It’s crazy to think that the Hive Gods could have been lightbearers had the Witness not lied to Savathun about the Traveler
@DarthDragon007
Жыл бұрын
And with how powerful Savathun was as a newly risen they would've been nearly unstoppable.
@gmoney_404
Жыл бұрын
They wouldn't have been lightbearers like the guardians. They would've been blessed by the Traveler like the Eliskni we're and like we were before the collapse.
@Brian-wp9er
Жыл бұрын
@@gmoney_404 right, the traveler only gave us ghosts before it went dormant so we could fight off the darkness and defend the traveler
@AdeptKing
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if they would have been lightbearers right away. It might have just been like the Eliskni and humanity during its golden age. Humanity being turned into lightbearers was something that had never been done before.
@arceustheo
Жыл бұрын
OSISUS OSISUS OSISUS !!!
@DiscordN7
Жыл бұрын
If Cayde is returning our old enemy might rise as well
@jamezzz0035
Жыл бұрын
taniks, the resurrected
@realnoble676
Жыл бұрын
@@jamezzz0035 bro bring him back again for the meme I wont even be mad😂
@realnoble676
Жыл бұрын
@@jamezzz0035 taniks the immortal**
@GuilhermeHenrique-tz5mn
Жыл бұрын
@@jamezzz0035 oh my, don't even write this name. Someone at bungie may see this and think it's a good idea
@shivertheiguana
Жыл бұрын
Taniks, Lightborn
@mayhem-2889
Жыл бұрын
A light risen huge oryx would’ve been a major disaster! Now that his body is gathered from ikora wonder what will happen now
@_The_Seeker_
Жыл бұрын
Now we have a giant krill feast in the tower
@idkwhatcoolnametouse8987
Жыл бұрын
We have two of their corpses now; both Oryx and Savathun. What we do with it, idk but at this rate, I wanna know where we're keeping Oryx's body.
@swalke6861
Жыл бұрын
@@idkwhatcoolnametouse8987we’re going to turn it into a weapon after we let oryx be resurrected the we kill oryx then turn it into a weapon
@godknightomega
Жыл бұрын
Oryx lived for the Sword Logic. Him being resurrected would go against EVERYTHING he was. He might just self terminate as soon as he's brought back. The question is what is Savathun's plan? Immaru is leading the Lucent Brood in Savathun's absence. The regular Hive and the Lucent Brood probably won't see eye to eye.
@BearlyBearrr
Жыл бұрын
@@godknightomega maybe he wouldnt know it until he learns of his past memories
@SETHBENTON09
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the next raid is just Xivu and Oryx as encounter bosses with the Witness being the final boss
@pandodp1708
Жыл бұрын
love this theroy
@jasonbryce2935
Жыл бұрын
That would be the raid to end all raids. I like it.
@unholypepe
Жыл бұрын
i'm thinking that we sauce Xivu at the end of the season but we fight Oryx, Fikrul, and Crota (in seperate encounters mind you) in the final shape raid before The Witness
@soundwave4236
Жыл бұрын
my idea of a Final Boss before The Witness in a Raid, is Rhulk and Nezarec somehow resurrected and now at full power
@SavathunSussyImpostor
Жыл бұрын
A huge raid with 18 players
@RONNIE5579
Жыл бұрын
So the hidden now have the remains of savathun and oryx. We are slowly and casually collecting hive gods and storing them like trophys 😂
@wikitiki209
Жыл бұрын
Some bad shit is gonna happen.
@72poopmonkey
Жыл бұрын
wth lmao hes just laying there MENACINGLY
@Azakadune
Жыл бұрын
Kinda wish it would actually happen, it would spice up the story a lot to see oryx without his old memories and how he acts in comparison to before.
@olcuqap1789
Жыл бұрын
Imo he would be a ally
@Theemptythroneistaken
Жыл бұрын
@Ölçü Qapı Not an ally nor an Enemy but rather a benefactor of mutual condemnation for the witness.
@olcuqap1789
Жыл бұрын
@@Theemptythroneistaken omg its melkor please dont kill meeeee
@Theemptythroneistaken
Жыл бұрын
@Ölçü Qapı Your death doesn't happen by my hands little one let's just say betrayal runs thick in your inner circle.
