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@kicitorun
Жыл бұрын
@@L17_8i love you, the end!
@georgepatton93
Жыл бұрын
This expedition is the poster child for "THE WORST CASE" scenario, wrong timing, wrong strategy, wrong tactics, miscommunication, etc.
@thatoneguy5856
Жыл бұрын
Plus the general that had the actual plan was MIA due to politics
@noname-bk7bc
Жыл бұрын
I think the post mortem of this is one of the most beautiful things written in a history
@MiguelPerez-zx2wg
Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. Someone will top this off within 2,356 years later.
@Redactedredacted5837
Жыл бұрын
@@MiguelPerez-zx2wg Be prepared for angry Wehraboos.
@johnmatthews2553
Жыл бұрын
The Spartans sending reinforcements to Syracuse really gets me. They did everything in their power to make it difficult for Athens. Corinth helped Syracuse as well..
@iexist3919
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the infamous Sicilian Expedition. Everything that could’ve gone wrong did.
@user-sc5iv2rp2t
Жыл бұрын
The Syracusans spared only those Athenians that knew verses from the tragedies of Euripedes. Thucidides says that for years veterans would kiss Euripedes hands on the street because he saved them from the quarries.
@olamideolanrewaju4005
Жыл бұрын
Why spare those who knew verses from Euripedes?
@user-sc5iv2rp2t
Жыл бұрын
@@olamideolanrewaju4005 Because he was the superstar poet of the era known to all the Greek world.
@samuelmargueret9626
Жыл бұрын
The fact that sicily has been so much contested in Europe through the ages is just crazy !! Greeks , Normans , italians , romans , spanish and others .... i Wonder how many people died for sicily !! Love your vidéo as always
@AhmedAshraf-ue6yz
Жыл бұрын
even arabs
@geordiejones5618
Жыл бұрын
Might be the single most strategic island on the planet. Control it, and you will historically control most if not all of the Mediterranean. At least up through WW2. Right now I'd say the Panama/Suez canals and Taiwan are what I'd call the most significant military targets for the 21st century and the US has by far the best foothold on all three with its global navy.
@wilkannen8346
Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is as soon as anyone takes Sicily, they begin ignoring it.
@Liamtheseriousguy
Жыл бұрын
Carthaginians, brits and americans too!
@ziedhmili7196
24 күн бұрын
The first punic war was essentially about Sicily.
@devereuxbirdzell
Жыл бұрын
I find it absolutely incredible that we're able to understand battles fought almost 2500 years ago. It's just wonderful.
@voiceofthevoid1477
Жыл бұрын
I have been following you guy from college-my time being a history teacher. This channel is like my new Saturday morning cartoons, amazing work!
@schroedingersdog7965
Жыл бұрын
14:07 This lunar eclipse (when "Gaia hid Selene from her brother, Helios") took place on the evening of August 28, 413 BCE. The eclipse was total, with the total phase lasting 43 minutes. As seen from Syracuse, the middle (darkest part) of the eclipse occurred at about 11:00 PM. Depending on the weather, another lunar eclipse would have been visible from Syracuse nearly 6 months earlier - on the evening of March 4. I cannot help but wonder what effect - if any - this almost total eclipse had on the Athenian invasion.
@Gronk79
Жыл бұрын
Great comment! Could the ancients, however, even predict a lunar eclipse?
@schroedingersdog7965
Жыл бұрын
@@Gronk79 Ancient Babylonian astronomers certainly predicted lunar eclipses - we have their cuneiform-inscribed baked clay tablets listing accurately predicted eclipses hundreds of years in their future. Eclipses occur in regular cycles (the "saros"), so predicting the dates of future lunar eclipses isn't difficult if you have records of the dates of past eclipses, as the Babylonians did.
@JRGProjects
Жыл бұрын
Spartan Diplomat: The Athenians will create a United States of Force! Americans: Can we use that name?
@dand7763
Жыл бұрын
European Union TODAY: United States of Europe (under the german rule)
@philtkaswahl2124
Жыл бұрын
"Y'know, boys, it occurs to me we might have read that eclipse just a little bit wrong."
