Hmmm, I wonder what auto to replace my current auto with. Oh, I know! *replace my gnawing hunger with a gnawing hunger*
@ciige6967
4 жыл бұрын
fieldprep + multikillclip all the way
@xtxschmidt
4 жыл бұрын
Exact same roll BUT peep that emblem booooooooooooooooooooooooooooiiiiiiii
@qwamqwamasketilmixum2915
4 жыл бұрын
xtxschmidt is that... a tiny little pyramid on the emblem? Broooooo, you ballin!
@tompramanaaccount8892
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how we replace the curated one right now because my curated gnawing hunger kick me in the nuts. Probably the summoner but I don't like trials.
@ballsdeep6912
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I’m using the same loadout as this season. Eye of Sol Summoner and Leviathans Breath or a machine gun I find works
@SunBurn1223
4 жыл бұрын
Did Datto and aztecross really makes a video on sun setting on the same day? How the stars aligned.
@dkarbassi
4 жыл бұрын
just thought the same thing. :0
@victorbertini5614
4 жыл бұрын
Lets be frank aztercross completely ignored the new swords in his video, when he said "there will be no pinnacle level gear" Datto made the smartest of the 2 videos lol
@cryw1092
4 жыл бұрын
Could be coordinated. Could be coincidence. Either way, good.
@ShinRyuuk
4 жыл бұрын
Cammy's was trying to middle ground argue it, I think, but came off more whiny than intended. Aztec's focus basically leaned on the PvP side of the sunsetting situation, without really going into the unranked/power disabled area everything can still be used. Plus if you really still want revoker and mtop, your other 7 pieces of gear at max power for that season probably can carry you for a few to come. So sunsetting introduces new combos, potentially. Time to watch Datto's.
@doverz6490
4 жыл бұрын
IKR lmao Datto bouta speak some FACTS
@slamjam92
4 жыл бұрын
they'll just bring out a grenade launcher called "The Summit", that'll do it!
@joshuafranz7416
4 жыл бұрын
@Is me ? that weapon shoots backwards, instantly killing you =D
@Ale-dy5ct
4 жыл бұрын
What about "the shut-in" huh? Or "silence"? Even better "21% dementia"
@trustypatches669
4 жыл бұрын
Add a blue special GL named "The Hilltop"
@mohammedjawahri5726
4 жыл бұрын
Extra snacks hand cannon?
@brainer5457
4 жыл бұрын
Perk: 1G
@allspice8769
4 жыл бұрын
Seeing datto's completely empty inventory activates my fight or flight response
@trustypatches669
4 жыл бұрын
Seeing him have no more space for armor annoys the hell out of me.
@autobotzapof0002
4 жыл бұрын
IKR? with how much stuff is dropping and limited vault space, it eerie.
@TheRyman230
4 жыл бұрын
I already spend 20-30 minutes just figuring out what exotics I want to keep, to swap out, and which legendary/blue item I want to infuse/be infused into what. So much inventory management and this destiny god has so many spaces full of stuff and my ADHD just flares up at the thought of dealing with that and I just get overwhelmed. It’s nice to see such clean empty spaces sometimes.
@aaron805
4 жыл бұрын
I’m always at 495/500. Constantly deleting and replacing.
@ArkinesVT
4 жыл бұрын
My vault has one item in it, and that's The Rose because I'm too lazy to finish lumina. My weapons in my inventory usually consist of 3 exotic options and 3 legendary options (except heavy, that's guillotine or exotics) my armor, well, I have one set of armor and exotics. Said armor is the season pass armor because them stats
@cring334
4 жыл бұрын
The reason I love mountaintop is because there is NOTHING LIKE IT. Mountaintop is the ONLY grenade launcher with a shooting straightforward perk.
@olivegardenchef4114
4 жыл бұрын
I could pretty easily see it being introduced as an exotic in the future. Probably won’t get another legendary version tho unless they make it an intrinsic perk, altho it would probably still be worse than mountaintop in terms of dmg and may not have sticky nades.
@BIGBIGburrito12
4 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing! Can’t imagine a life without my mountain top lol
@wood5596
4 жыл бұрын
Love it because it just doesn’t bounce around at all.
@joncampbell822
4 жыл бұрын
This is why it should be an exotic if the perk/gun returns in the future. It outclasses things like fighting lion (i know its primary, but its our only comparison) and is basically a better version of a poorly rolled HEAVY grenade launcher. it has good 1 shot radius, linear fire, and runs on special ammo compared to some gl's that don't have linear fire, get ammo once or twice a game, have slower projectile velocity and just ultimately perform significantly worse than a legendary secondary that has been around for so long that its weird if you don't have it.
@saintjerry5363
4 жыл бұрын
A solution to this problem I think is to make all current pinnacles exotic
@benny7491
4 жыл бұрын
It's impossible to make something close to Mountaintop without making another Mountaintop
@Lynch2507
4 жыл бұрын
Swords exist.
@benny7491
4 жыл бұрын
Oisin Lynch what’s your point?
@JulieLamia
4 жыл бұрын
Any non-capped GLs with Rangefinder? It's the next best thing, since it reduces the arc.
@armward69
4 жыл бұрын
@@Lynch2507 swords have only been meta this season so that argument is flawed, plus dark drinker 2.0 is still bugged and we know bungie will eventually nerf in the future with there current state of use in the sandbox
@formxr
4 жыл бұрын
@@Lynch2507 Swords act literally nothing like Mountaintop...Are you daft?
@MadKingIII
4 жыл бұрын
Retire my whole existence Daddo
@merihs.7944
4 жыл бұрын
10/10
@yungsinnxr5397
4 жыл бұрын
Datto
@cloudyy8989
4 жыл бұрын
@@yungsinnxr5397 r/woooosh
@Skkeem
4 жыл бұрын
MadKingIII daddy datto love me
@AltairF2
4 жыл бұрын
*Shut*
@adi_c-171
4 жыл бұрын
Datto can you review my mothers use of sandals as weapons
@Nero_PR
4 жыл бұрын
Those never miss their target
@tecobel
4 жыл бұрын
It's OP should be nerfed NGL
@carljackson6385
4 жыл бұрын
That exotic will never sunset 🌇
@adi_c-171
4 жыл бұрын
It’s clear that this review is needed
@blackraven6523
4 жыл бұрын
Those have the intrinsic perk “target acquired” and it states that : in the hands of a mother this weapon will do 500% more damage to children and have perfect aim where the target is always hit. This weapon has a chance to do extra lingering damage.