@ilucasz
Жыл бұрын
It would be nice for Oryx to get a Crow-like development. Specially when you think he also has a older sister that is a queen.
@DragonKnight90001
Жыл бұрын
…..honestly wish we could kill the necromancer and let the ghost revive Oryx and go “hey your part of the light now so….. your an enemy of the witness wanna team up?” Xivu would be f*ing p*ssed.
@austinwilson7373
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t want to start the encounter because I just wanted to let the ghost do what it wanted
@austinwilson7373
Жыл бұрын
I even brought touch of malice with me
@DragonKnight90001
Жыл бұрын
@@austinwilson7373 Nice.
@BistoNation
Жыл бұрын
For the longest time, I was convinced Oryx was on Enceladus based off of Cayde's message to Petra in Forsaken This though was a major plot bomb and my lfg were picking their jaws off the floor
@mathewchipman6895
Жыл бұрын
its so cool that the tank is still there from that D1 mission and the forest was always something I wanted to explore on titan so that's aweosome
@jehbon
Жыл бұрын
one of the collectables has Xivu saying that is pissed not that we killed the Taken king but that we left the throne abandoned, i thought that was pretty cool
@jesseritchie9282
Жыл бұрын
Which goes back to Toland also being pissed at us as well.
@nukenade4623
Жыл бұрын
one thing ive noticed NO ONE TOUCH ON. we know eris holds savathuns body, ikora holds ORYX now with the hidden. just pointing this out. this is the closest those 2 have come to being together in ages and we know SAVATHUNS GHOST IS LYING IN WAIT TO REZ HER as soon as she is revealed her ghost will come and try it. more than likely the same can happen to oryx. im expecting him to rise either come final shape as a boss or a future seasonal boss now. they wouldnt bring him back just for nostaligia
@ArgoDevilian
Жыл бұрын
its entirely possible that Oryx will return as a Lightbearer, same as Savathun. And in which case, he won't remember ANYTHING. That sets up a perfect (if weird) scenario in which we (or maybe Savathun) can convince him to join our side. Or, at least to fight against the Witness
@mayhem-2889
Жыл бұрын
@@ArgoDevilian who’s gonna tell him we murdered his son? 😳
@ArgoDevilian
Жыл бұрын
@@mayhem-2889 the son he doesnt remember? Just tell him his son was a dick
@StormASeven
Жыл бұрын
@mayhem-2889 let's just keep that to our selves
@JoMorem
Жыл бұрын
@@mayhem-2889 Crota, The lightbearer **Epic music plays** 🗿 I think that this is all Savathun plans because why they are trying to revive Oryx? And think about it Oryx's worm is missing if Savathun manage to get his worm and Immaru some how manage to revive Savathun, she can show to Oryx's his past like we did with her
@jyeturk7
Жыл бұрын
We found about 4 of the secrets. They are messages from Xivu to Savathun, Xivu to Oryx, Xivu about Oryx etc... She references her time as Xi Ru, the krill.
@rithvikmuthyalapati9754
Жыл бұрын
She even references her father the Osmium King and her mother
@darkshotgun209
Жыл бұрын
Also she's pissed at us for killing oryx and Savathun for her light shenanigans so that's bad like really really bad
@jyeturk7
Жыл бұрын
@@darkshotgun209 we have to remember that xivu doesn't know the truth yet, that the witness lied to savathun and they would have been guardians anyways. Some of the 1st guardians at that
@walker7753
Жыл бұрын
So if we do have to fight Xivu Arath even when she learns the truth, I'm curious on what weapon she would turn into. Would make sense if she was an exotic sword
@darkshotgun209
Жыл бұрын
@@jyeturk7 that's not relevant to what I was saying I simply said she pissed for what we and Savthun did nothing more to it I really don't have to remember it
@DarkCyberUK
Жыл бұрын
Looks like the Hive Gods will be Lightbearers by the time The Final Shape comes around
@WILLINGLYWILD
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know about xivu, they’re obviously setting up oryx though
@jpmountaingaming5681
Жыл бұрын
@@WILLINGLYWILD Makes sense. Good plot and he’s a fan favorite.
@DarthDragon007
Жыл бұрын
Well, Savathun already is one.
