@@CaelTaylor_22 I'm all for it if the Redwoods were to stay close
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
@@wafteers7080 I think you are in luck!
@Marylandbrony
Жыл бұрын
Baltimore naturally, also Toronto has its massive market and Canada has seemingly been abandoned by the PLL since the Pandemic and also my stretch city is San Francisco. It's a surprisingly lacrosse hot spot.
@travisczech8772
Жыл бұрын
Minnesota Waterdogs baby!! Excellent video btw
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support and I hope you get your squad!
@14Saberman
Жыл бұрын
We were CRUSHED when the swarm left. We NEED a team!!!!
@wafteers7080
Жыл бұрын
They moved to Atlanta the exact year I moved to Minnesota. I was crushed 😢
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
@@wafteers7080 brutal...although I may need to add your moving habits into my data analysis next time 😉
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine. Hopefully my data is right for your sake!
@brianjohnson4648
Жыл бұрын
@@wafteers7080 Georgia got a 🏆 with OUR team! Heart breaking.
@ethanbodie1057
10 ай бұрын
Awesome analysis!
@OffBallLax
9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@theresapetty8068
11 ай бұрын
Boston
@benjaminrohrbacher9286
11 ай бұрын
kind of a hot take, and off topic a bit, but i would LOVE to see the PLL acquire the NLL and start a winter PLL box lacrosse league, if i got the opportunity to watch the (hopefully california) redwoods play the san diego seals on the field in august, and then on the rink in january, that would be so cool from a fan perspective. especially if we keep the sixes series, then theres a super cool triple crown opportunity, more opportunity for more lacrosse exposure on a larger and more varied scale, and year round opportunities for players to play (and earn money)
@OffBallLax
10 ай бұрын
I like that...Triple Crown
@benjaminrohrbacher9286
10 ай бұрын
@@OffBallLax it'd probably be a little difficult logistically, but from a player perspective I'm sure just having one league, one team, one point or contact is a lot easier than our current set up
@Marylandbrony
Жыл бұрын
The answer is surprisingly simple. Have 4 teams in the northeast the four biggest lacrosse markets (New York City, Philadelphia, Boston and Baltimore) and 4 teams for Canada (Toronto) the Midwest (Chicago/Columbus), the South (Charlotte, Atlanta, Dallas) and one for the west (Dallas maybe, Denver, San Francisco, Los Angeles). No one should be a day trip in the Northeast by car/rail and everywhere else by a flight from a team.
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
We're thinking pretty close...regional speaking.
@johnryan1901
Жыл бұрын
Bringing back the Long Island Lizards baby!
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't sound like a bad idea to me
@hundoracer
Жыл бұрын
Minnesota is hungry!
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
I agree! Time to get fed.
@BenjaminShewan
Жыл бұрын
Need a team in Atlanta. Georgia has become one of the best growing lax spots in the country
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
Growth is good but support of the teams is a must! I don't think you're there yet. But keep supporting the league and encourage those around you to do the same!
@brianjohnson4648
Жыл бұрын
How perfect would the name fit for Minnesota Waterdogs!! BOOM!! BIG TIME YES FOR MINNESOTA!!
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
Crossing fingers for you
@adamzoltie7387
Жыл бұрын
What a fascinating video! So impressed with the work out into this. Thanks so much for helping a UK fan deep dive into the sport and follow the PLL from over the pond. First season as a PLL fan and it’s videos like this which make it easier (and more fun) to follow the teams, league, players, history, clubs and whole Lax community 🥍
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
I love this post and thanks for sharing! Glad this information was helpful for you. My last two videos also hit on picking a team (based on US NFL teams) and how to watch on TV if you have any interest. Appreciate the support across the pond!
