"So you're calling me stupid" "Essentially yeah" I lost.
@bigbeanboys3865
4 жыл бұрын
Sovspot Steve said I ain’t pulling punches
@dubsteak
4 жыл бұрын
"You're giving me one thing on pubmed" ... against her acknowledged ignorance yeah that's enough ...
@PvMstevo
4 жыл бұрын
This kinda shit really pisses me off and it seems like everyone in my life does this. They just say shit that they know nothing about. Why even say it? And dont get offended when I fact check you and tell you that you're an idiot
@qwerty1233787
4 жыл бұрын
@@PvMstevo it's rude to call someone stupid, unless they're being fucking stupid.
@loukmouk1652
4 жыл бұрын
36:00 btw
@adambernon6930
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being sooo far left that Destiny is Alt-Right.
@KommentarSpaltenKrieger
4 жыл бұрын
Well, I can only talk from a point of experience. While any given pundit can be as moderate as he wants, the message they push will get decontextualised and appropriated by more extreme audiences. You simply cannot have a moderate and civil discourse on the internet. It is all too polarising. As an example: Destiny could have a 5 hours stream in which he lays out the pros and cons of capitalism en detail and where he even lands on the more capitalist side of things. However, someone could clip all the anti-capitalist arguments out of the stream, put them in a video and name the video "Destiny DESTROYS Capitalism with BRUTISH LOGICAL BRAIN POWER". This is how this platform works. The video with the scandalising title will probably yield 10 times more views than the long-format nuanced stream. Don't take my word for it, since KZitem counteracts this tendency by its own tendency to push longer videos which lead to an over-all longer watch time on the platform, but both extremes exists and if we speak about raw view counts only, the aforementioned beats the latter one. As a matter of fact, I think this video sort of falls into this category, even though it is not clipped or anything. Point reinforced, I guess.
@KommentarSpaltenKrieger
4 жыл бұрын
@@creekochee3592 ok nice
@blitz8425
4 жыл бұрын
I'm far left, these people, Lady especially, are just dumb, and more interested in the Identity politics than the substance of the discussion. Destiny is usually cringey when he talks about leftist economics, but his social stuff is (usually) pretty spot on tbh.
@TheRumpelstinskin
4 жыл бұрын
@@blitz8425 Agreed. Destiny, like every centrist, is left on social issues (mostly issues that don't threaten the status quo) and right wing in economics.
@tjcofer7517
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRumpelstinskin this is not true. There are lots of bible thumping anti-lgbt union workers who are left wing on economics and right wing on social issues on average.
@1997ontherun
4 жыл бұрын
I never got taught about the difference in lung capacity between men and women so therefore it does not exist
@ThreeNinjaDucks
4 жыл бұрын
Kane K I’ve never thoughts of you so you don’t exist
@solarblitz4524
4 жыл бұрын
@@ThreeNinjaDucks that'll show em 😎
@robosoldier11
4 жыл бұрын
Bygon Good KZitem Channel on a side note I think there is actually a condition where you believe everything except you is fake. Think it’s called solipsism.
@spiritualviking8094
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, this is the way leftist degenerated people think on alot of things. And their opinion is the correct one, our generation has raised a bunch of narcisissts
Destiny > these freaks - and i dont agree with most of his views
@griggerykimothy4865
4 жыл бұрын
teach me how to do that
@giorgioIP
3 жыл бұрын
Teach us
@griggerykimothy4865
3 жыл бұрын
@@quintenpena693 ᵀʰᵃⁿᵏ ʸᵒᵘ
@MrKawasakiii
4 жыл бұрын
LOL Destiny didnt even have to speak in the first 5 minutes of being on the podcast to prove someone wrong
@christopherr6284
4 жыл бұрын
Destiny performed 10% better than anybody else in this debate.
@cerealru1069
4 жыл бұрын
Only 10%? Give him more credit lol.
@kameronrichardson2266
4 жыл бұрын
@@cerealru1069 i think its a reference to one of the others statements
@pierces7076
4 жыл бұрын
69%
@adamboyle3331
4 жыл бұрын
We all know if the USA men’s basketball team played the women’s team it would be around 100-90 final score, give or take a few buckets. Seriously though .... what if LeBron James took on a WNBA team on his own? I would be interested in the betting odds
@Draigon18
4 жыл бұрын
@@adamboyle3331 u really dont know basketball. 100-90? try 130-70. lebron 1v5 wnba?? bets would just be on how badly lebron will lose lol. was this a troll?? cuz u cant really be this dumb.
@eben7248
3 жыл бұрын
“So your calling me stupid” “Essentially, yeah...” “Oh, ok-“ “...but more than that” Lol he’s not putting up with that manipulative guilt trip shit.
@redcube9629
Жыл бұрын
Should've called that out explicitly.
@lotrcdefender
3 жыл бұрын
Wants to talk to destiny Gets the chance to talk to destiny Becomes an instant victim
@kjk607
3 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@bigtimeepic982
3 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing fse “your fanbases are gonna attack me” “im gonna break down” “i have PTSD” he was clout chasing
@Que5oFre5co
3 жыл бұрын
Literally melting down for the entire conversation with face in palms. What a fucking weak individual. Find something else to do with your fucking time
@Gogofam123
2 жыл бұрын
Manipulative bully. World in a sheepskin. Oldest trick in the book.
@LeadAntagonist
Жыл бұрын
Was already shaking, was already scared, already suffering from PTSD all from a man she called out after only hearing about him for a few months. Legit just wanted to make claims about a person, while being insulated from that persons response.
@tdogg1515
4 жыл бұрын
Destiny installs fear into his enemies
@peterkirk8510
4 жыл бұрын
In this debate
@andrewcowan6688
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's almost like he'll send his audience to harrass them
@seto007
4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewcowan6688 >Says stupid shit >Gets called out on stupid shit >SurprisedPikachu.jpg
@jeremias-serus
4 жыл бұрын
Theo Dixon Tonkasaw and Andy Warski and the rest of the retard squad on the killstream still quiver at the thought of destiny, his name is even blocked LULW
@jeremias-serus
4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Cowan Did you watch any of this or any video of destiny’s at all? He literally explicitly says that he not only does not condone harassing people he debates, but he also actively removes and blocks those that he finds doing that.