@soundwave4236
Жыл бұрын
if Oryx and Savathun both had their own expansions, Xivu needs one as well
@MoreKami
Жыл бұрын
Savathune said mercury, Io, and titan are in her care… and now we have titan back… also her lucent brood is there so i think she’s telling the truth that it was in her care, now that we know its not a lie does that mean mabey we get Io back next season and mercury after that??? And if titan has oryxs body (a great reason for savathune to take the planet) then why did she take the other 2… also interesting that the traveler has been to Io and mercury in the past so mabey there are some deeper secrets we can learn about the traveler leading up to the final shape, this could actually change everything!!
@moy9948
Жыл бұрын
With how Cayde is coming back temporarily in The Final Shape, what if the final battle includes every single ally and enemy we've encountered throughout D1 and D2. Ghaul coming back, the Fanatic somehow being in our side. Oryx, just like Savathun, could be a wildcard, either on our side if he forgets his past, or against us if he remembers.
@sunrock5352
Жыл бұрын
avenger 4
@EmmL1223
Жыл бұрын
I knew it! I had said to my old raid group that oryx is floating away versus just dying in place and will probably land on Saturn ( just happened to be titan)
@tyheeblair5693
Жыл бұрын
Can’t land on Saturn as it is a gas planet
@triggercraftgames1089
Жыл бұрын
I find it quite funny that there is a boss called j4w-s I guess it's a funny nod to Jaws
@literally_leo
Жыл бұрын
The gall of these lucent hive. At best, they were piecing oryx back wholly, with the final piece being summoning his worm. At worst they were attempting to put a corpse thing in his place. A mindless thrall in his shape
@reamoinmcdonachadh9519
Жыл бұрын
So, Savathun WAS speaking truth, the Taken King (his body, if not his mind) has returned!!
@skullknight4579
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, being revived with light powers is oryxes right, I’m assuming all 3 of the hive gods are potential chosen by the traveler but were led Astray by the witness, and he wouldn’t remember anything lol
@W1ngSMC
Жыл бұрын
Imagine reviving him then telling him the usual ghost bs we get in new light "You are a guardian..." so he joins us.
@WafflesAndSauce
Жыл бұрын
@@W1ngSMC and you just see a giant alien dude hanging on the edge of the tower wall
@AdeptKing
Жыл бұрын
That's scary. So the reason the Witness took Titan was to try and bring Oryx back(and because Ahsa was there). I wonder what was on the other planets that he took. I wonder if he's going to try and bring back the Ahamkara on Io.
@rithvikmuthyalapati9754
Жыл бұрын
Didn't the Witness take Titan because Ahsa the Leviathan was there?
@AdeptKing
Жыл бұрын
@@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 Actually yeah I think you're right. That was the main reason.
@erroroflife187
Жыл бұрын
I think the Witness also took titan because he don’t want the lucent brood to revive oryx with light like what they are trying to do now.
@sketrixx9019
Жыл бұрын
My friend and i made it to the final encounter and we were confused that there was a giant hand we thought it was a statue then after a couple more wipes he was like hey look it's oryx. I was surprised that we didn't notice his head we thought they were just rocks. We started making theories on how he got there.
@jordanlongley3499
Жыл бұрын
Oryx will mkst likely be apart of the story either the next major update or after because so far savathun has been correct about absolutely everything so far its actually scary
@naveenkv7175
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the taken king himself will be a major part of how we learn to 'take' assuming that is what the next subclass is about.
@duskbringer4583
Жыл бұрын
They tried to- OH SHIT.
@paragonflash8937
Жыл бұрын
it was crazy playing the dungeon and seeing oryx and hearing the taken king theme again. I literally had a huge "Oh Shit" moment.
@Lancersilva
Жыл бұрын
Now here me out. Let’s just throw the final encounter on purpose.
@austinwilson7373
Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I told my teammate
@Bulbranch
Жыл бұрын
4:54 I got chills when you say “his worm is missing?” That made me realize, what if Oryx’s Worm could be the one we see on Titan during Vanilla Destiny 2 and before Ahsa appearance this season. Oryx’s Worm is out there, somewhere… roaming around the oceans of Titan.