@jimmyandersson9938
Жыл бұрын
Athens controlling entire Aegean sea and the coast of Anatolia but sending their army to Sicily and dying is like watching a guy with money enough to be set for life gamble away everything on a slot machine.
@panagiotis7946
Жыл бұрын
e great plan was the unification of the entire Greek world to deal with the Persian danger
@barbiquearea
Жыл бұрын
Alcibiades's father had old connections with the Spartan aristocracy. Alcibiades himself was said to have been breastfed by a Spartan wet nurse in his infancy (Spartan girls were highly sought after as wet nurses). This connection may have made it easy for him to defect to Sparta and ingratiate himself into their society and be accepted and adored by the elites of Sparta.
@circleancopan7748
Жыл бұрын
While most of his time, he served Athens with all his heart. But what Athenians gave to his loyalty in exchange? Suspicion and utter contempt.
@mikkelsieburg89
Жыл бұрын
@@cal2127 This is not even close to be uniqe to democracys
@jimhjortsberg2990
Жыл бұрын
@@circleancopan7748 He seemed to have known that the charges was mostly just a political conspiracy against him anyway. He actually tried to have the trial done prior to leaving which the court refused to do. And the fact that he was convicted in absentia and condemned to death with an entire talent worth of gold offered to whoever managed to kill him might have proved him right....
@matthewj6154
Жыл бұрын
The Syracusans were hugh fans of theatre and Athenian plays. Apparently the only way to get out of the quarry was to be able to recite a play in a way that the locals found suitably entertaining.
@MelkromisteinWeeb
Жыл бұрын
Alkibiades is one of my favourite historical personalities because he lived one of the most ridiculous political lives. I'd hate his guts when he'd be a politician today, but in retrospective he's a charismatic leader who is actually able to back up his charisma, as he was also a good general which will be noticed a bit later in the war when he keeps Athens alive for a few more years.
@dingusdean1905
Жыл бұрын
He was a mad lad in the purest sense of the term
@Kimmerios-l5u
Жыл бұрын
@@dingusdean1905 but very popular with the ladies as we will see in the future.
@mikloshoffer282
Жыл бұрын
I tend to agree on that. Also, I am under the impression that later in his life he had overcome a lot of his earlier character flaws. The fact that his past finally caught up with him when he had actually become a better man, to me gives great depth to his story with an abundance of both glory and tragedy.
@Kimmerios-l5u
Жыл бұрын
@@mikloshoffer282 there is a fine historical novel with the title ''My Master Alkiviades''. It's his life viewed by his personnal servant as this aspect of Alkiviades as you described it. Sadly for most of the readers is in greek.
@mikloshoffer282
Жыл бұрын
@@Kimmerios-l5u Thank you, I see it in English as well. With a band of mine we did a cycle based on The Rise and Fall of Athens by Plutarch.
@schoolofgrowthhacking
Жыл бұрын
Athens should have begun preparing their exit strategy as soon as enemy reinforcements began to pour in. Waiting 27 days to withdraw was a fatal mistake.
@davidhughes8357
Жыл бұрын
A really good description of the Epipolae Plateau fortifications particularly the Euralus Fort was in Peter Connelly's excellent Illustrated book Greece and Rome at war. Years ago I lost my extensive library of ancient military history in a house fire and am still working to replace the most important ones.
@shehansenanayaka3046
Жыл бұрын
Kings and genrals is my fav history channel. Brilliant as alwys. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos. Your fan from Sri Lanka ❤️.
@jozzieokes3422
Жыл бұрын
It always gets better every episode!
@luke3807
Жыл бұрын
Quality content as usual. According to Plutarch, Syracuse and a few surrounding cities were founded by Greeks from Corinth.
@davidhughes8357
Жыл бұрын
Many years ago when I first began studying ancient military history I saw a description of the fortifications of the Epipolae Plateau at Syracuse. Have never forgot that and it would be very welcome to see a follow up on it.