@DragonKnight90001
4 жыл бұрын
The ikelos smg is back too so keep an eye out for when its available
@tomatepotate
4 жыл бұрын
its available right now, in the dungeon
@Antoniomasters
4 жыл бұрын
@@tomatepotate It's not. Ikelos smg comes from the contact event, but the drop is not active yet. The dungeon drops death adder.
@yep9620
4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Guevara wrong
@swanky2202
4 жыл бұрын
Got mine 3 days ago from escalation.
@kristouf4849
4 жыл бұрын
@@swanky2202 They're talking about the new 1.0.2 versions with random rolls + warmind cell generation. EP drops the shitty 1.0.1 version.
@monica3954
4 жыл бұрын
With Loaded Question being sunset, I'm probably never going to touch any of the other Legendary fusions.
@minimoYT
4 жыл бұрын
That's my personal pet peeve with Loaded Question, it's not overpowered, it's just good enough to compete with all the other special weapons. Even exotic fusion rifles like Merciless and Telesto are underwhelming, so when LQ goes away, all we're left with are the boring legendary fusions that are only decent in PvP
@apeman9191
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing at killing groups of adds
@ashb7
4 жыл бұрын
Picked up a Gallant Charge during Season of Dawn with Demolitionist + Swash/MKC, and I won't lie, it doth slap. Hollow Words has a few interesting PvE rolls as well.
@Francisah
4 жыл бұрын
Such a fun weapon. Literally the only fusion I use.
@benarchyuk837
4 жыл бұрын
Main Ingredient with the right roll is pretty good. I mainly use just exotic fusions, like Telesto.
@Dave4G4e
4 жыл бұрын
...I really hope Bungie brings it with the new loot in September, that’s all I can say.
@shotgunmary
4 жыл бұрын
Dave4G4e the player base will head out if they don't.
@jlaffradi1
4 жыл бұрын
I’m ready to head out, hanging on by a thread.
@shebdjsnwddjdnbssjbdbdbejd5589
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao if beyond light fails then they can say goodbye to that 3 year plan.
@sir_gort
4 жыл бұрын
@@jlaffradi1 I'm on the fence because of 3 reasons: 1. Armor sunsetting... why? No reason for it. 2. Weapon recycling. Gnawing Hunger, Night Watch, etc. No new perks. Just Bungie making us regrind the exact same shit. 3. The looming possibility of Exotic sunsetting. Bungie said that Exotics aren't being affected because legendaries are being worked on FIRST. They haven't ruled out Exotic sunsetting, so... If this here happens, I'm done.
@wood5596
4 жыл бұрын
They have to, they literally made a new element, they need to make new weapons with said element
@BananaBoat-qo8tt
4 жыл бұрын
So excited to replace my gnawing hunger with gnawing hunger
@jorzolek01
4 жыл бұрын
I have been farming for a new gnawing hunger with the same roll as my old one.
@purplepanda9201
4 жыл бұрын
Mountain top will never be replaced
@fatpikachu1712
4 жыл бұрын
It is the yr 1 Gjhallarhorn of Grenade Launchers. It ws crazy powerful and an absolute blast to use, but every good thing must come to an end. We don't complain about it being nerfed to oblivion when TTK came out (along with every other yr 1 weapon and armour), we fondly remember melting Raid bosses and Valus Ta'aurc with it. It's probably one of the reasons why they only brought it back once in RoI - re-releasing it would just take away from its value. The same goes for Mountaintop, and Recluse, and Hammerhead, and all the other Top-tier loot from Yr 2.
@high.fructose7534
4 жыл бұрын
@@fatpikachu1712 gjallarhorn didnt have a fucked quest that takes up to 40 hours mate
@levikhani2635
4 жыл бұрын
Good
@Hamuelin
4 жыл бұрын
It’ll come back with The Witch Queen as ValleyBottom. It’ll require 3x the grind, have the same model with a slightly different skin and slightly worse perks.
@TheKuddelmuddel1
4 жыл бұрын
@@high.fructose7534 since momentum control exists you need to play at least blindfolded to need 40h. and as far as I know Gjallarhorn was a random drop back in D1 so you had no guaranteed chance of getting it. its a completely different story.
@CA-yn4iw
4 жыл бұрын
I’m just sad I won’t be able to use loaded question anymore I really loved that thing especially for pve and ad clearing it’s pretty decent in pvp too.
@docdamien7309
4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna miss it so f*ing much. I genuinely feel sad about it.
@WiseSam95
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude so much fun to line it up on.a bunch of adds and watch them all explode :)
@chunkyrabbit1032
4 жыл бұрын
You can still use it in low level content, just not really anything above 1060. It luckily won't get deleted from inventories and collections
@spintowin1362
4 жыл бұрын
@@chunkyrabbit1032 😑
@ExtraordinaryFate
4 жыл бұрын
@@chunkyrabbit1032 Which a majority of people play. PVE wise you can't use it in dungeons, raids, and I'm assuming nightfall
@euphoriagaming9861
4 жыл бұрын
I got a Spike Grenade, Clown Cart, Full Court roll on my Interference and HOLY HELL do I love it!
@pug7514
4 жыл бұрын
Good! You're going to lose it in some months! Yay!
@feldus8205
4 жыл бұрын
Love how its so forgettable that he didn’t even group oxygen sr3 in with the other pinnacle weapons
@jacobdzurica6707
4 жыл бұрын
Nobody uses it anyways
@JadeBull-zg3hb
4 жыл бұрын
The IKELOS smg is definitely something worth looking at. Threat Detector and Surrounded/Demolitionist with the ability to create warmind cells is very powerful
@Facelauss
4 жыл бұрын
The fact that they are giving us the same weapons again with a different season logo is dumb af
@ffxiisucks
4 жыл бұрын
Wait until they call them new weapons.
@finnley905
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can have the exact same roll, masterwork etc. But one caps at 1360 and one at 1060. Fucking ridiculous.