@garbaaj1071
Жыл бұрын
i'm currently extremely worried that ahsa is oryx's worm, and the thing we saw in the ocean back in the early days of d2 is still yet to be seen. especially if sloane is slowly becoming taken as her connection to ahsa strengthens. it struck me as really ofd that ahsa used the term Aiat
@insidiouscerberus6896
Жыл бұрын
Also, if you do the preservation mission on Mars with the sunken Pyramid, you'll also see a large ass worm god. I wonder if that's his worm and Savathun kept it imprisoned with Rhulk
@hellothere-dk4gg
Жыл бұрын
@@garbaaj1071 we saw the massive sea monster again in the background area in the dungeon, it's way bigger than ahsa so it isnt her
@erroroflife187
Жыл бұрын
@@insidiouscerberus6896 nah that is the mother worm xita, not oryx worm
@SinisterOL
Жыл бұрын
Also resurrection is something Oyrx goes against,he literally disowned one of his children for practicing necromancy
@emperorholocron8278
Жыл бұрын
DO IT OH MY GOD. BRING ORYX BACK PLEASE ❤️
@osiristextingstories2006
Жыл бұрын
Wait if his worms missing what if Atah isnt the Big Leviathan we saw back in the day rather thag was Oryxs worm and Atah was somewhere else during that time hiding
@kyle13th97
Жыл бұрын
Last i checked worms don’t have eye balls
@SavathunSussyImpostor
Жыл бұрын
@@kyle13th97 yes they do, they have three cute little eyes
@tarronmcleod4486
Жыл бұрын
It all makes sense! Oryx’s worm is still swimming around on titan! It’s the thing we saw swimming under and around the arcology was his worm! Im hinting towards we see his worm become a final boss for this season or some part?
@fuckinantipope5511
Жыл бұрын
I think you might be onto something. Because the thing we see swimming when we are in the Archology doesn't look like Ahsa at all. It's more shaped like a worm. So we potentially have two different creatures swimming in the methane oceans
@benstanfill363
Жыл бұрын
I freaked when I saw oryx. I did not expect to find him in this dungeon.
@gommyboi380
Жыл бұрын
Cant believe we actually got word from fenchurch today
@GamingStar1995
Жыл бұрын
Feels like Savathun/Oryx/Xivu will all turn against the witness eventually. We'll have 3 hive gods, a Cabal Empress, a Kell of Kells Mithrax and Eliksni Momma Eramis, an Awoken Queen, and what's left of the Vanguard. Seems like Avengers Endgame to mee. How will Oryx/Savathun come back to life? Savathun has her own ghost still out and about. As for Oryx, Finch might be a long shot but his knight is ded. He chooses not to rez him. but maybe he can rez another? Idk if ghosts are bound to a singular guardian but Finch is definitely alone.
@kyamra
Жыл бұрын
Oryx maybe but keep in mind we killed his children, savathun is "with" us though not necessarily allied though honestly I see her being a needed option eventually, and for xivu she's pretty much in with the witness though aramis ofmay eventually indirectly join
@idkwhatcoolnametouse8987
Жыл бұрын
Other Ghosts can resurrect other beings so long as their previous ward is permanently dead. From what I know, One example was Jaren Ward's Ghost becoming Shin Malphur's after the former's death to Dredgen Yor. That being said, Finch killed his Hive Guardian but he has the ability to revive him any time.
@GamingStar1995
Жыл бұрын
@@kyamra I feel that. but keep in mind that Savathun, Oryx, Xivu, and Eramis was under the influence of the Witness. Eramis was defeated and saw her truth. Savathun was defeated after being shown the truth about the hive. Oryx Was also defeated and partially turned into a gun. As much as Savathun/Oryx/Xivu "hated" each oher due to the sword logic, they all technically love each other as siblings. Savathun having a shrine dedicated to Oryx, and now Xivu. It won't take much for Xivu to find her revelation to turn against the witness as well.
@joshuamoore8044
Жыл бұрын
I have a theory, but it may be a stretch, so hear me out. oryx's body completes it's slow mitosis and is brought back as a hive guardian and joins the vanguard with some other hive making the hive apart of the group or we find oryx's worm that might want to put oryx's mind back together and resurrect him to continue what he started. Anyways those are my theories that I have
@NighttimeGlobe1887
Жыл бұрын
Idk what Immaru is up to but maybe they were trying to use a lucent ghost to revive him and feed him Savathuns Memories. But it's also scary to know Eir, The Keeper of Order is roaming the methane oceans. Could Xivu Arath be causing a small war on the surface keeping us distracted while her and a large force of Hive search the worm. There so many reasons so much lore to come about this season.
