I think everyone can agree that its amazing that we now have consoles going way above 60fps!
@TheBrennanSchafer
3 жыл бұрын
It took them longer than it should have to get here but of course, it's awesome. My main worry is 95% of console customers (maybe even 99%) don't even have a screen that is capable of above displaying more than 60 fps. And out of those people, 60% don't even realize their TV is essentially "throttling" their consoles' performance and they aren't able to see all that their console can offer.
@NoahThomas29
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrennanSchafer yeah i agree, i don’t have a display capable of 120hz, so im out of luck. My TV is only 4K 60hz. And i won’t have money to upgrade my TV anytime soon.
@Koutsi
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBrennanSchafer Also worth noting that 120fps on 60hz tv is smoother than 80fps on 60hz tv.
@JLuke2oo7
3 жыл бұрын
Well, in 120 fps mode didn't hit 120 once lol (minus one cut scene for 2 seconds on the ps5)
@TheBrennanSchafer
3 жыл бұрын
@Vector G how so?
@slaterbreaker
3 жыл бұрын
Digital foundry doing the business. Back in the day comparison videos were literally views of screenshots...now we get full frame counts, graphs and explanations of how the systems are running. Top quality thank you, keep it up
@naastynas389
3 жыл бұрын
@ThaReal CLo na I cant tell a difference
@zulufucxs1373
3 жыл бұрын
@ThaReal CLo What are you talking about. Lol they literally look the same 😂
@phxbadash
3 жыл бұрын
@ThaReal CLo there is a shadow over the face on the xbox one or it appears that the enemy's head is down. the enemy on the right is also in a different position so it's possible that there is some variance.
@kevinmcdaniel871
3 жыл бұрын
So that 2 tf so gives about 4 frames per second more lmaoooo so much for that Gap
@varno6793
3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinmcdaniel871 2 tf difference? would you agree it makes about as much difference as the SSDs between two systems? ;) and what was the common refrain when XSX was keeping up or surpassing SSD loading times earlier this week from all the fanboys? "wait until the games are optimized!"
@nedasbicenovas9054
3 жыл бұрын
I love how people are fighting over the 5-10 frame differences in 90s, while most have screens which only output 60 hz
@totalprocall6894
3 жыл бұрын
In the voice of vin deisel..."winnings winning"
@Conviction454
3 жыл бұрын
That's no longer true anymore. 120+ hz monitors and TVs are very common now
@playerone2629
3 жыл бұрын
my tv is 55"4k 60 and i'm more than happy with that
@alexkosic1832
3 жыл бұрын
@@Conviction454 120hz TVs are not common. Not at all. lmao
@ryanb1374
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexkosic1832 especially 4k120
@MrCris2021
3 жыл бұрын
Normal mode has higher framerate than the "higher framerate mode" Someone mixed up things when programming that thing lol
@rixzin5046
3 жыл бұрын
Apparently the devs said they weren't used to the new dev tools presented by next gen consoles . There's something weird going on
@oneshoedwonder216
3 жыл бұрын
I think the game will receive a patch that will fix the frame rate
@stefans4562
3 жыл бұрын
I was confused as well. No reason to pick it.
@Kev376
3 жыл бұрын
What an excellent comment.. On another reason PC's are better, thankyou and goodbye.
@Huaie
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kev376 Yeah. But I will get a PS5 anyway, because why not have both? Thank you and goodbye.
@IMan_93_
3 жыл бұрын
And let the true fanboy wars begin....
@shyamkumarsasi3577
3 жыл бұрын
Damn ikr lol but Xbox win this time
@AngeloT2001
3 жыл бұрын
it's pretty much the same thing
@FoxEngineOwO
3 жыл бұрын
@@shyamkumarsasi3577 They’re 99% similar, idk how “Xbox wins”
@sagarkardam9977
3 жыл бұрын
@@AngeloT2001 try explaining that to fanboys lol...
@shyamkumarsasi3577
3 жыл бұрын
@@FoxEngineOwO Xbox is 5-10 fps ahead of ps most of the time
@TheUcHiHaMaD
3 жыл бұрын
*Me watching this at 240p* Ah yes the differences are clear as day.
@nickmotsarsky4382
3 жыл бұрын
So watch at a higher res.
@TheUcHiHaMaD
3 жыл бұрын
@@nickmotsarsky4382 The joke Your head
@antony6913
3 жыл бұрын
I'm watching on poor 4g 1 bar might as well be devil may cry 1
@nickmotsarsky4382
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheUcHiHaMaD Nah. It was just a dumb and played out joke that I've seen a dozen times before.
@saiyanbarber6806
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheUcHiHaMaD your joke is 💩
@LoganWileyZmonsterH77
3 жыл бұрын
Ps5 and Xbox Series X performance is amazing. Good start to next gen
@andremalerba5281
3 жыл бұрын
I think the conclusion here is pretty much what we all expected, the Series X is probably running DX12 and the PS5 is probably running on Vulkan, that's why the PS5 performs much better where the Series X doesn't, we all know pretty much that DX11 and Vulkan runs better than DX12 most of the time. About the Raytracing performance, as we've been told, the way RDNA2 process raytracing is different than Nvidia, instead of having dedicated hardware for it, it's all processed by the CUs, they do both Raster and RT, so we are pretty much comparing: DX12 RT with more CUs vs Vulkan RT with slightly less CUs but overcloked. And now we know that the RT performance of RDNA2 scales better with more CUs than with higher clocks while the Raster performance are pretty even but DX12 hurts more than Vulkan that's why the Series X doesn't blow the PS5 out of the water in Raster performance, as Digital Foundry said "maybe there's something on the API implementation". That's my guess!
@sundarchip
3 жыл бұрын
It's only in performance mode where the PS5 did better, although the gap was larger. In all other modes, the XSX seems to be doing better. The frame rate in performance mode also seems too variable on both consoles to a point where you might as well play it on regular mode.
@anujsansare
3 жыл бұрын
That's a good breakdown. Who knows. Maybe it's weird API's on the Series X, or bad optimisation of the game.
@terencecaron2922
3 жыл бұрын
The conclusion to all these DMC SE videos is : the weak one is not Series X or PS5, its just Capcom. edit : thx for the likes, though comments below show many still don't understand I was talkin about stable framerate, which is absent from every mode, and every console.
@bigseek00
3 жыл бұрын
Here we go with that shit again lol
@LucasCamargo827
3 жыл бұрын
Xbox droped framerate much more times than ps5
@MurphyOCP-001
3 жыл бұрын
Stop blaming devs
@megatechbody3207
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. At least the actual Capcom engine is still optimized for last gen.
@jimbob4372
3 жыл бұрын
How? Both are running 4k at an average of 100 fps without RT...
@muhammadalwi-956
3 жыл бұрын
look at the framerate capture line, they're like fighting eachother
@Takemura76
3 жыл бұрын
Like two DBZ characters flying into and clashing with one another as they fly across miles of land and sea lol
@rainszn545
3 жыл бұрын
Or dancing
@Wogle
3 жыл бұрын
Next-gen version of "Entwined"
@Keivz
3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment!
@jaysmith9683
3 жыл бұрын
Framerate May Cry 6
@monopolybillionaire5027
3 жыл бұрын
It was the console wars that made these console's. Now let's just appreciate the fact that whichever one you buy there both great machines. It's a win for us all
@teelo523
3 жыл бұрын
pc is the true winner
@faisalalmutairi1162
3 жыл бұрын
@@teelo523 is pc console?