@Jasonsmith-sr1ke
4 жыл бұрын
A 10% difference is huge in athletics.
@Immortality44
4 жыл бұрын
Theres no way it's as small as 10%
@Jasonsmith-sr1ke
4 жыл бұрын
Immortality true. But i’m just saying that an 11 sec dash and a 10 sec dash are much different.
@xbihamar
4 жыл бұрын
Immortality couldn’t find the study or anything verifying that number
@megafanflash
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. That number doesn't make sense unless you cherry-pick the specific type or section of sport. For example, a large part of sports are the types where you score points and either win or lose. Wrestling, football, tennis etc (The most popular sports) have no way to measure % difference in skill based on results.
@manboob5000
4 жыл бұрын
@@megafanflash you can absolutely measure differences in skill based on results and it's primarily what a scout is supposed to do. This is why things like sabermetrics were created.
@pg1044
4 жыл бұрын
"First of all I never called you a liar, I called you stupid" - The dry delivery just does it for me
@Derploop
4 жыл бұрын
Shout out to my dude Ahrelevant or whatever his name is losing his shit in the top left every time Destiny points out how bad their reasoning is.
@dudefromcav3993
3 жыл бұрын
" Ehe, Listen, listen. Do we- do we want Destiny on this? (Nervous laugh) "
@HDitzzDH
3 жыл бұрын
*Destiny joins* "Hey Destiny how's it going? :)" (dies inside)
@TheWalkthroughGuy45
4 жыл бұрын
I am not a big fan of Destiny, but listening to everyone else made my head hurt.
@moealfaleh5606
4 жыл бұрын
Right. Not a super fan of his, but he eviscerated these people, and completely turned their own arguments on themselves.
@kookofo
4 жыл бұрын
@@AngstycAT77 I feel bad for trans people that cant pass but it's also grating to my ears. I know I'm a shitty person for it but if you can't at least almost pass I'm going to have a hard time not feeling weird around you.
@kookofo
4 жыл бұрын
@@moealfaleh5606 it's fun to be on destiny's side and it's also fun to shit on destiny, I like that about him.
@bobross4616
4 жыл бұрын
@Donald Trump is a Ghetto trick what?
@MaLva500
4 жыл бұрын
@Donald Trump is a Ghetto trick Imagine unironically linking Conservatives and wig Nats together. That's like calling Destiny a communist for being left of center.
@Godzillaaaaa11
4 жыл бұрын
"destiny cuts people off " Proceeds to cut destiny off all through the call lulw
@MyEpicAnime
4 жыл бұрын
@rgwg sdgfsdfg We are all hypocrites though. That's just a fact of life
@mooksschmooks
4 жыл бұрын
that really really irritates me.
@Godzillaaaaa11
4 жыл бұрын
@@mooksschmooks it really irritates me that you're a hypocrite you fucking hypocrite
@mooksschmooks
4 жыл бұрын
@@Godzillaaaaa11 and how exactly am i a hypocrite?
@generalkayoss7347
4 жыл бұрын
I loled so hard. Claiming that's something conservatives do, yet all we see is mentally ill liberals attempting to shout people down and shut down speech in the streets with their loudspeakers and noise makers. lmfao
@Zombehnation1001
4 жыл бұрын
Just when we thought he was out, they pulled him back in
@citus333
4 жыл бұрын
Too Trueeeee. Also they did godfather 3 dirty. People only say it was a bad movie because it was godfather 3.
@todorkerev1707
4 жыл бұрын
Is it true Michael ? No! YOU FUCKING SCEFOOZA
@brendantornabene5723
4 жыл бұрын
Just want him to go back to debating Fuentes’s, the lack of a spine from these dipshits is straight fucking cringe.
@mrfrenglitch3278
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, talking sh*t behind Destiny's back but once he shows up everyone starts shaking up.
@TraumaGarden
4 жыл бұрын
what a fucking chad
@LegalizeTheNuclearBomb
4 жыл бұрын
MY NERVES ARE SHOT
@assarefternamn5704
4 жыл бұрын
1
@notrealy180217
4 жыл бұрын
The trans person on the top says that they feel like a teenage girl hormonally. The other members of this stream are letting this one person run the show and create constant gossip because, as they even ADMITTED, they feel like a TEENAGE GIRL and the other trans person on the bottom is just as retarded. Living in a belief system that's somehow more self serving and pathetic than Christianity.
@confounded_feline
4 жыл бұрын
Everyone starts literally shaking
@theawakechristian6576
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao “cis white male” It’s like a parody of a wokescold.
@bonelessthincrust
4 жыл бұрын
I miss when "cis white male" was just "guy"
@endtimessupportgroup5685
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what that is kzitem.info/news/bejne/sYKl32WnraBng6w
@pru666
3 жыл бұрын
Society changes. Keep up cis white men.
@bonelessthincrust
3 жыл бұрын
@@pru666 it really doesn't tbh
@juanfelipe8484
3 жыл бұрын
Lol I’m cringing at cis white male
@Ostnizdasht206
3 жыл бұрын
"Why wasn't I taught about the lung sizes between men and women, huh Destiny?" What a dumb question..
@lucasblasel1
4 жыл бұрын
"Give me that example" *gives 3* "bUt ThAtS cHeRrY pIcKiNg"
@Molten-Throne
3 жыл бұрын
Nice meme but this is similar with a racist sending me one example of a black dude killing someone. It’s cherry picking. Usually people want data when they say give me an example. Now data on trans issues doesn’t really exist so we have to cherry-pick, which you can argue. But it’s still cherry picking.
@lucasblasel1
3 жыл бұрын
@@Molten-Throne I don't really know what to answer. I don't remember exactly what the argument was but it was something with trans women in sports. The problem I have with this person in the video is that you can never argue against her point without being branded as transphobic. The points destiny mentioned were reasonable and well explained but instead of trying to understand where he's coming from she goes in defence modes and acts like a victim.
@billgentry12
Жыл бұрын
@@Molten-ThroneI know this is 2 years too late, but racists cherry picking is completely different because black people make up ~12.6% of the American population. That’s a huge pool to cherry pick from. Trans people are like .05% of the American population. Maybe 5-10% of trans people compete in sports. So if multiple world records get broken by trans-women, that might be worth a look. Are cis-women breaking multiple world records at the same time? I wish it wasn’t deemed transphobic to converse about this topic
@Mike-ve6kg
4 жыл бұрын
A fat person asks how they do not have the same physical capacity of a professional athlete. I like that.