@queldron
Жыл бұрын
One of the best episodes ever released by Kings and Generals imo! (and I have seen all videos regarding ancient/medieval history) Also, I can't wait for your video about the Ten Thousand!
@CoreyANeal2000
Жыл бұрын
17:06 I love how they go into how one of the leaders didn't want to kill the othersides, but his side was too angry.
@queldron
Жыл бұрын
@@CoreyANeal2000 Yeah, a chivalry move that didn't "move" the Syracusans.
@FalseNomen
Жыл бұрын
Learning about this is what made think that maybe the Athenians weren't the 'good guys' in the war. >What do you do when you're a democracy fighting an autocracy breathing down your neck? Launch a surprise invasion against a neutral democracy on the other side of the Greek world, of course.< Everything about this was a mess. Athena surely withdrew her favor in the fiasco that followed.
@starbreeze7249
Жыл бұрын
Athens had its share of good guy moments and bad guy moments depending on the leader. It was a time ot strife, it was hard to be the good guy. What the Greeks came to learn, however, was it was better to be ruled by Athenians than it was by Spartans. Of course in the end it was Thebes and Sparta who were essentially completely wiped out, while Athens continued on
@Jaco059
Жыл бұрын
Makes you question the infallibility of democracy which the modern politician in America does so without question. If the leaders of your democracy don’t have to follow the will of the people then you basically aren’t a democracy anymore. And who holds the leaders accountable the people are supposed to but you can’t fix the problems quick enough and if they don’t care to listen to the people then what’s the point.
@Jaco059
Жыл бұрын
@@starbreeze7249but they lost the war and were basically occupied by Sparta and Thebes for years. The Athenians would never gain the power they had pre 400 bc and were eventually forced into joining Alexander.
@al-muwaffaq341
Жыл бұрын
There was no good guys in this war. Sparta and Athens committed atrocities.
@markcoroneos7811
Жыл бұрын
@@Jaco059it comes down to the break up of the “leagues” following the war and the theban hegemony. Sparta had its back broken after leuctra, losing messenia effectively broke their society. Without the helot slaves, spartans were never able to project power the way they could prior. Hence why they stayed inactive during the rise of macedonia. Athens lost its delian league and suffered for a time, but was still able to capitalise on their economic and naval strength. Their society wasnt dismantled as would happen to sparta. They, along with thebes, we’re constantly checking phillip’s expansionism until he decisively defeated them at chaeronea.
@legioabchao14
Жыл бұрын
"...as Gaia hid Selena from her brother, Helios." That was beautiful K&G. Congrats !
@CliffCardi
Жыл бұрын
Delian League: “We suffered the greatest defeat in Antiquity.” Gaius Terentius Varro: “Hold my wine.”
@damienm
Жыл бұрын
This Peloponnesian War is one of your best series!
@grapeshott
Жыл бұрын
Alcebiades is a character in Plato's Symposium. Handsome and talented man, but he crushed on the ugly yet intelligent Socrates.
@tamoahmed-h9b
Жыл бұрын
Do you want to talk about kurdistan?☺️
@jonbaxter2254
Жыл бұрын
We need a Total War from this period.
@KingsandGenerals
Жыл бұрын
Wrath of Sparta DLC does a good job
@jonbaxter2254
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will check it out! @@KingsandGenerals
@Mrkabrat
Жыл бұрын
Its even funnier once you consider one of Pericles' advice was "As long as we don't launch ourselves into the conquest of new lands and focus on our naval dominance, war shall go well for us". Guess Alcibiades wanted glory no matter what
@PrimeroVorian1
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@vitorpereira9515
Жыл бұрын
Basically excessive ambition, lack of adequate preparation, ineffective leadership, Sicilian resistance and adverse conditions all contributed to the Athenian defeat. Lack of resources, coordination, and local support, along with resistance from Sicilian cities, made it impossible for Athens to conquer Sicily. This defeat marked the beginning of the decline of Athens.