@teelo523
3 жыл бұрын
@@faisalalmutairi1162 no but console is pretty much a pc
@faisalalmutairi1162
3 жыл бұрын
@@teelo523 they are different but if you want to compare between them console is the winner in budget with performance way You get 4k 60 frame? With 500(i think 300 dollar with series S but less performance)dollar? And you dont need to build it like pc yea i know you can buy completed build pc but that more expensive probably
@teelo523
3 жыл бұрын
@@faisalalmutairi1162 for new pc users yes, but long term users it's cheap. And pc has waaay more games and free online.
@Pointman11111
3 жыл бұрын
But the xbox fanboys told me all multi plats will be better on xsx bc of 12 tflops...
@reaktorleak89
3 жыл бұрын
Next gen is so good that we're comparing framerates above 60FPS. I'm so happy.
@danielecastagna6644
3 жыл бұрын
Of a previous gen game.
@TDR-0484
3 жыл бұрын
Haha this comment is gold. Took yall until 2020
@DeadPiixxel
3 жыл бұрын
@@TDR-0484 right
@jinx20001
3 жыл бұрын
i mean its good but one its an old game, two... its an old game that once the actual advancements in the tech are being used such as ray tracing your talking about framerates well below 60... unless ofcourse 1080p is your thing, we surely must be past 1080p now though. its a big step up so far for console players no doubt but its still a fair step behind whats available on pc as i guess should be expected considering price differences.
@NoveyBoy
3 жыл бұрын
@@danielecastagna6644 don't talk trash from ps3 to ps4 we did not even get 60fps. Now we are talking about who has more than 100fps :D
@viniciusrodrigues1689
3 жыл бұрын
Finally, so it has begun
@coolsteve1342
3 жыл бұрын
So it was written
@ReLapse85
3 жыл бұрын
And so it was...
@restlessactivity8696
3 жыл бұрын
War never changes
@jasonsmith530
3 жыл бұрын
Mortal kombat movie voice- “IT HAS BEGUN “!
@guybrushthreepwood8174
3 жыл бұрын
Lololol. CONSOLE WAR PHASE 1 activated
@vitalisobidi
3 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for these videos, I honestly couldn't tell the difference
@SuperAstro93
3 жыл бұрын
I love that we get to watch these insights at no cost. Thank you so much!
@psychomoon7185
3 жыл бұрын
I love that ray tracing is not caped to 30fps!
@Skylancer727
3 жыл бұрын
It seems though that's unintentional and they will probably patch it in later as right now the PS5 has no frame rate caps while the Xbox gives the option to limit it. I don't think Capcom will leave it that way.
@momoloco99rh
3 жыл бұрын
1080p tho
@psychomoon7185
3 жыл бұрын
@@momoloco99rh And? Its still impresive. I wish every game with ray tracing has an option to lower the resolution to get more than 30 fps
@DjLakey-S
3 жыл бұрын
Dropping from 60 to somewhere near 40 then jumping to 60 again would look worse than a locked 30 though.
@ByteSizedSociety
3 жыл бұрын
"No capes!"
@KIGamin_
3 жыл бұрын
So long story short both consoles are freaking beasts! happy gaming everyone!!!
@comedylongpantsgamer3608
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@magnum3.14
3 жыл бұрын
@@teamdoa A lot better than my PC haha :)
@harlenkelly7331
3 жыл бұрын
@@teamdoa I lot better than my $1300 pc. I am curious to know what PC you have?
@TheBhappyboy1986
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah my 1300€ pc is way weaker
@DavisFury
3 жыл бұрын
gonna buy both, i'm a lucky man lets enjoy greatness on both
@blitzinfo9366
3 жыл бұрын
PS5 = similar perfomance + faster loading times + cheaper + better exclusives😍
@psygnozis
3 жыл бұрын
And better controller
@Reactor10k
3 жыл бұрын
The PS5 doesn’t have faster loading times for many games... the Series X has been shown to load things faster. Plus, Gamepass, so the PS5 isn’t exactly cheaper. Love both consoles but just wanted to throw this comment in here...
@g3neralcross911
3 жыл бұрын
Shitter storage too.
@Reactor10k
3 жыл бұрын
@NamesAreForLosers You might be right about that... but the Series X is holding its own just fine.
@mikesa9325
3 жыл бұрын
Ps5 all the way,can't wait for those exclusives
@dextersbeard3472
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the Video 1080p so we can't even get an idea what the game properly looks like. You put out 4k content all the time. Why would you limit it when it's necessary to see what the game actually looks like?
@RoNdOAk47
3 жыл бұрын
Having a 4k TV that is only 60hz make me happy knowing everything on both consoles will be great
@Archivist42
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, frame rates may be unstable if you got a 120hz screen but we'll just enjoy an unflinching 60 which I'm very happy with!
@jimbob4372
3 жыл бұрын
@@Archivist42 you're going to need VRR or Adaptive-Sync to smooth it out with 120 Hz. I'm yet to believe ANY next gen came will be able to sustain a locked 120fps
@Archivist42
3 жыл бұрын
@@jimbob4372 Funny you say that, I just bought an adaptive sync screen but not for 120fps. I've been playing AC Valhalla on Series X which looks nice but OMG it has some of the worse screen tearing I've seen on any console. It's basically demanding you get a freesync screen
@TheRedRaven_
3 жыл бұрын
@@Archivist42 Screen tearing on Series X? Lol what mode are you playing in? Should be able to handle 4k/60, I guess we’ll wait for the DF video on that.
@Archivist42
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRedRaven_ It turns out it's actually a dynamic 4K (& yes this was revealed very last minute), and it's 60fps in the open world but when I walked into the first village the screen tearing started. Apparently FreeSync cleans that right up though, and tbh it's about time I upgraded my screen
@HELLOBOY999
3 жыл бұрын
X better in 4K 5 better in 1080p Capcom worse in optimization
@samdenisse2705
3 жыл бұрын
This is the comment.
@jitensi
3 жыл бұрын
So we spending 500 bucks for 1080?
@rwest1966
3 жыл бұрын
You saved me 15 minutes
@The98xander
3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they patch both versions for closer locks at 120 fps
@farscape1714
3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy for that..
@kikayei
3 жыл бұрын
I’m happy with 4K/60 fps.
@kikayei
3 жыл бұрын
@Luiz Miguel I was talking about what I’ll be happy with in general. I don’t care about “Watchdogs Legions”.
@comdrive3865
3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy with 2k/60
@kikayei
3 жыл бұрын
@@comdrive3865 I’m happy with that, too.
@bapbaj1389
3 жыл бұрын
@Luiz Miguel who even plays legion. It's the most ubisoft game yet. The water Physics is broken, story is bland, gameplay is the same, character models are the same, its the pinnacle of a basic ubisoft game. Its shit all round
@extreme123dz
3 жыл бұрын
@Luiz Miguel im happy with 720p 30fps and ultra low setting -50% less scaling :)
@yurpcrusher123
3 жыл бұрын
Coding + optimization and advantages of each console equals this review. We all win
@TheManOnTheHill
3 жыл бұрын
"This game is unplayable.. it only runs at 95fps!"
