Crazy thing is, killing players lower level than you doesn't give any luck at all. So all these kids that sit on the beach or at the ports waiting for someone to come by, 5 v 1, then saying "ez, bozo, trash" are literally doing nothing but wasting everyone's time and making a fool of themselves. And I agree 100% of the enchants. Something like that shouldn't be locked behind rng, enchants should be high mid/late game content that players can acquire through quests and trials that scale with players and their power level, players that put in 10 hours to get a character to power 50 should be able to take up the challenge to earn an enchant rather than run around mindlessly killing everything insight praying to get lucky, then they see a power 12 or something with The curse of the Bloodthirty or the Hero enchantment. This game is gonna be rogue all over again but with better combat by mid-January. I literally just want to explore and find new shit but I can't cause everyone is so bloodthirsty and wants to kill you on sight. If anyone says "skill issue" then ratio + you're retarded + get off deepwoken and shower
@samuelmcl.9474
2 жыл бұрын
Amen brother
@romitsu968
2 жыл бұрын
Lord Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life: No one comes to the Father, except through Him.
@samuelmcl.9474
2 жыл бұрын
@@romitsu968 please shut the fuck up jesus got gripped by the romans
@romitsu968
2 жыл бұрын
@@samuelmcl.9474 Please repent of your sins and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ. Call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and ask for His forgiveness and confess and repent of your sins, and believe in your heart the Lord Jesus Christ rose from the dead on the third day after His death on the cross for the sin of all and all to come. That includes your sins, turn to the Lord Jesus Christ, for the Lord Jesus Christ loves you, be a lost sheep no longer and come to the shepherd. Please the Lord Jesus Christ loves you.
@samuelmcl.9474
2 жыл бұрын
@@romitsu968 and on the third day jesus wiped massive L my guy why would I let him put a vow of mastery on me headass
@samuelmcl.9474
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who really enjoys this game and has never played Rogue, I agree with the majority of your points. The ping is godawful, and the fact that whole ass clans camp major traffic spots just to gank freshies 1v5 is obnoxious. That said, once the game has its rough ping issues and glitches smoothed out, Id be very happy.
@FortixVortix
2 жыл бұрын
The ping is most likely your wifi. (I can agree i do get some little ping spikes but they don't fuck up the gameplay. Sooo..)
@mrseth1094
2 жыл бұрын
@@FortixVortix umm its not tho... if you get a shitty region at around 300-500 ms it literally ruins the gameplay
@Bruh.Andrew
2 жыл бұрын
@@FortixVortix no I literally get better ping in a low player count Tokyo server than an America (where I live) it’s so bad
@Himmmothy
2 жыл бұрын
@@FortixVortix no it’s not the wifi it’s the fucking server it’s so shitty I can hop on another game and my ping is literally straight up 30-40 while in deepwoken I’m averaging 100+
@trace1506
2 жыл бұрын
bro i lagit want a system where you can chose your region server on god
@muggyrhombus6615
2 жыл бұрын
After exploring all the islands it starts to feel like a grinder game
@petrifiedpencil
2 жыл бұрын
Because it is
@-_World_-
2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was gonna be an annoying rant about how he complains and blames everything on the game for how he is so garbage at the combat, but turns out this is actually a pretty enjoyable video and he has some good points that I completely agree with
@randomrave6635
2 жыл бұрын
Fax it was actually so true but the only reason I haven't given up on the game is that u can efficiently get ur lives back by leveling up (unlike rouge)
@potatosalad4594
2 жыл бұрын
@@randomrave6635 yeah technically you could live forever if you’e high level and master fighting the enforcer.
@Panda-Squad100
2 жыл бұрын
The main problem is ping, everything else is just skill issues or just "facts" that aren't even true.
@potatosalad4594
2 жыл бұрын
@@Panda-Squad100 well the point of fighting the same things over and over still stands, at low levels-medium levels fight mostly bandits and at high levels you fight the same monsters.
@Panda-Squad100
2 жыл бұрын
@@potatosalad4594 the bandit range from heavy weapon, medium weapon, to light weapons, some can parry some cant. They are not all the same and sometimes bandits spawn right on top of you as bandits "jump" or surprise you. The fighting isn't the same, and if you're looking you can fight varied NPCs. Playing alone is fun but playing with friends and screwing around is much more fun.
@po1ariser
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like they should've went the starscape server route where each island or region is its own different gameplace (this helps with server issues and frames), the only issue i honestly see is that ships entering via the same spawnpoint could cause a ton of camping people
@veralisk
2 жыл бұрын
The reason this isn't working is because ROBLOX's particle + loading bug disables a feature which would allow ping to be much more smooth.
@crimsonvirgo
2 жыл бұрын
I think they are kinda doing that since they will probably release other areas of the map (for example the central luminant). I think you mean they should make the different areas smaller. But at the same time updating all areas of the map would become significantly harder with smaller areas so they have no choice. They should make it so effects and npc and players in a certain range are invisible to the player if they arent already doing that.
@gokangames5331
2 жыл бұрын
Roblox disabled streaming and it's a feature that disables islands when your not close to it so that could be a huge part of the lag problem
@Gherkins
2 жыл бұрын
Ships coming in through one place is already a thing in dw, so I see no downsides to this
@invictusblizzero
2 жыл бұрын
@@gokangames5331 This isn't how Streaming works. Streaming has no impact on client ping - it exists to help reduce memory usage, and by extension, improve performance. The issue with Deepwoken is the server's ping.
@reaper9039
2 жыл бұрын
I feel that most of the problems could be fixed with some better optimization, a couple more bosses, and some tweaks with the talents
@tropicola6015
2 жыл бұрын
Fax
@dylanminorhero
2 жыл бұрын
☝️
@eduarddez4416
2 жыл бұрын
and late game zone , since high lvl players just randomly kill me in lower erisia for absolutely no reason saying ""gg ez"
@treyyert9561
2 жыл бұрын
ong
@tropicola6015
2 жыл бұрын
@@eduarddez4416 there's already a late game zone called the depths
@Suillus_Luteus
2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the gates you go through while sailing, I was like: “oh, those must be like, the loading zone boarders, good to know.” I was absolutely dumbfounded when I found out the entire goddamn map was a single area.
@faint.2396
2 жыл бұрын
Wym by loading zone boarders?
@0nlyKing.
2 жыл бұрын
@@faint.2396 Like it’d teleport you to the island
@faint.2396
2 жыл бұрын
@@0nlyKing. oh alright thanks
@Suillus_Luteus
2 жыл бұрын
@@faint.2396 Not sure if there's a better term, but basically just the things that indicate which area of a game you are loaded into. For instance, entering whiterun in skyrim or something.
@faint.2396
2 жыл бұрын
@@Suillus_Luteus ok thanks
@cryo7847
2 жыл бұрын
the map DOES use an unloading "chunk"-like system, it's very easy to tell because you can barely see shit ahead while you're sailing. that's because the game unloads anything not within a certain distance of you. (its also why your render distance seems to "cap out" at graphics quality 5: even going beyond that, the game will unload everything so you can't see it anyways) that being said, the optimizations simply arent enough. the server performance is really what kills this game
@lulinhass927
2 жыл бұрын
And sadly they cannot do anything about It. Roblox was not built to support big games...
@PuddleOfCats
2 жыл бұрын
@@lulinhass927 They could cut the server in half [literally], 10/12 player servers, hive and general late game islands in a diff server compared to ersia/etris islands
@Lucian4694
2 жыл бұрын
@@PuddleOfCats that would make flooding a lot easier for big guilds, idk if you view that as good or bad but itd be hard to join friends and itd be easy for servers to become at or near 100% ppl in the same or allied guilds
@Lucian4694
2 жыл бұрын
@Big Boy Jonathan's garden yeah, it loads stuff in in "chunks" but it doesnt unload anything causing lag when you travel
@pumpk1nn283
2 жыл бұрын
The server unloading thing actually rarely unloads things, how it mainly does it is that it only loads things near you when you spawn and then loads things as you get near them. HOWEVER, once you're in a server for a long time you'll eventually have every island loaded and it'll make you start lagging more. Tons of games are like this, just like WOM and Demonfall.
