Ok, the answers for the blind test at the end: Spoiler space for those who don’t want the ending spoiled. Amp A was the ‘66 Amp B was the 68 Custom Amp C was the ‘65 To a large extent the differences in sound were differences in pot tapers. Watch the full playing video of the 68 Custom to hear that “thin bright” amp with the knobs set just so. The clips in this first video had the knobs set the same - which is not the same thing as the *pots* set the same.
@scottwilcox6313
11 ай бұрын
To me, the 68 seemed brighter and glassy. The 65 and 66 are very close, very smooth, and softer to the ears. Great video, great playing as well.
@passionplayer7
11 ай бұрын
Totally agree on that one!
@matthewf1979
11 ай бұрын
The 65 and 68 reissue are super close. The 66 is just a touch softer on the treble. That could be down to speaker age or treble pot tolerance, it’s so, so small of a difference. Either way, great job in showing how great a reissue/clone can be!
@anotheryoutubed
11 ай бұрын
Same listening experience I had.
@shckltnebay
11 ай бұрын
The '66 sounds amazing given the replaced transformer, its all about the mid range frequency, havent heard a reissue that gets it right!!
@coryman4245
11 ай бұрын
I thought the 66 sounded the best also. Figured it may be because of the speaker thought
@sgt.grinch3299
11 ай бұрын
I’m nearly deaf so I cannot discern between the three but I enjoyed all of them. Thanks for sharing.
@travismccartney
11 ай бұрын
3 spectacular sounding amps. I notice very subtle differences but I wouldn't be able pick out the reissue from the vintage examples without getting lucky in my guess. The largest difference was the reverb on amp C was brighter and amp A overall sounded a bit darker.
@davidtreaster4397
11 ай бұрын
I like A the best and C the least. I'm thinking maybe 65, 66, 68? I think I could pick them out in the room but at a disadvantage with Macbook speakers… Great player!
@blairmichaelhogan4502
11 ай бұрын
This dude is an exceptional player!
@DrRussPhd
11 ай бұрын
In a mix it wouldn't really matter which amp was playing as all sound very good.
@anotheryoutubed
11 ай бұрын
And that's what most people don't understand about chasing tone, they're always chasing it alone, and then they play in a mix and go, wait why doesn't that work the way I thought it would????
@realadamnixon
11 ай бұрын
My best guess as to which is which is A. 66, B. 65, C. 68 modded reissue
@Bluesky5553
11 ай бұрын
Oh wow. I love the fuller, richer sounds of the '65 and '66. The '68 has a brighter sound I'm not a fan of when compared to the other two. Great work, sir!
@PsionicAudio
11 ай бұрын
I set the knobs the same but that doesn’t mean the pot values are the same - they have different tapers. The brightness could be adjusted. Just as the ‘66 sounds a hair darker than the ‘65 - a treble pot tweak would change that (though their speakers are quite different). Same for the reverb level differences - I set the knobs the same but that’s not the same thing as setting the pots the same. I didn’t have time to tweak each one - these videos take a while - and I thought this would be a realistic comparison someone might do in a shop. Each amp will get its own playing video where the knobs will be moved around a bit.
@recklesstoboggan
11 ай бұрын
My guess: A 68 B 66 C 65 The 66 is my fav of these three specific amps in the open/known comparison. I like the additional bass and punchiness. Although, i think you could get the 65 to match this by tweaking the eq, vol, etc. I keep my Deluxe 65, and all my fender amps really, with a little extra bass to give that beautiful (pick sensitive and controled) punch that goes so well with the nice fender top end sparkle. Getting that additional bass amount right is key to creating the dynamic spank and twang that fenders are so good at.
@user-ok2ju4lw4u
11 ай бұрын
Mine is third…pretty sure I’m right…more sparkle! And my fav of the three.
@MartinPorto
11 ай бұрын
The 66 is like a good friend that invites you some beers and listen to you
@bambule5268
11 ай бұрын
Such beautiful and impressive work! Great playing as well!
@JzuHax
11 ай бұрын
Ok let's dive. '66, '65 & '68. That '68 is brighter, and the reverb sure sounds different as well. It seems to me the '65 sounds a tad more muffled than the '65. However, since the parts were different for these two amps (chords for A, mostly individual notes for B), that didn't facilitate the identification. Yes, that's my excuse.
@lucistired
11 ай бұрын
I think it goes from a to c 66 65 68
@trigliderider
11 ай бұрын
Agreed 👍
@joemeyer6876
11 ай бұрын
66 is my favorite, but hey, I liked Jaclyn Smith over Farrah.
@jaronensley
11 ай бұрын
Me too!
@goodun2974
11 ай бұрын
@@jaronensley, me three ! Blondes are overrated. Give me a brunette or give me death!