@lemonkes8618
4 жыл бұрын
@@finnley905 really dumb tbh
@Bubiquemado
4 жыл бұрын
dont forget to pay 50 dollars so you can be able to get them again
@shikouji
4 жыл бұрын
Lazy developers
@cjracelo5782
4 жыл бұрын
Bungie bout to send us D2 into the dark ages again
@cspcchcody
4 жыл бұрын
No, we make bungie to do it
@spintowin1362
4 жыл бұрын
@@cspcchcody ???
@cspcchcody
4 жыл бұрын
@@spintowin1362 Well, we keep using those meta weapons and being way too rely on them, which cause power creep (like d1 with fatebringer, black hammer and G-horn in year one), Bungie want to keep the game fresh, so they decided to not let them to import in year 2. We should probably accept to look at those old powerhouse hit retirement to prevent the game become stale and dry.
@SirMattomaton
4 жыл бұрын
@@cspcchcody They (desperately) need to model this game similar to Diablo 3. 1) They need to EMBRACE the fact that some weapons are simply better and are going to be used overwhelmingly more than others.... Simple, very simple, fact of human nature. With this in mind, focus on power escalation! Make better and more enticing weapons and armor; as well as being generous with them and their resources. 2) While chasing this ever escalating power fantasy, just create higher difficulties in PVE to counter the power curve.... Simple fix!! No need to nerf or reduce anything. Because the REWARD of power escalation IS being able to "1 phase" strike bosses and blowing through what was once considered difficult content. 3) For goodness sake, decouple PVE from PVP already!! Those 2 mode have ALWAYS been at odds with each other. Or at very least, develop dividing stats/performances for both game modes. Because if they really make me give up on my Breakneck auto rifle, after all the suffering a I had to endure in gambit to get it... I'm done for good with Destiny 2.
@cspcchcody
4 жыл бұрын
@@SirMattomaton Ikr, thats why I'm not keen to chase pinnacle weapons when I start playing d2. I know the reason of power creep and try not relying on them, I only chase it just because want to know their ability firsthand. I know that when they got retired at beyond light, there is got to be something I can replace on.
@thejew1789
4 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the new sub machine gun “The Arachnid”
@kilesov117
4 жыл бұрын
The Jew it’d probably be something like “Arachnid’s Fang” or something edgy and veisty
@Akunn004
4 жыл бұрын
Like Aztecross said, I'll sunset it for you rather than you sunsetting it for us. Just make weapons that will be or even compete with weapons that were meta. (Make weapons worth grinding), Make perks good like Eye Of the Storm, Zen Moment, Underdog, and why does Armor need to be sunsetted. Like seriously with Bungie saying we can make any builds we want but, we are being restricted on builds due sunsetting like the Warmind mods were decent and the Dawn mods were even better. I hope Bungie see's what the community has to say. The seasonal artifact doesn't help us much either.
@aerow6192
4 жыл бұрын
They need a system where if you get a newer version OF a brought back weapon, infusing will give your old weapon a new life span
@sirmcdust5572
4 жыл бұрын
That's the one thing bothering me. I don't have a real problem with reintroducing weapons, as long as enough new weapons come with them. But not being able to use my old version because of a symbol on it seems stupid. I have a god roll gnawing hunger from before but despite the weapon being upgraded my godroll will be useless soon. If this is going to be the trend going forward I'd be very dissapointed.
@aerow6192
4 жыл бұрын
@@sirmcdust5572 Yeah! If a system like this existed, I think people would be less upset about reintroduced weapons
@sir_gort
4 жыл бұрын
@@sirmcdust5572 Oh, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Bungie, if you remember one of their TWABs, they said that Exotics aren't being sunsetted because legendaries are being worked on FIRST. This might mean they'll do some sort of Exotic sunsetting at some point.
@high.fructose7534
4 жыл бұрын
If I have to redo the 21% or mountaintop quest, I'm gonna riot
@garypart393
4 жыл бұрын
This sucks, 4 planets gone, leviathan gone, most of my favourite weapons capped at 1060, goodbye destiny 2.
@BirdMoose
4 жыл бұрын
The perk where reloading after a kill reloads stowed weapons is insane on bows, one quick bow shot reloads your heavy and special.
@Nogardborn
4 жыл бұрын
Bungie did handle sunsetting bad... Just slapping a new logo on old weapons was not the way to go. And i feel like we all said that and relayed that back to Bungie
@antny645
4 жыл бұрын
Bro we knew that was coming the true test is the fall. We haven't even hit sunsetting yet. Let's see how the fall goes
@Zer0v7
4 жыл бұрын
If you think thats how theyre handling sunsetting you are truly wrong lol. Stop using this season as an example of Sunsetting when it hasnt happened yet.... These weapons are here for ppl to have a base line of weapons to access before fall. Imagine complaining about getting a Gnawing hunger from just playing the game instead of hours of RNG on a shitty bridge.
@njebs.
4 жыл бұрын
@@Zer0v7 having to reobtain the exact same roll of gnawing hunger seems kinda counterintuitive of the looter shooter model, don't you think?
@iamcreamingbecause1061
4 жыл бұрын
go back to r/dtg sunsetting has not even happened yet. only like, 3 weapons don't have new perks on them. stop whining.
@Zer0v7
4 жыл бұрын
@@njebs. not exactly the same bud you can have two end perks like season of dawn weapons so a perk for pve and for pvp
@skidmarcz6747
4 жыл бұрын
I binned everything being sunsetted on the first day of Arrivals. It's actually fun dumping the predictable, and finding more 'God' rolls. I'll be glad to see the back of recluse and mountain top....ooh, controversial!!
@fatpikachu1712
4 жыл бұрын
I agree, you actually get to think "oh what rolls does this gun have, and where can I use it?" Instead of "oh I got a super OP gun that will always have the same roll, time to use it for everything!"
@detonater7441
4 жыл бұрын
YES I can’t wait for all this food I bought to rot!
@cayde-6288
4 жыл бұрын
@@detonater7441 nah I ate my fair share of it
@belebih
4 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about sharding most of my vault too but man it's difficult. So many good weapons. Can't bring myself to do it just yet.
@paulwade5853
4 жыл бұрын
The feeding frenzy nerf has basically killed Recluse anyway
@Sukkulents_
4 жыл бұрын
I just still don’t see the point of armour sunsetting
@SirMattomaton
4 жыл бұрын
After all the resources you have to dump into this new armor system... that pisses me off almost as much as them attempting to retire my Breakneck. F**k off Bungie.