@adamzoltie7387
Жыл бұрын
@@OffBallLax yes, I’ve seen them. Thanks again for putting those vids together. Unfortunately, we struggle with things like ESPN+ etc in the UK as the channel’s not that big over here to have it’s own steaming service (you might be able to get it via a Hulu stick but it’s not common). I’m having to make-do with the highlights on YT & the PLL app (which is fine coz the live games are on at stupid o’clock for me anyway most of the time. Re: choosing teams, I have really scientific method which I use for picking any US sports team - go for the name/logo which I think sounds cool! 🤦🏻♂️ So Chaos it is for me…but in all honesty, I just love the sport (I was actually my college’s LAX captain many years ago) and am just enjoying getting back into it and watching all the teams. So I’m not ready to bleed red and black for the ‘oas…yet! Keep up the amazing work and thank you again. 🙏🏻
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
@@adamzoltie7387 I hear you on the difficulties and tough timing. I was in Amsterdam during the Championship series and tried to see if I could catch some, only to have it blacked out. Bummer. Thanks again for the support and I can cheer for Chaos too...as long as they aren't playing the Redwwods 😁
@matthewwears7610
Жыл бұрын
I hope that my home state of Florida gets a team.
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately for you all in the sunshine state, FL has been pulled off the list for finalist this go around. Maybe in the future!
@PaulyB77
Жыл бұрын
Couple Points: 1. I think you have to factor in the amount of Pro Sports team and or lack there of in a given area. People have a certain amount of money there are willing to spend on entertainment, one would argue where there are less options for Pro Sports, you have more likely hood sports enthusiast in the area, would get behind a PLL team in the area. 2. Drive Time: Louisville, Columbus and Cincinnati, are all within a days drive of over 50% of the population of the US. Makes it easier for fans to travel. This is a great video, and clearly you put some work in to get the data, I just don’t how after all the effort to build the data, you went away from what they data was telling you with some of your picks. I think the Great Lakes and the Carolinas will both get teams, and you lose one from the Eastern Block. Great Job!
@PaulyB77
Жыл бұрын
Last Thing, PLL chose Louisville for the All Star Game. I don’t think that was a random pic, I think it was to test the market, oh, and that Louisville/KY has some of the highest growth in tourism due to the Bourbonism.
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS. You are absolutely right that this is just pulling the data and looking at it from a high level and it already took hours. In theory you could dig deeper than state level and get to the county to find better data to help cases for each location. Similar to what you are talking about with those cities. Your point 1 is absolutely one I wrestled with early but didn't hold onto the further I went into this. It's such a great point! I could see one of my two NY teams getting booted for another location like the Great Lakes. I just felt like if it comes down to Great Lakes or Carolinas...Carolina's gets the nod. And a lot of that is based on Paul Rabil's comments on his KZitem channel.
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulyB77 And this is exactly what they should be doing with their neutral site games when possible. Test out other markets and grow the game!
@bitmonkey9267
Жыл бұрын
Great video, like the methodology. However, I find it hard to see them passing up on Texas (DFW) from a potential market standpoint. So much focus and money spent on youth sports here, and leaving it off the list creates a big void in the South on your region map. Sticking to the touring model would help them mitigate the possible low initial engagement, but I do think they need to plant a flag and grow the sport here.
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
You're not wrong. I can see it possibly happening!
@EliHackett-fm4of
10 ай бұрын
Ever seen a Panther City Lacrosse Club game? Judging by the camera footage no one else in DFW has either... As a primarily NLL fan (Knighthawks) it bums me out seeing PCLC doing well in a nearly empty stadium. From what I've heard that might also have to do with their specific location and difficulty getting to it? You'd think there would be some great support behind that team but the attendance doesn't seem to show it. Maybe a team that's more specifically Texan sounding and a more accessible venue would actually get support. Maybe Texans just don't care about box lacrosse? (I didn't either until I started going to Knighthawk games)
@OffBallLax
10 ай бұрын
@@EliHackett-fm4of I need to do a better job this winter trying to get into NLL. I fail everytime...just hasn't clicked for me yet
@harrisonmvh
Жыл бұрын
Charlotte baby!!
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you. I feel like there's a good chance. Keep up the noise and PLL can't ignore you all!
@mr.wilmot2950
Жыл бұрын
Most Sports Obsessed Data super flawed. It’s based off of internet searches. There is a city in Wisconsin named La Crosse - no doubt they were searching that city, not the sport.