@defh2o
11 ай бұрын
We could be friends. JS rocks and so does the 66 😊
@jazzFABRYk
11 ай бұрын
my suggestion is: A = 66, B = 65, C = 68 custom
@nebojsatomic1210
11 ай бұрын
'65 for me :) , A is '66, B is '65 and C is '68
@thebenthermit4067
11 ай бұрын
None of the examples before the blind test sounded like Amp C-nothing sounded that brash. Here's what I know, if I bought a blackface and it sounded like Amp C I'd be pissed. On the other hand, if A or B was the 68' then I congratulate you for doing a fantastic job with your mods.
@MichaelSmith-rn1qw
11 ай бұрын
The slight tear in the grill cloth of the '66 "opens up the sound" a bit. 😂 Honestly, they all sound about the same to my ears thru some JBL Pro desktop speakers.
@Walks-With-Pride
11 ай бұрын
I don't think you can go wrong with any one of theses bad boys. They all sound great to my ears. If I had to choose just one, based on this sound test, I would probably pick the '65. But, the '66 is just as sweet in its own way. I would leap with joy to own any of these amps. Gratitude for the treat!!!
@Steve-H
11 ай бұрын
A)66, B)65, C)68
@charlieplate9687
11 ай бұрын
A)66 B)65 C)68
@Fugettaboutit
11 ай бұрын
I'd like to hear them compared with volume past 5. That's where I've noticed the differences the most with DR's that I've owned and built from kits.
@MartinPorto
11 ай бұрын
+1
@Billywagner22
11 ай бұрын
A 66 B 65 C 68
@joemeyer6876
11 ай бұрын
I’d go with that.
@phishphan5732
11 ай бұрын
66 sounds the best ‘68 sounded thin and bright,now hit them with some humbuckers
@TastyTone
11 ай бұрын
To my ears: Amp A is the modified '68 Custom Amp B is the '65 Amp C is the '66 The '66 has a noticeably deeper, richer, rounder overall tone but I suspect that may likely be due to the Mojotone speaker. The '65's highs seem focused on a narrower but slightly higher band of frequencies. The modified '68's highs seem focused on a slightly lower but slightly wider range of frequencies. That being said, I believe I would ONLY detect these differences within the scientific comparison settings such as provided here. In the "wild" (i.e. -- a live performance environment -- with all the sonic "accoutrements" provided in such venues), I don't think I could tell the difference. 👍
@robotsongs
11 ай бұрын
I feel like C was the reissue, but cant tell A and B apart. Might just be the added high end on C, but it seems more fragile, less distinguished.
@GregoryHillSr
11 ай бұрын
The third clip sample to my ears separated each amp where the '66 just a little dark, '68 was hinting glassy but the '65 was almost piercing in glassiness and I'm loving this comparison of the three wishing I had the '66
@Strumbum01
11 ай бұрын
I like the 66!
@Bret_Sanor
11 ай бұрын
'66 was the only one I could stand. The others were thin and brittle with very harsh highs especially the '65. But I understand how some people could like it. Just depends on what you like, want and need from your tone.
@joeappel1
11 ай бұрын
Thinking that A is the 66, B is the 68, and C is the 65. They all sound lovely.
@kmichaelp4508
11 ай бұрын
I personally like the Deluxe
@MrStevehunter33
11 ай бұрын
68 would get my vote followed by 65 but all three so close and they all sound great
@gvbjr.6693
11 ай бұрын
Amp a is the 66, B is the 65 , and C is the 68
@tadmorrison
11 ай бұрын
There seems bit more 'space' between the midrange notes on the '65. Perhaps, it's due to faster initial response? Blind listening, I like all three
@MrSmiley1964
11 ай бұрын
I turned it to 80% on the Crap-tastic speaker/soundcard combo on my laptop and still couldn't tell much difference between the three. Certainly nothing that couldn't be changed with a twist of the knob or a speaker swap. As it stands, with my eyes open, I think the '66 had an ever so slight advantage. I listed a third time for the outstanding playing.
@stephenheidelberger616
11 ай бұрын
Amp C was the 65 it had the best reverb the other two where close but I say A was the 66 and B is the moded 68 custom .
@J.C...
11 ай бұрын
That's what Im thinking.
@SuperShaunM
11 ай бұрын
A-'66 B-'65 C-"68"
@kunkmiceter
11 ай бұрын
The two blackfaces sounded the same to me and the modded silverface was brighter.
@kerbyfab
11 ай бұрын
That ‘66 was smooovve!!!