@tamoahmed-h9b
Жыл бұрын
Do you want to about kurdistan?☺️
@kingt0295
Жыл бұрын
You said the same thing twice there lol
@br0k3nman
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Ruzzia in Ukraine. 😹
@panagiotis7946
Жыл бұрын
the great plan was the unification of the entire Greek world to deal with the Persian danger If Alcibiades had not been hunted by the oligarchs and led the campaign it would have been a complete success Alcibiades was a great strategic mind Nikias did not believe in the campaign and entered into a great adventure
@roihanfadhil2879
Жыл бұрын
I like when you include phrases about Greek mythology in your video narration on the minute 12:47, 14:10, and 16:04. Maybe the Athenians didn't have the blessing of Hermes and Ares so their expedition had to totally fail!
@tamoahmed-h9b
Жыл бұрын
Do you want to talk about kurdistan?☺️
@tamoahmed-h9b
Жыл бұрын
Do you want to talk about kurdistan?☺️
@unknowguy9642
Жыл бұрын
Yeah i really like that line about Gaia hiding Selene from Helios. It sound just like something the ancient Greek scholar would say😂😂
@joshlesure3196
Жыл бұрын
This channel continues to feed my interest/passion for history with each and every video, so keep it up!
@theawesomeman9821
Жыл бұрын
HBO should make a historical drama series for the Greek states like it did for Rome.
@joeltochukwu4199
Жыл бұрын
Was thinking about this the other day. We seem to have a lot of movies/series based on ancient Rome than ancient Greece. No idea why. History like the Diadochi wars with its plethora of characters, plots and subplots, betrayals can be made a series with equal standing with GoT.
@theawesomeman9821
Жыл бұрын
@@joeltochukwu4199 I think people are just more aware about Rome because it was an ancient super power
@joeltochukwu4199
Жыл бұрын
@@theawesomeman9821 Yes you are right. But the Greeks were a superpower too. Well, maybe superpower is not the word, but they were very very influential in classical history and antiquity and with so many stories and characters, I'm surprised we don't have much film/series production about them.
@theawesomeman9821
Жыл бұрын
@@joeltochukwu4199 there was that biopic of Alexander the Great played by Collin Feral, 300, and the movie Troy which starred Brad Pit for Greek content.
@MarouenAK
Жыл бұрын
Good documentary, i was somehow surprised by the expression : heavely armoured light troops
@Kimmerios-l5u
Жыл бұрын
Well done and very descriptive video. Actually Nikias asked from Athens to be relieved of his command and and permission to abandon the campaign.Instead he received reinforcements with Demosthenes. When one of the most heartbreaking moments as described by Thucidides was when during the athenian retreat, the sick and wounded warriors cried and begged their fellow soldiers not to abandon them. Another intersting fact is that some Athenians survived the quarries by reciting verses of Aeschylus and other great poets of Athens.
@Hadrexus
Жыл бұрын
WHY IZ YOU WHISPERIN YA GIT
@Kimmerios-l5u
Жыл бұрын
@@Hadrexus
@christopheradam5816
Жыл бұрын
I see you there, little guy. Tiny little Rome all tucked away, bet he must be amazed at all these big fish swimming around him.
@jimweights8908
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating the Syracuse flag is same as Isle of Man. And it’s not a coincidence but direct connection
@RobertaPeck
10 ай бұрын
Your aerial visuals during the lecture masterly inable understanding !!!!
@robbabcock_
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing these fantastic videos! ⚔🔥🙌
@KingsandGenerals
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@leeboy26
Жыл бұрын
Well Age Of Empires didn't have it entirely wrong with the incessent wall building.
@deangajraj
Жыл бұрын
The Peloponnesian War, an ever-present reminder of the pitfalls of grand ambitions and hubris, is entrenched in the annals of history. Allured by his own skillful tactics and charismatic charm, Alcibiades led the Athenian fleet into the Sicilian Expedition, embodying the Icarus myth. Herein lies a reverberating warning: empires blinded by their power all too often ignore telling portents. Such was the case for Athens in Sicily - similar to that of Achaemenids in Greece or Soviets in Afghanistan - driven onward despite history's subtle murmurs. Through Syracuse's heroes, Sparta's adversaries, and Alcibiades' own risings and fallings; we read of imperiousness, betrayal and ultimately the downfall of greatness itself. Thucydides repeatedly reminded us that heeding not these warnings invites similar fates: what has been will come around again "not in exactly the same form but following predictable lines."