@Iceican
4 жыл бұрын
@Adam proceeds to itch lady balls
@marcomartinezcolmenares1551
4 жыл бұрын
Can you beheave like a rational person?
@letsroll2463
4 жыл бұрын
Also fat man with a low level medical job who claims to know everything about trans people even though its way out of their scope of understanding, I'm in the military and they get bare minimum education compared to real nurse, even less of an actual nurse. You'd be lucky if you got a paramedic job with that military education.
@whitehorsedown6499
4 жыл бұрын
Lady Balls sounds like a great Whitesnake song.
@joncolumbino744
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Dato You’re using the exact same logic and LadyRayne when he said something like, “how do you know anything about trans people? I am the trans person, so I know more than you.” Whether they’re is an athlete or not relevant. They are talking about data. Anyone who liked that comment is engaging in the same identity politics, except now it’s no longer faulty reasoning because it’s something you agree with.
@TNTSID
4 жыл бұрын
This shit got good af once destiny stopped trying to be nice lol
@devilmayclarify666
4 жыл бұрын
When in the video is this?
@RidDik417
4 жыл бұрын
@@devilmayclarify666 36:00
@Cardioligist
7 ай бұрын
Im glad he was nice at the beginning. Gives him solid ground to stand on, he lets them be assholes first its pretty smart
@judgedbytime
4 жыл бұрын
They hate him because they don't understand him. Ironic?
@jessecote3591
3 жыл бұрын
“I would love to see you have a conversation with Richard Wolf.” Oh no no no
@jackallenproductions
3 жыл бұрын
Oh no- Oh no- Oh no no no Song cuts off at the end of a 6 second tick-tock.
@CaneSugarHD
4 жыл бұрын
"Literally shaking rn"
@LAKD
4 жыл бұрын
When you know you're about to get destroyed by logic and facts
@chasmurphy1227
4 жыл бұрын
@Negativland yes, fascinating
@MouthDrops
4 жыл бұрын
25:49 yikes, got hella triggered and had to bring race into the Convo
@melonmazing515
4 жыл бұрын
Pisses me off that white boy is ok but anything related to colored people isn't
@narbonne7637
4 жыл бұрын
"u white cis" says a white person
@grxbba
4 жыл бұрын
I got called a white left by a white right🤣 and I’m more right then left but I’m still middle ground
@latheredtrillionaire5701
4 жыл бұрын
@@melonmazing515 Because you're a zoomer brainlet.
@euronico7949
4 жыл бұрын
Nimble Nickel ???
@Yiazmats
4 жыл бұрын
literally shaking
@kaleb5265
4 жыл бұрын
@Dr Boom LMAO
@drangc0bex119
4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I can't tell if Destiny is smart or if he just got the power to attract the smoothest brained people into his aura.
@ScarFearz
4 жыл бұрын
Destiny is somewhat educated and has a decent bit of common sense. I barely got to know him in the past few days, so I can't say much, but for as much as I've seen... People on the internet are mostly retarded and common sense is so rare that Destiny looks like a fucking genius out there.
@Gogofam123
2 жыл бұрын
Most of the people or twich are smooth brain dummy’s. destiny is not a genius but he’s fairly informed person with a logical brain. That’s why it appears that way . These particular individuals were extremely uninformed arrogant and cowardly. Even the counter arguments they had were just borderline racist insults like CIA white male , like wtf that has to do with the topic? Or since when it’s a crime to be a white cis male . I swear they are as much of oppressive as they are oppressed. Pathetic
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor
2 жыл бұрын
Little column A little column B
@silversalmon9909
11 ай бұрын
I think its more attracting smooth brained people, just on the basis of how he operates. He hates misinformation, bad reasoning, and false logic, and cant help himself but call someone out when they demonstrate this. You can imagine most people engaging in misinformation, bad reasoning, or false logic are pretty smooth brained, so thats who he calls out and gets into conflict with most.
@jsmith434w
10 ай бұрын
he made an argument that incest isn't necessarily bad. so i think you have to be very intelligent to be able to entertain ideas that you don't necessarily agree with and be open to being wrong about things things hold most precious. not a fan of his though, so i dont know that he's like that about the topics that are important to him. but as the guy above me said, his reasoning is solid from what ive seen
@hogan7254
4 жыл бұрын
I swear buddy in the top left is having a whole conversation by himself
@ericsmith116
4 жыл бұрын
what was going on there? did they mute the guy or something?
@zoelagoblina3138
4 жыл бұрын
schizophrenic monkaW
@memeaddict4202
4 жыл бұрын
@@ericsmith116 I guess he's commenting on the debate to his own seperate audience
@TCt83067695
4 жыл бұрын
I thought he was having a private chat with the dude in red. They seem to be laughing or making gestures at the exact same time
@twot2224
4 жыл бұрын
@@TCt83067695 I think they were just listening in and reacting to things at the same time. Like when Destiny called her stupid.
@homelessengineer5498
4 жыл бұрын
"We can't talk about changing the rules in sports because we would be admitting that trans women have an advantage and that's transphobic" Kill me.
@Wriste13
4 жыл бұрын
Funny how Lady was afraid Destiny's buddies in the call would come in and gang up on her, but she had no problem with others on her side jumping in.
@dozyproductionss
4 жыл бұрын
him
@guillehummel3228
4 жыл бұрын
@@dozyproductionss Ok she can be a stupid piece of shit but still no need to misgender her.
@sillylittlesheepjax6009
4 жыл бұрын
there is a reason why trans ppl join antifa at mass
@robc9655
4 жыл бұрын
@@mineytube2475 correct
@alexmeyer8133
4 жыл бұрын
That's the left for ya
@marcomeme4875
4 жыл бұрын
Ahrelevant in the cut just watching everyone trip over their own words
@icoachi97
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I've heared this argument so often, that destiny speaks so fast on purpose that people can't follow. English is my second language and I really rarely don't understand him, even if it's fast sometimes it's really clear imo.
@99boardwalk
3 жыл бұрын
X2
@Sampsonoff
4 жыл бұрын
‘Most weight lifters have several world records in their career’ 42:26 Lol wut?