@vHawt
2 жыл бұрын
You Forgot the Part when Rag Gave youtubers like Nano/Infernasu etc tester, and now all they do is make videos showing op shit and all of them are stronger than everyone in the game, and they show late game stuff, (stuff I want to find on my own exploring the game). An some people say (just dont watch the videos they make) But I feel obligated to watch them because I don't want to be left behind and be weaker than everyone else. ps. I still dont understand why Rag gave them tester, the game already generated hype without them, and also he said he would not have Rogue lineage Mods at Deepwoken Mods, but if u look everyone is a mod in DW that was a mod in RL
@spy_penguin28.5
2 жыл бұрын
ye i share the same opinion as you Hawt. The game seems like it revolves around a lot of exploration and knowledge of how to obtain things However this is undermined by all the youtubers posting their “How to get…” videos which takes away the aspect of searching for items/places. I feel like this is why there’s so many people in the game who are already in the mid-late end stages and are starved of content cuz they don’t wanna farm the same NPCs/Monsters that they’ve fought. And if you don’t want to spoil yourself by watching the vids then you are absolutely right that you would be at a disadvantage since everyone else has watched them and know what they are doing besides you, who is trying to play the game the way it was intended (by finding things out on your own and not by watching 10 videos)
@nifty1972
2 жыл бұрын
Plus youtubers time in the game will not be spent on actually testing the game and actively scouting out glitches as much as they are doing HoW tO bEat SHarko in deepwoken.
@Brandeums
2 жыл бұрын
What most of the big youtubers videos are about stuff the community has found, when the way of getting bells are common knowledge then they make a video. As far as I can tell they literally only make "how to videos" on stuff that literally almost no one would have found out on their own. Like getting Way of Navae. WHO IS GONNA FIND THAT SHIZ?? Deepwoken is definetly benefited by knowledge, but knowing how to do something and being able to do something. are two different things. Everyone can know how to fight the duke, but a freshie isn't gonna kill a duke. Small youtubers are the ones you should be complaining about leaking. Because the big ones do stuff when the community knows. Why do you think Nano never once leaked bells?
@aidenjohnson1241
2 жыл бұрын
lol just dont watch the videos not their problem that you feel "obligated"
@gimbly8801
2 жыл бұрын
@@Brandeums pretty sure the hostages begs you to take them into the nomad camp when you attempt to grip them. Now I don't know about you but I don't think anyone reads or give a shit what NPCs say when gripped, and it being a fist style (light) requirement for a faction primarily wielding spears (medium) is beyond random
@navid7588
2 жыл бұрын
another issue is with the combat system, it relies heavily on parrying which requires good timing, normally this wouldn't be an issue but because of the massive lag spikes you can't time it and you end up being put into these inf combos by dagger wielding bandits and you can't do anything to get out because your parry is delayed and it's not like you can roll out of it, game won't allow it and block won't work either so you lose your progress, now normally this wouldn't be a giant problem cause you can respawn but not in deepwoken since it's a game that wipes you.
@muuuson
2 жыл бұрын
fax
@shnorksnam9575
2 жыл бұрын
i think you’re just bad
@chriswatches5481
2 жыл бұрын
Good video and has actually criticism hopefully rag looks past the title and gives this vid a chance
@TheAngelArrow
2 жыл бұрын
he probably has the most massive ego on the planet, he's friends with snakeworl after all, highly doubt he'll listen to anyone without massive clout
@chelseacomps829
2 жыл бұрын
Why would he look past a click baiting title? “This game is garbage, I play it a lot though” completely defeats the point he’s trying to make and going with a flashy title like that only attracts negative attention.
@ryanthezombie8600
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAngelArrow bro rag is the coolest dev
@FortixVortix
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAngelArrow never met the guy so you can't even say that but hopefully this is an opinion
@babaloons4887
2 жыл бұрын
@@chelseacomps829 Whats wrong with playing a game that u find garbage? Like i love r6 but that game is shit but so unique so i continue playing it because i know i wont find a fps that plays the same way so.
@hydrax7131
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, it really does highlight some massive flaws within the game - chief amongst them being the terrible servers and ping issues. I cannot for the life of me find a half decent server to play the game on, a game that I paid for mind you... However, I do think the game is fantastic and without the performance issues is genuinely a great game. Good video though.
@rykage149
2 жыл бұрын
It isnt deepwoken lagging its roblox, they havent fixed the effect glitch it affects all games
@saasdsadasgamer2596
2 жыл бұрын
I live in South East Asia and I've been having a rather hard time to find a decent Singapore server. Even if I find one, the ping sometimes is 200+ and I have to ditch it because I can't parry shit with that ping.
@traceable7875
2 жыл бұрын
@@saasdsadasgamer2596 theyve optimised the game a lot already. A quick tip, use Ethernet and reduce startup islands (you would be surprised how much lag is cpu). This is coming from an nz player (closest to the point furthest away from any landmass).
@dannyzoe5333
2 жыл бұрын
What triggers me more is that guilds doing fresh spawn killing and the lag can't even compare
@danielzip8785
2 жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed this game at its release, when everyone explored, tested mantras, gave tips and helped out with beating monsters. Now it's a monkeywoken. Griping zoo. Why can't just those campers and gripers get back to rouge? Why they're ruining game with amazing mechanics just to make players hate this game again?(rouge died cause of this) Or i am wrong? I just never attacked player first because i know it will hurt him mentally. Game is amazing but the community hold L again.
@itzmisf1t470
2 жыл бұрын
It isn’t that hard to fight back against most people. PERSONALLY I have been able to fight back against every single person who has fought me regardless of power difference and put up a good fight. The only time I haven’t been able to is because of lag. That’s just my experience obviously their are some really unbalanced things in the game but if the community makes note of it enough they will get changed
@danielzip8785
2 жыл бұрын
@@itzmisf1t470 Actually people do attack me only when im at campfire or fighting NPC's. Yeah i can win most of players who attack me (even when they run away i count it as win) But i just want to play in peace, why can't they just go back to Rouge and keep normal pacific community?
@itzmisf1t470
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielzip8785 playing in peace isn’t the kind of game this is.
@Akodakun
2 жыл бұрын
@@itzmisf1t470 The problem is when you get 1v4'd by a guild of high levels trying to boost their freshie friend's luck. Yeah you could probably fold them in a 1v1, but getting 20% of your hp deleted from an m1 while facing off against 3 of these monsters is a different story
@itzmisf1t470
2 жыл бұрын
@@Akodakun I've won those fights before but you gotta be careful. I usually avoid high groups of people or servers full of nothing but huge guilds cuz if you join and stay in those servers you're kind of asking for it
@justincaldwell8954
2 жыл бұрын
One more point. The RNG systems rewarding people that PvP means that the people killing all the players just get stronger. It’s like a snowballing effect, after sailing thru the void sea solo, you have nothing to lose but kill everyone and use rare talents to do it
@dom5101
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the ping part. They also need to nerf moves like pressure blast which send you flying with a fat aoe. I can just blast most players and npcs off a cliff with pressure blast (greatsword mantra).
@smooshplat
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly such a great video, I’m also glad that you just didn’t go on a huge rant too. I agree with basically all of your points, especially the obnoxious ping and ways to get luck
@muuuson
2 жыл бұрын
his luck point was kinda invalid to my knowledge you don't get luck unless you beat someone who is higher power than you
@dgc0312
2 жыл бұрын
refuse deep garbage hop on dark souls
@fate7845
2 жыл бұрын
There’s a huge skill gap. As you can see, he has an enforcer axe which means he could legit hit the guy 3 times and he’s dead.
@Mattychii
2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@turboglider505
2 жыл бұрын
Skill gap BatChest
@gavingarcia7362
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly, he didnt parry basically any of the moves either. He also was fighting against a guy with a targe, which means most likely he had no fortitude.
@Pixel3572
2 жыл бұрын
And then he proceeds to blame his loss on the hero’s blade, which legit just an elemental sword. Nothing crazy, it just scales of attunement. And then he proceeds to call SHADOW the best magic like lmao shadow?!