@mkzwrld7641
3 жыл бұрын
😅
@louisbloom4088
3 жыл бұрын
pc gamers summed up
@sugo8479
3 жыл бұрын
no but for real when a games dips to like 90 fps it feels like it's in slow motion, I usually turn down settings to get a more consistant frame rate so let's hope devs will do the same on these new consoles
@teehundeart
3 жыл бұрын
@@sugo8479 consistency is what's important. A 40 or 50fps dip is definitely noticable even when you are still running high framerates. A locked 60fps would solve that issue
@antioch4019
3 жыл бұрын
Console gamers will now know why pc gamers whine on dips to high frames like 95fps. ;) Running at 144+ that is pretty common on pc and dropping to 95 is a huge deal. It's the percentage of frames suddenly dropped that is the issue and noticable despite the frames at the low point still being very high and far beyond what consoles could do before. Another pc feature they should implement on console is the ability to freely lock the framerate. So if the game runs at 95ish avarage they should be able to lock it at 90 to almost never have dips yet still retain as many frames as possible. Currently it seems it is either free up to 120, 60 or 30 on some games, if it's there at all.
@White_Hawk
3 жыл бұрын
So despite John saying not to take away any sort of judgement on where these consoles fall from this video, the entire comments section is full of judgement on where these consoles fall. Just another day in the Console Wars I suppose.
@vaguedreams
3 жыл бұрын
Most that I have read were shit talking Capcom and their ability to optimize.
@heros.1843
3 жыл бұрын
lol that's because John is a playstation fan girl..
@MorrisseyMuse
3 жыл бұрын
@@heros.1843 as opposed to everyone else on this channel and most of the commenting kids who are Xbox fanboys? The type of person who would prefer to count 2 extra fps than 2 less seconds of loading time lol
@deviouslaw
3 жыл бұрын
@@MorrisseyMuse The correct answer is that they're both negligible.
@pcoverconsolelul9320
3 жыл бұрын
4:31 🤣🤣🤣
@tonystank2027
3 жыл бұрын
I am truly hoping that ALL next-gen games in the future offer this many options. 1080p to 2160p, 30fps to 120fps with and without ray-tracing. Makes a game really feel worth $70.
@77dris
7 ай бұрын
2024 here... nope.
@fenixa2z936
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a wash.... 🙌🏻 Play on whatever console you love! Me, I like the PS exclusives and the new controller is amazing!
@acmello5920
3 жыл бұрын
"The bomb has been planted"
@ac3toni
3 жыл бұрын
Terrorists Win
@GUSLOL161
3 жыл бұрын
No. PS5 win. cut the crap.
@Prioz__
3 жыл бұрын
@@GUSLOL161 its 2-2 as far as this game goes xbox wins in normal 4k mode and raytracing where as ps5 wins in high frame rate mode and loading time GG
@rashadussery4028
3 жыл бұрын
@@Prioz__ 3-2 look at the coloring difference on the series x vs ps5
@bill1682
3 жыл бұрын
Overtime switching sides
@TheLastDaysOfSorrow
3 жыл бұрын
Next gen is here, boys. Whether you're on the XSS, XSX or PS5 - have a blast and enjoy the ride.
@phutureproof
3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you pal but I already see salty kids that need to belong have entered the arena.
@ownagemaximus5567
3 жыл бұрын
Xbox really seems to have rebounded from the Xbox one with the series X but both are great consoles for the price. Wars are pointless.
@Onikirimaru231
3 жыл бұрын
Facts! Exciting times are coming. Both consoles are amazing!
@floatinggoose9197
3 жыл бұрын
Getting both eventually
@KrizzyBlakc
3 жыл бұрын
@@ownagemaximus5567 I happen to think both consoles are great. the only reason I didn't buy the Xbox Series X is because I have a High End Gaming PC and I have 2 Xbox Elite controllers with it. So PS5 is my only option for the exclusives. Either way I win. If I didn't have a PC I would definitely buy the Xbox Series X too. All this stupid console war shit needs to end. They are both beautiful machines.
@mr.penguin4614
3 жыл бұрын
all just comes down to optimization and how the devs want to go about it on different hardware.
@IndiaGamingTimes
3 жыл бұрын
Whatever the softwares the consoles use.. you can't just ignore the 20% more powerful hardware of XSX.. The devs are still working on using the entire power of new gen consoles for the new titles so a difference of 10-15 fps now indicate that Xbox Series X might be more future proof than Sony & can handle the higher fps and resolution better in future titles which will use the consoles' hardware to the max potential.
@brunonkowalski
3 жыл бұрын
as for now ps5 beats xsx in every new title. That's a fact
@IndiaGamingTimes
3 жыл бұрын
@@brunonkowalski maybe but I guess a true comparison can be done when more 3rd party titles come common on both consoles. 😀
@brunonkowalski
3 жыл бұрын
@@IndiaGamingTimes true.
@user-fu4lx5fo9s
3 жыл бұрын
Away from the console war, that's really impressive performance for a 400/500$ hardware.
@iDTecKt
3 жыл бұрын
Not bad for locked hardware
@ShoTheEmcee
3 жыл бұрын
all hail AMD
@troelembiid6970
3 жыл бұрын
@Chandu More like 700 and 600 with taxes
@nathanferrell8270
3 жыл бұрын
@referral madness wtf
@IntelligentProbe
3 жыл бұрын
Very Impressive... sure a PC with all the latest hardware will crush either console, but at quadruple the price... roughly. And the amount of peole who have usable 120hz displays that play consoles only is probably few and far between. PS5 needs 60fps lock full stop.
@claridagio
3 жыл бұрын
Love how Rich always finds the signoff bit at the end hysterical.
@InputArchive
3 жыл бұрын
It always seems to be with John, he gets all giddy at the end of every video with him lol
@iKatOverLord
3 жыл бұрын
🤠🤠
@krazyfrog
3 жыл бұрын
John: Thanks for joining me Rich Richard: 😂😂😂
@caiosouza8172
3 жыл бұрын
I think that, a last gen game, optimized for next gen, would not really run that great as a game developed for next gen. We know for sure that xbox is more powerful, so that is why it runs the game better at actual HQ modes. The API for PS5 is amazing, so making game optimized for it is is way easier. Simple explanation really.
@TH3M00NMAN
3 жыл бұрын
Looks really good on Series X and runs quite smooth which is what I own so looking forward to this game
@vulture0069
3 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy about consoles going above 60 fps for the first time Edit:woah, I said above, thanks for the likes
@tounsi_m7ashesh
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh all consoles had 60fps games it all depends on dev's skills
@tavonlewis2629
3 жыл бұрын
@@tounsi_m7ashesh he said ABOVE
@olirav00
3 жыл бұрын
@referral madness which console games went above 60 fps before this new generation? Name me 2
@ronniejames5444
3 жыл бұрын
@@olirav00 Doom, uncharted, gran turismo, fifa... There's a massive list of games running on 60fps on ps4. You can check on google since i don't have a full day to type them all. None above 60fps thought
@joselema85
3 жыл бұрын
people...... he said above 60!!! not hitting 60. there are a handful of games on ps4 pro and xbox one x that hits 60 consistently. Hes just happy that now were going 'above' 60
@rafaelsantos1068
3 жыл бұрын
As expected, the differences in third party titles will be negligible like it always has been, so buy your preferred console and enjoy a new generation
@veloce5491
3 жыл бұрын
its a badly optimized japanese game. it doesnt take advantage of series x features like variable rate shading.
@adrianhosein7698
3 жыл бұрын
@@veloce5491 it actually does use vrr here and as they said the vrr couldn't even help it.
@deviouslaw
3 жыл бұрын
@@adrianhosein7698 VRR is not variable rate shading.