@kk8490
4 жыл бұрын
F
@1SGCarter
4 жыл бұрын
I lift for 8 years and a world record is as far away like I’m waking up as a billionaire tomorrow. 😂 lol
@thulyblu5486
4 жыл бұрын
I mean that would only be feasible if there were many many different kinds of weight lifting competitions. If there are 100.000 different records that could be broken and only 50.000 weightlifters, then each could have 2 on average. But with weight lifting, are there really so many categories? I mean... it's just... lifting fricking weights... how many ways could there possibly be?
@samuelc.7212
4 жыл бұрын
@@thulyblu5486 there are several different federations amd weightclasses however there are vastly more lifters than records per federation
@TorreBorre3000
4 жыл бұрын
Fat people love to talk about training.
@vetber19
4 жыл бұрын
"When I see the nazi symbol, I think nazisism" Destiny died
@wren4077
4 жыл бұрын
should someone who doesn't know that there is an actual word 'Nazism' to describe their ideology, and instead adds an 'sism' to the word, calling it naziSISM, be talking about the subject?
@snowconeinthedoublecup
4 жыл бұрын
A lot of trans people are embarrassed to talk about it because of people like lady
@_anshin_anshin
4 жыл бұрын
Being a Genderweeb is embarrassing in and of itself...
@joncolumbino744
4 жыл бұрын
I will do the fortnite dance on u yea, there are a lot of ignorant people that will find any reason to make fun of somebody. Really makes it hard on trans people who have to deal with unjustified negative social pressure.
@crispysk8er77
4 жыл бұрын
Maby they shoulda stayed their gender
@woffe8094
4 жыл бұрын
No way that's a woman.
@mayman4255
4 жыл бұрын
@@woffe8094 I think she's in mid transition,she really needs some long fuckin hair or a wig tho
@alepho4089
4 жыл бұрын
This video remains one of my favourite debates ever uploaded on this site. It perfectly highlights so much of what people find so repulsive about leftwing spaces. If you want to be a decent human, never be like these people. Good job Destiny.
@TheMrVengeance
4 жыл бұрын
Except that this is a really bad example of "leftwing spaces", Destiny is leftwing too. Irrational nonsense like Lady is saying would get called out in most leftie spaces. This is just some group call of friends (I assume) talking shit to each other labelling itself "a podcast". It's not a relevant comparison to anything.
@ChiefBinChicken
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrVengeance it is a bad example of leftwing groups, but unfortunately it is what a lot of people see lefties as
@THEGREENHELIUM
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChiefBinChicken it’s because this is who a majority of them are. Sure there are a few reasonable people but this is who a majority are. They cannot debate because as soon as they get tested on their ideas they cry and back off and then call you a (XYZ)-phobic or a Nazi. It’s insane
@MrChaos-db9ox
3 жыл бұрын
This is a exact depiction of the left literally before Destiny got on the stream they were saying people on the right do nothing but scream but as soon as they are faced with logic and reason they start screaming cognitive dissonance in the form of a political party lmao
@101yak
4 жыл бұрын
"I was never taught anything about it during my time as a navy medical person", "but I know more about this than you because of my time as a navy medical person" Rip....
@webbraham2768
3 жыл бұрын
The Vivian person really likes the word “fucking”. I don’t think they went through a single sentence without it.
@aniki6873
4 жыл бұрын
the guy on the top left knew from the very start that this wasn’t gonna end well.
@keithxelpujols2771
4 жыл бұрын
IMAGINE!!! talking shit about someone but then start shaking when they get in the call with you...like calm down its not even irl.
@lunacysstraightjacket2121
4 жыл бұрын
it's not about that. that's like saying the way our bodies react to situations isn't as big a deal as it would have in our more primal state long ago. The body reacts the same way. Different situations but same result.
@francisxavier8374
4 жыл бұрын
i mean, she's a small streamer that just came face to face with the scary last boss of the political twitchosphere
@autisticclown3481
4 жыл бұрын
Francis Xavier she?
@Eric-ld4mz
4 жыл бұрын
SOY
@TheMarland15
4 жыл бұрын
fluoxy L. q
@faobia5262
4 жыл бұрын
“Left” or “Right” . This type of “team” based thinking is literally pulling the country apart. And it’s irrational to think that either is more pure or “nice” than the other. This toxicity we see here is shown all over, no matter your “political identity”
@Chancho3232
4 жыл бұрын
I truly believe this is the biggest fundamental issue in our country.
@ThePsychoRenegade
4 жыл бұрын
The thing with politics is that for both sides the middle ground isn't good enough. There are things we could do to help bring other views into mainstream culture but the tribal mentality is endemic to politics.
@jermainebrown8604
4 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@joppekim
4 жыл бұрын
And the media (Mainstream or not) are amplifying this to 200%.
@thesensiblesocialist
4 жыл бұрын
First of all, people need to stop exclusively saying left and right when they're talking about everything in politics. All left and right means is whether you're more on the side of capitalism or socialism. Libertarians are super right wing and nazbols are left wing. There is another line of the spectrum for how authoritarian or libertarian you are. And even then, authoritarianism can come in several flavors ie Nazi, Soviet etc.
@ahmbient
4 жыл бұрын
The amount of times vivian has said “fucking” in her austin powers super villian voice tilted me off this earth.
@TorqueBow
4 жыл бұрын
jettashi HARDDD agree dude. She couldn’t say a single sentence without saying “fuck”
@MikeRees
4 жыл бұрын
Just used in the same way Pixie was saying like all the time. It's room to think, I forget the lexical terminology. Filler?
@shinnerdas4315
4 жыл бұрын
Crazy how Destiny is the absolute alpha in this podcast, really shows how the left presents themselves.
@Bo-pn2pg
4 жыл бұрын
It’s sad when destiny is the most normal person in a stream
@joppekim
4 жыл бұрын
@Chester mandvol Omg, that comment made me cringe
@dubsteak
4 жыл бұрын
"Most weightlifters have several world records breaks in their careers" - does she not understand the concept of world record ?