@Pixel3572
2 жыл бұрын
I’m fine with people having issues on the game when the critique is actually good. This guy had a few good points, like the server and ping issue. And then proceeds to insult the game because he was in a 1v4, when he was the one who won further proving that this is a skill based game, also he ignored the fact that 2 of the 4 had shadow magic, you know the one he called op. He also complains about luck, when there are systems in place stopping higher lvls from targeting freshies. And complains about bells when he admits to knowing nothing about them. TL;DR: he doesn’t know anything about this game.
@bjarkibjarkibjarki
2 жыл бұрын
One thing that's pretty disappointing about Deepwoken imo is the lack of build variety. I came into the game expecting to be able to make all kinds of builds, but in reality you'll always be prioritizing fortitude, weapon mastery and magic, and then slightly upgrading other stuff *if* you have points available. So everyone feels just... the same. Even in rogue, although you had literally identical builds if you went the same class as someone else, at least every class was different and unique. Also, you're completely right about the ping part of the game, holy shit it is actually so terrible...
@lulinhass927
2 жыл бұрын
Are you being genuine?
@bjarkibjarkibjarki
2 жыл бұрын
@@lulinhass927 Yeah?
@macintoshcomputingdevice8016
2 жыл бұрын
bro fortitude is one of the most ass stats its .5 hp per level
@kaden-sd6vb
Жыл бұрын
Play elden ring. Unlike wokedeepen, it's an actually good game. And the build variety is vast, customization galore. The combat is good, the exploration is good, the visual design is good, pretty much everything wokedeepen fails at(which is the majority of everything)
@insertcoolnamehere8516
2 жыл бұрын
Deepwoken was so fun on launch because everyone was willing to help each other and I made tons of friends while just messing around on erisia. Now it’s just rogue 2.0 with power 30 sweats attacking freshies thinking they’re still gonna get luck. I still enjoy it, (at least on servers in my area) but the first 4 days after launch were the golden days, and I think that’s the most fun you could have really had on deepwoken. I’m watching this while server hopping so I can hopefully get a server with somewhat reasonable ping, and in every single one I’ve been attacked by a group of people farming the sparring instructor. 3 people even tried pushing me out of spawn invincibility. Also, dagger NPC’s.
@invictusblizzero
2 жыл бұрын
Dagger NPCs are the absolute worst. They're borderline impossible to kill in the parry based combat unless you've got a mantra to quickly deal with them.
@stormahead
2 жыл бұрын
You have a really good point, I hope the devs get to see this video, so that they know what to work on in the game.
@red-lu5go
2 жыл бұрын
I literally quit this game bc i was grinding at the ice island which i wont spell the name and was trying to get my life back, and what do you know all the shadow dagger bandits bunched together and I literally couldn’t hit them bc when i swung one would parry and another would hit, and when i knocked them eventually one would get up and the cycle would repeat, eventually i got posture broken during some random ass lag spike and got killed, and when i went to the depths and tried to escape some greaselord with an elemental sword was camping the gate to the trials and gripped me. I knew that i had to stick to a better game bc i was only like level 35 and im not wasting my time to die to lagspikes and getting kicked 5 million miles off of a mountainside while trying to fight a sharko because my rolls dont get registered. And with time the game is gonna become a toxic wasteland due to the false luck rumor that literally all power 40+ players use to gank people at remote locations which is an already dumb system since if you get sent to the depths you’ll just get gripped by some elemental blade user or a group of 3 people grinding the depths
@Kapsi4Real
2 жыл бұрын
cry more
@chipmunk1611
2 жыл бұрын
As a player using a 15 yr old laptop and being in eu. I feel the pain
@apollo1809
2 жыл бұрын
8 days in and players are already quitting a game from which the devs didnt learn from their previous shit show 💀
@babaloons4887
2 жыл бұрын
Woah?!?! Hope they learn from deepwoken and make deepwoken 2 better.
@carpet652
2 жыл бұрын
As a person from rouge he isn’t wrong as rouge encouraged spawn and freshie killing so much that the devs even encouraged it so I didn’t expect anything else from deepwoken
@stine4132
2 жыл бұрын
the funny thing is literally everything here would be fixed (apart from low mob variety) if they did a skill tree and made it NOT a rogue like. You know, there's a reason MMO roguelikes don't work as real games
@themageofspace5516
2 жыл бұрын
i dont mind the roguelike aspect in fact i find it very interesting maybe it would do better as rogue lite then a rogue like but it means death actually means something and you have to really be on your toes (also you can die once and im pretty sure if your alive for long enough you regain that) but yes i agree a skill tree would be far nicer
@stine4132
2 жыл бұрын
@@themageofspace5516 losing your character for dying in a game that CANNOT have good performance shouldn't be a thing. It's a Roblox game it's bound to have ping levels as high as the mountains. Not to mention it's buggy as hell, that's why it can't be a roguelike. If it were a game that had perfect performance then death truly would be your fault. But way too much is left to luck
@themageofspace5516
2 жыл бұрын
@@stine4132 so what your saying if the performance was better then roguelike is okay?
@stine4132
2 жыл бұрын
@@themageofspace5516 I don't think a full on rogue like would be okay. But it would be tolerable. At most you should lose your items or get locked out of the character for a time imo. Not lose them
@nardezy
2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, while doing friendly PVP I reliased that my lightning mantra just doesn't do any damage at all. I've hit the enemy more times than he did me, yet I still lost. He dealt like 20% of my damage (I have ~350hp, aslo I was a higher lvl), while I barely got him to lose one bar with all the hits.
@Deadestest
2 жыл бұрын
What's disappointing is how they all advertised the game as "skill based", how freshies could fight back against high levels if they were good enough or whatever. But let's be real here, we all know none of this is true, people will always go the same build, armor, weapon. There's no variety. The game is a glorified bandit beater where whoever has more stats wins the fight.
@lordaromat3890
2 жыл бұрын
incoming kids spamming "skill issue"
@Deadestest
2 жыл бұрын
@Isaac Simpson hop on erisia see whos gonna start crying
@dajaunkata
2 жыл бұрын
@@Deadestest you shut him up lmao
@Boi-ii2lm
2 жыл бұрын
facts only man, killing a progressed guy as a freshie is literally equivalent if its not harder compared to rogue (if you haven't played rogue lineage its a game by the same guys that created deepwoken, they claimed it was gonna be more balanced than that game + it would be possible to kill progressed guys as a freshie which is not true at all) the only differences that come to this game are randomized stats on different models of equipment, literally if they would have set stats everyone would look the same
@Deadestest
2 жыл бұрын
@Isaac Simpson "how about summer company 🤓🤓🤓" bro probably never been to starswept before
@nigachad4031
2 жыл бұрын
ngl i feel like the enchant system should be like world of magic's where it buffs a certain stat by a little bit rather than making it godly
@orochimarru3362
2 жыл бұрын
im just upset at how they hyped the ever loving shit out of having creative will over spells and your character just for it all to be scrapped and replaced with some trash.
@randomman8775
2 жыл бұрын
ur right on everything, i switched to playing gpo instead of deepwoken, deepwoken was just a waste of my legit 130+ hours spent (yes, i literally looked in summary and i have 130 hours.) the luck system is horrible and it is a huge flaw of the game, even though it’s actually players that are 15 levels ahead of u or above u, it’s horrible. i mean, it’s basically someone coming in and ruining ur work and ur time spent just for “luck” which i ran a stat build without killing any players at all and still had amazing cards. so the luck system is flawed upon. they need to make the luck system to where you can only get it from fighting bosses like sharkos, owls, lion fish, etc. if they did this i would probably return to the game, but getting wiped and then someone saying “ez luck” in ur face isn’t a good feeling. just ruins ur day basically
@lulinhass927
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, most of the points are valid. The devs will probably Nerf the things when they see How busted It is (or so I Hope). Ping sadly is not in Control of the devs, it's sadly roblox being roblox, while the game can be more optimized, there's a limit to How much they can do It (one thing I noted is that only the whole Island "terrain" is formed, Monsters sometimes appear on your face, not because they spawned right in me Just because they weren't loaded in). Over all good vid, I Just think with some little tweaks Deepwoken could definetly become a better game, but sadly some of the errors can't be fixed by the game and is the consequence of trying to bring a big game to roblox. (Also I think the good point hit way harder than It looks lol)
@thunder5681
2 жыл бұрын
Performance is completely in control of devs since there are several optimizations that could be made which they havent yet.