@Sukkulents_
4 жыл бұрын
Sir Mattomaton I know right, unless you go flawless multiple times every week in trials, there’s no way you have enough ascendant shards to keep your gear up to date like this
@ArkinesVT
4 жыл бұрын
Armor retirement is dumb, weapon retirement makes sense
@hattakie
4 жыл бұрын
Its a YEAR, not a month, you can get more materials in a YEAR
@vanduezen3037
4 жыл бұрын
The grind and regrind. Question is, at what point does starting over stop being fun?
@brachyboy1874
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like cross just fed us for the news about the apocalypse and datto is helping us doomsday prep for it
@foist101
4 жыл бұрын
Literally the only thing I'm annoyed about is the fact that they sold Legendary ornaments. You KNOW I bought those Menagerie weapon ornaments.
@dockickman7104
4 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat. Refund my shit, or let me use those weapons. They literally sold a Legendary ornament last season, so what the actual fuck is with that.
@biggy9619
4 жыл бұрын
That's honestly the most disrespectful thing they could do. Then again, hindsight is 20/20 and they're probably gonna pull back on legendary ornaments or make them earnable in game rather than a micro transaction (at least I hope).
@doubletrouble5276
4 жыл бұрын
Did you buy those with real money?
@garypart393
4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the old DLCS we all paid for, 4 planets gone in September, bungie are taking the piss.
@biggy9619
4 жыл бұрын
Gary Part we paid to play the content and we did. They later made it free for everyone in new light. I don’t think the 0.10% of people who replay those missions/planets/strikes religiously should be catered to if the game’s progression is hindered because of it.
@GEVOfficial
3 жыл бұрын
0:35 Oh Datto... how wrong you were
@Audreyegg
4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get a year 5 version of spare rations,recluse and mountain top
@aa4a-a4
2 жыл бұрын
As unpopular as sunsetting was, and even with season 12/13 really hurting for loot as a result of it, I feel like it was good for the game in the long term. It allowed oppressive and extremely strong weapons to be cycled out in favor of a newer weapon variety. There's a reason most other games have regular loot and power resets.
@thatcup6475
4 жыл бұрын
Mountaintop is the only thing I’m scared to lose lol everything else I already have a decent replacement and I’m tired of using the same meta weapons all the time anyways
@bonebreaker9103
4 жыл бұрын
Im sąd to replace wendigo
@formxr
4 жыл бұрын
Ya I've legit only used mountaintop since I got it like 5 months ago. It's so versatile for any activity. Gonna really miss it for high end stuff.
@paulwade5853
4 жыл бұрын
@@bonebreaker9103 I'm with you m8, the suppression Wendy provides is irreplaceable
@Alex-pq2fv
4 жыл бұрын
Tired of only using meta weapons but sounds like you use mountaintop a lot 🤔 lol
@thatcup6475
4 жыл бұрын
Alex Roeszler that’s because it is the best pve option in the game I’d be dumb not to use it but with it gone it will be breath of fresh air
@munaokoro
4 жыл бұрын
I understand *why* they're retiring weapons, but it still sucks to see. Thanks for making this vid so sunsetting can suck a little less :)
@antny645
4 жыл бұрын
So you would rather use these same guns for next 3 years.
@antny645
4 жыл бұрын
I bet you are one of those people who complain about revoker being OP huh. You do realize there is nothing they can do to revoker to balance it. Except for sunset it. This is bungies solution to getting rid of broken and TBH I'm fucking down with it. I'm sick and tired of using the same 3 guns for every mildly hard pve activity. I'm tired of seeing the same 2 loadouts in PVP at the high level it's time for change. And you can't just add stronger guns it don't work like that. This is how you fix one of the biggest issues in the game and all I have to say is deal with it
@rex4185
4 жыл бұрын
@@antny645 one problem the other weapons are just not good
@jjakkal_
4 жыл бұрын
TeeL bro just said he’s sad about sun setting no need to write a paragraph about why you believe it needs to be done lmaooo
@xeno2435
4 жыл бұрын
@@antny645 He didn't seem like complaining but rather giving his opinion, but u on the other hand seem like crying like an 11 year old 😂
@LakerTriangle
4 жыл бұрын
You and Aztecross planned this back-to-back¿?
@Ben_Fett
4 жыл бұрын
Best replacement for Recluse is a well rolled Last Hope, or a similar Omolon sidearm. I've got a Feeding Frenzy + Rampage version of it that just SLAYS.
@sir_gort
4 жыл бұрын
I don't have one with Feeding Frenzy, but instead Quickdraw. I think it's a nice alternative.
@GaminRiolu
4 жыл бұрын
just make micro missle into a normal perk that rolls on things. i honestly do hope some of these pinnacle perks get turned into just regular perks in the future even if they need to nerfed (which is why killing tally i wouldnt expect to see return since its just a better version of rampage)
@Kazuhira2249
4 жыл бұрын
it should be an ammo perk
@glizzygladiator7703
4 жыл бұрын
Im surprised this video has not been made a week later considering that we have year 1 iron banner weapons coming back including forward path, which will probably be the best auto rifle available in the kinetic slot.
@aidanking6179
4 жыл бұрын
Is everyone gonna ignore him popping up on the screen to say 7 when talking about Jian 7?