@fuckinantipope5511
Жыл бұрын
Wait, Eir is on Titan? Where did you read that in the lore? That would be epic to see one of the larger Worm Gods!
@erroroflife187
Жыл бұрын
If this is true, I want to see a Ahsa vs Eir cutscene lol
@kevinmai5125
Жыл бұрын
Kinda scary with the lucent hive trying to revive oryx because that means Savathun planned to do this. I don’t even wanna imagine taken light bearers running around
@JakeDriver
Жыл бұрын
Im just glad things came full circle with his body.
@casartherandom3010
Жыл бұрын
Will. That is quite the specific word to use there. I have a funny feeling that Xivu's will is going to be tested very soon. And that will decide if she truly embodies him or not.
@Gamur_Wenus
Жыл бұрын
i loved the maintanance vehicle in the oppening cutsceen. nice throw back to you driving it and leaving it there all those years ago
@Defecthead
Жыл бұрын
The irony of Oryx banishing his child (Nokris) for using necromancy, and them trying to revive him with it
@sheaffer117
Жыл бұрын
The whole dead but also still alive. God resting at the bottom of the ocean gives me massive Cthulhu vibes.
@drpotato830
Жыл бұрын
Whoever believed that Savathun says that 2 truth 2 lies are true are already tricked, yall forgot she is the god of what. All of she said was the truth apparently.
@kielyarger5283
Жыл бұрын
That was my thought too, the only lie was that she was lying. Or maybe there are hints of the truth in every lie she told.
@jackolantern147
Жыл бұрын
Somehow, in some way, the Taken king will return. There are now 3 ways to bring him back. 1-Lucent Hive resurection. 2-Conjuring him back with his aspect as he did with his sisters 3- The will of his entire race desiring him back defeating his desire to remain dead. Reviving him via the sword logic as read in the Red Keep Cryptolyph.
@michaelrivera7542
Жыл бұрын
This man never changes his class set up 💀
@Zoomygoony
Жыл бұрын
Amazing timing from bungie, making a season about the deep and having you go down in the deep in a submersible. Now just play the dungeon as a Titan and you pretty much have it all
@thedeathofaman
Жыл бұрын
The atmosphere, the lore, the mechanics of this place are amazing. The health pools are brutal. Cant wait to go back for another run though!
@czarama_irl
Жыл бұрын
savathun said the taken king would rise again, not oryx would rise again. rise does not necessarily mean rise from the dead, but it could mean the title has been given to another worthy of it. i have a feeling there will be another taken king
@farismallah5740
Жыл бұрын
Well uhh seeing as xivu is equally devastated about the taken king’s throne not being filled as she is about her brothers death, she could have kelgorath try to shimmy into there, also interesting that he’s back this season and taken instead of just a meme hive again
@acethepowerscaler7671
Жыл бұрын
Imagen waking up to your co-workers telling you this, then realising savathun outplayed the witness 4 times now.
@rm8874
Жыл бұрын
Oryx: "WTF?! Resurrected by the light?! But the Sword Logic!" Nokris: "Hi dad..... wasnt me this time I swear." Man if Oryx gets revived by the light he is going to have the mother of all existential crisis's. By the sword logic the light was the sword that cut him down meaning he was the weakness that the sword logic is meant to purge from existence, yet he was resurrected by the very thing that cut him down returning the "weakness" that Oryx's own doctrine demand be eradicated. Because of the sword logic and the Witness he: 1. Murdered his family time and time again. 2. Changed from female to male(granted some animals actually do this so it could be a lot less significant than we humans would assume). 3. Disowned his own children for doing the very thing that is responsible for his resurrection. 4. Condemned his race and all his offspring to eternal suffering and a meaningless existence. 5. Stripped friend and foe alike of their very identity to turn them into obedient pawns, he would "Take" them. Now he has the witness on one side who commands the darkness and the light which he spent his entire existence trying to snuff out on the other side but it is now directly linked to his very existence. Will he be friend or foe? He is not the Hive god of trickery, deceit is not his forte, doesnt mean we can trust him, just that its not his style.