@lulinhass927
2 жыл бұрын
@@thunder5681 I got genuinely curious could you name them? (Sorry If I sound like a douche Just got GENUINELY curious.)
@aidenjohnson1241
2 жыл бұрын
Lol no its definitely just them spawning in, they arent gonna be polite and wait for you to leave and spawn
@macintoshcomputingdevice8016
2 жыл бұрын
@@thunder5681 no its not the performance being poor is a result of a particle glitch with roblox and since the gmae uses a lot of particles it really tanks performance
@LemoonSour
2 жыл бұрын
Roblox currently has the particle bug effect which mustve caused all of the lags so unless they fix that, I dont think we have a higher chance against kids who boosted with a maxed out hero sword
@EternalPancake1
2 жыл бұрын
I can agree with some of these, in fact, some of my friends suggested the game and from trying it, so far I've experienced just a shit community while trying to learn the game. I've never levelled past power 2, I don't really know the game aside from basics and every second I interact with someone? I die from PVP because I dared to interact with other players or someone just gets the jump on me. No matter what I do I think interacting with players is completely toxic and therefore why would I wanna play this game with other people? I feel like the game feels like a single-player experience with assholes on the side that you cant do anything about because they have guilds, better equipment or simply know the game better than you while you're still trying to learn. On top of all that the ping fucks with your learning too, so how am I ever supposed to learn the game aside from being disturbed by players 24/7 for daring to try it? I actually learned to escape the depths from dying so much from random ganks or players hitting me before I even learned to fight bandits or survive in the actual game, the experience is completely messed up.
@tai9344
2 жыл бұрын
Thats actually very rare in sorry to tell you, from all the people i know, there's only you and this one person, so im guessing you play roblox rarely or have never played a game like this before? Its called hardcore
@tai9344
2 жыл бұрын
Dont get me wrong, i agree with you about the ping shit its actually annoying, however i still believe that maybe they will fix it or ot really depends on your internet, because i dont know a lot but a decent amount have decent internet like 70 ping, so it also depends on your internet
@thesovietshark8945
2 жыл бұрын
That’s what’s friends are for. You’re practically guaranteed to die without them, because someone’s just gonna jump you and shit on your progress.
@gunnyisgoodboi4846
2 жыл бұрын
I feel you bud, I hate to be another jerk who says bad at the game just press F. So I will try not to be, my recommendation is to find friends because the game is not fun for solos, and tbh doesn’t feel like it was designed for solo play, also, if your struggling with learning to fight go to the sanctuary with the guys in white cloaks they have these trainers and once you can beat them with confidence then fight bandits and you should be fine. But trust me this game is played by a long line of shitbags who have nothing better to do then ruin peoples day on a lego game, but if you can learn your way around them the game is incredibly fun. Dying is part of the game, you WILL get better and the main thing is don’t let those ez spammers drag you to their level of garbage don’t let them get to you buddy and then you will not play the game just to play it but for a sense of fun.
@phoenixwithahalfofdragon936
2 жыл бұрын
@@tai9344 no it’s called a shitty community
@ekko632
2 жыл бұрын
with 75 element that sword does less then most other 75 stat required weapons, and when you put the text "Max magic stat is 100" on the screen, the max for every stat is 100, you just have to find the trainer for said stat. Also its almost like damage scales with how high the stat that correlates with the damage is, so even if they are 5 levels higher then you, if they have maxed out fire magic and use a fire magic spell, its gonna do a lot of damage. Or, if your a heavy weapon wielder, the heavy weapon will do more damage depending on how high your heavy weapon stat is. If someone is. If i min maxed into damage but not tankiness, i would hope i do a lot of damage, because thats how i built my character. The ping and optimization i agree with though, deepwoken servers right now are laggy af, so it does make combat hard when parrying is nearly impossible. About the guilds killing freshspawns for luck, you dont get luck from people below power 10 if you are above power 10, and then if they are 15 power levels below you, you also dont get luck for gripping them. so if your power 40 and grip a power 20 you wont get luck.
@islixxn
2 жыл бұрын
Actually the element sword does 34.4 with 75 or something like that and shattered katana (high value rare drop) does 34 with 100 stat
@ekko632
2 жыл бұрын
@@islixxn difference there is i think the shattered katana has more range and a higher swing speed but correct me if im wrong cause not 100% sure
@Zenendos
2 жыл бұрын
Coming back to this 6 months later, yes this game is awful now.
@star-nh8pj
2 жыл бұрын
The community is the same as Rogue Lineage. I spawn as a freshspawn, go to the docks to sail to song or erisia, then encounter a group of people. I get knocked nearly instantly, just for them to say something ridiculous like, "wsg shawty." and proceed to delay my progression and carry me around. putting that aside, there's no cards that buff you when you're in an unfair matchup, so, you have to hope they don't have good mantras to chase you during a 1v2, 3, 4, etc.
@Reaconteur
2 жыл бұрын
this was actually a great video dropped a sub man keep it up
@wompwomp2274
2 жыл бұрын
I have a over 2 thousand pound PC and setup(not trying to flex), I live in a large town with ethernet, but still die to bandits at times (Im level 42 btw), just because I'll have a spike of over 5k ping just as I get into combat. I can't understand how over a year of playtesting, not 1 time did a developer think to split up areas of the map into entirely different games. Which could totally be done, by doing it at the gates scattered around the map in the seas.
@toastgrilled4812
2 жыл бұрын
skill issue just get better
@MannaBieker
2 жыл бұрын
The game would seriously be bearable if it wasn’t for the “questionable” servers.
@albsaures3297
2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@mrcar8057
2 жыл бұрын
manna please tell ophelia to unblock me 😭😭😭
@HeyzDexy
2 жыл бұрын
Dark souls player here. Never touched roblox or deepwoken, But I find it to be an interesting game to watch and learn about. Shame about all the shortcomings, Being in Australia I think I will skip it entirely due to poor/lack of servers.
@xmaih2580
2 жыл бұрын
pov : your a perma freshie
@chrwhish
2 жыл бұрын
He's speaking fax and I've been lv 50 on 3 diff slots 💀
@seakingslicer2417
2 жыл бұрын
If a game relies on one combat system (for deepwoken its parrying) it ends up being annoying when that isn't working out for you
@trace1506
2 жыл бұрын
the whole fuckin reason i joined deepwoken was to play and find lore and hidden shit not to be ganked by 10 lvl 60's fuckin enchant users
@aidenjohnson1241
2 жыл бұрын
dont play
@marado6165
2 жыл бұрын
They should make it that people can't hit people under level 15
@desireable_pro8780
2 жыл бұрын
The other problem with Deepwoken is that they shouldn't tell us or testers what they're gonna release next. Not only does this tell us *exactly* what to look for (like how we're expecting 4 new oaths and already know what 2 of them are called and hinted at what 1 is going to require somewhat) when the update releases, but it also doesn't leave much surprise. It's not gonna be like any other game where they add a whole new dimension. It's gonna be small updates in somewhat quick waves like once a month it's gonna be content that's gonna last the month, or would if we didn't have so much information prior to the actual update's release. By the time these builds we're trying to make are made and for example thundercall's purple lightning and ice's crystal variants methods of attainability are found, there's not much to do after that. Right now it's just make your build and wait for people to find new information on stuff that half of us can't be bothered to do because it's a hassle and honestly a waste of time if it's the wrong build and you have to wipe. I just hope this doesn't become like Rogue where level 60's are gonna be running around ganking freshies for "fun" cause there's literally nothing else to do in the game.
@nenudiable-7649
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I can agree with this I have a pretty stupid build at the moment where I got lucky enough to essentially win instantly in the water (90% of the map) with Sunken Predator and Fishman. Combine that with Trident and Thresher Claws for 45% Armor Piercing (negates a large majority of defense benefits) enemies I encounter on the seas drop like flies.
