл бұрын
Noooo you gotta get the $119.99 elite version!!!
@ramsaycountry1177
3 жыл бұрын
Well I'm sorry, but I totally disagree with one point in the video! Not all whitetail hunters dream about the rut!!!!! I hate the rut deer movement is so random and the buck I'm looking for might be 2 miles away locked down with a doe! I'd much rather hunt a big buck on an early or late season feeding pattern. As for the rest of the video I agree with you. I've been deer hunting for 32+ years. So many ppl listen to all the bullsh*t other are trying to get rich and famous off of.
@christmas4713
10 ай бұрын
Priceless video! And couldn’t agree more! Thank-you for sharing your knowledge.
@nathanking3778
3 жыл бұрын
Everything sounds legit except for the new bucks moving in, in my opinion. We hunt a small piece of property and usually don’t get good bucks on the cameras until the rut comes around.
@chrisfenimore8662
3 жыл бұрын
Average range for whitetail deer is 4000 acres that covers many farms in most cases so it's not unusual to not see bucks you've been seeing or see more bucks wants the chasing kicks in
@brokenarrow6491
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. A guy killed a huge buck next door to our farm in rut and another guy from a farm a mile away has that same deer on a trail camera.
@jollycooperator2876
3 жыл бұрын
I believe they've tagged them and observed bucks moving huge distances during the rut.
@ratrocket91
3 жыл бұрын
It also depends on buck to doe ratios and how aggressive the local dominant buck is ass well.
@basicinfo.9315
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisfenimore8662 Must be in Texas.... Home ranges of whitetail bucks in excellent habitat with plenty of food available can be quite small. GPS studies in prime areas of Louisiana, Pennsylvania and Maryland have shown home ranges averaging from 269 to 559 acres; not even as much as a square mile (640 acres).
@jeffhager9398
3 жыл бұрын
I believe bucks roam to different areas to find does, been hunting deer for 42 years myself
@davidkoonce2742
3 жыл бұрын
yessir
@hallofflamesnake4773
3 жыл бұрын
Same bro
@hallofflamesnake4773
3 жыл бұрын
I hunted 8 years and I find new bucks in the rout
@lukejoseph1406
3 жыл бұрын
Giant 180" buck shot near me on public, guy had trail cam pics of him all summer and early fall 8 miles away...
@whitegoosejuvy
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything he says except the range of rutting bucks. There is no 2nd rut 100%. If a rutting buck can smell 1 mile what makes him think that buck wouldn’t travel that far for a piece
@Bob_Diesel
4 жыл бұрын
Don't really know how I found you, but I love that you're a no BS kinda guy. Very rare to find these days with guys who run outdoor channels. Just an ole woodsman that calls it how he sees it. Would love more videos on hunting winds that are favorable to the buck, and how they behave in those winds. I think I'm really starting to wrap my head around it.
@KyleC0430
4 жыл бұрын
Simple just move down to bucks entering and exit spot if he’s working the wind and from Halloween through November just hunt the buck because he ain’t worried about but one thing ! Pretty simple I’d say there Leroy
@danielmcbride4828
3 жыл бұрын
@@KyleC0430 I don't care what anybody says the mature bucks really mature bucks always use the wind I don't care how rut crazy they are
@KyleC0430
3 жыл бұрын
@@danielmcbride4828 hey nobody saying that’s not true but I’m not going to not hunt due to any wind and it’s never stopped me from killing that mature buck! He always messes up and I’m there so basically saying hunt just hunt don’t get to technical with it
@denniscampbell8240
3 жыл бұрын
Well from a man with that experience ,,I'll take your word for it over others who think they are pros ,,,,,thanks for the info
@CW1116
3 жыл бұрын
You seem to rely too heavily on one opinion w/o knowing either "pro". 42 yrs. of hunting is a lot of experience. I've been deer hunting for 61 years and I've too many people who have a small percentage of my experiences and think they are "pros". Not so. This dude just has a larger audience with his KZitem vid.
@jasonwatts1740
4 жыл бұрын
Don, I agree with most of what you said. No disrespect to your life/hunting experiences but, there are areas in this country where the rut is in October (SE GA for example) and in January (most of central and south Alabama). I've even read that the rut in S.FL is in the spring and early summer. Not everyone who watches your videos has the Midwest as their hunting address. BTW, I've been watching KZitem videos for years, but have never felt compelled to comment on a video - until this one. So, yes, you struck a nerve. Subscribed anyway.
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
Jason, I dont disagree with what you are saying but there is only 1 rut per year and in your area it is more prolonged than in mine
@Jefestephens
Жыл бұрын
Same here in southern Arkansas.
@jeffkreager7717
4 жыл бұрын
I may not agree with everything you have stated but it's valuable to me as a hunter to be aware of all of the theories. Thank you for taking to time to share this information.
@duckman5849
3 жыл бұрын
I 100% disagree with the statement saying there is no October breeding. On my ranch in Tx we see fawns EVERY yr born the first and second week of May like clockwork. Doing the math and backing up 201 days that puts the Doe bred from Oct 10th - Oct 31st. I will admit 90 % of the fawns are born the later part of May but to say that NO breeding occurs in October is simply not true
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
I never said "NO" breeding takes place in October; just a whole lot less than we have been led to believe.
@davetoms63
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry but fetal and telemetry studies don't lie, does are bred from Sept through Jan and even later in some southern areas. And some bucks absolutely relocate in Fall. I dont think it's high #s but there are some. I think the fact that you live and hunt in a managed high ag state gives you your observations but I dont believe its law across whitetail ranges.