@blacksage81
4 жыл бұрын
Datto mentions the "God Roll" Last Hope. Oh, maybe I should try to grab one. Maybe the chase will help me slog through bounties... Me: Checks Vault. Already has a Last Hope with Feeding Frenzy + Multi-kill clip. Also Me: well shit, there goes that excuse
@Epsilon889
4 жыл бұрын
Hear me out....bring Mountaintop back as an exotic. High damage but it takes an exotic slot
@minimoYT
4 жыл бұрын
It's the only pinnacle that I'd be perfectly fine with if it returned as an exotic, more practical than Witherhoard, but with less damage overall
@matthewirish2676
4 жыл бұрын
@Qwerty Bastard Salty boy
@arjunramesh1681
4 жыл бұрын
My opinion doesn’t matter much I think but as a mostly PvP player I really don’t want Mountaintop coming back in any shape or form in trials. Mountaintop + pretty much any other weapon is by FAR the most degenerate loadout in the game imo, across D1 and D2 both
@joeysmith8819
4 жыл бұрын
The mountaintop (adept)
@arjunramesh1681
4 жыл бұрын
Lawrence Lancellotti nnnnNNOOOO
@VitaminP
4 жыл бұрын
I'm really excited for the new guns to come around, what I'm not psyched for is for casual pvp to still have all the old meta guns still floating around since power doesn't matter pphands
@LordDamo
4 жыл бұрын
new guns they gonna give you the same weapons again probably and maybe 2 new weapons
@multidinero
4 жыл бұрын
When you’re talking sidearms, how does no one mention Traveler’s Judgement 5? A great sidearm with a massive magazine and a great perk pool. Though not at the maximum power, it will last unlit light level 1260. Such a solid weapon!
@Adcts
4 жыл бұрын
Issue being you can no longer get a Traveler's Judgement 5 anymore.
@cayde-6288
4 жыл бұрын
@@Adcts and? Doesn't change it's viability
@archangelgabriel8493
4 жыл бұрын
I have a roll of Dragonfly and feeding frenzy that has about 10k kills on it, I love it.
@15liran
4 жыл бұрын
Holding onto mine for sure!
@warv6552
4 жыл бұрын
Cayde -6 Wouldn’t really be useful information to give out since you can’t farm for a god roll anymore.
@linearcurve
4 жыл бұрын
it’s worth noting that if you don’t have an SMG specific build and you just need something functionally similar to recluse, you can get some choice gnawing hunger rolls that fill that void
@Nwall-E_
4 жыл бұрын
datto sounds so energized and happy in this video i love it
@asickmuse2612
4 жыл бұрын
Sun sitting is a recycle program, don't worry, these so call "Out Dated" weapon will be renamed for new grind.
@philipbeasley3652
4 жыл бұрын
Hello, my name is imago loop....Nice to...meet you...for the...first time...
@LordTonzilla
4 жыл бұрын
The Ikelos sniper which rolls with Fourth Time's the Charm and High Impact Reserves for you solo players out there." Dude, it comes from the dungeon. It's not for us solo players out here.
@blakeerenhouse943
4 жыл бұрын
And now umbral engrams to
@jareddavulture58
4 жыл бұрын
Really?
@LordTonzilla
4 жыл бұрын
@@jareddavulture58 Yeah, no. The exodus umbral engrams came out after this comment.
@InfernoPhilM
4 жыл бұрын
I like Truthteller more than Mountaintop because I love auto loading holster. Mine has shield disruption too. And the choice of spike and blinding, it’s really a great roll.
@HanzsKlopek
4 жыл бұрын
I'm still sad about Midnight Coup. I just can't live without it. I still carry it on my Hunter and always will.
@michaelmeleady7303
4 жыл бұрын
The only thing bungo is sun setting is its player base. Guess Activision wasn't such a bad guy after all.
@WikiED
4 жыл бұрын
activision is working by chasing money, you cant have money without playerbase. They prob saw all the issues game had, stubborn team behind it and decided that fixing all of it is not worth giving up support studios and trying to fix the game. Sotp held season of black armory together and is a solid raid till today, was not made by bungo, but by secondary studio. CoS is amazing, trash loot but solid raid filling up the void bungo proves can't fill. Activision giving up was actually a red flag, they would NOT abandon a money cow.
@literallyanythingelse7747
4 жыл бұрын
I randomly got rampage and feeding frenzy on False Promise. Such a great combo and is one of my favorite pve weapons already
@hawkmoonplz2299
4 жыл бұрын
Mtop one of the most iconic guns up there with the greats (Hawkmoon ,gjhorn,vex mytho )
@Red-tn3wm
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not grinding for armor or weapons ever again, so this might be my last season playing Destiny 2. I came in as a new light player but it took months to get my desired rolls and stats. I'll just go play a new game if I have to do that shit all over again.
@kingofearls3752
4 жыл бұрын
LMAO new light players smh, you weren’t meant for the destiny grind if you weren’t ready for this.
@sleazygaming5457
4 жыл бұрын
@@kingofearls3752 Doing the same thing over and over again is not a grind; it's insanity. Grinding involves an idea of working towards something better than before. Sunsetting is just a clever concept for lazy development. But if you don't believe me, try hitting your head against some drywall that is continually replaced every time you make a crack. Maybe then you'll understand.
@ghostboi5173
4 жыл бұрын
@@sleazygaming5457 agreed. Its a video game for the love of god. Bungie needs to learn how to make us have FUN
@TBONE_2004
4 жыл бұрын
Bye, Red! I hear Fortnite's new season is fun! You don't deserve to play this game if you don't know the agony us veteran players have endured. You're not allowed to play with us, kid.
@Red-tn3wm
4 жыл бұрын
@@TBONE_2004 "Veteran players", "don't deserve to play..." Cringe as fuck lmfao.
@Louis-bs7ns
4 жыл бұрын
Sunsetting and the unrelenting power level grind has moved me from dedicated player to sidelined casual. I will not be buying anymore season passes and likely won’t buy the DLC. You can try to justify sunsetting all day, but at the end of the day, it’s not palatable in the least. I’m out.
@rich_vega
4 жыл бұрын
"Seven"
@cring334
4 жыл бұрын
Keep Mountaintop or make the straightforward torpedo perk more common. Like give me a raid weapon with micro missile, and I’ll be happy with it. Like Wrath had specific perks that made a perk better. Give me a grenade launcher with full court and micro missile, or rangefinder and micro missile, and I’ll be over the moon. I think that wrath had prototype pinnacle weapons-weapons with specific perks that made the gun stand out and improved the main perk. I can imagine receiving something like breakneck, loaded question, mountaintop, or hush from wrath. Those guns are well-designed with unique perks that benefit the main perk-rampage, auto-loading, opening shot, rangefinder. I like the concepts of the pinnacle weapons, but looking at the season 11 weapons with their 1360 power cap against mountaintop with a 1060 power cap makes me really skeptical about “your favorite weapons will still be usable in base content.” Like what, strikes? Patrols? The new patrol zones will probably have higher power floors, like how Dreaming City and the Moon did. The sunset weapons are technically in the game, but you have effectively made them useless. Think about the swap from year 1 to year 2. You saw NOBODY using fatebringer, even though it’s max power was 170 and the dreadnaught was like 240. That’s only a power difference of 70. Currently we are talking about a power difference of 300, or looking towards lightfall, 900 power levels of difference. That is not OK.