@Aquo_YT
2 жыл бұрын
Rember when any of these things were an issue? We underestimated the Deepwoken devs...
@uhhh7195
2 жыл бұрын
Most if not all of your points are valid. I dont get terrible ping thanks to daily shutdowns, but yeah most of the problems with servers originates from roblox being roblox. As for balance, I completely agree that some equipment and magics are definitely balanced by par 🤡 . Fire kinda needs a small damage nerf, shadow takes way too much ether, frost is so fucking broken, and wind received its nerf a while ago. Tbh the testers who tested the game must be tripping to let half this shit slide. The luck system really needs a rework. Guilds camping starter island and the depths really does ruin how the game is suppose to be played; its a adventuring game, not farm simulator. One way to fix this is to have something similar to conquest in rogue, where guilds can gamble their lives for loot/luck. I personally think the reason for rking is because there is no proper end game except farming. Safe zones for certain levels could work, but a bunch of problems could emerge.
@minismallists
2 жыл бұрын
The thing you say about luck is actually false, if you are 15 levels below someone they won’t get luck from you, and if you are below level 10 and their above power 10 they also won’t get any luck
@minismallists
2 жыл бұрын
Besides that, I actually really enjoy the vibes of this channel and tad, I think ima just, watch the rest of your content, and that outro music is fire
@Ben-rr4fj
2 жыл бұрын
the game isn't bad doe it's just lacking in the monster department since there are only 3 or 4 main types of monsters your will be grinding late game and early game through mid-game you are bandit beating. I think more mid game/early game monsters should be added aside from the bats and mudskipers
@reygenne1
2 жыл бұрын
@Drillz i mean the game is still technically WIP cause of the obvious issues in the game like chopping a tree and the transparent hitboxes still in the physics engine which is permanent until the trees respawn and where talking to the guy who were basically late for school just beside the blacksmith in isle of erisia or something halves the price but you need 6 notes or more to take the cloth but in the uhh im retarded so yeah you know where you basically move a picker like the ones on spinwheels which decide the result and move it like an ouija board on a 2d horizontal line which has more products to buy but more expensive, basically getting one is worth 3 note and they'll probably add more monsters, fix unbalanced things since my ping sucks balls due to the amount of players in more than 5k servers
@itsoracle
2 жыл бұрын
@@tadisbad7767 what the fuck is a tresher
@bobettethedestroyerthebuil1034
2 жыл бұрын
@@tadisbad7767 the big monster feel so under utilized, primadon doesn’t even use it’s arms just kicks and stomps
@nathwcx8299
2 жыл бұрын
@@bobettethedestroyerthebuil1034 Fr, there are videos of power 1's killing fucking Sharkos only by parrying and dodging because Sharkos have so few moves. Humanoid enemies are much better and harder to fight than monsters.
@vongockhanhduy3348
2 жыл бұрын
@@nathwcx8299 true they might as well put the random pattern for sharko when its close range.
@insupported
2 жыл бұрын
Things they really need to revamp/change in my opinion: 1. Better optimization 2. Not just parry chaining and feinting once in a while to change things up cause that’s dumb 3. “In Danger” time even when sitting at a campfire or some sort of rest spot 4. “I’ve learnt what I can from training right now, I should put it into practice” damn bruh just remove maverick or smth? 5. Freshie ganking bs from 6 random guild members 6. Gun parry timing being based off audio 7. Fortitude being easy as hell to level up 8. High power losers camping erisia for luck 9. Incentive to kill new players, in my opinion this just gives people a bad impression and you effectively made them waste money lol rip 10. Light weapons being god awful in terms of damage 11. People not knowing that gripping players that are
@tspoter
2 жыл бұрын
1. agreed 2. mantras are a thing 3. then you could go sit at a campfire mid fight and log out 4. what would removing maverick do? it's just saying u need more exp 5. agreed 6. you can also use the visuals 7. tell that to charisma 8. true, but it's not like the devs can really fix that without giant backlash 9. what's the incentive to kill new players? they gain nothing from it, even your other point (11) shows that you know this 10. idk man I had pretty solid DPS with dual guns 11. true, but once again, how would they revamp/change it? perhaps add a way to take away luck, but then that'd open a whole other can of worms with people pretending to be high levels so they'd get gripped and the other person loses luck
@B1G_DUCK
2 жыл бұрын
Luck cannot be obtained unless u kill players near ur level + u can farm luck in depths from mobs
@tameoregano5006
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but high lvl people kill so there low level friend can get the luck
@chloegpt
2 жыл бұрын
Which depths mobs give you luck?
@todsegott__1912
2 жыл бұрын
@@chloegpt enhanced mobs like mobs with a purplelish aura around them
@medicgaming101
2 жыл бұрын
Bro honestly grand piece online has been out for over a year now and it literally has no issues like deepwoken, ragoozer did not learn a single thing from rogue this dude spits faxxx
@kladenstein7849
2 жыл бұрын
I do agree with the optimization and the luck system but I cant agree with shadow magic being the best or the RNG. I wouldnt say shadow is the best magic. It can drain ether sure but most of the moves have slow windups and are predictable, making it an easy to dodge/parry magic. Also the click tp is only really good outside of combat and more of a utility thing you use, going too far can actually drain your health. The RNG exists because its an rpg game. Sure the luck system that "promotes pvp" isnt really that good of an idea, but rng is what makes most rpg games an rpg game. Resonance isnt just rng, you have to meet a certain criteria for it. The only random thing about it is the ability you get. In conclusion you make some great points, but other points come from just a lack of experience with said topic or something you might have missed out on and at the end of the day... Just block/parry or dodge lmao.
@OGTwist
2 жыл бұрын
its the best one for sure. Most of shadow is ass but all you would need is like two spells from the fucking thing
@lulinhass927
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, the problem with the RNG, is that since this is a perma-death game, RNG should not exist, sure this is a RPG game, but when the game makes you loose something It shouldn't exist.
@kladenstein7849
2 жыл бұрын
@@OGTwist Mind saying what the two spells are? I cant really think of a shadow spell that isnt slow and easy to predict.
@cryo7847
2 жыл бұрын
also you can reroll resonances
@thomasairette1726
2 жыл бұрын
Yea but how will I parry a dagger in 300 ping
@TeeHeeWinning
2 жыл бұрын
One thing I would like for deepwoken is to make quests. There's already fucking bandit beating so just add quests for freshies or some shit. Make it so we craft more shit and add a economy. Northwind has their own economy and there's 0 bandit beating. It is just grinding and farming. One thing I think would be great is if they added a Capture the Flag system. It would be so much fun to have houses go do something instead of fight freshies. Once you reach max what are you going to do? Just fight basically. Instead of fighting add more in-game events idk. Add fucking capture the booty where npc ships are running n shit or add bounty hunting. There needs to be more things added instead of fucking farming.
@hollow8964
2 жыл бұрын
I would also bring up the fact that the grinding system is not rewarding at all. It takes more than 60 hours to get to max level and you can lose literally everything within minutes. Dying in Rogue did not feel as punishing because you could always get your stuff back within 30 minutes to an hour of wiping. Having a 2 lives then depths system only really promotes people to run instead of actually experiencing the game and fighting back because they feel like dying is too punishing compared to the work you have to do to get everything you've earned.
@wruxiz6104
2 жыл бұрын
Uhhhhh what? 1 - You can host your own servers on roblox? I thought the website just has picks that for you when you create a game. 2 - Grand piece online only has 2 different map segments? 1 being the first world, 2 being the 2nd world? :/
@iicloudgod2062
2 жыл бұрын
The issues with ping is because of roblox messing up particle effects and this has been stated multiple times so why u acting like it is the games fault for roblox not knowing what is it doing with their platform
@overlord3083
2 жыл бұрын
dont see other games lagging that much, soo yeah it is also game's fault
@auraemerald8434
2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was around level 15, I was about to escape the depths but right as I made it to the middle of the city, AN ENTIRE GUILD WAS WAITING THERE AND GANKED ME. They ended up wiping me while trying to the get enchanted Ranger’s Brace. And want to know how I got into the depths? Me and a friend were sparring and it bugged. After I was knocked, I almost immediately died even though there was no grip animation and the guy was walking away from me. No NPCs near by, no players, I just died after sitting down. *And this was with no Mantras.*
@cringeworld9762
2 жыл бұрын
Killing players lower than you specifically freshies does not give luck.