@gotmilk4382
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Not everyone has that luxury of the first and second week of November for the rut. Especially hunting in the south. Hell, we have 6 different ruts here in Barbour county Alabama.
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
@@gotmilk4382 you have one rut that is spread out over a longer period, not 6 different ruts
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
I never said bucks dont relocate in the fall
@gotmilk4382
3 жыл бұрын
@@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147 just don't classify the RUT being in the first couple of weeks in November. Specify your location and surrounding areas before you assume that everyone that hunts whitetail in North America has to go by that standard. Assuming they watch your video being from other locations and listen to your advice on November RUT only to be miss informed and unsuccessful. And yes we do have 6 ruts or more. The Estrus cycle of a doe wanting to breed is classified to Bucks is the RUT! So with our WIDE range of does going into the estrus breeding cycle, we do have at least 6 different RUTS! It's messed up here but it's the truth.
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
@@gotmilk4382 we are going to have to agree to disagree. There is only one rut. A doe can have multiple heat cycles but there is one breeding season although granted it may be spread out over a longer time period in some regions
@bubbigguns4952
4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir I agree with you!! 100%! A mature buck may travel 1-3 miles or more every night, so yeah your little hunting spot is not his grounds! And ofcourse you're not seeing them, they KNOW YOU'RE THERE!!!!! 😆😁
@whitetailevolution
4 жыл бұрын
First hand experience is the best experience! Great video Don! Keep them coming!
@mikerice6237
3 жыл бұрын
Lol if your high fence your not going to see a different buck
@nathanolson2430
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I agree that moon phase doesn’t impact the timing of the rut. To me it seems it can have an effect on our perception of the rut by influencing deer movement. Certain moon phases may cause deer patterns to change, most deer sightings happen around dawn and dusk. If their feeding patterns are effected by moon phase they may not be seen by hunters prior to dark heading to feed or early in the morning going back to bed down. I’ll bowhunt as often and sit as long as I can from the last week of October to the Wisconsin gun season opener which is the third weekend in November. From year to year the rut activity seems to change. Some years it’s very short and intense a I will only see 7-10 days of bucks seeking and chasing does. Other years it seems to last for an entire month and we will still have bucks chasing at the end of November during gun season. Last year it seemed to be non existent. Little to no sightings of chasing or solo bucks seeking receptive does. Of course other factors will impact deer activity such as hunting pressure and weather readily available food sources, possibly even moon phases. No matter what the rut in the area I hunt happens the same time every year. End of October starts the pre rut. Buck activity picks up. I see mostly bucks moving solo , searching for the first receptive does. I’ve had my best luck during this time frame still early morning and late evening. First week in November I’ll start to see young bucks chasing and bigger bucks now pairing up with does. Second week in November activity seems to taper off. I feel like a few does have already been bread but the majority are now coming into heat. Bucks don’t have to cover the same amount of ground to find a receptive doe. If they doe isn’t quite ready they will lock down together and wait. This happens through the end of November here in southern Wisconsin. Of course it will very depending on your location. I see newborn fawns every year around the same time. Mostly end of May- middle of June.
@20byrd
2 жыл бұрын
I literally just checked my trailcams and had a doe getting bred by a mature buck right in front of my cam on 10/28 🙄 (southern OH)
@connersoety7630
4 жыл бұрын
I see new bucks during the rut all the time. This is most likely because I hunt a small property but during the rut new bucks 100 percent show up on my property.
@ANuts223
4 жыл бұрын
Same here, even on my farm which is 200 acres, I see some bucks disappear for weeks at a time and some bucks who only show up for a few days and never come back until the next year. Mature bucks certainly expand their range during the rut for sure, I’ve seen it firsthand for many years. I respect Don and agree with 98% of what he says but I disagree with that point to an extent.
@CormierTC
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think a lot of factors play into that. Population densities, sex ratios, terrain and habitat, property size, etc. I think the point is not to rely on that idea that even if you don’t have any good bucks on your property, “anything can happen in the rut” and all the sudden a booner shows up. Could happen, but more than likely not
@rodneygilbert5183
4 жыл бұрын
I have the same on my land, it's only 65 acres but l don't have any mature buck here until late October early November. And they are gone for good the 1st of Dec. Normally around 22 of Nov l will have a day where 4 or 5 160in bucks come through, l know there from other farms that the does are all bread.
@bubbigguns4952
4 жыл бұрын
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@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
just because you see bucks that you havent seen before does not mean they are "new" bucks. They were likely there all along but just became more visible during the rut
@petehayduk8051
2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Based on everything I know, it sounds like everything you expressed in this video is backed solidly by science! And your first hand experience. Loving your videos! Third one I've watched, I believe. Great, no bs, to the point, content!
@runmac6413
3 жыл бұрын
I hunt property in Louisiana along the Mississippi River where there is a late December rut. I bow to your experience certainly, just some things in this part of the country are a located a little differently on the calendar. Great video.
@calvinh.8882
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Different climates cause different ruts. Here in Florida, the deer rut starts in July down in the southern part of the state and runs through February in the northern parts of the state.
@SSgtBigSwole
2 жыл бұрын
100% accurate. I hunt in richland parish and can vouch there is a 2nd rut.
