I definitely loved the draft overall. Brian Branch and Brodric Martin are going to make a difference. Plus they added brandon joseph and starling thomas as UDFAs. Lots of talent coming in.
@Will-fk2dk
Жыл бұрын
Bears fan here... I kinda feel like all of the stupid arguments about the Lion's Draft immediately goes away with their selection of Jack Campbell. Because, after that first pick (Gibbs), the Lions CRUSHED it. I mean... CRUSHED it! Every pick after that was either a puck for need at a position or a calculated selection of a Player with enormous upside. Also, there is just no way that the players the Lions got in rounds 3-7 should have been available at the spots they got them!!! Look at how many great picks they got in the later rounds. It was as if all of the other teams just forgot that those players were there! Anyway, overall: B+ And I think they got at least 3, maybe 4 Day One Starters.
@Will-fk2dk
Жыл бұрын
I did want to add one other thing... I do really believe the Lions are going to really, REALLY hate themselves for not picking Michael Mayer. This is just my opinion, but I truly think he becomes the Best TE in the League within the next 3 years. I've watched him for 3 straight years at Notre Dame. He is unstoppable off the line, catches everything within his reach, catches the ball in stride, uses hands well, he can out jump ANY Defensive Back, plus he just gets open in the Red Zone. In addition, he has decent speed and is strong as an Ox! He is a great blocker, too. This was a big missed opportunity
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
I agree they got amazing value on brian branch and others. Its definitely one of the more interesting draft classes in recent memory
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
I do like meyer a lot. He’s got great mitts, can catch in traffic, and stays healthy. Not sure if the lions would have utilized him properly. I like the landing spot for meyer a lot with the raiders.
@stopdroolin8418
Жыл бұрын
@Will-fk2dkd disagree on the Mayer take, go watch LaPortas career highlight film. LaPorta fits the Lions offensive scheme better than Mayer does. LaPorta has guerilla glue on his hands( he literally does not drop the ball), hes great after the catch, highest YAC score of all TEs in this draft, hes a contested catch machine, he can block(he's not perfect there but he will get better 100%). He's got the size, speed, and football IQ to get open at will. And most importantly he was Iowas only real weapon on offense. Opposing teams gameplanned around LaPorta because of it, just like Mayer and Laporta still went off. The Lions will not regret passing on Mayer, not one bit. Could they have taken Mayer, sure, but again he doesn't fit their scheme as well as LaPorta, or he'd be a Lion. Brad Holmes draft history proves we can trust his picks without a doubt.
@VulcanLogic
Жыл бұрын
@@Will-fk2dk I'm not sure. But remember, that evaluation on which one to pick was done by Dan Campbell. That's a guy who was a career tight end. They key is Mayer played for Notre Dame, which had a relatively good offense. The Hawkeyes were 2nd to last in FBS yards per game, and LaPorta still put up good numbers. You swap teams for those guys and Mayer still looks good, but LaPorta almost certainly looks as good or better.
@ScottsTots612
Жыл бұрын
Brad Holmes interviewed 30 players. Only 4 had that IT factor that they wanted. I have no doubt in my mind that Gibbs and Campbell were two of those players.
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
I think gibbs is risky but could be a gamebreaker. Campbell, id be surprised if he wasn’t in the conversation for best middle linebacker in the next few years.
@matthewh8573
Жыл бұрын
@@footballthreat All picks are “risky”.
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewh8573 Ahh, now we are getting into semantics. Love it.
@user-yg1jd6dt1b
Жыл бұрын
@@footballthreat could be a game breaker? Have you not watched his tape?
@michaelotten2724
Жыл бұрын
Gibbs is a generational game changer. He's gonna be lightning to montgomery's thunder. And he catches passes!
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
Good cop bad cop.
@Blutosze
Жыл бұрын
teams were talking about moving up to 15 to take him, including the Chiefs and Bills. multiple reports have came out in the last couple of days. the WR class was so weak that GM's were putting way more value into RB's this year.
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
Loved the Lions draft overall. I feel like I'm getting flamed pretty hard for someone who gave their overall draft a great grade. But yeah, I heard about the reports, but like with anything in NFL media it comes down to who floated it. It's perfectly possible teams were going to draft him, or it was all just a smoke screen to make sure their guys dropped. We don't really know for sure. Also, disagree with you on the receiver class being weak AF. 2019 was supposedly terrible, and then DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Deebo Samuel, and AJ Brown happened. I think a bunch of this year's class will sneak up on everyone.
@brokentubing
Жыл бұрын
Oh, I had to subscribe after this work of art you just pulled off. You gave them an A- so anyone arguing against is made to look simple. Okay then, who would you have picked for the Lions at 12?
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the sub! My bad if it seemed manipulative to you but that wasnt my intention. The reason why i was bringing up the fact that i gave the draft a good grade overall in the comments is because i felt bad for pissing ppl off. It was an olive branch more than anything. As for who i would have taken, i would have stayed at 6 and taken tyree wilson. If youre forcing me to pick at 12, I think i might have went van ness. Or worked out another trade down to take myles murphy or maybe even gibbs if hes still there in this hypothetical scenario.