@mariogorgees3489
4 жыл бұрын
False Promises can roll with Overflow if you throw on a backup mag + extend mag perk you can get a very large magazine, highest I got was 88 rounds (44 + Overflow)
@GeekyNerd_FTW
4 жыл бұрын
I must say I’m out of the loop on the “Jian 7” meme
@joshroblez9846
4 жыл бұрын
he said the wrong number and corrected it in post
@AlphynKing
4 жыл бұрын
“Interference is the second GL to roll with Full Court” Love and Death:
@onyonrong9244
4 жыл бұрын
Love and death is getting sunset anyways so best forget about it now lol
@formxr
4 жыл бұрын
He said Full court AND Auto-loading, not just full court. Listen next time.
@furryikleewok
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve returned this season for the first time since destiny 1. Found it all very overwhelming, but this video especially is a big help. TY
@kotickyle
4 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem right now is the weapons I've bought ornaments for. I wouldn't have bought them knowing the weapons would be going away this soon. Like, I've bought both Austringer ornaments and that's pretty much half the price of the Fall DLC. I get why some of these need to go. My smaller gripe is that I don't just use all those same weapon archetypes. I know it'll be a while before another of the archetype is introduced.
@unLuckyFetus
4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, they'll bring back a bunch of weapons from D1 and everyone will be back on the bungo train redoing VOG 🤣
@Ale-dy5ct
4 жыл бұрын
And don't forget cosmodrome lmaooo let's make them pay 40 bucks for stuff they already paid for in the other game
@alejandrobg4393
4 жыл бұрын
@@Ale-dy5ct but VoG and Cosmodrome will be free
@fatpikachu1712
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, if it's fun I won't be complaining
@Lynch2507
4 жыл бұрын
.... yeah? Damn, how dare people ENJOY Destiny lmao
@anthonyargueta131
4 жыл бұрын
@@Ale-dy5ct it's free b o i
@misterqwuan2530
4 жыл бұрын
I'm.mostly just sad about loaded question. It was such a satisfying gun
@miramurph3975
4 жыл бұрын
this has got to be some of the best d2 sunsetting info ive ever heard. thank you datto!
@henryschroder3450
4 жыл бұрын
Gnawing hunger looks and feels amazing. And its void and grat perks - Perfect.
@Romulus63
4 жыл бұрын
I love the argument of "you can still you your weapons in low level content" , Like what patrols? Majority of low level content is either garbage like patrols or is getting removed like old raids
@lambseuslocated8069
4 жыл бұрын
Ye its funny bro. They said the exact same thing in D1 and look what happened
@alejandrotellez2962
4 жыл бұрын
Crucible, vanguard strikes, old dungeons.
@lambseuslocated8069
4 жыл бұрын
@@alejandrotellez2962 I love this argument because ppl said this in D1 and guess what, NO ONE USED THEM IN THEM ACTIVITIES
@Owl_19
4 жыл бұрын
patrol, strikes, all but 2 crucible modes (cannot stress this one enough), garden, last wish, shattered throne, pit of heresy. just to name a few
@blakeerenhouse943
4 жыл бұрын
LambSauceLocated stuff like revoker and Beloved could still very well be used in Crucible just because there isn’t a clear replacement sniper for PvP
@SirMattomaton
4 жыл бұрын
They (desperately) need to model this game similar to Diablo 3. 1) They need to EMBRACE the fact that some weapons are simply better and are going to be used overwhelmingly more than others.... Simple, very simple, fact of human nature. With this in mind, focus on power escalation! Make better and more enticing weapons and armor; as well as being generous with them and their resources. 2) While chasing this ever escalating power fantasy, just create higher difficulties in PVE to counter the power curve.... Simple fix!! No need to nerf or reduce anything. Because the REWARD of power escalation IS being able to "1 phase" strike bosses and blowing through what was once considered difficult content. 3) For goodness sake, decouple PVE from PVP already!! Those 2 mode have ALWAYS been at odds with each other. Or at very least, develop dividing stats/performances for both game modes. Because if they really make me give up on my Breakneck auto rifle, after all the suffering I had to endure in gambit to get it... I'm done for good with Destiny 2.
@edwardrichard8093
4 жыл бұрын
Its probably extremely difficult to seperate pve and pvp at this point if they havnt done it already at least I'm hoping thats the reason because without pvp they'd be able to do so much for pve without having to worry about the pvp balance.
@SirMattomaton
4 жыл бұрын
@@edwardrichard8093 This yet another reason why they just need to put D2 to rest and get a D3 going. Not to mention that would reinvigorate a lot more people back into this franchise. I've seen several large clans sit almost completely dead for months. It's sad.
@HomeGymEnjoyer
4 жыл бұрын
I already posted this on aztecross' video on sunsetting, but I felt like it would be fitting if I posted this here too. If bungie would just give players an incentive to use different weapons and armor, they wouldn't need to implement sunsetting. The problem with Destiny's design is that the only thing that matters is doing the most amount of damage in the least amount of time, so is it a surprise to anybody that with a system like this, players naturally tend to gravitate to the same 3 weapons? If you want the player to have long-term engagement, the solution is to give the player more viable options, not force them into using other things. The main way to do this is to add armor set bonuses and expand and overhaul the skill trees, then have those armor set bonuses and new perk combinations make a ton of other weapons much more viable in end game, and then balance the end game content (raids, nightfalls, etc) to incentivize having a diverse cast of builds, rather than very homogeneous gear setups. The division 2 is a very strong example of how to do this correctly. The problem with the division 2 is that they do a bad job at incentivizing using different builds, so it's very important that D2 gets that right of they ever decided to go in that direction which I definitely think they should. There. I just solved sunsetting. If an idiot like me can figure it out, than so could Bungie. They either have absolutely no idea what they're doing, insist on keeping the system the way it is, or maybe they're working on a change like that for the next DLC and are simply keeping their cards close to their chest. TL;DR. I think that bungie should take heavy inspiration from the division 2 in terms of rpg mrchanics which would completely eliminate any need for sunsetting.