@pegas203
4 жыл бұрын
human strength is just exponentially growing 4Head
@dubsteak
4 жыл бұрын
@@pegas203 But evenly between all weightlifters, that way it's fair Pepega
@peterkirk8510
4 жыл бұрын
Records, maybe, like, state or county records... world records are nuts
@akal1236
4 жыл бұрын
The different federations call their records ”world records” so there are several world record holders at the same time even though there’s only a few legit federations per sport (powerlifting and olympic weightlifting).
@dubsteak
4 жыл бұрын
@@akal1236 so ? Even taking that into account most lifters don't break any records in their entire career...
@lumif3564
4 жыл бұрын
They pulled out the victim card at like Mach 10 lmao
@Siggicool09
4 жыл бұрын
hahaha!
@BadgerUKvideo
4 жыл бұрын
This Lady bird should not be allowed to speak on trans issues. She's got no idea what's going on. Vivian is doing a good enough job for both of them.
@Dant_D
4 жыл бұрын
She knows how to talk about herself. That's all by the sounds of it.
@auberry8613
4 жыл бұрын
@dakky Dude fuck off with the edgy shit
@Halorocks721
4 жыл бұрын
@dakky let's gooooooooo
@noname-bv4lh
4 жыл бұрын
@@auberry8613 42
@ChristopherGray00
4 жыл бұрын
you mean he's got no idea whats going on
@glasscleaner4439
4 жыл бұрын
That one guy sat there and didn’t say a WORD the entire time..... I mean those 3 guys....
@komrade9298
4 жыл бұрын
*complains that destiny talks over people* 20 minutes later: *talked over destiny*
@HitManRickyTan
4 жыл бұрын
Their whole premise was lies and hypocrisy...
@LAKD
4 жыл бұрын
Must be mansplaining!! Ban him forever
@kronotic
4 жыл бұрын
Mental Illness: The Podcast
@suigeneris2663
4 жыл бұрын
I think I can speak for the mentally ill when I say: what did we do to you to warrant such an insult?
@bonelessthincrust
4 жыл бұрын
@@suigeneris2663 pointing out an obvious mental illness to people who legitimately don't see it isn't an insult, if anything it's helping them
@duckcluck123
4 жыл бұрын
@@suigeneris2663 studies show that the further left you look on the political spectrum, the more people self identify as having some form of mental illness
@postmodernerkindergartner960
4 жыл бұрын
IKR
@nsaylor9
4 жыл бұрын
@@duckcluck123 Which studies? People love to use the phrase "studies show" to give unwarranted authority to their statements, so I'm skeptical when people say this.
@SuperBrockMister1
4 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy the fact that mindwaves just started playing Destiny 2 in the middle of the trans athlete discussion.
@myttydohun4851
4 жыл бұрын
destiny during destiny
@shahriarahmed5017
4 жыл бұрын
I was watching him fish, man..
@UnrealAxel27
4 жыл бұрын
Dawg imagine chilling and fishing and stardew valley just to be dragged into a podcast and discuss genders for an hour and some change....
@camcane1
4 жыл бұрын
36:12 "essentially yea" LMAOOOOOOOOOO
@TheNorthSwamp
4 жыл бұрын
Savage
@e13kid
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone covering their face laughing made me crack up.
@NoMoreDogma
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a thinking and rational man and being able to listen to these people and not weep for society.
@vinny5638
4 жыл бұрын
Has there been even one trans person who has debated destiny that wasn’t a terrible representative of the lgbtqia movement? These arguments have been embarrassingly frail every time this sports topic comes up.
@youare5907
4 жыл бұрын
Contrapoints is one of the best women destiny has had to advocate for trans rights, ironically enough these people tried to cancel her (not the ones in this video specifically).
@vinny5638
4 жыл бұрын
@@youare5907 I was just showing my mom contrapoints the other day, shes a great content creator imo. I'll have to look into why the "canceling" thing took place but ty
@Kyle_Schaff
4 жыл бұрын
*Vinny* I think it was because she gave her perspective on non-binary folks and having conversations begin by asking for everyone’s pronouns from a POV _a s a t r a n s w o m a n,_ and the Twitterverse hivemind and r/BreadTube didn’t like the takes
@Horrorfreak106
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_Schaff That and she had a trans medicalist person in her most recent video do a split second voice over and people freaked out for some reason. I understand that trans medicalists are dumb and wrong, but trying to cancel Contra because of a 5 second voice over is so dumb and doesn't help anyone.
@Kyle_Schaff
4 жыл бұрын
*Horrorfreak106* She was my-and I’m guessing many people’s-introduction to the trans community and trans issues. She’s a fantastic representative, articulates the topics of her videos very well, makes them so entertaining that people who usually wouldn’t care about social justice issues become invested, and has only been open about her experiences (making her feel extremely relatable despite me never experiencing what she talks about). It frustrates me to no end how much the left’s purity testing self-cannibalizes the movement. I mean, I think I’m solidly on the left, but I can count on one crippled hand the amount of lefty KZitemrs I enjoy watching and can reasonably trust not to be insane.
@0ShadowGuard
3 жыл бұрын
A year late, but you seemed regretful (to put it lightly) that you came on that show but you did a great job keeping it civil. Plus, you seemed to bring at least one person out of their unwillingness to change their views on ANYTHING when presented with new information, which is always a great thing if they have an audience of any size.
@professorsashik4271
4 жыл бұрын
My god listening to that dude who's ever other word is "Fucking" made my head hurt.
@gcfournier3386
3 жыл бұрын
That individual made me re-think how much I cuss when I'm debating. Made them look unprepared
@diolate2
4 жыл бұрын
Lady is so bothered the whole time and can't articulate in a normal manner. They are horrible for their movement. Being one of the things lady had complained about destiny doing was this exact behavior.
@bretttharpwriter
4 жыл бұрын
Don’t make shitty jokes like that, you’re swinging really close to bigotry.
@bretttharpwriter
4 жыл бұрын
The irony is that’s just your feelings right there. Scientific consensus backs transpeople completely, gender is a social construct, it’s just delusional asshats like you that desperately want to pretend the facts match your fee fees. The facts are not on your side. Walk it back right fucking now or admit you’re just irrationally uncomfortable with things you don’t understand. Or continue to lie I suppose.
@Codech64
4 жыл бұрын
@@bretttharpwriter 5Head Elementary
@CamMackay96
4 жыл бұрын
@@bretttharpwriter scientific consensus does not say what you're claiming. Don't misrepresent facts.