@brokentubing
Жыл бұрын
@@footballthreat Tyree’s foot problem is too big of a risk. Goff thrived best with Gurley they’re recreating it in a way. You gave the Bears a pass on their first pick because they got other picks but not the Lions?
@addison892
Жыл бұрын
Positional value is a filthy term when you are building a winner. Their reactions when Gibbs fell to them at 12 let me know they got their guy. Honestly, I could give a rat's ass what ANYONE else thinks. All I care about, and I argue, any die hard Lions fan cares about is results. If these people handing out "grades" only saw the list of who was drafted and not the order in which they were drafted, then it would be "A"s across the board. SMH
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
Are you referring to me as one of these people? Cuz I gave them 3 A grades, including an A+. Also, gave the overall draft an A-. I'm definitely a fan of what they did.
@dougwalls6266
Жыл бұрын
Patriots already said they would have taken him at 15, I like the pick got their guy and he's a day one starter.
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
Did they say that? I just saw the rumor. Either way im fine with it. He will end up being good in the lions offense. Overall, really liked their draft.
@mjc-ym9xt
Жыл бұрын
If Gibbs was labeled as a slot WR with 4.36 speed, is it still a D+? Because I see them playing him there almost as much as in the backfield like a Kamara/Deebo
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think it's that easy. I just would have preferred a pass rusher for them. And there were some other intriguing running backs. Still, overall, I really liked the draft. That was the only pick I didn't like. But I can also see him doing well. It's just years later if one of the pass rushers pop off and Gibbs is already out of the league, I'm factoring in. Either way, I think I'm picking the Lions to win the division. I really want to emphasize I'm not anti-Lions here. 😀
@mjc-ym9xt
Жыл бұрын
@@footballthreat gotcha originally I wanted Wilson too but I’m not really a draft guy. And Lions have Hutch, Cominsky, Houston, Harris, Paschal and the Okwaras. So I understand the move of Gibbs/LaPorta over Wilson
@michaelotten2724
Жыл бұрын
@footballthreat by the way Levi Onwuzerike IS HEALTHY..😊
@mjc-ym9xt
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelotten2724 yeah him too but I see him play more 3 tech if he is cleared
@johngoodwin5420
Жыл бұрын
I'm so sick of this, everybody second guessing Brad and team. It's as simple as this. Brad needed and wanted those players that he took in the first 4 picks, so that to finish and complete the team to fit the play schemes they are building, and they were on the Board when it was his pick, so he took them. If he would have picked other players to please some analysts views as to what round they were valued at, then those 4 picks may NOT have been there. Get real people, and get over it!
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
I feel you. You never know when players will be taken. And if you factor in team fit, its often important to reach for players. I did end up giving the lions a very good grade overall. I just wish they added a pass rusher to the good mix they already have. But the offense now looks like it will be very good with gibbs.
@johngoodwin5420
Жыл бұрын
@@footballthreat : We've got 126 days untill the season opener. I can't wait! Brad also minutes after the draft took a dozen or so undrafted players, I see 3 or 4 of them that look really solid, making not just the Practice squad but the team. There were only 2 picks that Brad made that had me scratching my head, but that's only because there was very little out there on the two. They were the OT and DT. Since the draft much more has come out on the two. I think that both are going to be projects but will end up being major contributors. One things for sure, no one can answer the call and the outcome for each of these Players but the Players themselves. This is where character, motivation, determination and drive comes in, that never give up attitude, putting the team ahead of themselves, wanting to build something bigger than Themselves! These qualities and character are what Brad and Dan are looking for, let's wait and see if they've found them in these players?
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
@@johngoodwin5420 For sure man. These draft grade things they aren't supposed to be serious. Just a fun way to talk ball. We truly won't know how good these guys will be until they are on the field. Also, I agree with you on the UDFAs. I really liked the addition of Brandon Joseph, and Starling Thomas. Both those guys should have been draft picks. Shocked they became UDFAs.
@matthewh8573
Жыл бұрын
Another breakdown from somebody who doesn’t understand what’s important to the Lions or who they had on THEIR top 100 board. These post draft grades are as useless as mock drafts.
@footballthreat
Жыл бұрын
Did you watch to the end? Cuz i gave them a verrrrrry good grade. Are you saying they had a terrible draft? Cuz i would have to disagree with that.
@johnnyappleseed6960
Жыл бұрын
The Lions drafted 5 of the Top 47 rated PFF Prospects in the draft... When you really analyze things, that only leaves 42 of the top players spread out amongst the rest of the NFL teams. And, for the Lions to pick players they dont need, because it fits some "Postional Value" narritive is just ludicrous....The Lions are building a Football Team, not trying to get back slaps from some arm-chair, Draft Guru on Television.
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