@barthrvatin8297
11 ай бұрын
Great work Lyle and props to Joe for his excellent performance in the video! My opinion is that this is mostly a comparison of two speakers, slightly complicated by differences between the vintage and modern reverb tanks. I would enjoy hearing this exact demonstration again with the reverb switched off. Lyle - would you say that in-room there are more discernible differences between the three? Close mic-ing the speaker is limiting both the baffle and enclosure's contributions to the sound. (Also - I don't see it mentioned but I assume that all three still have their bright cap unclipped, and is very much in the signal path with channel volume set between 4 and 5.) Thanks for making this Lyle. Long live the mighty AB763! ✌👍
@barthrvatin8297
11 ай бұрын
Amp A I believe to be the 1966(Mojotone Brit), Amp B is the modified '68 reissue, and Amp C is the 1965.
@PsionicAudio
11 ай бұрын
None of them have the bright cap.
@harleyhexxe9806
11 ай бұрын
I believe Amp A was the '66. It has more low end than the other two. It's difficult to tell between the '65 and the '68 custom because they both have a snappy treble response. I'm going to guess Amp is the '68 custom and Amp c is the '65, based on what I hear with the reverb.
@MartinPorto
11 ай бұрын
+1
@Bimmer2047
11 ай бұрын
I think A is the 66 B is the 65 and C is the 68
@semajdis
11 ай бұрын
That '65 was smoking. *Chuckle*
@JoshRoberts-fo5gq
11 ай бұрын
Best sound for me is the 65...66 is a lil dull compared to 65 and the 68 is crispy bright but nice
@kevinfarrellUK
11 ай бұрын
I’ll take a punt that amp C is the modded custom, A is the ‘66 and B is the ‘65. Then again…. Lol ;))
@philandcatherinemuzio9476
11 ай бұрын
A=‘66, B=‘65, C=‘68
@shredgd5
11 ай бұрын
I would say A 65, B 66, C 68
@Satchmoeddie
11 ай бұрын
Given the wide tolerances of the components used in these old Fender amps from the 1960s, being +/-10% to +/- 20% for most all of the resistors* and +20 to +100% for the electrolytic caps (+20% for cathode shunt caps, +/-20% for all the other caps, and up to +100%/-20% for the filter caps) to -20% for all of the tubes, and two new amps that came just off the assembly line consecutively will each have it's own character. *The pots were also not very consistent either +/-20% , and the taper also not consistent. The screen grid resistors might have been 5% in some amps. Only super expensive test equipment used the crazy expensive +/-2% caps and +/-1/2% resistors, and +/- 2% pots, and you still had to constantly recalibrate that stuff.
@Satchmoeddie
11 ай бұрын
I have no idea why part of that text has a strike line through it. Just read around it.
@noussommesla6591
11 ай бұрын
A 66, B 68, C 65
@sixpicker82
7 ай бұрын
Amp A. 68 Amp B. 65 Amp C. 66 The ‘66 sounded the best to my ear. The 65 was good but the 68 notes had soggy fizzle and no sustain.
@Jake-fo3rg
11 ай бұрын
Component tolerances, differences between reverb tanks, potentiometer differences based on manufacturing variations, tube mileage etc. could account for the subtle differences noted here even if the amps were of identical design, age and manufacturing process.
@joek81981
11 ай бұрын
I think C was the '68. Too little in it for me to tell the black ones apart, blindly. And I guess I prefer the '65. As long as I can see it, apparently.
@Morrison9155
11 ай бұрын
I bet they feel more different than they sound
@unkolawdio
11 ай бұрын
That is delicious
@alfonsodelafreg259
11 ай бұрын
My guess, in order, 68, 66, 65. 65 being best.
@pepekinnunen1260
11 ай бұрын
Hi there, thank’s for your exellent channel! Is it possible to hear your opinion about hand made it Fender custom deluxe reverb 64’. How it’s done and sounds? What’s the difference between original blackface’s? Is it good for the money?
The silver face sounds maybe a little thicker in the mids to me but the blind test is hard. Will hazard a guess at A: '65 B: '68 & C '66
@unclemeat8422
11 ай бұрын
I can’t tell. Maybe Amp C is the ‘68 modded on blind test? The ‘68 sounds slightly scooped more? They all sound great. Car Bose system.
@David888B
11 ай бұрын
I think Amp A is the 68, based on the way the reverb reacted...I'm probably wrong.
@jeffmariajenson9751
11 ай бұрын
Amp C seemed slightly brighter. I don't have a preference.
@thesurfjunkies
11 ай бұрын
We think A is the 66, B the modded 68 and the C is a dead giveaway a 65 it’s so bright. Did we get it right?
@PaulReno
11 ай бұрын
My guess is A is the 66, B is the 68 and C the 65.
@Billywagner22
11 ай бұрын
Spill the beans on which amp was A, B, and C Lyle.
@PsionicAudio
11 ай бұрын
In due time.