@jeffmiller8115
3 жыл бұрын
Great info Don, I’m sixty and been hunting since I was 13, I’ve seen a lot, believed a lot, and I’ve found doubt in a lot of theories, 40 yrs of experience debunks theories! Anything can happen in the wild, can’t control nature, there will be freakish things happen but for the most part everything will fall as nature calls
@jakemitchell1671
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent info, can't argue with a man's experience. But I swear, I don't look forward to the rut any more than any other part of deer season. In fact, it's my least favorite time. During rut a buck's behavior becomes 100% unpredictable. Since I can't control when the does come into estrus, I cannot plan for anything. I love the early season when the deer are still in their summer patterns, and then my absolute favorite time is post rut, when the bucks come back together and the priority returns to FOOD. I can scout that; plan for it; anticipate. Rut? It's just too random. Get in the woods and hope you're in the right spot for the action. Of course I hunt public land where I have ZERO control over anything. If I had food plots and bait piles and could keep pressure low I'd probably feel otherwise.
@brandonrobertson6327
3 жыл бұрын
Well, whether a 2nd rut or a prolong rut, is seen in my area of the country. I notice that chasing activity is the strongest usually the last 2weeks of November and sometimes into the 1st week of December. But then, the last week of December into the 1st week of January some years you see chasing activity start again. This to me explain why you see small fawns into June where you see larger fawns earlier in the year around April/May. But I do respect your observations and experiences on the subject.
@timothyhowell7047
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't ruffle my feathers but this great info for the Midwest. But in GA it doesn't work like that. And that comes from first hand experience hunting super thick planted pines for 30 years.
@undeserved1781
3 жыл бұрын
Don't have feathers, and have heard more deer info than quaker makes oats, doesn't work like that in northern half of Ms. either, 20 yrs. ago or so, saw a fully spotted fawn in late Nov, [no fallow deer] . Been deer hunting for 56 yrs. and a "few" have gone down by arrow, smoke pole, rifle, shot gun, crossbow. A deer is a deer they do deer stuff, everything wants to survive, later breeding happens. [here anyway maybe it's a southern thing]
@vasquezisai5506
3 жыл бұрын
Great video with lots of knowledge, but I can relate , Them South GA deer do be switching it up a lot don’t they lol 😂😂
@timothyhowell7047
3 жыл бұрын
@@vasquezisai5506 heck yeah they do. They might be rutting like crazy here and go one county over and it's like all the bucks are gay and could care less about a doe. We just kinda wing it and hope for the best
@toddleinbach288
2 жыл бұрын
I will agree with 3 out of 4. Tracking collars don't lie. Bucks go out of there core area during the rut and return till next year, not all but several do. PS I have been in the woods during the rut for 40+ years as well.
@JacobSchmittDeerHuntingSchool
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with what you say almost to the tee. I have a very small sample but I did kill a doe on the first Saturday after thanksgiving that was pregnant. I have a QDMA fetus scale that I used and it said she was bread October the 15. I know you said that some breading does take place in October but not much. I really wonder how much really takes place because I know for a fact that there is some breading in October. I will say I am in Arkansas and I know your a lot farther north. Yeah maybe I killed the only one in the area that came into heat in October but it’s hard to believe that. I’m not disagreeing. I really wonder how much really takes place. I do agree it would be a very low number but I still and will probably always wonder how much breading actually takes place in October. Anyway nice video.
@Jaeamythomas
2 жыл бұрын
Question, I hear so much about the November rut. In Alabama I have not seen the rut in November, ever. We are still waiting for it, showing signs of the next week or so of it happening. How much can the rut vary from different portions of the U.S? Maybe a video with what you have learned would be awesome! Great videos, thanks for sharing your knowledge
@Yettiattack
Жыл бұрын
Maybe a few days. I hunt in washington an constantly have to tel people there is no rut in october. Everyone argues cause they see bucks chasing does or just daytime activity. Its strictly a seeking phase where they are checking the does in the area an who is going to be receptive. In washington blacktails start being receptive around the first week of November. Our season actually closes for modern firearm nov first to the 15th to allow for the breeding to happen. Ive ran over 20 cameras for the past 10 years to obtain enough knowledge in my area that i harvest successfully year after year. When do call what to call as blacktails are much more difficult an less social than other deer specie.
@banjohappy
Жыл бұрын
Since the rut is based on photoperiod, and since Alabama is deep south, the shortening/lengthening of days there is less pronounced than up north. Thus the rut in Alabama could happen later in November or in December, when the shorter days are more comparable to up north. Regardless of where you are in the northern hemisphere, the shortest day of the year is always within a day of Dec. 21, but the closer you are to the equator, the less pronounced the shortening/lengthening is.
@JoeTheFarmer
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Don; great information! Question, when you hunt the Rut do you use a scent to attract bucks? If so, is there a type that you recommend? God bless brother. -JTF
@danielpifer9222
4 жыл бұрын
I know I’m not Don - but listened to a lot of his podcasts. He doesn’t use any lures while hunting. He wants to leave as little impact as possible and focus on being in the right location. With that said for mock scrapes he likes Smokey’s Deer Lures. Hope that helps!