@LatinLegacyNY
3 жыл бұрын
@@basedplants He's not wrong though. The Series X GPU is vastly superior and supports stuff that the PS5'S GPU does not. DX12 ultimate for example. This is just a case of the game not being optimized properly for the console.
@nekro9119
3 жыл бұрын
@@veloce5491 You've learned a new term but you don't even know what it means. In order to use VRR, your tv needs to support hdmi 2.1, basically only a number of models in 2020 support that but there are still a number of issues with it. For example on the LG CX it raises gamma. VRR is a non factor this year
@dangiambrone7350
3 жыл бұрын
It's incredible how so many are jumping to conclusions; making proclamations about the two systems (in their infancy, running on early drivers) on the basis of one game, a last gen game, a launch game, a multi plat game; one that hasn't been built from the ground up to fully take advantage of each consoles exotic new hardware. It'll take a long time and numerous games before we can truly gauge the differences between the two.
@SlimShinoda19
3 жыл бұрын
The background game music. . .it's the beautiful operatic part of Devils Never Cry.
@santiagolambruschini1058
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly i'm more interested on how will perform the series s. We all know what can offer both PS5 and XSX.
@NM-qd3tm
3 жыл бұрын
If I had to guess, it will run at 1080p on the series S and will likely hold 60+ fps on frame rate mode, and 45-60 on quality mode.
@concil1
3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you are buying a series S these numbers don’t really mean anything to you , the console doesn’t have a competitor
@frankiesslipal3730
3 жыл бұрын
One targets 4k the other 1440p or 2k res, it's literally the same... No changes at all on the quality, only the res.
@mrreece8986
3 жыл бұрын
Well said 👍 probably be the best performance out of all console's now that would be funny 😁
@goldensperm7182
3 жыл бұрын
@@frankiesslipal3730 nahh wait for future open world demanding games. Resolution will not the only thing they will tone down, but the visual graphics as well.
@Ccodebits
3 жыл бұрын
Compare to PC with similar specs. The performance of these $500 machines is truly amazing.
@dog-jk2hn
3 жыл бұрын
This game in particular runs fantastically well on PC in general. While you aren't likely to get a ray tracing capable GPU with a $500 budget, performance in the non RT modes would be very similar or slightly better with any carefully configured $500 PC.
@someman8772
3 жыл бұрын
@@dog-jk2hn These consoles are comparable to 2080/2080Ti; no way a $500 machine is going to have comparable performance without significantly paring back graphical fidelity.
@marciodasilva6920
3 жыл бұрын
@@dog-jk2hn 🤣🤣🤣🤣 $500 PC running with this quality? Are you buying stolen PC's?
@hellsing0999999999
3 жыл бұрын
@@someman8772 A 2080TI will BLOW AWAY a PS5 or Xbox SEX, no reason to make such unfair comparisons towards consoles.
@alemdevp2048
3 жыл бұрын
@@someman8772 ur wrong man. It's more like a 2060 or 2060 super I think
@_J2C
3 жыл бұрын
Love the background music choice
@i3l4ckskillzz79
3 жыл бұрын
Give me locked 60fps and I'm happy enough.
@kidShibuya
3 жыл бұрын
it's time to stop reading comments...
@_doop8257
3 жыл бұрын
Yes lol
@dbcooper409
3 жыл бұрын
It's sad people cant just enjoy the new generation without trying to beat down the "other one"
@thischannelhasaclevername5481
3 жыл бұрын
@@dbcooper409 like they have shares in either company or something
@dbcooper409
3 жыл бұрын
@@thischannelhasaclevername5481 right??
@floydland3509
3 жыл бұрын
I think they should have their comments turned off.
@Mega0003000
3 жыл бұрын
Both of these versions aren’t very stable! I expected more from capcom.
@nickmotsarsky4382
3 жыл бұрын
"Run terribly". You, Sir, do not know the meaning of that.
@halo3boy1
3 жыл бұрын
nice bait
@l1nked548
3 жыл бұрын
@@nickmotsarsky4382 I mean he’s got a point, they’re supposed to be 120 fps modes and their both dropping around 30 frames in scenarios
@ashutoshmaraj4881
3 жыл бұрын
Well. They've chose funny methods going about constructing the different modes as DF said themselves. Definitely not terrible though lol
@Big_Daddy953
3 жыл бұрын
@@l1nked548 Those are pre rendered cutscenes capped at 30fps. It's not on hardware.
@mikemuponda1781
3 жыл бұрын
The altar of Teraflops was built on shaky grounds indeed
@987001
3 жыл бұрын
A poorly optimized XSX version of the game still edging out the PS5 version which is better optimized... Sounds like the altar is doing just fine on the ground it's on.
@veneratedmortal4369
3 жыл бұрын
This game is more CPU bound everywhere. It will be interesting too see a 30fps cap game and detail levels.
@wilda4618
3 жыл бұрын
It is true that is why in performance mode the PS5 has better FPS, since the reading speed of the PS5 CPU is higher than that of Xbox.
@EVPointMaster
3 жыл бұрын
@@wilda4618 that doesn't make sense. The Series X CPU runs at a higher frequency than the PS5 CPU
@YT-CesarB
3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the Demon’s Souls breakdown
@AskyuhmodaTT
3 жыл бұрын
Me neither, that and Miles Morales will be the only time ps5 can pull a dub 🤣🤣
@cr0c0d1l
3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the DOOM 3 or Elder Scrolls 6 breakdown
@technoviking2415
3 жыл бұрын
@@AskyuhmodaTT you sound like an xbox fanboy
@technoviking2415
3 жыл бұрын
@@cr0c0d1l you sound like a fanboy to
@XxT0kY0DrfTstYlExX
3 жыл бұрын
@@cr0c0d1l Wait for another 5 years🤣
@teero121
3 жыл бұрын
Man what a time. Seeing the fps on your analysis graph range from 40 to 120 is awesome. While I am primarily on PC, I really hope that 60 fps is going to be the bare minimum in this generation, with optional "quality" modes that offer Raytracing/4K30.
@nathanpickering6742
3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much what it's like right now. Demon's souls has an optional quality mode at 4k 30 and performance mode at dynamic 4k 60.
@paul1979uk2000
3 жыл бұрын
It would be great if that was the case but I suspect 30fps will become the norm in time, especially as the PC pulls ahead. Still, 60fps should be a standard by now.
@nathanpickering6742
3 жыл бұрын
@@paul1979uk2000 30fps was already the norm with PS4 and Xbox one. 60fps is the main goal of ps5 atleast as a standard. Most games on the new consoles have a 60fps performance mode so far, or 120fps. 30 is for max quality and ray tracing.
@paul1979uk2000
3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanpickering6742 I hope you are right, it would make console gaming better and would also make PC gaming cheaper as they wouldn't have to double up the frame rate, but history tents to show that they start out well but then in time settle at 30fps once they start to push the visuals again, I suspect that could be the case with the PS5 and Xbox Series X. I think what could make it much worse this time is that a real war is building up in the PC space with AMD, Intel and Nvidia, that is likely going to push progress and lower prices that I suspect the next gen consoles will need a mid cycle refresh to keep up even more than this gen needed. There's a fair chance over the next few years, PC gamers could see some massive performance gains and some big price slashing thanks to AMD competing in the high end for both cpu's and gpu's.