@jacobgeist6580
Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of oryx being resurrected but only being somethibg like a strike boss just to show how much more powerful weve become since the taken king expansion
@awesomearchivist1705
Жыл бұрын
As a dungeon player whos never done a raid completely this dungeon was the closest to being a raid without you needing six people and I love that. Plus just the asthetic alone, I think ill have to reshuffle my favorite asthetic dungeon list 1.Spire of the watcher 2.Ghosts of the deep 3.Prophecy 4.Grasp of advarce 5.Duality 6. Shattered throne 7. Pit of heresy I really like desert, ocean, jungle and pirate asthetics and now I have a dungeon for each one except for jungle. Who knows maybe we get a jungle dungeon in final shape.
@marcelrosales576
Жыл бұрын
Well at least we know that Oryx's worm is still alive as when titan was still a destination you could see it swimming around deep down in the archology
@LeekyKale
Жыл бұрын
7:20 “the taken king will rise again” is a lie, the witness brought back mars and we did move worlds in the RoN raid
@ArgoDevilian
Жыл бұрын
Did the worlds themselves actually move, I thought they were just projections or whatever Because if not, that's the equivalent to saying "I moved this Plastic, Toy Planet. I moved a world"
@LeekyKale
Жыл бұрын
@@ArgoDevilian I think we did, because I’m pretty sure that’s how we got titan back, why would the witness bring back titan?
@drifter937
Жыл бұрын
So after the first encounter, the long drop you take with the spinning blades. After jumping through the fence keep going forward and go up. The second secret message is in that area
@thenamestakenalready6890
Жыл бұрын
a little detail some might have missed, right before the first water section if you look throughthe right window you can see a giant creature in the background slowly move along the waters
@imboredsonowimdirt7049
Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see “gotd kwtd 4clears must have the wanderer need mic”
@ControlKey
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit dude, I just realized that if we secure Oryx’s body, meaning we’d have both Savathun’s body + Immaru, we could possibly revive Oyx as an Ally against the witness as long as Savathun is too
@jamieheisel2759
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they're bringing him back a different way than just giving us the raid
@fuckinantipope5511
Жыл бұрын
While I am not sure if Oryx will come back and be on our side like many speculate here, it would be epic if Oryx reclaims his Dreadnought, using it to devastate some Pyramid Ships
@kraygarde.7325
Жыл бұрын
can i just say, i love that in the first cutscene, the tank is still there from the red war campaign
@6789Halo
Жыл бұрын
Crazy thing is one of collectibles has Xivu saying that his killers didn't claim the title of Taken King, so would that mean us as guardians could have potentially controlled the Taken in some way?
@jordanmerrifield7817
Жыл бұрын
Toland also has said something similar before
@carlosflores4179
Жыл бұрын
That's why cayde 6 has taken eyes. We'll be able to take
@jettrioficial8317
Жыл бұрын
The witch queen said "the power of take will be yours" so maybe by studying oryx body we will get a taken sub-class
@colorknight736
Жыл бұрын
“Two Truths, Two Lies” Sounds to me like most of Savathüns words are “More True and Less Lies…🧐
@lilvampire7439
Жыл бұрын
We should’ve just let them do it. It would’ve been cool, plus maybe he can be a friend : )
@darkvex7974
Жыл бұрын
Yes i want him back
@YungTigris
Жыл бұрын
personally, I think if all 3 siblings became “Lucent” so to speak xivu would be a titan Sava would be a warlock and oryx would be a hunter. I think that would be cool
@Arkaeus04
Жыл бұрын
Great now Oryx is basically Godwyn post night of black knives also we know where his soul is. Hint it’s in the ToM
@kronk4453
Жыл бұрын
cayde and oryx coming back, cant wait for the Taken king 2
@theultimatereversecard524
Жыл бұрын
oryx as a prime soul would be the perfect way to make ultrakill a thing in d2
@goodwillcashier5139
Жыл бұрын
Think about it, the power to move worlds is already ours as seen in the Root of Nightmares raid in the 3rd encounter. We got Mars back from the witness, or it was in the care of Savathún. It is definitely possible that Oryx has the potential to rise again
@_Chaosnight_
Жыл бұрын
The Lucent Hive probably had to remove Oryx's worm or whatever was left of it to make him a lightbearer because that was the requirement for Savathun aswell besides dying ofcours What happened to it tho or where they brought it is another question entirely Also remember the old vanilla D2 theories about the worm on Titan, it was already speculated that Oryx's corpse was on the planed and his worm is now living in its Ocean (That theory is likely wrong now because of Ahsa probably being that worm but it would now make alot of sense)
@blackyonbi
Жыл бұрын
Didn't Oryx had another son that was a necromancer but was casted away due to his methods? I do believe his name was "Nokris" , unsure if we really killed him during that strike on Mars. Makes me wonder if instead of Oryx coming back, Crota is the one to come back as a lucent hive and become " the new taken king". So many possibilities.