@panagiotis7946
Жыл бұрын
athena did not have an empire what athena tried was the union of the greek cities for better protection of the greek world from the persian danger
@kendallcribbins415
Жыл бұрын
You guys have the best youtube channels by far! Wizards and warriors is just as awesome!
@kmystak
Жыл бұрын
At last, I was waiting for this for so long!
@-RONNIE
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the quality information in this video
@KingsandGenerals
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@-RONNIE
Жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals of course
@charlesdeleo4608
Жыл бұрын
As an Italian-American, I love studying this part of the Peloponnesian War, because the Athenians stupidly brought the war to Italy. And this was when Syracuse was at the height of its power, and would continue to rise under Dionysius I, until the rising might of Rome came on the scene 200 years later.
@panagiotis7946
Жыл бұрын
Athens lost the war from the pandemic at the very beginning half the population died or marched as well as the great figure of Pericles of the experienced Athenian crews of the ships, almost 60% died That's where the war was lost
@beachboy0505
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Watched it 3x A great story every expeditionary force commanders should know. Keep your lines of retreat open. Have an exit policy, control the politics (1940, Dunkirk)
@michaelsinger4638
Жыл бұрын
This was a case of “everything that could go wrong, DID go wrong.” What a clusterf***.
@EiHelveta
Жыл бұрын
Bruh all these walls make Caesars' wall game look weak.
@zoeking8320
Жыл бұрын
You should cover xenophon and the March of the ten thousand
@franciscovelasco5422
Жыл бұрын
It’s on patreon
@garthrogers2269
Жыл бұрын
'There is nothing so terrible as a battle lost, except a battle won.' - Sir Arthur Wellesly.
@denniscleary7580
Жыл бұрын
This was a pleasant surprise this morning, now I can have a good 👍
@BaldricOutremer
Жыл бұрын
The Sicilian expedition really illustrates the downsides of having a strong reputation as an imperialistic power. Plenty of Sicilian cities disliked Syracuse and might have allied with Athens if it hadn't been so obvious that Athens meant to conquer the entire island. On a different subject, I think we can safely say that the dumbest man in the entire story was the soothsayer who thought it was a good idea to have an army desperate to retreat just sit on its hands for an entire month.
@LocalHeretic-ck1kd
Жыл бұрын
Many years ago I read a book by Peter Green about Alcibiades and the Sicilian Expedition. It was a good book that taught me a lot.
@dennisgichohi5392
Жыл бұрын
There is a saying in swahili that says.....mtaka yote hukosa yote.Athenians were a perfect example
@richardstone5552
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Aginor88
Жыл бұрын
Interesting as per usual from this channel.
@spear-slayer3159
Жыл бұрын
Imagine being in the last trireme out of Syracuse listening to "Fortunate Son"
@Harrier_DuBois
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@321AlterSchwede
Жыл бұрын
I see a similarity to the war of germany against russia in second world war. In both cases, a land choose to wage another war to get ressources instead of finishing their arch enemy first. In both cases probably the countrys could not win their first war - germany could not invade england and athen could not invade sparta - so they tried a gamble in another war - theater to gain more ressources for the first war.
@1987MartinT
Жыл бұрын
I, personally, consider the Sicilian Expedition to have been as big of a disaster for Athens as the battle of Stalingrad was for Nazi Germany, if not a bigger disaster.
@generalhorse493
Жыл бұрын
I think the Nazis made an equally big disaster, but arguably that was Barbarossa, not Stalingrad. Stalingrad was a continuation of the mess that the Nazis got themselves into, Barbarossa was a unmitigated disaster that ended their trade deal with the Soviets that was giving them much needed oil, opened a second front requiring them to dedicate most of their resources where they hadn't to previously, they did almost no intelligence gathering or strategic planning beforehand, assumed their enemy would just collapse in on themselves in several weeks, they ignored their logistics despite going into the biggest land empire in human history, assumed they would capture the railway system intact, and had fewer planes ready for the invasion than at the start of the Battle of Britain, and in 4 months of combat all they had to show for it was losing 75-80% of their panzers and 1 million men, more men than America and Britain lost during the entire war.