@bretttharpwriter
4 жыл бұрын
iYourAverageGamer you’re lying to my face right now. It’s time to grow a spine.
@justicewilson7929
4 жыл бұрын
So we're not going to talk about how she thought Tom Brady is a baseball player?
@ezkillermushroom6081
4 жыл бұрын
hold up, can i get a time stamp?
@icelestine178
4 жыл бұрын
Prob nervous and was trying to get her point across fast.
@rosssivertson6339
4 жыл бұрын
Theres a she here? I didn't see one.
@Hrybread
4 жыл бұрын
@@rosssivertson6339 shut the fuck up dude
@boka3751
3 жыл бұрын
@@rosssivertson6339Did you watch the stream? At 40min i think a girl came on
@Jozaaaa
4 жыл бұрын
Love how these stream reupload KZitem channels silently agreed to use the most unflattering pictures of destiny in their thumbnails lmao
@velrch3973
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair the pictures on his own channel often are also not exactly flattering ;).
@amerlad
4 жыл бұрын
this is one of the most shameful, sad, pathetic ''debate'' i've ever watched in my life... what the hell are they even trying to prove? they dont even know enough about the subject they're talking about to argue a point. this is why you only see educated people in actual REAL controversial debates.
@redshift912
4 жыл бұрын
Amerlad mad its as useless as a KZitem comment section .
@davec-1378
3 жыл бұрын
“You attack people on the left just like you do the right...” The goal should ALWAYS be to find the truth of premises being discussed no matter what “side” of the landscape you fall Yes, there are merely subjective views but that doesn’t seem to be what is ever in contention If you want your views taken serious and accepted you need a rational argument to support your view. This seems to be destiny’s viewpoint and I agree
@clubbedsandwich1128
2 ай бұрын
Imagine being upset that someone is unbiased in who or what they criticize. Lol
@thecoaltrain666
4 жыл бұрын
IM LITERALLY SHAKING RIGHT NOW
@juanolave8622
4 жыл бұрын
My dude in the top right playing games while people are having a heated conversation lol 😂
@normalcommenter8595
4 жыл бұрын
"I'm not sure what you've done for the left to help us" How about building the platform you are talking on right now? Had destiny not debated against right-wing ideas on twitch for the past few years you would have been bullied and laughed off the platform for any take even remotely left-leaning.
@Matthew-ti4vu
4 жыл бұрын
such a dumb argument. If your on the left and lefties are spouting some dumb shit you need to call it out. Otherwise, your just playing into tribal bs.
@justingutierrez233
4 жыл бұрын
@Dr Boom aoc hasn't done anything of the sort. Only shit head righties think she "ruins the image of the left"
@MisterDodos117
4 жыл бұрын
Firstly fuck destiny and all the cucks who follow. Secondly thats were ya'll get it wrong the guy is highly egostistical and he just has taken this venture because him speaking of polictics benefits him at the end of day. You people are the fucking problem.
@30yearoldmanthatgetsbullie44
4 жыл бұрын
MisterDodos117 you make zero sense
@MisterDodos117
4 жыл бұрын
@@30yearoldmanthatgetsbullie44 fuck u
@zdog058
4 жыл бұрын
When I'm agreeing with destiny more than you, you've got some issues lol
@berkaiwastaken
3 жыл бұрын
fucking truee lol
@V4RUTV
11 ай бұрын
Being a patient of multiple doctors in Navy hospitals as a kid; my mom has told me plenty of unsettling stories about the quality of care they gave. Not to dig on our military but being a medical professional in the Navy honestly means very little. It took my mom a dozen appointments before they finally declared I had asthma and thats because there was one decent doctor there that actually cared about their job.
@tricktap8502
4 жыл бұрын
Lol imagine being so far left destiny an advocate for the right 😂
@karatekevlar
4 жыл бұрын
"knotzaaahcism" pixie is triggering me when she says this lol
@buzzerking
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was bad.
@Dencyftw
4 жыл бұрын
25:53 Look at vivian's face after that "cis white guy" meme LOL
@joncolumbino744
4 жыл бұрын
lmao even he knew that was indefensible.
@lyrrr.8059
4 жыл бұрын
@@joncolumbino744 *She. You're just giving them an easy out by calling you trans-phobic for misgendering.
@VrilWizard
Жыл бұрын
It's so cringe hearing a 36yr old say they're like a high-school teenage girl going through a second puberty
@Winasaurus
Жыл бұрын
Really makes it even more icky. And adds more credence to the autogynephilia idea. Why else would you be so excited to be like a young girl?
@uncaliber
Жыл бұрын
I'm a trans man in my late 20s, started at 19. It does FEEL like a second puberty, but it's not in most ways. To claim that's what it is, is silly. HRT changes nothing about your thought patterns, impulses, etc etc. While it certainly does in teenagers. The only aspects I could compare to puberty, is being a little more emotional, changes in hunger, and changes in epidermis oil production + body odor (that's not all the changes, but those are similar to what hapoens during puberty.) Personally, i would never say I "feel like a teenage boy" because I just don't lol. If anything I feel like a late 20s guy who just looks young. Some trans women are seriously creepy sometimes, and I can't explain why. Then again, I think a lot of trans men are just ugly retarded women larping as minorities so it's not exactly my most scientific observation.
@Winasaurus
Жыл бұрын
@@uncaliber Saved the based take for the end. Sad but true. If you're a mid woman but still desperate for attention because social media has fucked your brain, you can either continue being a mid woman on social media (below-average considering filters + surgeries), or, take like 1 round of hormones, call yourself 'transmasc' or a 'femboy' and then you're immediately in the top 1% of femboys because you're literally just a woman but saying you're not. Then bask in internet points because horny porn-ruined losers will jerk off over you and say you're the hottest most feminine femboy ever, because you're literally just a fucking girl. Obviously this isn't all trans people, but if you've visited any sort of 'femboy'/'feminine male' particular area/subreddit, there's a staggering amount of bio women just saying they're femboys for attention.
@RayTheomo
5 ай бұрын
That made my skin CRAWL.
@VrilWizard
5 ай бұрын
@@uncaliber not reading all that troony
@Asharon
4 жыл бұрын
24:18 This is the best gotcha moment. The guy with the wird voice (wtf) is saying that m2f have a "heavier" skeleton and are thus in a disadvantage. If this was true it would mean that f2m would have an enormous advantage if they could build the same muscles as men while having a "lighter" skeleton. The fact that this doesn't happen, makes destiny's argument easily.