@mikepictor
4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea about this max light thing. My poor midnight coup, my nation of beasts, my threat level, tempered dynamo, tyranny of heaven...ALL MY BABIES
@locallypwned5680
4 жыл бұрын
8:58 I have never seen a man look so dead inside.
@jeffburghduf6227
4 жыл бұрын
Poor jian 7
@SixEighthOfficial
4 жыл бұрын
The fact Datto had to make a video on what weapons to use to replace your current pinnacles sums up why sunsetting is stupid. We're not grinding for these other weapons bc they're better or different, they're the closest thing to what we have right now and that's the best the we can get? I'm sorry but for a triple A game studio to retire all its gear 3 years into it's lifecycle only to throw in bland and boring gear, I'll pass.
@PureTrueMetal
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it was mentioned in the vid, but I think it's worth pointing out. We have more weapons with max infusion caps coming back for IB also. The Forward Path The Fool’s Remedy Shining Sphere Swarm of the Raven Talons of the Eagle Bite of the Fox Orewing’s Maul Crimil’s Dagger
@j.d.5709
4 жыл бұрын
Chattering Bone is still a great Pulse from Last Wish.
@cring334
4 жыл бұрын
I understand why they’re doing it, but some of the weapons I really like (my god roll Go Figure) are being sunset regardless. If Bungie said something about certain weapons gaining perks (or even something like an exotic mountaintop that or a grenade launcher that shoots straightforward) I’d be ok with it. I like the idea of making pinnacle perks mods, but I’m angry because I feel like grinding weapons doesn’t matter. It’ll be useless in a year. I’m not looking forward to it. If pinnacle or super good weapons got sunset, that’d be one thing; but losing basic legendary weapons, like my Go Figure or God Roll Gnawing Hunger. I don’t like armor being sunset at all. I’d be ok with something along the lines of Etheric Light that worked on most weapons: you could make a weapon viable for the next year. I don’t think it should be able to work with stupidly powerful weapons like Recluse, but I’m going to be incredibly pissed when I’m going to lose my outlaw/rampage go figure.
@ctrlcf
4 жыл бұрын
I literally just watched Aztecross' video on sunsetting lmao
@vegitosynsei
4 жыл бұрын
@Trevor Hecht So you're ok with Bungie bringing back weapons/gear we grinded for and calling it "pinnacle gear"?
@vegitosynsei
4 жыл бұрын
@Trevor Hecht Be more specific? All I asked was a question. And to give examples look at the Escalation Protocol weapons are in the new Dungeon. Uriel's Gift, different weapons we had in Year 1 and 2 you can get from the new Dungeon.
@lambseuslocated8069
4 жыл бұрын
@Trevor Hecht Same can be said about the other side but hey ho. I don't see how ppl can defend and put so much faith into bungie with this crap with the countless fuck ups they have
@pluto3194
4 жыл бұрын
@@vegitosynsei None of the stuff they brought back is labeled as pinnacle though?
@ModuliOfRiemannSurfaces
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sad about sunsetting but tears of joy shall fall when I don't get Mountaintopped in PVP anymore.
@mattmanley7118
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly I've been playing for about a month and everybody and their mother has mountaintop I understand why the grind is horrendous but this is why they are doing this everybody's using the same goddamn loadouts If they're just going to blame bungie for this then they need to look at themselves first
@Deleteyourself83
4 жыл бұрын
Pvp is the only place you'll still be able to use it though
@lambseuslocated8069
4 жыл бұрын
Well... You will
@sadd3ath738
4 жыл бұрын
don't worry guys now datto can feel EXCITED getting things like gnawing hunger that he already had with just a different symbol on it, WOOHOO
@sarsante
4 жыл бұрын
"plenty of replacement weapons" refarm gwaning hunger, nightwatch and others weapons exactly like the ones I do have already are not replacements bro
@blakeerenhouse943
4 жыл бұрын
U don’t have to farm hunger or night watch since they are in the Umbral engrams. Especially considering those two exact weapons are in their own unique umbral engram together.
@TheLvkrijger
4 жыл бұрын
When weapons retire, players will retire as simple as that. It only rewards players that don't have much playtime.
@minimoYT
4 жыл бұрын
It encourages you to do like 5 strikes and get a "good enough" roll that you don't really care about and will dismantle in 6 months tops anyway
@LordRedfern
4 жыл бұрын
I have already gone full cold turkey on my weapons i use. I used to have curated and god rolled weapons in my vault from all seasons, the moment they announced the sunsetting of weapons from season 8 and below i went and deleted everything from season 8 and below. That way my vault has more space, I am now playing with the weapon set that everyone will be forced to use in many activities come season 12, granted we will be getting new gear in season 12, but by going cold turkey it will not be a shock to my system when all those lovely weapons that we all enjoy using get sunset. Honestly it is nice to do, it is a shock at first but it does make the game feel fresh when you are using weapons you would not normally use. Doing this has also forced me to use more varied exotic weapons too. I cannot remember that last time i use an exotic bow or exotic machine gun in the game, but now i have deleted things like my hammerhead and 21% delirium, it has made me use things like xenophage, thunderlord and even exotic bows again and it is so nice to do so.
@darkacb8422
3 жыл бұрын
i think something that would help people (including myself) have less of an issue with sun setting is by adding weapon transmog. that way we can get the look and sound of a weapon we love while also replacing it. everybody wins.
@mando_dablord2646
4 жыл бұрын
After Recluse got nerfed, I kinda just stopped using it. It's still a very good, solid gun. But I started using other guns just because it started being uninteresting.
@SaintSeya1
4 жыл бұрын
I am genuinely curious to see the number of active players after the weapon and armor retiring. I know I am not coming back.
@garypart393
4 жыл бұрын
Me too, how much are bungie charging for the next season, 40 dollars, 4 planets gone, leviathan gone, weapon sunsetting, goodbye destiny 2.
@wood5596
4 жыл бұрын
Bye
@eggplant4418
4 жыл бұрын
Aztecross and now Datto what a day to be on KZitem
@rongrover3650
4 жыл бұрын
Sympathetic Arsenal on the new bow and auto rifle synergize really well with rocket launchers this season. That's my current build, with a shotgun special to also benefit from the reloading.