@talebmalainine
Жыл бұрын
Mad Punic wars is exclusive for members and it was me who asked 😢
@Jesse_Dawg
Жыл бұрын
Please more videos. I love these
@matts7125
Жыл бұрын
Wow that’s crazy to imagine athens controlling Sicily and Carthage and eventually clashing with rome
@roysobak1421
Жыл бұрын
9:21 Heavily armored light troops. Also known as bipolar army.
@Insectoid_
Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👏
@kennethwebber8159
Жыл бұрын
I still think they need to make a movie on Alcibiades' life. Maybe get Armando Iannucci to direct it.
@Squall17x
Жыл бұрын
"I said, you wouldn't have had much fun In Sicily, mr. Alcibiades"
@tomriley5790
Жыл бұрын
HAve to feel sorry for Nikius, he really didn't deserve that.
@ApacheKaiju04
11 күн бұрын
This expedition was the embodiment of Murphy's Law. 😢
@dsspryg
Жыл бұрын
I have subscribed to this channel since the beginning. but this channel has changed to prioritize membership. I try to support this channel as much as I can by viewing and not skipping ads, but that doesn't mean anything. When the pacific war series was no longer free it made me a little disappointed, and realized that "you don't support a channel if you don't pay", "you don't support a channel if you are poor". But that's how things are now, thank you for providing information about history so far.
@KingsandGenerals
Жыл бұрын
We never said anything like that. The goal is to keep the production going. Everyone still gets at least 3 free videos per week.
@JamesYork-jy2tl
Жыл бұрын
@@KingsandGenerals the thing is it’s early access tell your subs that they think they never gonna watch them
@ShaneHasPlayz
Жыл бұрын
Lol we get early access for a video we alr have access to in members only vids
@tamoahmed-h9b
Жыл бұрын
Do you want to talk about kurdistan?☺️
@faenethlorhalien
Жыл бұрын
Whod've'thunk that ancient Sicily would have a Japanese sword. Katana wtf.
@pauloboyle477
Жыл бұрын
I am just so confused as to why both sides would leave the harbor that open!! How could both sides move that freely thru there
@pilomalik9696
Жыл бұрын
I wrote a screenplay on Alcibiades
@maddogbasil
Жыл бұрын
*"Yo K&G"* 👋👋 *Can We Get A Video On The Cushites Of the Horn of Africa* Its truly an ancient and rivh historical region From the Land of Punt, to macrobia to axumites and Would definitely live to see a more in depth description of the horn of africa
@mauriceetal1426
Жыл бұрын
Is the horn the bottom or top?
@maddogbasil
Жыл бұрын
@@mauriceetal1426its in the north east Next door to arabia
@willfungusman8666
Жыл бұрын
When will the HBO version come out
@BigBossXCV
Жыл бұрын
With every character black and gay?
@willfungusman8666
Жыл бұрын
@@BigBossXCV Jo every character is trans with 3 b holes
@theadventuresofnekosnowbal7285
Жыл бұрын
Wise words by Herodotus of Halicarnasus at the very end. Millenia have passed and technology has advanced, but human nature has not changed all that much.
@masterofmuppets357
5 ай бұрын
I think Fortnite took some inspiration from the constant walls being built to block other walls from being built.
@jramseier
Жыл бұрын
"while his counterpart ATHENAgorus considered fear of the ATHENians to be unsound" SUS
@pilomalik9696
Жыл бұрын
Let me send you guys my screenplay on Alcibiades. The first season is already written.
@adrianrafaelmagana804
Жыл бұрын
Will there ever be a 1st Punic War series or a serious on the Punic Sicilian wars with this level of detail?
@zodd0001
Жыл бұрын
Syracusan celebrated with an opera invented for the occasion: " Etnee ", but unfortunately it has been lost.