@KyleC0430
4 жыл бұрын
Dominant buck every time
@JoeTheFarmer
4 жыл бұрын
@@danielpifer9222 Thanks Daniel; I appreciate the input! I will be trying some decoys this year in a couple hay fields when the wind is right and didn't know if someone had a recommendation on what they feel would work best under a buck or doe decoy (obviously a scent specific to their gender). I have hunted a lot; just felt like using a decoy would be a new challenge. Good luck to all this season and God Bless -JTF
@JoeTheFarmer
4 жыл бұрын
@@KyleC0430 Thanks Kyle! Is there a brand that you prefer? I thought about reviewing a few for my channel; but that's a lot of stinky scent and sit time I would rather use focused on hunting. I need to lean on the community for this one! Appreciate the response -JTF
@KyleC0430
4 жыл бұрын
@@JoeTheFarmer about any good brand you can find I’ve always had luck with some of the cheapest stuff just grabbing off shelf and just like last year got a big 9 point licking the branch I wiped my fingers off on turning off fire break to stand followed my path down fire break and stood there for a shot ! Works great
@5spottedbass
3 жыл бұрын
All depends on the country your hunting and the buck to doe ratio some bucks have different range. North west texas all bets are off. My ranch is 12 k acres neighbor is 70 k I've killed bucks neighbor has seen 7 miles away. He's done the same.
@micker6580
Ай бұрын
Your opinion on “ no new bucks “ during the rut is very short sighted. I own 20 acres is southern Michigan. I have no way of knowing what bucks are on my neighboring properties that have countless acres. I keep inventory on my little 20 acres. You are claiming I could never get a buck running a doe on my property that I’ve never seen , 5:16 or caught on all 6 of my cameras on ( 20 acres)? Seriously? Do you think everyone owns hundreds and hundreds of acres , and will know all the bucks on said acreage because of dozens of cameras? Your audience is not what you think it is. I agree with everything else you said. That opinion is not thought out. Just an observation. 👍🏻
@bradr2142
Жыл бұрын
Experience knows everything. The book gets ten percent. He's right good information. I don't want an argument I want your Experience. I've heard you say other things that I've experienced and the idiot book says it the other way. I stick with your Experience. Thank you. Your good man and whitetail guy. Thanks.
@Weztcoastguy
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing your information, nice to hear from someone who is the real deal instead of armchair hunters. Cheers 🍻
@rogerbonnette7113
3 жыл бұрын
Your word is not the gospel. One thing mother nature has taught me is THER6 IS ALWAYS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
@foebeezy5198
3 жыл бұрын
Come on now. Maybe you know alot about farm land deer hunting and fenced in deer. But I live and hunt in northern Wisconsin, the very most northern counties of Ashland and Iron County, right on the South Shore of Lake Superior. I hunt all public big woods deer. No agriculture for miles. Have saw trail cam pics of does breed end of October, I run 10-15 cams on our Reservation (Bad River Band of Lake Superior Chippewa 120,000+ acres) and the main area I hunt I've had 6 different mature bucks that I never see during the summer or early fall come thru in November. Might only get 1 picture or a couple of them passing thru the bedding area. No disrespect sir but I just had to mention this. Good luck hunting everybody!
@danielanthony9621
10 ай бұрын
Good video and I can tell you believe what you say. Your based in Illinois so length of daylight will be at a different period here in Georgia. Mating here takes place in October and November. The age of does will play a factor as to when they come into estrus especially there first year after that it stabilizes. Young bucks will seek new territory and all bucks will cross into others territory when there in full rut they can't help themselves. Im 60 and have been hunting for a minute or two and the one revelation I've come to believe 100 percent of the time is...when I think I got it all figured out nature let's me know I dont. I rely on a lifetime of experience, patience and a large piece of pie worth of luck. Good hunting to all and please be safe.
@amjorgy1
3 жыл бұрын
A lot of this I agree with except not finding new bucks on your property during the rut. I've seen many different bucks during the rut I had never seen before. And I know ofany bucks that I've seen be killed a mile away from where i saw them.
@maxe.b.6374
11 ай бұрын
Satellite bucks.
@jimreed3904
3 жыл бұрын
great content...Most mature doe come into estrus in November and most fawns come into estrus in January... we can agree on this...so why can't we call that January fawn rut a "2nd" rut?... matter on semantics on calling one long rut or two phases... I think I'll call the fawn breeding in January the 2nd rut,.. Peace..
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the feedback. Since the breeding of doe fawns is much more sporadic and spread out than the typical breeding period of mature does, I dont think they compare.
@MrJimbo1212
3 жыл бұрын
@@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147 ..so on our farm for the last 20+years, it always seemed that the majority of the fawns "came in" around January...but maybe I have been missing a more spread out version...but I'm still going to hold my opinion that the majority of fawns come in at very least after Christmas and into mid February...I have seen very little Nov/Dec bumping of fawns...But then again, I never watched captive deer like you - so maybe im off on that..I could not agree more on the balance of your content...peace
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrJimbo1212 I agree with your observations regarding doe fawns
@philruckle3959
4 жыл бұрын
Another good informative video Don. Keep them coming.
@davidkoonce2742
3 жыл бұрын
i don't agree about the new bucks moving in during the rut. i see different new bucks every year that I haven't seen. i been hunting 40 years 2. plus I'm retired and hunt aloooot. but in Texas
@edwardlydon2627
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been telling the old timers I know for years that the rut has nothing to do with the moon phase. They don’t believe a word of it. Lol. Another good one that old Timers just won’t let go is that they think every clumped poop is from a buck and pellets are only from does. They say I’m crazy when I tell them it’s just not true!