@jimbeaux4988
11 ай бұрын
I'm guessing C was the 68. It's also the one I would prefer for recording. Better to have that top end and not need it....
@ebudae26
11 ай бұрын
I can't tell the difference between the three. I would be happy to own any one of them.
@lifeafterlifeparanormaland9991
11 ай бұрын
65, 66, 68
@BCEpedals
11 ай бұрын
I suspect C is the 68 custom, it’s a toss up to me about A or B, I think I notice slight differences but really not much for my ear.
@BCEpedals
11 ай бұрын
I will guess A is 66’ B is 65’ and C is 68. 🤞🏻
@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG
11 ай бұрын
That a B-bender or just seriously strong fingers...?
@fredfrederici7562
11 ай бұрын
they all sound good but the modded 68 has a bit more thick bottom
@Fr0stbyte89
11 ай бұрын
I think A is th 66, B is the 68, and C is the 65.
@spasticjackson9578
11 ай бұрын
C is the 65 ? I hope.
@anotheryoutubed
11 ай бұрын
Hi there, how much does a 68 Custom mod like you did in this video run and where can I contact you about getting that done?
@JAugust
11 ай бұрын
A. 66 B. 65 C. 68 reissue?? 68 reissue seemed brighter and thinner, 66 sounded darkest and full/round, 65 somewhere in between, brighter than the 66 but not as brittle as the 68 reissue.
@mtorrence27
11 ай бұрын
Would you prefer a ‘65 RI deluxe or the ‘68 RI to mod to make it sound like the vintage originals?
@PsionicAudio
11 ай бұрын
‘65 needs much less changed to sound right.
@J.C...
11 ай бұрын
A is the 66. That's about all I could tell. 🤷
@oldguy5381
11 ай бұрын
If there is any audio difference between the amps it’s not noticeable. And if you add that into a mix it would be impossible to notice any difference. Happy Labor Day.
@houndjr40
11 ай бұрын
A-'66 B-'68 C-'65
@anotheryoutubed
11 ай бұрын
66 definitely sounded a lot more mellow and not as bright to me.
@TheMuudcat
11 ай бұрын
65 has slightly more mids, amp C is the 65
@tjerger
7 ай бұрын
What do you think is the best option right now? Buy a new RI 65 or 68?
@PsionicAudio
7 ай бұрын
65
@tjerger
7 ай бұрын
@@PsionicAudio no matter that it is more expensive, around 400 dollars more here in Europe…
@PsionicAudio
7 ай бұрын
Yeah. It sounds better and has much less noise.
@LuisHernandez-dy1rq
7 ай бұрын
In your opinion, if I had $1000 what would you recommend between a Vox AC15 or a Fender Deluxe Reverb . I play rock n roll and some pop I use pedals . Thanks
@PsionicAudio
7 ай бұрын
Play both, see what you prefer. Very different sounding amps, both fantastic. Stock DR RI needs some reliability tweaks and the stock C12K or generic “Fender” speakers aren’t usually the best choice for the DR. The AC15C series (Custom not Custom Classic) doesn’t need work or a better speaker, but it usually ships with cheap tubes.
@LuisHernandez-dy1rq
7 ай бұрын
@@PsionicAudiothank you ! I appreciate your feedback and keep up the great videos
@LuisHernandez-dy1rq
7 ай бұрын
@@PsionicAudio also if I wanted to get your mods for the AC15c1x , how much $?
@LuisHernandez-dy1rq
7 ай бұрын
@@PsionicAudio I can also add a Alnico Gold or Cream
@LuisHernandez-dy1rq
7 ай бұрын
@@PsionicAudio what tubes do you recommend I upgrade the AC15C1X with ?
@gringopig
11 ай бұрын
A: 68 B:66 C:65
@SirLoinMagroin
11 ай бұрын
The 65 and 66 were too close to call. The 68 had more top and presence but sounded a bit more thin although that could just be a psychoacoustic thing to my ears due to comparing them together.
@PsionicAudio
11 ай бұрын
Without spoiling the reveal, I’ve seen a lot of comments describing X as “better” and Z as “less” then preferring Z in the blind test… Some comments have A B C correct but I don’t know if that’s random luck or what. I’d have to do at least 19 more blind tests to see if people could consistently tell the differences in statistically meaningful ways. The owner of the 68 will be here in a little bit and in that video we’ll move the knobs around a bit more. For those who describe it as thin/bright, that’s mostly knob adjustments. Beyond that, I do have a consistent preference that I’ll reveal in a later video.
@jeffmaloney8701
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, they all sound great. I’d use any one of them, any time.
@jonniegibbins
11 ай бұрын
A) is an African Swallow, B) is a European Swallow and C) is two empty halves of coconuts. Oh, sorry, the African Swallow is non-migratory so it can't be that 😛
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