@lolosh99
4 жыл бұрын
Is ir just me or does night watch always drop with a god roll? I have like 5 god rolls and counting
@minimoYT
4 жыл бұрын
Many of the Reckoning weapons have basically no bad rolls, I never got a bad Outlast, a bad Gnawing Hunger, or a bad Lonesome, all of them were decent at worst
@devilman1996
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair i rarely use “meta” loadout so the sun setting doesn’t affecting my gameplay pretty much
@RemyMa88
4 жыл бұрын
I thank Bungie for teaching me not to grind for their pinnacle weapons ever again. Sun setting those weapons that people, including myself, spent HOURS grinding Comp and such for is a gigantic slap in the fucking face.
@flansquadgaming9286
4 жыл бұрын
The power grind each season, the grind for armor materials each season, weapons going away, etc... all of it sucks because it makes me just hate putting time in knowing it’ll go away and I eventually just settle for “alright” gear. But the worst is telling my friends who left and all of them just not caring enough to go through all that grinding trouble to just feel caught up, it’s sucks that sunsetting literally killed any chance of my friends ever joining back into Destiny, really sucks man.
@sands201
4 жыл бұрын
Tip: If you don’t want to deal with the bs that is weapon retirement. Just quit the game.
@teslafoil1505
4 жыл бұрын
I think that's the plan for many of us.
@vChilly
4 жыл бұрын
I hate how my grind for all these guns in the past are going to waste
@ironlorddragon9397
4 жыл бұрын
my old fashion has feeding frenzy, kill clip, drop mag, and stability masterwork
@zachariahpickens5962
4 жыл бұрын
Datto, not sure if you know but all raids are going to be put up to level. they said so in a twab. So there are some weapons there.
@asimplefarmer6747
4 жыл бұрын
Ngl I've already replaced recluse with a feeding frenzy dragonfly death adder, and I kinda like it more, it just feels better to me and I like the sight much better, not to mention I feel like I get much more use out of feeding frenzy, mostly due to getting multikills much more often.
@redgreatspot7471
4 жыл бұрын
I already replace my with a potato
@lhanno22
4 жыл бұрын
Shutup you fool
@Saterienne
4 жыл бұрын
recluse... also... has... feeding... frenzy...
@asimplefarmer6747
4 жыл бұрын
@@Saterienne I know, I just said I get feel I get more use out of feeding frenzy on death adder. With recluse, specifically in higher end content, I don't often get more than 3 kills max with one mag unless I'm spraying down thrall. With the rework, it means that there isn't a big reload speed bonus until you get those 4th and 5th kills.
@asimplefarmer6747
4 жыл бұрын
@@lhanno22 no, thanks
@arnabghosh6636
4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to replacing recluse, gnawing hunger should work very well.
@csnation
4 жыл бұрын
As a casual D2 player, Loaded question served me without question for over a year. It is the only weapon that I keep upgrading religiously. I will be reaaaally annoyed if they made a u-turn and return it with a different icon.
@JMatrx
4 жыл бұрын
Jian 7 ricochet, full auto trigger, range finder. Basically a sniper rifle in PvP. It also drops full auto-rampage which I think is nice for PVE also.
@ThatFalloutGod
4 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe people are just allowing Bungie to go back on their word over something that 60-70% of players, at the least, don't like, and essentially tells everyone that their time isn't valuable to Bungie in the slightest. And that's all before Bungie stealing people's money by getting rid of content we've already paid for and is part of the main game, all because the management are lazy and incompetent, and at least seemingly without a shred of remorse. Who would've thought that Destiny's darkest days would come after the split from Activision... Oh wait, anyone with a functioning prefrontal cortex and rudimentary knowledge on the shenanigans going-on in Bungie since the development of the first game, and that Activision (somehow) was actually a great publisher the entire time.
@AnMoron
4 жыл бұрын
That's epic and all, but I'm pretty sure 60% of the game's player base couldn't give a fuck about armor stats or weapon perks or even the fact that weapons are being sunset in the first place considering that all they do is run around in patrol, do strikes and play crucible at a low level, all of which are scaled to 750. I'm also pretty sure that way less than 60% of the game's playerbase even has the time to care, nevermind be angry about, about things that haven't even implemented yet. Stop pulling autistic subreddit/twitter circlejerk reaction numbers and 5 year old developer interviews out of your ass.
@IM4plebz
4 жыл бұрын
Looking at the comments above, I am tempted to find out data for how many people actually take part in high level content
@blakeerenhouse943
4 жыл бұрын
How are they stealing our money when they already released the DLC for free with new light? Not to mention those destinations/activities were completely barren nobody gave a shit about them. It’s just another case of people not using something until it’s taken away.
@mun123keet
4 жыл бұрын
Make Mountaintop's Micro-Missile perk available on other lightweight GLs, or return Mountaintop as an exotic. As much as I dread it in PvP, Mountaintop is a blast to use in PvE and it's sad that nothing will be able to replace or replicate it. (Maybe except Witherhoard)
@mike-0451
4 жыл бұрын
I wish it just disappeared. I haven’t played pvp since that thing came out since it’s fucking impossible to play without destroying my seam after seeing ANOTHER FUCKING EDGY 12 YEAR OLD HUNTER JUMPING JN MID AIR LIKE A DUMBASS EXPOSING HIMSELF BUT ITS IK CAUSE HE JUST HAS TO POINT AND CLICK THEN SWITCH TO A HANDCANNON AND ONE SHOT ME.
@emile-929
4 жыл бұрын
@@mike-0451 you ok man?
@mike-0451
4 жыл бұрын
- Deek- I will break into bungie studios and delete the hunter class
@emile-929
4 жыл бұрын
@@mike-0451 I don't blame you lmao
@high.fructose7534
4 жыл бұрын
@@mike-0451 lol it's not even meta for pvp. I see one about every ten games
@joshtodd3322
4 жыл бұрын
The ikelos smg is going to be coming soon this season, and is looking to be pretty good, threat detector or subsistence, and demolitionist, vorpal, or surrounded.
@mrtom5679
3 ай бұрын
Here from 3 years in the future, mountaintop, recluse, hammerhead and blast furnace are all back in the game lol
Пікірлер: 1,4 М.