@SnPSFan
3 жыл бұрын
Dear DF, you guys rock as always! Another interesting face-off I would like to see - input latency difference between the two consoles, please :)
@amneetsingh9159
3 жыл бұрын
It’s grt to see that just the raw power is not that imp it’s the overall integration and optimisation of the console . Grt video !
@ruxis8179
3 жыл бұрын
All comes down to optimization in the end man, as it always does Regardless which console you buy, you're going to get an awesome experience
@EndomouEnd
3 жыл бұрын
Wait for it..... Those fanboys gonna go brrrr
@joeallen7172
3 жыл бұрын
xbox gpu is about 15% more powerful however the ps5 is easier to develop for.
@whatsup7690
3 жыл бұрын
@@joeallen7172 you dont know shit about which is easier to develop on.
@alpha6games751
3 жыл бұрын
@@joeallen7172 the way the ssd is working with the gpu and cpu is why the ps5 is punching above its weight. People thought power on a piece of paper was going to create some drastic difference in performance and didn’t want to believe that the architecture in the PS five lets the CPU and GPU relax and still kick the same performance. What’s interesting is when you switch both games to performance mode the PS five is running at a significantly higher frame rate.
@infinitybelt
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and we have an example of this optimization on PS5 with Miles Morales loading in a mere 7 seconds and Demon Souls looking almost identical to its native 4K mode in its performance, and that's not even scratching the surface imo. It'll be interesting to see the comparisons when we get full fledged built from the ground up games for each console that fully utilize the hardware.
@Archivist42
3 жыл бұрын
WoW they are so close! Bravo to both engineering teams for the consoles I think!
@chordkeys
3 жыл бұрын
We told the xbots that multiplats will run similar. Now these bots are quiet lolz
@darkwowpg
3 жыл бұрын
@@chordkeys Who are we, who are xbots?
@YT-hy2is
3 жыл бұрын
@@darkwowpg The little turds that spread misinformation to distract you from the fact that they have warts on their genetalia.
@MegaFinalRound
3 жыл бұрын
Xbox is better. Offers 60hz mode.
@fendykurniawan3614
3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaFinalRound STOP SPAMMING BOT XBOX SUCKS
@lorenamondragon5693
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty hilarious that the first next gen game was Devil May Cry 5. DMC 4 was also one of the first next gen games that looked great.
@mattuiop
3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know if certain multiplatform games that are owned by either Sony or Microsoft would specifically design their game engines to work ever so slightly better on their parent owned console and slightly slower on their competitor consoles...
@jhblake123
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that would happen as they are trying to sell their games to both systems. If one is worse intentionally, it will spread all over the internet faster than COVID. Then you got yourself a controversy and a bunch of law suits.
@Nate_S
3 жыл бұрын
@@jhblake123 I 100% disagree, respectfully. Both companies like to pay for exclusivity rights, whether timed, dlcs, or full on exclusive but that's where they get the attention (since that's who pays them). Which is why some games show gameplay on a specific console even if the other one might be an edge stronger .. just how I feel
@dumdum93
3 жыл бұрын
KZitem seriously needs to start supporting 120 FPS videos with this new console generation.
@KokahZ777
3 жыл бұрын
No it doesnt it takes up more space on servers
@UltimateAlgorithm
3 жыл бұрын
@@KokahZ777 just limit 120FPS to 1080p, the same as 4K60 in terms of data size.
@leonfrancis3418
3 жыл бұрын
Its should. Most high end phones worth a damn even support a 120 hz refresh.
@leonfrancis3418
3 жыл бұрын
@@KokahZ777 Oh no. How will Google ever cover the expense?
@matts9240
3 жыл бұрын
So basically the game runs great on both which means everyone wins.
@johansjogren7817
3 жыл бұрын
Well...it runs bad on both systems, haha. It's still so early on but it was kind of funny
@StogieSmokinFool
3 жыл бұрын
Buy the ps5 digital and you also save $100. Double win.
@NickthaGeek
3 жыл бұрын
@@StogieSmokinFool ps5 digital is an urban myth.
@VishisTV
3 жыл бұрын
@@johansjogren7817 depends on what your definition of bad is. not everyone is gonna cry about dips over 60fps
@kraithaywire
3 жыл бұрын
@@StogieSmokinFool PS5 digital is a worse deal IMO. No physical games to rent/borrow is a huge disadvantage.
@therealfodder
3 жыл бұрын
Round of applause for the outro scene editing!
@wile123456
3 жыл бұрын
12:32 console fanboys: "No. I don't think I will"
@AMV_KINGDOM_mv
3 жыл бұрын
To war we go
@tsorakin
3 жыл бұрын
I'm very much looking forward to the Assassin's Creed analysis.
@stevefox8108
3 жыл бұрын
Especially on series s
@route77productions
3 жыл бұрын
@@stevefox8108"El Analista Del Bits" did it and no joke on Series S Assassin's Creed Valhalla runs at Dynamic 4K
@stevefox8108
3 жыл бұрын
@@route77productions but why not 1440/60? Will they have an update for it? What do you think?
@marcelorrios8689
3 жыл бұрын
@@stevefox8108 i think 1080p 60 is more realistic, since it's open world.
@KurtisDickson
3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to that comparison also, game looks and runs amazing on series X, had to stop at some moments and grab screenshots.
@unfeelingss5178
3 жыл бұрын
This is like a beyblade battle
@devinforman8213
3 жыл бұрын
Let's BeyBlade!!!
@thedarkpoop1
3 жыл бұрын
If I can get Kai bitbeast im in... LOL
@somedude4122
3 жыл бұрын
Let it rip!! Hell yeah, brought back some memories
@syreemills1553
3 жыл бұрын
@@somedude4122 hear me out a beyblade game on ps5 with ray tracing huh anyone
@somedude4122
3 жыл бұрын
@@syreemills1553 Hell fucking yeah. The OG beys better be in
@8eege
3 жыл бұрын
I'm interested to see what more comes out about the XSX API being tougher to work with rumors. Hopefully they can sort it out.
@chakkra69
3 жыл бұрын
You would think that DF would be the first site to make download comparisons in multiple games. I wonder what exactly are they waiting for?
@soraaoixxthebluesky
3 жыл бұрын
AMD: “This is not our final form yet”
@pcgameboy8407
3 жыл бұрын
AMD has finally started a price war on PC. Nvidia has no choice but to drop price to compete. Which AMD will answer to as well. We may see PC become more affordable due to competition.
@yurifurtado1955
3 жыл бұрын
@@pcgameboy8407 in my country brazil if i search for hardware in some Sales i can actually make an pc with the same specs and cheapper than the consoles but i think thats because initially the consoles had a 100% of taxes in their prices now i think its 80% but still high as fuck
@ShadowRomeo1784
3 жыл бұрын
@@pcgameboy8407 They already did way before RDNA 2 with RTX 30 series. Everyone was expecting they are gonna be more expensive than RTX 20 series and then Jensen dropped the $700 RTX 3080 that outperforms the more expensive $1200 2080 TI and $500 RTX 3070 that performs the same or even better for less than half the price. Competition is indeed a good thing, i hope AMD keeps lighting Nvidia's ass more.
@lycanthoss
3 жыл бұрын
@@pcgameboy8407 why would nvidia drop prices? It is on equal ground with AMD. It has no reason to drop prices.
@pcgameboy8407
3 жыл бұрын
@@lycanthoss and has a bit more powerful than the RTX series and Is cheaper... AMD has a card equivalent to the 3090 fir $500 less.. their card a bit more powerful than the 3080 is $50 less.