@Cumbernumb
Жыл бұрын
Don’t know if anyone read the lore tabs for the dungeon weapons and armor but wondering if anyone knows what NEV might be referring to. They use acronyms in the lore tab such as TKO (Taken King Oryx) WQS (Witch Queen Savathun) COS (Crown of Sorrow) but can’t seem to figure out what NEV stands for. Fenchurch seems to be analysing Oryxs corpse and does comparison tests with Savathuns corpse as well as finding similarities to the crown of sorrow in terms of certain similarities. He then states how he will begin comparison tests with NEV and Oryxs corpse. But I just want to say. Oryx may be dead but his body is confirmed to still be active, just without a mind and partial fragments of consciousness and memories of oryx have been found scattered away from his corpse. And his corpse is actually continually growing in size, he is actually larger here then he was when we fought him last. Fenchurch compared this to Savathuns corpse which didn’t grow and hypothesised it was due to the light and not having had a worm. Finally prepare to get nervous and really shocked because it’s mentioned in the lore tab that no corpse of a worm was found near Oryx and it’s status is unknown…we r fucked
@connorh2215
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps it’s neomuna veil? A bit of a stretch but it would make some sense
@ZomgLolPants
Жыл бұрын
Good luck raising him we turned his soul into a scout rifle
@obnoxiouskami8692
Жыл бұрын
Ahsa is Oryx's worm! That's what I think.
@kiwee4577
Жыл бұрын
i forgot how fookin big oryx is
@darthmorgoththesecond9990
Жыл бұрын
The Brood should of Guard it Well
@jamieheisel2759
Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I knew he would return
@ferpineda5022
Жыл бұрын
Drifter will betray us and become the taken king
@avantelove6826
Жыл бұрын
What I don’t understand is why THE LUCENT HIVE savathuns brood would choose to revive a ghost less god of a side they no longer follow/worship over the god who’s body is just missing but has a ghost and literally aided in the process of rebirth for her brood
@XxDeathxX509
Жыл бұрын
They’re in desperate need of a leader. And keep in mind when oryx was defeated his brood had to choose either savathun or xivu to worship. In other words, some of savathun’s brood use to be oryx’s. It’s not far fetched that his old brood just wants their original leader back now that savathun is also dead
@soundwave4236
Жыл бұрын
The Books of Sorrow mention that Oryx still cared for his sisters, so The Lucent Brood were probably aware of this even though they are committing heresy on Oryx's body
@AveryHorton116
Жыл бұрын
Would have loved a remix of regicide for the final boss fight… such a missed opportunity
@Livan-yuruikami
Жыл бұрын
Bungie never disappoint us witht he hive lore
@cardyceps7728
Жыл бұрын
Wait, are both hive god bodies gathered together? What if this is some kind of a trick from Savathun. Imagine we kill Arat, put all 3 bodies together & then a bunch of ghosts come & resurrect all 3? Or lets say that Immaru secretly has Savathun’s finger or right booty cheek or other crap & uses it to rez Savathun so that she could gypsy the hell out of her confinement with her siblings’ corpses?
@ethanbell7283
Жыл бұрын
So when i was playing the first encounter i looked up and you can see a bunch of hive ships flying in all directions like they are when you do the humongous puzzle in the taken king raid maybe there's a way to get up there and use them to get to secret cheat or something. Idk just found it odd they just randomly put them up there i thought at some point we would've made it to that location and it would be jumping puzzle with the appearing and dissappearing ships but never made to that spot.