@joncolumbino744
4 жыл бұрын
their point is that there is not enough data to prove a significant difference of cis vs trans woman, and that Destiny cherrypicked his data so it is not good evidence. I don’t agree with LadyRayne at all, but that is her argument.
@dracondebates
4 жыл бұрын
I love how Puffshake hopped in, high af, gave the gender in sports is extraneous argument, which Destiny was in complete agreement with, and Vivian pretended it was never mentioned.
@ripcord69
Жыл бұрын
-Destiny enters the call "Why am I hearing boss music?"
@UnbeatableLogic
4 жыл бұрын
As a Respirtory clinician I can verify men in fact naturally do have larger lung capacity. When calculating tidal volume, the average of a bio male is 1.2 times that of a bio female
@heinzguderian9980
4 жыл бұрын
Terrible argument. If the reason why you think biological males should not compete with biological females is due to lung capacity, then if a biological males proves that their lung capacity is lower than that of the average female capacity, then you must believe that they should be allowed to compete with woman. The same reasoning can be applied to any and all physical traits that you may add. It doesn't matter if you have 100 different traits that give males advantages - if the male is measured for all of them and is found to be at average female levels, then they must be allowed to compete with females if they so choose. That is, if you actually believe in the argument you are making.
@garininderdeo8010
4 жыл бұрын
I learned about this is highschool in grade 11 biology... He's actually just uneducated on the issue
@sammy123999
4 жыл бұрын
@@heinzguderian9980 This ignores why we have male and female distinction in sport in the first place. Barring a few sports male competition is the pinnacle of sport. Female sports are mostly for marketing sports towards women and trying to get more women into sports.
@123TheArsenal321
4 жыл бұрын
@@heinzguderian9980That is a fallacious rebuttal. If you did measure every single possible factor including fast twitch/slow twitch ratio, lung capacity, bone density, muscle fiber density, tendon strength, etc. and all of those factors were determined to be that of an average female, then yes it would be fair for them to compete as female. However, that is for one nearly impossible to do, and two almost certainly not the case.
@hocky-ham324-zg8zc
4 жыл бұрын
Heinz Guderian ...?
@guyfromdubai
4 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling RayneCloud brings up their military past a lot to try to impress people.
@TheMasterBM
4 жыл бұрын
The only time someone in the military is the first to bring up that they are in the military, in my experience, they are lying about it. Probably not the case here but I've come across it enough times to be suspicious.
@itsjustalex8673
4 жыл бұрын
Bravo on Destiny for remaining consistent in his argument and dealing with so much back peddling from Vivian. Felt like no progress was made in 90 minutes of chatter.
@papaofthejohns5882
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Vivian has to be one of the worst leftists I’ve ever seen. Have you seen the debate panel with Vivian and Vaush (the one which Destiny later crashes)?
@junikohana
4 жыл бұрын
Mindwaves really just starts playing Destiny 2 lmfaoooo
@philippegauvin4127
4 жыл бұрын
Why does destiny look 60 in the thumbnail sheeeeesh you did him dirty
@Silver_Saint
4 жыл бұрын
Dread it. Run from it. Destiny still arrives all the same.
@idkman2633
4 жыл бұрын
👏INCLUSIVITY👏FOR👏INSECT-PEOPLE👏 1:07:48
@BaNuj
4 жыл бұрын
wow, and this video made me respect Destiny for his common sense. Even if i'm not on the left side of the spectrum and i do not agree with his certain opinions. thanks
@vwwvictor
4 жыл бұрын
”wait are we watching destiny or destiny the game” lmfao
@Uncle_Iroh
4 жыл бұрын
Drinking Game: Take a shot every time they say “like”.
@Matt-tc6ys
4 жыл бұрын
are you trying to get me killed?
@whitehorsedown6499
4 жыл бұрын
You killed my dog.
@orangescrubb3390
3 жыл бұрын
I died
@chucknorris3752
4 жыл бұрын
Idk what kind of physiology classes this guy was taking but I'm literally only in my undergrad for biology right now and my Intro to human physiology literally had us experimentally observe the difference in lung capacity between men and woman as part of the curriculum. Let me repeat that. We weren't just taught it, it is so evidently true that we EXPERIMENTALLY determined it for ourselves. This information is on the level of "let's let the kids drop eggs of buildings to teach them about gravity.". That's how fundamental it is. Selective memory going on here for sure. There's absolutely 0 way a medical professional wasn't taught this information. 0 way. It was such an obvious and important part of our cardiovascular unit (among many many other things of course). I'm not even a med student yet..??? How do I know this and not him?
@thegeeselord8259
4 жыл бұрын
"What do you know about trans issues as a cis white man?" Dumbest question ever. You don't have to be going through the transition to know the science.
@thegeeselord8259
4 жыл бұрын
@Lain I do have have trans friends. I support their change and use proper pronouns for them when they are and aren't around. I don't think someone who is trans is less human. To think I have to be deeply connected at a personal level to the issue to have a conversation is ignorant and a protection from any possible criticism, even if said criticism is fair. The idea that asking questions is bullying and feeding into hate groups is also bullshit. Facts don't care about feelings. Avoiding facts and legitimate questions to protect yours is cowardly and proving people just want to be in a hive-mind. If someone is trans, they deserve to be loved and given equal opportunity, but to deny the actual cases of gender dysmorphia, which is why these 30 day periods take place, take away from those transitioning with real issues that I'm apparently not allowed to talk about. Bullshit. Me living a day pretending I'm the opposite gender to get their experience is not the same as someone who is legitimately transitioned and now that gender. Nice to know that you think being trans is that simple though, which is more offensive if anything.
@ceder8095
4 жыл бұрын
and funny thing is destiny isnt even white hes half cuban
@alexmeyer8133
4 жыл бұрын
@Lain people can speak on whatever they want to speak on... Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean they don't have the right to speak on a subject. I'm sorry but this whole discussion makes these two specific trans people look actually mentally unstable and give a bad name for all trans people. The left continuously shoots itself in the foot and no one on that side seems to see how self harming it is.