@imperialshroom
3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, and what I’m taking is that both systems are worth buying. Thats great!
@nealboodram872
3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I did lol
@sheyarjames4904
3 жыл бұрын
For real, having consoles power enough to let the developers give console players the options like quality mode, performance, Ray tracing...etc is what we have been waiting for for ages, seeing both Consoles doing 100+fps on its own has made me really happy and it feels like a legit next generation compared to Ps3 to Ps4...
@zaac408
3 жыл бұрын
Wise choice
@halmyrach
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's pretty cool to see no major flaws on either side, it will be up to each gamer to choose depending of their favorite ecosystems and exclusive games. We can't ask for more than a healthy competition on the software side :) Happy gaming everyone!
@GUSLOL161
3 жыл бұрын
No. PS5 win. cut the crap.
@kc-me6wl
3 жыл бұрын
Can we have more comparison videos like this between ps5 vs series X? COD cold war next? Genuinely keen to see if the series X is actually utilizing all of that extra power (if at all). As looking at this vid seems to be something holding the seriesX back... More importantly keen for this to inform which console to buy games on... (Especially cp2077). thanks
@tekmachina
3 жыл бұрын
My Series X keeps hard crashing on both RT modes. I don't understand why.
@zodiark2456
3 жыл бұрын
most likely its faulty hardware
@tekmachina
3 жыл бұрын
@@zodiark2456 sent my console in for warranty hopefully it’s hardware
@theviruswithin6072
3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a assassins creed Valhalla comparison.
@kurtisrb1403
3 жыл бұрын
It isn’t properly optimised for ps5
@francesco8320
3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtisrb1403 same with series x, neither of both run that shit at real 4k, only dynamic 4k
@kurtisrb1403
3 жыл бұрын
@@francesco8320 it runs native 4k on series x ...atleast that’s what I heard if not Ubisoft needs to up there game!!! They are a pretty lazy company though...
@maxminy5634
3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtisrb1403 this was the argument that ps5 is upscaled 4k while series x is native 4k. After seeing gears of war 5, and now this comparison, and pc performance for Valhalla. I would place a strong wager on both being dynamic 4k 60 with only a minor average difference in resolution in favour of the series x.
@kazum9746
3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtisrb1403 Source?
@kingaware778
3 жыл бұрын
So the big takeaway is capcom did a sketchy job optimizing the game on both consoles to rush out and be avaliable day 1. People don't like it. But its fine to pull a cyberpunk and work on the game for an extra few weeks.
@mikelramirez9003
3 жыл бұрын
From what I can tell, Capcom really didn't give the dev team much time or budget.
@theanimerapper6351
3 жыл бұрын
But cyberpunk won't run nearly as good as this game. 4k 100fps is sketchy optimization?
@legros731
3 жыл бұрын
@@theanimerapper6351 yes Its poor optimization it all over the place it really not good you need stable fps not a roller-coaster
@theanimerapper6351
3 жыл бұрын
@@legros731 vrr
@AFourEyedGeek
3 жыл бұрын
@@theanimerapper6351 VRR not available on PS5, Capcom knows that and should have added the option for a 60fps cap. As the video discussed.
@sanishnaik2040
4 ай бұрын
The dmc3 background music brought back memories
@dontmindme3332
3 жыл бұрын
Got myself the Xbox. This thing is so fast it's blowing my mind
@salah_alhashedi
3 жыл бұрын
I'm very curious to see how they'll compare a year or 2 from now when developers learn to utilize the hardware to its full potential.
@SalveMonesvol
3 жыл бұрын
From my experience on PC: Ps5 will be better when it comes to reaching 1080p 120HZ since it has a smaller GPU with higher clocks, while Xbox will be on par @1440p60 (medium frame rate and resolution) and about 10% ahead @4k. Anyway, in the long run we will mostly see 1440p nicely upscaled to 4k @60fps. When running native 1440p without the upscaling, they should be on par, when running upscaled 4k the Xbox will inch ahead thanks to bandwidth. Also, multi platform games from smaller studios that can't afford extensive developpment times are likely to run UP TO 15% better on Xbox @native 4k.
@giokkko
3 жыл бұрын
@@SalveMonesvolyou seem to know your stuff so i'm just gonna ask... Do you think crossplatform games will look better on XBOX, thanks to its hardware advantage? (i don't really care about FPS since my screen only goes up to 60, i'm talking about details etc.)
@CrazyGamesMinecraft
3 жыл бұрын
@@giokkko As a developer, I can say that it depends on how many tasks can be done in parallel. The XSX has lower clocks (the tasks take longer) but has more cores (there can be more tasks in parallel). Higher resolution is without a doubt going to benefit the XSX. Shaders are also always done on as many cores as possible. That means most light effects, material effects, water and terrain effects, transformations and much more. But a shader that is implented poorly is going to result in the task taking longer and therefore stalling all the other cores, which then therefore can't proceed (I've dealt with that countless times. Especially a problem on mobile). In that case, higher clocks would certainly be of an advantage. But nonetheless, assuming that the devs did a good job, the XSX might be able to show (slightly) more advanced effects than PS5 at a resolution of 1440P assuming the same performance target. On higher res however, the advantage of XSX becomes more evident. But I'll tell you this: Devs don't deal with stuff like that 99% of the time. It comes down to how well the API that they use to develop their games allocates the given tasks to different cores. A good API is key here, which might take some time. Therefore, I think that the XSX's advantage is going to get more significant with time.
@giokkko
3 жыл бұрын
@@CrazyGamesMinecraft Thank you for taking the time to answer. It's all a bit clearer now. I guess on a 1080p 60Hz screen it all goes down to which ecosystem you like more in terms of exclusives and services. I think an untrained eye like mine won't really notice substantial differences in graphics lol
@makas61sd60
3 жыл бұрын
@@CrazyGamesMinecraft i only care about high frame rate mode, i dont need 2k 4k or raytracing. 1080p 120fps is what i want. So which one do i have to buy, ps5 or xsx ?
@bobjbob
3 жыл бұрын
The fact these consoles are running higher frame rate then 60 during gameplay is insane and hopefully means good things to come
@shanekrauchi2465
3 жыл бұрын
YES! Let us not be too caught up in our war to be happy when we both come ahead.
@EyefyourGf
3 жыл бұрын
It's a fucking Devil may Cry 5 game that came in 2019 why the fuck wouldn't it run more then 60 frames,wait for the games that actually push xbox or ps5 then we talk,you will be playing games that will run 30 frames only mark my fucking word,in a year or two.
@SENPAI.Popaii
3 жыл бұрын
@@EyefyourGf depends from developer to developer. ubisoft/ea? sure... developers that put passion and time in their games? 60fps 4k.
@ajaakola2
3 жыл бұрын
@@EyefyourGf will be 60 most likely with people getting used to 60 or higher and ofc its gonna drop down some as they need to push new visual etc! Still not liking it but can you do
@LuisLopez-hp3cf
3 жыл бұрын
I love playstation. The Ps2 was my favorite one. When I saw the Ps5 I wasn't crazy about it. I did pick up an xbox series x. Honestly, its pretty good. I haven't had an xbox but I support both consoles. Stop the console war. Let's all game on!
@nereus246
3 жыл бұрын
Me too I love ps2 and also grew up with PlayStation. But got myself the Series X which is coming hopefully in a few days. I just like game pass and backwards compatibility. Also the design was more for me. Probably will buy the Ps5 slim in a few years.