@rizer2664
2 жыл бұрын
Tell that to all the people camping lower erisia and the etris village, aswell as the harbour and killing every new player that tries to go there
@cringeworld9762
2 жыл бұрын
@@rizer2664 that’s doesn’t make what he said true. That’s the point. Those people were more than likely given false information like what this guy provided.
@rizer2664
2 жыл бұрын
@@cringeworld9762 yea ik ik although I have to say that most of us probably agree with majority of the things said in this video
@cryo7847
2 жыл бұрын
guilds pull up with their 5 maxed players knock freshies then drop them to their own freshie on the guild, let the freshie guildmate grip for luck and repeat. boosting their own members and abusing game mechanics
@aidenjohnson1241
2 жыл бұрын
@@rizer2664 lol tell that to this video, he is literally telling people killing freshies gives luck like that would solve anything
@gpoenthusiast393real4
2 жыл бұрын
I got the game yesterday and I’m still power 1, my friend made me get to power 2, get my first spell and guess what? A guild killed me, my friend tells me that if I fight with confidence I can win, but now I’m just a felinor with 20 agility that can break people’s ankles because I’m tired of dying, no point in leveling up when you get farmed for luck and they jump you at spawn, there’s only one road for me in deep woken and that’s to make the game fun myself by being a runner.
@quandoez5349
2 жыл бұрын
i mean, cant really judge shit now since the game just released, they're trying their best to fix and balance stuff, and they're actually listening to the community more in suggestions
@kryssix8842
2 жыл бұрын
Bad take
@MakianTheWorld
2 жыл бұрын
They had like a year of testing, what are you talking abouy
@douiieeRAW
2 жыл бұрын
@@MakianTheWorld Roblox has its limits
@PleatGFX
2 жыл бұрын
@@MakianTheWorld fallout 76 had 100 million usd and 3 years of development / testing time, and look at it
@aidenjohnson1241
2 жыл бұрын
@@kryssix8842 they update the game with bug fixes. balance changes, and new content every day?
@mitiosss
2 жыл бұрын
As an avid fan of deep, I wish you went more into depth about the shitty poorly designed god aweful luck mechanic and how parrying M1s inconsistent most of the time (because Ragoozer decided to add it so you cant NORMAL block and everything has to be a parry, and that missing a parry due to either server lag or shaky block forces you into a window where you can get hit before you start actually blocking)
@gunnyisgoodboi4846
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact sometimes the parry system just decides it no longer wants to work, and you will either die depending on the weapon or lose half of your health or more essentially making you lose the fight
@PapaZoro001
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with 90% of the stuff this guy says, but I do think he is quite critical towards deepwoken, whenever most of these problems exist from the player-base, roblox itself, or other tertiary problems.
@ibenoobo
2 жыл бұрын
I definitely do agree with some of these points. The ping, as said, is currently horrible. Highly progressed or maxed players ganking freshies who pull up to Erisia is also a giant problem, but I can't really see a fix unless they big brain it or make the game way less immersive because of a PVP cap or something like that. The devs have already stated that you won't gain luck from significantly less leveled players than you, but they continue to ruin progression. I do pay no mind however to players actually killing other players if they do have a clear chance to get luck. What I don't agree on: I am a somewhat skilled player, and I've never had a problem with shadow, really anything unbalanced, and getting good talents; In fact, I'm doing well with only a miniscule amount of luck that I got from killing people that tried to kill me. I don't have the best talents that I could've gotten by getting luck at an early stage but I still commonly clear out 1v2s, 1v3s, and 1v4s of a variety of different people including full gank squads of hero sword users. Blessings, curses, and enchants should stay the same. When you do get the chance to use one or get one, it's very rewarding. They may need to scale down a FEW of them that are game breaking but most of them are fairly balanced to me. Ex. Gluttony, Adhesive/Bungee Gum are a few balanced enchants. But, from clips we've seen, blessings like the hero's blessing with 3x dmg at max hp are definitely overpowered.
@zewdrel8458
2 жыл бұрын
Getting gank by high level and ur ded body would be given to their freshie noob friends and ur hours of starting progress looks like a joke
@Retr0_ADHD
2 жыл бұрын
The sad part is, if any of this is said within the Deepwoken discord, you'll get a bunch of angry and toxic replies excusing everything and calling YOU the problem You wanna bring up the issue with half of the playerbase not letting you progress because they're relying way too much on gripping you for luck even though you're most likely not even at the required level to give them the luck they so THINK they need from a power 1-10 despite being a power 30+? Apparently, you get a ton of "Skill issue" "Get good" "Dying is part of the game lo plus you NEED luck for a good build lol" replies. I mean the last one might be true but the rest is still stupid lol. Wanna talk about the horrible optimization and how it's nearly unplayable if you're past 100 ping because you can't parry in a PARRY BASED PVP/PVE game? "It's only Roblox's fault" "Stop blaming the game" "Get a better pc/wifi lol". And this applies with any genuine criticism or complaints with the game, it just feels like they can find an excuse to anything by using some toxic unreasonable bs to make their arguments look stronger and a bunch of equally toxic morons side with them because they can't simply just, y'know, not make the game more toxic than it probably should be??? Talk about the bugs? Don't even try it, it'll end up the same way as it usually does because the game is unique therefore it's near-flawless to some of these people. If not, it sure does feel like it.
@harpypon
2 жыл бұрын
Hell, you can see plenty of these guys in the comments. Most of their arguments can be summed up by "get good and play longer".
@Retr0_ADHD
2 жыл бұрын
@@harpypon Funny thing is, most of these "counter-arguments" come from a bunch of people that for sure use the most braindead and unbalanced builds in the game to carry them in the game, as seen in the first clip Of course, when kids get a bunch of OP gear they're going to have their egos boosted and they'll think they're good lmfao
@korst265
2 жыл бұрын
So bells also have corrupted effects. Which is really stupid IMO. Like take dmg to get s for 20 seconds. Sometimes cursed bells are bad, but other time they make you want to kill yourself from how busted it is. Sometimes resonances are insanely stupid too.
@HoboWombo
2 жыл бұрын
At 8:55, you have to grip players high level then you to get luck
@cryo7847
2 жыл бұрын
thats the funny part, guilds pull up with their 5 maxed players knock freshies then drop them to their own freshie on the guild, let the freshie guildmate grip for luck and repeat. boosting their own members and abusing game mechanics
@innerapathy
2 жыл бұрын
@@cryo7847 you steal luck btw you cant kill another freshie to get it cause they dont have luck
@mastertrey4683
2 жыл бұрын
@@cryo7847 thats not how it works, you need to do the damage to get luck
@apex5826
2 жыл бұрын
something that i hate about the game is that if you cant do that good on pvp you will never get rare talents. which are the stuff you NEED. or you will be 5v1 with 2 people that have heroism , elemental sword and shadow
@trippyexp530
2 жыл бұрын
You dont get luck from fresh spawns only people that are near to you
@noobynoobyesucks4935
2 жыл бұрын
ok but nobody is gonna find the fucking one piece to find a guy whos a similiar lvl to you.
@RedditTextt
2 жыл бұрын
@@noobynoobyesucks4935 uh whatre u on abt hes just shutting down his point of him claiming u can kill freshspawns for luck which isnt true lol
@junipurr17
2 жыл бұрын
@@RedditTextt Nooby's point was that some guilds (namely the one in the video) aren't going to look around for high level players to grip to increase their luck, some of them are going to camp somewhere that they know gets high traffic and just kill everyone on sight. And even if these guilds do decide to search for high level people, they're going to roll out in a group of 5 or more to increase their odds of winning. In the end it doesn't matter that you don't get luck from killing freshspawns, the combination of people rolling out with their entire discord server and all of them with shadow magic and hero swords lead to an unenjoyable experience for anyone trying to play the game because of the incentive to increase your luck stat.