@TRICK-OR-TREAT236
3 жыл бұрын
I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT YOU SAY. THE WHOLE MOON PHAISES THING WAS SOMETHING CREATED TO SELL MAGAZINES. WHAT STATE ARE YOU HUNTING ? YOU FORGOT MYTH #5 PISSING OR SHITTING CLOSE TO YOUR STAND WILL KEEP DEER AWAY. LIKE DEER CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMAN PISS & SHIT AND A RACCOON OR OTHER ANIMALS. HOW STUPID IS THAT ? I PISS RIGHT OUT OF MY STAND AND HAVE BEEN TAKING A DEER OR TWO EVERY YEAR SINCE I LEARNED HOW TO REALLY HUNT. IF THAT WAS TRUE YOU COULD SPRINKLE URINE HERE AND THERE AND USE IT TO FUNNEL DEER PAST YOUR STAND. THEY'LL AVOID THE HUMAN URINE RIGHT ? AND ALMOST FORGOT MYTH #6 BUT THIS ONE IS UNSTOPPABLE FOR MOST PEOPLE. DEER SCENTS AND DOE IN HEAT IN A BOTTLE WILL WORK MAGIC TO DRAW A BUCK TO YOUR STAND. THIS IS COMMON "SCENTS" PUN INTENDED. IT'S PURE BULLSHIT. FOR ALL THE FOOLS OUT THERE WHO SWEAR BY IT. DON'T YOU THINK THE D.O.W. IN YOUR STATE WOULD OUTLAW IT ? IT WOULD GIVE YOU AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE RIGHT ? YOU CAN'T BAIT DEER AND TURKEYS IN MOST STATES RIGHTS ? PLEASE TELL ME WHY THAT IS ? L.O.L. HERE IS A FACT YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF. BUCK STOP LURES MANY YEARS AGO WAS EXPOSED FOR FRAUD. THEY WERE AND POSSIBLE STILL ARE THE LARGEST SELLER OF DEER AND BAIT SCENTS IN THE COUNTRY. SELLING BEAUCOUP TONS OF DOE IN HEAT SCENT AND DOE URINE + BUCK SCENTS AND BEAR SCENTS. BY LAW AT THAT TIME THEY HAD TO REGISTER THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THEY HAD WITH THE STATE. AT THAT TIME THEY HAD 12 DEER AND ONE BEAR. EVEN IF THEY WERE IN HEAT 24 HOURS A DAY AND PISSED NONSTOP 24 HRS A DAY 365 DAYS A YEAR THEY COULDN'T PRODUCE A TINY FRACTION OF WHAT THEY WERE SELLING. YET PEOPLE WERE BUYING THAT CRAP LIKE IT WAS GOING OUT OF STYLE. AND YES I GET IT. STOP TELLING YOU WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW. IT WORKS LIKE MAGIC. STOP RAINING ON MY STUPIDITY. L.O.L.
@kirk3977
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Fantastic!!! Finally answering questions I had for years, From a truthful experienced hunter and deer farm!! I thank you!!!
@stevoky
3 жыл бұрын
New bucks do show up. I have 20 years of photos on four properties proving this. Unless your property is large enough to keep this movement on your property and you will still get this happening on you boundaries. I agree with everything else though, but you need to do more research on this statement. Don't be blinded by your experience not everyone has your diverse habitat which may be you you see this result, most of your viewers don't have a parcel of your caliber.
@christopheroverton5072
3 жыл бұрын
Don't it depend on Wich state your in cause there is no rut activity in November in south Alabama
@johnnycoley4302
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure the property sizes hunt/own but most people in my area in nc hunt small tracks of land 50acres and smaller and by sharing pics and talking shows bucks do travel outside the home range from my own experience. Also in heavy hunted areas the buck doe ratio is now up to par so don’t think all does can be breed one the 1st cycle which sends that doe back in estrogen.
@brent3323
3 жыл бұрын
I think s disclaimer needs to be made. The dates and times pertains to where you do your hunting, and where your deer hurd originated. It does not at all pertain to the deer I've hunted in AL, that rut in February. Selectively at very end of January.
@kevinasbery6119
3 жыл бұрын
Great information. I’m relatively new to hunting and I need all the help I can get. Thank you. 🦌
@bassarospics4485
3 жыл бұрын
I believe everything that you have just stated? My Dad told me almost every word you just said? I have seen this first hand. I hunt all season long n I hope to for many years to come..
@josephtreadlightly5686
3 жыл бұрын
I have a large doe in my area that I've seen every month of the year for 2 years now. I watched her on May 23rd 2020 when she was very pregnant. I talked to another person in the middle of June & asked them if they had seen her recently since I hadn't. They said the week b4 Memorial day was their last sighting. She had twins I'm sure of b4 the end of May. If u do the math that's six months & roughly an additional 2 weeks the gestation period of a doe which coincides to the dates that Don gave. I have witnessed for 30 years or more that there is always a doe in heat up here in MN on November 10th. The amount of daylight is the only fact u can pin on that date. Usually the sundown time on November 10th is 4:50 CDT. This year it was November 9th. One other thing I have observed on many different places in my area is around that time that a mature doe will leave her fawns with a subordinate doe & search out a real suitor when she feels that she is about ready to be bred. They act differently & will be alone. I watched a doe last year do this on an evening u wouldn't expect to see a deer weather wise. However it was November 10th & all bets r off when it comes to weather or moon phases.