@LuisLopez-hp3cf
3 жыл бұрын
@@nereus246 For sure! Looking forward to the redesign models. You will enjoy the game pass. I have no regrets picking up the series X. I wish I only had more time to sit down and play. Nowadays I'm a husband and a father. No longer the kid that sits and plays all day with no worries. Take care of yourself.
@gustavoalmeida1579
3 жыл бұрын
The explanation for higher frame on Performance mode on PS5 is actually simple, the lower graphical demand on this mode is easier to be scaled on higher clock speeds than in multiple CUs, clock speed is the easiest way to get more performance in old software, that's the reason why the RTX 3080 and 3090 scale so poorly in 1440p or 1080p in comparison to 4k.
@raffitchakmakjian
3 жыл бұрын
Capcom May Cry: It Hertz Edition
@AchieveMania358
3 жыл бұрын
underrated comment
@Kryptix0III
3 жыл бұрын
The PS5 version is at the same resolution and RT quality as Xbox Series X and the PS5 version is 40fps ahead in the 120fps mode or just a couple of fps behind in the native 4K mode. Also, the PS5 has faster load times compared to Xbox Series X. What happened to the 12 Tflops, Full RDNA 2 and Velocity Architecture 🐢 🤣🤣
@MegaFinalRound
3 жыл бұрын
Trade blows on performance. But Xbox offers 60hz locked mode. It’s the better version.
@KristofferRisanger
3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaFinalRound The Xbox feature is still quite annoying though, as you need to go into system settings and switch hertz manually every time you switch between this game and another game that actually manages fluid 120hz. Capcom should implement a framerate lock option.
@victhebrickgaming2227
3 жыл бұрын
The PS5 is a juddery mess!
@MegaFinalRound
3 жыл бұрын
@@KristofferRisanger still is better. Also most multiple platform games will probably not hit locked 120hz on PS5/SeriesX. Hopefully the locked 60hz will be offered by PS5.
@dragonblueprt33
3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaFinalRound Sony can add that with an update in the future I suppose, so not that big of a problem
@matthewchandler8255
3 жыл бұрын
I'm of the opinion that they both look pretty damn good, and both run really well... I hope both consoles succeed, competition is good for us all (I will eventually have both)
@XXX_JiaYangGuiZi
3 жыл бұрын
I would feel lucky to get my hands on any one of these consoles this year. Non of them are really available this year.
@SovetskieSoldat
3 жыл бұрын
By the time they restock we should have discounts on the games
@Videodude56
3 жыл бұрын
This new generation of consoles is so interesting. I really feel like neither had an clear advantage over the other and games are case by case. Love the work Digital Foundry has put into these new machines and how software runs on them. Keep up the great work and I am excited for future videos!
@tears2040
3 жыл бұрын
Xbox currently has the advantage as you can set 60/120Hz at different resolutions, PS5 needs to correct this immediately as it’s a handicap.
@christophergartner1056
3 жыл бұрын
@@tears2040 This isnt a hardware advantage though. Both consoles in general are nearly identical.
@ralphengland8559
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Both systems have me interested. I've avoided playstation recently due to the controller... But the ps5 controller looks comfortable.
@pedroj3432
3 жыл бұрын
@@tears2040 thats not really a hardware issue. It will without a doubt become available just like VRR and the 1440p output. Its something that can be patched into the console. So in reality, there was no clear winner here. Theyre both great and running games beautifully and we are at the beginning of the gen! Imagine what devs will accomplish as they fully utilise these consoles capabilities!
@christophergartner1056
3 жыл бұрын
@Jacob S Sony isn't lacking anything. Super Sampling will come to both. But in a worse way than DLSS as both consoles have a bad ML architecture compared to RTX cards. And VRR can come later on, but isn't something that's making Xbox more powerful at all. Both are nearly identical and we have the smallest power gap ever
@LSK2K
3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh, the DMC1 Divinity Statue theme in the beginning.
@LN.2233
3 жыл бұрын
great music
@LSK2K
3 жыл бұрын
@@LN.2233 all of them are. I can't tell which one is my favorite.
@WhirlingMusic
3 жыл бұрын
So iconic and nostalgic. Haunting and beautiful.
@maxsens_7374
3 жыл бұрын
Really both of them are good. Just the difference is ps5 is a router with eyes and xbox is a mini fridge with no deep freezer
@The_Primary_Axiom
3 жыл бұрын
When I was playing games like horizon zero dawn, last of us 2, ghost of tsushima, uncharted 4, god of war and other exclusives the last thing I cared for was 8 more or less frame rate lol. Give me a good game that’s all I want.
@distillion
3 жыл бұрын
Reading the comments on this video was hilarious. Versions of games are gonna be so close. with out this channel nooone would notice any differences lol. But Capcom has to cap 60. Game would run perfect on both consoles if this were the case.
@haruhidaso
3 жыл бұрын
@@madbutcher4907 Yea Xbox One X was significantly better than PS4 Pro and the general consumer didn’t give a shit about it. Do you really think people will care about 3 frame difference? Btw I am a Nintendo fanboy not gonna lie.
@aguacateenpolvo727
3 жыл бұрын
@@madbutcher4907 True
@arnabsaha8761
3 жыл бұрын
@@madbutcher4907 xbox one X was significantly faster than PS4 Pro,PS4 was also significantly faster than Xbox One.I am a PS Fanboy and if anyone said their Xbox One X stomps the PS4 Pro I would agree but XSX and PS5 are very similar in performance and in real world scenarios you wont see a difference
@musicvideoenhancer
3 жыл бұрын
@@arnabsaha8761 Devil May Cry 5 doesn't take advantage of the RDNA2 capabilities. The difference will show, but not now, in a port of the old gen.
@nsfshdfgj
3 жыл бұрын
@@musicvideoenhancer you do realize both consoles have RDNA 2?
@fassbenderc.c.6590
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like bad optimization, it occurs everytime on PC
@miyaguisan5371
3 жыл бұрын
Also it seems to hit harder when the alpha-based blood effect is on screen. So I'm guessing that's pretty much the reason (something to do with alpha textures)
@cha0siithe0ry19
3 жыл бұрын
why did the Xbox get lower frames in the performance mode than ps5? are either consoles actually going to hit stable 120 in any AAA multiplayer games? 😲
@VanTesla
3 жыл бұрын
@@cha0siithe0ry19 likely no given many games on PC with better general specs or equivalent can't run consistent 120FPS if it's somewhat new or depending on games engine. Take say current MMO still going. My friend can get decent performance on WOW, but say SWTOR runs like it did from first year. He has a 2080 Super and similar equivalent CPU to support from Intel. Can't get consistent 60FPS on SWTOR even in self contained areas... Mind that is more an issue of SWTOR engine is utter crap. I devolved into crapping on EA with SWTOR... There are issues on dev and game engines end besides issues on the systems. I'd be shocked outside very basic multiplayer type games most on either console will be majority 60FPS max. If adding any RT you can again kiss 120FPS out the window with current tech. Unless going with a very optimized and closed off Minecraft Mode like game...
@SpieroMusic
3 жыл бұрын
I guess that's the excuse now
@dreamerabe
3 жыл бұрын
@@Alexandra-ek7kh They'll likely bring those features later. Developers tend to leave PC versions for last because of needing to optimize for so many configurations.