@jayan6497
3 жыл бұрын
36:12 THE QUADRA FACE PALM HAHAHAHAHA
@brendantornabene5723
4 жыл бұрын
Destiny made his opponent shaky in this debate
@j3nax528
7 ай бұрын
Ladyrayne admitting it is spineless right of the bat. "I'm literally shaking rn"
@kylebfeye9850
3 жыл бұрын
Ahrelavent was dying lmfaoooooooo
@McMintyMP
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly this stuff makes me realize Destiny isn't as crazy as I thought. At least he has SOME moral and logical positions. Over the last few months this guy has gained a ton of respect from me. Challenging these people is "career suicide" in the real world.
@Kyle_Schaff
4 жыл бұрын
Just one critique. Destiny’s entire worldview comes from a place of being diehard consistent with his morals and logical positions. He will change his views if he finds a contradiction. He takes his principles extraordinarily seriously. When it comes to debates, Destiny has said many times that his main goal is to be the most correct; his agenda is to find the best answers that conform to his principles, not to find answers that conform to some position.
@MergatroidS
4 жыл бұрын
LMAO he's crazy unless he pisses off the people I hate too. Mmmkay, guy.
@foop145
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_Schaff Right, he puts forth a serious effort to follow the logic wherever it goes, rather than trying to find logic that fits his conclusions. Would you prefer he engage in motivated reasoning?
@dubsteak
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_Schaff He thought about stuff, made conclusions about it, won't change his mind about it unless there's a new better argument for those positions, how is that a critique ?
@BeethovenIsGrumpyCat
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_Schaff This is one reason I really like Destiny, because he puts a self-made set of principles above an idealogical position.
@SneakyBadness
4 жыл бұрын
Destiny is shockingly reasonable. I can’t remember why I had a bad first impression of him
@dnciskkk9037
4 жыл бұрын
Because he did to others, the same thing as his former comrades now do to him. It is only the last 6 months that he has changed. And he has not completely changed, he still mislabel people on purpose, and argue strawmen instead of what people say. They are cannibalizing on him now, because he had a phase where he acted respectful in conversations with centrists and conservatives. And the clubmembership demands that you act 5 in those settings, cuss, yell, interrupt, speak over, etc. It is not about this false label about being transephobe at all. He spoke to conservatives, that was his crime. He broke the first rul of leftyclub, do not debate or speak to conservatives. 2 rule, no dialogue, and the maxine waters tirade, you gather a mob and fight them, tell them that they are not welcome, at the store, at your job, in a restaurant. That is the rules he broke, he did not attack.
@itsallawork5756
4 жыл бұрын
DNC ISKKK wrong and you can’t back it up with any logs or clips. Just another person mischaracterizing him
@dnciskkk9037
4 жыл бұрын
@@itsallawork5756 You can never be honest, so F clips for you. Are you going to pretend like he does not call just about every conservative racist? And use the codeword for racist, alt right, to call people racist? And has he never used the phoney words transphobe, islamophobe, etc? Does he not call men sexist? Has he never said that he hates his country, because he thinks americans are racists? or half the country?He would be a great segregationist in the old days, or a great nazi, he is a master of grouping people. Now he gets the same treatment he gave others. He should have recognized the group he was spokesperson for, and how they operate when they designate you an enemy. He was a henchmen for them after all. Poetic justice.
@wavegunner2323
4 жыл бұрын
@@dnciskkk9037 Did you know that you're totally able to debate Destiny whenever you want?
@dnciskkk9037
4 жыл бұрын
@@wavegunner2323 I am a nobody, I have not got a channel or a podcast. Why would he debate me? I have watched a little bit of him debating nobodies, but they seemed to have actice channels or were active members in his community on twitch. I am not on twitch. And I don't really have much to debate him on. Apart from his mislabeling of people as racist, but I am pretty sure he does not want a debate about his personal ethics.
@Chironex_Fleckeri
4 жыл бұрын
46:10-49:10 this sums up the talk. Watch the guy in the top left react. I think most of these people enjoyed Destiny coming in there. I think Destiny handled this well.
@nunyabusinessbro8527
2 жыл бұрын
They weren't scared because of destiny's fanbase, they were scared because it takes an extreme amount of gall and bravado to confront someone after you've just been saying things behind their back. They're spineless, that's why they were anxious and nervous. Also the whole fanbase thing just seemed like a "don't attack me for my opinion or personally attacking destiny" kind of thing. They wanted to attack destiny, but didn't want other people to attack them.
@tempj
4 жыл бұрын
1:15:47 " i mean you got alot to learn on this subject " ... almost a minute later says themselves 1:17:00 "im not educated enough to be arguing this point enough" oh boy!!!
@funkyboy4158
4 жыл бұрын
Her argument that you cant know anything about trans because you yourself are not trans is like saying doctors cant possibly study cancer because not all of them have cancer lol
@hallo-mt5tx
4 жыл бұрын
one of the shittiest attempts of shutting someone down i have ever seen
@fiaman1234
3 жыл бұрын
Hospital Corpsman here. We won't need to know lung capacity unless it falls under our duties like specializing in diving which requires more schooling that falls outside our basic training.
@myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892
4 жыл бұрын
“The hammer and sickle was a symbol of socialism in general, you can’t say he’s a tankie just because of that!” “The swastika is a symbol of Buddhism and ancient Eurasian religions, you can’t say he’s a nazi just because of that!” Sure, you can’t, but in context it’s pretty obvious what these symbols are used for when Mike does the H&S or when the edgy 4channers do the Swastika.
@Codech64
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, idk why people pretend to be retarded when it comes to this
@alexwalker4177
4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't mike also use a soviet emblem on his twitch page? Like something from the East German flag.
@seto007
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexwalker4177 his Twitch name is literally "Central Committee" lmao
@ultimateblaze23
4 жыл бұрын
better a tankie than a liberal
@redhandsoftheviii588
4 жыл бұрын
I got friends who grandparents from Eastern Germany and remember the Berlin wall. They recoll in horror when they see the hammer n sickle being used by left, they view the hammer n sickle as the Nazi swastika.
@blew1t
4 жыл бұрын
25:47 i love how even vivian yikesed at that one
@QuakePhil
Жыл бұрын
35:30 “WE NEVER GOT TAUGHT ABOUT IT” Welp! Case closed, folks.
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