@mbagwell2607
3 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of this with the exception of finding new bucks on your properties during the rut. We have historically found "new" bucks that were never seen before. This is probably a function of the fact that our property is on the edge of his home range and that he is moving more within that home range in early November. We co-op manage about 1,500 acres in Upstate NY that is mostly farmland with small wood blocks and creek bottoms. If the bucks are bedding on our properties we generally find them. The "new" bucks we see are often on camera several hours after nightfall and the assumption is they travelled far that night. I will say that bucks we observe change their bedding areas happen late season based on food and the fact that they seem willing to bed in closer proximity to does that they are not willing to during peak breeding. We also assume that some of that movement is the result of hunting pressure from neighboring properties. Great content, fresh takes, good stuff Don. Nice to see someone not regurgitating others info but info gleaned from years of experience. Thanks man
@chrise4994
3 жыл бұрын
Bonus bucks
@wadedebord275
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. However, down here in Jackson county Texas the bucks are full blown chasing the does the second week of October. I bow hunt here and I see it year after year. It can be 100 degrees outside and they are grunting, fighting, chasing and I assume breeding.
@elklicklodgehuntclub1079
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree except I hunt a small area, 60 acres, run camera's all year, and know about every doe, buck & raccoon, and if them knew bucks we see during the Rut were there all along they had the greatest hiding place or just didn't move, Still loved hearing all your info, especially with experiance and background, Thanks.
@JayN4GO
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a target buck killed 5 miles from his core area in November. It hurt but he went through a hell of a terrain obstacle to die for that doe. Now keep in mind I’ve always hunted 100 acre parcels. Never a large 5 mile parcel to observe this. But I’d say you are correct. Thanks for the no bs videos. I learn a lot from you.
@vonster4117
2 жыл бұрын
May have chased the same doe that far.
@rodneywoods4477
Жыл бұрын
Great video good info I have been saying for years there is no second rut and the moon phase stuff but people will keep on saying it and believing in it lol
@davidjohnston7325
2 жыл бұрын
Think it's when it gets cold to colder One year it's warm won't happen to it get cold to colder
@DickieTunes80
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I’ve seen a wild 160” class buck breed a doe fawn on January 17th in an open prairie he ran her around in circles for ever before she gave in. However The part of new bucks showing up I disagree, we’ve seen first hand where a mature buck who resided on our 700 acres was killed over 3 miles away during the rut. It’s actually happened a few times that we’ve seen first hand.
@ethank431
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree with you. I’ve seen the same thing on our property year after year. We will have multiple shooters we watch all year abs they will get killed miles away and we will kill one that we’ve never seen and come to find out it’s from miles away.
@weschaffin
3 жыл бұрын
Your stuff is spot on except the new buck trolling property. I love your videos and i respect your opinion. Trust me, if we are all wise about this we’ll listen and apply.
@jeffgeagley5935
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve saw does breed more than once in October.
@robinworkman3621
3 жыл бұрын
I am curious,I had a couple hours to hunt one after noon after work. I ran out to this area i never really hunted,I walked through it 1 time with my dad. I made a mental note. It was 3-4 years after that.i ran out on the quad,walked in stuck some scent on some tampons hung then in some trees the wind was moving from the west to the east. I sat down under a tree in about 5 minutes I heard a twig snap,I dismissed it.another minute or 2 I heard another.i was sitting indian style with the rifle in my lap,I thought I better get ready.i grabbed my rifle just. As I looked to the left(down wind of the scent line),I saw a deer not running but not walking head down.i was looking for antler through the grass as soon as I saw bone,I shouldered the rifle. The deer hit the brakes and looked right at me it was a 4x4 I took the shot and now have a nice euro and had some tasty venison. This was like the first week of november.his neck did not seem swollen.the scent I was using was called 180 day estrus. Is a buck ready to breed when ever he smells a doe in heat? He was definitely cruising looking for the doe.but I thought it was a little early. Or was it simply the right place and the right time?
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
probably both
@TheBuckPsych
3 жыл бұрын
The thing we all can agree on is Pressure dictates everything well, in my opinion 3 things. pressure ,winds, and food. I think comparing any managed properties to any public piece of property even during the rut is just not comparable, well maybe in some behaviors. The deer that live on public are just that more alert and skittish. they have to be or they die its a conditioning they learn quickly. In my opinion over my experiences hunting both private and public .The deer are gonna react differently. Bucks do travel on public and i've seen and also witnessed it. Example = I Have seen (last November ) a buckin a spot on public and then i seen the same buck almost 5 miles away on a different day during the rut. food change/ hunting pressure made the deer switch so the buck followed the does. Its like an off year on an acorn flat. hunt a an oak flat on a no drop acorn year. you gonna have long lonely sits hunt it during a warm dry summer. your probably gonna strike gold. dictates although I agree with a-lot you state, but a mature buck thats living on a large private pice of property is a a different animal than one living on a severly highly pressured public piece. the rut timing i agree on but i do say ratio has probably something to do with late breeding or even early. but thats another video i guess I have no clue why 1/2 my comments went red lettering so disregard the color lmao thanks Don for all your great content
@darrenmeyer8507
3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! I run cameras and I do not see "new" bucks come in the area, just bucks that have been there become more active in daylight. I know this because I run cameras year around.