@jakubircow6875
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a massive gap in performance up to 10 FPS is a lot that’s usually a difference in a whole graphics card
@justspeech1405
3 жыл бұрын
i love the background music, it's like death music
@sagarkardam9977
3 жыл бұрын
When you are so early you don't see any of the console fanboys comment😂
@alex_gaming9585
3 жыл бұрын
PS5 version is better than SX😐😐😏
@vincevirtua
3 жыл бұрын
Found the PC fanboy comment making light of console fanboy comments. ;)
@Ironmanx37
3 жыл бұрын
Yup, basically if you’re and Xbox guy then the Xbox version looks and play way better. But you’re a ps5 guy, the ps5 version looks and plays way. Console war in a nutshell.lmao
@hyperteknoman6602
3 жыл бұрын
Ps5 version is better.
@MegaFinalRound
3 жыл бұрын
Xbox is better. 60 locked mode FTW.
@CasualPlyr
3 жыл бұрын
Capcom needs to reconfigure their game
@AwesomeNuke
3 жыл бұрын
What makes you think the problem is with the game? ;)
@TruTrae
3 жыл бұрын
@@AwesomeNuke it’s capped at 120 frames when both can barely handle that framerate and that there is no option to cap the framerate to 60 fps in game.
@5555dhoni
3 жыл бұрын
@@AwesomeNuke its a console version, its expected for better optimization after all, both are next gen console
@jimbob4372
3 жыл бұрын
@Squall Leonhart 4k 100 fps average without RT disappointing?
@jetthejudge
3 жыл бұрын
@@jimbob4372 VERY
@revelator3665
3 жыл бұрын
waiting to the final release code... for the test. NOOB FOUNDRY
@Montpbm7
3 жыл бұрын
Right
@mrmonday677
3 жыл бұрын
The Fanboy flame wars has begun by digital foundry!!! : )
@ScrapKing73
3 жыл бұрын
Back in the '80s, when a single ready-traced frame would take hours (or even days) to render on a high-end PC or Commodore Amiga, this would have been beyond our ability to even imagine.
@tdome3000
3 жыл бұрын
It's still not pure raytracing. Only the reflections, sometimes shadows or lightning, are calculated via raytracing.
@gfamad
3 жыл бұрын
You're right ! It took me a night to render a sphere and a cube on a checkerded floor on Atari ST at 320x200 (Fun fact: I forgot the light so the result was totally black). Doing this with millions polygons fully textured with shaders at 4K is simply mind blowing. (Even more because now it's path tracing, with many rays for a single pixel...)
@xFlared
3 жыл бұрын
@@rockapartie We landed on the moon yet 50 years later can't get true ray tracing in games.
@rufus231
3 жыл бұрын
@@xFlared We didn't go to the moon.
@nelsoncabrera6464
3 жыл бұрын
Ehhh... wake me up when we get to realtime 4k60 Monte Carlo Path Tracing. ;)
@H.E.M.
3 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. Xbox is doing better in 4k mode but high frame rate mode is better on ps5. What’s going on?! 😂 Hopefully now we can put these consoles wars to rest. Both have their pros and cons. Also 100fps on average. Last gen the average was 30fps this is great.
@starmade9367
3 жыл бұрын
Nah this game has bad Optimization obviously lol let’s wait for a better comparison with an actual good optimized game
@jimduggan8382
3 жыл бұрын
It has only just begun !
@EeekiE
3 жыл бұрын
High resolution = more CUs. Higher frame rate = more efficient cache management. It’ll get more interesting when reconstruction and dynamic resolution come into play over old school fixed frame buffers.
@starmade9367
3 жыл бұрын
@@DeadPhoenix86DP yeah can’t wait see assassin‘s creed and watch dogs
@herpderp9394
3 жыл бұрын
@@DeadPhoenix86DP lol
@ryanredmond5559
2 жыл бұрын
Just proves both consoles are amazing its now just all about who prefurs wht to play on
@7thRonin
3 жыл бұрын
For me differences are to small to let us make the judgement. It also can be a thing with optimization for both of the platforms. We also must remember that developers are learning to use full potential of NextGen's and real differences may come later or maybe it will stay like this all the time. Summary: not a hardware but Platform services offered to users can be crucial.
@hansoloist9756
3 жыл бұрын
“It’s identical “. You’ll be hearing that A LOT for the next 7 years.
@petermulder7480
3 жыл бұрын
I dont know. Got the feeling the gab will grow bigger with the years to come. I'm not surprised if the ps5 pro will be a thing in 4 years.
@freedumbrings3935
3 жыл бұрын
@@petermulder7480 there will be a ps5 pro but not because of an enlarged "gap" but for money instead
@RichardWestmoreland
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, the hardware is so similar this gen that for the most part multiplatform games will be identical.
@petermulder7480
3 жыл бұрын
@@freedumbrings3935 Sony has said that the PS4pro was made to keep hardcore consumers on board and not leaving to pc. Ofcourse money plays a role as well. But I think Sony wants to keep there playerbase above all.
@cosmicgamingunlimited
3 жыл бұрын
@@petermulder7480 The xbox series x 360 will be in 5 years, they like to lag behind sony just so they can 1up them.
@TylerLore
3 жыл бұрын
I really wish they would just lock the framerate and scale the resolution.
@jimbob4372
3 жыл бұрын
You can - set your TV to 60Hz
@atlien1988
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but at least on Xbox you can set the refresh rate at the system level. Therefore you can set the game to 60Hz on Series X and simply game in 4K/60 as mentioned in the video. It's cool that these consoles can reach 120fps, but this game is poorly optimized and I wouldn't want to play a game that constantly dips from 100+ to low 60fps. That's worse than playing at a locked 30fps.
@TylerLore
3 жыл бұрын
@@LucasFerreira-gx9yh this guy get it. 👆🏼
@Juicersen
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah in system setting you can lock it to 60 on xbox. Pretty cool
@theanimerapper6351
3 жыл бұрын
You can just use vrr, problem solved
@blakeowen9648
3 жыл бұрын
EPIC! 120 frames (occasionally)!!!!!! Well above 60! 4K raytracing. This is gonna be an awesome console generation. Both consoles are great!
@aegiltech
3 жыл бұрын
(Pure Speculation). It sounds like the XSX version has had less time being developed than the PS5 version.
@andrenascimento9112
3 жыл бұрын
Offcourse... DMC5 definitive edition was made with ps5 in mind, they begin to work on xbox version later, so much that Ray tracing was not supposed To come on launch to series X will come later... But even then xbox its the best version 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@soumenkamila92
3 жыл бұрын
@@andrenascimento9112 Damage Control 😂
@andrenascimento9112
3 жыл бұрын
@@soumenkamila92 what??? How so??? The best version is the series X... At least you know what damage control really means??🤔🤔🤔🤔
@frenchyfrenchsilver1331
3 жыл бұрын
@@andrenascimento9112 STF, PS5 is far the best because the fps raise while the action gameplay, something really important in game, while XBox fall like a Filthy shit
@Umbra_Nazgul
3 жыл бұрын
you do realize this game is optimized for ps5 and not xbox series x yet right? And the xbox is beating it in every category besides in the framrate priority which is obviously saying something. How does the xsx have higher framrates in 4k mode then in high framrate mode? Just like 1 of the dudes in the vid said, has to be a api or optimization problem. Also, the ps5 doesn't support native 1440p, while the xsx does. So when the resoultion drops below 4k for the other performance modes, the xbox is still running at a higher resolution unoptimized while the ps5 is running in 1080p.
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