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
I could definitely see a search on Google trends suggesting Lacrosse. I didn't weigh it heavily at all in my PLLVIS calculation. I thought it was more fun than anything.
@DBrownie99
Жыл бұрын
We definitely need to go further west with teams it’s a good shout to have around four teams in that north eastern region but it would be better to probably take away a team or two and move it either further south or further west possibly north we just need new hotbeds for lacrosse to spring to other sides of the country Utah is coming up with big crowd support as well as being the bubble stadium of choice and Utah definitely needs at least another sport under their belt but we do need more teams to come this way west
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
There are still chances to take neutral site games anywhere! And most importantly for the league is wherever they go they have to make money or they won't sustain the league. Best thing that could happen for Utah is show up in big numbers next month.
@micahblackwell5717
Жыл бұрын
Definitely see getting a team here in Colorado. The mammoth have won on the NLL and we had the outlaws for the MLL. The youth clubs are definitely making strong statements on the national level also DU and Trevor Baptiste trains at the gym in my town and does alot for the inner city lacrosse. We do turn on our teams when its bad though lol (rockies and broncos) but we definitely support when they nake runs (avalanche, Mammoth and nuggets)
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
I can see the appetite for lacrosse in CO all the way out here in PA. Keep up the good work out there and I think you can enjoy your "Home" team next year.
@yeet3822
Жыл бұрын
Boston Cannons, boom squad baby🔥😊
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
I'd be SHOCKED if you don't get your wish 💣
@ISeeWhatYouDidTheir
Жыл бұрын
Hey man, really enjoyed the video and the analysis was A1! My only opinion, and I know I’m a biased Texan, is that Texas needs a team. I think it’s a perfect market for the PLL to grow the game in and expand the image of lacrosse from an “East Coast” sport.
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
I was expecting to come up with Texas as a region before I started this. It's literally the data that I saw that cause pause. I def agree it should be in the plans for the PLL, I'm just afraid for you...it's not year. But that doesn't mean you won't get a neutral site game!
@ISeeWhatYouDidTheir
Жыл бұрын
@@OffBallLax Either way I'll be supporting the sport!
@OldirtyTACO
Жыл бұрын
I love how Wisconsin is an up and coming market for Lacrosse! UW Madison needs to turn it's club team into a D1 team and start taking on Marquette, Michigan, and OSU!
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
Someone else probably correctly reported. The publishers of the report may have failed to differentiate between Lacrosse the sport and LaCrosse the Wisconsin city. I like to pretend ignorantly that the state of Wisconsin just loves lax.
@necrophage12
Жыл бұрын
I want Pittsburgh to have a team. We have a lot of lacrosse growing here but the market for pros hasn't really been tested here at all so I think it will just be overlooked. Nice thing about Pittsburgh too is that it could cover all of PA, Ohio, West Virginia, and Maryland. It is also sports crazy with Steelers, and Penguins fans everywhere. Also I want Chaos.
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
I hear you on the Pittsburgh team. 412 Lax isn't too shabby, but I'm not seeing the league going there yet. Frankly that's why I'm game for a PA team. Let it bounce between Philly, Pittsburgh, and maybe Hershey (big wish there).
@CaelTaylor_22
Жыл бұрын
I love your videos ❤
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
🙏
@CaelTaylor_22
Жыл бұрын
I’m subscribed
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!!!
@waterbug314
Жыл бұрын
I'm a Midwest fan. I think I can speak confidently for ~6 states, that we know we're not getting a team, and considering the fact there's only going to be ONE stop per year? I think giving the region a solid weekend vacation spot, is better than building on strictly backyard attendance analytics. If that's gonna be the model for a while? Nobody wants to go to Minneapolis or Columbus, OH..... Give us Chicago. Or Nashvegas. I'll be there every year. I'm not ponying up for a college town or freakin' Minnesota.
@OffBallLax
Жыл бұрын
I hear you on make those games in more destination areas. This will help the fan commit to the weekend and be able to sprinkle in some fun while not at the games!
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