@davidjohnston7325
2 жыл бұрын
Well first week now season they laid in the rut heavy I'm in pa state Then I seen ruts in middle of nov no later this was in the 90s
@wtpence4731
3 жыл бұрын
Very good video ! I like your no BS style and agree with everything you said except the buck traveling thing. We plant quite a few acres of good food plots and they draw the does , especially late in the season .As you stated a buck can sent a hot doe a Long way off and I believe they do draw bucks that don't normally use our property. JMO. Keep up the good videos ! PS, This is my 60th year deer hunting, Thank GOD !
@m1garandman
9 ай бұрын
How many of the fawns dropped by late bred doe fawns make it to recruitment vs. dying compared to fawns dropped on schedule?
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
9 ай бұрын
Good question that I dont have an answer for
@DavidGonzalez-ek3zh
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome info as always. I do agree 100%. Thx
@kcavery7968
3 жыл бұрын
I only have 10 acres, I just shot a 8 pointer that's never been on any camera's, I believe it definitely happens depending on how much land you are on.
@terryleblanc6868
3 жыл бұрын
Down south Louisiana coastal marshes breeding can take place August and September.. 50 mi North it's a different story.. then in the basin with flooding in the spring it's another rutting period.. so location location location.
@huntermark1160
4 жыл бұрын
That makes sense to me! Thanks for the knowledge.
@midwest8six607
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on the Lull and your opinion on it? Would LOVE to hear your opinion on the subject.
@nixonfleming6575
3 жыл бұрын
I hunted in area were if u got a lot snow on ground u track deer better and see it rut is til on.in my state Vermont we get snow in middle Nov or toward end.for example one time I found doe track so I decide follow it I saw were it stopped I saw mix of red spots and yellow piss she was in heat then she moved on were she was going I saw same thing again .i saw some food source. Few bedding area not to far from food source.so I decide stop were I saw second sign found spot sit by some pines trees brush snow off tree thump.put seat cushion so keep my butt warm.watch see what happen about 45 min of sitting I saw small buck 3 point one go ape shit calling for doe come out kicking ground look like he took piss on top of were doe left her scent.then I heard more noise coming from above small knoll.bigger deer good rack .but could not get shoot in so I waited.then I realize it started get dark bucks decide move into thick stuff. Lay down.shooting line was not on my side so I waited 15 mins slowly walk out were I was head back try hunt that spot next day.but it true rut does start out in diffent ways
@TheRaghorn
4 жыл бұрын
Every buck I have ever killed chasing does or coming past me grunting has been from November 5th to November 9th, and all but 2 have been on the 7th or 8th.
@wvhoundsman
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Facts
@travispovey6225
3 жыл бұрын
Would buck to doe ratio's effect if those hot does are getting bread in that first couple weeks? Where I live we have a LOT of does.
@JA-xv8qk
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good. The bucks im seeing only come in to feed at night or 5 in morning.
@curtismanning5802
3 жыл бұрын
I have hunted for 61 years and taken 174 deer and have never been able to determine the time deer start and stop rutting.
@TheBuckPsych
3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion light as a lot to do with it but temperature does too. regardless cold gets them up on their feet but temps i think trigger an instinct to get it done before winter
@ddouin1
3 жыл бұрын
Don, I tend to agree with your views on the 4 rut myths, but I do have a couple comments/clarifications based on what I’ve experienced. I spend most of my time hopping around the southern 2/3rds of Illinois hunting various chunks public/private ground. I’ve noticed that how much a buck travels during the rut is mostly dependent on terrain/structure of the land, availability of does, and individual personalities of bucks. The way I understand your property sits in East central IL, you’re basically on an island of cover, with a few fence rows and ditches. On this island, there are plenty of does, food, and cover, so you’re going to have a lot of homebodies. Then there are your bucks that tend to travel a lot more, and use those fence rows and ditches to travel checking does on various islands of cover. You’re probably better at capturing those roamers on camera than most people, so you’ll get their pictures year after year when they’re on the outskirts of their range. On different farms though, where cover is much more available all throughout that region, it’s much harder to capture those roamers on camera. You’re capturing deer on a treeline that’s 10 yards wide before it expands into a larger chunk of cover, but a lot of guys are trying to capture those roamers on 100 acres of thick honeysuckle choked timber without those small necked down pinchpoints. This is where “new” bucks come from. There’s just no way to cover all entry/exit routes into large, cover-rich farms, or even small farms in the midst of large tracts of cover. This is especially true in areas with vast expanses of river bottom timber with low-average numbers of does. Those types of areas are where bucks have to travel the most because they have to in order to find the does. Again, in my opinion, those 3 factors (terrain/structure, doe density, buck personality) affect how much and how often a mature buck travels during the rut.
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I think you just helped make my point that most of those bucks were there all along but just not seen/photographed. I am not saying that a "new" buck never wanders into an area but it doesnt happen near as often as many hunters think. I literally cannot remember the last buck ( 3 1/2 and older) I saw from a stand during the rut that I did not have a photo of. I also run cameras on a couple dozen properties and during the rut I rarely get a photo of a new buck. I get their photos in October so the were there before the rut started. There are more "new" bucks moving into areas in the late season than the rut and this is due to limited quality food sources.
@dannyknapp515
3 жыл бұрын
Great info thank you , I don’t understand how you can hunt everyday in November for 25 years . Once we kill a deer our hunting is over due to tag limit
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
2 buck tags in my home state, setting lofty goals and not compromising, valuing the hunt more than the kill, hunting out of state, etc
@dannyknapp515
3 жыл бұрын
@@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147 ahh gotcha thanks for the reply keep the videos coming
@andyw237
3 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks for sharing! the best of us know how the rut actually works in reality. looking forward to more content and advice.