@H0wlerz
2 жыл бұрын
@@junipurr17 how are they gonna increase their luck if its not the same level and its just "flooding experience" its normal on a rogue like game if ppl cant handle it idk what to tell you and shadow magic isnt busted you can block EVERY move while the "busted" moves that you should complain about should be instead fire which does retarded amounts of damage so yeah idk why yall saying shadow busted while it aint really
@perperperper7554
2 жыл бұрын
Shadow also deals shit damage on most moves and take a fuck ton of ether to use Smh (nerf azure flame)
@XyDm.
2 жыл бұрын
Based on when this video was made I feel the Deepwoken team did somethings to fix what you mentioned 1. I feel that there is more servers now then there was at release with me personally seeing Oregon, California, Texas, Illinois, Virginia, New Jersey and Hong Kong(according to Infernasu Hong Kong is just west coast based) 2. They've been working on lowering lag which I feel was a little successful as I can play in servers with max 150 ping now instead of 800 ping 3. Killing freshspawns when you are over lvl 10 now doesn't give you any luck, which I feel really helped freshie farming 4. PVP is still not that great but they did nerf most enchantments and I believe they nerfed the hero's sword 5. They've made it easier now to lvl up at higher lvls
@rr3d942
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like if this wouldn't be a Roblox game, it would be a masterpiece.
@czwhynot250
2 жыл бұрын
as one of the people who plays on laptop I can say that this game is next to unplayable from a performance standpoint. Granted I run the game on a sub-par device. The fact that I get better ping from servers halfway across the world instead of my closest server (singapore) baffles me, and even then the best i can run on is around 300. My neurons have to fire so fast when I fight sharko I generate static as I genuinely have to predict when it's going to attack.
@wammss4851
2 жыл бұрын
Part of alot of the "pvp balancing " is the fact that not alot of people know how to make a good build and thats why i see alot of people not liking the game because their build is atrocious trying to be balanced and in doing that theyre getting shit on constantly
@sowazidattilo6632
2 жыл бұрын
It’s actually been my tenth rerun I’ve spent about 3k robux on the game I can’t even get to grind a little without being killed by someone who two shots and I don’t wanna sound like I’m ranting but my highest level is two. I can’t seem to ever hold combat because the ping is so horrible. When I do try and fight back I can’t block and I can’t parry the only thing I’m able to do is run. I can’t even fight the NPCS. Rouge and deep IMO aren’t that far apart. I understand they are both hardcore games but there almost impossible to play SOLO. Especially when everyone is bloodthirsty. I actually played with a guy for about 30 mins to an hour and we were healing at a campfire after a while he was way higher level than me but just to be an asshole he got up and killed me when I was only level 2. And when i asked why I have nothing he says “game” and comes ALL the way back to erasian city just to kill me again. Such a shitty system where it forces you to fight back against impossible foes.
@jorhns
2 жыл бұрын
Mainly a ping issue but tbh these other problems are just small things that are fixable
@Iccecrm-c9k
Жыл бұрын
I know people might not agree with me. But just because a game is a rouge-like doesn’t mean it’s going to be a good. Yea deepwoken has good stuff I like. But your doing the same thing and it’s barley different. Yea you can get new builds and maybe level up differently but your essentially grinding the same way doing the same thing. The reason rogue likes like tboi or cotl, or even ror are so fun is because each run feels personalized. It doesn’t feel like a same run over and over because how it’s gameplay is. With deepwoken dying becomes more or less an annoying roadblock. Even if your good at the game, no one wants to grind another 7+ hours just to do the same stuff just for some build. That you might not even get perfectly. Just give us the choice to delete a set or he’ll if they really wanna go the rougelike road just add some more damn variety, and make it have more options other then picking an origin and starting weapon, make me feel like each run I do is different not in just the way I choose it. I know I put too much effort into this and people might just say I have a skill issue. But you have to agree I’m right on SOME level.
@kamilion1
2 жыл бұрын
Deepwoken got boring just too much grinding Deepwoken is a PvE game, but you only fight like 4 different monsters and a healthpack and thats about it. Honestly, rogue was much more fun. the game was in a lot of ways worse than deepwoken, with insane power gaps, shinobi's and more. but it was way more stupid and because of that, more fun. i think it's because deepwoken has a lot less stupid stuff to do. rogue had shriekers, and you could lure those shriekers to sentinel and have a great time with your gank squad of 4 shriekers, you and your friends 1-comboing an ultra. i played with friends in deepwoken but all we did was beat some bandits and occasionally some players, it was more serious and less laid back than rogue, and i didn't like it as much. deepwoken should in theory have a lot more stupid stuff to do, but because of a thing called rng you don't. If there was a skill tree there would have been way more player expression, but now everyone just has normal and pretty boring talents that do almost no more than increase a stat or two, every single build becomes very generic. here's an example of a stupid build, a build with Wyvern's claw, Aerogliding, an air attack for the weapon you're going and that one legion double jump move, effectively making a build that will stay in the air all the time. this (imo at least) sounds pretty fun right? and it does, but because of rng you can't get this build unless you spend hours and multiple tries trying to get these talents, because Wyvern's claw and Aerogliding are "rare talents" the thing that ruins deepwoken for me is the rng, that's basically the only thing. the core combat is pretty good, sometimes mantra's and builds can be stupidly op but i don't get bothered by it much, and i can grind a bunch when i'm in a certain kind of mood too, but the rng completely ruins the game. because of the rng, i can't get a fun stupid ass build. That's about it.
@kole8586
2 жыл бұрын
Fixing the ping issue would resolve so many issues and improve the quality of the game extremely
@matthewj8782
2 жыл бұрын
True the ping issue is the problem
@mysterious5224
2 жыл бұрын
8:30 actually,there is a level requirement for luck to not promote freshie killing and I've never even seen anyone farm freshies
@cryo7847
2 жыл бұрын
guilds pull up with their 5 maxed players knock freshies then drop them to their own freshie on the guild, let the freshie guildmate grip for luck and repeat. boosting their own members and abusing game mechanics
@innerapathy
2 жыл бұрын
@@cryo7847 that doesnt work either, you STEAL luck
@RommekePommeke
2 жыл бұрын
I have had several attempts of people trying to kill me for luck despite me clearly being a freshie due to not having a mantra, equipment or anything.
@premchanumalla7851
2 жыл бұрын
just one comment about the "glorified bandit beaters" section; i remember watching a video where a guy does only a PVP run, so that is a possibility, and the mobs are a lot better than most bandit beater games, such as any one piece game
@nopleasefrick2025
2 жыл бұрын
I live in Texas in a Texas server getting 300 ping spikes. 😓 (That's my only problem tbh)
@justtex_9141
2 жыл бұрын
If only rag made that guards protect you right when a player hits you
@dylanminorhero
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never been above level 20 because I take every fight I can. I think for me that’s how I’m gonna improve, by not getting carried by my level. Either way, I think at my lower level, this game has been really fun, I agree with your points, but they just don’t make the game unfun to me. It might just be that I’m easy to entertain, but either way. Good video and solid points.
@swordwielder2854
2 жыл бұрын
Your probably one of those freshies who attack people outta nowhere lol. And once you get knocked you will say "Ah well i did good for a freshie"
@swordwielder2854
2 жыл бұрын
@Big Boy Jonathan's garden After leaving this comment i just got attacked by another freshie and when i knocked him he said "Game is so bad" and I was like "sure bud"
@dylanminorhero
2 жыл бұрын
@@swordwielder2854 I hit em with the gg. Either way lol, facts.
@aidenjohnson1241
2 жыл бұрын
@@swordwielder2854 its how you get better, your probably one of those lvl 60's that die to freshies
@swordwielder2854
2 жыл бұрын
@@aidenjohnson1241 Dumbass your tryna prove something here? go touch some grass mate. ik your a random freshie attacker but jesus christ you cant prove anything here.