@PixelleHearts
Жыл бұрын
"The Taken King will rise again..." Now were expecting it to be a reference to the reprised raid... but hmm I dunno. Well at least we blew it out of the water... literally
@slain1930
Жыл бұрын
its so satisfiying when theories are fr ive thought oryx was on titan for bricks
@Time4GamesNow
Жыл бұрын
SPOILER & SPECULATION - With the Vanguard now safeguarding remains of both Savathun and Oryx AND Xivu missing Oryx (Memories) I think Oryx and Savathun will be resurrected and would fight both The Witness and Us (and would probably die again). Their worm is with The Witness. Why would they fight The Witness? Because Savathun knows they were mislead into the deep. Why would they fight Us? Because we failed to protect The Traveler from The Witness. Why would they die? We've already (or would have by the time) defeated The Hive siblings and The Witness being too powerful can also slay them easily.
@ninety_ldn
Жыл бұрын
By the time the witness fight comes around, the majority of Hive/Taken along with Cabal and Fallen will be fighting alongside us.
@Burgerzaza
Жыл бұрын
Im p sure oryx'a soul iust got dispersed over the ascendant plane, and he still has a throne world, we didnt kill him in it. So he's probably biding his time, waiting for something. He, like most of the hive gods could literally come back at any time. Id really enjoy a raid called like 'family reunion' or something where the hive as a hail mary summon back everyone who's died from their throneworlds and we'd have Oryx, Savathun, Nocris, Hashladun, and im sure Xivu would show up for the party, and any kids xivu and savathun have I wanna see the lucent bring back crota, since hes dead dead and left a major impact on d1 lore.
@lordferbus2970
Жыл бұрын
Except we did kill him in his throneworld It was merged with his ship Which is how he grew big
@NickJohnson-gw2yq
Жыл бұрын
Okay, what if we become the taken king by using oryx’s corpse? And that is how we gain the power to move worlds
@unholypepe
Жыл бұрын
i don't care if he's got a different name i don't care if he's be turned into a lucent hive GODDAMMIT NOKRIS WHY WON'T YOU STAY DEAD!
@liamoliver5848
Жыл бұрын
I can't even imagine how powerful a Lightbearer Oryx would be. and if he managed to get his memories back. We'd all be doomed, we'd all die in an instant if he didn't immediately kill himself due to his hate of necromancy.
@poison_ivy1000
Жыл бұрын
Titan is Saturn’s moon. We fought Oryx there. He drifts away after we kill him in King’s Fall. So he drifted onto Titan. (Wishful theory)
@canadianinsomnia412
Жыл бұрын
Id like to point out something in the first encounter no ones talking about.. or that i have seen. There are at least 3 computer terminals that are on the map. I can activate 2 and it seems there is an order to them to be activated. ones just down from the flag by a totem, another is at the room on the middle leftish and the last i've found is under the bridge at the south end of the map just right from middle. The order ive given gives the first two to activate. I have yet to find any other terminals in that area at all.
@Ozilus21
Жыл бұрын
Best Dungeon and it's not even close !!!
@STORYTXLLXR
Жыл бұрын
What if Oryx was an enemy of the Witness?
@omarririttenberg6038
Жыл бұрын
Or at least he tried to be but he needed a purpose and that's why he's not a disciple
@Oblivion___
Жыл бұрын
@Tyler No, nowhere is this suggested. And all of Oryx's encounters with the Deep are left open as to whether he was communicating with Witness or Winnower.
@kielyarger5283
Жыл бұрын
@@tyler7059 And so was Savathun, that didn't stop her from betraying the Witness.
@XxDeathxX509
Жыл бұрын
@Tyler nah, it was never stated they were disciples. They were meant to be kept on a leash, controlled by the witness through the worm gods. Oryx broke the leash and their control when he challenged aka the worm of secrets and killed him for whatever knowledge he hid. When oryx did as such he became his own agent, the only connection to the darkness was the newfound power of taking and the sword logic, which he empowered and perfected on his own
@STORYTXLLXR
Жыл бұрын
@ everyone this is the discussion we need. The tablets of Ruin??? But the Witness is all about Salvation??? Oryx and the sword logic was NOT what the witness wanted in my opinion. The Sword Logic is a vital instrument to the universe. It’s a fundamental answer to “is it okay to have a different option?” … oryx was correct. Savathun was right. Xivu is cray cray… but even so….
@carla.n.5078
Жыл бұрын
The fact that Oryx might rise again, and with the light perhaps is scary as it gets.
@ilucasz
Жыл бұрын
So that being from Vanilla Destiny 2 really was Oryx's worm...
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