@jj-ve9wy
2 жыл бұрын
Well,since he has 40 years experience and can hunt everyday in November it make him what you might call the expert. Unlike us one week in November guys.
@jacobrunklewithjacobscount4248
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of this information. I agree with most of it with the exception of the "new" buck theory. I wanted to add pictures. We lease about 2000 acres total and had trail cam photos of a split brow 9 pt on our property last year and the buck was killed a few miles down the rd.
@Hammerback0
2 жыл бұрын
I have only 40 acres and for the past 5 years, 3 of the years a new buck came during rut. Maybe coincidence, may not be
@markdelisle5957
Жыл бұрын
Good common sense information presented in a professional manner. I agree with you 100% even though I was the Hunter that only got weekends to hunt in the past I am now retired and spend as much time in the woods. Every year I learn more about whitetails and their habits from personal experience and enjoy every minute. Thank you.
@kerrygies3682
10 ай бұрын
Just walked outside yoteys sounding everywhere think differently than I did 25 yes ago
@sbhcmcc
3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. 2 years ago on December 23rd I killed a really nice buck chasing a yearling doe
@jamesroberts4143
3 жыл бұрын
Never hunted much disabled but i got 5 very small does coming out in fieldin evening behind my three story house north Georgia i sit with my screen of in top story 8 point buck ran thru wide open my uncle spooked him up own his property when crank tractor should i just stay own them young does or move to my bottoms to try find mature does
@danielmcbride4828
3 жыл бұрын
He'll be back if he's that close to houses he's used to being spooked around there in the houses he will be back the buck will come home to get his doe you'll get him good luck buddy
@ArnieT1958
3 жыл бұрын
Wow enjoyed!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!!
@azycray4801
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed that there is one rut and it begins same time every year. But, the bucks will follow an estrus urine trail well outside the rut, before or after. I have watched a buck follow my trail from scenting my boots with estrus pee in mid December. I'd say right to my stand but he never made it that far. Just because it's not the rut yet or it's already over does not mean estrus urine is not an effective tool. It may not be rut anymore, but those bucks that find an estrus trail outside of the rut are going to follow it just in case. So, I'm just curious when do you start using estrus scent? Do you think it can be too early or too late to use estrus urine? I love your channel!
@KyleC0430
4 жыл бұрын
If it worked for you then I wouldnt worry about any one else’s opinion! If you shot a buck in December trailing your boots then try again sure it will work again
@azycray4801
3 жыл бұрын
@@KyleC0430 Not worried about it and plan to keep doing it but I do respect the input from someone with Don's experience what ever his opinion. I take it and put it in the mix. I'm never too old to learn something. I might adjust my technique a tad.
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
I dont use estrous scents
@azycray4801
3 жыл бұрын
@@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147 Why not?
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
@@azycray4801 I dont think it works 99% of the time and probably does more to alert MATURE bucks than it attracts. Just my opinion
@sascotttx5145
3 жыл бұрын
Is that pretty much consistent from upstate New York to South Texas?
@chasinggiantswithhigginsou6147
3 жыл бұрын
That is in regards to the Midwest
@knightnrmer
3 жыл бұрын
I agree on the rut . I think the bucks are moving in anticipation and checking thier whole area while thier food sources change . Low pressure.. I see the bucks in the bedding areas where all the doe are . I think what we call the rut is actually pre-rut . ( scrapes and rubs ) . Rut is when your best friend found a chicky and he disappeared .... lol . Hunting is the best experience of being in the woods . I love the wild . Well .... i had a bear run 6 feet in front of me when I was sitting by a tree .... i didn't love that . That was scary .
@JustinMentionedIt
3 жыл бұрын
16:14 is accurate for western Kentucky , every picture I have of a doe getting bred in January has been a yearling doe so far , over 10 years of pics
@kcavery7968
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree on the moon/rut
@DeansMayhem
10 ай бұрын
Great information, thanks for sharing it.
@tacticalfarmer_310
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you for making this video. I've been bow hunting for 30 yes and always thought there was a 2nd rut.
@gotmilk4382
4 жыл бұрын
I live in Barbour county Alabama. That's southeastern Alabama on the state line. The rut here is spread out so much that it starts in October in some areas where it can still be seen occurring in March in other areas. Trust me I have seen it happen here.
@Gillslayer92
Жыл бұрын
Man you hit this on the dot. My neighbor always says look the deer are in rut, every year because he starts seeing different bucks. Oddly we are with 500 yards of each others setup usually and we tend to have different deer consistently. I have a small 5 acres hard to hunt for sure. Neighbor has 10 next to alfalfa field.
@dennypitman5272
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed the same things from almost identical experiences. Great video sir!!
@davidjohnston7325
2 жыл бұрын
It's true nothing to do with the moon or a full moon thnkx
@TheHuntinfool69
3 жыл бұрын
As always, top notch information and thanks for giving it.
@1HandySavage
3 жыл бұрын
I heard what you said. Im struggling this season. I liked your vid and I heard what you said about not seeing the buck doesnt mean they are not already there. Don't know how people missed that but that explains why they also are here is they aren't paying attention. Thanks for the tips
@muskeyr2543
3 жыл бұрын
I agree and trust your opinion, I’ve been hunting Deer for 35years...I’m sure you have more time with Deer than I ever have. Thanks for the info. Ont, Canada!
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