@curranlakhani
Жыл бұрын
The similarities between this battle and the Battle of Dyracchium are too obvious to ignore.....
@Moribus_Artibus
Жыл бұрын
O wisdom-loving Athens! Why let clumsy Alcibiades fool you!? 🦉
@abhishek_sikarwar
Жыл бұрын
RELEASE THE PUNIC WARS SERIES TO NON MEMBERS PLEASE🙏
@paladinbob1236
Жыл бұрын
alcibiades was a little two faced in his deals with boths sides..the supreme politican perhaps? [winks] but loving the series :)
@al-muwaffaq341
Жыл бұрын
Lamachus definitely had the best plan of attack.
@julianmarsh8384
11 ай бұрын
By this time in the war, the Athenians had lost their minds. Sending out three generals each with their own idea of how to engage the enemy, was a bad sign. Especially since one of the three did not even want to be there and another, not trusted by the government. Upon arriving and finding that the promised money did not exist, should have been enough to get the Athenians to reconsider and leave. The Athenian general's letter of gloom and doom sent to Athens, should have been enough for Athens to order everyone off of the island. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
@tamoahmed-h9b
Жыл бұрын
I hope you talk about kurdistan❤☀️💚
@AL_AFGHANI1
Жыл бұрын
Bot
@pimppvevo9225
Жыл бұрын
@kingsandGeneral we need some new ottoman videos and Mongol videos For example the Ottoman 2nd siege of vienna up till now that haven't been cover on a video and how the Ottoman empire took over Crimea
@tamoahmed-h9b
Жыл бұрын
Do you want to talk about kurdistan?☺️
@cagdas135
Жыл бұрын
@@tamoahmed-h9b Do you want to talk about salad?
@JBRAI22
Жыл бұрын
Quick animation mistake at 7:11, someone’s foot is sticking through their shield
@mercenarygundam1487
Жыл бұрын
Murphy's law: military expedition edition
@nomooon
Жыл бұрын
14:14 this is why you bring the best soothsayers, not some half assed soothsayer wannabes who bullshits you.... could've ran away under the cover of eclipse....
@DaHuuudge
Жыл бұрын
Hey Athens: the strong do what they can, and the weak endure what they must. 🤷♂️
@napoleonibonaparte7198
Жыл бұрын
Ancient military strats: Walling. AoE2 was accurate all this time...
@angelagioiosa661
Жыл бұрын
The was a huge disaster for Athens, and then they would have to recover because of the incoming Persians, the Syracusans also suffered their fair share of losses but this was truly a let down for Athens
@TEO14444
Жыл бұрын
THE WALL WAR
@nathanmuluneh6842
Жыл бұрын
Just when I wanted some entertainment. Noice
@rehan3600
Жыл бұрын
Key and Peele
@jjjj-cy3vz
Жыл бұрын
lol. if you think that the united states was humbled in vietnam then you dont know much about the vietnam war. the united states wasnt defeated by enemy forces in vietnam. it was defeated in vietnam by its own people, the american public, that became more and more appalled by the rate at which the united states military was killing off enemy combatants. to give an example, in the la drang campaign 545 americans were killed while the enemy lost somewhere around 3500 men. one of the vietnamese forces most effective weapons when fighting american forces were booby traps they left when retreating. over all casualties in the vietnam war for north vietnam/viet cong: 850,000 military dead 200,000-300,000 military missing 600,000 military wounded U.S. casualties: 58,000 dead 304,000 wounded. it was an extremely one-sided fight in favor of american forces.
@rehan3600
Жыл бұрын
Objective was lost = U.S. lost.
@jjjj-cy3vz
Жыл бұрын
@@rehan3600 again, the united states left of its own choice, not forced to leave by the north vietnamese. winning the war soundly and then deciding to end the war because the american people became horrified by the enemies casualty figures is not a loss, and its far from a humbling.
@TamanskayaDivision
4 ай бұрын
The cope is real
@sumandwivedi2852
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the United States of force was actually established
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