@eyeless2124
2 жыл бұрын
Deepwoken was fun after release, people were really nice to me and then the ytbers hit, saying killing people gives luck and now people are wiping you all the time just cause they think they get luck,even if ur lvl 2
@Reliicss
2 жыл бұрын
Solid video overall, agree with most of the points minus some stuff. I'm not sure who you've experienced use Shadow Magic but it's easily the worst in the game. It's only got the ether drain going for it, which if anything is mid as fuck anyways. It works on literal infants who spam Mantras and the hitbox doesn't matter because you can make certain moves in other elements way better with few mods if any at all. Thunder has a super quick borderline teleport mobility skill (also Spark Switch), ice has Ice Skate which is insane, and in general the other elements have overall better skills. I mean you even showed a clip of that dude using Ice which is infinitely more insane that Shadow can or will be. The elemental swords are nutty, I agree they need a nerf but easy to get? Huh? I wouldn't call Valley of Heroes an easy place lmao. If you could waltz in and get it then ok but.. Also you don't get luck from simply killing freshies.. idk what brainlet started that but it isn't true. Luck is probably one of the worst things to happen to DW because all it means is people pvping anyone who even remotely looks like they have luck, which just ends up being a level 50+ rolling an early level 20 or lower. On top of making the Depths an unbearable hell hole where it's incredibly hard to learn it because of people who want luck and gear. Really thought the game has plenty of unbalanced shit.. I think it's fun and enjoy playing but seriously needs tweaks. Also super funny and ironic that Nano or maybe even before release Rag said that if anything was unbalanced and would one shot they'd nerf it out. Obviously not..
@meme_stealer8421
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: if you get shadow gun put blast spark and 2 lens (i forgor their name) you get duelist Dash with the range also put wayward gem on that to rub the salt to the wound :)
@imbaduknow
2 жыл бұрын
well this aged well, now theres a valley of heroes farm that a power 1 could do T_T
@dealwiththat4060
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah ragoozer was thinking the elemental swords would be somewhat difficult to get but he forgot about the fact that huge ass guilds will just clear the white golems with ease then give their Very hardworking friends a completely deserved popsicle stick that one combos anyone if you get hit a few times.
@babaloons4887
2 жыл бұрын
I remember they also said something about limited amount of people on the same guild in one server and if they reach the limit they will be kicked of the server if more people joined.
@ANTOperator
2 жыл бұрын
"I would put up with all these issues" if the optimization wasn't bad. Yup. Yup 100x yup. It further exacerbates the stat gap issue, I can play better and parry 100x but during a lag spike a magic move hits me and since I'm 10 levels lower I die instantly.
@Aleph-Ayin
2 жыл бұрын
Shadow does very little damage, but steals ether, and blinds. I don’t agree with the huge hit boxes but shadow is pretty good. For heros sword/elemental sword, you can still parry/block it like any other weapon. There will always be some weapons better than others, but you will still be able to fight back. Also you can’t get luck from freshspawns as a higher than level 10, you’d have to fight people who are level 10+. Curses have huge upsides but also have huge downsides which u could abuse, enchants dont cause a huge difference to combat like curses and blessings. For blessings i dunno what to say other than they are really rare and op. Resonances also give u an extra flaw without a boon
@startlingnoob6160
2 жыл бұрын
On god if they made their own game and advertise it in discord, I’d cop
@meraldwaves
Жыл бұрын
9 months later game is still shit
@MingChilling-
2 жыл бұрын
rng is one of those things were it feels realistic but then you realize you dont wanna sit on the game for 3 weeks not seeing your family or the sun
@severusreee9234
2 жыл бұрын
If you have played loomian legacy before I already know how that is
@goodbye9809
2 жыл бұрын
I love deepwoken i have no lifed this game since its release it can be very fun but i agree so fucking much the game is god damn terrible i wipe when im bored and then remember that i gotta sit there and kill some fucking bandits all over again atleast in rogue the progression was always fighting some one different who maybe played different and did different things i really enjoy the pvp of deepwoken and the fact that people call the game balanced is bull shit i udnerstand you aren't gonna have a completely perfect pvp balancing system always but my god there is always one meta that people will use in every single element there is nothing new either i think they shouldve kept the making or editing your own mantra into something way different you can edit them but you wont change what they are or what they do and you cant play late game if you got 4 people no you need a whole max server of players since the depths is literally needed to get any amount of exp past level 54 the game was told to be so much more and so great of a game which is a damn lie its better than a lot of games for sure more unique and cool but it feels repetitive already i thought i would atleast get 6 months out of it and they may release a lot of content in the future but its core will always be the same its so fucking boring already and i hate the people who really meat ride this game its a better gpo that has no hit stun and way better combat and leveling system with a lot more features but lets all be real here this game is not a masterpiece no where near and im slightly disappointed it may have been my own expectations that are disappointing me maybe i thought it was something different that it was but my expectations of the game are far different from what it really is and im very sad about it very very sad i wish i could say a lot of good things about it and maybe it really just isnt for me but i really enjoy this type of combat system yet deepwoken is kinda well really is mid man i hate to be the people that spam midwoken but god it really is i never thought id have so much shit to talk about the game im devastated man
@justincaldwell8954
2 жыл бұрын
I think deepwoken just isn’t for you then mate. The things you mentioned will always be a part of deepwoken. I never played rouge lineage or even saw the content but it’s hard to believe any roblox game can be anything but a bandit beater. It’s either that or full pvp.
@Velyx_
2 жыл бұрын
bro, z scrooms for exp and shriekers it's literally mostly boring to progress
@Vortex-qb2se
2 жыл бұрын
The computer you have doesn't affect ping by any means. Ping is network latency.
@TheBusGuide
2 жыл бұрын
I love Deepwoken, and it is also personally my favorite game as of now but I totally do agree with your points and I really do hope that the problems gets fixed soon so that me and other players can have more fun in the game. Also I really hope that they add more variety of NPCs, more cool quests like the Karliah or the Librarian quest and maybe a couple more islands.
@daivioi
2 жыл бұрын
While I know most people are like "WAA WAA NO THAT'S A STUPID IDEA", but they should honestly make it like vetex did with arcane adventures (he divided the full map into like: first sea, second sea, third sea etc.). While I'm not saying the game should be fully divided into seas, they should at least divide some parts so we don't just have to goddamn render the whole entire map, every mob etc.
@batchw4827
2 жыл бұрын
Pvp is not unbalanced. GEMS AND UPGRADING is unbalanced. You literally can make your spell do 70% if someone’s health bar if u upgrade it enough
@bandittaquito9055
2 жыл бұрын
just parry lol
@batchw4827
2 жыл бұрын
BanditTaquito 🤓
@medmahieddine
2 жыл бұрын
So pvp is unbalanced then, dumbass. Thats like saying coca cola isn’t unhealthy, the sugar is.🤡
@batchw4827
2 жыл бұрын
Ilyes Mahieddine yeah the sugar remove it
@RommekePommeke
2 жыл бұрын
@@batchw4827 I have never seen someone be this good at contradicting their own statements.
@eyeless2124
2 жыл бұрын
I agree,for a few days,3 days my whole game was so laggy I couldn't progress without training at isle of vigils,and I had to wait to get my lag fixed
@FalconsWRLD
2 жыл бұрын
The points you made were all basically true, but honestly this game has no competition, so it doesn’t really matter how many problems the game has, people are gonna play it nonetheless. The only other game on roblox that I can confidently say I enjoy playing is ABA, and that is completely different from deepwoken anyway so people will still play both.
@HeruWilliams
2 жыл бұрын
These problems can be easily fixed tho for example shadow magic just nerf it
@akl844
2 жыл бұрын
@@HeruWilliams the 4 base magic we are given are better and as good as shadow magic
@prograxm4417
2 жыл бұрын
@@HeruWilliams shadow is for the most part dookie as a MAGIC but everythings pretty balanced, nothing in shadow you cant easily block except for blast spark sahdow gun
@macintoshcomputingdevice8016
2 жыл бұрын
@@HeruWilliams shadow isnt even good bro it does peashooter damage and the moves are easy parryable
@HeruWilliams
2 жыл бұрын
@@macintoshcomputingdevice8016 okay step one your outdated af because I made that comment before shadow was nerfed and step two good luck fighting with no bar buddie
@Egoist_Enz
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that ppl telling me I’m garbage while im getting chased by 3 shadow users while im lvl 3 (this happened to me, but now im like 40)
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